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Yuri!! On Ice

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Did Kubo fail us?
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It's over fa͏m
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>>153362661
Fuck Kubo. Sayo will save us.
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Yeah they all jobbed and Mexican guy used his fists to hurt people
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>>153362661
Fujoshit shit at its worst.
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>>153362661
Translators did.
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>>153362661
Can you believe I genuinely believed they were in love? Fuck Kubo and her shitty rings.
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>>153362661
Ever since I first watched YOI, she's been an unending chain of disappointment.

At least she admits herself that we shouldn't take her word as law, but the fact that she insists on the audience being able to interpret the story as anything they want proves she has no guts.
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God fucking damn it all this drama
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KUBOOOOOOO
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Are you still not got over that "clubmates" joke? You are worse than tumblr.
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>>153365885

What's funny is tumblr doesn't even care about it.
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>>153362661
That ass didn't fail me. God bless this Fairy (male).
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Why do we have Kubo now? Someone bring me up to speed
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>>153366197
I mean hate*

fuck I'm half asleep
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>>153366197
She's an unreliable narrator.
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these are your law enforcers for tonight
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>>153366236
I want Emil to arrest me!
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>>153366236
Are they gonna get naked or what?
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>>153366235
>unreliable narrator
>claims to have forgot.jpg production

Yuuri is Kubo's self-insert confirmed.
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>>153366236
Emil is such a cozy lion. I wanna touch his beard
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>>153366305
>you will never feel the texture of that cute beard
>you will never feel the warmth of his genuinely loving heart
>you will never feel the devilish sting of that big Czech cock as he splits you open on that massive thing
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>>153366177
This. Fairy's butt is so great that it gave me energy and hope to wait until April.
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>>153362738
Sayo has always been saving the series. Without her YOI would have been just another steaming pile of fuji-orientated shit.

Do yourself a favour and go watch Fujiko Mine and Michiko to Hatchin and it will become drastically apparent how objectively gifted she is.
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Y'all ridiculous. Get over it. You're either over-sensitive or retarded. Kubo did nothing wrong, it's you who must find the flaws in everything. Fucking stop to ruin your lives with your own hands and enjoy what we've got.
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>>153366417
>that gloriously perky butt is getting pounded by thick Kazakh dick every night

Their sex would be way too attractive.
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>>153366439
Anons hate to have fun, it's hard to change that.
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>>153366197
Kubo is part of the illuminati.
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>>153366425
I love Chink's action movie scenes.
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>>153366577
I want Leo and Guanghong to spoon on the couch while watching action movies together, eventually getting so worked up in teenage hormones that they forget the movies entirely and have a lot of desperate, horny sex.
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>>153362738
Sayo will deliver kissu S2. Screen cap this.
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>>153366652
But Leo is a good Christian boy.
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>>153366554
BaldFat frotting and they'd still be like Kubofailedus.jpg
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>>153366672
That's okay, if he marries Guanghong then Jesus won't be mad
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>>153366663
But why she didn't in S1
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>>153366792
Shh, no more questions anon.
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>>153362661
Fujobait.
stands next to faggots in basketball and swimming faggots.
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>>153366652
Sadly china lusts for Phichit, Leo will never get a cute boyfriend.
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>watching Gearous drunk and adorably cute on their stream singing

That was truly something
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>>153366236
They can give me a cavity search anytime
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>>153367265
>their
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>>153367355
>complaining about a gender neutral term
>in a thread about gay ice-skaters
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Is it real?
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>>153366197
Yeah i also want to know why we hate kubo now
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>>153366236
If they don't have some kind of bromance moment in S2 I'll riot. Emil tried so hard, he deserves a reward.
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>>153367414
>disney ever picking up nip shit
>disney ever picking up homo shit

what do you think, anon?
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>>153367414
anon pls, it's not even spelled right.
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>>153367414
Yes, Disney loves naked men and male bonding.
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>>153367560
Well he could always fuck the other Crispino, she's thirsty for the D
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>>153366236
Do you know the artist or the source anon? I've been looking everywhere and I'm still cant find it.
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>>153367820
>filename
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>>153367604
Yokai Watch is on Disney XD thought
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>>153367738
But only for asian D.
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>>153367847
Fuck, my bad. Thank you.
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>>153366397
You didn't have to remind me anon.
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>>153366698
> Baldfat blowjob

Why Kubo failed us?
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What would you do to fairy's thicc ass?
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>>153366425
Michiko to Hatchin was bland as fuck though, lol.
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>>153367414
>filmed from low quality camera in 2017
>nothing on Disney's website
>the video of it doesn't say "YURI ON ICE!! COMING APRIL TO DISNEY XD" but only "Disney XD"
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Tumblr reacted more mature lyrics than /a/ over an interview, Kek.
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>>153368894
Dunno, I thought it was good. I hope there'll be more Sayo style in S2
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>>153368853
>>153366698
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>>153368918
>more mature lyrics
what did anon mean by this
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>>153369123
welcometothemadness.mp3
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>>153369026
Honestly after all this drama, Kubo interview had kinda influenced how I saw Yoi at first, but when I rewatched it again, it still so fucking beautiful and Baldfat are still so fucking autistic I love it
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>>153369321
I did exactly the same thing. Rewatched EP10 and honestly none of this song-and-dance has ruined anything for me.

I feel sorry for the anons who feel their outlook on the series was honestly damaged by one interview.
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>>153369461
Rewatched the entire the series again, but the damage was done. For the first time, I did not enjoy the watch through as much as before.....
Looking at fanarts help tho
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>>153369780
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>>153367382
Stop.
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>>153369780
>>153369807

>fanarts
>.....

Goodbye and stay bye.
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>>153369780
>>153369807
Cute! I guess nips liked the soulmates comment
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The thing is that even if you want to no homo the whole episode thad bad or believe that Kubo is the one no homo-ing it, if that's the case then there's literally no purpose to have Victor refer to the rings as engagement rings. It wasn't for comedic effect, plus Phichit and JJ's reaction. If they weren't going for romantic engagement rings the part with Victor calling them that wouldn't have been there.
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>>153362661
>Fairy's ass in that image
NO SHE DID NOT
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>>153369780
>>153369807
I think I want to sudoku myself because I can't stand the fact how baldfat is just too precious.
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>>153370166
Yeah, it's a dumb comment but it doesn't change the fact that implied marriage is looming over Baldfat. Yuuri is shy/repressed but he had a choice to say no when Victor called it an engagement ring and he just spaghetti'd.
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>yfw S2 is announced for 2019

but it's 24 episodes
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>>153370202
Holy shit I didn't even notice. At least there's some good coming out of this. And I say that as a BaldFatfag.
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>>153370281
>and the animation is beautiful
I'd wait as long as we get 2-3 OVAs in between.
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>>153370332
>>153370281

I would wait for two years happily if it was well animated.

Realistically I'm expecting Winter 2018.
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>>153370166
Kubo is a troll and we know it. It's why she can get away with saying the rings both represent things clubmates would give one another AND that Victor and Yuri are soulmates.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
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>>153370384
>Victor and Yuri are soulmates
I want my romanchikku red string of destiny with Victor and Yuuri.
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>>153370409
Honestly that soulmate comment is more than enough to ignore forgot.jpg Kubo's blabbering mouth.
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>>153370536
That's why I don't get why /a/ is so mad. The context of her comments gives more than enough weight to the fact that she believes that they're a destined pair, but that she wants to leave the content of the show up to the viewers.
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>>153366417
Same for me. The only good thing to come out of the event.
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>>153370605
no one cares about this faggot, stop forcing this shitty, over-priced, generic art.
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>>153370605
I want to see Viktor in agape outfit
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>>153370666
Stop complaining about things you can get for free.
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>>153370763
>>153370605

>>>/cm/

take your tumblr image dumps elsewhere
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>>153370706
I prefer eros victor though
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>>153370576
I was bothered by her comments until she pulled forgot.jpg
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>>153370605
This explains the love they have for each other rather well
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>>153370845
>Eros Viktor
> Short hair

Why would yo do that?
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>>153370893
Still too hot to care
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Why? She only gave those engagement rings a third meaning to the already 'lucky charms' and 'marriage' ones.
And it's only natural that she privileges the 'sport partners' one given the fact that they were exchanged just before a competition.
I understand that Sayo loved the idea. It proves that Victor and Yuuri are soulmates on more than one level. Being lovers and comrades is even better than the original 'lucky charms + engagement" meanings.
I hope that S2 will develop these two aspects of their relationship.
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>Jizztophe's birthday is in 2 days

I hope Kubo remembers and draws something nice for him
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>>153370666
You again.
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>>153371176
Butthurt anons are butthurt 'cause the club mates thing is supposed to be from Yuuri's POV and now they think Yuuri has never really loved Victor kek.
They're too busy to hate Kubo to move on. The more we talk about this the more their view becomes negative.
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>The seiyuu commented how Georgi was the most popular character among male members of the staff, but Kubo said that actually later on he was substituted by Otabek, because all guys found Otabek cool.
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>>153371442
But isn't that just because Yuuri is an autist and we know he's unreliable as fuck with his feelings? I mean Victor stole his first kiss. The boy has no idea what he's doing/feeling, just that he wanted Victor to stay close to him.
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>>153371532
Male staff best taste
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So are Victor and Yuuri having sex or nah?
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>>153371712
not yet but I'm sure it's not for lack of trying on Victor's part.
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>>153371712
I always wondered if they did had angry sex in ep 12, but at this level of Piggy autism, Viktor will have to wait until at least S2
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>>153371712
Victor gave him a blowjob after 7 but before 8. After ep 9 they cuddled and made out.
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>>153371890
>>153371895

Forgot about ep 12, they spent that night and following day before the GPF with frustrated make out sessions and some sex.
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Post yfw bikefairy happens but baldfat doesn't.
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>>153371980
Bikefairy is more likely to happen in the background if only because they're not the main pairing. Baldfat have too many trials ahead of them for us to get canon confirmation.
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>>153371712
Fat and Bald after ep 12 embraced the nexto steeji of Eros together
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>>153372027
>Baldfat have too many trials ahead of them for us to get canon confirmation

Suffering
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>>153371895
Pretty sure they AT LEAST regularly kiss and make out after episode 7. Piggy still too autistic to have sex tho.
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>>153371545
That's why people hate thah comment though. It greatly undermines what is Yuuri's character developement: understanding love and gaining confidence. He's supposed to be insecure and lack confidence, not be obvlious. It was bait of them to jump through hoops for an engagement set up just for clubmate good lucks charms. It makes Yuuri come off as an absolute retard instead of shy insecure nip that's afraid of rejection but at least knows what he's doing at this point. But Kubo thinks he doesn't know what his feelings are for Victor after all this time still. It hurts the implications they're even a couple yet.
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>>153372117
I'm not convinced they are a couple. I'm sure Victor wants to be but is leaving Yuuri to set the pace, and Yuuri is still on the side of "I don't want Victor to leave me" but has no comprehension of why. I don't know how it's a bad thing, he's never dated, never been in a relationship, is canonically socially awkward and isn't good at making friends. Victor won't push him so s2 will be Yuuri realising how he actually feels about Victor (love) isn't just related to skating.
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>>153371712
They should, since both are members of a club who has sex with partners as good luck ritual to pursue Godly power. Hardcore cult it is. Everyone is welcome to their Toga party.
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>>153372117
It makes them seem like a really shitty couple too.
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>>153372253
They kind of are. We were treated all along with scenes like this and what we got by the end was poorly written forced suffering.
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>>153372323
Taking Kubo's interpretation as canon creates gaping inconsistencies in development in all areas. It makes it seem like Yuuri hit his peak in 7 but I guess by 10 he's back to square one in knowing his feelings.
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>short bonus manga will make fairyfags happy
>welcome to the madness likely an extra

Why is volume 6 so far away?
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>>153372652
Yuuri in 7 was about understanding Victor's inconsistencies as a coach and that Victor didn't get Yuuri, not about his feelings for Victor the person. It's natural development from then on. To be honest I don't find it a problem except that fuckery at the end of 11/12 when there is a real backflip and lack of resolution around the fight.
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>>153372213
Then they shouldn't do engagement bait if that wasnt the purpose of the scene. It makes the staff manipulative and also means they're shit at scene directing because their "real clubmates meaning" completely flew over the heads of the audience.
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>>153372836
>It makes the staff manipulative
Holy shit it's like /a/ doesn't know screenwriting 101.
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>>153372676
What date is it?
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>>153372891
May 26
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>>153372652
Kubo admitted she fotgot a good part of creating yoi, condraticts herself and commented that Viktor and Yurio hug can't be explained by logic. It's not just rings or Yuuri's development, many more things don't make sense if you listen only to Kubo. Dunno why is this way, I have my suspicions, but at this point I prefer to enjoy Yoi than overanalyze Kubo's way of thinking
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>>153370666
Shit taste, Satan.
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>>153372858
>Couple buys rings together
>gold bands
>receipt says in clear English "wedding rings"
>exchange rings in front of a church with a choir
>worn on right hand ring finger
>follows every detail of a proper Russian engagement
>later all the characters congratulate them on their marriage
>Victor corrects them and says they're engagement rings

Yeah they did a great job at conveying what the rings meant
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>>153373020
IMO it's because Kubo was way less involved in the direct script decisions than we thing since Sayo doesn't get involved with the fans, and there were also so many last minute changes that it's hard to keep track of them all.
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>>153373020
>Kubo admitted she fotgot a good part of creating yoi, condraticts herself and commented that Viktor and Yurio hug can't be explained by logic.
Honestly I have stopped listening to Kubo altogether because I have a feeling that she's less involved in the creation process than it appears to be from how she's active on the social networks. Plus, as you said, shitloads of her statements make no sense, so I don't really care anymore.
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Honestly this whole interview mess show how much paranoid /yoi/ are.
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>>153373052
They can't outright say they had no idea what they were doing. The fact that the event admitted that the last episode was rushed as fuck and had an absolute boatload of very very late changes says everything.
Also like >>153373158 and >>153373180 said, we keep treating Kubo like she's the only behind the scenes authority and it's pretty clear now she's not the one who called the big shots, so I doubt we should give a fuck about her opinion anymore besides if it has anything to do with future releases.
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>>153373210
4chan continues to show what a bunch of retarded overthinking autists we are. Once again nip fans are happy and even tumblr don't give a fuck about this pseudo drama /yoi/ has invented. Lern2notbbaited.
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>>153372836
There's no way directing and imagery during ring exchange was accidental. It was put there on purpose which later is confirmed by Viktor when he cals them engagement rings. It's not baiting even if the whole engagement is rather one-sided for now
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Why can't Sayo keep Kubo's mouth on a leash?
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>>153373052
The show was fine with the rings. The only drama I saw was that some anons were mad because they wanted a canon kiss or canon relationship confirmation in the last episode (which we got in a roundabout fashion). If you're mad because Kubo is a fucking retard who can't shut the fuck up and keeps misrepresenting/misremembering the show that's your own fault.
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>>153373052
When you put it like that it's really straightforward that in anime itself they are engagement rings, even if Kubo had different intent
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>>153372834
I'm not talking about developement in just understanding his feelings for Victor, but overall how Yuuri is able to understand himself and his feelings in general. During his panic attack he still yells "I know!" when Victor says of course he wouldn't want to quit coaching him. That's realistic anxiety.

If they wanted to save Yuuri from looking like an bumbling harem-tier MC, they could've done the ring exchange in a casual setting like the hallway of an arena. The fujo would've understood they're "club rings" better but still get excited over the implied engagement ring look. Trying to force that same meaning in the setting they went and excusing it as "Yuuri's autistic" hurts all the development we've seen from him.
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>>153373443
You're putting way too much focus on them being called club rings by one person after the show has aired. Everything during the show framed them as being a way for Yuuri to hold onto Victor aka engagement/promise rings. Take that as writ.
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>>153373251
>They can't outright say they had no idea what they were doing

Kubo did at event yesterday
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>>153373210
It's the same people that had an aneurysm at a single image of Sara touching Yuuri's shoulder. That interview is a mess in itself so I hope now these stop being taken so seriously. Watch the show instead.
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Kubo lost all credibility to me when she said that Viktor's reaction to Fairy breaking his record was obscured because she herself didn't know what he felt at the moment.
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>all this paranoia over interviews
>ignoring the actual show
>ignoring context
Stay fucking retarded, /a/utists
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>>153373546
I'm not going to take Kubo seriously but I'm arguing that believing her comment 100% about Yuuri being that austistic is an insult to his character.
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>>153373621
All that she proved in the last few weeks is that she should not be the YoI mouthpiece because her answers are all over the place and all she's doing is revealing how fucked the production was.
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>>153373210
That's a common symptom of Fujo-PTSD, please don't bully.
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>>153373582
They caught a bad case of the triggered.
The interview is not a mess, but sometimes I just wish both Kubo and fans stop talking too much and let the show speak for itself. There's no need to explain EACH SINGLE FUCKING FRAME. Unless you are a bunch of functional illiterates.
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>>153373655
Last thread was good when we finally gave Sayo her due credit
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Anyone that thought Piggy and Baldy were genuinely engaged is fucking retarded. Piggy was probably too retarded to know they were engagement rings when he bought them.
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>>153373726
Dare I ask how to find it in the archives
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Emil and Mickey are always together in group art. I'm so excited. I hope there's CatMouse in s2 and Mickey becomes dere by the power of BCC.
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>>153373746
not this shittu again.jpg

Piggy is an autistic nip but he's not THAT retarded. He wanted rings specifically and got the idea from JJ's engagement. Why do you think he was so quick to shut down Phichit but not Victor's comment?
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>>153373722
The number of foreign fans still looking for confirmation on things like the kiss, who bought the rings etc is telling enough as to why they obviously feel the need to extrapolate on the minutiae in interviews. I wish they'd leave well enough alone also, Kubo was fine when she was leaving it up to interpretation, as much as it annoyed people.
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>>153373746

That's why I hate that shit though. That would make Piggy a literal retard. Actually literal Downsies would have known what they were doing.

I'm just choosing to ignore Kubos verbal diarrhea rather than believe the writing is just that stupid
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>>153373443
If they were for clubmates, Viktor wouldn't call them engagement rings later on. There wouldn't be blatant marriage imagery, no wedding official art and so on. If someone thinks rings are only clubmate thing they should watch yoi again and in Kubo case shut up
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>>153373866
Just ignore obvious shit posters

>>153373812
>>>153338466
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>>153373746
There's been enough meta on episode 10 to prove that it was intended to be framed as a proposal. Whether Yuri meant it as such can be debated to the ends of time, but what's 100% true is that it had all the details of a proposal and we know for sure that Yuri did it to keep Victor.
I don't know why Kubo said what she did but I'm going to ignore it because she's not the director and actually doesn't have final say over shit, and I trust in Sayo's vision.
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>>153373944
Thank you for spoonfeeding me based anon.
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>>153374007
>doesn't have final say over shit, and I trust in Sayo's vision.

Judging by how she was surprised how certain scenes were different than how she wrote it, Sayo has control over what the final product is
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Does any of this engagement thing really matter? Everyone knows baldfat are balls deep in love with eachother at this point, what does it matter if they are never getting married?
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>>153374042
It's a comfy thread in dark times and I like Yamamoto getting appreciation
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>>153374079
Cause I don't want them stuck in coach-skater limbo because retardation
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>Piggy and Bald start living together in Mother Russia
>People who see their rings will automatically think they're engaged/married
>24-h together everyday
>Probably share same bed
>Bald's potential sad war flashbacks
>Piggy's turn to help Bald
>Grow closer
>Piggy wins gold
>Realize mutual feelings and get married
This is the natural progression of their relationship, if KuboYamamoto don't go for it then it's just bullshit.
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>>153374073
Exactly this. Also, YoI is 100% Sayo's baby, not Kubo's so I trust in the final product not all this post-show bullshit.
Except the soulmate comment because I dig it and ironically it's something I can get behind.
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>>153374073
Based Sayo. She's the true hero here.
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>>153374142
Coaches and students doesn't act like baldfat.
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>>153374079
This scene is the best.
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>>153374164
You forgot
>are so obnoxiously cute when training that people are simultaneously pleased to see Victor so happy and annoyed as fuck because of how irritating it is (Yurio)
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>>153373722
It's hard to do that when you have translators enforcing that nothing is not canon unless KuboSayo outright says it.
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>>153374164
>Piggy wins gold
>It was only a russian ruse, marriage is never mentioned again
>Victor's career is ended at a low point

I will cry.
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http://vote.animefestival.jp/
Vote.
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>>153374142
But they aren't. Good guy Otsuka already confirmed it, heck even Kubo confirmed it before she went retarded
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>>153374304
>nothing is not canon
Freudian slip but you know what I mean.
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>>153374247
>tfw the following morning you still have the aftertaste of victor's nut butter
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>>153374370
What was said? I've missed a few interviews, apparently
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>>153374424
Stay that way.
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>>153374308
>Piggy wins gold
>Viktor starts preparing the wedding, but Yuuri forgot.jpg about the arrangement
>endless stream of increasingly bizarre misunderstandings as Viktor discusses their wedding with Yuuri and Yuuri always manages to misinterpret it as something relating to skating without fail
>this is the plot of S3
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>>153374557
Kek, I love it.
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>>153374419

Do you think Piggy gives good BJs? He is a fat kid at heart after all.
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>>153374424
>Otsuka: I think that for Viktor and Yuuri, their coach-skater relationship is just the outer layer of their connection.
>Otsuka: Yuuri said he had no name to describe this feeling and I think it captures the nature of their relationship really well. Calling it love is a wonderful way of putting it, but I think they already went above even that. It is a relationship where they push each other in the best direction.

And my favorite, form perspective:
>Otsuka: And they kept surprising the audience each time, too. When you show scenes that leave no room for other interpretations there's a risk of it not sitting well with some people, but Kubo and Yamamoto always plunged forward with no hesitation.
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>>153374711
He's still learning but he's good.
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Are you guys finally realizing that Yamamoto is the only reason the show was any good?
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What character that anon still don't give a nickname?
Phichit? Chris? Emi?
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>>153375326
I will have to re-think it all I guess. Re-reading archives will aslo be a lot of fun.
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>>153375326
/a/ is 2000 and late. They seem to forget that because Kubo is the most outspoken that she was hired by Yamamoto because it's HER passion project. She was a casual until Sayo dragged her into being a skatefag
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>>153375557

Chris is Jizz
Emil is Cat (as in CatMouse)
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>>153375326
I realized that the moment JJ appeared on screen.
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>I'LL ALWAYS BE, BE THERE FOR YOU
>I PROMISE TO SAVE YOU
>I'LL SAVE YOU NOW
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>>153375978
To be fair he was bearable until the finale and even likeable when 11th episode aired.
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>>153376393
Is she attending any events?
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>>153376393
Why is Sayo such sex addict? is it because she's hot?
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>>153375326
I never understood why /a/ was so obsessed with Kubo. Yamamoto is the one behind everything and she has a ton of experience in the industry, Kubo is just some literally who with a twitter account.
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>>153376393
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>>153376528
Sayo and Kubo are both going to AnimeFest in August
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I'm gonna go with Kubo receiving death threats from either 2ch or hetfags then going full retard. Then claiming they didn't understand shit to protect themselves.

See Idolfags who are mostly hetfags going full retard whenever their idooru gets a lover.

The only one that matters is Sayo and that its best she stays out of media scene to protect herself.

If anything, Kubo isn't the end all be all the show. Sorry in advance authorfags, but if Kubo wants to bow out she can be replaced as long as we have Sayo at the helm.
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>>153373621
Kek

I hope she rewatches the show a few times before she starts writing S2.
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>>153376393
Sayo is so based she can wear sunglasses indoors and not look like a tool
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Some comments on the seiyuu talk.

>Yuuri is almost 10cm than Tosshi himself
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>>153376393
Based Sayo, hanarezu ni soba ni ite, plisu
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>>153376736
>Kubo is just some literally who with a twitter account
There's your answer. The loud posters come from other sites.
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>>153362661
Isn't Kubo the one who is a fujo but thinks real gay guys should not be holding hands in front of her? Wow, she's so revolutionary.
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>>153376835
It's not that serious. She just doesn't remember things, her contributions are overestimated, and things turn out different from what she first imagined.

She literally said pay no attention to her interviews and feels bad she gets more attention than she deserves. Now I don't know why she just doesn't stop talking, but I guess since it's popular she's being asked
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>>153376393
Oh /a/ you so fickle. Couple of days ago you all sucked Kubo dick
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>>153377508
No shit sherlock, they brought this to themselfs though by overreacting to fucking nothing.
Hope dramatic kids sit and thinking carefully, meanwhile let them pretend they did nothing.
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>>153371712
Victor eats Katsudon after every competition.
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>>153371532
witch and djbike best characters, it's known
More focus on georgi's creative abilities in s2 when
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>>153377575
>overreacting to fucking nothing.
wouldn't be /yoi/ if they didn't do that

Can't tell if some anons are actually serious about Kubo's drunken interview ruining everything or if they are just shit posters.
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>>153369026
By delivering mediocre writing. She wrote a 24 episodes story for a 12 episodes. But I guess all you care about is muh homolust.
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>>153377814
They're serious, you missed some funny overly dramatic walltexts.
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>>153377841
>She wrote a 24 episodes story for a 12 episodes
As if it wasn't obvious enough
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>Tfw this is actually the show's creation process
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Yamamoto is literally the only reason I picked this show up instead of binging it later. If you've ever seen a Yamamoto show before, you'll understand that everything good about YOI was her doing.

This is Sayo's project. What makes /a/ think Mappa would hand a project over to a literally who like Kubo?
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>>153378048
Kubo is a mangaka, Sayo always worked with anime, thing is that Sayo doesn't use social media so people latch on Kubo.
Kubo wrote the skeleton for the show, and worked on some things like episode 10 ending but she has 0 experience with animation because that is not her work.
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>>153378048
She needs to fire Kubo, hire a better writer and make S2 about Fairy. Let's pretend S1 never happened.
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>>153378318
>make S2 about Fairy.
No thanks
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>>153378318
Nobody cares about Fairy.
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>>153378318
>make S2 about Fairy
Another proof that rabid Kubo-haters are retards with shitty taste.
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>>153376911
It really does seem like it's been a while since she watched it, would explain why she's getting things mixed up.
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>>153378421
Kubo-lovers are the ones that not only are retarded but blind. The show writing was mediocre at best. Anyone who isn't blinded by muh homolust realized it.
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>>153378318
Fuck no. Kubo can write pretty well, she just doesn't believe in giving concrete answers (and apparently can't remember shit from her own show). Just ignore her interviews like nip fandom does.
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>>153378318
>make S2 about Fairy.
I can handle him in small doses, but having to deal with his bitching for too long would kill it for me.
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>>153378318
>Let's pretend S1 never happened
kek what a bunch of whimps
it really doesn't take much to destroy your fragile hearts
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These threads aren't comfy anymore.
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>>153378572
>implying we have hearts
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>>153378318

Baldfat and their antics made the show a smash hit. I like fairy but until he's more dere he'll just be a pain to watch.

A fairy narration episode would be alright though.
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>>153378580
These threads were never comfy.
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>>153378580
/a/ overreacted, now they won't get over it unless Kubo says something about romantic about Baldfat again. Somehow everything else before now has erased their memory.
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>>153378580
It's the work of the Illuminati.
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>>153378580

When are they ever?

The show is actually pretty comfy but these threads always end with people at each others throats.
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>>153378580
They were fine yesterday. Stop replying to shitty bait threads and let them die
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>>153378318
>hire a better writer and make S2 about Fairy

Kek
In season 2 Yurio has nowhere to go but down. He will learn to accept defeat or some shit like that.
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>A sports anime about a 15 year-old boy with personality issues
I can give it a pass because I like Fairy, but there's too much of that already. I'd love more Lilia and Yakov though.
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>>153378702
Victor's panties are unappealing
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>>153378682
>Kubo is an old woman
>Sayo is a cutie
Kubo proving again she's the inferior YOI creator.
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>>153378729
Lilia will steal Yuuri away from Victor in S2 and help him choreograph his programs
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>>153378729
>I'd love more Lilia and Yakov though.
I would unironically watch a series where Yakov would be the protagonist. Having to deal with his retarded skaters and trying to repair his relationship with Lilia would make for a fun show.
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These threads a week ago:
>YoI is amazing, BaldFat OTP, anime of the decade

These threads after Kubo said some stupid shit in some interview:
>YoI was a mistake, it's awful, let's pretend S1 never happened
You guys are fascinating
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>>153378725
C'mon, that's too cliche. At least give him a career-ending injury or something. Then he kills himself like the Death Parade girl in the last episode. I'd love a show with a bad end.
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>>153378580
People bring up this interview because there's nothing new to talk about. These threads were echo chambers before this interview and they still are.
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>>153378795
I still want Lilia to steal the Pig and transform the Bike.
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>>153378834
Yuri on Ice started with a bad ending though, it was not even a "common route", it's too light hearted to give anything closer to Death Parade though.
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>>153378795
>both Viktor and Fairy get jealous
Yes, go for it.
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>>153378823
>/yoi/ is one person

There's 66 people in this thread, some are bound to be retarded,
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>>153378834
Kubo said she doesn't like these kind of twists and would never let something like this happen.
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>>153378823
>anime of the decade
Not even AOTY. Some people are clinically retarded.
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>>153378756
Literally a godess,
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>>153378813
I want YakovLilia and BaldFat double date
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Perhaps it's just western retard mentality. As Asia ESL no one around me freak out and they can read moonruin. They even joking about how retard piggy is just like nip did.
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>>153378823
A few dramatic shitposters who probably hated things anyway is not everyone.
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>>153378988
Not bad
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>>153374557
Victor should just turn their wedding into an ice show, piggy might get it then.
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>>153378580
>cancerous generals after the show has ended
I wonder why.
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>>153378318
If anything, S2 should be about JJ.
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>>153379039
One nip thought it was cute they were club mates and soul mates at the same time. /a/ just hates being happy
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>>153378996
>the two couples meet accidentally
>Viktor drags them all to some restaurant
>slightly awkward at first, but Baldfat settle into their usual PDA routine fast
>Yakov and Lilia act disgusted, however it reminds them just how in love they used to be
>proceed to get together officially again
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>>153379125
Like that one doujinshi
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>>153379182
send this immediately to yamamoto, this is perfect.
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>>153379146
Go back to work, Kubo.
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>>153379166
Club mates in a club of two no less.
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>>153378318
They kept forgetting him in the event whenever they talked about the future, even JJ has a better chance.
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>>153379314
Nobody else would ever want to join their club
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>>153379461
That was pretty sad, though the show is like that too.
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>>153379461
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>>153379562
At least he won and BTFO Pig and Pigfags. It was glorious.
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>>153379487
Well I guess Makkachin could be considered a member, mean Yuuri didn't buy him a ring too.
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>>153379620
Losing is better than having all the character's screen time cut though.
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I wish /yoi/ would sing Theme of King JJ.
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>>153379691
Tell that to Pigfags. I still remember their non-stop bitching after the last episode.
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Does Yakov's ring just appear and disappear like magic?
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>>153378580
Previous thread was pretty comfy. Tomorrow new interview will be published and something new to talk about
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>>153379039
>nip fujo don't care about characterization or established relationships
>will settle for anything if there's at least homo feelings buried deep down

What else is new
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>>153379650
Pretty sure Makkachin gets annoyed with them too and would rather hang out at the onsen than be in their homo club.

>>153379737

I'm a Pigfag. don't remember that much bitching. Stop trying to start shit
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>>153379737
I don't mind that he lost, I had bigger issues with Viktor returning to skating.
t. Pigfag
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>>153379814
That sounds like Western fujos too.
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>>153379039
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone who is seriously expecting to get a proper baldfat wedding in S2? like officially registered marriage? I think nip fujos have never gone this far.
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>>153379814
It's funny you actually believe you have superior insight and taste. It's truly is.
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>>153378318
>make S2 about Fairy
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>>153379884
I'm expecting the same levels of bait/subtext S1 delivered. It's pretty obvious by now that they will never give a proper confirmation.
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>>153379884
They'll never have a normal wedding. Just can't see it. Something on the ice at best with some mutual understanding. They'll just never do an actual wedding since fujos like to imagine their own thing anyway.
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>>153379903
I hate some of you but damn the things that were created in these threads are gold.
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>>153379884
I had hope at one point but Kubo has herself to be too baity a writer and I don't think Sayo has enough courage to fix it with corporate looming over her now.
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>>153379944
>show ends with a flashforward to the distant future where Baldfat still live together and have adopted a kid
>/yoi/ celebrates
>Kubo gives another interview
>"Actually, more than symbolizing a need to become parents together, the child represents a joint project. Former students and their coaches share a unique bond and it's very common for them to continue cooperating in other aspects of life even after their professional relationship has ended."
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>>153378702
Why is Victor such a shameless slut?
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>>153380219
It's in his genes, he can't help it.
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>>153379766
He must be member of some sekret club. That ring is magical.
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>>153379886
Don't lump me in with them. I was drawn to BaldFat because it seemed like they were going for an established relationship in the second half of the show. Jokes on me Kubo.
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>>153379719
I'm down for singing. Can anyone edit?
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>>153380534
I sings-kun still with us?
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>>153380381
>Victor's parents invite them over for dinner to get to know Yuuri
>they greet him naked
>turns out his parents are nudists

They're disappointed in Victor because he loves clothes.
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>>153380443
Kubo is the final embodiment of forgot.jpg, you're weak if her words genuinely ruin shit for you. She even says to ignore her interviews if her words don't align with you personally see
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>>153380772
Just let Sayo take the wheel and we'll be fine.
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>>153380838
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>>153367414
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>>153380838
>>153380886
kek, poor Victor
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>>153380838
>>153380886
Well they did say Makkachin likes Yuri more than Victor currently
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>>153362661
Phichit's head it too big as if it's pasted on. Looks like shit.

As for Kubo, she was always pussyfooting around the homo in every interview, even in the ones where she heavily hints at the gay, or even in twitter she never ever said it point blank, she just makes extremely leading comments. Her inability to commit should not be a surprise.

As for the rings themselves, lots of us have said again and again that wasn't an
engagement, but it doesn't negate their inner feelings. Pig being a retard autist is nothing new but Victor is still largely happy with him.
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>>153381051
Yuuri takes him running, Victor probably uses a treadmill.
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>>153381141
Yeah Victor is fucking lazy, riding that bike ahead of Yuuri.
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>>153362661
What did I miss? Did she pull a Kurata?
People expecting anything other than bait after ep 12 ending are retarded. But as long as they don't introduce female love interests in S2, bait is ok.
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>>153381282
Yuzufag go and stay go
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>>153381282
Yuzufag please leave
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>>153380381
There he is. There he goes again.
Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.
I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your little Victorslut post up and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the picture, the Victor stretching in the onsen, isn't it? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan shitposting about a pure maiden. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic /yoi/ fag NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear.
She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "Victor is a slut. Victor is a slut. Victor is a slut."
You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now.
And that's all you'll ever be.
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>>153379737
I wanted him to lose and was afraid he was going to win just because he was the protagonist.
t. pigfag
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>>153381282
She just said something dumb about the rings after already saying it was proof of soulmates. But then, she doesn't oversee the full production like Sayo does, and she's mentioned forgetting shit about how it ended up, so I can't see why people can't ignore it.
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>>153381312
>>153381327
Don't worry 4CC this week. I will probably kill myself if Yuzu doesn't win because he will probably kill himself if he loses at the place where next year Olympics will be held.
But really people who expect Mitsurou 'hide your homos in 2chome' Kubo to commit fully are in for repeated disappointments.
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>>153379766
Yakov confirmed new mahou maker.
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>>153381462
Ok, that's what I imagined it was but it's their own fault for putting that much weight and hope into whatever shit she says. Just enjoy the anime and stop caring about useless interviews no one reads. Just like Samumenco has a homo end no matter what the retard in pic related thinks.
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>>153381282
Go to a fucking hospital already, you're mental.
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>>153379944
>>153379884
>>153379979
It kinda feels like the recent news kinda made people forget how much the show surprised people when it aired. Come on now, you are acting like Victor and Yuuri are Free-tier fanon stuff.

I do agree that sometimes it feels like there is a weird riff between what Kubo wrote and what the audience perceived. I wonder how much of it has to do with YoI rushed schedule and the fact they didn't expect it to explode like it did. There are no precedent of this kind of things in an anime original non BL.

Eva sorta is, but it's another kind of thing.
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>>153381397
I wouldn't call it best, but I like it way more than BikeFairy.
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>>153381282
>Bait
Do you even know what bait is?
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>>153381703
I'd go with Kubo not really having a lot to do with the final product as it was seen. I don't know how many times she can say she's not the only running things and don't pay attention to her before people believe her.
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>>153381672
Calm down faggot.
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>>153380838
What are they fighting about /a/?
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>>153381282
>>153381788
>Bait
Sometimes I wonder if you people watched Free by ancient.
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>>153381821
also

>Kubo has a messy way of speaking even in interviews
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>>153381837
I'm serious, you're mental. You might kill yourself because of Hanyu, or kill other people. Try to get better and stop with Tulpa shit.
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>>153381788
Do you? It is bait because it doesn't fully commit. Doesn't mean it's not enjoyable bait. Or let's call it cockteasing if you prefer. The result is the same: we will never get a confirmed romantic relationship between Yuuri and Victor let alone a wedding. Personally, as long as they don't bring in female love interest in the mix, I don't care.
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>>153381839
Yuuri doesn't understand why Victor wants to invite his family to the ceremony, it's just a celebration of their bond as a skater and coach.
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Yurio a shit. Phichit should replace him as the 3rd main character.
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>>153381839
>He bought me a wedding ring and is putting it on me outside a chapel this is the BEST NIGHT OF MY LIF-
>I-it's a good luck charm desu
>THIS FUCKING AUTISTIC FAGGOT

>
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>>153382015
Fuck off chink. Fairy a marvel of the universe.
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>>153382015
>no JJ
You blew it
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>>153381932
The fact that you think they could even get female love interests shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. That's not what bait is.

By your retarded definition 90% of anime couples are bait.

Bait is something like Free or Basugay, when they throw you some scenes that can be misinterpreter as gay or they keep things ambiguous.
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>>153381932
Let me guess, you also think Yamagi from IBO is not a faggot.
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>>153381839
Victor made a terrible size pun.
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>>153381926
My tulpa has left me so everything is fine on that front and why would I kill other people for Yuzu?
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>>153381839
Yuuri squeezed the toothpaste from the middle
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>>153381932
Do you think Yuuri and Victor could possibly be straight, then?
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>>153382057
Yakov and Lilia don't seem to be enjoying thoose pirozhkis much.
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>>153381788
>have characters in a romantic setting exchange rings
>one of the characters calls it an engagement ring. jokes about marriage
>We (kubo and sayo) were like, “yeah, a cornered athlete would do something like that!” More than implicating something like a wedding, it’s similar to members of the same circle deciding to have a matching item.
it's bait
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>It’s pretty weird, this exchange–Yuuri asking Victor to give him some words for good luck, Victor saying he’ll do so…and then nothing really coming.

It’s because that’s not what either of them said, lmao.

In the first cap, Yuuri is explaining what the ring is for, and after mentioning that it’s gratitude for all Victor has done for him thus far, he adds that it’s also 「おまじない用」 (omajinai you), meaning “for good luck”. He doesn’t ask Victor to say anything; he is explaining that the ring is meant to be a good-luck charm.

Victor thinks this is fine and decides to go along with it (rather than press Yuuri for some deeper meaning), saying the ring that he’s just placed on Yuuri’s finger will be 「何も考えなくていいおまじない」 (nanimo kangaenakute ii omajinai), or “a good-luck charm so you don’t have to think about anything”.

When Yuuri thinks on the ice, he trips up and loses himself, so the ring is meant to be something he can cling to, an anchor, a reassurance of the bond he has with Victor so he doesn’t have to waste time thinking out there during his routines. He can simply focus on the skating while secure in the knowledge (via the ring) that he is bound to Victor.
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>>153382145
You shouldn't kill yourself for Yuzu either. Please, take care of yourself and see doctors if needed.
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>>153382168
No, I mean Yuuri could be bi. Victor is stereotypically homo but the thing that is annoying to some extent is that they refuse to make it 100% clear like they have no issue doing for het pairing like JJ and his fiancee but I've made peace with this and can still enjoy what we got.
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>>153382190
We are not talking about that scene. We are talking about the whole series.

If you are calling the series bait, you are essentially saying Victor and Yuuri are not gay, they could get girlfriends in S2 and every gay things is from the fanon.
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>>153382042
>>153382116
I loved that thread. And I'm surprised the Kubo interview shocked anyone after that happened, the storyboard was pretty clear about it too desu.

Would be nice if they went all the way next season, though.
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>>153382278
>for het pairing like JJ and his fiancee
That character with 3 minutes of screentime? Yeah, they had to tell you, otherwise you wouldn't know.
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>>153382278
>but the thing that is annoying to some extent is that they refuse to make it 100%
Even if they kissed on screen it wouldn't matter to some people and they still would call it bait.
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>>153381601
Yakov will get frustrated and sit Yuuri and Victor down and have a long talk with them.
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>>153382288
No your definition is retarded. Free is bait and no one expects the Free characters to get a girlfriend either. There are levels of teasing and YOI went further than Free that's for sure but at the end of the day they are both fujobait though at least YOI has good storytelling and stays away from shitty drama.
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>>153381397
>Bikeleaf is best ship
It wouldn't last long. Bike would be trying to spin and JJ would try to get him to play "Theme of JJ" and keep hounding him that every song he's playing is shit. Where's the Celine Dion or Bryan Adams?
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>>153382278
Because JJ and his girlfriend have nothing going for them but them dating, and have no development or screen time while Baldfat actually has multiple layers to their relationship.They aren't just one thing.

It's pretty telling people are more accepting of JJ and his finacee than Baldfat really. It's the same shit as some anons accept Yuuri having feelings for Yuuko, but won't accept him having feelings for Victor
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>>153382070
>Bait is something like Free or Basugay, when they throw you some scenes that can be misinterpreter as gay or they keep things ambiguous.
This is what YOI does, though. It's retarded to say they're not gay, but you clearly haven't seen the hoops Nips can jump through to pretend characters aren't gay. As long as they never explicit mention a relationship, there's plausible deniability.
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>>153382422
>No your definition is retarded.
What's your definition of bait then? Anything that is not 100% confirmed homo even if the narrative all but points at one thing?
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>>153382474
This. In Moonland, you can buttfuck someone and still say you aren't gay and as long as you say you aren't, people will believe you or at the very least accept it.
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>>153382474
It's because it's gay that it's bait. Nobody would call it bait if they were straight. And no, most nips don't jump through hoops to say they aren't gay. That's western fans.
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>>153382216
>おまじない用
Uh. He says おまじないを, though? Your interpretation is slightly off. Yuuri isn't saying the ring is an おまじない, he's asking Victor to put an おまじない on his ring. The おまじない are the words that bless the ring.
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>>153382506
My definition of non bait is a kiss that isn't hidden so that half of the fandom will wonder if it even happened, engagement rings that aren't said to be good luck rings so that half of the fandom is left to wonder if it means anything and a confession that doesn't pussyfoot between romantic and platonic love.
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>>153382544
>Nobody would call it bait if they were straight.
Shipteasing with het pairings is absolutely a thing. People generally get less outraged about it, though, because there are tons of actual het ships but almost no gay ones.

>And no, most nips don't jump through hoops to say they aren't gay. That's western fans.
Don't pull shit out of your ass if you've never been a part of Nip fandom.
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>>153382422
Another difference is that Free is all over the place with teasing (which is why there is shipwars, they tease the guys with multiple characters), but YoI points to Baldfat as endgame so that the audience roots for them to get together, like any romance story does.
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>>153382611
It's all by a translator on tumblr, I fucked up the qouteing.
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>>153382474
>This is what YOI does, though.
No, it doesn't. YoI has a narrative focus on men Eros and Yuuri and Victor feelings for each other. It's a 12 episodes romances that cannot be read as simple friendship.

Free is a friendship show in which the characters act like little girls.

> but you clearly haven't seen the hoops Nips can jump through to pretend characters aren't gay
Nope, I'm someone who argued about stuff like No.6 and Eva in the past. I know how retards keep calling everything "bait" because they can't accept what is show on screen. In a couple of years everyone will have accepted they are fags and we'll move on calling the next homo anime bait while praising YoI.

Pic related.
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>>153382289
It's kind of like Victor went "fuck what this pig thinks, we're engaged", then Yuuri just goes along with Victor by not refuting him.
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>>153382637
>hat half of the fandom will wonder if it even happened
Except this isn't fucking true, overwhelming majority always thought it was a kiss. Others are being dramatic or were always hetfags who would deny it.
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>>153382693
My friend, if you're arguing that "well it's just not plausible that this would be simple friendship," I hope you're ready to agree that Nanoha, Madoka, and Symphogear are all great gay shows.
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>>153380838
Oh, this artist. I love her role reversal au.
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>>153382775
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>>153382637
It's sad, just by the show alonw I'd argue that it can't be anything BUT a kiss, then you have Kubo and the seiyuu calling it a hug/kiss and Kubo, despite implying pretty blatantly that it's a kiss, still repeating multiple times that it's up to interpretation.
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>>153382288
Why not? It wouldn't be the first time a story goes full retard. Remember Moyashimon?
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>>153382693
>a couple of years everyone will have accepted they are fags and we'll move on calling the next homo anime bait while praising YoI.
I can see this happening
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>>153382866
Your problem is listening to other people
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>>153382775
Same. It's pretty cute and the comics are some fun stuff.
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>>153382705
No, he realizes Piggy's intention and goes along with it. Let it go, anon, they still obviously want to get tied for life, they just haven't got their shit together yet.
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>>153382761
>My friend, if you're arguing that "well it's just not plausible that this would be simple friendship," I hope you're ready to agree that Nanoha, Madoka, and Symphogear are all great gay shows.

No, I'm arguing that the narrative is romantic and can't be friendships, what other shows do don't matter.
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>>153382866
Just pay attention to the fucking show. It's cowardly but they likely did that to avoid confrontation, they know what it is.
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>>153383046
That kind of makes Victor cruel then to twist Yuuri's intention into something else in front of a crowd, doesn't it?
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>>153382761
Madoka will accept Homu-chan's AI one day. S-surely it will happen, I believe.
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>>153382669
Oh, okay. Here's what I think in that case. 何も考えなくていいおまじない ("a good-luck charm so you don’t have to think about anything") -> 何も考えなくていい ("so you don’t have to think about anything") these are the words of good luck that Yuuri asks for. The phrasing is confusing but when you're talking about an おまじない, the blessing normally comes before the word itself. Victor is putting the ring while saying those words, so now the ring has been おまじない'd with them. If that makes any sense.
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>>153383122
Have you not watched enough anime to know what I'm talking about or something? Many, many anime have same sex relationships that dominate the narrative and are obviously too intense and romance-coded to be platonic, yet until the characters are declared to be explicitly dating, that completely counts as "up to your interpretation" limbo in Japan.

You would think holding someone's face and saying "This is a confession of love" couldn't be platonic either, but hey guess what, Hibike sure did that.
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>>153382958
You know it's happening, I still remember arguing with people Shinji and Kaworu are gay and Nezumi and Shion did not "Kiss like Europeans."

I find weird that people deny YoI because it's more in your face than these shows for a lot of things, but I learned that for a lot of people homo interactions are basically meaningless.
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>>153382761
It literally cannot be just friendship. They're framed alongside two lovers in the metanarrative and the banquet twist that comes and recontextualizes everything strengthens that. I remember how much hetfags fucked off after the airport scene too because of how obvious that was. They're romantic, through and through.
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>>153383140
Victor can be Hitler too. Victor thinks it's a good plan to motivate Yuuri probably. Though I tend to agree with what the other anon said and he fianceezoned himself since he knows Yuuri isn't against it.
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I feel right if it isn't has new major thing here soon. /yoi/ will fall in to madness of circle jerk over the same thing.
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>>153383241
You're seriously stretching this shit.
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>>153383310
It would help if people stopped making threads. Cancerous generals are good for no one.
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>>153383339
I don't follow.
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>>153383277
You can't just continue harping on "it's literally impossible!" and completely ignore all the examples I just gave.

This kind of shit is extremely common in anime. It just usually happens with f/f instead of m/m.
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>>153383256
>Have you not watched enough anime to know what I'm talking about or something
No, it's because I watched enough shows to know what I'm talking about.

Stuff like Seraph, Free and even going back to shows like Oofuri are focused on friendships that can be read as something more, but it's all from the audience side.

YoI cannot be read as friendship unless you engage in mental gymnastics.

>You would think holding someone's face and saying "This is a confession of love" couldn't be platonic either, but hey guess what, Hibike sure did that.

Hibiki also had episodes about Reina wanting to fuck her professor and Kumiko supporting her.
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>>153383139
I'm not wavering at all in my interpretation, if that's what you think. It's just a shame they have no balls. Canonically, other interpretations are also correct and this is the last word on it.
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>>153383411
Madoka wasn't even Yuribait until the movie. Both Madoka and Homura call each other their best friend.
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>>153383256
>the characters are declared to be explicitly dating, that completely counts as "up to your interpretation" limbo in Japan.
Because nips are afraid of confrontation and value "harmony/politeness" to the point that they want everyone's views to feel included no matter how retarded it is.
The viewers know, though.

And forgetting Kubo, Otsuka already said there's actually not much about it can be left up to interpretation, referencing ep 10. That's kind of bold to say but it's obvious what he meant.

>>153383268
YoI IS pretty in your face. People think the hetfags for this show are bad, and while they are, fucking please, there's ultimately even less denial over Baldfat than there were for some others.
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>>153383486
>other interpretations are also correct and this is the last word on it.
Victor performed a face punch on Yuuri.
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>>153383140
Victor always had a sharp mouth.
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>>153383470
You just named a bunch of fujobait, so no, clearly you don't know what I'm talking about. Like I said, it's more common with f/f.

>Hibiki also had episodes about Reina wanting to fuck her professor and Kumiko supporting her.
Yes? That's precisely why it's bait. But explaining away the "confession of love" still takes retarded mental gymnastics.
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>>153383486
>Canonically, other interpretations are also correct
Not if Otsuka is to be believed, and it honestly looks like he understood and remembered more of the show than Kubo.
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I don't mind believing the rings are just good luck charms for now, most people sadly pulled a Phichit and started planning the wedding when baldfat are clearly not ready for that yet. A Love and Life episode in s2 should clear things up.
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>>153383644
He seemed to understand Yuuri and Victor's relationship quite well too, he's better at articulating his thoughts than Kubo I think.
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>>153383644
Otsuka also did not specify what exactly he was talking about, but I give him more balls than the others.
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>>153383628
>Yes? That's precisely why it's bait. But explaining away the "confession of love" still takes retarded mental gymnastics.
The point is that you cannot compare it to YoI.

These scenes exist in a bubble to give gullible Yurifags something to fap so that they'll buy their DVD, YoI narrative is not just episode 7 and 10.
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>>153383779
Poor Phichit, he just wants to be Yuuri's best man.
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I thought we left the whole bait bullshit behind at this point, but nope.

The episode 10 scene was certainly "bait"(But frantically you should worry about the fact it's also shit writing for Yuuri), but it takes balls to say the whole show is "bait".

But whatever as >>153382693 said, in a couple of years this won't even be a thing anymore.
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>>153383310
Last thread was very comfy, this one attracts cancer because of OP post
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I hope YoI's success will convince Anno to make Kaworu and Shinji have a happy gay ending together in final
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>>153383824
Butting in, not like I expect anything to come out of /u/bait shows, but no it's not just in a bubble. Even just last season there was Izetta.
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>>153383794
He is, and he has been like this. He said that Victor's "heart had been completely taken away by Yuuri" in an old interview about the Onsen on Ice scene.

>>153383797
It's just too obvious. He was talking about scenes "that may turn off some people", but that SayoKubo just went full steam ahead anyway. The other time he used those words, he was talking about the scene in ep3 where Victor stroked Yuuri's lip and told him to show him his eros.
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>>153383779
You can be engaged for years you know.

Anyway I'll just stop investing in BaldFat. SayoKubo made them exciting because they kept flinging in relationship milestones along with what felt like matching character growth. I gave the limpness of 12 some benefit because sequal bait but if they're just going to drag BaldFat through will-they-won't-they hell that destroys why I liked them in the first place.
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>>153384017
>I hope YoI's success will convince Anno to make Kaworu and Shinji have a happy gay ending together in final
3.0 is even less forward than the original Eva and Kaworu needs to die for hetfags peace of mind.
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>>153384017
Iku-chan will never accept and return Anno's feelings so Anno will never be able to write a happy ending for Kawoshin.
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>>153383952
Learn how to make stealth threads,faggots.
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>>153384084
I meant the scenes in Hibike. They exist in a bubble in the show context.
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>>153383952
Yeah, people need to stop fucking making obvious threads. Welcomes shitposters who already lurk here to find out how to better bait and shitpost.
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>>153384106
Point is, though he's bolder and gets credit for that he's still not direct either.
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>>153384111
>Anyway I'll just stop investing in BaldFat. SayoKubo made them exciting because they kept flinging in relationship milestones along with what felt like matching character growth. I gave the limpness of 12 some benefit because sequal bait but if they're just going to drag BaldFat through will-they-won't-they hell that destroys why I liked them in the first place.
This is how I feel.

It also feels like half of YoI development was random or we mistook tons of stuff.
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>>153384184
>people need to stop fucking making threads
Fixed that for you.
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>>153383797
For all we know, maybe his "can't be interpreted any other way" line was meant to refer to how the audience is supposed to have taken Yuuri's good luck charms dialogue at face value
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>Yfw rewatching yoi completely naked
God damn yoi made me such a slut holy shit.
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>>153384111
I feel like I should have stopped paying attention to the after-show stuff, but the latest interviews really made me think they were going to be all out, instead it looks like Kubo had no idea what the fuck she was doing.
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>>153384263
>It also feels like half of YoI development was random or we mistook tons of stuff.
We haven't even heard from Sayo who is credited with all the most famous homo scenes. Kubo is the one mistaking shit here.
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>>153384150
Not Hibike but there are shows that are really fucking lesbo in the entire narrative, but they're still bait like >>153383628 said.
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>>153384312
given what else he said that's obviously false. no, they actually think they are being bold which they are for something that's not labeled as BL
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Are people seriously ignoring what happened in Yoi even without rings? Jfc watch it again if you have the same memories issues as Kubo. Baldfat are canon, maybe not engaged, but there's far more than ring exchange or even kiss scenes, yet most only focuses on it
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>>153384312
He may not have specified but that seems hard to believe in the context of all else he said. He was talking about SayoKubo making incredibly bold moves.
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>>153384371
>Kubo had no idea what the fuck she was doing.
She doesn't. She's also not the authority on everything in the show. Why the fuck is anyone hanging on her every word. She's never fully committed to anything and the more time passes since the show aired, and the more shit she forgets the worse it's going to get. Stop paying attention.
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>>153384437
Yes, they are. It's seriously irritating.
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>>153384437
/yoi/ is fucking dramatic as usual. Any slight thing that happens triggers them like this and they begin to overrationalize. I don't know why they are taking this so seriously when it probably wasn't meant to.
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>>153384395
So Kubo is genuinely homophobic and hasn't changed since her 'eww homo kiss' tweet a few years back and Sayo is our homo goddess?
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>>153384400
Have you ever consider that they are actually just lesbo then?
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>tfw right all along and not happy but am least not disappointed
Baldfat are still cute autistic Hitlers. More gay will come after this and they will get bolder.
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>>153384462
>She's also not the authority on everything in the show.
She's always constantly pointed this out herself too since the beginning, but people ignored it. If they had ignored it sooner I doubt this would have been a big as a deal.
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>>153384139
That's one nice bag. Powerlevel merch is a huge untapped money source.
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>>153384570
That was a fake tweet, don't be retarded anyway. I feel like pic related is more true.
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>>153384570
Kubo is awkward, forgetful, doesn't know about romance and speaks poorly at times and too often. And gets too much credit. She's also still said a lot of great stuff about Baldfat even just recently.
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>>153384570
I doubt it considering her tweet about YoI being a no homophobia world and wanting to protect it for that, appreciating Weir loving the show and basing Victor on JCM, but yeah, Sayo did a lot of the homo scenes.
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>>153384672
That tweet wasn't fake though or she could have very easily sued the Nips that posted it and went after her but she never did.
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I really hate the word "bait", it basically used to prove that nothing is gay unless it's stated in plain text.

People have easier time accepting incest and bestiality than they have that some characters may be gay, it's fucking bizarre

>>153382761
Maybe Nahona and Izetta are actually meant to be gays? Have you consider that?
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How do we get this thread to be comfy?
Talk about...
-dick size?
-who has the thickest ass?
-why JJ is terrible?
-latest doujin/fanfic recommendations?
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>>153382761
The fact that you even doubt shit like Nanoha says enough
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>>153384787
>That tweet wasn't fake though or she could have very easily sued the Nips that posted it and went after her but she never did.
Yes, she's going to sue 2chan for making a fake tweet about her. Are you new to the Internet?

Even if she did it was 7 years ago and she clearly doesn't think it anymore, so it's pointless.
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>>153384607
But they aren't, when they are they are no longer bait and I rejoice. YKA was not bait even though it was trippy
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>>153384570
No Kubo just forgot.jpg
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ITT: /yoi/ are more triggered than tumblr over a mistranslation issue
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>>153384787
>>153384787
>suing over a fake tweet
That's some autism or serious attention whoring. The best way to let things die is by not drawing more attention to it, especially when it was said to be so many fucking years ago. I don't even believe the same shit I did seven years ago.
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>>153384948
Its hilarious, but expected from general
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>>153384855
It's too far gone, anon. It was never going to be comfy when it started out with obvious bait OP
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>>153384855
Just wait for it to end and then make a stealthier one.
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>>153384819
There are plenty of straight romances that are never spelled out either. It's just a common nip thing. For some mangaka it's even their thing. Compare YoI to clamp for example where this is the case for both straight and gay couples. The same with obscured kisses. Forceful kisses are often shown because we need to be shown someone is being attacked while romantic kisses are obscured because they are "private". There is also a difference between "saving it for season two" and "not really gay" and I consider in this case the former much more likely.
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>>153384855
> comfy thread
> dick size

Retards thought Leaf has bigger dick than witch I was triggered
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>>153384948
/yoi/ being super shit these last two days made me catch up watching 30 episodes of DBS.

Keep up the good work.
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I was OK even with the clusterfuck of 12 because they could make up for some of the dumb writing choices. Now I seriously doubt that.

>cannot be explained by logic
.
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>>153374319
It's baffling how much the nips love Joker Game. Is it a cultural thing that we just can't appreciate over here? My entire takeaway was that it was completely mediocre.
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>>153385371
Its not, all the haters on 2ch decided to spam the votes to try and de-throne YoI.
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>>153385371
I watched the entire thing but I can only remember 3-4 episodes.
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>>153385371
I'm more surprised Free! is in third place. I thought no one gave a shit anymore.
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>>153385423
Is that really it though? I was listening to a podcast discussing anime where they implied it was well liked over there but your suggestion sounds more plausible. Just why not do it with a better show?
>>153385434
Exactly, I can remember less than a half dozen moments from the entire thing. It was almost completely forgettable, the best thing it has going for it was that it wasn't offensive.
>>153385530
I suppose the fujos come out in force for it. Thay might actually explain part of Joker Game's success as well.
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>>153385111
I mean, at this point they cannot not be gay, it's not like you can replace piece of characterization as much you want.

>>153384938
>But they aren't
How do you know?
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You know, the more I think about YoI, the more I realize westerners and nips really need to learn from each other's storytelling. Westerners are used to gay characters just saying they're gay or saying it directly outside the show, but often it literally feels like nothing more than fishing for "progressive" brownie points than doing anything actually ambitious because it's not seen IN the source (i.e. "Dumbledore gay"), or the romance was just not built up properly enough (Korrasami), it's just forced in.

Nips play it subtle writing any kind of relationships but especially gay ones, and this pays off in the regard that there is way more tension, build, and chemistry, but then it feels weird because they can't be explicit about it.

Baldfat is so well loved in part because while it definitely leaned to the nip side, it overall felt the closest to a happy medium. There isn't enough homo pairings like it in general. I really hope Sayo steps up for s2, she's still the one who puts together what becomes the end product and I hate people putting so much stock into every single word Kubo says when she herself said the anime became different from her original writing.
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>>153384938
>But they aren't
You can't just say that definitively though, you must have evidence.
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>>153385122
I could see JJ having a slightly larger than average dick but would just "pump and dump". Witch on the other hand might be smaller but he would have the bed decked out in rose petals, read some embarrassing schlocky love poetry and then go down for hours.

Instead of dick size, who'd be the best fuck?
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>>153385891
Nips have just resigned themselves to getting blueballed when it comes to gay representation, and are used to diving for whatever scraps creators decide to throw them. Westerns (rightly) don't tolerate that shit.

There's something to be said for cultural difference and slow-burn, but "lol they're comrades" is fucking dumb no matter which way you cut it.
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>>153386090
>bed decked out in rose petals
I laughed because the Witch would actually do this. No other yoi is man enought to do this.
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With Kubo thing. It make me curious about the authority in anime production.
Is the director or the screenwriter like the showrunner ?
Or it belong to who come up with the project?
I confuse because it isn't has a clear line for me.
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>>153386199
>Westerns (rightly) don't tolerate that shit.
Except I can't bring myself to care enough or relate to it when they just say it but don't know how to show any shit of it. Show not tell is like the first rule of writing.

>but "lol they're comrades" is fucking dumb no matter which way you cut it.
It is but it's not like she's said that's the only thing their relationship was. There's also her prior comments about them being soulmates and Otsuka saying their relationship went beyond coach/skater. She's just contradicting herself, everyone knows she's being retarded.
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>>153386199
>>153385891
I agree. I liked yoi cause it didn't feel like anime. The romance felt genuine too and not just because of the gay. I wouldn't be questioning so much about BaldFat now if 12 didn't go the ambiguous route all of a sudden. The interviews from Kubo just make it worse. It's like she's dragging it down into nip blueball hell.
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>>153386090
>who'd be the best fuck?

Pics related.
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>>153386090
>best fuck

Pig obviously. Why do you think Victor is suffering so much for his dick.
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>>153385891
I love the fact that Yuuri and Victor were revealed to be gay without any explicit "I'm gay"/"I like men" that always happens in Western media.
Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy it when characters admit it, but it's really nice to see how it's revealed through genuine love between 2 characters of the same sex that you can see evolving throughout the show. Because that's what happens in real life. It's not like
>Person A: I'm gay
>Person B: I'm gay too. Since we both like dudes let's fall in love with each other, just because

On another hand we all know nips can't into same sex relationships which is frustrating seeing all this vague shit. I can accept that the rings were good luck charms but it just felt like pure fanservice.
>paying tons of money to buy wedding rings and putting them on in a church...but they're lucky charms
And now Kubo saying that the rings are like club member charms...It's just too weird and feels out of place. Before it genuinely felt like Kubo was like "here's a gay relationship" to "here's 2 guys who like each other, they have tons of chemistry, but will they actually ever get together? Stay tuned".
Let's not forget that Kubo is a fujo. I'm prepared for her not to confirm anything in the end.
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>>153386090
JJ obviously
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>>153385891

That's a good way to think about it, honestly. There's real character development and we can see and believe that they have a thing for each other. But Westerners are so used to having solid confirmation in some way that NOT having it feels like blueballing. We deride authors who confirm things after the fact and with no indications whatsoever in story itself, but we still expect a definite answer when the question is asked. Japanese are way more circumspect in just about everything they say and do. It's something Western fans need to understand before they start hounding creators for answers.

Also I think Kubo just inexperienced. Probably a case of someone not used to fame finding out that people and will nit-pick every little thing you say. She might get better about preparing responses rather than saying stuff off the top of her head. Treat her comments as fun insights or asides rather than the Word of God.
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>>153386580
This is just like the KyoAni people saying that Kumiko's relation to Reina/Asuka wasn't gay but instead 'adolescence'. Both of these shows clearly depict romantic love but just don't have the balls to admit it.
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>>153386580
>Let's not forget that Kubo is a fujo.
How true is this though, liking an actual homo pairing is not evidence of a fujo. She used to write het stuff, but then got tired of that because it's so expected.
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>>153386363

Writer prepares the scenario and the script and the story. Very important.

Director is the leader, so to speak. They communicate their creative vision for the project to everyone else to make a coherent and enjoyable show. They are the idea person, the project leader, and the person in charge of setting the mood and instructing animators on what scenes should look like. Most important.

So Kubo is a vital part of YoI, but Sayo is the heart of it. Both of them worked with MAPPA to make the show. But it never would have happened or been as great as it was without Sayo's passion and skill.
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>>153386773
Didn't Kubo tweet some time ago that she's tired of writing/reading straight romance and that she would rather write same sex stories? I don't know it just sounds like the kind of stuff fujos do. Like "Oh I'm tired of seeing the girls being stereotypically taken advantage of in romance manga, let me write a romance story between two hot guys" frustration.
Which isn't a problem, just that they can never write a story that isn't filled with uke/seme tropes.
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>>153385891
I think nips are getting warmed up to the idea of a more western style "in your face" storytelling. As Kubo said, even Japanese fans wanted confirmation and she was surprised because normally they don't. Nip fandom know YoI is special and now that they have it they want much more.

I remember before episode 7 aired, nip twitter were translating posts from tumblr about what queerbaiting was, and there was a whole bunch of different viral tweets explaining what it was for western fandom and how queerbaiting can be damaging to LGBT individuals. Before YoI they didn't have to think about these things, but through YoI's massive popularity, the two fandoms are mixing more than before, which is great.
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I feel like people are losing sight of the issue here, which isn't whether or not Baldfat is canon, but whether or not there even IS a canon in the first place
> In the end Kubo commented about the fact that YOI can be interpreted in various ways and that, even though in interviews they ask her details about the story and so she answers, she actually encourages people to interpret the series how they prefer, without necessarily being influenced too much by what she says in interviews.

The dumb bitch is literally giving the audience free reign to interpret anything they see as anything they want to. It's evasive, cowardly and a god awful attitude for a writer to have, but in the end we're probably never, ever going to be able to say Baldfat are canon or not. If we want them to be, they are. If not, they aren't. Her stupid comments aren't enough to change my perception of Baldfat so far, but it's a clear red flag for future writing and we should all keep our hopes very low if we want scenes that can't be 'interpreted' as not homo.
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>>153386199
>but "lol they're comrades" is fucking dumb no matter which way you cut it.
Jesus now, she's talking about a single scene, they still fags, calm down.
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>>153386711
Hibike were based of of light novels that had very clear hetero ends. The anime staff meanwhile inserted "adolescence" for good sales. Its not the same situation with YoI at all.
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>>153386711
>This is just like the KyoAni people saying that Kumiko's relation to Reina/Asuka wasn't gay but instead 'adolescence'. Both of these shows clearly depict romantic love but just don't have the balls to admit it.
No they don't, Kumiko even has a canon male love interest and so does Reina. It's nothing like YoI.
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>>153387264
Leaving things up for interpretation is the usual Nip thing to do though. Its a redundancy clause. She wants people to have fun doing fandom shit, not harrassing others for interrogating from the wrong perspective. Baldfat is canon, but there is a lot that can be up to interpretation outside that fact.
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>>153387011
Also worth noting that while Sayo and Kubo are collaborators, Sayo was the one who wanted to make a figure skating anime, and was the one who reached out to Kubo about writing it.

TL;DR people need to stop acting like Kubo is the word of God here
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>>153387264
>The dumb bitch is literally giving the audience free reign to interpret anything they see as anything they want to.
That's something most authors do, I don't think it's particularly weird.
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>>153387264
>It's evasive, cowardly and a god awful attitude for a writer to have
I'm not going to comment on the rest of your post, but Death of the Author has long been a thing. Plenty of writers leave things up to the reader because they don't want to force their own view on fans, which is also a shitty thing to do.
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>>153387169
>Nip fandom know YoI is special and now that they have it they want much more.
Yep. People say that nips will be happy with any shit YOI gives them, but I disagree. Fuck with Baldfat and fuck with fujos bucks.

You can tell by their reaction to Phichit's wedding announcement during the live event what they want, it that wasn't already obvious. They can't go back now after what they showed in S1
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>>153386580
>>paying tons of money to buy wedding rings and putting them on in a church...but they're lucky charms
And now Kubo saying that the rings are like club member charms...It's just too weird and feels out of place. Before it genuinely felt like Kubo was like "here's a gay relationship" to "here's 2 guys who like each other, they have tons of chemistry, but will they actually ever get together? Stay tuned".

My thoughts exactly. She should've just made the ring exchange some casual setting thing if BaldFat isn't supposed to be engaged. Or just skip the rings altogether.
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>>153387264
Even nip creators who write the most explicit stuff in the show say shit like this. It's not new to YoI.
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>>153387530
She didn't have anything to do with the actual ring exchange as it was shown. And she also said the rings are proof of them being soul mates.
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>>153387431
>>153387433
Some ambiguity is fine in writing. But having zero conviction or commitment to the nature of the main couple's relationship, to the point where you're afraid to tell the audience anything about them, is pure cowardice. It's obvious this isn't ambiguity born from interesting writing, it's ambiguity born from fear of backlash and a lack of confidence in the risk they're taking, and it's pathetic.
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>>153387530
Anon, she was surprised by Baldfat wearing matching outfits when performing Stay By My Side at the end of episode 12. She thought Victor joining was going to be an improvised thing. This should show you that while she wrote the script, Sayo Yamamoto is responsible for a huge part in making Baldfat as romanchikku as possible. Kubo doesn't have the final say in their relationship.
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>>153387530
>My thoughts exactly. She should've just made the ring exchange some casual setting thing if BaldFat isn't supposed to be engaged.
Again, she isn't the one in charge of how it came out or how the scene was animated in the end. That's on the director and the animators.
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>>153387291
Citing the source material is good and all but what they depicted were situations of romantic love, that may not have been their intention but if they were trying not to show that somehow they utterly and absolutely failed.
>>153387357
Relation was the wrong word, in both cases it was Kumiko's attraction. Her feelings towards Reina are unreciprocated because of Reina's love towards Taki but the adaptation provides absolutely no indication that Kumiko has any feelings for Shuuichi.
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>>153387605
I don't think it's particularly weird for new medias though, most people do a "Tell all" years later after a work is usually done.


More so, people probably tend to forget how YoI exploded in popularity, I doubt she or anyone in the staff expected it.
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>>153387711
>Relation was the wrong word, in both cases it was Kumiko's attraction. Her feelings towards Reina are unreciprocated because of Reina's love towards Taki but the adaptation provides absolutely no indication that Kumiko has any feelings for Shuuichi.

Because it's shitty writing over an established thing made to sell DVD to people who can't tell they were baited. It's an het work with few Yuri scenes inserted in.

Anyone could see what they were doing from miles away, it's very careful and manipulative, but it's not like YoI in which the opposite is true, I.E. they are faggots but there few scenes that may make you think otherwise.
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>>153387585
>>153387698
Didn't the storyboard have the setting the same as the scene itself?
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Guys, one simple statement (or better, a word, "clubmates") inside a magazine while discussing a shitload of other stuff which at the end of the day it just happen to be just a rambling speech not to be taken too seriously, cannot ruin the show.
Don't be drama queens and keep on supporting Russian Jesus x Katsudon.
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>>153387605
>zero conviction or commitment to the nature of the main couple's relationship, to the point where you're afraid to tell the audience anything about them
I think you're overreacting. This isn't Samumenco. They're already pretty convicted of Baldfat being together.
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>>153387264
This is what worries me too, I'm scared that in the end there will ONLY be vague shit between Baldfat since she keeps spewing the "it's up for interpretation" thing.
It's pretty mind boggling that even after weeks following the end of it airing, we're STILL discussing about whether or not so-and-so happened.
>episode 7 => hiding Victor's "kiss" with Yuuri (though pretty obvious that it was a kiss) if you think about the story progression
Seriously though, if I was just a regular viewer and didn't follow Kubo on twitter and went to discussion boards, I think I'd have a hard time discerning if it was a hug or a kiss. It's just annoying as fuck that we needed to analyze Kubo's tweets to REALLY confirm if it was a kiss.
>episode 10 => entire ring shenanigans
To be honest after watching through the episode the first time, I left the episode thinking that the rings were just lucky charms since that's what Yuuri said it was for. But there was the whole idea that "Oh it's a symbol that Yuuri loves Victor but he's confused with his feelings, which is why he presented the rings as lucky charms...he doesn't want to keep Victor all to himself".
But NOW Kubo is saying that it's like friendly club charms? Fuck that.
Usually we're dumped with explicit plot points in anime but this vague shit is just annoying. I feel like at this point, tons of fans' ideas that Yuuri and Victor love each other romantically are just headcanons.
I'm prepared for tons of vague shit in season 2.

What we're going to see:
>Yuuri and Victor always hanging with Yurio like they're friends
>When they're alone they only talk about skating, with few implied flirting moments
>something like Yuuri saying that he loves Victor but then saying that he also loves Yurio and everyone who's supporting him, so more "does Yuuri love Victor romantically or not" bullshit
>vague relationship between Victor and Yuuri throughout the season, with an underwhelming ending showing them just as skating mates
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>>153387921
>>>/cm/
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>>153387870
Not really, it was pretty bare
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>>153387711
They literally inserted yuri scenes and said they wanted to depict "adolescence". Maybe you don't understand, but "adolescence" is doing gay stuff as a phase. They knew they looked sapphic as fuck. They mentioned it in an interview, its literally not the same thing as YoI.
https://ultimatemegax.wordpress.com/2016/01/26/animestyle-007-sound-euphonium-interview-director-tatsuya-ishihara-series-director-naoko-yamada-part-2/
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>>153387898
Didn't she not completely rule out the marriage thing either? Like it was dumb to say "more so clubmates rings" but, still.
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>>153387870
I don't remember it having much other than their expressions. I don't think it specified they were outside a church and having a choir singing.
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>>153387980
>if I was just a regular viewer and didn't follow Kubo on twitter and went to discussion boards, I think I'd have a hard time discerning if it was a hug or a kiss.
Only if you were retarded. I marathoned yoi and didn't read the threads or any comments and I thought it was rather obvious.

>Yuuri and Victor always hanging with Yurio like they're friends
Doubtful. Don't confuse promo art with the story.
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>>153387845
I'd have to disagree with you. Every adaptation is not always a direct adaptation of its source material and should, in my opinion, be considered its own version of the story. While admittedly there was no Yuri ending, there was also no Het ending at all. At best, it's up to interpretation either way and clearly we're unlikely to agree on it but I think that's also okay, neither one of our interpretations takes anything away from the others.
>>153388000
Just so we're on the same page, what you're telling me is the added scenes to depict yuri romance but then also claimed they weren't actually depicting a yuri romance. Claiming 'adolescence' as an excuse to depict yuri but claim it isn't doesn't make it not yuri it just makes it an excuse so you can sell more BDs by convincing otaku that their waifu's aren't actually gay.
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>>153387980
>, I think I'd have a hard time discerning if it was a hug or a kiss.
Uhh, not really. After Victor's words and the reactions? Unless you believe Victor was meant to surprise Yuuri and everyone else with a fucking hug (which he already did in ep4).

Normies I know and have seen had no problem seeing that was a kiss. There's no wavering of Victor's face toward Yuuri, he even closes his eyes.
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>>153388211
>(which he already did in ep4).
*ep5, I mean
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>>153387264
She literally said not to take her interviews too seriously like you are right now. A lot of stuff changed and a lot of people worked on it. Its not just because its "up for interpretation" but because Sayo changed her original ideas as is her right as director. She even commented on how surprised she was at the end of ep 12 since Sayo changed her idea of pairskating in the anime. Take it up with Sayo, who likely added most of the gayer implications as she has done in her other anime. (And who we know added the end of ep 9 and chose wedding bells and church background) Thus the kuboforgot.jpg meme
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>>153387870
But Kubo didn't draw the storyboard, only the name.
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>>153387980
>Seriously though, if I was just a regular viewer and didn't follow Kubo on twitter and went to discussion boards, I think I'd have a hard time discerning if it was a hug or a kiss. It's just annoying as fuck that we needed to analyze Kubo's tweets to REALLY confirm if it was a kiss.
Really? To me it was obvious it was a gay. The framing is that of a kiss, Yuri shocked expression and words afterward.
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>>153387870
Sayo did most of the storyboards. It wasn't a co directing gig, despite what you might think since Kubo is the face in interviews and stuff.
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>>153387980
Hopefully in S2 (because we all know there's gonna be a S2 at this point) they'll work with a better schedule and with contents to fit 12 episodes and not 24 like this previous season. It felt packed, rushed and seriously badly executed in the last 2 episodes, which that's also why I'm convinced that BaldFat's relationship has suffered from it. It's not what Kubo has been saying lately, it's the script who was already messy when the series aired especially last 2eps.
We were born to deliver BaldFat kissu.
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You're all paranoid beyond repair
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>>153388311
What a shocking hug
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>>153388370
Trust /a/ to be this triggered over pointless shit
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>>153387980
To be fair, Kubo probably doesn't actually have authority to call an official "canon" any more than the VAs or production team does. Anime is a team effort, but Sayo is project lead/showrunner as director and techically has creative authority.
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Western fans are mistake
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>>153388311
Seriously, how the fuck do people watch this and are like "yep, totally a hug"? They even highlight the lips. If it was only a hug, both of their faces would not be in front of each other.
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>>153388370
She straight up said people are free to no homo it if they wish, which is exactly what we were all worried about from the start.
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>>153388370
I can't believe anons are discussing kiss again, seriously y'all need to rewatch it and calm down
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>>153388548
Its not her right to just call it canon though. Its not actually her show or her IP. Shes isnt a director or the lead of a production company.
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>>153388537
Victor was lucky he didn't break both of their front teeth with that stunt.
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>>153388548
It works both ways. It also means people can full homo it if they wish. You need to stop caring about hetfags.
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>>153388311
But also, doesn't this kiss seem too bold for a quick one? It must have lasted not more that 1,5 seconds, how did Victor managed to do it so perfectly? I mean poor Yuuri looks so shook like he's stuck the tongue in his mouth.
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>>153388537
>lip focus
>yuuri's eyes widen
>victor's eyes close

Anyone who actually questions this shit deserves to be blueballed since they are too stupid to live and nothing would satisfy them.
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>>153388548
Because she doesn't have the final say.

>>153388633
That's why they landed in a hug imo. They couldn't keep kissing and he had to hold Yuuri's head or else shit would end up pretty bad.
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>>153388666
>But also, doesn't this kiss seem too bold for a quick one? It must have lasted not more that 1,5 seconds, how did Victor managed to do it so perfectly? I mean poor Yuuri looks so shook like he's stuck the tongue in his mouth.
Slow motion Anime magic.

Do not try that in reality.
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>>153388548
She recommended death of the author, It's not a new or bad thing
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>>153388692
Honestly Mikanko reaction made it for me.
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>>153388537
This gif makes me so fucking happy everytime I see it, even months after it feels like the first time.

Baldfat gives me hope, fuck your paranoid asses. S2 will be great and gay.
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>>153388729
Lets avoid generals next time, they are always shitty
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>>153388715
Yeah, it was a brief kiss followed by him cradling Yuuri's head. If he didn't then Yuuri would be needing to go to the hospital.
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Did White Box ever comment on the fact she was inserting her personal comments into the last translations?
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>>153388729
Last week were simpler times.
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>>153388692
Well, it makes sense these are the same people constantly getting this paranoid and doubting everything over some stupid shit.
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can someone please post the Kubo interview that got people mad
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>>153388828
That was Tora. Supposedly they aren't the same person, but they are probably samefag and she seemed confused when someone called her on it.
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/yoi/ paranoia is something else, now you are doubting fucking kiss?
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>>153388796
This. S2 will be awesome, I have faith.
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>>153388890
I hope it's just the same anons who always start this shit. They haven't ever really shut up, but Kubo gave them more reason to bitch.
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>>153388732
I hate it. Fuck, my issue is not with the hug/kiss enigma, but with the timing. I'm sure they kissed, but how did Victor found the time to do it in a matter of 2 seconds before shielding Yuuri's head when they fell to the ground. This still hunts me.
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>>153388747
authors not being consistent in explaining things is also not new. don't know why people are surprised.
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>>153388969
Don't think so much about it.
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What the literal fuck /yoi/. I leave you for 3 days in this is how I find you. You gotta know how ridicilious this seems from an outside perspective. When not even tumblr is latching on to that part of the interview you gotta know you went full retard.
I love you fags but you're all crazy.
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I read Kubo interview and honestly don't see what's a big deal
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>>153389110
Because it was not big deal, thing exploded here because fujos are fucking sick from so much paranoia.
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>>153389099
No wonder Baldfat is so popular, we are all autists
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>>153386090
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>>153389099
All this paranoia is actually making me laugh.
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>what a beautiful friendship
>my son is so lucky to have such an affectionate supporting coach
> I wish Toshiya would hug me like this too
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>>153388747
Death of the author is the most retarded concept in the history of retarded literary concepts.
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>>153389110
It wasn't. It started from here and people worked themselves up over it for awhile. If that anon wouldn't have ever mentioned it when there was nothing else going on people wouldn't have cared. nobody even reads Kubo's long ass interviews.
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>>153387724
This may be part of why kubo and other staff have so many interview that contradict each other.
They never handle popularity that reach to this worldwide level.
If YOI wasn't got this popularity and stay as little niche show with own cult fan, The interview thing would be less messy than it's now.
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>>153389199
no, it's good when authors are retarded
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>>153389199
Tulpafags have no right to talk about other's people retardation.
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>>153387980
>I'm scared that in the end there will ONLY be vague shit between Baldfat since she keeps spewing the "it's up for interpretation" thing.
You better get used to it because this is exactly what's going to happen.
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>>153389099
It's making people like Karice so happy too. she's probably here shitposting about it right now
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>>153388969
Victor is a ninja.
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>>153389167
You might be on something here
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>>153389110
Because it wasn't that big of a deal. Nip fujos take what they want out of the interview and that's it.
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>>153389199
Normally I'd agree with you, but that's literally only because people think they're all cool and postmodernist by applying it to everything even when the meaning is already obvious in the work itself. There's very, very few times it should be used, but if an author just straihgt out contradicts their own work, it's alright. People just need to learn how to use it better or they misunderstand the whole point of that concept.
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>>153389099
Tumblr also think all characters are trans and gay, they never cared about anything like proper characterization.
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>>153389267
It won't. If anything it'll be so blatantly obvious, which it already is, but still, idiots will ask what it means and she'll say just believe what you want
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>>153389189
>my son gets to fuck the beautiful foreigner on his posters
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>>153389158
>>153389110
>>153389330
>>153389201
>It was not a big of a deal

For you. Maybe people didn't like that they undermined one of the most important step in their relationship. They don't like to be mocked.
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>>153389267
Honestly, I don't think Baldfat was vague in s1. They only become vague about it outside the show.
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>>153389189
I know homophobia doesn't exist in YoI, but it would have been priceless to see them react to Baldfat's rings.
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>>153389353
They think Yuuri being fat is positive so they can't into his character at all
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Shut up and post the REAL otp.
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>>153389386
She must love spoiling Victor, I loved how she was calling him Vicchan the first day he arrived.
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>>153389242
Even if an author is retarded, his work is still his creation so at the end of the day, like God, whatever idea or vision he has in his mind for that particular work is law. Which is why I personally avoid looking for interviews of writers/directors because if they end up saying some shit I disagree with, it will bother me as whether I like it or not, it's their creation not mine. Ignorance is bliss.
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>>153389409
You deserve to be mocked for being that upset about it.
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>>153389475
Real endgame right here.
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>>153389475
You spelled "bff" wrong.
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>>153389435
The show is over and now people don't have new stuff to complain about, so they read the interviews and get mad to the author.
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>>153389099
I've seen some upset, it's not like even places like that are a hivemind. But yeah, at least it's not a complete fucking shitstorm.

>>153389409
Proof of soulmates, anon. She was more meaningful about it before anyway, so ignore what doesn't make sense and has less evidence for it.
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>>153389441
Wonder if Mari told them about the rings. They'd be happy for Yuuri.

>>153389467
They also think he's super brown for some reason. And fat.
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>>153389497
I'm sorry I care about characterization, I guess.

You sound like a dump fujo that only care if it's homo even if they are fucking girls on the side.
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>>153389497
Keep telling yourself you didn't originally get excited over a real homo engagement scene happening in anime for the first time
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>>153389099
I'm keking. Dubs confirm, we're all autists that latches on to the tiniest piece of poop because we're still suffering from december.
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>>153389475
Too bad they're stuck with a long distance friendship now.
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>>153389547
I trust Victor though so I'm still excited.
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>>153389530
>Proof of soulmates, anon. She was more meaningful about it before anyway, so ignore what doesn't make sense and has less evidence for it.
You are missing the point. In the show context, Yuuri bought a wadding ring a pulled a Russian proposal for club shit.
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>>153389483
I get what you mean but there could also be other reasons/factors why authors say the shit they say in interviews. Like pressure of some kind. In fact, this comment is weird to me coming from Kubo actually, because as pussyfooting around as she's been, she has treated them as a sort of engaged couple on Twitter by relating the rings to marriage and wanting them to be married and stuff like that. It makes me hard to believe that even deep down she believes what she just said.
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>>153389594
Wonder if Yuuri ever bothers to talk to him other than when he needs something. He doesn't even show up when he's supposed to go out with him.
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>>153389608
>in the show context
>for club shit.

Looks like you are the one missing the point and ignoring what I just said.
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>>153389697
That was more Phichit wanting to go sightseeing with him but Yuuri was crashed out, it wasn't planned in advance.
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>>153389719
Which is? They literally murdered Yuri development. Quit justifying them.
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>>153389635
It's not like she completely invalidated everything else she said before. Now Baldfat are soulmates and also clubmates in their sekrit homo club of two.
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>>153389547
It's still homo and they are still engaged. Yuuri may be autistic but he'd probably die without Victor's hugs.
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>>153389754
No, they didn't. Quit forcing your stupid shit on everyone and getting mad when people don't agree.
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>>153389754
I said
>ignore what doesn't make sense and has less evidence for it

I'm not justifying shit, I'm annoyed by the coment too, but she didn't "murder" anything for you unless you let her. I care more about what I see in the show.
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>>153389774
Yeah, this is what I find funny. They're clubmates in a club where they're the only members.
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>>153389780
Victor should withhold the hugs, but I think he needs them just as much
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>>153389774
>clubmates in their sekrit homo club of two
That's not what the clubmates meant but I'm keking anyway
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>>153389856
Bad idea, Yuuri will start raping people.
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>>153389849
It's cute because they are now rivals as well as clubmates and finaces. the sex will be amazing.
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>>153389774
>>clubmates in their sekrit homo club of two

Can we all just agree that this is what that comment meant and move on
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>>153389938
>you will never spoon the pig, cuddle him while sniffing his neck and fall asleep with your nose in his peachfuzzy neckhair to his soothing and adorable breathing sounds

Why the fuck am I alive again
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>>153389938
Yes.
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>>153389929
>Episode 04: "I want you to stay who you are, Victor!"
Yuuri's actions are so weird and unintelligible that even Kubo fucked up, because the boy doesn't like labels. He's afraid that having Victor only as his coach would prevent him from having him also as something else, like a friend, a brother or a boyfriend. He's simply "going with the flow".
S2 will hopefully define their romantic feelings more, but if Yuuri stays true to this mentality, don't expect to get a real engagement or marriage.
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>>153389894
They're safe so long as Victor is around, Yuuri will just hug rape him.
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>>153390149
Victor needs to be more proactive in that case.
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>>153390149
Wow you really missed the point of that scene. Yuuri wanted Victor as he really is, and Victor is a multidimensional person who fills more than one role for Yuuri.
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>>153389938
Wait, that wasn't what she meant? Is that why you're all killing each other?
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>>153390149
They better stick to his stubbornness. I enjoyed seeing Victor blueballed himself.
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>>153390149
To be fair ep 4 was some time ago in their relationship. Of course he wasn't going to have Victor as a boyfriend then.
The issue is also that Victor kinda lets him do it. I can actually see Victor saying they're boyfriends/fiances and Yuuri not being able to refute it again though.
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>>153388443
mom doesn't look all that shocked
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>>153390376
He deserves it too
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>>153390384
Hiroko and Mari know their bloods
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>>153390384
Mom was the one changing teenage!Yuuri's bedsheets when his room was plastered with Victor posters.
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>>153390384
His dad just realized he isn't getting any grandkids.
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>>153390296
But that's what I'm trying to say. He wants Victor to be everything but nothing of these at the same time.
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>>153390384
Yuuko looks like a fujoshi who just had her OTP become canon
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>>153389774
>>153389938
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>>153390498
Adopt some random russian kid, even if they're beyond autistic BaldFat will definitely be better than orphanages
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>>153390533
He wants Victor to be himself and not just fulfill a role.
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>>153390384
Nishogori is asking himself for the first time how gay sex works.
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>>153390533
He wants Victor to act normally.


Holy shit this show is too deep for some people.
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>>153390621
Nishigori is now realizing why Yuuko didn't go for Yuuri when they were younger.
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>>153390533
It was too early for Yuuri to be definite about any of it anyway. Mainly what I got from that scene was that he took Victor asking about being those roles as faking for him, and Yuuri didn't want Victor to act as something that Victor didn't actually want. I'm sure that answer meant a lot to Victor who, being famous, always had to put on a certain public persona in order to charm other people (like acting as a playboy even when he's been searching for a deep, committed love).
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>>153390676
>normally
>Yuri on ice
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>>153390798
be his real autistic hitler but pure maiden?
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>>153389809
You're acting like they're the first ones to say this. Anons have been saying in every thread since the comment that it's belittling to Yuuri's character growth. This one too multiple times.
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