Re: Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu

What an awkward confession

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First for Crusch making Lugunica great again!

Hafu elf communists need not apply.

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Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.

Is there a translation of Echidna AU? Or can someone outline what happens?

>>153344888
All in the pastebin senpai

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>>153344454
Reminder

No New Translations = No New Thread

>>153345033
If i hold your hand perhaps you might reconsider?

Does Subaru ever grow out of this cringey neet tier fantasy role? I ask those who have read snippets of arc 5 and 6.

Just reading this chapter made me feel physically ill from cringe.

>>153345131
No

I may be accepting but I'm also strict

>>153345185
With Emilia? No.

With literally everyone else? Definitely.

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Whatever happened to the IF Rem story that Lemon translated?

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>>153344736
>>153344778

My fellow negroes.

>>153344736
>>153344778
>>153345462
Wait, there is more than one catfag in these threads?

>he is obsessed with Rem to the point of copying her speech to make his forced love interest feel good

Absolute wew. What was Tappei the madman thinking? Hopefully he redacts the kiss in the LN because it doesnt even fit

>>153345583
Ferricrusch, Ramfield, and SubaRem are my pairings

>>153345371
He suffered from accute hyperventilation and diabetus from the chapter.

Rem's love was too much for him

>>153345230
Well that's just disappointing. I thought the point of the series was to not be constantly living in a neet shell of fantasies and Subaru getting with Emilia kills that.

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>>153345743

Good taste

>>153345878
>and Subaru getting with Emilia kills that.
about this, they didn't get together yet

>>153345033
This. Sage until a new chapter pops us please.

>>153345743
>Ramfield

>SubaRem

>Tappei will never give the qt oni meido's a happy ending

>>153345371
It was translated, and you can find it on Lemonwater's page.
>>153345743
You sound like a cool guy. However, I've already set my meme ship on Ramswein.

I don't even care if it's ridiculous. He'd make a better brother-in-law candidate than any of the other fucks.

>>153346347
Why would it be ridiculous?

>>153344454
Stop making thread about this garbage, you fucking son of a bitch.

>>153346471
What a badass boy, I feel intimidated.

>>153346443
Well, I suppose it's not so ridiculous if a miracle happens and Ram gets over the clown, or Otto gets a clown transfusion later.

The thing is, I'd have to feel sorry for the guy. He'd be so whipped, I doubt he'd have even a scrap of skin left.

>>153346471
You really need to kill yourself for trying to spread your retarded redddit:zero meme in every thread.

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Every thread until Rem wakes up.

Im interested in watching the anime so can someone give me a quick rundown on the series? Is it like Konosuba?

>>153344962
I'm sorry, I'm stupid and can't find it. The AU's I see there are Natsuki Rem and Highschool.
Or I guess there's no actual translation Can someone then say what happened in it?

>>153346825
>rundown

Fuck off /pol/

>>153344454
Does he need TP for his bung-hole?

Are you threatening him?

>>153346848
There should be links there for other pastebins.

>>153346825
>quick rundown

It's similar to Konosuba

>>153346825
average NEET gets transported in a fantasy world and has the ability that when he dies time rewinds to a preset point with only him remembering what happened

like Konosuba is an Isekai but it tries to (at least initially) be a deconstruction, as him being a NEET shows how much of an inadequate loser he's in this world too and how he's cringeworthy in thinking he's the protagonist of some sort of RPG so he has to change attitude to get by

Comparing it with konosuba it's like comparing madoka with precure or evangelion with gundam I guess

>>153346991
I checked them but can't find Echidna AU

>>153346848
Echidna AU? It hasn't been translated yet.

That's the one where Subaru goes along with Echidna's plans and constantly kills himself to bruteforce his way to a solution. He's recruited Elsa and uses her to kill himself at the slightest inconvenience. Emilia is completely mindbroken and won't do anything unless Subaru tells her to, and imitates what she's heard about Rem to try to get more of Subaru's attention. Subaru managed to recruit Reinhard after getting killed by him a ton of times, while getting Felt out of the election.

He's on good terms with Roswaal, Ram treats him respectfully, and Otto just fucked off because of the hollow shell he's become. He's no closer to saving Rem than before, as Echidna doesn't seem to want him to go to the Sage Tower and tells him it'd be a waste of time even though it's one of the three possible solutions she presents.

Subaru is still trying to put Emilia on the throne, even though she's now completely unqualified for being anything other than his puppet.

Basically, everything is shit and Echidna is probably going to wind up as the de facto ruler of Lugnica through a chain of puppets.

>>153346825
-Royal candidates bow to Subaru
-In contact with the Witch
-Possess psychic-like abilities
-Control Lugnica with an iron but fair fist
-Owns castles & banks globally
-Direct descendant of the ancient royal blood line
-Will bankroll the first cities underwater (Subaropolis will be be the first city)
-Owns 99% of Witch cult sects in the world
-First designer babies will in all likelihood be Bogdanoff babies
-said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence has never been seen ever
-Ancient Witch cult scriptures tell of an angel who will descend upon Lugnica and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with him
-He owns anger R&D labs around the world
-You likely have anger towards him inside you right now
-Subaru is in regular communication with the author Tappei Nagatsuki, forwarding the word of God to the anime studio. Who do you think set up the meeting between Rem/Ram & Roswaal (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Witch Cult's leader’s first trip to the Roswaal estate in history literally a few days later?
-He learned fluent suffering in under a week
-Nation states entrust their gold reserves with him. There’s no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Subaru.
-Subaru is about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
-In reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don’t know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he's a benevolent beings.

>>153347379
Is it ever confirmed that the AUs and timelines where Honda fucks up and dies are real?

>>153347379
>managed to recruit Reinhard after getting killed by him a ton of times, while getting Felt out of the election
Wow, thanks.
What's Beako's status?

>>153347574
IIRC she's completely deranged by the trauma of being forcibly removed from the library, claws subaru's face on sight

>>153347574
He forced Beako into a contract with him, and she's also kind of mindbroken as a result. I think she has a habit of biting or scratching him, which triggers Emilia to freak out and start freezing everything if she ever notices.

So basically, everyone is a broken wreck and no one is happy.

>>153347514
>THE CALL THAT SAVED LUGNICA

>>153346825
Just watch/read the series, I suggest just reading the manga. You won't get any honest opinions here, as it got taken over by shitposters and the fans won't discuss unless a new chapter is out

>>153348165
>reading the manga

Might as well just read the translations

>>153348322
Good luck finding translations of the first three arcs

>>153344454
>imply that Remfags are autists

>>153344612
Subaru was trying to repeat (and adapt) From Zero, by memory. Of course it was awkward.
I'm kind of amazed he didn't accidentally slip a 'Rem' into their.

>>153348408
Arc 1 is fully translated. Arc 2 and Arc 3 are done by some other translators in their spare time but obviously no one cares since the anime already covers the material.

>>153340594
She is most popular but that is it, Objectively she isn't better than anyone else and her archetype is old as fuck. Which is my point.

>>153340682
Then your blind.

>>153340781
So basically she did stuff and people liked for it. Big whoop. That's pretty every character ever. That doesn't make her better than anyone else.

>>153340816
That's pretty much bullshit. I can relate to Rem at all. Beyond that everyone has relate issues, period. Their people who have had low self of worth like Rem, there people have been discriminated against and been left unwanted like Emilia. Just stop it already.

>>153341696
hat makes no sense. That doesn't suggest incompatible with Subaru and going by that you're saying Emilia can't learn to love anybody ever because she didn't have an example to learn that from at first which is absurd. Love like all knowledge and emotion are learned through living and interacting with others. Emilia didn't have a normal upbringing to learn earlier that's why doesn't know about.

>>153341821
You're gonna have provide citation last two. The first one just a normal girl, Meili show no induction of what love is or caring about it. Betty has lived for eons before she move into the library.

>>153347754
>So basically, everyone is a broken wreck and no one is happy.
Subaru's interactions with Petra are the least healthy in the chapter.
But Petra is happy.

>>153345185
Not sure what found cringe inducing about the chapter but might as well drop the series then.

>>153345878
Getting with Emilia has nothing to do with that. The story was about Subaru to understand her and appreciate her for who she is and accepting her flaws.That's why they got back together at end of Arc 3. Everyone including Rem herself knows his feelings are genuine through his deeds.

>>153345988
Correct, because the story building up to it, instead just dropping it. This chapter showed that Emilia herself is coming around to him after she realizing deep down he's not just saying stuff.

>>153348492
>The first one just a normal girl,
Annerose is probably Roswaal.

>Meili show no induction of what love is
She's got some pretty messed up world views, but no.
>or caring about it.
She doesn't view Subaru romantically, but she does care about him.
Also about Garfiel.

>Betty has lived for eons before she move into the library.
>lol_nop.jpg.png
Echidna created Beatrice, and Echidna is only around 420.

>>153348492
>>153348772
back up your claims like everyone else does

>>153348772
>Correct, because the story building up to it, instead just dropping it.

Lol at this delusion

>>153348772
>The story was about Subaru to understand her and appreciate her for who she is and accepting her flaws.

No.

>That's why they got back together at end of Arc 3.

>at end of Arc 3

Did you even read the fucking chapters or are you just going to pretend Subaru almost breaking down from Rem going potato isn't real, Emiliafag?

>>153348772
>through his deeds
is this a joke?

>>153348841
I have? You have read story yourself. Or are you saying their reconciliation didn't happen? That his constant support of her didn't happened? That this chapter didn't happen?

>>153348828
Not that other guy but:

>Annerose is probably Roswaal.
That's not how it works. Roswaal's descendants are his genuine decadents. They aren't him. He only takes over their bodies when he feels it's time.

>She's got some pretty messed up world views, but no.

Then can you citation where states or shows that she knows what love is? Otherwise your putting words and ideas into characters who haven't weight into any subject your talking about yet. It's like me saying saying Wilhelm can sew without anything backing it up.

>She doesn't view Subaru romantically, but she does care about him.
Also about Garfiel.

I'm pretty sure we talking about "love" not whether someone cares about anyone at all , romance or not. Otherwise we talking about a socialpath who no real feelings.

>Echidna created Beatrice, and Echidna is only around 420.

Betty has been around for 400+ years during the time Echidna was alive. She hasn't been in the library from birth, infact she only give Betty to watch it before her death. She has interacted with multiple before and since then.

>>153346825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfQ-dYgWEGk

>>153349062
So why reconcile why her then? So why does he state he loves her then? Why hasn't his feelings wavered? Why others like Crusch teased him about it? If there relationship is supposed to break why doesn't instead of it growing stronger?

Delusion? You're one who being that. You accept what you want and deny what you don't. It's like speaking to a Trump Supporter.

>>153349226
>No.

Except that what he does in this chapter. I and Tappei couldn't give a shit if can't take the Oni horn out of your mouth to see that.

>Did you even read the fucking chapters or are you just going to pretend Subaru almost breaking down from Rem going potato isn't real, Emiliafag?

WTF are you talking about? What does what happened with Rem have anything to do Emilia and Subaru's reconciliation that happened at the and of Arc 3? No seriously WTF?!

>>153349602
No? He puts his life on line for her at loothouse when fought together. He stuck up for at Royal Election meeting which end up him getting commended by the head Sage of the concuil for it. Subaru spent half of Arc 3 rushing back to manor to warn of her of Witch Cult and even gathered together an army to help her nad the villagers. Why the fuck are denying what;s in the text now?

>>153350211
That he was willing to throw it away?

Or the fact that Otto has to break it into him that Emilia isn't flawless?

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>>153350211
>It's like speaking to a Trump Supporter.

Please fuck off back to tumblr

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>>153348772
All of this reasoning is flawed in that basically assumes that only Subaru and Emilia matter, conveniently leaving out characters like Rem and their influence

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>>153350754
Noticing how our emiliafag is afraid to mention Rem due to how triggering it must be for him.

>>153350211
>So why does he state he loves her then?

We've had this argument many times, in the last thread, can you counter those before re-stating them again for fuck sakes?

>Why others like Crusch teased him about it?

Do you know who know who else they also tease? Do you know who they cockblocked? Do you know who recognizes them basically as a couple?

>If there relationship is supposed to break why doesn't instead of it growing stronger?

Yes, that's part of him growing up, as he had been using her for his hero complex, and still does. Remember his monologue about being unable to show his "weak side" to anybody but Rem?

If you want to bring some /pol/ shit into this its you who is a Trum supporter in terms of arguments, you don't even back up claims, and you re-route arguments into nonsensical places, but one you are beaten, you stubbornly talk about something else or the same damn thing. Hell, you weren't even good when it comes to continuity, as you say things and when someone points it out you pretend it never happened. Must I go back into last thread and quote everything?

>>153350629
>That he was willing to throw it away?

He wasn't. He couldn't do anything to save no matter what he tried and even got killed the more he help that's why. He has no power make to make his wishes come true was just ramming his int brick over and over again making everyone hate him. He tells Rem all of that. That's why asks for help to save her, because he can't do alone.

>Or the fact that Otto has to break it into him that Emilia isn't flawless?

That's not anyway relevant. Anyone could told him Emilia wasn't flawless, it's whether believes that himself and comes to terms with knowledge that is important. That's why he realized he cuddle her and doing things for her. Supporting someone emotional also means they have be strict with them sometimes because they are better what acting as now, hence this chapter. Subaru Emilia and Rem a lot, but he doesn't always approach sometime helps there others to give him a new perspective to do so.

>>153351162
>He wasn't. He couldn't do anything to save no matter what he tried and even got killed the more he help that's why. He has no power make to make his wishes come true was just ramming his int brick over and over again making everyone hate him. He tells Rem all of that. That's why asks for help to save her, because he can't do alone.

Are you retarded? I was talking about the end of arc 3. Where he throws away all his achievements because of Rem. Even his reconciliation with Emilia, he did not care about what he got with Emilia, but instead cared about the potato. Further re-instating that he ONLY saw hell once he re-spawned, even though Emilia, his supposed "end all be all girl" was with him.

>>153350754
No it doesn't. Rem is not the only person who influences him, she not his only friend. She is apart of his life as much as anyone esle, but not involved every aspect of it.

>>153350929
Why would avoid mentioning her? Suabru loving Emilia has nothing to do with Rem and his feelings co-exist with his for Emilia. It's not a zero sum game so why should I mention her?

It's like Remfaqs don't talk about SxR without bringing up Emilia. The only people who denying anything are Remfags in this thread so far.

Are the clown and Toyota brothers in law now?

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>>153350936
Truly, we have descended back into the dark ages

>>153351458
>SxR

Either lurk more or fuck off.

>>153350211
>If there relationship is supposed to break why doesn't instead of it growing stronger?

I dun't know about you bust all the evidence points to the contrary. With Emilia herself recognizing it in arc 6.

>>153350936
>We've had this argument many times, in the last thread, can you counter those before re-stating them again for fuck sakes?

If had those arguments then has probably countered already, but likely closing your ears and going lalala. If you need keep acting dumb like this then I will put up the question as many times as I need to.

>Do you know who know who else they also tease? Do you know who they cockblocked? Do you know who recognizes them basically as a couple?

So basically the story recognizes Subaru x Emilia and Suabru x Rems as pairings. I nvere said otherwise.

Your one arguing about it because you a delusion Remfaq who can't accept that. Not my problem.

>
Yes, that's part of him growing up, as he had been using her for his hero complex, and still does. Remember his monologue about being unable to show his "weak side" to anybody but Rem?

No he doesn't. His hero complex cause to do stupid stuff like lash out against Julius and refuse to work others unless they help unilaterally. He didn't want to work other because he jealous of their abilities to of being amazing and their cover hat with is hollow pride.

Not wanting to show his weakness to Emilia has to do with not worrying her.

>
If you want to bring some /pol/ shit into this its you who is a Trum supporter in terms of arguments, you don't even back up claims, and you re-route arguments into nonsensical places, but one you are beaten, you stubbornly talk about something else or the same damn thing. Hell, you weren't even good when it comes to continuity, as you say things and when someone points it out you pretend it never happened. Must I go back into last thread and quote everything?

I only made comparriosn, it doesn't have be the subject Stop whining about it already.

>>153351263
>Are you retarded? I was talking about the end of arc 3

No, but I think you are. What I talking happened in the last chapter of Arc 3 not the eplogue or the interlude. You get into a stupid pedantic argument about semantics because have nothing worthwhile to say.

Talk about much ado abut literally nothing. For fucksakes, I know your obsessed with but stop bring Rem into every goddamn thing that doesn't have to do with her.

>>153352052
>let's ignore what immediately happens afterwards because it suits my argument

Jesus christ, not even spfag was this delusional. Put on a trip already so I can filter you.

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>>153351871
>If had those arguments then has probably countered already, but likely closing your ears and going lalala
>>153325838
>and that's my interpretation, if you see it differently, then you have to deal with it as simple as that.

I'm sorry?

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>>153352115
Masterfully played my good sire

>>153352052
And another thing genius. Subaru has stated that wants a happy end where everyone is happy and alive. He doesn't want a future without either Emilia or Rem. Anyone who doesn't have an oni horn up their ass can see that.

>>153352115
Anon that's cheating
You can't use hard evidence like that. It has to be based on opinions.

>>153352109
Says the Remfaq who conveniently denies one thing Subaru says and pops up another to suit their argument.

Notice that I have not said one discerditing Rem that has been in story, but dumabasses like you are discredits Subaru's feelings and developments between him and Emilia whole sale.

I'm not entertaining you lies and willful ignorance. Please stay mad over the fact two parings exist will continue to do so.

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>>153352115
Qeue the "I'm not that anon" quote in 5

>>153352527
>discredits Subaru's feelings and developments between him and Emilia whole sale.

>developments

Practically nonexistent but with this recent chapter, emiliafags must be cumming themselves hard before the inevitable decline in arcs 5 and 6.

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>>153352527
>Descrediting developments between him and Emilia wholesale
>Forgets other chapters exist and focuses on the developments this chapter only instead of the narrative as a whole
>Ignores the decline that is the year gap

Yeah, I can't take you seriously anymore. Both may have developed by its definitely not attributing to supporting their romance, let me tall you that.

>>153352115
I don't who is talking who that post, but whatever it is sounded like he answered you. I'm not going to supports someone else's argument because your too lazy counter mine.

>>153352361
Okay let's play a game then!

Fact or fiction

Did Subaru and Emilia reconcile?
Did Subaru tell Rem that he loves Emilia and ask for her help to say her?
Does Subaru want help Emilia become King and using the Sanctuary 's situation as stepping stone towards that?
Did Suabru believe he was too weak to help Emilia in From Zero?

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Reminder that Betelgeuse did nothing wrong and is best girl

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>>153351458
It's you who said
>The story was about Subaru to understand her and appreciate her for who she is and accepting her flaws
>the story building up to it

Glossing over the fact that him being deeply in love with Rem throws a huge wrench to "the point of the story" and liken her with other side characters is rather disingenuous.

Also chasing both girls won't be a sustainable option forever, Ram will crack on any poly route

>>153352661
Maybe you drop this story. It's clearly too smart when all you can see is oni pussy. Naruto more up your ally.

>>153352830
And I can't tale seriously when you deny their romantic developments and how they have gotten closer to each other in every arc.

>>153353053
It's also funny because we still don't know why Subaru is there in Lugnica and Tappei has yet to reveal the reason for the story yet this Emiliafag wants to make the assumption that it's Emilia's story.

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>>153352234
>not wanting a future without Emilia

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>>153353100
>Maybe you drop this story. It's clearly too smart when all you can see is oni pussy. Naruto more up your ally.

>h-he must be a remfag!

Yep, you're paranoid and delusional. It's okay though because even if I were a remfag I still wouldnt be mad about this chapter or your shitposting.

>>153353053
Nothing I said and I directly stated Rem no effect on his love Emilia. He says ot himself, she included in it, but Rem can't replace her. Suabru loves Emilai for entirely different reason then Rem and his romantic with her are tailored towards that. What part of this hard to understand?

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waifu wars were a mistake

>>153352890
All of those are loaded questions so let's give you some good answers instead of simple ones.

>Did Subaru and Emilia reconcile?

Yes they did, twice, but Otto was the one to break it to Subaru the hard truths even after the arc 3 reconciliation which forced another reconciliation for arc 4. Even after the arc 4 reconciliation everything is still shoddy about it as no progress has been made and Subaru is even afraid to enter anything romantic with Emilia.

>Did Subaru tell Rem that he loves Emilia and ask for her help to say her?

Yes he did but he also said this during "From Zero" >>153342566

>Does Subaru want help Emilia become King and using the Sanctuary 's situation as stepping stone towards that?

No, his main objective was to save Sanctuary which was part of his bet with Roswaal and Subaru's kekaiku, and its further emphasized when Puck literally said "I'm going to leave now you better comfort my daughter or everyone dies" while literally comforting Emilia so he can talk to Puck, aka kekaiku. His objective to free Sanctuary was to save everyone, which is why he is trying to bring Garf to the mansion as well, and went to the cathedral instead of keeping Emilia safe from the assrabbits at first.

>Did Suabru believe he was too weak to help Emilia in From Zero?

Yes but also

>Rem turned down accompanying him on his escape.
>That basically meant that he couldn’t use this method to save her anymore. If he stayed by her side to protect her, what lied ahead would be a cruel fate for this girl who would head to the mansion――and that wasn’t all; there was also the cruel fate of the tragedy of the dead-end that could not be altered.

Your turn my friend.

>>153353254
>this delusion

So you learn nothing "From Zero", okay then.

>>153353268
Great shitposting man.

Eitherway the story supports what I say, that why I can say it. I'm sure Tappei would tell you fuck with your lies if he were here. Stay dumb then.

>>153353100
>have gotten closer in every arc.
>Their romantic relationship's been stagnant for over a year
>Subaru'll become devoted to Rem after she wakes up and Emilia'll have to do everything to get Subaru's attention since the guy might just ignore her.

No they haven't got closer after each arc.

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Bros, you're going too far. Enough.

>>153352890
I fucking knew it
>>153352559

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>>153353506
>Eitherway the story supports what I say, that why I can say it.

>>153352661
>m-muh decline
>one line represents the entire work

It's sad that EOP Remfags relies so much on this.

>hafu erufu fags get one chapter

>immediately begin to shitpost hard despite knowing that Suzuki will pick the blue potato

Like why even bother picking a sinking ship? If the Honda Rem AUs aren't giving you a clue about what will happen in the ending then you are stupid.

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You guys are still doing this back and forth shit? Go check the foreshadowing that the newest manga chapter left out, at least discussing lore is more interesting.

>>153353807
Actually its around 12 chapters but if you want to deny those 12 chapters exist then fine, you can go right ahead.

>>153353666
>666
H-hey satan

>>153353666
Satanic trips confirm that hafu erufu fags are cherrypickers

>>153353837
Tappei has written those AUs because the content in them will never come true.

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>>153353506
>So you learn nothing "From Zero", okay then.
Oh god so you can't understand a fucking joke

let me explain it to you:
the punchline is that Emilia is terrible, so a future without Emilia is a good thing and not wanting it should be met with disappoint

>hafu erufu chapter
>delusional Remfags jumps on anyone who consider Subaru and Emilia's relationship
>Start complaining about Emiliafags and blame them for everything

Why I'm not surprised ? those threads became cancerous as hell.

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>>153353970
Yeah and in Evangelion Angelic Days Shinji doesn't end up with Asu -oh wait

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>>153354056
Stop acting like such an angel, consideration is one thing but to state it as outright fact with evidence pointing to the contrary is another. Not to mention you're being hypocritical.

https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/152493061/#q152493061

>>153354222
and this

https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/152489072/#152489072

Is anyone translating arc 5? I'm going at a steady pace through 4, but I see chicken is way behind compared to the guy on Mega, and lemon only has a handful of chapters from 5 but is working on 6.

>>153354419
I think Summaryanon will do it as he's finishing Arc 4

>>153353387
Adhominem in 5

>>153353387
Nah, their simple and easy question that are direction answered in the source. They only difficult for possessive Remfags to answer, but they can't lie about it.

>
Yes they did, twice, but Otto was the one to break it to Subaru the hard truths even after the arc 3 reconciliation which forced another reconciliation for arc 4.

You're deliberately avoiding an easy question and bloating your response. The correct answer is yes. No reconciliation happens in Arc 4. They started a small fight literally began and end at the same time. It's not like in Arc 3 when they part ways for days.

>Yes he did but he also said this during "From Zero"

Who cares? That's not relevant my question. Just answer directly and honesty. As stated in the first part of you sentence Suabru did in fact do those things. Full stop. This not about whether he loves Rem because he has CONFESSED TO BOTH OF THEM.

>
No, his main objective was to save Sanctuary which was part of his bet with Roswaal and Subaru's kekaiku,

So this is lie then right?

>If her Royal Selection begins at this Sanctuary, he will do everything in his power to aid her.

>With renewed determination, and firm resolve, Subaru decided.

>Then, as he was clenching up his fists, behind Subaru, entrusting all his weight onto the bed,

>Yes but also
Again you doing the same thing. Everyone these questions could have been answer directly. You "buts" added nothing to my response. As I thought, theses question revealed that you are way too biased about Rem.

You only accept things that does for Rem or others but you can accept things he does for Emilia. You need to added but every answer that nothing to do with question. It's impossible to have an argument with you in good faith until recognized that. The fact is every answer to my questions is yes.

Subaru loves Emilia and has shown time and time again regardless of what she thinks of him and he has come through for at best of his ability. That's a fact.

>>153354222
>retarded interpretations is fact
>accusing someone of hypocrisy
>posts an thread that one OP talks about how retarded Remfags started shitting on an Emilia thread
>all the retarded discussion
>not proof of your cancerous behaviour.

and look! I can posts shitty waifu war Remfag threads too!
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/152128754/#152128754
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https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/149415587/#149415587

>>153347514
>-First designer babies will in all likelihood be Remilia babies
Fixed

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>>153354568
>Doesn't know a shitposter-kun thread when he sees one
>The discussion dies quickly instead of perpetuating like the examples I listed
>Using the anime-only threads as an example instead of novel readers.

Sure buddy

It's literally impossible for Subaru and Emilia to end up together.

For one, Emilia is a half elf and ages way too slowly compared to a human. Subaru will be dead from old age before Emilia reaches biological adulthood.

On top of that, there's the running theme in the series of maturing. Subaru chose to "love" Emilia on a whim as she was the first girl he met. Every romantic interaction between the two was either nonexistent, forced - like this chapter with the speech and kiss- or just badly developed. Despite his constant memeflirting, it's obvious that he's clinging to her on a subconscious level over his own insecurities. As Subaru realizes that he's living out his delusions by trying to act as the de facto hero and winning the hand of the beautiful princess, he slowly comes to the reality of the situation and begins to mature. This is evidently seen in glimpses throughout the later arcs and will probably surface again near the final arcs.

Of course, he does care for Emilia but not any more than Rem, Ram, the villagers, or any of the friends he's made so far. There's nothing to suggest that he loves Emilia above everyone else in the story.

Ignoring all of this or the fact that the author himself likes to deviate from the cliches of the Isekai series, we can also look into the plot and characters itself to see why Subaru being with Emilia doesnt make sense. Emilia is in line to win the throne - and will most likely win since that's her role - which means she can't marry someone like Subaru - who wants to be her knight. All this points to is Subaru saving Emilia from Satella, helping Emilia win the throne and getting the happy ending for everyone but nothing more.

It's silly to ignore all the aforementioned above and still insist Subaru will win Emilia. Really, his most likely partner is Rem due to how compatible they are and how romantically involved Tappei has written them into the later arcs - romance that is found nowhere with his interactions with Emilia

>>153354657
Atleast she's at her peak to breed with
>reaches biological adulthood
Half Erufus live around 400 years right?
How long do Onis live again?

>>153354654
>b-but this is just one shitposter! it's not the true remfag shitposting!

Get your No True Scotsman bullshit elsewhere

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>>153354561
I can't believe what I'm reading right now.

>He chose both of them!
>Stop bloating your answers!
>Stop adding "buts"!
>You're way too biased despite the evidence portrayed!

Also

>So this is lie then right?

No its not a lie, what I did say was that was not his main objective. But rather something he took into serious consideration when saving Sanctuary.

>>153354738
Onis age normally like humans iirc.

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>>153354657
>Of course, he does care for Emilia but not any more than Rem, Ram, the villagers, or any of the friends he's made so far. There's nothing to suggest that he loves Emilia above everyone else in the story.


This is it, this is the most hilarious denial I will ever see this year, you win.

>>153353376
I agreed. This mostly the fault of Remfags though. They are so buthurt about Rem's situation that they are doing everything the desperately can to downplay the other parting and prop up and minuscule they can about their own pairing even though it is useless. Subaru has already stated he loves both of them and Rem's status has not stop him expressing to Emilia and deepening their relationship as result. Whether it's moving fast or slow is irrelevant it doesn't change his feelings. Let it go and deal with it because this is the reality.

If they stopped being buttblasted and accept things as they come these threads would be a lot better. Let Subaru have his moments others than her.

>>153354738

I don't think their life expectancy is much different since Rem talked about wanting to die before Subaru.

>>153353840
I'm really glad to see these scenes being included in the manga. It's a shame they sucked out most of the greater mystery the series presented in the anime.

I'm actually considering asking Lemonwater to do the Al stories, to see if there are any clues to his true agenda or identity littered in there.

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I like both girls equally
Fight me /a/

>>153353580
Yes they have.

What gonna do, fight me about it? Ignore it? Doesn't matter, Tappei doesn't care what you think happened.

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>emiliafags exist

>>153354845

>I agree, now let me participate in waifu wars anyway

>>153354912
>Yes they have.

Give me evidence of this then? Seriously, if you're gonna claim something. Back. It. Up.

>>153354738
She's like 17 in elf years but 13 mentally.

>>153354899
you must be the undecisive, adulterous type

Can someone summarize Emilia and Subaru's relationship as of now

whos ruining these threads now? remfags or emiliafags?

>>153353837

What he said.>>153353970

If Rem was winning Suabru then would have stopped loving Emilia long ago, but he's still there even in Arc 6. Until Subaru drops herself or Emilia reverse course with him you can fuck off with that nonsense. Sorry but SxE is here for long haul.

>>153354988
I don't need to back it up. Is in the source material go read it yourself. If you don't like it drop the series. Subaru loves Emilia and all actions point to her winning regardless. Tappei doesn't care what you think happened. That is a fact.

>>153354912
Nah, I just want to call out your bullshit. That's all.

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>>153355004
I'm just that type of person, pic related.

>>153355043
Both, fanboys ruin everything.

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>>153354561
>>153354845
>implying any plan for polygamy will stick

those pairings are boring, what is really interesting is Subaru teaching Ram the joys of being a sexual slave with his dick.

>>153355043
The minority so emiliafags.

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>>153344454
Just sayin'.

>>153355043

Emiliafags like >>153354832

>>153354845
>hey are so buthurt about Rem's situation that they are doing everything the desperately can to downplay the other parting and prop up and minuscule they can about their own pairing even though it is useless.
Ignoring how ESL you are and unable to string together a coherent thought. Emilia and Subaru's relationship BLOWS. In narrative, self-admitted by Subaru, noticed by Rem, Ram, Otto, even fucking Roswaal and commented on. It sucks, it is written to suck. This chapter? This chapter is From Zero for their relationship i.e. they nuked it and are starting over from nothing, even ground. They were negative before. And after this? It goes basically nowhere. Don't get me wrong, this was exactly what they needed, and this is the first hopeful improvement to the dog turd that is their relationship. But nah, keep trying to suck Emilia's dick and rave about how wonderful her and Subaru's romance is when every piece of narrative that exists says it was pure garbage until this exact moment, and even then it only sets it to zero.

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>>153355064
>Suabru then would have stopped loving Emilia long ago, but he's still there even in Arc 6

Have you read arc 6? Its tapering off, Emilia even says its tapering off. Emilia herself even says she has to compete for his affection now.

>>153355083
You have GOT to be fucking kidding me

>>153355043
Some time ago Remfags where moderate, now they're full time shitposters.

>>153355170
If I ruin threads by laughing at your stupidity then I'm doing public service.

>>153355083
>I don't need to back it up

What did he mean by this?

>>153354056
Because their super insecure about their ship. Which is hilarious. They didn't even listen to what Subaru about loving both. He's gonna keep developments with which is present with at the moment. Rem's absence in the story must is really getting to the die hards.

>>153355083
>I don't need to back it up.
You heard it here folks, Emiliafags don't need your 'evidence' or new fangled 'logic' or 'narrative' to back up their stupid points, they just say it and you should bow down to the giant farting noise that is their 'argument'

>Subaru loves Emilia and all actions point to her winning regardless.
Oh god its serious, let me laugh even harder.
>Breaking every promise he ever made to her
Winning
>Abandoning her at the slightest difficulty
Winning
>Barely remembering she's even around 99% of the time
So much Winning it hurts, EMT clearly #1

>>153355274
It means he can't back it up

>>153355132
>Subaru teaching Ram the joys of being a sexual slave with his dick.
She's been there, done that with bigger dicks.

>>153355245

>>If I ruin threads

Would you look at that, you do have self awareness emiliafag.

And no, you're not ruining any remfags dreams because we all know what's happening in general in arcs 5 and 6. This is quite literally the point where their romantic involvement takes a nose dive.

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>>153355320
You sure know a lot of things about clowns dick

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>>153355132
Ram is assumed, not a virgin.

I wish that she found herself a better man though

>>153355324
Nice try cherrypicking what I said but you remain stupid.

alsp

>>153354056
More like
>Half elf chapter
>People start discussing Emilia
>Emiliafag comes in and starts claiming Emilia is perfect, Rem is dead and forgotten and that Emilia will win because he says so and no other reason
>Gets mad when other people don't suck half elf dick and shitposts for literally 2 days straight.

>>153355384

I'm not surprised but it's still gross to me. Roswaal always gave me weird old man vibes.

>>153355447
Pray for Otto and Gaaf

>>153355364
Have you seen his dick? Its fucking massive.

>>153355424
>>Emiliafag comes in and starts claiming Emilia is perfect

No one ever
All started with a single post of someone saying good things about chapter and Emilia and Subaru and then retards derailed it with hurr durr Subaru can't love Emilia

>>153355464
Gaaf is used goods, Mimi got to him. He's marked now and she's going to use her blessing to make Tivey and Hetaro experience the joys of childbirth.

>>153355529
>All started with a single post of someone saying good things about chapter and Emilia

It started with your shitposting, emiliafag

This is why the threads went to shit as of lately.

>tfw I want Emilia to win Subarubowl
>tfw Rem is a qt oni though

Does anyone have young Rem trying to use magic on a log or something

>>153354823
Ah so you agree. Thanks for input!

>>153355181

>Have you read arc 6? Its tapering off, Emilia even says its tapering off. Emilia herself even says she has to compete for his affection now.

That doesn't make any sense. How would she know it's tapering off? Since when does she speak for Subaru's feelings? You are just desperate for anything as validation for a Rem ending aren't you?

I've already bits of Arc 6 and nothing about his feelings changed regarding her and if did wouldn't be coming from a 3rd party. This kind of thing makes these thread bad: agenda driven interpretations.

>>153355529
>Says Subaru and Emilia's shit relationship is super deep and good and just as good as Rem's
>All narrative says the contrary and this is the third time Subaru has tried rebuilding it from nothing
>It still sucks and goes nowhere a year later
>Every side character still giving him shit for it
>So good, such deep, much love

>>153355529
You mean them looking back and pointing to chapters that disprove your argument? Because that's all I've ever seen the Remfags do, while Emiliafags have only ever drawn some ship art and claim it as damning evidence. Apposing opinions aren't "retards derailing the thread".

>>153355579
>b-but no u!

what an intelligent throwback, i'm amazed.

>>153355634
It's not hard to read the archived threads, emiliafag

Why are you so angry when people point out your shipper shitposting?

>>153355384
>>153355447
He's actually giving her mana, but it doesn't mean it doesn't have a sexual connotation

Oni's horn is a literal boner so the clown giving her mana toching her scar it means he basically fingers her almost every day

>>153355602
>This kind of thing makes these thread bad: agenda driven interpretations.
Like your's?
>From Zero was all about Emilia!
>Pretty much every Rem scene is actually about Emilia!
>Subaru loves Emilia so much, please ignore all the times he forgets about her, doesn't believe in her, those don't count because I don't want them to
>Please don't use the narrative to back up your points, because I can't be bothered to use the narrative to back up mine, but maybe if I lie and say I am without talking about any scenes or lines because I'm stupid and lazy you'll stop calling me out on not backing things up

>>153355608
>>Says Subaru and Emilia's shit relationship is super deep and good and just as good as Rem's

Literally no one said that you retard.

>>153355617
>You mean them looking back and pointing to chapters that disprove your argument?

>someone makes a comment on the chapter
>b-but my retarded interpretation is better than yours! accept it as absolute truth!

>>153355722
You literally did, many, many, many, many times. I also remember you saying From Zero was all about Emilia, so you can fuck right off.

Has waifufagging really been this bad on these threads?

>>153355384
Yeah, you get that vibe in the anime too with her cuddled with roswaal while he feeds her mana.

>>153355757
No one talked about Rem in that post you retarded spergfag, kindly kill yourself.

>>153355768
No, but given that last chapter is almost entirely about Subaru reiterating his love to Emilia and kissing her this was unavoidable

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>>153355757
Oh my god did someone really say that?

>>153355768

I only started coming here like four days ago when I finished the anime, but I think this really picked up in like the past day or so. Don't really remember it happening at this magnitude before then.

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Random cute page from a doujin after Rem asks if Subaru could love her

Rem: Umm umm it’s okay if you don’t love me yet, and I also know that you can’t forget about Emilia-sama yet, and it might be impossible for you to forget right away, but but but I love Subaru-kun, so if I could have half of Emilia-sama’s….No if I have 1/10th of your love…please…I beg of you.

Subaru: Rem…

Subaru: Thanks…I also…love Rem

Rem: Subaru-kun…!

Subaru: Umm, so do we do first?

Rem: Jeez~ Subaru-kun? You can’t ask a girl about how to go about it, you know?

Rem: I don’t mind seeing Subaru-kun’s slightly troubled face either, but it can’t be helped.

>>153355722
It's amazing how you can use that argument both ways, innit?

>>153355768
No, only for this chapter. It'll die down eventually when Emiliafags get tired of shitposting here.

>>153355768
Not recently. We had a pretty good streak of chill threads with good discussions, it had to end eventually.

>>153355768
Generally no, but when the ESL retard Emiliafag shows up it does, because he's an idiot that reads fanfiction and has the most hilariously inaccurate headcanon I've ever seen.

From Zero was about Emilia and not Subaru or Rem, didn't you know? Emilia has a stronger connection to Satella than Subaru because people call her mean names. Subaru super duper cares about Emilia because he said 'I love Emilia' a few times but commonly breaks the promises she takes very seriously, but you should ignore that because he said 'I love you' guys, its super great and deep. Oh and don't bring up that Witch of Lust thing, Rem appearing there doesn't mean he actually cares, in fact, that scene somehow proves he loves Emilia even more than Rem.

He has said all of the above at one point or another.

>>153355863
Hi you're just in time for a massive wave of shitpost

>>153355768
It was like this when the show was airing and episode 25 aired.

emiliafags are repressed, angry souls

>>153355863
>Rem: Umm umm it’s okay if you don’t love me yet, and I also know that you can’t forget about Emilia-sama yet, and it might be impossible for you to forget right away, but but but I love Subaru-kun, so if I could have half of Emilia-sama’s….No if I could have 1/10th of your love…please…I beg of you.
>Subaru: Umm, so what do we do first?

oops, made a few typos.

>>153355898
>but everything changed when the Emiliafags attacked

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>>153355863
>Typesetter anon isn't here yet.

Thank your translation though, I'll be sure to show it to him when he comes back

>>153355904
>waifu wars have been this bad ?
>b-but Emiliafags I swear

You can't be this stupid.

>>153355936
Thanks for saying the obvious

>>153355904
>>153355898
But surely not all Emiliafags are that bad right?
The only other person I've heard who was a shitter was spfag

I havent been on these threads since like a month after the anime ended

>>153355908
I've been following, but I dislike these type of discussions so I thought I'd add something random

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>>153355608
Why can't Subaru just accept that they're not meant to be?

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>>153355863
Remon save yourself, this thread is not safe.

Today is not a safe day.

>>153355930
Cute
>>153355936
It's true
It was usually me just shitting up the thread about Rem, funny how times change

>>153355971
Your random post was the most on-topic thing this thread has had. Thank you.

>>153355863

Cute stuff my dude

>>153355956
Like it or not, remfags are the majority of the fanbase on /a/ AND outside this board. When you shitpost hard against the majority opinion, YOU are the shitposter and the one dragging the discussion down.

We've never had such blatant waifufaggotry here until these emilia chapters because guess what? Most of us are either remfags or tolerate rem and subaru because it's who makes up the core of these threads. We dont need to shitfling as a result. Ffs, look at the endless amount of SoL material Tappei has written for rem and subaru.

>>153355867
but that was it, go check it out yourself.

Not that guy but...
>>153355284
>You heard it here folks, Emiliafags don't need your 'evidence' or new fangled 'logic' or 'narrative' to back up their stupid points, they just say it and you should bow down to the giant farting noise that is their 'argument'

So your saying Suabru didn't fall for Emilai. So saying he didn't spend Arc 1 and 2 getting to know her and becoming friends. So your saying that they didn't have a big fight then reconcile afterwards in Arc 3 after his confession and her subsequent admiration and trust. So you're saying he didn't help find the emotional growth strength she need to over her internal issues like Rem did for him and while she slowly began to fall for him.

But your saying he need to back up shit? They are in fucking story your reading you moron! Holy Fuck!

>Breaking every promise he ever made to her
Nice exaggeration idiot. Oh and by the way keeping like that You abut look like a fiool later on.

>Abandoning her at the slightest difficulty

Yes, liek he totally did with Elsa, the dogs or problems with Sancturay. Nevermind that with a little peptalk he went right back in confessed. Nothing else you say matters to that truth. You got problems with that? Go right up speak to Tappei about if you think your right.


>Barely remembering she's even around 99% of the time

I wonder how fees to have been born retarded.

>>153356079
>Like it or not, remfags are the majority of the fanbase on /a/ AND outside this board. When you shitpost hard against the majority opinion, YOU are the shitposter and the one dragging the discussion down.


finally, you're admiting that you're so desesperate for a hugbox and circlejerking that you can't stop shitposting other people.
if you want that reddit is your place.

>>153355324
>
And no, you're not ruining any remfags dreams because we all know what's happening in general in arcs 5 and 6. This is quite literally the point where their romantic involvement takes a nose dive.

Then Remfags here are retarded and haven't actually read the those Arcs. I'm still waiting for part when Subaru stopped long Emilia.

>>153356132
>Not that guy but
It's statistically impossible there are so many Emiliafags in the same thread

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post cute photos
of any character

>>153355976
At this point, I might as well go ahead and say the reason Subaru still pursues Emilia is that he doesn't want to break the "Rem's hero" promise and stop being the one that Rem loves, the one who would shamelessly do anything to make Emilia fall for him.

>Because Subaru wanted to be the Natsuki Subaru that she loves…

I might be wrong though.

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>>153356236
>any character
bold

>>153356202
>you're so desesperate for a hugbox and circlejerking that you can't stop shitposting other people

I dont mind opposing opinions but when you're the same autist posting the same bait every single thread and screaming "LA LA LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU REMFAGS LA LA LA LA LA EMT EMT EMT!!" while pretending you're such an expert and everyone against you is a remfag you are by default shitposting and ruining the thread.

This isnt that hard to understand, emiliafag. If you want to shitpost freely, go back to /v/ where your kind belong.

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>>153356236

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>>153356236

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>>153356236

>>153356336
>I dont mind opposing opinions but when you're the same autist posting the same bait every single thread

Remfags do this in every. single. thread
repeating the same shitty memes and arguments, you're not any saint either.

>>153356383
>Cute and Strong
How can Reinhardt even compete

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>>153356236

>>153355768
Only this chapter, but we do get shitposts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6U-IXKpfls

But they were quality shitposts.

>>153355712
>From Zero was all about Emilia!
Nice strawman

>Pretty much every Rem scene is actually about Emilia!
Said no one ever. I rarely even mention Rem.


>Subaru loves Emilia so much, please ignore all the times he forgets about her, doesn't believe in her, those don't count because I don't want them to

Nice bullshit bro.

I can make up stuff too!
>Rem was literally murdering retard suffering from autism and he doesn't really like her. She just clingy puppy turn potato he takes care of sometimes.

>Please don't use the narrative to back up your points, because I can't be bothered to use the narrative to back up mine, but maybe if I lie and say I am without talking about any scenes or lines because I'm stupid and lazy you'll stop calling me out on not backing things up

But I did. You just fucking retard who doesn't care because you have a horn in your mouth. So let's just stop pretending that you care abut any other arguments than you own and go back to shitposting. At least your honest there

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>>153356236
I like this one a lot. Catfag should totally color it

>>153356437
That was a good vid senpai.

>>153356408
>Remfags do this in every. single. thread

Citing the novel isnt shitposting, emiliafag.

On top of that most of us dont care about the rem shipping because she's by default the most popular girl and loved by the majority of the fanbase which is why most threads with rem posting are fairly good.

Like why cant you see you're ruining the thread discussion with your incessant shitposting? I like how you dont even bother to deny that you shitpost hard because you're so triggered by remfags being the majority.

>>153356437
Reminder Ferrifag spent 5 dollars on this

>>153356437
>Crusch and Felix
WHAT THE FUCK
WHAT HAPPENED TO FOURIER
I WANT A THREESOME

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>>153356523
He's dead jim

>>153356523
>WHAT HAPPENED TO FOURIER
He died.

>>153356496
It's like going to an Eva thread as a Reifag and bitching about everyone liking Asuka

>"WOW FAGS STOP POSTING ABOUT ASUKA YOU FUCKING SHITPOSTERS LET ME TELL YOU FOR THE 1000TH TIME WHY SHINJI LOVES REI MORE THAN ASUKA BECAUSE MY REASONS ARE BETTER. OH YOU THINK IM SHITPOSTING? WELL FUCK OFF SHITPOSTER REI LITERALLY WON THE SHINJIBOWL AND IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE SHITPOSTING SO I WIN HAHAHAHAHA"

>>153356555
>>153356559
I want to believe that the Cult will ressurect him, Crusch will save him, then he becomes the love interest of Crusch and Felix

>>153355768
Its what happens when hardcore asspained Remfags can't accept that Su6abru loves another person beyond Rem and feverishly tries to deny it. They are super threaten. The more moderate ones don't care have long accept Subaru and Emilia ship exist.

Emilaifags don't this in general though and most couldn't careless about Rem. They certainy didn't go around acting like 5 year olds when has her moments with Subaru.

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>>153356592
You didn't even state evidence for your reasons, ergo its shitposting. Citing the novel is shitposting and talking about the ship isn't shitposting in context to the novel with citations to back it up. But you instead insist on a statement or claim and going "EMT!" without backing up your claims or looking at the narrative as a whole. Its one thing to discuss & argue its another to blindly ignore & adhominem

>>153355904
Nobody said that you deluded twat.

>>153356654

Could you learn English before making another post and save everybody the headache?

>>153356654
>>153356680
>>153356686

All within 40 seconds. Nice try ESL

>>153356680
yeah, you're the only special snowflake that reads the novel, no one does better than you, almighty remfag, philosophers must be rejoicing with your autism.

>>153355925
>emiliafags are repressed, angry souls

You mean Remfags. Emiliafags have nothing to be angry about and we don't need to shit another ship out of insecurity. I do enjoy seeing you mad every time Subaru and her have moments though.

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>>153356738

Nice try, retard.

>>153356797
>photoshopping off all the (you)s when you're supposed to leave one there

You can't even shitpost correctly, fuck off already

>>153356743
Then cite the fucking novel

Holy shit its not that hard

>>153356860
>photoshopping

now that's plain retarded shitposting, but nice try, you got nothing to back your bullshit, go fuck off.

>>153356897
But that's what people have been doing, but everytime you came with bullshit rules like.
>N-no! his feelings doesn't count, only his actions matter!
because of course, only matters when it's convenient for you, now stop pretending that no one did that.

>>153356955
>no (you)s in the posts I've highlighted yet he goes ahead and posts a screenshot showing he didnt make all of those posts yet none of them have (you)s

You're really not too bright

>>153355608
>All narrative says the contrary and this is the third time Subaru has tried rebuilding it from nothing

Nice lies.

>It still sucks and goes nowhere a year later
Nope, and just gradual.

>Every side character still giving him shit for it
Except nobody is against it. Crusch, Wilhelm, Julius, Garfiel and Otto all support it.

>So good, such deep, much love
Yeah as deep as RemxSuabru. Wanna fight about?

>>153355976
Because a real relationship are no based what is meant to be, but the two like each other or not. Subaru likes Emilia, Emilia is starting to fall Subaru. You are never getting you fantasy when Rem has all to herself. Suabru himself wll never allow it. Stay mad or depressed.

>>153357044
>Because a real relationship are no based what is meant to be, but the two like each other or not. Subaru likes Emilia, Emilia is starting to fall Subaru. You are never getting you fantasy when Rem has all to herself. Suabru himself wll never allow it. Stay mad or depressed.

Why do you sound so bitter and angry?

>>153357008
Well yeah, that's called a debate and argument. You state your hypethesis and provide evidence, then others correct or counter-argue with that said evidence with evidence which is harder or equivalent in weight.

Because it is true, that Subaru's words don't match his actions and there have been anons who provided evidence for it. Its up to you to counter that with another hypothesis and use counter-evidence against that. But you instead choose to adhominem and no longer cite evidence to counter such arguments and bring up empty claims.

>>153357044
>Except nobody is against it. Crusch, Wilhelm, Julius, Garfiel and Otto all support it.

Give me statements then.

>>153357095
I didn't adhominem anything, all I did was pointing that Subaru don't think that his actions devaluates his feelings and I used this chapter as basis because there Emilia confronts him about that, but since you can't accept it, you go on your way to create bullshit rules and started retarded shit like people is not using the novel because you can't counter the argument itself.

>>153356496
>Citing the novel isnt shitposting, emiliafag.

mentioning true events that you know happend in the novel isnt shitposting, Remfag. You're just retarded.

>On top of that most of us dont care about the rem shipping because she's by default the most popular girl and loved by the majority of the fanbase which is why most threads with rem posting are fairly good.

Says the shitpostings Remfag. In fact a ton of those thread are because anon like you exist in them.

>Like why cant you see you're ruining the thread discussion with your incessant shitposting? I like how you dont even bother to deny that you shitpost hard because you're so triggered by remfags being the majority.

Pot? Meet Kettle. Besides popularity=/=good. Kira Yamato was face of Gundam for a time as was Sasuke Uchiha with Naruto. Both characters were shit and that stop Rem from no less from being shit ether. So fuck off with taht gradeschool logic.

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>>153357008
>But that's what people have been doing, but everytime you came with bullshit rules like.
>N-no! his feelings doesn't count, only his actions matter!
>because of course, only matters when it's >convenient for you, now stop pretending that no one did that.

Yeah, and we had citations from the novel itself to back it up. To which you said >>153335376 >>153334690

But hey, its what he says about his feeling that matter right?

>>153357044
>Except nobody is against it
This is bull anon. Even Ram gives Subaru tons of shit and has a negative impression about Subaru's love for Rem due to the way he's been memeflirting with Emilia.

>>153357294
You're not welcomed here. I told you why you aren't tolerated well. These threads are majority remfags yet you're crying and bitching that it shouldnt be the case.

Tough fucking luck. Go make an emilia circlejerk thread if you hate the majority opinion here. Cry all you want about these threads being rem circlejerks. It's not our fault you love the shit girl

I'm betting authorities twist the recipients sin to crazy levels. Like Echidna would be obsessed with knowledge but at least she wouldn't devote herself to acquiring it, likewise Minerva would try to heal people but at least she could see the consequences.

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Why the fuck are you people even talking to this guy after he said >>153355083

At this point people should know that its just straight up bait at this point.

>>153357127
Crusch teases him about it. Then tells him that important he rest so he can get back to her.
Wilhelm tells the Witch Cult members he's not gonna let them stand in the way of a man meeting his love. Julius and Garfiel quickly caught on to how he felt about and the former even berates him making her distressed with his antics at the Royal election meeting Arc 3.

Otto thinks she is wonderful person he can get behind since he has gone similar difficulties to her and has no problem with Subaru loving, just putting her on pedestal she can't live up to.

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>>153357550
Can you not fucking read? I said give me statements. Chapter name and number. Now.

>>153357298
That's just how you interpreting Ram's statement. She only one person and she is allowed to have her own opinion. Nobody else cares, and fact you need to bring this up shows how desperate you are validation SxR by discredit SxE. It's not happening, give up already and calm down.

>>153357296
And I had citations to what I said there >>153315222
and I can cite more to as basis to what I claimed about him being aware of his actions

>Subaru: “...I do feel bad about breaking the >promise. That I wanted to keep holding your >hand and
>stay with you until morning was truth.”
>Emilia: “That's not what I asked. —Why did you >break your promise?”
>Subaru: “...I can't say it.”

But no, only they did that, amrite ?

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>>153357589
Why haven't you just left already? >>153357296
clearly fucked you over, and you know that >>153357550 is right, so you just rub your cock over the fact that he quoted memorable lines and not page number and chapter like some fucking essay.

>>153357703
>Subaru: “...I do feel bad about breaking the >promise. That I wanted to keep holding your >hand and
>stay with you until morning was truth.”
>Emilia: “That's not what I asked. —Why did you >break your promise?”
>Subaru: “...I can't say it.”

You've actually fucked yourself over with this statement actually.

Go read Arc 4 Chapter 98 for that counter argument. If he wanted to stay by Emilia's side in the morning, why did he not do so? Why did he fuck off somewhere with Emilia running away?

>>153357703
Yes and those points got counter argued, just look at the replies to that quote.

Look at the insurmountable evidence displaced to counter just that one quote.

>>153357657
>Nobody else cares
Because they don't understand about the whole thing as much as Subaru and Ram do. I mean it's not like everybody needs to have the responsibility to call out Subaru's bullshit. Ram is deeply involved in the matter so of course she feels the need to give Subaru shit and tell him that his love for Emilia is unhealthy.

>>153357804
backpedalling this much ? you have proven wrong on your statement about me not backing my arguments and then you want to argue about ? seriously, just admit it that you're wrong.

And no, this argument does not procceed because my point that Subaru doesn't consider what he did there as devaluation of his feelings for her, in fact, if he had stronger motivations for doing that it just corroborate on what I said.

>>153357903
>hurr people replied to me so they must be right.

And I also counter-argued back, which leads to this retarded discussion.

>>153357928
>>153357703
I'm sorry?
>>153357095

>You state your hypethesis and provide evidence, then others correct or counter-argue with that said evidence with evidence which is harder or equivalent in weight.

>Because it is true, that Subaru's words don't match his actions and there have been anons who provided evidence for it. Its up to you to counter that with another hypothesis and use counter-evidence against that. But you instead choose to adhominem and no longer cite evidence to counter such arguments and bring up empty claims.

I said

>No longer

Which means you had, and stopped doing it. Then pulled out empty claims.

>>153358028
>Which means you had, and stopped doing it. Then pulled out empty claims.

And what Empty claims ? post it, I already backed up my arguments, the discussion moved to retarded >n-no his feelings doesn't count which are just a stupid rule to make your argument convenient.

>>153357990
>hurr people replied to me so they must be right.

I don't think you get the point of what I'm trying to say here. As I said "evidence" as in quotes and citations. Which they did display, in turn which you did not.

>>153358113
>post it and even give new citations
>b-but you not did

Now you're resorting yourself to pure denial, then I have nothing to talk about with you.

Why is this waifufag autist still here arguing with everyone? Holy shit do you want everyone to suck emilia's useless dick or something?

>>153358085
See
>>153340926
Reply
>>153341029

Is one I can spot out but I'll pull more if you want.

>>153358195
I said "which in turn" are you unable to understand basic English?

Do you know what "Which in turn" means?

>>153358221
there is other people arguing back, you retard.

>>153358262
And
>>153314798
>>153315309
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>>153315383
>>153315038

>>153358262
those are not my posts, at least post something I did really said.

>>153357589
I don't have give fucking statement dumbass. You can watch the anime or read the manga/LN/Wn for them.

Here I will spoonfeeed yu this once. If you too lazy to look it up fuck right off.

Crusch - ep 14
Wilhelm - ep 25
Julius - Truth of Zero ch 7
Garfiel Arc 4 ch 13

And you already know about Otto if you bothered reading up to this point. If you can't look it up despite this then fuck off. I'm not playing your game.

>>153358363
Because you're the only one arguing back, retard. No one wants to see this shitflinging here.

>>153357913
>Because they don't understand about the whole thing as much as Subaru and Ram do.

They do, but nobody cares. Stop making ecuse. If was problem those scenes wouldn't have exist. The only ones who taking issue with are you and some other Remfags who desperate fr validation of their ship.

>I mean it's not like everybody needs to have the responsibility to call out Subaru's bullshit.

Nobody is calling it bullshit because it not bullshit. She has no such position to begin with.

>Ram is deeply involved in the matter so of course she feels the need to give Subaru shit and tell him that his love for Emilia is unhealthy.

No she isn't. SHe doesn't remember Rem and when she did remember Rem, Ram still had no problem Suabru loving Emilia.

The only unhealthy thing going on here is your grasping at straws. Stop projecting on to her, she doesn't care abbot Subaru's love life.

Oh god, how many episodes is it going to take before Subaru reveals his Hax power to the other character.

>>153358390
You know that this is another topic right ? I was talking about Emilia and Subaru acting up as a couple togheter in the future, Subaru loves her, Emilia is starting to show signs of love for him, even wanting to fight for his love in Arc 6.

>[Emilia: If it makes Subaru turn the other way, that just means that I’ll be the one this time to do my best for you to turn my way.

Also, that line from Arc 5 that people keep throwing around pretty much confirm that Subaru will be more prepared to step further in their relationship in the future, so that happening in the future is pretty obvious that I didn't felt to waste my time replying.

>>153358684
He did it before, but they died.

>>153358470
Finally some shit to back it up. But are we to ignore when Wilhelm is concerned about Subaru's relationship with Emilia being a dog? Are we to ignore Gaaf's quote from "World Crumbling" questioning his attachment to Emilia? Are we to ignore Otto's harsh talk to Subaru about not saying that Emilia isn't perfect? Are we to also ignore Petra's insights in arc 6?

>>153358741
>that happening in the future is pretty obvious that I didn't felt to waste my time replying.

the possibility of happening in the future*

>>153358741
I think for the main storyline, it's going to have to be Emilia until the climax. Isn't that where this train is going? Emilia becoming a vessel for the Witch? That's a shit storm I'll see with smiling eyes.

>>153358567
>only one arguing back
This proves how blind you are, if you want to blame someone then at least blame everyone participating in it and fuck off.

>>153358674
>Ram still had no problem Suabru loving Emilia.

You fucking what?

>[Ram: Why are you saying this so suddenly? Did Barusu say something to you?]

>[Rem: No, it’s not that. It’s just, I thought I’d comb Nee-sama’s hair, and so……]

>[Ram: …...Emilia-sama did make her hair long and she does have pretty hair.]

>She easily sees through her intention of covering up her reasons, and then Rem lets out a wry smile.

>Ram responds to the hints of her smile by shaking her head in disappointment.

>[Ram: Rem, you’d of course look cute even with long hair, no doubt about it. It makes me want to pull Barusu and tear him up.]

>[Rem: Nee-sama……]

>>153358804
Yes, there is much possibility of something going wrong with that, this is Re Zero after all, but I still can't make a proper prediction related to the Witch Gene/Satella/Witch of Envy because there some details that I didn't got yet.
But it would be fun if that results in something like Subauron.

>>153358674
>[Emilia: I think that side of Subaru is reeeaaally nice.]
>[Subaru: …….Eh!? Did you just fall in love again!?]
>[Ram: Don’t talk like that with Rem sleeping in front of you, women’s harmful enemy.]
>[Subaru: Women’s harmful enemy, and not women’s enemy!?]
>Subaru switches from low and high pitches with his voice, and Ram snorts her nose as she said “Haa”.
>After that, she stretched her slender legs, and she recklessly tried to kick Subaru off of the dragon carriage’s steps.
>[Subaru: O, He, hey! What are you doing? I’m going to fall!]
>[Ram: Putting aside you falling, you should normally be outside, not inside. Mount the prideful earth dragon, and frantically guarantee our dragon carriage’s safety. Do it, quickly.]

No problems huh?

>>153358684

He can't, and the one time he tried really hard the other person died. I was worried about that too initially.

>>153358763
>Finally some shit to back it up.

Fuck offf. You should known all these already. It simply proves you aren't actually reading the story and just arguing for the sake. Why the hell would I bring it up if didn't happen? Who are to criticize others about what is said, what happened etc when you don't?

>But are we to ignore when Wilhelm is concerned about Subaru's relationship with Emilia being a dog?

He made an off-hand comment standing that he didn't low himself that far. That was it. Why you looking to make more out of what he said to one comment?

>Are we to ignore Gaaf's quote from "World Crumbling" questioning his attachment to Emilia?

No because it doesn't cntradict what he noticed and said earlier.

>Are we to ignore Otto's harsh talk to Subaru about not saying that Emilia isn't perfect

I already mentioned this. Not thinking she is perfect has nothing to do with him loving her. He was simply telling him accept she was perfect that is all.

> Are we to also ignore Petra's insights in arc 6?

You mean the ones your interpreting to fit you agenda like everything else.

Let's get the facts straight her. Subaru loves Emilia, most people know about it eitehr support or indifferent to it. If were not true they would have said what they did. we would not be having this conversation and Arc 3 and 4 wouldn't have happened. No matter what excuse you try to make a Rem only Ending isn't happening.

Deal. With. It.

Or drop the series if your that desperately against it.

>>153358883
How the flying fuck did you get that Ram had a problem SxE form that? She has bias towards her sister but that no way shows she would mad at him for who he picks.

Good lord, you blow up everything into some major development that even remotely Rem related. I can't deal with you.

>>153359257
When the fuck did I say Subaru doesn't love Emilia? What I did say Subaru's love for Emilia is shallow and has not made any progress, as well as his actions not reflecting what he says. Its not "deep" as initially and even now it has been shallow.

>>153358957
>Emilia: I think that side of Subaru is reeeaaally nice.
>Subaru: …….Eh!? Did you just fall in love again!?
>Ram: Don’t talk like that with Rem sleeping in front of you, women’s harmful enemy.

Wow this really makes me want to punch Subaru in the junk real hard. There's literally nothing good coming out of Subaru hooking up with Emilia.

>>153358957

>>153357657
>
That's just how you interpreting Ram's statement. She only one person and she is allowed to have her own opinion. Nobody else cares, and fact you need to bring this up shows how desperate you are validation.

Basically as I said, so what?

>>153359380
>blow up everything into some major development that even remotely Rem related

that's my problem with those discussions as well, I would not mind if people could keep that for themselves and not shoving it on other people's throats, since I know how people here are I try to keep myself low profile.

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>>153359257
>Subaru loves Emilia

No shit sherlock, that's pretty fucking obvious. But what people are arguing is that his actions don't reflect his words. He says one thing and does another in regards to Emilia. Which makes it unstable and unhealthy.

>>153358935
I guess, I think I'm convinced with the cult seeking out the witches love, her name being Witch of Envy, and her resemblance with Emilia. On top of that, the nurturing aspects of the Witch when caressing Subaru's heart during RbD/confessions and his love interest is Emilia. For me, it's an open shut case that the Witch will make Emilia a vessel. The question is what would be Subaru's role in the aftermath. Watch something corny happen, like him falling in love with the Witch and having Rem be the one to remind him of who he is.

All we can really say, it's a good set up.

>>153359257
And how can you be so sure that an Emilia ending is the only way to go?

>>153359411

>When the fuck did I say Subaru doesn't love Emilia?

Then stop arguing agiant. Stop making excuse against it. You either for it or you not.

>What I did say Subaru's love for Emilia is shallow and has not made any progress

Which you and some others are to prove he doesn't love her Because somehow Subaru not moving to your standards means that his love is shallow. That height of arrogance and you have no sense of awareness of it or you just a lying Remfag who wants their to sail so badly.

>as well as his actions not reflecting what he says. Its not "deep" as initially and even now it has been shallow.

I don't what the fuck you going on about some vague deepness. Subaru does what he does because he loves as Rem does for him period. These threads would be so much better some of the others weren't making shitty excuses like this where incapable (or unwilling) to grasp the obvious.

You aren't arguing in good faith, your being disingenuous so there no longer any point conversation. Keep believing that Tappei is going to some other route the obvious he's building. You will be the one shock when all your micro excuses fall to pieces.

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>>153359850
Fucking hell arguing with you is exasperating. But fine, have it your way, lets see where this story and your shitty excuses takes us as well.

>>153359257
>>153359730
You have no idea whether or not it's going to be a Rem or Emilia ending. The whole story seems like it will revolve around the climax where Emilia, the Witch, and Subaru will be involved. We don't know if Subaru will have a relationship with the Witch. We don't know if Emilia will be a vessel, if she is, how Subaru will react, We don't know whether Rem will wake up. What if Emilia sacrifices herself to rid herself of the Witch?

The strands of the story are too far apart to come to any conclusions. We just have to wait. What we know is that the author isn't going to waste Rem and the built up love. She's going to be at the climax, no matter what.

>>153359257
> No matter what excuse you try to make a Rem only Ending isn't happening.

But romantically speaking, Rem is going to win. No need to be delusional anon

>>153359581
Pretty much. It's pretty obvious that Tappei didn't intend to be making nearly half the stuff abut Rem into this thing as much as her fanbase on these threads do.

This also goes for Subaru and Emilia developments that they are desperately trying to downplay and when someone or something the story breaks their bubble you get all insecurity as you see her coming out.

I can only imagine the massive meltdown that will happen if Emilia ending happens as it is looking likely to happen here. Until then they going simply try assuage they fears with whatever they can I guess.

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>>153359850
>You to rove Emilia and Subaru's relationship hasn't progressed
>There is a literal line that says their relationship hasn't progressed

Fucking hell anon

>>153360061
If rem ever wakes up it's over for the SubaruXEmillia ship. Everyone knows it.

>>153360085
>Emillia ending looks like it will happen

It might happen if Rem never wakes up. I'l give you that.

>>153360126
Not over, it's gonna be a big plot point for the main story, mark my words.

I know it's difficult but I'd like a somewhat unbiased answer from someone who knows the series well.

Is there any possibility of Subaru being happy at the end of all of this?

If so, how?

>>153360209
Its definitely going to be a big part of the plot alright, when Emilia is no longer the "heroine" once arc 10 hits.

>>153360126
Yeah, that's what everyone should think. But, the author has the Witch, surely to fuck with the audience; like he did in episode 18. We still don't know how he got into this new world or why he has the RbD. Since, it's associated with the wish, I taste tomfoolery at the end.

>>153360209
When that happens he's going to have to choose only 1

>>153360272
inb4 another dual timeline like Haruhi did

>>153359730
I'm not saying it only way it can go, but just as likely as anything else because there build towards it too. Some Remfags don't even want acknowledge that because of bigger advantage Emilia has incomparison to her. That's why they're are betting everything on her waking and thing Tappei will give what they want instead of him doing what he wants.

But really through if Emilia ending or at least them becoming an offical couple once she sorts out her feelings isn't happening Subaru would have met and fallen for her in the first place. The could still end up together he could die later in the end anyway.

With all these waifuwars how come nobody pointed out that Subaru literally plagiarized Rem's speech and gave it to Emilia?

>>153360321
So you're basically saying Emilia has plot immunity when it comes to romance. Plus how is it likely? Are we assuming Subaru will drop Rem and chase Emilia once she wakes up? Are we also to assume that Rem and Subaru somehow separate from each other?

>>153360221
>Is there any possibility of Subaru being happy at the end of all of this?
Maybe through an actual death, feeling that he actually accomplished something in his life; in spite of spending it as a shut-in. You can also believe he'd be happy, after all the shit is over, to just be with someone and have a family; like back in episode 18. (Unless you think it was just him lying to himself, which can't be argued against/for.)