Youjo Senki

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>>153343309
I want to dick Tanya multiple times.

>>153343398
this

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>>153343398
You better take responsibility

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>>153343622
I'd give her the comfy, conflict free life she wants.
Or bring the Third Reich into power, whichever's fine with me

>>153343309
>Being X
This nickname makes me cringe so hard. Edgiest part of the story.

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>>153343865
You would unironically be tricked by the devil, praise it as God and go spread its evil across the world, wouldn't you?

So when do you think this will get the aot treatment and toss the characters into a school setting?

>>153343913
I wouldn't praise shit, I'd just call it god because that's what it called itself, it's still fine to tell it to fuck off but being like "hur hur, god doesn't exist, I'll just give you a random nickname" makes me think of edgy teenagers.

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>>153344094
God is a title, not a name. To call a being like this God, is an affront to His divine name and implies you accept it as the heavenly father, which is the last thing salaryman wants to do.

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>>153344007
Around summer

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Anyone mind TL'ing this?

Is it true next week is a recap episode?

>>153344302
>Do you have a visa?

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>>153344302
And this?

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bitches better Honor the Jingos

>>153344364
>No visa.

>>153343398
You know that's a guy right?

>>153343701
>she
anon that's a dude with a little girl's body.

>>153344435
its not gay if its a femine vagina

>>153344435
You know it has the body of a little girl and a vagina but no dick of any kind, right?

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>>153344435
>>153344445
It just makes it better.

>>153344435
It's a girl you retard.

>>153344504
Tanya don't doubt Being X's existence, she doubts that Being X is a God.

>>153344503
It's gay if you know it's a grown

>>153344435
>>153344445
So what if mentally it's a guy, physically she's a girl and that's all that matters.

>>153344504
take religious discussion elsewhere

>>153344504

But thats not whats happening at all.

Youjo has been great so far, shame about next week. Regardless, their episodes always seem so short because of how much I enjoy them.
>>153344445
This is an endless conversation, I think one the replies was that she's like a post op tranny; just without all the nasty surgeries

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>>153344503
Grown ass man

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>>153344504
>can't tell if bait or actual retard because /pol/ is unironically like this these days

>>153344187
Nah mate, you can still acknowledge something like god exists without having to praise, if this thing is doing as much as turning you into a little girl and sending you to another world of course it's something higher than you are no matter how much you want to deny it.

>>153344563
We dont have a board for religious discussion.

nazi loli thread must suffice

>>153343309
I imagine that'd go about this well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m997QFCEHHk

>>153344504
did you just use an anime as an argument against atheism?

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>>153344435
It's not gay if it's cute

>>153344546
In this case Tanya realizes X has some super reality warping powers given that they've been alive in another world for 9 years. So either he's been delusional and dying under a train for a while or x is as close to a god as possible

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>>153344625
And it's still not God, stupid. Doesn't matter what the fuck you call it, it's not God.

>>153344607
she hasnt even hit puberty yet!

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>>153344546
>>153344583

>>153344607
Ok, trolling it is.

>>153344594
That seems like a decent equivalent type of situation

>>153344715
It's a literal man trapped in a girl's body, you're trolling

>>153344672
Atheist don't believe in god because there's no proof, as soon as something like this happens there's proof, after that you're just being in denial and looking edgy when you ask the thing to write you a letter with facts supporting it is god.

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>>153344630
Nah. Fuck off m8.

>>153344773
Or maybe it's a little girl with a soul of an adult?

>>153344269
I wouldn't mind a SoL with senki characters actually.

>>153344773
Well, Tanya is the latest ressurection of the Salaryman spirit. The only difference between her, and all the other ressurections that have happened during all human life, is that she remembers her past life perfectly.

The only difference between salarymans this, and many last ressurections is simply some extra information left over that was not deleted as usual.

Spirits are agender. She has a femine vagina.

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>>153344343
Danke

>>153344867
>so, um... where's all the beer and classic rock you mentioned?

>>153344881
>>153344910
Stop replying to bait.

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>>153344414
Arigato

>>153344881
An adult male. He retained his memories of his life as a man. It's a man for sure, he's live probably 3 times the length of his current life as a man

>>153344952
>implying its not just regular healthy discussion, and you are just too fragile.

/a/ fragility is a terrible thing

>>153344856
In that scenario you don't know how things work outside your dimension aside from the fact that this thing exists. So it's entirely possible it isn't god.

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>>153344856
>there's proof
No. Literally nothing outside of cogito ergo sum is absolute. You're just retarded and have the juvenile mindsets of an undeveloped child, so you jump into absolute conclusions like a subhuman animal.

>>153344952
Stop thinking with your fucking cock.

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>>153344994
I dunno man she looks like a girl to me.

>>153344385
>those eyelashes

how can any of you stand to look at this

>>153345013
And in that scenario you'd recognize that the thing that talked to you before you got got and reborn was probably of a god like status.

Also what was he doing while he was a baby again, it's shown that he has his mind from his previous world so did he just sit around for 2-4 years shitting himself?

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>>153345309
Tanya is cute, CUTE!

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>All the Mexicans wanted were their jerbs

>>153345309
Never heard of artistic license before? It's done that way for effect and it works.

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>>153345309
The lashes and lips are cute. Shut up.

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>>153345349
>of a god like status.
Yeah, but still not God.
>did he just sit around for 2-4 years shitting himself?
He didn't have full consciousness as a baby.

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>>153345357
Such kissable lips

>>153345013
Unless it starts showing some sign of weakness, you also have no proof it isn't, while you have some it is.

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This is clearly AOTS

>>153345470
>some sign of weakness
So far we know that Tanya can temporarily get rid of X if she is aloud to move and if she can destroy his puppet if he's using one.

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>>153345470
So far it has shown no signs of actually being God either.

What will Being X do after Tanya is converted into a believer? Will that ever even happen? Is it preventing her from dying before then as well?

i think being x might really be the devil and tanya has yet to meet the real "god" who's just sitting back doing fuck knows what

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>>153345777
Our reality doesn't actually exist. Tanya was always Tanya and her memories of the modern world are just things implanted into his mind by Being X to fulfill his plans of global warfare through !Hitler.

>>153345777
he's clearly fapping

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>>153345415
>lo

>>153345470

That's beside the point. Do you instantly start worshipping anything that proves to be more powerfull than you ? As another poster mentioned, that thing could just as well be descartes' evil genius, aka a malicious being with power over you. Would you kneel and call him god just because he demonstrated his power ?

>>153345470
>>153345777

I would put beign x as a Seraphin or the devil instead of God, anons.

He even openly stated he does not have enough power to look over 7 billion persons and God is depicted as an omnipotent and omniscient being.

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>>153345872
>Plebs
>Order of the Holy Sepulchre
>>>/shower/

>>153345901
You don't need to workship them just because they are god, we're arguing if you should acknowledge a being that displays these type of powers as god or not.

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>>153345742
Virgin birth

>>153345995
Fuck Tanya is so cute.

>>153345994

But that's exactly what I'm talking about
Calling them God IS indirect worship. A god is something to be worshipped under every definition of the word. That goes way beyond simple aknowledgement

>>153345995
I know those mangas are inevitable, but still... Tanya is for headpats, and adoption

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Place your bets: No Youjo Shenki this week.
Yay or nay?

>>153345995
Sauce please

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>>153346161
Here it is.

>>153345995
>be miki shinichiro
>constantly VA bitter old men who get annoyed by kids
pretty funny desu

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>Myth and Roid

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>>153346401
FILTHY NINGENS

>>153346911
Mythical Roids.

>>153344187
This.
Salaryman is of the highest faith. He knows the true face of God and BX is a mere doppelganger.

>>153344445
>implying that doesn't make it better

>>153344594
>I think one the replies was that she's like a post op tranny
Except that she's actually biologically female.

>>153343309
>shooting god
fucking ningens I swear

>>153347157
>Sonsai Eksu
>god

So I don't get it
If the MC is brokenly overpowered to the point of never being in danger even when fighting entire squads

and if he doesn't give a shit about anyone and anything except power

where's the drama supposed to be coming from

>>153345901
>a malicious being with power over you
The only actual requirement for something to be a deity is to be superior to you on a fundamental level. Angra Mainyu is still a fucking deity, and quite the powerful one, despite being literally an embodiement of everything that is wrong with the world.

>>153347235
That he's being fucked over constantly by "God". He's literally playing the rage against the heavens game, there is literally no victory for him, there's no way out, he's going to get fucked over and the game is to see how long he can last.

>>153347239
God is not the same thing as a deity.

I didn't expect the planes, their introduction was pretty cool.

>>153346123
Who would even adopt tanya post-war?

>>153345015
Give him a break, he obviously meant evidence.

>>153345689
It seems to have full command over the multiverse Tanya lives in.

Considering all the religious myths in human history, X is on par with the most powerful gods, like the the Abrahamic one (or at least indistinguishable from them). It's also miles more potent than gods of most polytheistic religions. If some smuck who can make the crop grow more abundant gets to be called a god, a being who can demonstrably command reincarnation between worlds certainly deserves that title too.

Tanya is definitelly edgy as fuck, but that's mostly because the author ran with the atheist stereotype straight from one of those fundy pandering christian drama films.

But Tanya is a qt so it's ok.

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>>153343913
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Verses

Japanese businessman reincarnated as Muhammad when?

>>153347427
>It seems to have full command over the multiverse Tanya lives in.
Or it implanted a bunch of false memories into Tanya's mind to make it seem like she's jumped universe.

>>153347359
Yes, yes he is. God is supposed to be the 'only' deity. There's nothing especially special about him compared to other deities besides the Omni* bullshit and the wannabe ontological being description.
Also, "God" does not need to refer to the Judeo-Christian one; Sonzai X only claimed to be the Creator God, which you'll realize doesn't mention christianity.

>>153347409
Hitler.
No one would suspect that the failed soldier and failed artist turned into a despotic genocidal madman because of his cute and seemingly innocent adopted daughter.

>>153347477
That's perfectly possible but in that case he has full control over Tanya's "subjective reality" from soliphism.

>>153347486
"God" with a capital G is the name of the christian deity.
"god" means deity.

>>153347522
Which doesn't require all that much. Far less than stopping time and skipping through universes.

>>153347548
>is the name of the christian deity
No it isn't lmao, God has an actual name.

>>153347239

>The only actual requirement for something to be a deity is to be superior to you on a fundamental level

No, that's fucking stupid. Worship is an integral part of the definition of god.

Ahriman is an object of worship.

Where is my Youjo Senki Hearts of Iron 4 mod!?

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>>153347619
>Hearts of Iron 4
>4

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>>153347491
>won more medals during WW1 than most modern soldiers will ever earn
>failed soldier

>>153345836
deepest lore

>>153347590
We also know he has the ability to stop time, apparently temporarily revive the dead, and control the actions of people fromthe Dakian invasion.

>>153347611
Go back to your basic philosophy class
Find me literally anyone who can tell me Angra Mainyu isn't a deity despite having obstensibly no worshippers.
A divine being lies above humanity in type and not degree, this is the most basic of basics.

>>153347409
Me

>>153347679
>We also know he has the ability to stop time, apparently temporarily revive the dead
That is not proven. From what we know it could simply be manipulating Tanya's mind to think it had happened, which suits quite well with
>and control the actions of people fromthe Dakian invasion.

>>153347548
> Anon in charge of christianity
[ ] No way
[X] Ya Weh

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>>153347619
>>153347644
I'm neither of you two but.
>The worst HoI game is HoI 3
>Darkest Hour is the best HoI game
>The only flaw of DH is diplomacy/espionage being of zero consequence
>Conversely diplomacy and espionage are the only things HoI 3 does much, much better than DH
>HoI 4 is a really bad game right now, but will become better as DLC are added and may in time even surpass DH
>The ideal HoI game would have HoI 3's diplomacy/espoinage, HoI 4's graphics and everything else from DH
Rate my opinions

>>153347750
>HoI 4 is a really bad game right now, but will become better as DLC are added and may in time even surpass DH
Except that it's so ludicrously casualised with no requirements for any sort of strategy. Just push the entire fucking front forward and you're good.

>>153347592
>>153347727
Yeah I know he has a legit name and I expressed that poorly.
What I tried to say was that people use "God" when talking about the christian deity and "god" when talking about another deity or deities in general.

>>153347726
>manipulating Tanya's mind
Anon if this Being X can freely and remotely control the actions of people in real time then it's functionally nigh-omnipotent in all ways that matter, esp. if you use soliphism's personal reality gimmick.

>>153347750
>HoI IV's graphics
>muh plastic shit
0/10, MotE objectively had the best map of any Paradox game.

>>153347679

Ahriman is much more often referred to as a devil nowadays. Regardless this pointless semantics debate won't calm your autism on the subject so whatever. If you can't understand what's important in the distinction between considering something "a god" and "a powerfull thing that's fucking with me", you're very deep on the spectrum

>>153347651
>7
Hot damn

>>153347750
Back to basics and just fucking copy HoI2 with a graphics update.

They keep ruining a good game with shitty ideas.

>>153347820
>Anon if this Being X can freely and remotely control the actions of people in real time then it's functionally nigh-omnipotent in all ways that matter
No. It can just control the minds of humans. It may as well just be a technologically advanced alien.
>if you use soliphism's personal reality gimmick.
>if you use an arbitrary philosophical concept
That's not saying much.

>>153347750
Why is HoI 3 bad?

>>153347842
>as a devil
No anon, Angra Mainyu, the brother of Speta Mainyu and the son of Ahura Mazda, is a full blown deity. He's an EVIL deity but that doesn't mean he isn't a deity.

>If you can't understand what's important in the distinction between considering something "a god" and "a powerfull thing that's fucking with me", you're very deep on the spectrum
So you didn't read my post. Something higher on a fundamental level isn't just more powerful, that's what I said. "Something that differs in type, not simply degree". Neck yourself.

>>153347921
>technologically advanced alien
Seems like a stretch to me when he's obviously fucking presented as a magical supernatural being, when the evidence seems to show that it just has the power to do whatever.

>that's not saying much
No, it's saying quite a bit, considering all of theology is just a spin off of philosophy.

>>153347865
Most of those were for bravery and not giving a shit too, Hitler-kun was hardcore.

>>153347921
> Local anon tips hat so hard he cuts open a portal to alternate world

>>153348034
>bravery
He was a fucking messenger and got sent to the hospital after a gas attack
He is as bland as any other

>>153347805
To play the devil's advocate, you can also automize warfare in HoI 3. That doesn't excuse HoI 4, but it's nothing new under the sun. I know he's a meme youtube celebrity, but look at Quill18's "literally Hitler" Germany playthrough. He plays as Germany and conquers Poland and France on autopilot without taking a single strategic decision.

But yeah, most recent paradox games are casual as fuck. I fear for Victoria 3.

>>153347955
In my personal opinion it's just the incredibly needless micromanagement. On start-up you spend half an hour getting your Order of Battle in order, in times of peace you spend very three seconds clicking your production sliders so you don't waste production (or automize it but then you're guaranteed to waste production) and in times of war you need to constantly fiddle with your order of battle. I don't mind some micro here and there, but in HoI 3 it both becomes too much and adds nothing in terms of strategic depth. Compare DH, where you simply form a corps by putting divisions together and there's no order of battle. It has the exact same strategic debt as HoI III but with none of the needless fiddling.

In my eyes HoI III started the downward trend in more ways than one. Not only did they start the "conquest on autopilot" thing, but they also went so far into needless micromanagement that it caused a backlash, which probably resulted in HoI 4 being so casual.

>>153344504
Clarke's Third Law, motherfucker.

>>153348122
being a messenger was really hard

>>153348122
He was a messenger in the middle of fucking World War I, not your average postman.

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>>153348122
That was his final and worst injury during the war, yes.
I'd like to see you being the vital messenger during trench warfare, pussy.

>>153348152
>it's nothing new
The thing is, in HoI3 it was meant to be something you turned on when you had like four pockets left in Scotland and Ireland and couldn't be assed to clean them all up manually when you wanted to focus on North Africa. In HoI4, let alone being something to lessen useless micro, it's something you literally need to turn on if you don't want to miss out on a fucking FIFTY FUCKING PERCENT planning bonus.

>>153348157
Clarke's third law doesn't mean that ALL inexplicable shit is just sufficiently advanced technology. Especially in fantasy. Gandalf isn't using technology.

>>153347993
>Seems like a stretch to me when he's obviously fucking presented as a magical supernatural being, when the evidence seems to show that it just has the power to do whatever.
It is presented so because that is how it wishes to be seen.
>No, it's saying quite a bit, considering all of theology is just a spin off of philosophy
What I mean is that it doesn't mean much when you limit it to an arbitrary philosophical context, especially so in solipsism, since the only thing that is certain is that you are experiencing things. If nothing else exists except the mind experiencing things, then what difference does it have if Sonsai Eksu has seemingly absolute power in this experience? It, alongside everything else is a part of the flat plane being projected to the experiencing mind and is thus completely irrelevant.

>>153348122
He sent a message to the people of Germany, if you know what I mean.

Will they show how Being X is manipulating the world to fuck with Tanya?
Because so far he only gave her the OP artifact that only she can use and brainwashes her and has taunted her a lot, but I don't see what he has done to make the world go after Tanya.

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check this tanya

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I want to suck on these lips.

>>153348289
> I don't see what he has done to make the world go after Tanya.

That's the joke. Tanya, by simply being the highest threat target in the world, is making the world go after Tanya.

>>153348152
>On start-up you spend half an hour getting your Order of Battle in order, in times of peace you spend very three seconds clicking your production sliders so you don't waste production (or automize it but then you're guaranteed to waste production) and in times of war you need to constantly fiddle with your order of battle. I don't mind some micro here and there, but in HoI 3 it both becomes too much and adds nothing in terms of strategic depth. Compare DH, where you simply form a corps by putting divisions together and there's no order of battle. It has the exact same strategic debt as HoI III but with none of the needless fiddling.
I had no idea DH didn't have all that shit. I've only played 3 and the stuff you mentioned is definitely what I dislike about it most. Completely meaningless micro-management that just takes time and stops you from enjoying the game.

>>153348270
>It is presented so because that is how it wishes to be seen.
But that's simply not relevant. Tanya denies X not because of any logic, but simply because she's extremely pissed at basically being kidnapped and tossed into the shitter at every turn. She has no real reason to deny him other than to spite X because he's honestly a fucking prick.

>If nothing else exists except the mind experiencing things, then what difference does it have if Sonsai Eksu has seemingly absolute power in this experience?
If Sonzai X has 'seemingly absolute power' in this experience, and this experience actually is everything that exists, then Sonzai X is literally omnipotent. Whether or not it's also divine is something else in the case of soliphism, as there's quite the case to be argued that YOU are God under soliphism.

>>153348289
Dakia.

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>>153348313

>>153348152
>>153348393
The OOB is actually extremely important in HoI3. If you don't know how to use it correctly you WILL get fucked up by someone who does. I don't find it to be any needless micro, it does actually add strategic depth by allowing you cut off command headquarters and obliterating half the command chain.

>>153348402
>If Sonzai X has 'seemingly absolute power' in this experience, and this experience actually is everything that exists, then Sonzai X is literally omnipotent
Except that Being X is itself a part of the experience and exists within the experiencing mind. The experiencing mind is everything and being X is simply a tiny fragment of the Godhead. It has no power.

>>153347993

By your definition angels, demons but also all manner of spirits are deities. Fuck off.

>>153348393
Yeah. HoI 4 was the first HoI game I ever played and I while I'll admit I had loads of fun learning the game after a while it got boring and predictable. I'm leaving it be until DLC makes it better. I then went to HoI 3 and was quickly disinterested because of those problems. DH was a breath of fresh air by comparison. I still don't really master it, but unlike HoI 3 I feel like I'm actually having fun playing the game. It's (predictably) a bit more difficult than HoI 4 though.

I'd say it only has two big flaws:
1. Ignore diplomacy and espionage. They will do nothing for you and almost the entire game is railroaded by events.
2. The game is really dated. Some of the hotkeys you're familliar with don't exist (even such basic ones as pausing the game with spacebar) and the graphics are really old.
Still those flaws aren't enough to not make it the best HoI game to date. It also has a Great War scenario, which is fun (and if I'm not mistaken the mod Arms, Armistice and Revolutions [Can't find a working link anywhere though] actually makes it so that you can start in WW1 and play all the way through until the end of WW2).

And then there's Kaiserreich, the mod which explores a world in which Germany won WW1. I've never played it but a lot of people say that mod is excellent and THE big reason why DH is great.

>>153348289
i actually think that Being X is losing it guys
now the question it´s this the first time that happen?

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>>153348502
You can't have units under direct HQ control, right? Everything NEEDS to have the entire chain of command? I would be fine with the OOB and even like it if the fucking tree for it wasn't so shit. Instead of a tab on the side, why not have an actual tree, like pic related.

>>153348482
thank you

>>153348542
>Godhead
That's why I said you could debate whether or not simply being omnipotent means divinity under soliphism.

>>153348575
They literally are deities, you fucking imbecile. Valkyries were literally divine in nature and they were worth shit next to Christian angels, spirits are considered deities in Eastern myth (although not in western myth because they lacked power), and demons have been deities for the longest fucking tme. Evil deities are deities nonetheless. Fuck, shit like Beelzebub, Astaroth, and Adramelech literally USED TO BE deities.

>>153348607
No, you can literally put a division under direct Theatre HQ, and you probably should if they're supposed to be reserve forces.

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>>153348614

>>153348256
>Gandalf isn't using technology.
So says Gandalf.

>>153348716
>No, you can literally put a division under direct Theatre HQ, and you probably should if they're supposed to be reserve forces.
Just divisions, not corps?

>>153348607
>You can't have units under direct HQ control, right?
You can, but every level in the chain of command gives a specific bonus. You miss out a lot of these boni by just putting a division under the direct command of the HQ.

Also, the very idea that divisions exist as loose counters is kind of silly. You're going to move them around as a single corps most of the time, so why not just have corps as the smallest units on the map?

>>153348575
>the only deity in existence is the Christian God and you shall have no other Gods before Him

>>153347805
>Just push the entire fucking front forward
I always capitulated when I play as China.

>>153348764
You can put anything under anything as long as it's small enough.

>>153348767
So you can have a corps composed of three mechanized infantry divisions and two panzer ones.

>>153348762
When the setting itself canonically tells you it's magic, then it's magic. If I cast [Time Stop] in D&D then it's magic because I'm a Wizard.

>>153348812
>I always capitulated when I play as China.
>losing as China
>in HoI IV
Literally fucking how

>>153347921
>No. It can just control the minds of humans. It may as well just be a technologically advanced alien.

Sufficintly advanced/superior being is indistingushable from a god. No believer in any world (real or imagined) can be sure they are not just being fucked with by advanced aliens. Shit, there is no way to confirm that a god isn't lying about it's nature, yet people believe, no preconception a believer holds about their deity is supported by evidence.

Godhood is something that can't be proven, since any god-like being is able to fake their godliness, and there is absolutely no way to tell the difference.

>>153347813
>What I tried to say was that people use "God" when talking about the christian deity and "god" when talking about another deity or deities in general.

Even so, there are as many versions of christian god as there are believers in it, and most are equally plausible in light of the evidence (none). God is so ill-defined that X can easily fit at least one interpretation of it.

>>153348898
I know, but he apparently doesn't fit into the salaryman's autistic definition of who God is.

>>153348898
>Sufficintly advanced/superior being is indistingushable from a god
Everyone agrees that Sonzai X is functionally indistinguisable from God because it's pulling bullshit left and right, the question is whether or not he actually is God, which is a completely different question.

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>>153348942
>autistic
Rude.

>>153348746
>>153348370
Are these official?

>>153346144

Its more reasonable to bet if crunchyroll will deliver on time or not. I'd give 3/5 odds. Stakes are in lewd tanya pics.

How many episodes will this season be?

Tanya is currently using Being X power without thinking ahead....

Literally Being X could take the power of the core she using at any moment he like and puff

I wonder if she any idea about it or any way to counter that

>>153348974
MC-kun was pretty Special
I don't think he was technically autistic but he was getting dangerously close.

>>153349016
If something on that level wants to fuck you over there's nothing you can do about it.
Also, stop typing like a retard

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>>153348997
I know the first one is.

>>153349016
Wouldn't that be a good thing if she manages to survive the experience?
She could claim there is something wrong with her or that her usefulness in combat has decreased and convinve her superiors to send her to the rear.

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>>153348814
>it's magic because I'm a Wizard.
No, it's not because you're a wizard. It's actually not since it's all make believe.
Word of God saying it's magic doesn't preclude that it's still just achievable technomancy.
Any sufficiently advanced idea is distinguishable from mere magical incantation provided the former is presented as a mathematical proof, verifiable by sufficiently competent mathematicians.

>>153348997
One of them is
It's the cover of our delicious Youjo becoming a blossomed Shoujo

Occam's razor, kids.
If it walks like a duck, controls the cycle of life like a duck and freezes time like a duck, then it's a fucking duck.

>>153348959
Which is impossible to answer since God is so ill-defined that you can't even tell if [insert a interpretation of God] is God.

>>153349016
Doesn't everyone think Tanya is actually very religious since she says all that stuff while fighting. They all think her belief gives her power. Surely that's a good think for Being X so why would he stop that?

>>153349128
Wrong, it's a plot device.

>>153349016
>>153349178
She has to use the power to not die and to eventually reach coziness (maxing Comfy stat).
It's just too bad since the Computation Jewel makes her jazz all over god's cock when she uses it for anything advanced.

It's slowly 'corrupting' her.

It doesn't help that Tanya isn't exactly balanced from the get-go either. She says she doesn't like war but gets off like no other on bloodlust. Just as much as she doesn't realize exactly how much FUN she's having all the while.

>>153349083
would be weird if she suddenly "lose" her power

>>153349056
no Anon, if you be my engrish typing teacher that would help a lots

>>153349092
>It's actually not since it's all make believe.
I don't see your point.

>doesn't preclude that
It makes it irrelevant. If I made a setting and I had some archmage girl freeze time because magic motherfucker then it's magic, whether or not you could do the same with technology - hint, you can't, because if you try moving while time is stopped then the air particles should obliterate you by applying infinite impulse.

>Any sufficiently advanced idea is distinguishable from mere magical incantation provided the former is presented as a mathematical proof, verifiable by sufficiently competent mathematicians.
Yeah except anon the D&D spells violate multiple laws of physics and don't pretend to give a shit about this so it's literally magic.

>>153349128
>then it's a fucking duck
No, it's "a duck for all intents and purposes" which is not "the same as a duck". The problem is that in questions of divinity, the problem is not being "the same for all intents and purposes" because the question of interest is if it actually is a duck.

>>153349150
The definition of a divine being is actually exceptionally clear since it's completely made up. The problem is you'd need to obtain meta-knowledge about this very powerful being to make sure it's actually a divine being, and obviously because you're not a metadivine or ontological being, you can't obtain meta-knowledge.

>>153349092
Heck, in the setting itself we get the gods discussing how the technology is the key to 'godhood.' That's a literal progression scale.

>>153349318
So you're using a broken setting (D&D) to prove that workable applications of godhood isn't inherently a technological one. You can't use a broken clock to prove that a working one'S hands doesn't move.

>>153347955
Hearts of Iron 3 is objectively the best in the series. Sure it's a little railroady with less diplomatic options than DH but the combat is on a scale small enough that you are able to employ proper strategies rather than simply pushing fronts with stacks of dozens of divisons. To complement this the order of battle mechanic is the best single addition to the series that again further reduces the amount of mindless front pushing. In addition the game also has one of the best research systems out there with its practical and theoretical aspects. The supply mechanics with all of their faults are quite decent too.
3's problem though is that it strays too far from grand strategy and steps into the realm of being a psuedo wargame. If Paradox had taken 3, put in the diplomacy, sandboxiness and casualtie reports of 2 and improved the supply and air combat systems 4 would have been a masterpiece instead of the pile of shit that it is.

>>153349284
> She says she doesn't like war but gets off like no other on bloodlust. Just as much as she doesn't realize exactly how much FUN she's having all the while.

I can agree with this. She spends so much time complaining about the war and doing her best to avoid the frontlines but her actions speak otherwise. Some loli's just want to watch the world burn.

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>>153344672
>>153344625
>>153344187
>>153344094
>>153343913
>>153347457
This convo made me think of something.
What if Tanya is like Job? God is allowing the devil to tempt and test her in order to make her into an astute believer?
How likely is this?

>>153349540
>/a/ - Anime & Theology
That said, I doubt it. Job's problem wasn't that he wasn't pious enough. To a certain extent it was quite the opposite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZKuixGmiMw

That said, Nips understand Christianity as much as Westerners understand Shintoism so it's very well possible making allusions to Job was the author's intention.

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Why wasn't he a strong, ambitious business woman in his last life? Some one like pic related?

>>153349388
>broken setting
It doesn't matter if it's broken or not. Let's say I'm a divine being. Let's say I create a new planet out of nothing at all. You'd tell me this is achieveable with sufficiently advanced technology, but what if there was no input?
The problem is that you're defining techonolgy as "anything that can be mathematically defined". To begin with there's plenty of mathematically defined things that can't be accomplished (as far as we know) in physics, like negative time, or things that we [know] we can't do and never will do, like knowing the momentum and position of a particle at a single instant perfectly.
And even if you expand it to that point, a high class divine being is liable to simply say 'fuck the rules I'm divine, the world moves because I want it to'. Metadivines or ontological divine beings might simply opt to rewrite reality entirely, retcon it, or even cause it to lose the aspect of "being". None of these can be possible from a technological point of view.

>>153349432
DH is pretty good in my opinion, mainly it has the Kaiserreich.

>>153349540
Job is a jobber.

>>153349631
Who is that fluid druid? Google-kun isn't helping.

>>153349540
Considering Carlo Zen... not very likely. That wouldn't be straightforward enough. Not meaning this as an insult, but the author has been doing his best stuff by playing tropes and everything as straight as possible and bringing them to their ultimate conclusion.

It's very unlikely internally either. X's cannot convert Tanya 'on principles' since she reject his very quality of being divine through a show of power. She doesn't believe omnipotence is enough to prove godhood.

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>next week is a fucking recap.

>>153349631
Ruler was far too emotional, and she fucked up because she failed to take organizational culture into account. Tanya's past self was the literal opposite of that, being too unemotional and caught up in organizational culture to understand that others can be driven by emotion to act irrationally.

>>153349730
Ruler from Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku, from last season.

>>153349730
Rurah

>>153349744
Wait what

>>153349776
>>153349802
Many thanks.

>>153349730
Others have answered your question but there's a very useful new-ish tool around.
https://whatanime.ga/?auto&url=http%3A%2F%2Fi.4cdn.org%2Fa%2F1486863725309.jpg

>>153349234
And what is Plot?
Word of God.

>>153348746
>>153349078
Aren't these parodies of actual war photos? Like the other covers?

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>>153349670
>we can't do and never will do
Says you.
You're still linking X's existence and power as proof of divinity. We KNOW he's not omniscient. Also, not very particularly bright either.

I can create a fictional setting in which blue is really yellow. That's no proof to say ANOTHER fictional setting's red is in fact purple.

The best argument I've seen here so far relies on a Duck. Still undecided, though.

>yfw Tanya uses the speech of The Major from Hellsing Ultimate

>>153349982
>yfw Tanya uses the speech of Hartman from Full Metal Jacket

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>>153349982
>confirmed nazi
The shitstorm would be nice.

>>153345995
Google-kun isn't helpful. Source please.

>>153349946
>we KNOW he's not omniscient
So he's not the Christian God, doesn't mean he's not divine.

>I can create a fictional setting in which blue is really yellow. That's no proof to say ANOTHER fictional setting's red is in fact purple.
Don't understand what you're trying to communicate.

>says you
No, says the literal mathematical laws of physics you brought up.
Unless you're talking about the other shit I listed out? Because the metaphysical and the ontological lie above technology, by definition, since they refer to something that exists above normal reality. Metaphysical is to physical as a plane is to a line, while ontological is to physical as mathematics is to a number. No matter how long you make a line it will be infinitely smaller than a plane the size of a postage stamp, and won't grow AT ALL in comparison, while no matter how large you make a number, not only are you not escaping mathematics, you have to use mathematics to even express the number to begin with. Technology, which to be used must exist, cannot reach the metaphysical or ontological.

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>>153349628
>That said, I doubt it. Job's problem wasn't that he wasn't pious enough. To a certain extent it was quite the opposite.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZKuixGmiMw
I'm going to have to disagree with that vid, but I haven't finished watching it yet. For now at about five minutes in, I'm gonna have to point out the glaring flaw of the author looking at the OT through the lens of the NT. Jews had customs that made your right with God. Works were enough until Jesus came. You had to be born a Jew and follow the Law.
So I don't really think that interpretation works.
But you do bring up a good point. The author might be using Job as a somewhat similar comparison for Job, some kind of metaphor.
>>153349670
>Job is a jobber.
Hilarious.
>>153349734
I don't know much about Carlo, so I can't really pass judgment on that... But perhaps he wanted to try something a bit more this time.
>X's cannot convert Tanya 'on principles' since she reject his very quality of being divine through a show of power. She doesn't believe omnipotence is enough to prove godhood.
She believes begrudgingly. She has passed the haughty atheist stage and acknowledges Being X as powerful, despite still attempt to foil him. So she at least acknowledges he exists.
OR, she could have realized something we haven't. That Being X is indeed the devil, working for God or not.
He clearly isn't the Christian God. So maybe she supposes that a God who would engage in such shameless dick-waving isn't worth worshiping or acknowledging. Remember what she said about the guy who killed her? Something like, "A guy who doesn't work hard is the kind of guy who would push someone off a train platform."
Tanya despises lazy people. She says overwork is a sign of failed system, saying Being X is too lazy to fix his shit and just resorts to complaint.

I think there's a bit of an argument here.

>>153350374
>He clearly isn't the Christian God
But Christian God is an asshole. Sonzai X is also an asshole. How can you be so sure they aren't one and the same?

>>153350513
>Christian God is an asshole
Christian God isn't an asshole because He's right literally by definition - or rather, what He is goodness and righteousness. To be an asshole is to act not like God wants you to.
Or that's what the bible theologians say, trying to sound deeper than they actually are when God isn't even at the top of the metaphysical power chart.

>>153350588
> God can't be an asshole because He can simply Say So
Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.

How would you react if the ending was being x sitting at a desk writing on a stack of paper?

>>153350648
No it's not really God isn't an asshole because He says so so much as it's because He's God. God in the Christian tradition isn't the embodiment of goodness or anything, no God literally is the same thing as Good, and Good is the same as God.
It's some convoluted shit, as I said, and mainly stems from them wanting to sound deeper than it actually is.

Is the manga being released along with the show? I decided to read ahead, but now I'm finding out that there are only untranslated LN volumes on nyaa.

>>153350843
It's benig released but at this point we're already ahead.

Just saying, God is a petty little shit in this show.

>>153343309
Riddle me this /a/... Why does Being X care so much about Tanya? Is she some kind of experiment to see if he can convert the unfaithful and lead them to worship him? God really isn't too interested in those who don't seek him. We are all lost children according to the biblical outlook. My theory is Being X isn't god but might be some divine being.

>>153350513
>But Christian God is an asshole. Sonzai X is also an asshole. How can you be so sure they aren't one and the same?
The Christain God is not necessarily an asshole. The Jewish version pretty much is, but the NT Christain version is pretty ok in a lot of ways, from a non-religious, modern point of view.
Further I'm not saying they're not one and the same, I'm just looking at it from different views. You're being an edgy faggot and saying god is an asshole. Not really a winning argument or decent contribution.
I say that they're not the same for a few reasons. One, like I said this might not even be GOD all caps Jesus' daddy God. It could be the devil, it could be a demiurge. It could be a made-up God inb4 "duh all gods are made up" or some dumb shit, that's not conducive to the fucking argument for the story, because reincarnation and different human dimensions exist which are not mentioned in the bible but are in other religions.
So there is some room to question whether this is the Christian God or something else. Plus the points I mention about Tanya in my other post.

>>153350978
Either plot convenience or Being X was just pissed that day and snapped at Tanya, who straight out denied his existence while in suspended animation or whatever.

>>153350978
He is butthurt because the people of the salaryman's world don't worship Being X anymore so yeah, he is pretty much trying to prove that he can turn even an unfaithful edgy asshole into a believer.
Also, Being X is throwing a divine fit because the salaryman called him a fake fag.

>>153350978
i'd say he goes the extra mile because Tanya is being petulant while most people have faith the moment he stops time to show off. Other than that, hell having power sure as hell doesn't make you impartial and I know i'd abuse that kind of liberty.

Doesn't the manga (and probably the LN too) show Being X meeting with other deities and complaining about people not giving them enough worship?
Isn't the fact that those deities exist proof enough that Being X isn't God?

>>153347325
Except so far in the MC has been in virtually no danger, there's no drama, the art design is shit and the characters are one dimensional pieces of shit. So what's the appeal of this show again?

>>153351153
>if one god meets with other gods he's not god
???

>>153351153
Even without that he's clearly a god rather than then God. He'd fit in among the Olympians.

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Alright, to interrupt the whole debate about whether or not Sonzai Ekkusu is the Christian God, Tanya used to be a Japanese salaryman, right? Which would probably make him a Shinto in the sense that he probably practiced the rituals out of tradition without really believing in the beliefs behind those traditions (given that Eastern religions tend to value orthopraxy over orthodoxy), right? So to him, "Kami" already wouldn't mean a single creator deity but some kind of vague life force, right? Because from a Japanese perspective it's really weird for Kami to automatically refer to a sole creator deity without it being explicitly clear that it's the translation of something Western, right? Or do I just not understand how Shintoism works?

>>153351194
He's not God because You Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me.

>>153351194
Isn't God supposed to be the one and only deity while all the other "gods" are demons or shit?
If he is meeting with other being he acknowledges as deities then he might be a god but he isn't THE God.

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>>153343309
>It's a there's a loli as a main character in the anime episode again.

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>you will never experience enlightenment like this
Why live

>>153350978
It is probably doing the same thing to countless other reincarnated salarymen in countless other isekai worlds all at the same time. This is probably just like a hobby.

It's not like the abrahamic God didn't do this kind of shit sll the time in the Bible. Poor Tanya is just getting Job'd

>>153351246
> He's not MY God
Fixed. Christian faith is very clear that should a faithful come across some other God, they are to be outright rejected.

So Tanya is actually an amazing Christian.

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>>153351267
Don't you diss our Commanding Officer

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>>153351289
Doujin material

>>153351331
>Christian faith is very clear that should a faithful come across some other God, they are to be outright rejected.
No, it's not that they are to be outrght rejected but that they literally aren't a god at all but a shitty faker. God is the only God.

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>>153351267
Show some respect for our loli Hitler.

>>153351400
> they literally aren't a god at all but a shitty faker
Uh. That's what "outright rejected" means.

>>153351233
>kind of vague life force
Shintoism has deities. They're pretty tribal, and often regional and plentiful, but they're there. There's also the fact that Shinto gods range from minor to massive. There are minor local gods who control luck and massive more powerful ones who control, say, the weather.
Also, if I recall correctly, Amaterasu is the sort of main God of Shinto, kind of like Zeus or Ra. She controls the sun or something and created mankind.
So yeah, not exactly right.

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>>153351194
Dude, I don't know what's your first language but it's definitely not western.
Capital letters indicate a proper noun, as in a fucking name.
It's heavily implied he's talking about THE biblical God(protip: there's only one), otherwise he wouldn't have written it with uppercase G.

>>153351452
Then the fact that X is addressing these other gods as gods implies he is not God.

>>153351261
>Isn't God supposed to be the one and only deity while all the other "gods" are demons or shit?
Monolatrism is the idea that there may or may not be multiple gods, but only one is truly deserving of worship. Christianity/Judaism could debatably be better described as monolatrist rather than monotheist, meaning that if Zeus showed up on earth and started throwing around lightning and shit, a good Jew's reaction would be "meh".

>>153351153
>meet with other deities

What the fuck, really?

is it true that tanya dies in vol 6

>>153351514
What?
Christian faith is pretty adamant that there is only ONE God and there are no others. It's just worded in an absolute way to be more compelling.

Should a slovenly loli Christian come across other creatures laying claim to being God, they are to shun them and turn them away. Even if they freeze time and rewrite life lines like Being X.

>>153351464
Amaterasu O-Mikami is one of the main gods but she's not the only main god
She didn't create mankind, that was Izanagi iirc, but she's the ancestor of the Imperial Family.
She's also a massive tsundere and a huge brat.

>>153351528
Christianity is monotheistic. The other so-called gods are simply not gods, they're demons. Thus Ba'al-Melquart-Heracles becomes Beelzebub, Ishtar becomes Astaroth, and so on.

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>>153350374
>I think there's a bit of an argument here.
Agree with that section thereupon.
I do say she acknowledge his omnipotence (or quasi-omnipotence).

Even at the point where she accept his god-LIKE existence, she refuses to put any faith in his qualities. That much half by principles and because Tanya is the sort of people who hold grudges across lifetimes.

You know, this thread's pretty nice.

>>153351612
What the literal fuck are you trying to tell me? My argument is that X cannot fucking be God in the Judeo-Christian sense because he acknowledges that other divine beings exist.

>>153351077
>called him a fake fag.
Imagine the shitstorm if salaryman called X a newfag

Reminder that Job was a successful and faithful Yahweh worshiper, unlike Salaryman who was an atheist pragmatist, Job externalized his suffering and analyzed his predicament rationally BUT never cursed God and was rewarded with more stuff than he had before, also Job had friends who helped him to guide him as for why "God was punishing him"

>>153351661
> X acknowledges other gods
Post evidence

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>>153351536
This is the manga's version of the meeting. I don't know how it happened in the LN.

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>>153351701
Buddha is one smug motherfucker.

>>153351701
>God is not a little girl
Why did you lie to me /a/?

>>153351670
Reminder that there is literally no proof whatsoever that the Bible is not some sort of huge Job-like test.

>>153351690
See >>153351701, the way he speaks makes it extremely clear he sees them as equals.

>>153351614
>Amaterasu O-Mikami is one of the main gods but she's not the only main god
>She didn't create mankind, that was Izanagi iirc, but she's the ancestor of the Imperial Family.
Well, there you go. Thanks for the correction. I only have a vague grasp on Shintoism.
>She's also a massive tsundere and a huge brat.
I Can't Believe My Kami-Sama is This Cute!

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>>153351754
protip: the guy with a beard is Being X.

>>153351701
>>153351754
So does the artist nut up and draw Muhammad?

Being X can NOT be God. By being an active, discreet agent in the world, it automatically can't be God.

God, in order to BE God, must necessarily not be anything less than the totality of all things - indeed, God can not be a "thing", for if God were then it would not be God but rather merely some lesser emanation.

Ya'll niggas need to read some Maimonides.

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>>153351652
>You know, this thread's pretty nice.
Youjo Senki threads usually are, even with the shitposters. All the philosophizing is a just an extra bonus to Tanya's cute antics.

>>153351856
Muhammad was a prophet, not a god, and the Islamic God is (according to them) the same as the Judeo-Christian one.

>>153351701
>>153351754
>>153351793
And that's why I prefer anime version over manga.

>>153351761
To be fair, the manga is pretty liberal when it comes to the character's appearances.
I mean, look at the manga version of any named character and only Tanya looks similar to her anime version, and that's because the LN has clear illustrations of her.

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Why do I find her so cute when she's being cruel?

>>153351856
its a bigger insult to ignore islam entirely.

>>153351754
It's weird here, as it reads like Buddha (or whoever) is siding with non-interventionism. Or at least presenting the act of intervening as unneeded.
The last point where it is said that humans are pursuing 'truth' (the essence of godhood thought God's creations) as something not influential to the gods themselves. I would think this research would be 'pious' enough to give them their fix.

>>153351856
You can't draw a formless shadow god.

>>153351899
Oh

>>153351754
That's probably not the buddha, the art when he blesses the thing is more hindu-like.

>>153351786
She basically throws a huge fit at one point because Tsukuyomi-otouto bullied her friend and shuts herself in a cave for something like 60 years, so Tsukuyomi basically makes a huge din outside, throws a party, and screams WE'RE HAVING CHEESECAKE HMM I WONDER WHERE ONEECHAN IS I GUESS IF SHE'S NOT HERE I'LL JUST HAVE HER SHARE OH WELL IT WAS HER FAVORITE TOO
So then she comes out and basically they have an intervention or something

>>153351954
Yeah I mixed Buddha with whpever that hindu dude with a weird haricut is.

>>153349946
>We KNOW he's not omniscient.
No, WE don't.

>>153351954
That's super fucking cute. I giggled.
Why is this not an anime already?
Is it..?

>>153352056
If he was omniscient then he wouldn't have trouble with people losing their faith because he would already know how to fix that. Or at least he would know if fucking with Tanya has any point or not.

>>153352065
There's [apparently] some form of WN about it, not translated though.
>異世界召喚が多すぎて女神様がぶちギレました【連載版】
>http://ncode.syosetu.com/n1386cl
inb4 >異世界 yes I know

Also I guess it's so well known that there's no reason to make an anime about it? Like if it's not a gag anime or doesn't have some sort of gimmick then I don't really see the point of making an anime about it because everyone knows it already, and like most pagan traditions it's really more of a collection of loosely related stories. Like in manga form it'd be something like a 4koma.

>>153351766
If you want to put it like that, then life is a immense Job-like test, so Job is a representation of reality itself, you can compare the former prosperity as the world before eating the fruit of knowledge, the suffering is humanity being separated from God and the future bigger prosperity is God after the rapture, apocalypses and earth cleanse
But as many theologists say, the Bible should not be taken literally but more of a series of fables and examples for reference of God's power and His relation with humanity

>>153352144
Omniscience and free will are diametrically opposed concepts. One can not exist with the other.

>>153351701
>The coexistence of developing civilisation [sic] and faith is extremely difficult

wat?

>>153352201
>But as many theologists say, the Bible should not be taken literally but more of a series of fables and examples for reference of God's power and His relation with humanity
It makes a lot more sense to throw God out the window entirely and just read it as an allegorical text.
Genesis is actually incredible depending on how you interpret it, if you thinks the entire kicked out of paradise story amounts to the process of growing up.
Through the innocent but more importantly completely ignorant eyes of a child the world looks amazing.
Then you grow up.

>>153352144
You see, the author has taken the greek POV of deity, gods are just overpowered humanoids who are not omnipotent and omniscient but certainly they can watch over us easily

>>153349540

God is pretty merciful to this non-believer to give him a second chance in life instead of burning in hell for eternally. I think eventually he will come around and believe in God.

>>153352277
>if you thinks the entire kicked out of paradise story amounts to the process of growing up.
>fucking NEETS, reeee, get out of my house
Pretty much. Though, the text is a bit buffy to say only this much.

>>153352258
When you life is shit and there is no way out of it, you can't do anything but pray at God hoping He will improve things.
When technology and shit can solve 99% of your problems then you don't need to pray to God that much.
Also, people becoming more educated tends to lead to more of them questioning God and His teachings.
I think the author believes that people only give two shits about God when they need something from Him and thus a world where you only need to ask God's help for shit like a loved one having cancer means that there are less reasons to worship Him.

>>153351857

[Generic] God by definition is nothing more than The Creator. There's nothing stopping God from self inserting. Programmers self insert all the damn time into their creations when they pick up a game controller.

>>153352258
The idea that as a society becomes more advanced, religion becomes less neccessary.

>>153352277
>It makes a lot more sense to throw God out the window entirely and just read it as an allegorical text.
The thing is that for the longest time how certain Biblical books were read was dependent on the genre of the individual books (to name an example, St Augustine believed in Biblical inerrancy but at the same time did not believe in a literal six day creation). I guess you could say they took the Bible literally but not (exclusively) grammatically. Grammaticism as the only possible way to read every single Biblical book is a trend that arose after the Reformation in mostly Protestant circles (which reaches its full retard zenith under the KJV-only folk).

I don't get it. Do gods actually need faith like it's some kind of food, or are they just fixing for that quick high of (you)'s?

>>153351366
>(incomplete, early release of the first half)
Okay

>>153352512
What's the point of creating humans if they'll spit on you?

>>153352512
It's not clear.
So far it seems they just need those (You)s to satisfy their ego but I wouldn't be surpised if later on it's revealed that gods actually need prayer or otherwise they would dissapear. Tanya, knowing this, would seek to erradicate everyone who is a believer in order to kill Being X, thus turning into loli Hitler.

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>>153352620
>gods die if they don't get (you)'s
Meme magic is real.

>this thread
Are you guys want to make a new faith or something?

>>153352677
OH FUCK KEK! MAKE ME THE LITTLE GIRL!

>>153352677
Welp, Kek does it again.

>>153352693
Yes.
I want Tanya to be my God Empress.

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>>153352677
Oh shit.

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>>153352677
Blessed Kek made manifest yet again.

Sonzai X BTFO

>>153352693
No, I just want anons to convert to Christianity

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>>153352677

>>153352677
I will forever have faith in meme magic

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>>153352819
I hate mudslimes but I really think Islam is the better faith.

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>>153352204
No they aren't. Just because you know what your friend will order for dinner because you know him well enough to know that he always orders a large pizza after winning a boxing match doesn't mean he lacks the free will to not order that pizza.
What you can actually say is that because he's omniscient, then in a deterministic world everything that happens happened because when he created the world he made it so - including your free will aka your personality.

>>153352258
Faith fundamentally stems from the fact that you want control over something you have no control over, it stems from lack, it stems from powerlessness, it stems from fear, it stems from confusion, it stems from ignorance, and it stems from chaos.
The more you gain power, control, understanding, and plenty, the less you actually need religion and thus the actual faith aspect of it naturally fades away because there's just no social reason for its continued existence. Culture and values can be transmitted in other ways, religion as an actual 'faith' instead of a sort of ready-made spiritualism or cultural entity loses necessity and loses coherency.

>>153351857
>trying to pull the fucking ontology card on me
God does something in the Bible, instead of it simply being so. He isn't ontological, he's Unmoved Mover tier but he's no higher.
Also, the entire point of the Holy Trinity even keeping to Church canon is to be able to show lesser emanations while still being the totality of God. Fides, Patri, and Spiriti Sancti are ALL God in totality, but you could literally talk to Fides.

>>153352512
It seems from the manga meeting more like humans are basically damning themselves by lacking faith because they can't reach "nirvana" without a sufficient amount of faith, so the gods are extremely frustrated and trying to figure out a way to make them regain faith and get back on track.

>>153352677
I'd call you cancer but this was actually a cool snipe.

>>153352454
>[Generic] God by definition is nothing more than The Creator.

By whose definition? The most theologically robust definition of God that I've encountered, the Basilidean Heresy, makes a pretty strong argument that the "creator" (as if there's any reason to even think there is such an entity) would have to be far, far removed from the perfection and unity that God would necessarily comprise if God is to be the supreme being and prima causa.

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>someone spiked the CO's coffee
What do?

>>153352677
Deus vult

>>153352893
Find Visha asap.

>>153352864
>I'd call you cancer but this was actually a cool snipe
Non believer!

>>153352871
Christianity trips over itself ten times over trying to make everything work because it's fundamentally massive wankery.

>prima causa
Prima Causa is the worst fucking argument I've ever heard, it shows an inherent lack of understanding of the concept called infinity despite obstensibly being proof for an infinite being.

>>153352893
Take good care of her so she doesn't kill me when she becomes fuhrer.

>>153352677
SONZAI KEKSSU

>>153352860
To each their own, I fulfilled God's command of spreading His Word, it's not like I'll try to behead people who don't share the same beliefs I have

>>153352677
He's here.

>>153352893
Make her a nice bowl of eggs for when she wakes up

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>>153352677
BELIEVE

>>153352893
Pick her up, princess carry her to her quarters and tuck her into bed and keep watch on her until she wakes up.

>>153344435
It's a girl.

>hurr it's mentally a man
It's biologically a girl. Trannies and tranny apologists, back to the oven.

>>153352864
>God does something in the Bible, instead of it simply being so. He isn't ontological, he's Unmoved Mover tier but he's no higher.

The Bible is a collection of human stories. I don't think there's any coherent grounds for supposing that it has anything to do with any direct expression of God, except in as much as all things express Him.

>Also, the entire point of the Holy Trinity even keeping to Church canon is to be able to show lesser emanations while still being the totality of God. Fides, Patri, and Spiriti Sancti are ALL God in totality, but you could literally talk to Fides.

You can talk to whatever false idol you wish, but I doubt they'll talk back.

>>153353003
Please, its only the extremists. Plus it's not like Christians are innocent centuries ago.

>>153352144
>If he was omniscient then he wouldn't have trouble with people losing their faith because he would already know how to fix that.
He's just fucking around, you dumb fuck.

>>153350978
well, biblical god is pretty much just as petty, if not more so.

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Has someone already transcribed this to readable English? Seems like it might hint at the next episode after the re-cap.

>>153352860
>>153353003
Section other than the holy book "Qur-an" were missing because the record and the officer died due assassination of power struggle between Abu and Ali faction after Muhammad died, so the rules going on (Hadist) actually from "people said" 4th party information made in 7/8th centuries.

>>153352415
>The only reason to have faith in God is to get free shit

That's like saying the only reason to have friends is to use them.

>>153352967
>Christianity trips over itself ten times over trying to make everything work because it's fundamentally massive wankery.

No doubt.

>Prima Causa is the worst fucking argument I've ever heard, it shows an inherent lack of understanding of the concept called infinity despite obstensibly being proof for an infinite being.

It's not an argument, it's a supposition about a property of God (although it is obviously silly to make any claims about the properties of God)

>>153353149
>The Bible is a collection of human stories.
It's the word of God.

>>153351665
>cue that screenshot of someone calling moot a newfag
sometimes i really wish i saved things

>>153353260
The author seems to believe that that's the case.

>>153353203
No, but Christianity evolved since then, Islam didn't at least not as much as the rest of the civilized parts of the world
Anyway Christianity derived most of its beliefs from the Judaism and Islam did from both of the mentioned before, so the difference is the kind of people who spread those religions

>>153353280
I might have been at first, but the current Bible is what's left after those in power added, erased or changed whatever they wanted about it.

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Now the real question, will this anime encourage japanese otakus to become christians?

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>>153353260
Fundamentally that's how all human relationships work, even if you 'use' your friends for companionship, which I say is the exact way most people use them.

>You can talk to whatever false idol you wish, but I doubt they'll talk back.
Are you telling me that Jesus Christ is not supposed to be the Lord God? Are you an Arian? I mean that works fine.

>The Bible is a collection of human stories. I don't think there's any coherent grounds for supposing that it has anything to do with any direct expression of God, except in as much as all things express Him.
God created the World, that's literally enough for me to tell you definitvely that He is not ontological in nature. That is, he cannot be ay higher than Unmoved Mover.

>>153353494
Don't know about japs becoming christians but it sure seems like this show is shoving nationalism down german weebs' throats.

>>153352864
>Governance fundamentally stems from the fact that you want control over something you have no control over, it stems from lack, it stems from powerlessness, it stems from fear, it stems from confusion, it stems from ignorance, and it stems from chaos.
>The more you gain power, control, understanding, and plenty, the less you actually need government and thus the actual governance aspect of it naturally fades away because there's just no social reason for its continued existence. Culture and values can be transmitted in other ways, government as an actual 'governance' instead of a sort of ready-made law or cultural entity loses necessity and loses coherency.

>>153352677
>Still can't turn me into bishoujo
fake