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Reminder everything Akainu has done is justified.
The only people who think he is the "bad" guys are underage Luffyfags
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Also he didn't take no shit from nobody, ever.
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Could THE Kaido beat THE Fixer?
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>>153342037
fuck off Sakazuki
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I love SanjixNami lots and lots.
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SaNami in real life.
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Will Zoro be stronger than Luffy after Wano?
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>>153342037
Didn't he ruthlessly command the destruction of a evac boat because it 'might' have scholars on it?
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>>153342352
>Sakazuki doesn't destroy the evac boat
>Turns out there really were scholars on it
>They set up shop on another island
>WG finds out, orders yet another Buster Call
>Millions more dead

Sakazuki did the right thing.
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Could he take on a Yonkou?
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>>153342433
Killing civilians is never the right thing senpai
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>>153342483
He certainly had the balls to.
Didn't go so well for him against WB though.

Then again, he scared BB off.
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Which OP characters do you think are most likely to be jewish?
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>>153342543
Is Kaidou stronger than Whitebeard?
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>>153342433
Here's the problem
Lets debate that there were scholars
How do they suddenly know they exist?
How do they know where the scholars set up shop?
UNLESS
They already have a reliable way of tracking, locating and identifying the scholars and are using them as a scapegoat to commit mass genocide
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>>153342433
>killing people because they might find out the world government is evil
>the right thing
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>>153342037
Yup. I can't blame this guy for murdering Ace. Ace was bad guy (You know, a pirates) and Akainu was just doing his job.
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>>153342483
Someone here claimed that Oda said he'd find the one piece in a year as a pirate..
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>>153342583
Usopp and Wapol.
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>>153342583
Nami
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>>153342632
Well, has anyone found a source for that claim?
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>>153342583
Literally all the Celestial Dragons

>Come from a place they call "The Holy Land" >Think they're a people chosen by the heavens
>Control the world
>Whine a lot

Even Doflamingo is a mega jew
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>>153342598
>>153342610
>>153342490

The WG already found the scholars on Ohara, so it's not so unbelievable they could eventually find them on another island if they continue investigating the Void Century.

And the matter of the WG being evil is exactly why what Sakazuki did was the right thing. He killed the evac boat, sure, but he stopped the possibility of the same thing happening to another island.
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>>153342610
I don't think Akainu is a fan of the WG either, he was pissed off at the Elders Stars last time we saw him. But the scholars spreading the way to read the Poneglyphs could've lead to the Ancients Weapons being found and used to destroy the world.

In Akainu's mind it's a perfectly justified decision, tho I'm sure the government doesn't want people to find out about the Lost Century because it fears losing power.
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Is there a better Mink?
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>>153342851
Your mother's moot.
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Why does nobody try to assassinate all of the celestial dragons at once?

There are times when they gather together, right?

So somebody that has nothing left to lose can just kill them all, and then himself.
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>>153342594
Probably not prime WB but I'd give him the edge now.
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>>153342902
>Why does nobody try to assassinate all of the celestial dragons at once?
Luffy will 100% raid the shit out of mariejois and wreck all the dragons buttholes at some point.
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>>153342037
Akainu's devil is strong but it seems like it has a huge fucking weakness.

Water

Just like croc's, I bet Akainu hides indoors all day on rainy days on the off chance he's forced into a fight in the rain and turns into a craggy mess.

Dude's fuckin' beat with a garden hose.
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Remembr the time he tried to murder Coby because Coby was calling for an end to the war on the grounds that Ace had successfully been executed and the mission was completed.

Not only was Akainu completey ready to murder an innocent Marine, he was also willing to let the entire Navy get slaughtered alongside the Whitebeard Pirates. If the war hadn't been stopped by Shanks there and then the Whitebeard pirates and the Marines would have been left virtually powerless and ripe to be picked off by Kaidou, Dragon or even blackbeard. Akainu is a fucking idiot.
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>>153342594
What word do you not understand in "World's strongest creature"?
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>>153342902
Didn't Fisher Tiger himself attack Mariejois? I think it's a lot harder than you make it sound.
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>>153342969
>Akainu
>Weak against water
>Can literally burn fire
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>>153342902
You'd have to want to kill them, and also be willing and capable to fight an admiral.
Things is, I'm pretty sure not many people care to kill them. Kaidou just wants to kill himself, Big Mom wants to eat sugary stuff, Luffy just wants meat and adventure, BB wants fruits and shit. There's just no point unless the CD are preventing them from getting what they want, like what happened in Sabaody. The celestial dragons might as well be kings of a fish tank, I don't they're on any Yonkou's radar.
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>>153342037
pirates deserve to be melted
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>>153342975
The Whitebeard Pirates were super loyal to Whitebeard, and might've devoted themselves to fucking up the Marines for killing him. And Marco was said to be the best candidate for the open position of Yonko.

Akainu was taking out a very possible threat, and Coby was yelling at everyone and pussying out when he's supposed to do his damn job and follow orders.

If anything Sengoku should be called out for only stepping in to hit the Blackbeard pirates and nothing else.
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>>153343045
whitebeard was the strongest man in the world and was the only pirate on par with gol d. roger
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>>153342902
CP0 are probably protecting them
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>>153342851
Nekomamushi, objectively the best mink.
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>>153342902
I'm willing to bet two things
A) Not all of the Tenryuubito are as retarded or weak as the ones we saw wearing fish bowls and
B) The Gorousei are several dozen times stronger than the Yonkou or the Admirals.

One of those faggots probably has the fucking omnipotence omnipotence fruit.
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>>153343297
This, Nekomamushi for nakama, Carrot a shit
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>>153343084
Water is just too big a weakness, though.
Magma hardens into rock when it comes in contact with water.

He can likely re-heat himself, but becoming hardened and likely unable to move is still a huge handicap if someone pulls it off.
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>>153342902
They'd probably be guarded by super high powered plot devices like a former admiral or 700 pacifistas
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>>153343225
Everybody was running on empty by the time Ace died. Even if he did manage to somehow kill Marco and the rest of the Whitebeard pirates by the time they finished they would have had nothing left. Or are you actually stupid enough to think they had the forces to take on Shanks and then Kaidou consecutively. Akainu was a poor admiral during that war, he was letting his emotions dictate his commands and nearly got himself and everybody else killed because of it.
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>>153342902
>Why does nobody try to assassinate all of the celestial dragons at once?
Dis Nigga.
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>>153343447
What is his power, besides having no style and/ or grace?
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>>153335443
I can into that, the guy being like "Woah everyone with at least a bit of power is either a dick, work for a dick or dead....fuck this let's beat the shit out of them all".
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Is One Piece's Earth flat or something? Seriously, anything beyond the grand line & new world is their own starting point.
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>>153343447
What are the chances that this guy is related to the monkey D family? Maybe he's Garp's dad
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>>153343495
I like to think he has a Gorilla zoan but that's pure headcannon.

We know nothing of him.
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>>153343527
How strong is Garp?
Could Garp take on whitebeard if he actually tried to fight?
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>>153343301
Source: your head headcanon
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>>153335626
Well maybe he realise the Marine were blindly following the order of Stupid Evil/esclavagist/Dark Eldar dickhead that are so fucking delusional they wear a special suit when walking outside of their litteral safe space.

"And the Marine let those guy take important decision/control the world/do anything/live ?

Woah, fuck then, I quit."
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>>153343341
>>153342969
Do you forget that he's win against Kuzan the ice master in the island full of storm?
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>>153343434
When Shanks showed up, Akainu gave up on the war. He wasn't going to fight Shanks at all. And Kaido was only after Whitebeard before Shanks intercepted him.

And at least Akainu was giving orders, Sengoku and the other admirals were just jerking off.
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>>153342902
Why do nobody try to assassinate world leaders at once?

There are times when they gather, right?

So somebody that has nothing left to lose can just kill them all, and then himself
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>>153343434
Let's not pretend like fodder in need of medical help really matter that much. As long as Garp and Sengoku could handle Blackbeard things were going alright.
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>Monkey D Kong
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbry10UQcD4

>bobbinfags
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>>153342632
>>153342723

That wasn't the quote. He said he could end the One Piece series in a year, not find the actual thing in a year. Nobody could find it in just one year.
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>>153343447
This guy must be one of Oda's biggest plans. We only see him in one scene, barely speaks, we know he's the real deal based on his position, and he's related to the nobles.

I really hope we see very little of him until the last arcs.
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>>153343581
That was really more of a prediction anon. I wasn't making any claims. That is usually what is implied by the word bet.
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>>153343611
He stopped because Sengoku told him to stop retard, because unlike Akainu Sengoku isn't completely retarded and realised any more bloodshed would be detrimental
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>>153342144
Le Kaido*
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>>153343569
Garp could've beaten Whitebeard imo. They were both pirate king level at one time but Garp wasn't sick and already dying.
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>>153343753
>Not completely retarded
>Only stepped in to fight Blackbeard

Whatever you say famalam.
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>>153343753
>Sengoku
>not retarded
Guy finally understood the WG doesn't give a shit about the citizens safety after like 40 years in the Marines.

He's the dumbest.
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>>153343868
except garp couldn't even beat blackbeard/burgess with sengokus help
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>>153343801
Tamago and Pekoms are still the most interesting characters in Mama's crew. I wish Pekoms had a bigger role in the arc.
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>>153343901
>>153343889
Sengoku is canonically a super genius who is world renowned for being the smartest living strategist. But yeah I'm sure he was just idling like a retard.
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Please Oda.
Please let him fluke his way into a Yonkou position.
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>>153344014
Sengoku could just be autistic.
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>>153342250
Salami
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>>153344061
>people actually think there will still be yonkous or that luffy will be a yonkou

you guys are all idiots, the whole point of the series is that luffy will topple the yonkou
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>>153344061
I don't know, to reach that he'd need very strong members, and having unnamed fodder make him a Yonkou would be shitty. Having named strong characters under him wouldn't fit the gag.
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>>153344212
>luffy will topple the yonkou
yeah, towards the end of the series.
For now they're up for grabs, same as how there could be more shichibukai until Fuji finishes them off.
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>>153344212
So you believe that in toppling the Yonkou, Luffy will take their territory and expand until he protects all the islands? That sounds kind of shitty, wanting to be the freest man and at the same time preventing other pirates from pirateing.
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>>153344212
There will always be strong pirate groups even if BM, Kaido, Shanks and Blackbeard fall out of grace. Their replacements can still call themselves an Emperor of the New World all they want if they have the strength to back it up.
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ODA, WHERE'S MY NIGGA ZORO?
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>>153342037
Implying "Justice" and "Evil" are somehow opposing sites.
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What are the chances that the "missing Road poneglyph" is somewhere in the ruins of Ohara? I mean, the government could have assumed it was destroyed by the Buster Call with everything else, but the whole point of Poneglyph's is that they're indestructible records. It'd be touching for Robin to set foot back there and find the last road poneglyph, the key to Raftel, back at Ohara where the decoding of poneglyphs and respect for history was at its peak.
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>>153344947
The government should have known that Poneglyphs are indestructible and that they would have to go physically retrieve it after the Buster Call.
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>>153345019
Maybe they did retrieve it. The government in possession of the last road poneglyph wouldn't be that strange.
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Where to download high quality old chapters? The stuff in the places I've found has been abysmal and I want to start reading again.
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>>153342037
I understand a public execution was to send a message to the world but why did he have to set a time and date and make it a live event? That's just asking for pirates to show up and fuck his shit.

But I guess he handled that situation greatly cause he sort of dismantled WB's crew.

But just imagine if Shanks didn't actually stop Kaidou and then the war. Shit would have been so bad.
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>>153344947
But the Road Poneglyphs are a different color, aren't they? That detail would be kind of hard to miss.
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>marine is scared of fighting
>Melts them
>muh justice
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>>153345073
I wonder if that's one of the treasures of Mariejois
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>>153343663
HE'S THE LEADER OF THE CREW
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>>153343801
I still don't understand, is this guy now a chicken for the rest of his life? Had he just never been cut before?
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>>153342144
Kai D o
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>>153345281
>Monkey D Kong
>Donkey M Kong
What did Oda mean by this?
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>>153345336
Maybe he cycles through a small list of transformations over and over until he actually dies.
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>>153345336
Maybe he lays an egg and transfers into it. He is in Big Mom's crew so he must have some kind of food spawning aspect to his power.
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>>153345102
Giving the time and place would ensure WB would be there.

Recording it would send a strong message worldwide about the WG's power and weakens the pirates will to oppose them.

It backfired when WB confirmed One Piece was real.
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>>153342037
im a Luffyfag but i like Sakazuki and im looking forward to his backstory.

>>153342129
inlcuding a goddam yonko
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>>153343905
Garp didn't even fight blackbeard and bitchslapped Jesus
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>>153345603
>It backfired when WB confirmed One Piece was real.
And then got even worse when Blackbeard showed up, and Shanks stepped in to stop the battle.
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>>153342037
what's his endgame? Whats he going to do once the Yonkou start dropping? Have the Marines gotten stronger under his leadership during the timeskip?
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>>153343495
He's higher in rank than Akainu and the former fleet admiral before Sengoku, so he's clearly strong.
He looks like a gorilla; I like to think he has the King Kong Mythical Zoan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtzhV84XEp4
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>>153343447
So is there a good reason why this guy and a team of Admirals/Schibukai acting as backup haven't been sent to kick Kaidous ass once and for all?
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>>153345972
Once he gets in his head that he must erase the filthy kaizoku no matter the cost and the WG tells him to do his fucking job, he'll tell them to go fuck themselves and proclaim the separation of the Marines from the WG as an independent faction, and will cease all peacekeeping operations to fully focus on hunting down pirates. Marines who disagree with him and choose to leave are branded as pirates themselves and given "Dead only" wanted posters.

What follows is a long and shitty war arc where the SHs aid good Marines like Smoker, Coby and Sengoku in storming the Marine HQ and taking down Sakazuki to return the Marines to their former role as peacekeepers.
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>>153346699
Kaido hasn't acted out against the Marines or the main Blues, so they let him simmer in the New World peacefully. The Shichibukai are all pirates with their own goals and reasons for being in the Warlords group. If they don't see any point in taking down Kaido (Doffy certainly wouldn't) they would try to act out against it.
The Shichibukai are only loyal to the Marines in-as-far that they leave their personal lives alone. Boa is only there to keep Amazon Lily safe. Doffy was only there for the lulz. Jinbe was only there to keep Fishmen somewhat safe.
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>>153345728
Garp vs Burgess is actually anime only
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>>153346699
Not strong enough. Them killing WB only succeeded because they brought him where they wanted him to be, it's a different story in the NW which is Yonkou territory.
Moving a force big enough to oppose one Yonkou would alert the others three, who would then either assist the attacked Yonkou or wait until the winning team's all tired out.
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>>153347001
He's also a genocidal tyrant whose mental instability might literally lead to a world war at some point. Even if they can't use the Schihibukai as allies, they have whatever weapons the Nobles are hiding, heavy hitters like Kong, Kizaru, Garp, Isshou and Sakazuki. That's more than enough firepower to deal with what is essentially they worlds strongest and most unkillable pirate. Not only would it work wonders for their reputation and propaganda, it'd save them from a massive headache down the road
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>>153342851
carrot

wait
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So whats stopping the world government from taking Luffy's village hostage as a means of getting him in line? It's not like theres anything he'd be able to do about it but comply, unless he wants to backtrack a bajillion miles to stop them
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>>153343301
The Gorosei are the 800 year old generals of the WG that led the war to take down the Ancient Kingdom.

They all got Ope Ope surgeries in succession and stopped aging.
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>>153347818
That's a very dumb way of dealing with pirates, they are the villains in the world most of the times, they wouldn't care about their shitty hometown. And in any case, Shanks and Garp have ties to it, I doubt that'd be a smart move at all.
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>>153347880
>They all got Ope Ope surgeries in succession and stopped aging.
This is dumb as shit. I really doubt we'll see more than one person who used that ability.
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>>153347960
It makes total sense for the story though
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>>153343686
How could Akainu end the series in a year?
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>>153344740
Getting his ass pounded by THE KAIDOU-SAMA
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>>153343191
They are on dragons radar
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>>153345972
I think Jinbe said that under Akainu's rule the Marines have gotten stronger than ever before.

Then Smoker, Tashigi, G5, Maynard, and Bastille happened. Fujitira gives the Marines some credit though.
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>>153347960
I don't think it'll be in succession and they might not even all be from the same period of time, but I don't think there's anything weird with a couple immortals running the WG.
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>>153344224
>implying Caesar won't join him
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>>153347984
It kind of does, but it's really silly imagining the whole process of it all. I don't really like the idea of Law being so important in the overall story either.
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>>153348306
Law is only important to the story because he holds the fruit currently. If he was killed, then his importance would only be his crew + the SHs acting out against his killer in anger for doing so. Whoever gets the fruit after that would be just as important.
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>>153348094
You can't pound what you can't find
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>>153347818
That's dragons home as well.

>>153347393
I doubt Garp is willing to fight anymore wars for the wg
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>>153348033
Oda was talking about how it was important not to make the main character too strong, and gave Akainu as an example.

Akainu, obviously being admiral level, would easily wipe the floor with any East Blue/Grand Line/Early New World enemy, only leaving other admiral/yonkou level characters worth screen time.
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>>153343527
>>153343663
Same eyebrows as Garp and his name is in line with Garp and Dragon's name. Could be part of Garp's extended family.
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>>153345603
My point is that it was a fucking huge risk.

Aside from confirming the One Piece imagine if Kaidou had actually made it, or if Shanks hadn't. The marines would have probably lost a whole lot more.
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>>153346463
>Fucking Brutal.
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>>153347960
It's a solid theory. The Marines were willing to pay 5 billion for it.
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>>153349324
Wasn't Kaidou trying to attack Whitebeard while the latter was moving to Marineford to try and save Ace? That would be a good thing for the Marines.

Shanks showing up was a good thing because of everything that happened with BB but they really weren't expecting that.
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>>153348306
It's not like this would make Law important or anything. The Gorosei would be already established ageless people and that would be that, regardless of what happens with the current holder of the fruit.

There's no way that ability was introduced for no reason, and I don't think Oda is gonna kill Law to make use of it. I don't even think it makes sense to turn someone into an immortal in the current story, the point of the ability is that they get to live indefinitely so the effects wouldn't be seen if the operation happened in the present.
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>Ope Ope no Mi makes Gorosei immortal
>Bonney makes them young and in their prime again
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>>153350149
They aren't young though. If Bonney "fled" it means she was with them before, so why would the Gorosei remain old?

I think the surgery halts their aging. So if the 800-year old generals is right, the youngest looking dude of the 5 was the one who first got it, and the oldest looking one (baldy?) was the one to get it last.
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So, I was bored and decided to watch Film Gold.

Why do so many of you faggots seem to dislike it?
I think Tesero was certainly a weaker character than Z, but the film and action as a whole felt a lot better than Film Z did.

Also, I liked the theme usage more in this one.
All the shit about freedom, money and authority is very well covered, but they still did it in fun ways.

I especially loved the joke/idea of "Kane = Kami = Kame"
I feel it makes more sense in english though since they can directly say "Gold = God" as the pun.
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>>153350149
Will we ever find out why she is always crying
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>>153344212
The Yonkou aren't so much an organisation or rank, but a title for the four most powerful/influential pirates. If one of the Yonkou dies/retires/is surpassed then the next most powerful pirate gets the Yonkou title, like Blackbeard did.
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>>153350228
Perhaps Bonney can make someone permanently young at the cost of her life? I'm sure she can control the effects of her fruit on other people, and it probably wears off with time or if she falls unconscious.
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>>153350422
The introduction of the term made it seem like there happened to be 4 powerful pirates who had each other at a stalemate in the race to Raftel, hence "yonkou". It's not like there always have to be a "yonkou".

After that we learned that they control NW territory divided in 4, so that's another angle to the categorization. Blackbeard probably got added to the "Yonkou" group because it was a very straightforward replacement of WB, he probably took his territories along with his fruit so it made sense.

But if the world went into chaos and they started to get defeated, I don't think there is some kind of weird necessity for there to be new "Yonkou" emerging. Pretty sure in the time of Roger there weren't 4 devas or anything of the sort, just pirates competing
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what´s her end game?
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>>153350446
See how they have scars and one dude with a sword? They were fighters. Why would normal politic-oriented nobles fight? It's not like any succesful marine just gets 'drafted' into being a world leader, they have to be nobles to be respected by the other nobles.

Very likely that they are immortal and old as fuck.
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>>153350446
>>153350786
what's interesting is the gandi one with the sword looked really regretful when ordering the buster call on ohara
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>>153350786
Have they visibly aged since time skip because mostly everyone else has. Especially the older characters like akainu and sengoku
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>>153350970
Well at this point if they were cartoon evil like some other OP villains it wouldn't be interesting. They probably genuinely believe that the secrets of the world must remain hidden (along with the weapons and whatever the One Piece is), and have found across the years that they need to get authoritarian and ruthless to keep everything under control.

The Gorosei as men obsessed with control and dominance as opposed to Luffy's seek for freedom is a nice enough framework to build the inevitable confrontation. Add to that Roger's aphorism about things that can never be toppled: inherited will, people's dreams and oh, the PASSAGE OF TIME. dun dun dun
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Akainu is pol incarnate
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>>153351145
nah
spandam is more pol
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>>153351004
They looked exactly the same in the Robin flashback, pre-TS and post-TS. Dunno if there's any other showing of them during a different period.

Actually I think it's pretty interesting how Clover says that the key to everything is the name of the kingdom. The Gorosei seem to agree considering they order to kill him before he says it. From a storytelling POV, this wouldn't make much sense if the name of the kingdom was just some random new thing we didn't know about, the reveal wouldn't have any impact on the reader. So the name is probably related either to something we already knew when that flashback happened, or at least to something that we will come to know before the name is revealed.

I think what makes the most sense, considering everything we know now, is that the kingdom was actually called "Raftel" or something very similar. It checks all the boxes.
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>>153351145
How tho
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>>153351145
This >>153351525
They might share opinions, but Akainu is too badass to be compared to the likes of /pol.
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>>153351525
Did Spandam have actual opinions? I just remember him as a goofy cartoon character who just wanted power

Akainu embodies an ideology. Dunno about /pol/, /pol/ is sheltered kids playing edge
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>>153344061
Buggy will save Shanks from Blackbeard, calling it now
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>>153352133
>Shanks living
come on

One Piece follows the canonical forms
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>>153350970
They're obviously not the kind of evil ruler we've come to see in people like Wapol and Doffy.

It's not that unthinkable that the mass murder of harmless villagers whose sole crime was seeking knowledge might not sit completely well with at least some of them, even if it is absolutely necessary in order to maintain their interests.
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Who's your favorite background girl in One Piece?
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>>153349595
If the Marines had gotten the Ope Ope fruit, who would they have spent the one-use immortality operation on?

Celestial Dragons so far seem pretty worthless as tactical assets. Kong? One of the other elderly strategists they have?
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>>153352718
they just seemed to want the df itself, not for the surgery in particular
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>>153352718
Imagine a young Prime Garp
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>>153352718
I don't think it's unthinkable that there are some inmmortal CDs. The marines didn't go looking for it because they're the marines, they were obviously sent by the WG.

Also I don't think being "immortal" here means you can't die like Kaido, or that you can't lose in battle or whatever. It just means you don't age anymore. That's much more medical and surgery like than dragon ball powers.
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In the end, weren't the Marines greatly weakened anyways? Garp and Sengoku both stepped down from the front lines. That's a pretty large percentage of their greatest forces.

On top of that, it took almost the entire Marines to take on White Beard's crew alone. There are still three other Yonkou left, as well as unknowns like Blackbeard and Luffy.
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>>153351925
/pol/ are pretty much a cartoon character taken too far.
They're a living caricature of the New Age bitter far-right pseudo-intellectual, the balancing force of tumblr's living caricature of the New Age bitter far-left pseudo-idealist.
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>>153352894
they upped their manpower with new pacifistas and a world marine draft

sure garp and sengoku retired, but I'm sure if things came down to it they'd still step up and fight
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Is Urouge stronger than Sanji?
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>>153353122
Yeah, he defeated one of the Sweet Commanders.
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>>153352894
>Garp and Sengoku both stepped down from the front lines.

They didn't do anything the entire war, they don't really count as assets.

The entirety of the Whitebeard war basically amounted to the the WB pirates falling into Marine deathtraps and being slaughtered unconditionally without any significant casualties on the side of the Marines.

Obviously they can't fight 2 Yonkou at the same time but unless the WB pirates were just unusually weak the Marines still seem like the biggest fish by a landslide.
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>>153353224
>replying seriously to shitpost
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>>153343868
They were both getting weaker with old age though
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>>153353233
>without any significant casualties on the side of the Marines.
The Marines lost his central headquarter and a fuckton of soldiers too
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Meanwhile, there's still Dragon to worry about. I wonder what pirates think of Dragon.
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>>153353475
A building that can literally be rebuilt and a ton of fodder.
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>>153353864
loli nami > pre time skip nami > all other namis
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>>153352582
robin
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>>153353432
Yeah, but they were still drastically stronger than others.
Garp was equal to Roger. Roger is stronger than White Beard.
And it took all three Admirals, 200+ people around captain level, a heart attack from his own health, and black beard to finish him off.

White beard did that while sick and dying. Garp is healthy as far as we know. So he's probably still the strongest person out there.
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Do you think we'll ever see Garp fighting seriously? It's pretty hard to gauge how strong he really is in the present, he barely did anything in Marineford.
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can doflamingo transform himself into strings?
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>>153353864
>>153353964
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>>153354079
>Roger is stronger than White Beard
?
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>>153353233
>goalkeepers barely do anything the entire game!

No one besides luffy could have gotten through Garp that easily.
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>>153354110
It'll probably happen when the story gets around to Dragon. Which may be coming up soon, considering Burgess found their base and told Black Beard where it was.
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Has the new anime come out? Apparently we see Vivi again?
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>>153354273
>so stupid he can't even use question marks correctly
It's no wonder you don't remember anything you read.
Please go back to tumblr where posting like a retard is acceptable.
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>>153354312
We already know that BB destroyed the Revolutionaries' base.

>>153354314
Yes. In the last 30 seconds, next episode will focus more on her.
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>>153354347
good stuff
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>>153354110
Garps time is over but there will probably be at least one Flashback about him and Roger towards the end of the series
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>>153354361
He did? I haven't fully caught up with the manga yet.
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>>153354110
>>153354447
if we don't get a spread of garp, dragon and luffy standing together i'll riot
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>>153354079
>Garp was equal to Roger.
>Roger is stronger than White Beard.
You again. Prime Whitebeard = Roger
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Year of Jinbe's death
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>>153354491
>buggy calling him "the pirate king roger"
>not "cap'n rogs"
oda didn't plan it
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>>153354299
That's true. But as far as the showing at Marineford goes you can basically ignore Garp and Sengoku's presence and the battle goes the same way. The change from almost retired to retired isn't a big hit.
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>>153354447
Who cares about how strong he was back then, we know he fought Roger evenly and Roger was the strongest.

Garp should still be really strong, he's just as old as Sengoku and WB, but they could still fight and wreak havok. Garp hasn't shown his full strength.

>>153354486
How would that even fit with any kind of story without being forced?
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>>153342037
Killing the deserters without trial is not justified.
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>>153354528
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>>153354583
>How would that even fit with any kind of story without being forced?
Final war, obviously Dragon and Luffy will be on the same side unless Dragon gets taken out earlier. Garp could easily show up and he won't be on WG's side of course.

If not, then at least some nice panel after a conversation or whatever, removed from a fight.

If not, then at the very least some form of interaction between Garp and Dragon would be nice
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>>153354491
>as of now
Can you even fucking read?
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>>153354629
how does that show oda planned it? in fact if you look at the flashback around those chapters it's so outlandish to think that would be roger's ship it adds to what i said
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>>153354734
He alone fought Roger to a standstill and Roger's dead, ergo Whitebeard is (was) the strongest pirate alive. English isn't your native language, clearly.
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>>153354706
My point is, something huge enough to have the three of them involved would have so many participants that having the three of them, without any other ally on the same place would be kind of impossible. I could see them interacting in pairs, but the three of them would be kind of awkward, especially since they don't really have a family relationship, so Garp and Luffy see Dragon in a completely different way.

Garp and Dragon will almost definitely interact in some way, I could even see them having a full fight.
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Will Sanji finally do something besides crying on the next chapter? Here's hoping.
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>>153354528
speedreader detected

buggy doesn't/didn't want people to know he was on roger's ship, which is why he was surprised when the marines found out
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Blackbeard with the two most powerful devil fruits and his crews couldn't beat old Sengoku and Garp!!!!! Blackbeard is too weak for YONKO
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>>153354737
Because when they were doing the anime for that scene Buggy was going to call Rayleigh "captain" in the flashback and Oda told them that Rayleigh wasn't the captain.
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>>153355126
how does that show he planned it?

source, also
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>>153355161
>SBS vol 49
>D: Oda-sensei, here's a very serious question. If Shanks was a deck hand on Gold Roger's ship, does that mean the guy who hit him and Buggy when they were fighting in Volume 3 was the captain of the ship? Or maybe an officer? by Sonoe-san

>O: Ah yes, the story of Buggy and Shanks in their swabby days. That would mean the captain of their ship was none other than the Pirate King, Gold Roger. The man who scolded the two boys was the first mate. I've had that set in stone since the very start, so I even made sure the anime staff knew that.
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>>153354964
Leaving aside you trying to argue semantics.
I hope you realize it doesn't change anything at all about the argument. Because Garp is still drastically stronger than anyone else. As he was healthy, while White beard was sick.
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>>153355271
do we know if garp was 1v1 as strong as roger/wb though? he could be like a smoker, and smoker will be orders of magnitude weaker than luffy by the end
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>>153354347
This is advanced speedreading.
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>>153355330
Who knows. We never saw anything. But even Roger in a flash back noted that he always fought head to head with Garp.
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>>153355363
Anyone who says speed reading needs to be shot in the face. What you're replying to has nothing to do with reading or otherwise.
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>Akainu is standing right behind me.

>What do I do? from T. Junpei

>O: Calm down. I'm going to teach you a move that will allow you to escape this threat. First, turn your mouth into a "3" and stare into the direction of your upper left. Then, begin to whistle. This move will likely allow you to escape most enemies, ghosts, evil spirits and the like.

Akainu BTFO
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>>153354706
Yeah Garp was pretty conflicted about which side to help during marine ford after all.

It's very possible that Garp could switch sides especially after Ace.
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>>153353864
They just get bigger every season. But I'm glad the clima takt is finally the right color.
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>>153355443
It does you autist. It has got to do with reading both the manga and the comments, neither of which you seem to have understood properly.
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>>153355115
That was 2 years ago. He's stronger after his training arc.
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>>153354979
Well Oda did say that the marine ford arc was just practice for the final arc.
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>>153355552
Again, shoot yourself in the face please. There is no case ever where just typing a question mark is acceptable. And that's what you are getting called out on.
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>>153355161
>>153355252
>>153355252

>BTFO
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holy moly
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>>153355604
?
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>>153355728
the "fluid" animation gave her the wet-t look
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>>153355604

have you actually read manga or did you just barely skim through the wiki, speedreader?
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>>153355728
>>153355780
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>>153355736
>>153355790
There is no question about the manga here. It's all about you shitposting and typing like a retard.
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What if Zunesha was the Uranus weapon?
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>>153355271
Smoker hardly lives up to Garp honestly, he's more like the Zenigata of One Piece which is amusing but for different reasons.

Smoker doesn't beat Luffy to near death like Roger said Garp did many times, Smoker doesn't pick fights with big fish like Chinjao for fun, and Admiral Coby might be the one who captures Pirate King Luffy in the end.
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Who's the strongest human in One Piece? Akainu or Kaido? We all know Big Mom will get beaten by Luffy soon and Shanks is worthless.
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>>153355994
Garp.
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>>153355994
Shanks
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>>153352133
>tfw no bro moments between them
>tfw no segments of young shanks and buggy
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>>153355115
>implying BB won't have like 5 devil fruits by the final arc
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>>153356136
I can't wait for Buggy to lend Shanks his arm for a big fight.
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>>153355994
implying it isn't BB or Kong
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>>153356204
He's just gonna have a Paramecia, a Logia, and a Zoan.
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>>153355728
>when she sticks the pole between her tits
Jesus
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>>153355842
Stop being autistic. By continuing to argue about something so stupid you're contributing to the shitposting.
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>>153356459
Stop using autistic as your cover all buzzword insult. You look really stupid doing so.
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>>153356567
?
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Goodnight
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>>153357379
>being this pathetic
I often wonder how people like you don't just put a bullet in your brain.
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>>153357522
don't wake up sana fag
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>>153357527
>>153356567
Done shitposting yet? Or are you incapable of functioning like a normal human being?
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>>153357866
Why do you keep replying to the same post more than once? Regardless, you are the shitposter here. Telling you to stop is not shitposting itself.

>gets told to stop typing badly
>types badly even more out of spite
You are the one breaking the rules. You can't just call other people shitposters with no actual reason backing it up.
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>>153342037
He massacred the civilians in Ohara.
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>>153358251
>ironic shitpost image talks about ironic shtposting
hey
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>>153358448
That isn't ironic, and you're a fucking moron.
It's clear you're some retard who never actually leaves one piece threads and thinks this site is a chat room.
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>>153358523
as long as you feel satisfied anon
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>>153358553
It's pathetic how you actually feel entitled to make bad posts as it's your given right.
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>>153358624
oh wait i just realized who you are

yeah go neck yourself, if there's anything wrong with these threads it's you
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>an entire episode just for 2 panels of Vivi and Shirahoshi set sail for the Reverie
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>>153358888
It's a fucking flashback episode, my man.
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>>153358669
You have no idea who I am. And what's more, your baseless claims that I am problem are just that. Baseless. And you refuse to back up anything you say.
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>>153342483
>>153342543
>>153342632
Kizaru could kill all the Yonkou.

Kizaru turned his back on Whitebeard and didn't give a shit that his back was unguarded against the strongest human in the world.

Kizaru still shot lasers at Law's submarine even though Ben Beckham pointed a gun at him a few seconds beforehand.

Kizaru is the only Marine that never shed a single tear when killing his former Instructor, Admiral Z.

Rayleigh had sweat forming on his head when clashing against Kizaru.

Kizaru is the only Admiral that did not reveal his main technique that gives him his Yellow Monkey nickname.

Kizaru's Character Song involves 3 Mythological Monkeys
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>>153359248
I feel like Kizaru is like Ace: retarded, but has a fucking powerful fruit.

Him being mentally slow will be his downfall. If someone driven, intelligent, and serious got his fruit they'd be unstoppable.
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>>153359248
Kizaru is the only one who was not considered for a promotion
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>>153359319
I think it's more like he's the only one who didn't want it.
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>>153359375
>Sengoku nominates Aokiji
>Akainu was a marine favorite
Yeah, no.
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>>153359495
Not him but regardless of whether or not Kizaru would have been considered, he's definitely not the sort who'd accept it.
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>>153342037

When do we get our 'global war'?

Marines need to fracture into:

Royal loyalists - fight for the CDs.
Zealots - Akainu
Keep the peace - garp/aokiji/smoker etc

Plus:

4 yonkou - who probably might just be FFA
Revolutionaries - who may also align with aokiji/garps/smoker group because their end goal is the removal of CDs, not the WG as a whole organisation, but just the leadership.
Luffy + friends (might be part of the yonkou block by then)
And finally any nation not allied with WG/revo might throw a few into the fray.

I just want to see how things pan out, some groups have similar goals and can work together right until the end, then they'd have to turn on each other, because 'who leads' is fundamentally different for each. Like do you think akainu would allow ANY nation to ignore WG rules even if they are not part of the WG alliance?

What about efforts to rebuild the world or alliances after the final war? Will a new WG organization form, as the idea seems to work on the small scale of keep weakling pirates inline.
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>>153342037
>>153358271

I think people really don't understand that our worlds are completely different. To him, the ohararians are the same as a country in our world that tries to understand and decipher something related to nuclear codes, or get themselves nuclear weapons which would threaten the world population. And guess what ? there is a country like that in our world, and we've been bombing the shit out of it.

I don't think he does what he does for enjoyement or for the tenryuubitos, but for his own justice, probably with the people in mind, and probably with some trauma mixed in too. I fucking love this character though.
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>>153359528
That goes out the window when you realize he's an admiral and someone like Garp only went to Vice Admiral for the freedom he wants.
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>>153359594

But I don't care if iran makes nukes, dozens of countries have nukes, I think we all should have them.
Playing peace keeper is hypocritical and just as evil as conquering, just under a false pretense.
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>>153359617
I did consider that, but I think Kizaru is a little different. He seems like the sort of person who'd like having more authority, but only to an extent. He wouldn't want to be stuck behind a desk all day as fleet admiral, but admiral over vice admiral is worth it to him for the greater authority. I mean, can you imagine Kizaru as being the sort of guy who'd want to take orders from an admiral as a vice admiral? I can't.

Kizaru hasn't had much development so it's mostly just my head canon, but my impression of him is that vice admiral doesn't give him enough autonomy, but fleet admiral is too much work. That's the sort of character he seems like to me.
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>>153359712
you're making the same mistake again. their world is not our world. They only have 3 "nuclear weapons" and they don't have one either. As far as we know, there's nothing that shows the WG searching for them either (except spandam sr and jr, which were independent missions)

so yeah, to them it's the same as nobody having it is better than someone getting it at all.
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>>153358251
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>>153359308
How is Kizaru retarded?

He has never shown fear.

Also, Kizaru's personality changed upon becoming Admiral.

Compare his Vice Admiral look and personality when beating up Arlong versus his Admiral Look and Personality.

Also, before Kizaru was a Vice Admiral, that film marine poster of the Z movie had Kizaru looking like a Thug.

His childhood picture has Kizaru already reading books by candlelight while every other kid was doing other shit.
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>>153359726
As an addendum to that, Garp wasn't really looking for "freedom" by remaining as a vice admiral so much as he was looking for "no responsibility".

Garp doesn't have freedom as a vice admiral, but he doesn't have to make decisions. He still has to go where he's ordered. Garp's situation is basically like "tell me where the problem is and I'll go and throw canonballs at it". He doesn't really have freedom as a vice admiral, but he has no responsibility and that's what works for him.
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>>153359950
Epic downvote. You sure proved how you're not cancer.
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>>153349595

They passed over Bonney making them young again when Akainu captured her.

Odds are they don't have eternal life.
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>>153360023
>muh boogeyman

I don't know who you think I am but I was only reacting to your ebin xD troll maymay picture.

I came to this thread maybe 10 minutes ago.
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>>153359956
>How is Kizaru retarded?
>He has never shown fear.
Answering your own question desu senpai
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>>153360101
ok there, samefag
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>>153342583
arlong
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>>153360136
ok there, delusionalfag
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>>153360101
It's obvious who you are, and you ever every reason to lie. So your word means nothing.
And there is no way there are two people stupid enough to think that image is a "troll". Even more so considering it predates your stupid "meme" bull shit. Not that you would know that considering you're newfag cancer who comes to this site for the sole purpose of acting badly.
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>>153360226
Here, your final (you).
I know you crave them.
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>>153359712
>But I don't care if iran makes nukes, dozens of countries have nukes, I think we all should have them.

I think most people would rather this not be the case. All the countries with significant numbers of nukes at the moment are all sort of in the same 2-3 circles and they're all well off enough they wouldn't feel any need to actually use them.
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>>153360345
>whole point of the argument against you is to make you stop posting and actually behave
>durrr u must want (you)s
How literally retarded can you be? Do you just parrot things without reading or understanding anything?
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>>153360345

>3 eyes ahego

CUTE
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>>153360431
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>>153358953
?
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>>153360463
No, really. How do you live with yourself? I want to know.
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>>153360345
>>153360459

>Sanji will never see this face

Year of Sanji my ass.
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Is Oda foreshadowing Luffy recruiting a female dentist with a milk logia?
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>>153360992
>free gomad

How can other logias even compete?
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>>153360992
>Brook power ups by drinking her milk
>Sanji power ups by milking her
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>>153359948

I expect WG to have a few WMDs up their sleeve. These fuckers have lazors, cyborgs, fruit eating objects, cloning, nerve gas etc. That's probably only the last 20-30~ years or so.

But that also begs the question of 'what fruit does vegapunk have'. It's either a way too see the future/past tech or he's learned of it somehow. The rest of WG uses muskets (without ever reloading) and wooden ships. But still have the technology to cut seastone (harder than diamond apparently). WGs tech is all over the place and more so now.

I ignore dials/snails because snails are more information transmission and dials haven't featured as much as they should have. Given the 'modern' security systems of CCTV, computers and the like the story could have had more in the cyber security vein (it being more common) and hell franky/ussop could have been the computer tech. The elements are already in the story, it just doesn't get used the same way as most US crime/spy series.

One piece's technology is just weird as fuck. You could take it in many directions because the familiar pieces of technology and what they are capable of are already there, just under utilized.
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>>153361190
The cyborgs with lazors were state of the art technology. If they have a WMD, it will be Uranus and nothing else.
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>>153350786
Also take note at the sword guy's sword. It's got the same style guard as Zoro's Kitetsu. So it's probably a legendary sword.
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>>153361384
It's probably the #1 sword ever, or #2 if the #1 is really Mihawk's sword
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>tfw you remember there's another arc with Momonusuke and tragic backstories of another benevolent royal family
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>>153350970
really ? he was ? I don't recall that. what chapter was it ?
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>>153361537
yeah what's up with the glorification of monarchies all across the OP manga

i thought it was about freedom
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>>153361190
That's why I consider Oda's world building to be really good from a writing point of view. he created a world where everything, literally everything, is possible and pretty much nothing can be seen as "ridiculous". If in next week's chapter a plastic plastic no mi appears then it might be important to the plot, or not at all. he could create pretty muh anything he wants and could still fit the world. that's also why one piece's world doesn't feel repetitive even after 850 chapters.

>>153361580
not every monarchy that existed in our world was "evil" either. it's also exactly because it's about freedom that there are that many monarchies dude. Luffy's endgame will probably be to abolish nobility or something like that.
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>>153361318
Isn't there some special national treasure that the world nobles have?
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>>153361561
395

It's really impressive how far back oda has planned the backstory to the world of one piece
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>>153362239
I unironically believe that the Gorosei are good people with the best intentions for everyone in mind
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>>153361991
Yeah, and Doflamingo said that having that treasure and the Ope Ope immortality would have allowed him to take over the world. So the equation is

Immortality + Mariejoa treasure = world domination

Now the Gorosei have the treasure and dominate the world. Solve the equation and there you go
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>>153361991
That's probably why they even keep the World Nobles around.
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>>153362239
oh yeah! no wonder I couldn't remember it though. It really is the only time we've seen the gorosei show an emotion that isn't discontent.

but isn't his nose a bit too long ? I think it's the dreadlocks guy with the scar on his face.
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>>153361991
Doffy wanted the Ope Ope to take over it

it's probably a human weapon like Hirahoshi that they keep forever alive with Bonney's devil fruit ability.
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>>153362549
I was under the impression it's not the immortality operation that lets you do that, but another hidden trick of the Ope Ope no mi that Doflamingo never elaborated. Otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned it separately from the personality transplant and world conquering.
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>>153362753
What if the weapon is locked in a vault with no door? Just a random ass shambles would get it out.
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>>153362875
But we already have a door door fruit that lets you make doors into anything, and it belonged to a relative chump in the government.
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>>153362917
They don't need the weapon right now. And if an ability can open the door to your crowd control, why wouldn't you give it to a mook?
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>>153362875
Then he could seek others fruits, like Blueno's. Or just turn the surroundings walls into strings with his awakened power to pass through.
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>>153362971
I just don't think it would fit considering the grand level of importance they place on the Ope Ope no mi.
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>>153363336
Stop shitposting. The only OTP in One Piece is Ussop x Parona.
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post yfw nami realizes she wants a man who can stretch
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Pudding is love, Pudding is life.
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>>153364216
She's already stretched out enough after being ARLONGED
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>>153364216
>this is a children show
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>>153364216
>yellow
Should have been red
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>>153342610
>>153342610

All I want is for them to not just 'be evil'. But have a decent reason for why 'seriously please don't research there's a button to alter the planets land mass. It would result in even more upheaval and destruction than what we currently have.'

Like I can understand CD's having a selection who are your generic arrogant supremacists, but have the reasoning of the gorosei? be more about stability and status quo. The question then becomes 'why not let everyone know there's a button that will kill 99% of islands'. Wouldn't that be a better deterrent than sheer oppression that comes off as them just wanting to maintain power? Because it only spurs on the other renegade factions.
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If Oda doesn't release a big ass databook after the series ends, we riot.
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>>153359956
>How is Kizaru retarded?
>He has never shown fear.

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>153342037

The World Government is an oppressive, brutal regime that exists to turn the world into the personal playground of a handful of aristocrats. They can do this because the marines act as the military branch of the WG. That in turn makes belonging to the marines a morally questionable choice.

Akainu is especially bad, though, because while the other high authorities in the marines are either chaotic neutral or begrudgingly bow to the WG (I suspect a rebellion within the marines before the story is over), Akainu is their loyal dog who views their selfish bullshit as the indisputable word of justice.
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>>153365238
>I don't think the Gorosei is totaly evil either, they are more in the "We are ready to everything to keep the world as he his now" cause they fear change and what could happen.

The Tenryubito on the other hand are totaly Evil Stupid, to a Dark Eldar level of dickery.
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>>153366343
>The World Government is an oppressive, brutal regime...
Bullshit. The only bad place to be a peasant is Sabaody because Tenryubitos are there.
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>>153366472
And you know... the whole slave trade thing.
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>>153366472

Yeah, the nobles just shoot and enslave people at random whenever they go anywhere, and censor history under threat of death. No issues there.
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>>153366472
>World Governement support slavery and let the Tenryubito do stupid ass shenaningan while getting a fuck ton of money from tax that could be used to actually usefull and not detrimental thing.

kek
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wait do people actually think the gorosei are evil?

they are just maintaining the order that was established by all of the cuck kings that came together to form the WG (minus the ones that did not join) - evil has nothing to do with it

and the tenryubito are just the spawns of those cuck kings who have been living as literal god tier humans for centuries and have suffered morally from that and probably all of the inbreeding they do
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>>153366540

I don't think it's inbreeding as they seemingly can have sex with whomever. The problem is if there are no consequences to your actions it's fairly hard to become a good person. Look at how many people need the idea of a heaven or hell to keep themselves in check. People literally say stuff like "If you don't believe in God why aren't you out there raping and killing"
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>>153366598

>as they seemingly can have sex with whomever

yeah i thought about that too but i doubt they would let people into their club so easily

unless oda has decided for them to not follow actual human history then they are going to be inbreeding like fucking crazy
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>>153366525
>>153366535
>>153366537
And that disproves my argument how? Sabaody is shitty. Other places aren't.
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>>153366668
Goa.
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Anyone else think the Celestial Dragons aren't really selfish and evil, but just live in constant fear of being excluded from their group? The one guy we saw who stepped down had the shittiest fucking life.
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>>153366816
No. The majority of them are probably compkete dickheads. They'll be fine as long as they don't just get up and leave like Homing did. It's not like every one will look at you weird if you don't fill your quota of abuse 3 civilians per day or whatever.
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Guys it is so simple.
Raftel
Raft el
Le Raft
No one can find le raft because it is a big french raft that hides from everybody
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>>153366816
Homing was a retard and deserved everything he got for being a naive fool.
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>>153366661
I don't think this is a thing that will ever be addressed by One Piece
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>>153366816

This is where moral courage comes in.

If you sit by and watch atrocities happen right in front of you without doing anything, you're somewhat guilty. If you actively partake in the process of victimization as some kind of proof of purity (or for money), you're very guilty. Oppressive regimes couldn't function without the cooperation of the people.
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>>153367076
Homing was a good person and literally everyone he ever met were evil shitbags.
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Reminder that even aside from wacky races, even aside from strange stuff like Ms Goldenweek's paintings, even aside from Haki, even aside from Devil Fruits

We know that LITERAL MAGIC exists in One Piece's world, and it is a very likely probability that the One Piece is related to this literal magic that lets elephants send their view telephatically to 8 year old kids

http://onepiecepodcast.com/2015/07/22/the-one-piece-connection/#IV_THEONE_PIECE
>For the term “One Piece” we see the katakana used most often, the transliterated term for One Piece, ワンピース is literally wan pīsu. This is the text we see on the cover of every single One Piece volume in Japan. When Whitebeard said that “the One Piece does exist” [Volume 59, Page 54], One Piece is expressed in a combination of hiragana and kanji: “hito-tsunagi daihiho” (ひとつなぎの大秘宝), which translates to “the great treasure in one piece” and also includes a small katakana reading next to it in the familiar ワンピース (wan pīsu). Most Japanese speakers would read this phonetically using the hiragana for One Piece, the homonym: “hito–tsunagi” (一つなぎ).

>However, there is another viable reading Oda has not yet used which would include Kanji instead of what Whitebeard said: “hito-tsunagi” (人繋ぎ) with the hiragana “hito-tsunagi“ (ひとつなぎ), or “the one that connects them all.” The power of the One Piece, therefore, may be the power to connect all things, in all places, with all people across time and space.

tl;dr the one piece is basically instrumentality, or the coordinate from snk, or the source of the morphogenetic field
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>>153359566
I just really hope it doesn't become some cycle and new yonkos are in place with a new set of admirals etc
Oda needs to make it so that something happens that changes the entire system of the world
For some reason, people want the ending to be one of the strawhats handing Luffys hat over to a new kid who wants to be the pirate king after Luffy's execution
Who in their right mind would want that kind of shit
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>>153367249
Or the All Blue.
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>>153367342
Aru bru
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>>153367342
>>153367353
Where will aru bru be?
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>>153367249
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>>153355728

When was this?
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>>153367404
Everything is located on Raftel. One Piece, aru bru, the end of the world, the last poneglyph. Everything except the strongest swordman who Zoro found after like a month at sea.
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It's going to be revealed that Big Mom wiped out Elbaf isn't it...

We're never going to get an Elbaf arc.
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>>153367468
How will oda convincingly draw the zoro vs mihawk fight
Seems like it would be kind of boring to have them just meet up and say "hey lets fight" since we know Zoro will win
I'm sceptical.
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>>153367508
It may not even happen at this point
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>>153343977
just wait
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>>153367528
I'd prefer that
Mihawk said to Zoro that he should surpass him, that never meant beat him in a duel
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>>153367578
Meh, Shiliew probably gonna kill Mihawk and Zoro will fight him during the big climax.
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>>153367528
>>153367578

The most obvious thing is Mihawk getting killed because of him being unable to counter a specific technique. Zoro then learning the counter and beating his killer.
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>>153367648
>>153367627
Killed might be too far, at this point I've seen predictions of every top tier
Probably just seriously injure and quite obviously defeat, maybe even shatter his sword
And yeah, zoro just learning to beat the technique, maybe because he uses three sword style he is able to best it or something
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>>153367685
predictions of every top tier dying*
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>>153367508
>Blackbeard pirates kill Whitebeard pirates along with Jozu
>They steal diamond devil fruit from dead Jozu
>Blackbeard gives diamond fruit to Shiliew
>Shiliew kills Mihawk and becomes the best swordsmen in the world
>Shiliew is the final boss for Zoro
>Zoro in Alabasta foreshadow that eventually he will cut trough a diamond
Thats mine headconon and its obvious for me
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>>153367712
I wonder if endgame Zoro will be able to cut seastone
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>>153367712
If that does happen, I hope its a fight where Zoro gets seriously injured and pushed to his limit
We've never really seen that for Zoro or Sanji very much compared to Luffy besides Zoro's fight with Daz bones
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I feel like after what he was through, Brook should have gotten a look at Nami's panties
Anyone else mad Brook so easily admitted he got the ponygliphs with Brulee just sitting there listening? It would have been so much easier if they didn't know.
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>>153367769
they should kill brulee
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>>153342037
Justified?
By a world government which nobody elected, nobody agreed their supremacy to and nobody likes?
Currently marines are just another form of pirates, only self-justified in their justice
That's pretty much the gist of the series actually
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>>153367648
The satisfaction of Zoro's quest would stem from him defeating Mihawk. Technically he could still be the world's strongest by beating the man who beat the strongest, but it doesn't seem like what setup they are going for, that would be sort of almost like a cop out
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>>153344740
ALL THE CHARACTERS WE WANT TO SEE IN THIS SPECIFIC ARC ARE MISSING FROM THIS ARC
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>>153367790
Well we still need to find out what happened in the void century to know why the celestials are treated so highly and why the marines would go out of their way to protect them
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>>153367790
>leaders need to be elected to be justified
You democrat cuck.
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>>153367827
Yeah but try and think of a non cringey way of staging the Zoro vs Mihawk battle
There would be no anger behind their fighting, no bloodlust or adrenaline, they're pretty much friends by this point
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Hold the fucking phone

what if the last road poneglyph is on the Moon?

Please Oda
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>>153367832
No, I'm all for a benevolent dictator but celestials are far from benevolent
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>>153367864
Enel will bring it down without realising what it is
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>>153367864
What if it's tattooed on Eminem now?
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>>153367881
Celestials =/= WG. In fact, it's all but stated that Celestials control WG. Puzzling, but true.
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>>153367881
What if the head celestial is luffy's birth mom?
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>>153367932
Why would dragon fuck a celestial
Are you telling me that the revolutionary army is built upon Dragon getting revenge on his slut wife?
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>>153367955
She doesn't have to be a jerk CD

Also she's obviously dead, Dragon's character almost necessitates a dead wife, it's a millenium Japanese trope
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>>153367863
Zoro knows better than to let "friends", or a mentor in this case come between him and his dream as long as he isn't unjustly hurting anyone. Mihawk wants wants to see Zoro surpass him.
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>>153367955
Maybe she gave him the clap?
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>>153367249
It's just one piece of meat.
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>>153367955
Maybe she took the dog with her when they split because of their differing ideologies, maybe she is a spy, you never know, man, and you shouldn't ask.
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>>153367987
It wasfour pieces before that fat fuck Roger got there

>It's alright, I left one piece for you guys
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>>153367249
>wan pīsu
The greatest leak you ever took.
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>>153367977
>>153367994
But then it begs the question, who was Dragons mother
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>>153368027
That would be croc-boy
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>>153368027
Dragon = nobody blue collar from Goa
Waifu = defected CD
Romance happens, shit ensues because dumb family reasons, shit goes awry, Waifu dies/is separated/whatever just as she gave birth, Dragon swears to change stuff

Only thing left to figure out is how Luffy's first days of life went and why Dragon left him in Fuusha
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>>153368042
>Garp fucking Croco
Please, God, no. I'd rather see him fuck Daddan than Crocodile.
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>>153368042
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>There are people naive enough to think Luffy's mom will be nobody special

That "D" came from somewhere and it wasn't dad
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>>153368132
It literally was his dad.
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>>153368086
If luffys mother was a CD, why would she be in Foosha to give birth to luffy?
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>>153368132
>and it wasn't dad
except it was?
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>>153368132
It's from his dad, man.
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>>153368132
>Monkey D. Dragon
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>>153368132
I'm pretty sure his dad has a D dude bees and flowers and all that
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>>153368132
this is a story about the romance of men
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>>153368153
If Doffy's parents were CDs, why did they live in some run down house in the outskirts?
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>>153367712
>diamonds are hard but brittle
>implying Mihawk can't cut diamond
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>>153368153
Ds are said to bring an end to CDs and thus she was exiled from Mariejois after taking the Monkey D.
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>>153368132
Forget others being naive, you are one stupid sonofabitch, anon. Holy shit.
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>>153368186
Didn't his dad just want to live in a normal house
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>>153368236
his dad was a literal retard
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Cucks who can't think for themselves really believe this

Hilarious.

Go do whatever your local bureaucratic den decided is right for you this week.
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>>153368132
Still waiting for that DNA test
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Akainu is tough, but fair. There is reason to his madness, unlike pirates who just act in whichever manner benefits them the most.
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>>153368295
Cause he didn't wanted to support evil stupid dickhead and actually try to live and raise his children as normal people ? Fucking namefag
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If Shanks is so great why did he lose his arm to some shitty sea monster?
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>>153368365
Wasn't he drinking a lot on that day?
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>>153367863
>There would be no anger behind their fighting, no bloodlust or adrenaline, they're pretty much friends by this point
You said that like it's a bad thing
An intense duel between two masters of an art, in the sole purpose of deciding who is the best, each master having his own reason pushing them against each other
It's grandiose
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>>153368341
He could have used all of his wealth and power for good AND raise them as normal people. He could have literally bought a town. supported all of the people in that kingdom and then have his kids growing up without knowing they were still celestials. And then after they get all of the morals and ethics of hard work and labor they could go back to being celestial dragons or choose to stay being normal.
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>>153368365
You mean, why did he only lose his arm? He did survive being a source of inspiration in a One Piece flashback.
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>>153368305
who's the daddy?
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>>153367249
>The power of the One Piece, therefore, may be the power to connect all things, in all places, with all people across time and space.
t-the power of friendship?
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>>153368482
The Internet, dumbass.
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>>153368448

Me, makino is perfect
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You can go sail the seas with THREE One Piece characters who died in flashbacks related to the Strawhat's crew.

Choose carefully.

>Bellemere
>Tom
>Jaguar D. Saul
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>>153368448
Gee I wonder.
Also $20 says that's the next pirate king.
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>>153368570
Blackbeard
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>>153368570
Tom, Fisher Tiger, Kuina.
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>>153368438
You seems to assume he was not raised into a litteral safe space. That his point, he was not aware of how his compatriot where doing hardcore shit and how people hate them with all their guts.
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>>153368593
wasn't he on the other end of the world during that time?
and shouldn't the baby have red-hair if it was him?
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>>153367034
>Raftel
>Rough tale
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Linlin is a midget giant
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>>153368730
Only Shanks' red hair is coloured in the manga, iirc. Kidd, Rockstar, Ichiji, Caligula or whatever his name was, all had "white" hair.
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Bobbin The Fixer will save this arc.
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Why was Ace such an emo faggot? I mean what kind of cuck hates on his dead father just because some fodder people hate him too?
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>>153368981
He was literally struck by THE DARKNESS
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>>153368730
>wasn't he on the other end of the world during that time?
It was during the 2 years time skip. He could be anywhere he wants.
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>>153368981
Ace has down syndrome and gets by with an OP fruit. This was confirmed when he was a new world commander who couldn't even harm fucking pre timeskip Smoker.
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>>153368448
Shanks went by for a quick in and out.
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>>153369076
>implying Smoker is a pushover

That Jutte alone cucks like half the cast.
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>>153369101
he probably swam, with one missing arm, all the way, only to get laid
that's how badass he is
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>>153369131
>Smokest
>Not a jobber

He might've stood a chance against Luffy before the timeskip because Luffy didn't know Haki, but now that he trained CoO no way he'll fall for it.

His logia is shit and even Sanji could defeat him.
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>Blackbeard and his crew effortlessly killed Whitebeard, destroyed Whitebeard's crew, destroyed the Revolutionaries and became a Yonkou
>Instantly solo:ed by Magellan

2017, still fucking unbeatable
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>>153369301
>Implying you wouldn't swim across the 8 seas to make love to Makino for the sole purpose of procreation.
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>>153369388
Well, no, cause they beat the shit out of him before leaving Impel Down.
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>>153368777
RAFTEL
WOO-OO!
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>>153342037
Too bad the author is a mentally underaged luffyfag.

I can already see what he will do through his lazy writing: create unrelated personality defects to justify him being a villain, just like he had to do so with Doflamingo when people started liking him for not taking shit of others.

Oh, he already did it. Had Akainu killing onnocents "just 'cause" while twisting his curling moustache because he can't go into nuanced characters. No gray zones, like his art style.
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>>153363336
>>153364216
They really went in with the Nami fanservice this episode.
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>>153367404
It doesn't exist. Yet. Until Luffy uses One Piece to destroy the crossing point of Grand Line and Red Line, merging the four oceans there.
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>>153368951
You mean he will... fix it?
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>>153369463
With the help of Shiryuu and level sixers.
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>>153369714
Sanji's dream is really shitty, come to think of it. Wouldn't he rather want the girl of his dreams? Or that invisibility fruit?
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>>153343569
Prime Gol D = Prime Garp = Prime WB = Prime Shiki > Prime Sengoku > Prime Rayleigh > Kaido > Shanks > BB
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>>153369714
Sanji is getting gayer and gayer for every passing second.
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>>153369882
>Prime Gol D = Prime Garp = Prime WB
lol

he was the motherfucking king you dolt
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>>153369882
>>153369920
>didn't even defeat Big Mom
Roger was weak.
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>>153369920
Riku was a king too. He's weak as fuck.
Usopp is a God, still weak as fuck.
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>>153369388
>Destroyed the Revolutionaries

The revolutionaries escape before his arrival.
>>
not that bad of an episode tb.h
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>>153369388
How do you even defend against Magellan? Be a Logia?
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>>153370244
They had to spend a good five minutes dragging out Zunisha's treatment to the nth degree though of course
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>>153359712
T. Ahmed
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>>153369753
Yeah. His crew. You brought up Teach's crew against Whitebeard and the Revolutionaries. Don't conveniently ignore them against Magellan.
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>>153369882
>Prime Roger = Prime Garp

Then you'd think Garp would have at least captured him once.

It's practically the same shit as Smoker and Luffy, one is convinced he's the other's """"""""rival""""""" but is barely in the same league.
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>>153370297
Not a terrible concept, but man was that a painful execution.

>Oh no, it's a storm that comes out of nowhere and destroys everything in its path and is too fast also only Nami can see it
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>>153364216
>it's another EU fag is a lunafag episode
A white women won't end up with a shit skin you fucking spic
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>go to sleep
>wake up
>a bunch of ahmeds fill the thread with anti Akainu
>also lunafag
Sad!
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>>153370297
They must do that if they don't want to catch up with the manga.
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>>153369463


Where was it stated? I don't think the beat him, they just run away.
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Akainu's coup against the world government when?
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>>153370830
I think it was stated to Sengoku after Marineford that Magellan was all fucked up.
Luffy just stalled his final form for a second or two right a the end so they could escape.
All fucked up strongly implies the BBs.

I believe it went on to say that Magellan was suicidal over his failure but Sengoku told him to harden the fuck up and not kill himself.
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>>153370879
Akainu's hatred for pirates is probably greater than that for the government.
He even called out the Gorousei for being Celestial Dragon's lapdogs.

I don't know why any really strong person takes the Dragon's shit though.
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>>153370830
This was my reference and I think Teach said something about Magellan to Sengoku but I might be making that up.

Also, it's possible that the people who defeated Magellan could be other Level 6 prisoners but seeing as how Teach and his crew had the antidote s well as Shiliew, who is supposedly as strong as Magellan, it seemed likely that it was them that defeated the Warden.
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>>153371021
Who the fuck's the guy talking to Sengoku anyway? He always shows up in the Marine Headquarters scenes but I never remember exactly what's his role in it.
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>>153343692
or he retired after timeskip
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>>153371118
His name is Brannew
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>>153371118
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Brannew
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>>153344747
this pretty much
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>>153371187
If he did who replaced him?
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>>153371244
I did
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>>153370362
My issue was more with the Mink doctor rambling endlessly

>>153370504
Oh please, there are a bunch of ways they could animate it to keep it from catching up while keeping it weakly. This is just typical of the anime now.
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>>153370830
>>153371021
In one of the post timeskip cover series it shows Magellan with one of his wings patched up as well
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>>153371319
>Oh please, there are a bunch of ways they could animate it to keep it from catching up while keeping it weakly

>Animate some of the timeskip training
>Animate the cover stories
>Animate some of the supernova's adventures

All my money...and yet they chose not to.
Fuckers.
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>>153371364
His horn and face is messed up as well.
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>>153371319
*weekly

>>153371392
They must have little confidence in the cover stories getting viewership

Disappointing because the Coby and Helmeppo episodes from way back are alright and probably one of the few times I enjoyed seeing him. It also has Garp shenanigans which are fun.

They could squeeze an episode out of Caribou's arc and I'd look forward to it even not caring for the character. Jinbe's would probably be a little dry though.
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>>153367034
GODA
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>>153371546
Stop
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>>153371512
>Wholecake
>Reverie
>Wano

I don't see a lot of opportunity for Coby to show up here.

What arcs will come after the above three?
Vegapunk
Elbaf
Meeting motherfucking Shanks?
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>>153368448
my peanus weanus
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>>153368593
That will be hammocks and Luffy's kid
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>>153369365
>sanji could defeat him
>smoker and ace canceled each other out on alabasta
>sanjis biggest power is his diable jambe, flame leg
>diable jamble canceled by smokers smoke
>sanji gets corkscrew ass punched by jitte
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>>153370295
carry candles around
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>>153370295
Have a dozen reasonably strong people, half of which carry resistance to his poison
They likely just overpowered with the blatant advantage they had
Magellan is honestly one of the most threatening people in the series for sure
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So D stands for Devil right?
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>>153372004
No, for downie
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>>153370295
Or just have a DF that will let you block his attacks (like Barto's or Pica's).
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What's to stop the SH from just making a run for it now?
Supposing Luffy rationalizes the threat to Zeff by saying "Those cooks are actually pretty strong".
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>>153372004
Yes. Their souls were harvested and put into Devil Fruits.
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Is there a Davy Jones in the OPverse?
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>>153372555
Spoilers, jackass
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>>153372321
No
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>"But you should all know that Teach is a little different! The very structure of his body... is strange!"

- Marco the Phoenix

Marshall D. Teach suffers from Chimerism, either natural or from laboratory.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)
>A genetic chimerism or chimera (also spelled chimaera) is a single organism composed of cells from different zygotes
>The existence of chimerism is problematic for DNA testing, a fact with implications for family and criminal law

Basically, people with chimerism coexist with 2 DNAs: one which is their own and one from a twin that died during pregnancy (on the very first stages) whose cells have been incorporated by the fetus still alive. Those kind of persons might have their saliva with DNA 1, thei sperm with DNA 2, Hair with DNA 1 etc.etc.

Devil fruits are DNA bound. This is why Teach can have 2 fruits.
Don't believe me? Why the yami yami no mi is a Logia that makes their eaters become "darkness humans"... but we never see Teach dematerialize himself?
Every other logia does it easly, but instead Teach always cash shots instead. Isn't it a bit strange?
The explaination is that the fruit couldn't make him a full user due to the presence of a second DNA taking parts of his body, thus making him unable to dematerialize himself, but at the same time giving him the chance to host two fruits.
This could either be natural chimerism or laboratory made one... hello Vegapunk! Because it would be hard for a person to understand this condition without scientific support. Also, it's like Blackbeard is aware of the condition but didn't know if the 2 devil fruit thing could work, that's why he told the crew he might have died before Marinefort (see, Shiryu of the rain "If this doesn't work, we're disbanded/fucked, right?").
You've known this here first and screencap this.
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>>153372691
>Don't believe me? Why the yami yami no mi is a Logia that makes their eaters become "darkness humans"... but we never see Teach dematerialize himself?
The way he mentions it, it's the fruit itself that work that way.

Plus how the fuck would Marco knows about Teach's chimerism? It's not exactly a visible disease.
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>>153372691
No.
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>>153372691
>hello Vegapunk!
You may be onto something, given Judge's history with Vegapunk and that "blueprint of life" thing.
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>>153372691
>Don't believe me? Why the yami yami no mi is a Logia that makes their eaters become "darkness humans"... but we never see Teach dematerialize himself?
He can't turn into darkness during the day.
Same as how Crocodile can't turn into sand when wet.

This is why he used the curtain to take WB's fruit.
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>>153372832
>blueprint of life

It's DNA...
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>>153372691
Nigga
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>>153372837
So, he is unbeatable at night unless fighting Kizaru?
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>>153372882
Or until Vegapunk invents a flashlight
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>>153372882
Well he could still be hit with haki like any other logia.
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>>153372882
Darkness burns hotter than light
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>>153372691
Maybe
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new thread
>>153373025
>>153373025
>>153373025
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>>153371011
the same goes to Garp
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>>153372771
I think he would know (the WB crew high ranks would know, actually, since he said "you should all know") because it's actually an experiment of sort and he was saved/picked up by the WB pirates.
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>>153368132
...Shit. I just noticed tht One Piece is just another one of those special bloodlines power crap instead of hard work
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>>153368482
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>>153342266
he arleady is
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