Why don't you believe this could happen /a/? It would work

>>153201778
fake and gay

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But what about THIS?

>>153201778
fake

>>153202983
I believe it

>>153201778
That's not how you use katana anyway.
Katana wasnt made for bashing. It was made for fast cut. That's why it's harder to learn. Because you need mastery to precisely cut unprotected joints.

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Why don't you believe this could happen /a/? It would work at the right speed and angle.

>>153201778

A thicker, heavier sword more suited to direct impact works comes off better in a direct impact with a lighter, thinner sword not designed for direct impacts.

Next lets fire an airgun at an antitank gun, then an antitank gun at an airgun, in order to prove the superiority of an antitank gun.

>>153201760
I'm a swordsmith, metallurgist and martial artist. It wouldn't work ever.

>>153203013
This,
And its blade takes longer to study.

>>153201778
A big, heavy sword is better at bashing than a small, light sword.

Who would have thought?

You're not supposed to use swords like katanas like that you fucking moron. They're slicing swords to be used against lightly armored targets, of fucking course they break when you hit another sword like that.

>>153202983
Stick win everytime

>>153203445
Kek

>>153203144
>>153203408
>thicker, heavier sword
>medieval longsword and katana are about equal in weight at 1.1-1.2 kg
Weebs get out

>>153203445
i was there for that
good times

>>153203511
This. Generally western swords with the same length are either just as heavy or lighter than katanas. Katanas are retardedly thick.

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>>153203563

>>153203055
>their commander even had katana

Fuck off, /k/.

>>153201760
>filename not "guaranteed replies"

You blew it

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>>153203013
>>153203144
>>153203408

>prove OPs scenario wrong
>"uhm that's not how you use a katana anyways..."

No shit, you fucking faggots, what OP said is still wrong.

>>153203621
No

>>153203635
Are really this stupid?
Try to reread all the posts you illiterate dumbfuck

>>153203563
>Katanas are retardedly thick.

Only at the spine. That's not thick, that's thicc.

>>153203055
Glorious Nippon arrowheads folded over a thousand times.

Baka gaijin go home.

>>153203635
Are you actually retarded? No one said OP was right. Both the scenario OP depicted and the way it was "proven wrong" are dumb as hell.

>right speed
Mach 20? I bet even your fat mother would destroy a sword if she was flung at that speed at it.

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>>153204207

>>153203013
The longsword wasn't made for bashing either. It was for cutting unprotected openings as well

>>153204882
This. It's like a longsword was used like a length of lead pipe

>>153205116
*It's not

>>153203144
>lighter, thinner sword
Pro-tip: katana have quite heavy, bulky blades, which is a consequence of their manner of construction.

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>>153204207
What do we have here?

>>153203584
Didn't even bother to unsheathe, in case some faggy chopper got close enough to taste glorious iaido. What a champ.

>>153205665
This would be cooler if he didn't look like the dude from Lost.

>>153201760
slanted angle

yeah, I think the armor on the T38 in WWII proved that is at an angle, there is more metal to get through, thus harder to do.

>>153203013
>katana wasn't made for bashing
I know you're probably baiting, but seriously? You do realize slashing cuts with a long sword are useless when you're fighting an armored foe, right? I'd imagine this was especially problematic in Japan since their armor was cheaper to produce. So katana were totally used as blunt bashing weapons to knock people off balance and likely rarely used for slashing because what sane footsoldier wouldn't be wearing some form of armor?

Towards the end of medieval combat everyone used polearms with a pointed hammer to penetrate armor because swords would just bounce off unless you caught your opponent from a really weird angle or knocked them down.

>>153205741
It would be cooler if he wasn't a fat neckbeard and had a proper setup for sword practice instead of hitting water jugs off of a box balancing on a garbage can. I mean look at all the water he's wasting, dying Californians could have drank that!

>>153203055
Explosive arrows could actually fuck up a helicopter if the pilot was so dimb as to fly low enough to get hit by them. Regular arrows would just bounce off of any armored vehicle or get shredded by the propeller blades.

>>153205810
Are they still in a drought?

>>153201760
high quality folded steel vs low quality iron?
*shrug* probably

>>153205810
Would a french skeletton trap, with a longsword be alright?

Why all the Katana hate, /a/? I thought you all a unironic weebs?

>>153205887
well iron and still are different. I heard japanes iron is shit, thus why they fold the steal, and use TONs of coal

>>153202983
AOTY 2016 in my book and that reveal was so good.

>>153205968
This might surprise you, but 4chan at the beginning was a lot more self-aware.

>>153205935
That'd be pretty cool actually, like Utena but somehow gayer. As long as you're cutting things besides water jugs from the top of a trash can.

Back Sword>Saber>Rapier>>Side Sword>>>Longsword>>>>>>>>>>>>Stick>>>>>>power gap>>>>>>>>>>Katana.

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>>153205968

>2017
>some people still get buttblasted when presented with the fact that their Japanese sword is inferior to a long sword

>>153206026
>>153206049
>I like Katana before it was cool
So basically this?

>>153205968
/a/ is the least weeb anime discussion platform in the western world. Remember that weeaboo is intended to describe people who are obsessed with Japanese culture and wish they were Japanese, like Ken-sama. People who are obsessed with anime and manga but don't worship Japanese culture as a whole are just anime people (or anime otaku if you want to sound like a fag).

>>153206026
Well I don't have much to cut so I guess I'll just pose or something.

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>katana threads

>>153206034
Unloaded rifle with a bayonet >>>>> Katana

Fighting armored foes with a slashing weapon is just retardation.

>>153206083
>Remember that weeaboo is intended to describe people who are obsessed with Japanese culture and wish they were Japanese, like Ken-sama.
Nowadays everything gets called "weeaboo" (or worse, "weeb").

>>153206118
Too bad you can't make gun fights look cool unless you pull some cowboy bullshit.

>>153206122
I know, the internet has fucked up the meaning of quite a few words through communities using them ironically. I try my best to make sure they don't get fucked up even further, seeing mainstream media refer to image macros as memes is just horrible.

>>153206083
>/a/ is the least weeb anime discussion platform in the western world.
Why?

>>153206147
Dunno about you but I'd rather look lame than be dead.

>>153206172
Because people here intentionally seperate anime culture from Japanese culture while other communities see anime and Japan as intertwined.

>>153206166
Basically this
>DUDE KEKK XD
>LOL WAT A WEEBB AMIRITE?
>LOOK AT THESE 3D PEE DEE NORMIES

>>153203055
that webm is so fucking stupid

fitting filename

not that these threads are anything but idiots trolling each other and even worse idiots arguing seriously

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>>153206172
I don't agree with that now but in the past worshipping Japan here would get you ridiculed.

Ironically making bad posts killed self-awareness.

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>>153203055
>Not naming this webm Civilization 5

>>153206296
It made self awareness spike until the whole effect of idiots feeling at home happened and then people were less scared of 4chan because they took shitposting seriously.

>>153205968
>weeb
Fuck off back to /r/anime.

>>153203055
the fuck?

>>153208250
Boku no Katana

>>153205770
>Towards the end of medieval combat everyone used polearms with a pointed hammer to penetrate armor because swords would just bounce off unless you caught your opponent from a really weird angle or knocked them down.

Thats just western medieval combat. Japan still had a lot of people with shit armor.

>>153207242
You're a darn hater katana a cut through tanks all the time in WWII

>>153201778
> Sword literally sitting across a solid platform
> Why can't I bash through the platform and sword?!?!?!

>>153208314

"My katana?" really?

>>153202983
> TFW Newgame+++++

>>153208524
Yeah, the creators aren't exactly creative when it comes to naming

No one understand my grandpa fought in WWII in Japan and had his katana on his zero fitter to fight other pilots. They are legendary swords that destroy anything.

Why do you think Game of Thrones is bad? There are no katanas to defeat everyone and George doesn't understand good swords that make heros.

>>153208666
Nah, nips are terrible when it comes to names. I mean just look at all those LN adaptions.

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>>153208666

>>153201760
Is this the anime where the main heroine got molested by and enunuch?

>>153208710
I googled it, what the REAL name smarty pants?

>>153205810
*could have drunk

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>>153208830

>>153208830
You're so cute, anon.
First week here?

>>153203013

I am unclear on how you define the proper usage of a Katana. The chemical and structural properties of the sword's construction don't change depending on how you use it. Katanas were designed to be what they are because they didn't need to be anything else.

Japs didn't have access to shitloads of iron. The iron they do have is pretty shitty due to the fact that the iron ore found under Japan has a poor composition for alloy-making and there's not very much of it. Peasants didn't even own swords, and smart samurai fought on horseback with spears or bows, so it's not like these weapons received a lot of abuse.

>>153205770

>Towards the end of medieval combat everyone used polearms with a pointed hammer to penetrate armor

Either that or they beat the living fuck out of you with a big metal club. That was thanks to the fact that Europeans had lots of great steel to work with. European plate would stop a katana no problem because it's build to take broadswords head on. Japanese had to work with armor plates made out of lacquered wood and lamellar segments. Jap armor technology never got advanced enough to warrant late medieval era weaponry.

Also let's not forget that the katana, or the daisho it's a part of, is a ceremonial weapon. A lot of samurai chose spears, poleaxes, and war clubs as more practical weapons while the katana was a sidearm.

>>153201760
>MAGIC beats a slab of iron
>>153203055
>MAGIC beats a sheet of armour

Are all you fuckers so new to fantasy stories in general? I can't contain the contempt I feel.

>>153205665
I can't tell if he meant to hit it on the upswing or he just clumsily bumped into it.

@153205661
Sorry, pal, the whole /a/ is new as shit. And the bait is pretty stale at this point.

>>153208830
Anon, it took me literally 5 seconds in google to find the anime just with OP's pic

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guys lets be real here

guy with gun>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>130lb nip with sharp metal stick

>>153205868
Explosive arrows are fucking weak in real life
i doubt it could bring down a fucking helicopter

If you made a katana out of a dense enough metal, could it break a broadsword?

>>153209258
What if you made it out of diamond?

>>153209258

That's like asking "If I make the Broadsword out of Copper could the Katana break it?"

The answer is "obviously."

>>153209258
Yeah, it's called Emiya Shirou.

>>153208957
Anons are all about muh realism though.

>>153209344
>diamond
Needs to be diamond per wall at least.

>>153209589
In a fucking fantasy anime? Tough luck.

>>153209213
What about explosive arrows coated in thermite?

>>153209258
If I make a gun that shoots bullets in a linear trajectory at 2km/hr can I cut them out of the air with a katana?

>>153209652
>it's okay to throw all logic and coherency out of the window because muh magic
Fuck off

>>153209899
If you can make a gun that shoots bullets in a linear trajectory, you're a fucking wizard.

>>153209258
Katana are already very dense and hard due to the numbers of layers are folded into them during their creation.

The real problem here is twofold. First, Katana are not used by bashing it against something and pushing the blade through with force. That's more like how an axe works and you will quickly blunt or break a katana using it like that. Katana are a slashing and thrusting weapon. To properly cut with one there is a specific way of swinging it to draw the edge against what you are attacking. This slices it open like a scalpel but doesn't work well against armored or hard targets for obvious reasons.

Second is that Japanese iron and steel were awful. The iron they had to work with was low quality and they never advanced beyond one of the oldest and shitiest methods of making steel blades, folding. Yes, folding is nothing special, pretty much every country that figured out how to make steel figured out the folding method, some even before Japan did. Europe just advanced further and learned better methods of making steel along with their higher quality and quantities of steel.

For what its designed to do the katana is actually beautifully designed, but Japan was shit when it came to producing steel.

>>153209940
Read the comment chain. Introducing magic arrows/swords is hardly "throwing all logic and coherency out of the window".

>>153209940
>magic
>literally the opposite of common sense and established rules
>b-but much logic!
Disembowel yourself.

>>153208957
Then that magic should be somehow visually represented.

>>153209344
What if a katana made of diamond hits a broadsword made of diamond?

>>153210015
It's clearly stated in the show, not every magic item has to be glowing pink so retards like you who never watched a show and only come to a thread toshitpost can understand it.

>>153209871
Short answer: no
Long answer: shit surface area = shit thermite

>>153210153
>Long answer
tl:dr

>>153210012
>you don't need any kind of sense or logic when magic is introduced
End your life, those are the worst fantasy settings for a reason

>>153209871
Thermite in that little volume cant do shit
and Thermite require a very hot temperature
to make it ignited.

>>153205665
fat dude with good edge alignment.

>>153205770
Japan never really got into plate.

That being said, they also really only used the katana during times of peace as a sidearm, Samurai were spearmen and bowmen for the most part.

>>153210372
I assumed laquer was cheaper to produce than plate anyways, and while it would have more weak spots you'd still be hard pressed to slash through a block of reinforced wood.

>>153210258
Are you fucking retarded? They're respectively a katana cutting through a sword and arrows penetrating chopper armor.
Strengthening magic is present in pretty much every setting with magic.

>>153210442
Well like I said, Katana like most swords were sidearms, if you were down to using a katana, you were already up shit creek because you've lost your yari, and all those samurai looking to turn you into a pincushion still have theirs.

>>153202983
I should really watch this one of these days.

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>>153201778
Katanafags forcefully and eternally BTFO

>>153203013
they have a fucking kendo practitioner do that shit

>>153205887
>>153205968
>>153206172
>>153208250
>>153208524
>>153208666
>>153208830
Neck yourself newfag.

Why are there so many western armor/sword fags on 4chan? Why are they the easiest to get replies from? All you have to do is post pictures containing katanas and they sperg out.

>>153210858
Mordhau > gay japanese styles

>>153201778
I've seen both versions of this and they're both fucking useless because we don't know anything about either sword other than what shape they are, we don't know the materials, the tempering, how sharp they are, etc.

It's also a flat out unfair comparison, katanas are a much older design than a longsword, of course it's going to compare unfavourably. there's like a 400 year gap between them.

If the katana is guilty of anything, it's being a symbol of conservatism because the design stayed the same for like, twelve hundred years while everyone else was updating their shit.

>>153210935
well sure, no one actually hates katanas
the point is that many weebs think katanas are the bestest (despite known technological advantages) and /a/ loves proving them wrong

>>153210998
>many weebs think katanas are the bestest
All I'm seeing is ironic shitposting.

>>153210998
Last time I actually saw anyone claim katanas are the best non-ironically was in last decade.
It's like atheists fighting imaginary christians that are attacking them.

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>>153211520
>imaginary christians
Thou art clearly mistaken, preposterous knave. We are here, and we are ready to take back the Holy city, mind you.

>>153210908
I don't even give a shit about swords, katanas or otherwise. I don't understand why swordfags are so autistic

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>>153210935
>I've seen both versions of this and they're both fucking useless because we don't know anything about either sword other than what shape they are, we don't know the materials, the tempering, how sharp they are, etc.
Except we do because there are quite a lot of old texts and stuff about both european and japanese swords
>It's also a flat out unfair comparison, katanas are a much older design than a longsword, of course it's going to compare unfavourably. there's like a 400 year gap between them.
You are aware that most "medieval longswords" staem from the 12th to 14th century while katanas in their current, popular form are from the 17th century, right?

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>>153210935
>because the design stayed the same for like, twelve hundred years while everyone else was updating their shit.

>>153212055
>there are quite a lot of old texts and stuff about both european and japanese swords
What does that have to do with those swords in the gif? They could be solid aluminum made in Spain 10 years ago for all we know. That's what anon was saying. Learn to English.

>>153212276
Yeah, ignore that part, my brain stopped working for a bit

>a fake replica does this much damage
>not even a real katana
>not even a modern katana made with superior metal

http://knowledgeglue.com/man-uses-katana-stop-home-invasion-gory-aftermath-nsfw/

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>>153212466
>hit unprotected dudes with 30 inches of sharpened metal
>it does a lot of damage
Truly, my mind is blown

>>153212466
This is precisely why I kept the sword I inherited from my grandpa. Still in my bedroom closet, easily accessible.

>>153212276
The guy who did the testing made them both using appropriate swordsmithing techniques for each sword. Other cutting tests were done with both swords where they both performed very similarly, so the last test was durability test.
Search for "Welt der Wunder" if you know German or believe hard enough that you do.

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>>153209258
No because a katana is made for slashing less protected spots.
It needs to be sharp not hard.

Fuck off /k/. I bet you guys lost your virginity in middle school. You've nothing to do with animefigs like us

>>153203013

Specifically katanas were made for light whacking motions against soldiers wearing cheap laquer armor. You raise the sword at chest level and repeatedly flick down on their necks and heads.

>>153209108
why's the bayonet knife so long?

>>153213393
it was the style of the time, most GIs who actually had to use them realized that a smaller bayonet was more useful and complained often, henceforth later style bayonets were much shorter.

>>153201778
fpbp

>>153203055
>heli tries to dodge arrows