The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Fans

Why does she smile like that?

LN author ran out of ideas and stopped giving a fuck

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>>153192026
Cuz she smug af

>>153191609
>forgotten
mate it's still one of the most popular anime out there easily

>>153192876
Most new watchers don't even know what this show is or have even heard of endless eight senpai. Show's forgotten.

>>153191609
4 words:

Everyone except the basist

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>>153192993
This.

>Haruhi is forgotten
Faggot even normalfags recognize that bitch and her hair ties even if they have no idea where she's from.
It's the same shit with Konata and Nagisa and probably Umaru at this point

>>153192902
By your logic, NGE is forgotten because new anime fans haven't watched it.

>>153191609
The industry moves at a very fast pace now. Every year there is a show or two that dominates the discussion until the next big thing comes along. At this rate, every show gets forgotten sooner or latter unless it gets a strong fanbase.

Haruhi was an incredibly big thing at the time, but most of the fanbase got frustrated of waiting for new novels or anime and moved on with their lives. Now it's just a pleasant memory of what a good time we had with them.

>>153193406
NGE is also the most selling anime of all time and actually has had recent material.

>>153193543
It doesn't change what I said. People would remember NGE with or without the rebuilds

>>153191609
Fuck off, oldfag.

>>153191609
TAHKEY

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>you'll never make a shitty advertisement for your school's Anime Club that features you and your hambeast friend doing the dance from the ending credits.

>>153193737
Oh god don't remind me of that video. Even the memory of watching it is a stain that I can only hope Alzheimers will burn away

>>153191609
Because, except for the movie, the series weren't that good, It's just nostalgiafags and oldfags overhyping shit.
I had high expectation for Haruhi, I was dissapointed.

>>153193889
disappointed*

Because of that dumbass endless eight arc. Fuck that.

>>153191609

It ran out of worthwhile light novel source material.

And Second Season, Endless Eight especially, dampened enthusiasm.

Most folks consider Disappearance to be the worthy capstone of the series, and aren't expecting more.

But I think people still think of Season 1 as one of the classics from the 2000s. Apart from twelve year olds, or whatever.

>>153191609
Poor handling of season 2?

>>153191609
Because Tanigawa will never release another book as long as he lives.

>>153194110
Endless eight was one of the most meaningful, painful, and important parts of the series. Just about everything that involves Yuki after that point makes me want to just give her a hug, and let her know everything will be alright.

>>153195732
Endless eight arc should have been 3 or 4 episodes.

>>153191609
>to just another forgotten anime from pre 2010
i have a fake facebook account and i posted about haruhi once and almost no one knew what it was

>>153195732
Just because it's good doesn't mean it didn't kill the show. The fanbase is dead after the 09 season, and it's not going to come back.

>>153191609
Saying Haruhi is "just another forgotten anime" is ignorant as fuck.

>>153192026
because she owns your ass, and there is nothing you can do about it

>>153192993
aya being a slut didn't make the author become a lazy faggot

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Haruhi a cute!
A CUTE!

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>>153191609

How many more will you be making this week?

Endless Eight was incredibly ballsy and incredibly stupid.

I really liked S1 back then, I dropped it at the 4th Endless Eight episode and only came back to it years later.

>>153192026
Maybe her mouth hurts

>>153191609
> just another forgotten anime from pre 2010
You're retarded if you actually think that. It's still very popular and famous by most standards, and people sperg out every time there's any hint of activity. It's not as huge as it once was, like the majority of hits from more than a few years ago. SEED literally only comes up to get shat on, for example. Not even hambeasts care about Inuyasha anymore. Nadesico is basically irrelevant nowadays despite being the second-best-selling TV anime of the 20th century. Things change with time.

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>>153191609
This is a really good troll to elicit so many responses from different parts of your post. This is an adept level troll post. Good job, good sir.

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> I'm the only one who agrees that it feels like nobody cares about this anime any more

>>153193737
link it and i'll see if ur right

>>153192026
Because God can do whatever she wants.

I remember this series being forced down my throat in the early days. I'm glad it's gotten lost in the sands of time.

>>153191609
>biggest cultural phenomenons in anime history

it wasnt, you were just a weeaboo and this was heavily marketed to the west for its time so it felt that way

>>153191609
endless 8, slut VA, stale story formula

The first intro for this anime makes me cry its so beautiful and reminds me of childhood in 2005.

haruhi is literally just babbys first exposure to a flavor of the month series like re:zero is today

Anime trends are fast as fuck now a days and there's just so much exposure to the medium now. I've met people recently that claim to be die hard anime fans either say they don't know or have only heard about big name shows like Haruhi, Madoka, Death Note, TTGL, and K-On. Of course these people are complete plebs, but these shows were so big at the time that there was no way any self respecting anime fan would not have seen them. Right now it's all about AoT and SAO and other stupid shit like that.

>153198225
It's the same with every decade. Ten years ago your list would have been Slayers, Record of Lodoss War, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, Escaflowne, and Utena, but there would still be people who hadn't seen them.

In ten years no one will know Space Dandy, Re: Zero, AoT, et cetera. Only a few shows survive into the next decade and become classics - Cowboy Bebop and Evangelion for the 90's, FMA:B and Code Geass for the 2000's, who knows for the 2010's yet.

No one will remember your favorites, or mine, except for small, dedicated groups that remember and rewatch periodically, like the Tenchi or Slayers fans. And that may be for the best.

8
also umaru is more recognizable than Haruhi at this point. get fucked

>>153191609
KyoAnus fans switched from enjoying harem to enjoying yuribait. If Phantom World was done immediately following Haruhi instead of Clannad, Phantom World would've sold 50k. Tumblr and nu-males were a mistake.

>>153191609
People realized it's shit.
Took them long enough

>>153191609
Just because it's not discussed about constantly, doesn't mean it's been forgotten. As good as it was, you have to move on, lest you become stubborn and closeminded about other shows.

>>153198869
So you didn't like it? That sucks. One thing I will admit is that Endless Eight - although awesome while it was coming out - doesn't really hold up to repeated viewings.

>>153198588
WITNESSED

Because the author hasn't written a goddamn thing for over half a decade.

>>153198033
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDFaNTr44lE
Not going to lie it's kind of endearing to see this genuine shit instead of the retards sperging out at a camera for attention nowadays.

>>153198225
>Right now it's all about AoT and SAO and other stupid shit like that

That was like 4 years ago. Now it's all about OPM and Rezero and jojo. Get with the times gramps.

>>153198955
He said something about not being able to write anymore, I think he just doesn't care because he's too busy having sex with hookers payed from pachinko monies.

>>153199063

I could see a writer's block becoming crippling. He was an amateur who just got lucky with Haruhi and managed to write enough to make a nice pile of money to live off of for awhile. How many LN authors even stay in the industry considering the stress churning out a novella every 4 months brings? There are a few guys who are god damn MACHINES at what they do, but it causes most to burn out or catch the deadly japanese cold and die of overwork.

Maybe he didn't really know how the audience would handle an actual major change hinted at with the impending event of Mikuru and Nyoron, and how that would destabilize the SOS Brigade. Could've been interesting to see how Haruhi's subconscious would cope with it. Maybe his editor-kun was an endless 8 and didn't want him to pull the trigger on advancing time.

OP is right between 10 modern anime fans (especially those who joined us after SAO and AoT) you will hardly find 2 or 3 who at least heard about haruhi let alone watched it

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>>153199294
My main issue with the story is that it never really "goes" anywhere, sure some dramatic things happen in the later books but it soon returns to status quo.

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>>153191609
Because all the bandwagon heathens jumped. Hope they never come back. They were never true believers to begin with..

>>153202427
>there was no recap episode
Why?

What is your favorite idea?

>>153202715
Making Someday in the Rain
Making Day of Sagittarius a space opera thing.

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>>153198101
This one?
same

>>153204165
Shit I just realized they used that same font for the Disappearance movie opening

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Left or right?

>>153204233
Same ost
Same opening song too
Same ost at the end except more orchestral to show Kyon accepted everything

fuck this movie was satisfying

It has been outdone by it's copycats, meaning there's very little point in watching the original. Stuff like Evangelion or Madoka haven't been outdone in their own genres yet.

>>153204257
Haruhi, always

>>153204282
Which copycats have outdone it?

>>153191609
I honestly never got the popularity of this show, generic high school with some MAGIC in it is nothing special.

>>153198503
>Ghost in the Shell, Akira, Utena
These still carry cultural weight with them though.

>Free will get a new season before this will
What happened, anons?

>>153204309
Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko

>>153204310
>muh highschool setting
it's fucking well done and fits the themes so it's okay

>>153204357
What the fuck is that shit

>>153204320
I've heard about Utena a number of times, is it actually good or is it just a mix of nostalgia and yuri ?

>>153192107
spbp
LN era depends on having new LNs to sell, author gave the fuck up, no reason to create more anime to sell vapor LNs.
>>153192993
That didn't help, but the author was the real reason.

>>153204392
How new are you?

>>153204310
Kyon represents everything everyone ever wanted: adventures and mysterious and interesting world as it was seen when we were kids. Now we're all grown up, dragons don't exist, you'll never go to another planet, time travel doesn't exist, you'll never be able to fly like Arthur Dent or save the world and so on yet everyone secretly wants these things to be true.
This is what sold Melancholy to me desu

>>153204450
It was the Haruhi of its time apparently. So, the latter.

>>153204547
Oh please, Kyon was an insufferable faggot and a complete pain, definitely the worst thing to come out of this
He keeps whining, and complaining and being the no fun allowed guy every fucking time
The only, and only time he doesn't do this is when he gets the shit beaten out of him by himself in disappearance

>>153204310
>high school
>MAGIC

Those terms are too broad to make anything generic. The themes and characters are what set this show apart.

>>153204632
Why wouldn't you complain when an unsufferable girl forces you to do shameful stuff when you think you just want to fit in? Kyon's self conflict was one of the cores of the show, like, is following Haruhi really worth it? Why does he keep doing that? And Disappearance answers it.

>>153204632
Kyon is just Haruhi in denial. He could've walked off and Haruhi would've came to terms with the boring world, but he didn't.

>>153191609

There's been exactly one new book in the last ten years, and it was very late itself. And it was honestly one of the worst books in the series.

Worse, a pretty large faction of Haruhifags are, in reality, Yukifags. And Yuki has been pretty shortchanged in recent books. Author realized he was making her more appealing and have more interaction with Kyon than the titular character and reeled her in because we can't have nice things.

Yuki getting her own movie and animu is a sure sign that a side character has gotten much too popular, especially when she's not even supposed to be the primary romantic interest for the protagonist.

Anyway, my point is that between no new books, Yuki getting the short end, Endless Eight, and everyone but the bassist, people just lost interest.

>>153204731
>And it was honestly one of the worst books in the series.
Literally the second best.

>Worse, a pretty large faction of Haruhifags are, in reality, Yukifags
Shit taste at its finest.

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>>153204750
>Literally the second best.

>tfw I still don't watch this.

It's really a classic and worth to watch?

>>153204806
Yes. Only Disappearance is better (and not by much)

>>153204809
Depends what you mean by classic, it has lost relevance due to no sequels in the last few years. S1 creates controversy nowadays, movie is widely loved and makes the series worth watching whether you like S1 or not.

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>>153191609
Mikuru>Haruhi

>>153204693
Of course I would, excitement, hanging out with a Goddess, an esper, a time traveler, and an alien and doing crazy shit, while morphing reality, and having the time of my life would be a fantastic thing
>>153204697
Because he's an indecisive and boring little shit

2014 newfag here

I didn't really notice any good reason why I should watch this

most post I saw were how Haruhi is sexy

>>153204809
Depends on your tastes. Just try it.

>>153204887
my point
--------
your head

>>153204731
I really like the new Yuki more
Not that I don't like the old one, she was pretty badass and just rolled with all the insanity
New Yuki is really too cute though

>>153204889
>>153204893

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>>153204887
Haruhi also acts like a cunt from times to times and is high maintenance. There's legitimate reason why people wouldn't want to deal with her and ostracize themselves. The good sides eventually outdo the bad ones but Kyon complaining is justified.

>>153204889
The movie is a masterpiece. Try it. Or don't, whatever.

>>153204919

Not really sure who you mean by the 'new Yuki' because she's spent most of the later books (almost everything post Disappearance) on the sidelines, bed ridden while being brainfucked by one cosmic entity or another, chilling and just letting Endless Eight unfold, and not really living up to her old title of 'the only competent member of the group'.

>>153204450

Utena is my favourite anime, followed by Tezhnolyze.

It is genuinely very well written with outstanding art direction.

>>153204974
She's done too much stuff earlier and Kyon wants to take that burden away. She can't synchronize with her future selves anymore, for one.

>>153204952
>Haruhi also acts like a cunt from times to times and is high maintenance

A lot of people seem to take her personality too seriously. It's like watch The Three Stooges and bitching about Moe being a violent asshole.

>>153204809
Yeah, it's a classic. As for worth, I can only say that it's unique so far, like monogatari series for example.

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>>153204908
Kyon is just a boring character, he wants to be plain and normal as possible, that's as boring as you can get
>>153204952
Who cares?
Playing videogames or tabletop rpgs is also a lot of maintenance because you need to take care of your pc and of all the possibilities but that doesn't make it more fun, if anything it's more satisfying because you did it yourself
>>153204974
I mean pic related, the Yuki from the latest anime
That said my preference is very slim, but she's just so adorable and I need to protect and love her

>>153205056
>wooow how come this character doesn't want to have anything to do with a weirdo who pushes him into doing weird shit he wanted to outgrow
>like, how can somebody want to be normal? I don't

>>153205029
Finally someone who gets it. I like the scene where she robs the computer club of their computer because it's cartoonishly villainous. Her whole persona is exaggerated as fuck and Kyon is a whiny bitch (well until he stops later on)

>>153205029
While scenes like the computer steal aren't to be taken very seriously, she does have her bad moments at the beginning of the series when she's still immature. Melancholy 5/6 and Sighs come to mind. There's a lot of emphasis on her getting better, while Kyon is getting better in his own way by accepting her stuff more and more instead of hiding behind muh normie.

>>153205096
But he had proof
I can understand if she was just chuuni but she's not
She is a goddess, and the other guys aren't normal humans either
It's insane for him to be in a crazy situation like that and pretend everything is normal and nothing weird is even happening

>>153205056
>Dealing with girls is like videogames. It takes so much work, but if it's fun then you should just do it!
Wow, I can really tell that you had a wonderful time in highschool

>>153205152
>She is a goddess
More like an unstable capricious reality warper. Most people wouldn't want to get involved at first.

Kyon actually wants to get involved. He can't accept it, though.

>>153204937
>>153204952
ok downloading it now so I can shitpost if its bad

Disappearance of Nagato shows how weak Haruhi franchise without Kyoani really is.
Same characters, same seiyuu, same plot, but...
Really makes you think.

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>>153191609

>>153205194
I did, I didn't hang out with girls that much but I had tons of fun
>>153205199
So she's like a Greek Goddess?
Why can't he accept it, seriously first thing I would have done is immediately tell her and then see what happens
Maybe force Mikuru to spill the beans since she's the easiest to get to talk

>>153205285
>Same characters, same seiyuu, same plot
Literally no, no, and no

>>153205299
>I would have done is immediately tell her and then see what happens

I think in the LN Kyon tried but she blew him off

>>153205324
That's why you bring proof

>>153205299
>Why can't he accept it, seriously first thing I would have done is immediately tell her and then see what happens
But he actually did. She told him to fuck off.

>>153205324
He didn't even make an effort, it was in the anime too.

>>153205340
Aliens are worth nothing to Haruhi. What she likes is searching for them, preferably with her friends. Focusing on the supernatural itself is what made her unhappy for years.

>>153205152
She's an abnormality that fucking organizations with power over government, time, or the universe have constant conflict because they don't understand how she works.
It's a normal thing to stay out of trouble, it's an instinctual thing regardless of what you think you'll do in Kyon's position. Of course, curiousity and desire towards the mystery is the key motivation for Kyon in the story.

It's like you didn't even watch the show, or perhaps you were so focused on what you would've liked to do in Kyon's place, but that is irrelevant with the quality of the show or character.

>>153205345
You tell her and try to convince her
>>153205370
Then prove to her aliens exist and then hunt for them and try to find as many as there are
>>153205392
He's too halfhearted, he knows Haruhi cares about him, she wouldn't let anything happen to him, so what's there to be afraid of?

>>153205419
>Then prove to her aliens exist and then hunt for them and try to find as many as there are
But that's not the point. Knowing aliens exist and searching for them is pretty much the same as searching for fucking flowers. You lose the whole unknown and wonder aspects. Haruhi wants a reality where she can enjoy looking for the supernatural while knowing it doesn't exist, not for the supernatural to become reality.

>>153191609
Time crumbles things.
Everything grows old and is forgotten under the power of time.
t. CiV pro

>>153193889
Agreed, was really nothing special except the op

>>153205462
It already is a reality
And it's definitely not the same thing, it's like being a treasure hunter, just because you know it's real doesn't make it mundane

>>153205496
>It already is a reality
Not in Haruhi's perspective. That's the point. She's deeply rooted in reality.
You're mixing your chuuni fantasies and what you'd have done with the actual characters. The series isn't about masturbating to the existence of supernatural, which was established since ep 2.

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>>153205298
Kek.

>>153205496
The points is that Haruhi doesn't really want those things to exist. If she met one she would likely warp reality in order to restore the status quo.

>>153205531
I know it's not but you can't say Haruhi wouldn't be happier if she knew who her friends were
>>153205555
I highly doubt that, look at how she reacts in Disappearance

>>153205610
>I know it's not but you can't say Haruhi wouldn't be happier if she knew who her friends were
She wouldn't. She goes out of her way to deny the existence of supernatural. Finding it out so close to her would have absolutely no worth, that's why she was mad when Kyon told her about it. She might know about it on some level but deny it to not end the party.
Actually, she literally splits a timeline in two in order to keep in blissful ignorance.

>>153205555

Honestly the more I think about it the more I realize that Haruhi is a textbook sociopath.

She's manipulative, incapable of empathizing with other people, seems to lack any conscience (though she at least acts contrite when Kyon loses his shit, but I doubt it was sincere), acts without consideration of anyone, and constantly seeks enjoyment over everything else.

>>153205675
She thought it was a joke and Kyon was making fun of her

>>153205419
>She wouldn't let anything happen to him
What does this even mean? Sure, she would've kept him in her garden of Eden, and while that was certainly FOR Kyon, it wasn't something he truly wanted. Haruhi fucks shit up, and many who know about her power fears her, which is why they want to make contact in order to learn about her and possibly control Haruhi.
But that's not a motivation for him. Sure, he enjoys the SOS Brigade and his tangential relationship to some higher power, but at the end of the day he's a pretty average student with interesting friends. The story continues to make sure that he's always confirmed to be normal by other, credible characters. He desires the abnormal, but he's satisfied and happy with the normal.

It's the theme of the story. Hell, the last novels were about another girl with Haruhi's powers except that she desires the normal. Even Haruhi's powers are limited to things that she thinks could happen in the real world.

A lot of people hate Shinji and he is a faggot, but I think most of them would agree that it's for the purpose of the story, and things fit in right away.
I don't know how important is 'character acting like you would' on the list, but if Kyon just got it on with Haruhi, Kyon is no longer normal, and other members of SOS Dan would no longer be special, and story would just be some moe isekaishit(or reverse isekai?).

>>153205698
It's why she's so perfect

>>153205698
Did we watch the same anime? She's a bit like that at first but she gradually changes. By the end of the anime she's far from it.

>>153205716
I get what you're saying and I understand the point
But I still think Kyon was boring, if we're really going meta with this then it's supposed to be entertainment and Kyon simply isn't entertaining
I used to wonder if the series would have been better without Kyon and just Haruhi and the remaining members of the SOS brigade pulling weird shenanigans

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Can we all just agree that this is the final end of Haruhi?

>>153205791
Then you'd lose all the thematic value just because you'd want a witty supernatural loving self-insert instead of a human with legit interrogations and issues.

>>153205877
No.

>>153205898
It could be fun, who knows?

>>153205898
>>153205989
And besides, with no Kyon there is no self-insert
Koizumi isn't a proper self-insert even though he's fucking amazing

>>153205791
>If we're going meta with this
The whole show was meta because the story was about meta. The show was released out of order, the first episode is an animation of a amateur movie in an anime, there's a timeloop story that makes the viewers actually loop through the story(other timeloops only show the ones with the impact on the story).

Kyon by himself isn't entertaining at all, but his interaction with the other characters were the best parts about the show. You ARE to insert yourself into his shoes, and Kyon's constant monologues keeps things in realistic perspective of being constantly annoyed by things out of his control that critically impacts your life, and annoyed morally/ethically as well(if you remove the time traveling and humor, Mikuru is getting abused, mentally and physically).

Even the other members aren't doing that much better than Kyon. Koizumi fears and loves her, but he can only express it by ear worshipping her. Mikuru doesn't know what she is doing, and partially because of that she basically just gives up and leaves it to god(haruhi). And Nagato is a static observer who considered Haruhi and SOSDan as more of a phenomenon that needs to be studied without personal bias.
With their relationships with Haruhi, without Kyon these things would not have surfaced or developed in th story.

>>153206531
Man look at that pile of shit filled with errors. I need to go to sleep

>>153206531
But I can't self insert into Kyon if he's so annoying and unlikable
Mikuru doesn't get abused, it's just Haruhi being playful
Koizumi is a fun guy, he's just winging it and hope nothing bad happens, Mikuru just has no idea what she's even doing, and Nagato is the only person who's actually in control of herself and at times the situation
And they would have, it's not Kyon that makes Haruhi grope Mikuru, she does it because it's fun

>>153191609
Because of Aya's sex scandal. Also because the author is suffering from eternal writer's block.

>>153206670
That first one is bullshit, she did Haruhi in Turkey-chan. But yeah the second thing is pretty much it

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People are only going to remember this series for pachinko in a few years. New watchers don't even know what endless eight is.

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>>153206823
It's okay, lots of series are remembered for pachinko.

i really loved this show hope that maybe someday the writer will make another season.

>>153191609
It's what happens when you let the hype die down.

This isn't Star Wars, or Gundam where you can keep the hype going for centuries with sidestories and video games and shit. You make the series, and you keep that shit going until your done.

Instead of doing anything after the movie when they could have had everyone hooked, they just let it die down.

Endless Eight was a good idea in theory, but not really that great for anime viewers, especially when you KNOW that there's more interesting stories to throw money at. The only way Endless Eight would have been worth it if they extended the series by 7 more episodes.

>>153206994
The writer only has to write another book for a season 3 to be made. Literally only that

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>>153207029
He doesn't even have to write it. Just announce it. There's enough material for two more seasons already, and if there's more interest in the series then it'll be made.

>>153206660
These are all the things that are in the show, and maybe that in itself is fun, but Kyon is there to be the other side and shine light on different aspects of other characters.
Mikuru is stripped and molested by Haruhi, publically shamed in front of everyone she knows and even more strangers, and is sexually harrased for the purpose of theft. The show portrays it comically, but these are things people would be mad in irl about, and so does Kyon. But we get to see her another side of her through Kyon where she is without these things constantly pushing her down and humiliating her.
Nagato is in control, but she's merely acting as a medium for control for aliens. But when she slowly begins to humanize through Kyon, she loses all of the control of herself, her boss, and everyone around her.
Koizumi I don't remember too much, but only when he is with Kyon he shows jealousy, even though all other times he simply remains obedient and happy for the sake of his god.

And yes, Haruhi is fun and everyone desires her or at least what she stands for. But it's the opposite aspect present in the show that makes her even more lovable.
Fun is so rampant in the industry with all the isekai, SoL, and idolshit, and norm is also represented in its depressing extremeties like Welcome NHK. But it's rare for the balance of the two are met in such a perfect upbeat show.

>>153207236
This. The series would be biased if it was only about how Haruhi is cool and fun without showing the consequences her ideas can have and her lack of control, making her rely on a straight man like Kyon, and vice-versa.

>>153191609
Because there is nothing left to discuss.
The last novel was released nearly 6 years ago, i.e. it's a dead franchise, so people moved on.

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>>153207371
You still have the other 3 trying to control her, you don't need Kyon
The only time I actually liked him was in disappearance because he finally gets over himself

>>153205675
>here, have this medal for free. Are you happy now? You got first prize! Aren't you happy?
I guess that makes some sense

>>153193601
NGE is just pretentious schlock. Was amazing in the 90's, but its flaws keep it from being the timeless classic its delusional fans want it to be.

>>153191609
1. Time
2. Is not aimed at kids

Most consistent long cultural phenomenon runners are aimed towards children or preteens like Pokemon or Dragon Ball. There are exceptions like Berserk but that's more because of the big space between releases. Pokemon has remained constant for almost two decades with no sign of waning and Dragon Ball has constant releases in other media the past decade before returning to screens proper.

Haruhi is remembered for what it did in her time but lacks the staying power of more flexible works. It's audience target is a bit more specific.

>>153207457
The whole staying power doesn't have much to do with quality anyway. It's just a matter of whether the themes can grip the audience and if discussion can be maintained somehow. Something terribly written can do both.

>>153204282
>Stuff like Evangelion or Madoka haven't been outdone in their own genres yet.

I'll give you Madoka, but Evangelion's themes were already explored ad nauseum by Mobile Suit Gundam and its successors. It was just a little edgier and expanded merchandising beyond just model kits. Its cultural impact has little to do with the actual content of the show.

>>153207630
I don't think so. What you say sounds reasonable but doesn't explain why something with the writting quality of fucking Pokemon can outlast almost anything else.

There are definitely much better works out there, Haruhi included, but the masses keep consuming the neverending chronicles of the kid that never grown and never makes any real progress in his quest to become the best.

>>153207707
That's what I'm saying though.

>>153207029
that's retarded..

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>>153207707
Older watchers like it for nostalgia reasons, since it's been airing for a very long time. Kids like it because it's a kids show. Both of those put together will make it have a lot of longevity.

>>153207764
;_;

>>153207455
The other 3 matters surprisingly little. They're plot devices to bring the problem to the table, and they are plot devices to solve the problem. They are representative of higher power that are reacting to an even higher power, and since it's also a comedic show, in most normal scenes they are just being a stereotype, not a character.

We never really find out about them. Their backgrounds are always hidden, we never find out if kimidori was an alien or time traveler, I don't think we meet another member from Koizumi's group except the meido and butler who comes back in the latter volume. We know more about Nagato, but it's people like Asakura that makes Nagato more inhumane, and it's for her future development with Kyon.

Like, Haruhi turns the 3 of them into plot and provides with momentum, and Kyon makes them into a character. Fuck I don't know how to explain this, but without Kyon, there is no meta because theres no reality to be contrasted with the abnormal, so the story would have to completely change from the core.

Dunno man, maybe you should look for other superpower high school setting anime starring various forms of ~dere. I'm sure there's one airing this season

>>153208053
>we never find out if kimidori was an alien or time traveler
Actually we do.

>Like, Haruhi turns the 3 of them into plot and provides with momentum, and Kyon makes them into a character
Pretty much. Haruhi gets the plot devices she wanted for her club, but the point is that outside of that they're their own characters which they mostly reveal to Kyon (and a bit more to Haruhi later as the Brigade gains stability).

>>153208053
Maybe without Kyon they would have been deeper characters

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>>153191609
Blame the bass player.

>>153208232
Friendly reminder that the bassist turned her down to be with his wife.

>>153207979
we should send the writers letters or something lol

>>153207950
That's sums it up pretty well, yes.

Has there been a single word from Tanigawa since he wrote Random numbers?

>>153208974
Nope

>>153192026
Because she knows her mighty power

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>>153196557
What's with that shitty fanart! Post the Noizi art

>>153205285
Wrong. Yuki-chan is bad because it's literally wish fullfilment trash for people who waifu'd Yuki in her worst form.
Not to mention it takes out everything interesting that makes Haruhi great (time travel, aliens etc.) and condenses it down to a boring romcom that's not even funny.

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>>153208974
No, but maybe since Yuki-chan is ending soon, he'll announce a new novel.

As if.

>>153211199
>yuki-chan is ending soon
I thought it ended months ago, I remember a thread about the last chapter spoilers, like 6 months ago if not more.

>>153211199
I can't be the only one who really liked Yuki-chan

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>>153205475
Tempus Edax Rerum

>>153213226
I didn't like it all that much but it was a nice spin-off, as long as Haruhi was there.

>>153191609
Different generation.

Same shit happens all the time to old stuff, unless they try to stay relevant they fade away in time.


For example, lets look at pop music.

For 2010s, there's Justin Bieber.
For 2000s, there's Usher
For 1990s, there's Celine Dion
For 1980s, there's Michael Jackson

so on.

New shit also replaces old shit.

>>153191609
people haven't forgotten, it's just been 10 years

>>153213653
Does anyone even remember Justin Bieber these days

>>153215033
Apparently he became surprisingly good.

>>153215033
Older normalfags

>>153215057
So basically he grew up?

>>153193737
I feel awful that I know the video you just described.

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>>153215122
Clearly we need to do it ourselves to get Tanigawa to notice that people still want more books.

>>153202715
Mine is being creative

>>153216183
Is yellow a creative color

>>153216227
no

>>153204257
S A U C E

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>>153217316
I SAID SAUCE

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>>153217531
such a punchable face

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>>153191609
>forgotten anime
Do you not remember everyone collectively losing their shit to complete the music video in case the reveal was S3 instead of panchinko

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>>153217674
do it anon, I dare you

>>153198084
You sound kind of autistic for not realizing how big this was in japan as well? although yes i agree it was marketed hard to the west
shit's more like a passing fad

I hope Toei gets the series, i mean the animation will be terrible, but at least they will fucking finish it all

We never even got snow mountain syndrome, fuck you Kyoani

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>>153217760
Yeah, and that was the last time people collectively gave a shit. 2009 and Endless Eight worked to kill the franchise pretty well (despite it being good) and 2014 brought it back only to shit on the fans again. They're not going to come back a third time.

I still don't understand how this series got so big.

>>153219033
Season 1 was legit good & the TV Order made it even better

>>153219144
Movie was even better

>>153191609
> forgotten

I literally rewatched the movie last week cunt

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I want to hug Haruhi

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>>153219762
Doesn't mean new watchers know what it is. It's forgotten in that there's no new fanbase, it's all old fucks who are still around. Most of the old fanbase is gone anyway.

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>>153204257
Right.

>>153220659
>old fucks
20+ year olds?
I don't get it, do you want 14 year olds talking about Haruhi like they do with Re:Zero

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>>153221167
By old fucks I just mean older fans of the series who watched it before say, 2011-2012 or so. During its peak years.

>>153191609

Well, one of the main places to talk about anime is /r/anime, and it's a total shit hole. You're more or less not allowed to talk about anime more than a couple of years old, mods actually remove threads about older shows.

tl;dr reddit is a shit hole.

>actual discussion while I'm gone
Well, fuck you too.