>people reacting Samurai Jack S5 trailer >shocked at little

>>153169597
edgy shit with loads of blood is usually aimed at 13 year olds

>>153169939
You can show blood and mature themes without being blatantly edgy or immature about it.

>>153169597
>forcibly making the stories "kid friendly"

But you are wrong. Anime does that. But the shows that does it are the ones that are aimed at kids. Just like how western shows that are aimed at kids.
There are western animated shows that are more mature as well you know. It' just that most western animation is aimed at kids.

>>153169597
It's garbage animated in flash, why do you give a fuck?

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>>153170012
>got stabbed
>there is a trail of blood
>hurr not enough blood

yeah no, you are just edgy and immature

>>153170342
That's not what I implied, retard.
Samurai Jack is a good example of what there should be more of, in the Western animation that is.

The fact that the little amount of blood surprised almost everyone I have seen to react to the trailer is very telling of how unusual it is to have a cartoon even that mildly graphic. I am not claiming that it's "not enough".

>>153170012
More often than not its Akame ga Kill these days so I have zero faith.

>Samurai Jack
Oh shit nigga, I haven't watched that since I was a wee lad. Might pick it up.

>>153169597
Based Jack triggering the weebs.

>>>/co/

>>153169597
It's actually a little disapointing because the first four seasons of samurai Jack were very creative with the blood and gore. With oil spilling out of the cybernetic assassins that came for thim and various other effects and visuals conveying the injuries of the supernatural creatures Jack fought.

Also:
>>>/co/

>>153169597
But anime/manga does do that a lot of the times.
I think more in manga though, anime does it but usually never makes it relevant enough for it to matter so it might as well not have mattered.

That Samurai Jack trailer though. It's a show I'll just forget see with nostalgia goggles and just forget I even watched that trailer and not touching anything related to it ever again.

>>153170476
Your post is definitely not what your OP would imply.

It's norm for a 14+ rating action show involving sharp objects to have some blood, the only way it can come out shocking to viewers for having little blood is when the show originally contained a lot of blood.

your post could have been rephrased better with
>shocked at actually having blood on the screen

>>153170845
Not OP and I'm not trying to defend his shitpost either here, but it was pretty clear to me what he meant with that.

>>153169597
>pic
I cried.

>>153169597
That's what I like about anime more blookd and gruesome/taboo shit that wouldn't be accepted in western society (ugh)

>>153169597

Is she OK?

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>>153169597
>western cartoons
>people will wait almost a decade for a sequel to the last good (this is stretching it) cartoon
I don't know how to feel, these are complex emotions.

>>153169597
Oh yeah i need to watch that new season of samurai jack. I havent watched modern western cartoons other than Venture bros

>>153171412
Well i like Venture bros but even with that you have to wait for new season 3 or 4 years

>>153171412
I'm pretty sure the last season was in 2004, so that makes it more than a decade. But it was legitimately good, I don't know why you said arguably.

>>153170714
>triggering weebs
>when it's a story about a Japanese samurai
If anything weebs love it.

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>>153169597
>Illya touching the piece of rubble still thinking Berserker is still there with her
>average semi-normalfags watching the show all miss this detail
Still a bit upset.

>>153170714
But creator himself is weeb

>Unironically making a cartoon vs anime thread
Nice job OP, what will you make next, a console war thread on /v/?

>>153169597
You seriously picked Fate as an example of a show not aimed at children?

>>153170476
Well, Jack was always rated for kids so there was never any noticeable bloodletting, only scratches. It was still a brilliant show, but the fact that he could only murder robots was always a sad limitation.

The new trailer has everyone happy because it will give the creators greater creative freedom.

Cartoons are for kids in the west, can't do much about it.

>>153169597
Does she die in every Fate series? Should I just skip to Prism Illya?

>>153172412
She doesn't die in Fate and in HF she sacrifices herself but it's not terribly sad.

She only died in UBW because the path would have been too perfect otherwise, Gil really had no reason to kill her and only made everything slightly harder for himself by doing so.

>>153172412
You should skip Prisma.

>>153172412
Might aswell. Only part of it that doesn't pretend to be anything more than shallow crap.

>>153169597
Flash "animation" was a mistake, and you have to go back >>>/co/

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This is now a Samurai Jack thread
What was the best fight in the series and why was it with these niggers

also
>Those kids in school that didn't like the show because """nothing""" could happen in a whole episode

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>>153169597
Don't use my wife to bag on Samurai Jack, mongrel! I am actually looking forward to more Jack a lot more than the Spring anime season.

What the fuck is Samurai Jack

>>153172600
The OP post is a compliment to SJ, because it's an exception to the norm.

>>153170845
I'm with >>153170889. The OP "didn't" imply anything. He has literal, explicit language there, and you forced your own meaning into it and argued it was an "implication".

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>>153172447
>Ultimatly like UBW the most because of Shirous interaction with Rin and Archer
>Everything else in the route is uninspired boring shit
It's a pain trying to defend the route when HF have Kirei.
Why the fuck did HF need to have 3 main villain when UBWs only got watered down rehashes?

Nasu is a fucking hack

>>153169597
>Samurai Jack S5
What?

>>153169597
She just drank wine and sleeping

>>153172872
5 seconds in google.

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>>153172587
> Only part of it that doesn't pretend to be anything more than shallow crap.
HAAH
WAAW

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>>153172947
Selfcest mana transfer isn't serious business, especially when delicious brown loli clones of yourself are involved. UFO should seriously release a 23-minute OVA of Illya and Kuro doing light mana transferring.

>>153173338
I don't think you've been in the Prisma threads much if you think "it that doesn't pretend to be anything more than shallow crap".

>>153172947
Like I said. It embraces it in full and thus easily surpasses the mess that is the rest of Fate.

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>>153172947
>>153173338
>>153172412
>what if we took a serious VN
>then, what if we took some random, unimportant side character...
>and then, what if we made her, and all her irrelevant friends lesbians
>prisma illya

a complete insult to the Fate franchise.

>>153169597
It depends on the tone too, you know. People would be fucking shocked to see, say, DBS having blood everywhere because it's a kids show.

>>153173561
Kill yourself.

>>153172355
There's also stuff aimed directly at adults, like Rick and Morty or South Park (which has been just political satire for the last 10 years).
The problem is that there isn't much in between; shows that just tell a story without either trying to appeal to "respectable, serious adults" or being overly conscious about keeping everything g-rated.

I miss the old 90s cartoons like Rocko, Ren and Stimpy, etc, which were still mostly aimed at children but were far less concerned with coddling them.

>>153173762
>South Park
>aimed at adults
Are you sure? It might have just been the times, but I've only ever ehard of teenagers liking it.

>>153173837
South Park used to be aimed at teenagers and young adults when it was mostly toilet humor with the occasional political gag. But these days it's just straight up satire. Political satire usually appeals more to adults than to teens.

>>153170766
This is true but I think blood has its own merits. Blood in itself is an extremely vivid image full of a bright color. If we get more stuff like >>153170342 then I'm okay with the inclusion of it over the creative ways of showing damage.

>>153169597
Fuck off, /co/.

>>153172634
Western cartoon kino.

>>153173883
And this last season was the least funny ever.

>>153173579
Nah. It's great.

Frankly I feel this FATE/* thing is bullshit.

At least *monogatari is a connected Arc.

>>153172815
Gil provided a lot of really solid thematic stuff to the route that I think people glance over.

Archer was definitely the most pivotal antagonist, but Shirou's fight with Gil was the culmination of all the character building and motifs presented previously.

>>153174853
The only good thing that came out of Prisma is aki99's porn.

I can't help but remember how the last time something from that era od american cartoons "came back" went. Powerpuff Girls anyone?

>>153175152
The Powerpuff Girls reboot wasn't helmed by anyone who made the original, and Craig McCracken has shied away from it (keep in mind, he's not too uptight. He liked the magical girl anime adaptation).

This straight up has Genndy directing again, along with several of the people who worked with him.

>>153175075
To bad the Gil himself in UBW was uninteresting shit whose only purpose was to serve as foder for Shirou

>>153175418
He's about the most interesting as he gets in FSN as a whole. It's in the supplementary material when he gets more build up.

But yeah, he worked a strong foil for Shirou, and the themes built up. Shirou was an imitation hero, Gil was billed as the "original" hero. Shirou crafted copies of weapons, while Gil carried the prototypes.

After defeating Archer, Shirou resolved to move forward as being a hero, and what Gil represented was an obstacle for him to overcome. Here comes this guy with a plan to kill everyone in the city, and maybe beyond. Time to sit up, or shut up, kid.

It's the resolution to the answer he got from Archer.

>>153171939
>retard psycho loli can't tell a rock's texture from her substitute father's skin

>>153175939
That's a compliment. Means Herc had some rock hard abs.

>not being open to all forms of animation
>literally cutting yourself off from entertainment

>>153175984
>abs
Sure Anon, Illya felt his rock hard "abs".

>>153176004
>cutting off the cancer
Good idea.

>>153176004
>I'm open to RWBY

>>153176004
>"entertainment"

>>153176020
There's quality in all forms of media
You really get nothing from ignoring an entire medium

>>153176044
RWBY is shit but Red vs. Blue is still surprisingly good.

>>153172355
You can do something about it but it would be a risk and no one has been willing to try since Spawn.

20 years and nothing like Spawn has been attempted.

>>153176092
Cancer: The Post

It wasn't so much there was blood as it was JACK GETTING STABBED IN THE STOMACH

I was taken aback, but more surprised that Jack actually was pushed back enough to get wounded.

>>153176112
Once Monty left directing, and Miles picked it up, the quality did a major jump.

I'm not gonna deny that seasons 9, and a chunk of 10 were a cesspit proto-RWBY, though.

>>153176169
>implying I even understand what you're talking about
>watching 10 fucking seasons of that shit

>>153176347
The first five seasons have some genuinely well written comedy in them.

Then it gets experimental.

https://youtu.be/3Rj3VZNgUfE?list=PLgk2b1AiN41R1JsPRC3nkNfOuy354fT-p

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>>153175112
True true.

Most anime is for children though, just like western cartoons.

>>153176401
>It's 14 seasons or more
Telling you to kill yourself would be a mercy considering the dreadful way in which you're wasting your life.

>>153176478
Episodes are usually like 5-10 minutes long. A season amounts to about two hours.

For stuff like Netflix they usually merge them into single movies.

>>153176458
But (current) western cartoons for children are trash.

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>>153169597
The animation of shows in the west aren't good but most times the story inside is usually great in my opinion. They have alternative and creative solutions to problems that wouldn't be so easy to solve. To see samurai jack take a darker tone is interesting but I will still want some of the old comedic stance they had.

Anime was the pure opposite most times great animation but the story is filled with common tropes and cliches to the point they abandon the plot entirely just for fanservice.
>Transfer students
>Little girls in roles not usually held by little girls
>Young male doing extreme jobs that would easily get them killed
>Forced romance / Hinted romance
>Muh new powers asspull

>>153170683
If the first few episodes are good I might stay for the long hall.

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>SJ
>good
>SJ
>belonging on /a/

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I saw bodies being slashed spewing blood and saw a character burn itself to death by combustion at seven or eight years old. I was subjected to magazine hentai at around ten or eleven my mom bought it for me in accident and I was actually the one who brought to attention asking if she was sure. I've seen films for ages eighteen up around that age as well. Pretty sure I saw legitimate hentai broadcast somewhere.

I'd say I came out just fine, I'm pretty chillax. I barely could remember shit and it never struck me as shocking because it was a series, not real life, but nevertheless found it wicked. People need to focus less on showing gratuitous meaningless shoved sex/violence (because fucking no even if some children just forget about it) to children and more on showing shit that actually shows PERHAPS sexual themes (these children aren't going to be sheltered for fucking forever, they will eventually learn this shit no matter how shut-in they are) and ''proper'' violence along with its consequences with actual moral stories.

>>153173622

It did had blood. DBS is just severely toned contrary to the former seasons and series.

You're even gonna feel light-headed from trying to compare early DBZ to the entirety of DBS, the contrast is that big.

>>153177567
DBS ain't DBZ. DBZ Kai was also severely toned down. Stop acting like it's limited to the West.

>>153173837
It was and still is. It actually was more "kid friendly" back in the 90s (at least PG 13) but as time progressed it got more and more morbid and went full on controversy and Satire

>>153176458
Wrong. Most of it is for teens (13 to 19 years old).
Western cartoons rarely cover any audience besides 6-12, maybe 13 years old.
Cartoons have degenerated massively over the last 20-25 years. Most of it is SJW trash or completely braindead garbage like the breadwinners and 90% of live action TV shows

>>153178129
>it's not for children
>it's for teens
Whoa.

>>153175152
Yeah but this time original creator is with that

>>153178129
Just wanted to make clean that I didn't mean to say live action shows are cartoons but rather that they're trash, just like modern cartoons

>>153171412
It took like what, 30 years before Parasyte got an anime so?

>>153178129
>Cartoons have degenerated massively over the last 20-25 years. Most of it is SJW trash or completely braindead garbage
I really like how you're implying anime aren't like this

>>153177286
>Samurai Jack
>not good
It is great

>>153178129
Regular show was good despite CN neglecting forever, Adventure time was okay pre fire princess, Steven Universe is extremely polarizing. Action cartoons legit dont exist anymore. Young Justice and pretty much all of DC's animated action shows are gone and is replaced with TTG. Marvel had some stuff on disney XD or whatever that channel is called. Ultimate spiderman and avengers are done last i heard

>>153178156
Teens are closer to the age of 18 and 21 than kids.
Teens also think more different and grown up than children.
Also, puberty normally starts at 13 for boys and 11 for girls

>>153178312
This really feels like a little kid trying to seem more mature in front of adult peers.

>>153178129
>degenerated
>SJW
Ok /v/

>>153178300
>action cartoons dont exist anymore
I don't get why this is so, especially in this era of marvel/dc meme movies. They SHOULD be pushing female thor cartoons or whatever schlock they churn out nowadays, but I guess western animation has degraded so much that no one wants to actually animate action.

But could Flash beat Accelerator?

>>153176458
>Most anime is for children
>Most of it is for teens
Both of you are wrong. While there is a decent number of anime for kids, most of it airs at midnight nowadays, being definitely not for kids.
As for teens, those are harder to say, but them not being able to waste as much as young adults in anime should be enough to see it is clearly more oriented for people with actual money to use on anime.

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>>153178300
>Young Justice
Well atleast netflix is saving that one, also I think that the new Voltron cartoon is pretty good, I thought the season finale fight was cool.
I am still salty about symbionic titans though.

>>153178511
you got to remember the deal with action cartoons is to sell figures and other tie in items (video games and the like) to get a return on the amount time and money spent

>>153178213
Can't see regressive leftist SJW propaganda in my chinese-mongolian caligraphy.
Also, Anime was utter trash in the 70s and 80s. 90s and 2000s were the best period in Anime history. Even though there's still trash coming out, Anime is still good. It just went from a 5/10 to a 9/10 to an 8/10 medium.
Not defending shitty cash grab series like Bikini Warriors, Hand Shakers etc. though.

>>153176458
>>153178129
Do children and teens buy late night blu-rays now? Or are you guys talking about the mainstream minority of prime time shows? Or am I actually in a reddit thread? Who knows!

>>153178356
>propagating freedom of speech and anti discrimination laws (nice contradiction)
>"le evil white male is the cause of everything. Everything he says is racist, sexist, mysoginistic, islamphobic, homophobic, [insert meaningless buzzword here]. Don't listen to anything he says because he's always a white fascist straight pig."
>"white privilege"
>"I'm offended/triggered"
>forcing 70+ """""genders""""" down people's necks
>not degenerate
Nice bait, /qa/

>>153178193
*clear

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>>153169597
Meanwhile in France we had a cartoon with plenty of gore, big boobs and full blown sex scenes with uncensored genitalia.
When we set out to do "mature" shit, even Japan can't get on our level. It's not the West OP, it's just 'murrica.

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>>153169597
I'm shocked to how he's so fucking badass now.

>>153179058
French is like the Japan of Europe.

So just curious /a/ are there any cartoons that you genuinly like or do you think that western cartoons are inferior to anime and would rather just watch another anime instead of a cartoon?

>>153179058
What's it called?

>>153178985
>implying anime cares about your shit
Have you even seen the average anime?
We just aren't as retarded as /v/ and /pol/ with their stupid inferiority complex that makes them think everyone is against them.
Also Japan doesn't give a shit, just like most of the world, as long as there's money to be made things will stay this way.

>>153179352
It's the latter for me, but I'd easily balance Anime and cartoons if there were any that would suit my taste

>>153179352
There is.
It's Samurai Jack.

>>153179352
I liked flapjack and chowder

>>153179352
Rick and Morty is pretty great, I enjoy Steven Universe too. RWBY is okay.

>>153179352
I stopped watching cartoons a long time ago.
I watch anime for 2 specific reasons. Cute girls doing cute girls, and retarded trainwrecks.
Cartoons don't give me either, and most of the time they tend to go too furry (or other strange shit) for my tastes.

>>153169597

Samurai jack always was a cartoon aimed to young kids, Jack never "kill" lifeforms outside of robots.

Now they upgrade the rating to TV-14 and complain because his toddlers can´t watch SJ anymore

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>>153179359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CtGzj7NmSA
Lastman, it's a prequel for the comic of the same name wich is quite popular in France. The serie has 26 10 minutes episodes, the animation is cheap in some places but overall they managed to make it look good.

>>153179367
>>153179449
Were there any exceptions, like cartoons that you enjoyed just as much as anime like for example I really enjoyed avatar and samurai jack.

>>153179623
>i am 15

>>153179058
>plenty of gore, big boobs and full blown sex scenes
Yeah bro Dragon Age is super mature too.

>>153179367
Didn't imply that Anime cared or had to. It's the opposite, I love that they don't care about SJW things or pretty much any (western) political matter most of the time.
Also, I'm neither from /v/, nor /pol/. The latter because my country got banned for too quality posts [insert carat face here] and /pol/babies shit up every thread they're involved in. Not a /v/ toddler too, because I know those retards from their /g/ shilling threads

>>153179352
The last show I remember really liking was Over the Garden Wall, and it was just a mini-series

Absolutely retarded scheduling makes me not want to bother with western animation at all, it's not like there are any worthwhile shows to look out for besides maybe Samurai Jack

>>153179352
I watch adult cartoons all the time. Their cheapness and absurdity is amusing to me. Kid stuff is okay, but I never really follow any of them.

>>153179723
>What are quotation marks ? What could they mean ?

I find it really interesting how Japan was alway ahead of the curve with their "children's animation".
So let's remember the late 70's.
America has looney toons and superfriends.
Soviets have claymation cartoons.
Japan has a serious drama about boxing, an historical epic about Marie Antoinettes bodyguard and the most shocking and thought provoking war drama unlike any other show anyone had seen up to that point.

How would an Anime look if you restrict the Audience to 21+ or 31+ or 41+ or 51+ or 61+?

How would an Anime look if you restrict the Audience to those that have completed a MINT-degree?

>>153170476
The more often it's used, the less impact it has when the viewer sees it. Why are you implying that Samurai Jack showing restraint and using blood to appropriate dramatic effect is a bad thing?

>>153178312
You're still a kid

>>153178129
Cartoons peaked with early seasons of The Simpsons

>>153172947
>>153173338
It makes me hard everytime i watch this.

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>>153179352
It has to be this.

Also so many jokes went over my head as a kid. And now ive rewatched some i laughed even harder.

>>153171412
>>mecha anime
>>people will wait a decade for a sequel to (one of) the last good (not stretching it) series
I know how to feel, hope isn't a complex emotion

>>153179723
What's wrong with Origins?

>>153180951
Your reading comprehension sucks.

>>153169597
> All animation should be gory and edgy regardless of the target audience
And shut up, Jack only killed robots, not humans.

And there has been kid's shows in the past that were disturbing as fuck i.e Courage the Cowardly Dog, and even Hey Arnold had implied sex in one episode. Steven Universe has the whole huge woman fetish (very implied mind you) with Greg and Rose.

>>153169939
And older as well