Angel kill counts

Actually, Misato can have one too. She was the one who destroyed the swimming angel. -1 for joint children

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>>153167713
Touji-0

How many times did 01 go berserk?

>>153169695
Like practically everytime except for Kaworu and the second angel.

>>153169754
What a fucking deux ex machina

>>153167713
shinjia is a mad killer yo

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Although, Asuka's solo battles were much harder. All Rei did on her own was throw a spear, which was a pretty good toss, and self destruct that one time. And suicide bombing doesn't take much talent. But Asuka's first solo encounter was in a fucking volcano, and she had to use her wits to survive.

And I don't know if the other kids could have done better than she did against the nine.

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>>153171290
Oh stop being such a butthurt Asukafag. It's pathetic how you just can't deal with the fact that Rei is better than Asuka.

To make that toss and kill that Angel, Rei had to do something Asuka literally couldn't do to save her life: remain focused, calm and rational in the face of overwhelming danger and pressure. This is extremely hard, far harder than quite literally hanging in a rope waving your arms like with Asuka.

Rei is able to not just physically defeat the Angel, but to also psychologically by confronting it when it invades her mind. Asuka was the worst pilot. Deal with it.

>>153172382
>Toji would had been a great pilot had his EVA not get infected by Aids angel.

>>153171290
Asuka is the most talented one, but emotionally the weakest one. When she got her shit together she defeated the 9 alone.
Rei isn't particularly talented, she's diligent and follows order, so often she's more useful than Asuka and Shinji (both are wild cards who screw up when their emotions get the best of then; then again, they are fucking kids).
Shinji is somewhere in the middle. He might be not the most talented pilot, but he's the one who better synchronizes because Yui is in total control of the beast. Many of "Shinji's" wins are belong to Yui, actually. Of course, you can't blame the poor kid for failing miserably in the first episode, he just got acquainted with the robot.

Let me start by saying that Ayanami Rei isn’t even really a person. She’s a monstrosity made out Yui Ikari’s DNA. The connection between her and Shinji Ikari comes from Shinji being interested to her smell because it reminds him of his mother and the fact that his father is giving her positive attention instead of him. Her personality type in the original anime was a response to the love of typical emotionless and submissive anime girls, and why something like that wouldn’t work in real life. Both the manga and the movie versions replaced that with Shinji straight-up warming her up and making her more human than either her, her in-show clones, or the thousands of direct copies of her in other popular anime.

Rei is by far one of the worst girls in the show, maybe even just in anime altogether, because that was the point of the character. She’s the choice of people who want to escape from human interaction and want a pet to mold however they see fit.

>>153172501
>Asuka is the most talented one
Wrong. Shinji is the most talented one. Asuka has no talent at all and is the worst pilot, because she was trained and given the most modern Evangelion unit yet still is the worst.

Rei has skills and good judgement, as well as will to execute. Rei outdoes Asuka in the field of EVA-piloting despite having an older, inferior EVA-model. Not only that, Rei can cooperate and work with others as a team, something extremely important. So can Shinji. Asucan't.

Asuka is the weakest physically, psychologically AND morally. She never "got her shit together", and never defeated any MP-EVA's, the only reason she was able to fight at ALL was because of EVA02's magic berserk mode. That was not talent, especially since she fails despite being given the single biggest EVA-fight powerup in the entire Evangelion-series.

Talent: Shinji > Rei > Asuka
Professionalism and reliability: Rei > Shinji > Asuka

>>153172382
It's as simple as Rei isn't a fucking human being to begin with. Shinji and Asuka screw up because they are regular kids, as you would expect from a kid.
>remain focused, calm and rational in the face of overwhelming danger and pressure. This is extremely hard
Once again, she's not human. It's not that she remained focused and rational, is that she's emotionally handicapped to begin with. It's not "difficult" for her to restrain for displaying emotions that she doesn't have to begin with, are you for fucking real? In fact the interesting trait about the character is precisely when she begins to have emotions, not when she's a dull, obedient clone. You fail even at being a Reifag.

>>153172504
Good luck engaging with the retards. They'll descend upon you like rabid winged excrement.

>>153172601
We'll talk again after you watch EOE. You clearly didn't.

>>153172611
If your only excuse is that Rei is genetically superior to Asuka, then boy did you just blow yourself out.

>It's not that she remained focused and rational, is that she's emotionally handicapped to begin with. It's not "difficult" for her to restrain for displaying emotions that she doesn't have to begin with, are you for fucking real?

Rei has emotions, and is visibly struggling against the Angel. The problem here is Asuka, and it is a fact that Asuka fucking sucks. She can't handle the pressure, Asuka is a doll with no personality or will of her own. That's why Rei prevails, because Rei can take loss and setback without going limp.

You're just a butthurt Asukafag. Rei is not just the obedient clone you think she is, but Asuka IS canonically the doll you hate that she is. Don't take your anger out on others.

>>153172601
Msot of the time Shinji just relied on mommy to go beserk for him

>>153172681
>>153172660
>asukafags with no argument

Who would have seen THAT coming?

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>>153172660
You just replied to a copy pasta written by a samefagging Asukafag autist that has been shitposting for several years now. Who are you to talk about excrement?

>>153172691
No, that's what hateful Asuka fans say because they can't deal Asuka being on the bottom of the pilot skill & talent list.

Shinji's EVA goes berserk twice in the series. Now if OP counted those, that'd still be 2/5, meaning it's not "most", and Shinji would STILL have been better than Asuka.

>>153172687
You are the one insulting everyone, m8. Don't project.

>>153172759
What the fuck is wrong with her neck in this picture?

>>153172601
But "getting her shit together" was precisely what she did in her fight with the MP-EVA's. She accepted her mother, and the boundaries between people; she was able to pilot without emotional restraint. It was her only real showing of her trained skill as a pilot.

>>153172601
>the single biggest EVA-fight powerup in the entire Evangelion-series.
Oh come on. Asuka wasn't the best pilot, but 02's Berserk mode in EoE is not even close to any of 01's Berserk modes

Actually, when I think about it, Asuka was sort of crippled since, because of her issues with her mother, she wasn't as in sync with her Eva as Shinji (who loved his mother) or Rei (who was a clone of Yui).

Asuka's berserk mode was her finally accepting her mother, but the MP units were just too OP.

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>>153172797
It's a bottleneck?

>>153172849
That was not getting her shit together. You're just making stuff up.

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>>153172765
Calling Rei an "emotionless obedient clone" sounds like an insult to me, and disparaging Rei as invalid because he thinks she's not human is also more or less hate speech.

Rei is human in every way that counts. She cries, she suffers, she bleeds, she cares about others, she gets lonely, and she is happy when with someone she cares about. Just because Rei's life is a tragedy doesn't mean you get to dismiss Rei.

You're just envious of Rei's skills and angry because Asuka isn't as good as her.

>>153172849
>But "getting her shit together" was precisely what she did in her fight with the MP-EVA's. She accepted her mother, and the boundaries between people; she was able to pilot without emotional restraint. It was her only real showing of her trained skill as a pilot.

Not true.

>>153172853
>Oh come on. Asuka wasn't the best pilot, but 02's Berserk mode in EoE is not even close to any of 01's Berserk modes

It's a lot stronger, because we actually see a huge shaft of life forming, something EVA01 never did. What I actually meant was that unlike with Shinji's berserk, Asuka is not knocked unconcious. Therefore it's a more powerful aide for the pilot. What happens when EVA01 berserks, is basically like activating the Dummy Plug.

>Asuka's berserk mode was her finally accepting her mother, but the MP units were just too OP.
No, they weren't. Asuka just sucked. Why can't you accept this? I can give you a scene for scene analysis with facts, and you just won't accept that Asuka is a really bad pilot who can't work with what she's given. That's really important.

Is it because Asuka is overhyped?

>>153169695

Sachiel, Leliel, Zeruel.
That was it.

>>153172954
Why is her skill as a pilot so important though? Only a autist of unimaginable levels would base how much he likes characters by their skill level, especially in a show like Eva

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Asukafans never get the irony of Evangelion and NEVER will, because they're delusional fanboys who are too immersed in their own fantasies.

>Rei
Rei never wanted to be a competent EVA pilot or placed any care in being the best, to Rei it is simply duty and a means to an end.

>Asuka
Asuka wanted to not just be a good EVA pilot, she wanted to be #1, even though she had no idea what that actually meant.

Rei ends up performing her job as an EVA pilot competently and actually knows more about the EVA's and their maintenance than Asuka. This is because for Asuka, EVA piloting was something she was brainwashed to believe was the only thing she could do. Rei was also similarly brainwashed, but Rei resisted and was always a free individual on the mental level.

Rei, the clone who was made to serve her masters ends up defeating them and becoming more free than any human.
Asuka, the normally born human who believed she was free was always nothing more than a slave.

They are supposed to be opposites, and lo and behold: THEY ARE, EVEN IN SUBSTANCE VS PRESENTATION.

>>153173099
I know right? It doesn't really matter that Asuka is the worst pilot, but Asuka fans are so desperate for validation they make up any lie and delusion. For most EVA fans it's enough to just count up the Angels and say Asuka is a crappy pilot, but Asuka fans literally need to post their pages of fanfiction where Asuka has the most "talent" or "potential", something which isn't even true.

>>153173124
>kirito beats out shinji
every time

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>Reifags talking about Asukafags being insecure
>this thread

>>153173176
Blame Anno. He's been turning Shinji into a fucktoy for Kaworu in merchandise and spinoffs ever since. Shinji is the best EVA character and deserved far more recognition than this, only Rei is left standing in her rightful #1 place because she's a national phenomenon.

>>153173210
And Idolmaster beat out Eva.

It's a new generation that doesn't give a shit about old characters and old shows.

>>153173271
They do give a shit about the NEW Asuka and so on though. Rei is the last bastion of integrity in this god forsaken franchise.

>>153167713
Let's go over them:
>Sachiel
- Unit 01 goes Berserk. Point for Yui.
>Shamshel
- Shinji goes berserk, refuses to run away. Legit kill for Shinji.
>Ramiel
- Shinji snipes the core, Rei defends him. Kill count 2.
>Gaghiel
- Shinji and Asuka work together to open its mouth so the battleships can shoot the core. Teamwork kill: 1
>Israfel
- Shinji and Asuka do their synchronized dance kill. Teamwork kill 2
>Sandalphon
- Asuka kills it while in lava. Solo point to her.
>Matarael
- Shinji kills it after Asuka blocks the acid and Rei throws him the gun. Teamwork kill 3
>Sahaquiel
- Asuka kills it after Shinji catches it and Rei opens its AT Field. Teamwork kill 4
>Iruel
- Ritsuko kills it with hacking.
>Leliel
- Shinji gets cocky and tries to charge in and gets eaten. His mom has to bail him out. Yui kills: 2
>Bardiel
- Kicks Asuka and Rei's asses. Shinji refuses to fight. Dummy Plug is used to kill it. I'm guessing this is the one you're crediting to Gendo.
>Zeruel
- Shinji goes berserk, 2deep4u into Unit 01. Yui wakes up and eats the core. Point to Yui
>Arael
- Asuka gets mind-raped. Rei goes spear chucker. Gets her first solo kill.
>Armisael
- Fuses with Rei who goes Allahu Ackbar to kill it. Her second kill.
>Tabris
Kaworu. Shinji kills him.

So Shinji killed Shamshel and Tabris solo.
Gets killing blows on Ramiel, Israfel and Matarael with teamwork.

Yui takes over and kills Sachiel, Leliel and Zeruel.

Asuka gets her only solo kill with Sandalphon.
Killing blows on Israfel(with Shinji) and Sahaquiel with teamwork.

Rei gets killing blows on Arael and Armisael. Both pretty much solo kills.

Gaghiel killed by battleships with Shinji and Asuka assist. Was Misato's plan.

Ritsuko kills Iruel

Dummy Plug kills Bardiel.

Adam kills Lilim.

>>153173164
Look friend, it seems you are projecting.

I consider myself an Asuka fan, and I don't care about her skill as an Eva pilot. The style she pilots compared to the others is part of her character (though I don't really care about it that much, either), and I think her final scenes in EoE are great, even if she doesn't pass your satisfactory power-level ranking.

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>>153172861
>>153172954
I'll bite.
A big part of Asuka's character arc is that her hangups are holding her back from being happy, and part of that is syncing with her Eva. In EoE, she finds salvation in solitude (the A.T. field/her mother), and she can pilot to the best of her ability.
It's not a power up. EVA-02 only enters berserk mode when she's being stabbed by the lances, which she achieved from her will to live and synchronicity alone. This is the only true show of her skill.
I'll give you that she is weak-minded, but her technical skill is the best.
Asuka was able to overcome her weaknesses, instead of choosing to give in to them (as Rei did by suicide-bombing.) She didn't need her mother to do the fighting for her, either (as with Shinji). Her narrative arc as a pilot is the most complete and satisfying.

>>153173399
>Look friend, it seems you are projecting.
>I consider myself an Asuka fan, and I don't care about her skill as an Eva pilot.

No, YOU stop right there. Look at all these Asuka fans lying about her alleged "skill" and "talent" in this thread. It's already over, and you're just doing damage control. Do the responsible thing and accept that this is a common sentiment among Asuka fans.

>>153173408
https://youtu.be/ArapHa9N87Y

>>153173431
>Do the responsible thing and accept that this is a common sentiment among Asuka fans.
I don't even have an appropriate reaction image to respond to this

>>153173408
Yeah but can she beat Goku?

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>>153173408
This part:
>In EoE, she finds salvation in solitude (the A.T. field/her mother), and she can pilot to the best of her ability.
>It's not a power up

is fanwank.

Regardless of your objections, it was something given to the person in question, and all she had to do was receive. She had not taken a single step of her own to even get inside the EVA-unit, and then it's the EVA that actively reaches out and enables Asuka to fight. The ensuing fight cannot be said to be a function of ASuka's skill or talent as an EVA-pilot, it can only be said to be a function of EVA02 and the people around Asuka who took care of her.

Asuka did not overcome any weakness, and if you watch EoE, you'll see that she is acting crazy still afterwards. She is being given a freebie of massive proportions in order to enable a fight scene. It makes no sense as realistic character development either.

They dropped the ball on Asuka's character entirely in EoE. That much is a fact.

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>>153173310
Asuka is more popular than Rei, actually.

>>153169916
the power supplied to the EVAs is just to power their restraints (to suppress their godlike powers as in Episode 19), how the beings themselves are kept alive is never shown

they go beserk, in self-defence, when the power to their restraints runs out and they are then injured- hence the beserks take place during EVA-01 vs. Sachiel, Leliel and Zuruel, and EVA-02 in EoE when Asuka is being dismembered

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>>153173408
You and >>153173466
are delusional.

You aren't describing what happened, just what you wished happened. The truth is that EVA02 was the one who switched on and gave Asuka the power, not vice versa. The EVA is an entity of it's own, and can do this. Asuka did nothing but cry in fear at that point.

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>>153173531
>Asuka 1st
>Misato 5th
>Kaji 2nd to last
what horrendously awful taste

>>153173399
No, anon. Asuka fans are the ones who are insane. Look at how they ignore facts: >>153173394

and try to literally cheat and deceive with "polls" like >>153173531
taken from an insignificant russian site.

>>153173512
If you are treating the Eva at any point as an independent being from the user, then you can wave away anything Shinji did by saying that is was just Yui guiding him, and that Rei is the only one to actually fight alone.

>>153173592
Asuka was always more popular than Rei in all the west countries.

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>>153173597
>If you are treating the Eva at any point as an independent being from the user, then you can wave away anything Shinji did by saying that is was just Yui guiding him, and that Rei is the only one to actually fight alone.

I think it's reasonable to say that when Yui berserk kills an Angel, it's not up to Shinji but EVA01. But EVA01 doesn't do that all the time, only three times in total as far as I can remember.

That is just common sense. If Shinji isn't doing anything, but the EVA is, why should he get the "credit" ? In the case of Zeruel, Shinji should get a lot of credit however for having nearly beaten to death an Angel that no one else could scratch until he ran out of power.

>>153173394
I know halfway through the series they give the names for the first couple angels, but where do people get the names for the last half?

>>153172995
So it should be
Yui - 3
Shinji - 2
Shinji's mom is officially the strongest character in Eva. The two people in the world who waifufag Yui can now brag that their waifu can beat up other evafags' waifus.

>>153173667
Among the western otaku, yeah. Otaku always gravitate towards Asuka because she's easier to self-insert with romantically. Rei is more of a heroine-type, which resonates with the general audience.

>>153173740
>>153173667
When it aired on Adult Swim and TV, Rei was the favorite. Even of the TV networks themselves.

>>153173688
Looks like it was the supplementary materiel. I thought it was in Death and Rebirth, but I can't find anything scanning through right now.

>>153173466
Give up, this is the same faggot anon who's been posting threads the past couple of days about Rei being genetically superior to Asuka and insisting that Rei is not a clone, he's clearly both functionally retarded and trolling at the same time, stop responding to him. Any amount of logic or reason is lost on him, he will continually try to twist the conversation into a pathetic waifu war in the hopes of defaming Asuka or something while ignoring any and all points levied against him. It's a waste of everyone's efforts.

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>>153173889
>>153173466
Found a picture of you two Asuka fans together.

>>153173512
>fanwank
EoE explicitly showed us this. There is nothing going against it, either. EVA-02 is her mother, and in accepting that she was always there, she doesn't have a need for anybody else. She can sync without baggage and ease.
>Asuka did not overcome any weakness
Her weakness was her need for others and their validation. She overcame this by finding solitude and putting up walls in EoE. She's still crazy, but she learned to stop needing others. It's a step forward for her, and she found it herself.

She's fundamentally a child, and hardly with a clear mind throughout TV. My only argument is that Asuka's piloting skill was only really presented in EoE.

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>>153173889
But everyone knows Rei isn't a clone of Yui in NGE. The evidence isn't on the side of the few shippers who try to push that, but on the actual evangelion fans side who know better than to let fanbase politics in the way.

>>153173993
>EoE explicitly showed us this. There is nothing going against it, either. EVA-02 is her mother, and in accepting that she was always there, she doesn't have a need for anybody else. She can sync without baggage and ease.

That IS fanwank dude. You're extrapolating far too much from what was actually shown.

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>>153173688
I can't find the names for the second half of the angels within the series itself, but Gainax did release these little cards with the angels and their names on them.

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>>153173993
>EoE explicitly showed us this. There is nothing going against it, either. EVA-02 is her mother, and in accepting that she was always there, she doesn't have a need for anybody else. She can sync without baggage and ease.

That's not what happened. EVA-02 is her mother (or part of her mother) yes, but it is still her "mother" that provides the boost. It doesn't come from Asuka, but from EVA02. Like mentioned earlier, Asuka was unable to move herself or do anything on her own in the whole movie. There is no on-screen action, and only obsessed fans bother with "imagining" themselves a version of Asuka that wasn't in the movie, one that does things "off screen". It's all in your head.

The show's argument and mine, is that Asuka never had any skill in piloting the EVA. It's repeated over and over again through various narrative methods, such as showing Asuka failing constantly and ultimately having to reject her idea of herself as a good pilot. Evangelion isn't supposed to be your personal feel-good story. Asuka is supposed to suck and be a shitty pilot, that was the whole point of the character. This is just Asuka regressing as usual, and that's why she dies to prove a point: You cannot rely on Evangelion for happiness.

If you think Asuka was a good pilot, then you didn't get Evangelion. (also, how can it show Asuka's "true skill" when it's giving her handicaps like berserk eva powers? It has to be raw.)

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>>153174055
It is shown. It's a triumphant moment for her character, and the entire point of this scene is a conclusion to her arc.
She's only been shown disdain for her mother until this point. She understands and accepts that she was with her the entire time. It's hardly a reach.
Out of all the bullshit meandering Eva theorycrafting, this is not one of them. Asuka is a pathetic pilot throughout TV. This is her character redemption.

>>153174214
This is a fat load of Reifagwank.

>>153174270
It is bullshit eva theorycrafting, and how is Asuka failing to accept and cope with her mothers death triumphant? It's like giving a spoiled child what they want, and call the moment triumphant.

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>>153174286
I'm sorry that you didn't get Evangelion and have to resort to namecalling because you're angry your fantasy was destroyed. Get over it, grow up.

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What the fuck is going on in this thread? Only 66 posts in and legitimately more disturbed than the characters themselves.

>>153174333
>how is Asuka failing to accept and cope with her mothers death triumphant?
The fuck are you talking about? He's talking about Asuka accepting her mother's LIFE that's in the Eva.

>Asukafags unironically think Asuka is a skilled pilot and her failure to defeat the MP-series and then getting slain was "triumphant"

It was a cool scene, but you faggots keep ruining Evangelion for the rest of us. Asuka isn't supposed to be successful or have any strong points, that's THE WHOLE POINT YOU MORONS. GOD, YOU DONT GET IT DO YOU?

>>153174400
Her whole problem is that she's weak and can't get over her mothers death. She's unable to move on. Now , bringing back a dead character (like Gendo tries with Yui) for her to be pleased isn't the way to go. That way, she never gets over anything because her mother inside an EVA and stuck there.

Then because Asuka had NO HAND in bringing back her mother, it means that Asuka has earned nothing either. That's why she's slaughtered like a pig in the ensuing carnage. That's what the show is trying to tell you, Asuka is punished for her failure to grow as a person.

>>153174475
Yep. You are retarded.

>>153174214
>and only obsessed fans bother with "imagining" themselves a version of Asuka
I never said any of this. Asuka was practically comatose until her revelation in the lake. She was a pathetic, broken shell.
>Evangelion isn't supposed to be your personal feel-good story
It is one at it's heart. It's about self acceptance and living with yourself.
>Asuka is supposed to suck and be a shitty pilot
There's nothing implying this. There's lots of implications, of course, that she's been trained and exclusively selected. There's lots of the show telling us that her sync-ratio is a failure due to her emotional stability.
>when it's giving her handicaps like berserk eva powers
This was only in her final moments, and she achieved it by her will to not die, and her sync-ratio. She was not berserk in the entire "main" fight.

>>153174432
>failure to defeat the MP-series and then getting slain
She couldn't do anything about them being OP, and she failed because of their revival. But throughout the TV series, she's only been shat on in every way. She couldn't pilot because of her emotional state.
In her final moments, she accepted herself and everything that held her back. She could finally do fucking anything for herself (even if it was in the end futile).

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>>153174270
That's not "redemption", redemption is when you correct your mistake or atone for your sins, it's when you prove some thought or habit about you wrong. That scene with Asuka is the opposite of a redemption.

Take Rei's scene, when Rei stands accused by some of the characters to always follow Gendo's orders regardless of what they are. She's raised by him and she's just been mindwiped again, so there's reason to believe that Rei may fold here. But here she redeems herself by flat out denying him at the worst possible moment for him. She wins back her dignity and may just have saved the world in the process.

With Asuka, she doesn't choose or make something happen either, she simply receives - that isn't redeemption. It's supposed to be the opposite, because the series shows that Asuka is unable to function without piloting the EVA. Then this scene shows her functioning again - but only beacuse she's in an EVA and piloting it.

There's a reason the music isn't happy anon, it's supposed to be sad and depressing, but hey, the kids love gore.

>>153174570
>She couldn't do anything about them being OP

Oh just stop. You're a fucking loser manchild who cries that it's not muh waifus fault it's the OP world?!

Bitch, she got the first strike and could have killed the EVA's if she wanted, but she didn't even go for the S2 engines. God. You just don't fucking get the point do you? Asuka could have prevented this shit by NOT being the worst pilot and girl in the series in ANY of the previous episodes she was in. It all comes back to her now, she deserved this.

Wait a minute, Rei didn't defeat any angel in actual combat. Self destruct and throwing OP lance can't be counted as display of skill. If we consider real combat performance Shinji would be the first (Shamshel and Zeruel fight before power off), second - Asuka (Sandalphon and MP Evas), third - Rei.

>>153172601
>>153172853

She wasn't berserk while fighting the MP EVA.
What happened was that as her ego got wrecked by failure and her finding getting told about unit 02's soul, she blocked out everyone else but most of all her mother.

It's her mother basically breaking through her mask, giving her the thing she had been denying herself fit so long, motherly love, that let her snap out of it.

At that point she's basically on par with Shinji after the watermelon speech.

02 does go berserk before she gets split open.

>>153174395
It's the only true irony of EVA, these threads are a crab culture.

>>153174432
She was doing fine before they regenerated. The tragedy in that scene is that despite her mom giving her the first bit of external ego enforcement in her entire life, it's not enough. some times life still drags you through the gutter.

I'd be able to take Reifag's arguments more seriously if they weren't so goddamn mad all the time. Asuka is supposed to fail, but because of rebuild shitting on REI, they have to fanwank this idea that NGE was secretly championing Rei superiority.

Jeez, Rei's great in the original, but her story is one of grasping her own humanity and free will after being given a base ego by gendo, not struggling with an ego created to shield herself just well enough to stand tall.

>>153174688
>Asuka could have prevented this shit by NOT being the worst pilot and girl in the series in ANY of the previous episodes she was in.

This is "why didn't he want to get in the robot" tier retarded.

>>153173823
Proof?

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>>153174555
Yep. You are butthurt.

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>>153173889
>the past couple of days
He's been doing this for 3 fucking years.

>>153174642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD-Ahgdkl68
>depressing
It sounds like someone who has found their guiding light.
See >>153174710

>>153174570
>I never said any of this. Asuka was practically comatose until her revelation in the lake. She was a pathetic, broken shell.

She still is a pathetic broken shell afterwards. Didn't the anime show you that acting obnoxious or loud doesn't mean you're not broken inside? Rei is cold and like a shell outside, but she's got strong guts inside. Asuka is strong on the outside, but weak on the inside. This is a repeat of that.

>It is one at it's heart. It's about self acceptance and living with yourself.
But it's not your personal feel good story, this wasn't a good moment for Asuka and wasn't supposed to be, otherwise they wouldn't have straight out fucking murdered her afterwards.

>There's nothing implying this. There's lots of implications, of course, that she's been trained and exclusively selected. There's lots of the show telling us that her sync-ratio is a failure due to her emotional stability.

Yes, she's a failure because she's emotionally unstable, which is also the inteintion - thus, she is intended to be a shitty and sucky pilot. She is a shitty and sucky pilot too, and being flashy doesn't change that.

Down to earth Shinji & Rei make for better pilots.

>This was only in her final moments, and she achieved it by her will to not die, and her sync-ratio. She was not berserk in the entire "main" fight.
No it was from the start. I don't care if the EVA goes more berserk when she's about to receive the coup de grace, the facts are that the EVA acted on it's own and essentially provided.

>>153174710
>She was doing fine before they regenerated.
No, she didn't take out their cores, and the MP-EVA's weren't attacking her seriously. They had lances, could have used them any time or ganged up on her. The MP.EVA's are passive.

>I'd be able to take Reifag's arguments

It's not a reifag argument, it's a "I watched EoE you bastard, you can't trick me!" argument.

and no NGE is not about championing Rei, Shinji or Asuka. They're just characters. On the other hand it's Asukafags that think NGE is championing Asuka because Anno is an Asuka fan. Rebuild is what it looks like when Evangelion champions Asuka, and it isn't pretty or even good.

>>153174823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMkmQlfOJDk

*cough*

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>>153174771
>>153174810
>>153173889
When Asukafags can't accept that NGE Asuka isn't Shikinami, they always throw angry fits like this. Wake up, not everyone sees Asuka in the overblown way you do.

>>153174106
>>153173688
>>153173854
I read somewhere that apparently all the angels are based on real ones in the bible

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>>153174993
They really aren't. It's just ignorance in practice, because the old testament angels are said to have inhuman shapes. One Angel looks like a giant burning wheel, one has the face of a lion, ox and some other animal I don't remember. You can stretch it far, but in terms of design they are more based on the classic Kaiju found in Japanese special effects show like Ultraman.

Think the giant beasts from "Power Rangers".

>>153175068
No I mean, the names of the angels are taken from real ones in the bible.
Letter by letter.

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>it's fucking Reifags spilling their fan walk shit everywhere masking it with """objective""" truth
God, I'm fucking tired of it. I want 3.0+1.0 to shit on Rei completely so these faggots can finally fucking hang themselves. Fujos aren't the main problem of Eva, these pieces of human garbage are.

>>153174810
I mean, I've noticed it over the past few years. Its really annoying when they ruin threads.

I think there's three of them, and one of them posts his same mile long rants on reddit. I remember just googling some EVA shit and getting a reddit link, then checking the comments.

Some dude named fiios with hundreds of essays about how Asukafag all apparently like Shikinami. All in that uniquely accusatory tone.

>>153175109
Oh, yeah. Well in that case you're right, on most of them.

>>153175143
So because you're wrong, you want a cartoon anime so you can feel better? Anon, are you ok?

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>>153175146
It's literally just one dude with an extreme case of autism.

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If Asuka fans could show to some facts from Evangelion that Asuka wasn't as bad as people say, then I'm sure they would. I think there's a reason why they usually start shitposting when they can no defend Asuka without being caught in a lie.

>>153175209
I used to think that, but it's at least three.

I'm just getting tired of being told how much I enjoyed the rebuilds, when I was disgusted from the get go.

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>>153175109
I believe all of them are namedropped at least once in the Bible except for Tabris.

There was an /a/ thread a while back comparing the difference between the Eva versions and the Bible versions, some of them made sense but most of them seemed just randomly picked.

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>>153175316
Asuka fans are completely delusional.

>>153175109
Yes.
Also their powers in the show are always associated with light, purity, insight and fire.

>>153175209
The sad part about this picture is that most of them are actually Asuka fans. I don't see how angry posters talking about "that damned manga" with that "rei fanboy sadamoto" qualifies as Rei fans.

>>153175316
Maybe, just maybe, people enjoy the character for the flaws.

>>153175408
That picture is from 2010.

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>Eva discussion will never be possible because of Rei and Asukafags

>>153175478
What would you like to ask? We can just ignore the spergs.

>>153175508
I wanted to ask why Rei's hairstyle looks like a toiletseat.

Surely they must be some thematic importance behind it?

>>153175434
Which was just around the time Asuka shippers were the angriest. I mean, just look at those comments, nearly all of it is passive agressive or negative remarks about Rei, Rebuilds or Rei fans.

It's got posts saying Rei is for self-inserting otaku who live Shinji x Rei, it has posts lamenting the fact that the Asuka/Shinji days are over, and it even has """Rei fans""" calling Sadamoto a lazy Reifag who jerks off to Rei x Shinji.

These are asuka fans without any shadow of doubt, and this is being passed off as rei fan bad behavior? Do Asuka fans simply have no self insight ?

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Can't we just get along for once
Let's discuss something more important:

Who'd come to turn you into goo in third impact, /a/?

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>>153175434
>Maybe, just maybe, people enjoy the character for the flaws.
They don't, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much time denying she has flaws. Being the worst pilot is one flaw, but where's the Asuka fan that will admit to that?

>inb4 someone convenient comes out and does

Well what about the vast majority of asukafags in these threads that DON'T however?

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>>153175553
Don't forget the posts describing all the spawned "ShinjxRei incest faggots" and all that classic Asuka fan rhetoric. Asuka fans are generally unable to see just how cancerous they are. This is proof that they can recognize their own cancer and downright fandom-breaking behavior, but won't admit to doing it themselves.

>>153175604
Probably rei ;_;

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>>153175675
you should learn ho to save images from pivix.
Hint, loot at top left corner of image

>>153174688
why have your waifu when you can be your waifu

>reifags can't accept that they are crazy fucks and blame asukafags for everything
c l a s s i c

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Reifag hate thread? Reifag hate thread.

>>153167713
I'm sorry. You are referring to the original, correct? You wouldn't base anything on rebuilds, would you?

>>153175879
It's the other way around. Just recently, there was a ban wave going out on trolls, and it hit Asuka fans so hard for their misdeeds and /a/ trolling that their Asuka threads just flat out died.

Now the Kaworu thread on /cm/ have more threads than they do.

When Rei fans had their shitposter, they actually got together and got the guy removed and banned. It's a difference in mentality that you also see in the characters.

Rei sees her own flaws and weaknesses, and then purges them.
Asuka fans deny everything and live in a delusional dream world where dey dindu nuffin.

>>153176000
How is that not /v/-tier shitposting? It's like when console / pc warriors make those stupid fake avatars and go "ITS NOT FAAAIR THEY CANT GET AWAY WITH IT".

>>153176051
Stop stalking other peoples threads

>>153176110
>asukafags shit so hard on the threads of others they get banned into oblivion

>they have the GALL to accuse others of stalking
Rei fans don't need to stalk anyone, like loyal pets who want attention you keep showing up right at their doorstep.

>>153176182
>the poor things got b& so hard into the stoneage they even lost the ability to count and number their threads

isn't it sad?

Reifags are insane neckbreads they can't even keep up with their own thread that's why they attack others
>>>/c/2837003

>>153176051
Lol, as I said, you people are fucking crazy

>>153176366
>telling you about something that happened
>asuka fans got banned en masse by moderators who cleaned up their troll posts
>somehow I'm crazy

Wow, did you just not like hearing it or...?

>>153175537
>why Rei's hairstyle looks like a toiletseat.
It actually doesn't. If her hair was completely white and really round, then it would resemble a toilet seat, but Rei has short, blue and spiky hair and only few people who hate Rei, still try to make it a meme, and insist that her hair somehow resembles a toiletseat. So it is not about her hair looking like a toiletseat, rather its about blind hatred.

>>153176400
Nah, I don't really give a fuck, dude, its that you're absolutely mental, you sit on the Internet stalking threads and all of that. You didn't learn anything from a character you like.

>>153176441
It's actually just one Asukafag autist. Unlike Rei fans, Asuka just enable the guy.

>>153176450
Again with the "stalking" accusations, as if we are supposed to be animals in pens or something.

Also how can you say i'm stalking for just browsing for EVA threads? Shouldn't you be blaming the Asuka fans who got bans for their incessant stalking?

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>>153167713
Asuka kills Rei easily

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>>153176441
It does

>>153175353
>cucks like Rei
Of course

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Who is the best character and why is it Asuka?

>>153176946
Because she's the most realistic

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Move aside, plebs. Best Rei coming through.

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Truly the greitest.

>>153176871
>Hair is not white, but blue.
>Has bangs, and you just ignore that part.
>Hair is not round, but uneven and spiky.
Im not seeing it. This is a bit of a stretch, even for a joke. Your argument basically boils down to ''i said so!'' and ''I have le meme image''.

>>153177341
So is everything you say about Asuka

>>153177188
No, Rei II is the best Rei, since she has most character development. And rebuilds dont count anyway.

>>153177382
But we are not talking about Asuka here. Dont you try to change the subject, young man!

>>153177385
>Being this pleb.

>>153176946
>aryan beauty with a fiery personality
Gee wonder why.

>>153177188
When you take a sheet of paper and let it soak up some fat/oil, you get Rei Q.

>>153176871
I can't decide what to post.
>Don't call the shit Rei.
>Shit goes where.

>>153177532
When you take a sheet of paper and let it soak up some beta otaku faggot shit, you get Rei II.

>>153177561
I agree.

Here is an idea, they should ban Eva threads permanently until 4.0 comes out. We clearly have all seen the show, and discussed it to death, so the only thing that remains are pointless and childish arguments about waifus.

>>153177385
>falling for the bait

>>153177637
This a thousand times

>>153177637
Here's another one. Let's make Asuka autocorrect into Bratwurst and Rei into Baloney.

>>153175604
Nobody. Free at last.
Well, maybe genderbent me.

>>153177733
Holy shit, do that
MODS MODS DO THAT
HIRO WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU DO IT

>>153177637
We're not arguing about waifus, we're arguing about ships.

>>153177449
Hey man, i unironically love Rei II! I have even managed to make her a reality, by making my irl gf act more like her, getting her to cut her hair short and dye it blue, and soon i'll get her the perfect clothes. Now if only there was a way to make her eyes red...

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>>153175537
I think that Thunderbird logo looks remarkably similar.

>>153177792
Who fucking cares! It is just as stupid! You and the next 10 fucking posters should just kill yourselves!

>>153177733
No, Asuka into tampon and Rei into toilet

>>153177801
If you're doing it you have to do it together. You need to grow a Captain Ahab beard and get the shades from the Eva store.

Asuka > Rei

>>153177801
Tell her to remove her arm and through her into a tank filled with Tang, it will grow back for sure.

>>153177801
Mad respect, anon

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Truly the only Reifu.

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Can I get some wallpapers? Preferably eva 01

>>153178157
There's a thread up on /w/

>>153177861
Bring the reidick back!

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The more time I spend here the more I'm convinced that censorship is a good idea. Lack of control enables mediocrity.

>>153171290
>she had to use her wits to survive.
Didn't Shinji give her the idea?

Tell me again how 02 is the best EVA.

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>>153167713

Shinji kills a nut

I had a weird dream a few days ago. I was on the internet, browsing deepweb, when I stumbled upon evangelion season 2. They were only 240p raw videos, but there was 26 episodes, and it was all new stuff. When I woke up, I had to double check that Eva does not have a really underground, second season.

>>153179927

play AdEva senpai

>>153179959
Not the same guy, but the adeva channel is fucking weird. It's like walking into a spiritual renewal session in a diving suit.

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>>153173124
>Reifag argument
>Actually well-written and thought-out, using examples from the series and movie to prove their point

>Asukafag argument
>NOT A REAL GIRL SHES JUST A FUCKTOY YOU'RE MENTALLY ILL EVEN ANNO PREFERS ASUKA

every time

>>153180091

the developers of AdEva are autists, just ignore them and join a group on /tg/

Am I literally the only person on /a/ that likes both Rei and Asuka as characters?

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>>153180270
No you're obligated to hate at least on of them

Of course you aren't, but hey, who wants decent discussion when we can just shitpost all our threads to oblivion :^)

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>>153180270

No, I like them both too. It's not an either-or. I'm beginning to lean toward Misato being best though.

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>>153180100
So you're saying your post here is an example of the former? Caps rage and all?

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>>153180270
Of course I appreciate both of them as Evangelion characters, but when it comes to waifu wars I prefer Rei. Anyone who blindly hates a character just because of waifufagging is a complete idiot

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>>153180550
I am not making an argument, just an observation

>>153180623
Well, don't mind me observing how much of a hypocrite you are.

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>>153180643
I don't mind, observe all you want

>>153180737
Hence why you weasel worded argument into observation, I'm sure. Thank goodness for such rational and coolheaded, not to mention unbiased, posters as yourself.

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>>153180737

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So how come the adult males are, for the most part, the only ones moderately sane?

Aoba is pretty fucking chill all things considered.

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>>153181151
Aoba hated everyone bro. Hyuga was probably the most normal person at nerv.

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>>153180888
I was just pointing out that Reifags argue her as best girl with actual explanations and Asukafags argue Asuka as best girl with insults towards Rei and Reifags (toilet, fuckdoll, etc), I have never actually seen someone argue in favor of Asuka with an actual in-depth analysis of the character.
Just cause I made a generalized Asukafag argument in all caps didn't mean I was sperging out, I was just mocking people.
Not sure how that makes me a hypocrite, but since we're on an anonymous Tibetan cave-painting forum, I couldn't care less of what you think, fag

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>>153177341
Rei is a toilet

>>153173740
It's funny that you would say this considering Rei is the perfect submissive, quiet waifu. Thing is that the west doesn't have the same hard on as Japan in this type of girl.

>>153181289
>Reifags argue her as best girl with actual explanations
Funny, every time i give an in depth explanation, they either ignore everything i said, or start inuslting/meming me.

>>153173735
he's not wrong

>>153182225
>Reifags
It's actually just one turbo autist reifag that ruins every EVA thread with waifu war shit and Rei fanwank.

>>153181151
Because men are generally more sane and stable than women. And adults are generally more stable than teenagers.

>>153182223
>Rei is the perfect submissive, quiet waifu.
When will this meme end? Yes she is quiet, but she is not submissive, rather she is socially awkward. Remember when she went all pimp on shinji when they first met? Or when she was happy when speaking with Gendo? Or when she went all Diogenes on asuka, when they first met? Or how out of the kids she is the most professional and composed of the team? Or how she has some really great monologues? Or how she grew into a normal girl over the course of the series and ended her character development with giving her life for a loved one?

>>153182223
>It's funny that you would say this considering Rei is the perfect submissive, quiet waifu. Thing is that the west doesn't have the same hard on as Japan in this type of girl.

Says who? Japan loves tsunderes.

>>153182536
>but she is not submissive
She's the very definition of a submissive girl. Proof being that she follow her orders without ever questioning them and just does whatever Gendo tells her to, only exception being the very end of EoE.

>Or when she was happy when speaking with Gendo?
How that is a argument agains her being submissive or quiet? That just reinforces what I said. She's quiet and cold around everyone but her true master.

>Or when she went all Diogenes on asuka, when they first met?
Again, this isn't proof against of what I said.

>Or how out of the kids she is the most professional and composed of the team?
Yes, she is the only one who follow her orders without questioning or thinking about them, like a good obedient girl.

>Or how she has some really great monologues?
The only parts where Rei says more than 2 lines of dialogue are in Shinji mental struggles/conversations.

>Or how she grew into a normal girl over the course of the series and ended her character development with giving her life for a loved one?
You seem to be confusing what I said, never said I was completely inhuman, just that she was generally very quiet, pure and submissive, just like Japan likes it. I also never said that her character was empty, that's you projecting.
>>153182623
Asuka has too much of the tsun and too little of the dere for Japan to like her that much. Also, they like tsunderes but they also like the Rei archetype.

I will never understand what people see in Rei. She's a important piece in the plot of NGE, but how can people like her as character above everyone else is beyond me.

>>153181264
Nah, he was just a complete nihilist and way pass this shit. Hyuga was also great.

>>153182874
>Asuka has too much of the tsun and too little of the dere for Japan to like her that much. Also, they like tsunderes but they also like the Rei archetype.

So does the west. You're also acting like Japan doesn't like Asuka. They do, just not as much as Rei, which makes Asuka fans feel extremely butthurt, thinking that Japan hates Asuka while in reality she ranks very high.

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I'm just stopping by to remind everyone that Kaworu beat both Rei and Asuka for the Shinjibowl

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Manga timeline = best timeline

(1/6)

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>>153183462
(2/6)

>>153182874
Not this guy: >>153182536

But a lot of what you say isn't true.

>Yes, she is the only one who follow her orders without questioning or thinking about them, like a good obedient girl.
The thing about Rei following orders without thinking about them, what makes you think that? Do you have any examples? In the show Rei is very reflected about these things.

>How that is a argument agains her being submissive or quiet?
It's a good argument against Rei being emotionless. She does have emotions and facial expressions, they're just hard to get out since Rei is deeply unhappy.

>Again, this isn't proof against of what I said.
Why not? It does show that Rei doesn't do what everyone says. She refuses Asuka because she sees through her.

>The only parts where Rei says more than 2 lines of dialogue are in Shinji mental struggles/conversations.
Not true, she does have long internal monologues, something Asuka doesn't have at all.

>just that she was generally very quiet, pure and submissive, just like Japan likes it.
Everyone likes that. Not just Japan. If Rei was JUST pure, submissive and quiet, she wouldn't be a liked character. People like Rei's story. Remove that, and you get Rei Q, a mock character no one likes.

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>>153183490
(3/6)

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>>153183533
(4/6)

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>>153183572
(5/6)

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>>153183462
I remember laughing my ass off at Karl's autism
It just felt like I was reading Toni Takezaki's Eva tbqh
Manga Karl = best Karl

>>153183013
>how can people like her as character above everyone else is beyond me.
Maybe you should have paid attention when watching eva?
Rei's monologue from episode 25 perfectly explains what her character is about:
>No, I am me. I became myself by the instrumentality of the links and relationships between myself and others. I am formed by interaction of others. They create me as I create them. These relationships and interactions serve to shape the patterns of my heart and mind.
>Those are bonds?
>Yes. That is the name for what I share with those who have created the thing known as rei. That is what will continue to shape me.
>Those are bonds.
This scene is one of my favorite Eva scenes and it explains why I like her as a character.

>>153177801
>irl gf
Sure anon, whatever you say.

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>>153184491
>not taking my word for it.
You really are too cautious anon. I mean, why would anyone lie on the Internet?

>>153172759
Three times it went berserk.

>>153184454
>yes fellow human. Running emotion algorithm beepboop. So emotional and original. For me, that is. I am the emotional one.
>whiiirrrrr SCREEEECHCRACKANDSCARYNOISES smile.exe

>>153184901
Still better than asuka, screaming and sobbing for 5 minutes.

>>153183395
Shut up delusional fujo

>>153176014
Yes.

>>153176845
If you give them both peak power abilities, Rei wins cause she's god. At nor all teenage abilities before the end, Asuka might win, hard to say.

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>>153178864
No, Asuka gave Shinji the idea when she lorded her best tits over him.

>>153184693
Scandifag?

Rei is truly best girl, also I jelly

>>153184693
She actually seems cute
But 3DPD is PD
>>>/trash/

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>>153180270

I like both Asuka and Rei. Just relate more with Asuka.

I don't like Shikinamifags, nor do I like >>153181289 these kind of faggots.

I know first hand that to get over a massive ego and victim complex you basically have to get blown the fuck out by life. So I sympathise with someone who IS full of shit in such a way. Who uses this face of pride they have to push themselves to succeed.

Hell, I know people that act like I did before I got set straight, they act like Asuka, they push people away when they can't fit in their egocentric worldview. They aim high and succeed, but you know that if they don't open up to people, that when life throws them a curveball they will shatter.

Rei has an ego that is rock solid, if tied to Gendo for most of the series. I would argue that she's DEFINITELY overly dependent on Gendo, whereas certain Reifags seem to imply she's playing a long con. Her story is very important in the realm of self-actualisation from a position of misguided powerlessness. It doesn't however touch too much on the way a complex can impact and fuck with someone's self image if said complex has been built on a foundation of trauma.

Its just not as intersting to me because its not about coping. Its about climbing a hill instead of why you're stuck in a ditch.

It just seems strange that because I don't fall in line with the Reifags and talk loads of shit about obvious things, I'm an accomplice of the newfags who don't understand Rei's character.

>>153185799
Bestonia m8.

Did Shinji pick the "good end"?

As in, he picked the most heroic or right option for the world, given the circumstance?

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Rei is always best girl.

>>153182375
>>153181289
>>153180100
Thats the thing. There discrepency between "Best Girl meming" and actual Best Girl, and this is what causes these threads to get so dogshit.

Whenever I make a decent argument on my preferences like this anon >>153182225, I get strawmanned into some Shikinamifag. But apparently thats okay.

>>153186495
Precisely.

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>>153167713
Killing yourself should cancel out any kills you get in the process, everyone knows that, unless you kill multiples, but Rei only killed herself and one other so there's no gain.

Rei - 1
Asuka - 1(9)

Asuka wins.

I like the ending of the tv show more than end of evangelion. I have watched NGE 7 times now, and the last episode is really satisfying every time. I stopped including EOE after the second marathon, because it just wasn't as good. Most of it is fine (the eva series fight, Ritsukos death and the reveal of Gendos motivation were great) but it is not that great. And it ends in a really unsatisfactory way. Also, for some reason, some of the VA's were replaced, which made it sound all wrong.

>>153182375
>>153186599
Hey, leave me out of it, I'm a reifag.

itt reicucks btfo

>>153177850
>and the next 10 fucking posters should just kill yourselves!
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>>153178798
You heard the man.

>>153177637
I also agree with him. I Have 5 hours to
Sleep, before work and I'm sitting here in another Rei vs asuka thread, that won't solve anything and will get archived soon. I guess I can sleep on the train.

>>153187077
>no examples.
Yeah, keep being delusional asukafag.

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888

>>153167713
Shinji killed tons of people, too.

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>>153175353
>Republicans not wanting the quite emotionles girl that is quite literally pure breed that doesn't as she's told

ONE JOB. At least they got Misato right

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>>153190235
Late posting isn't good

>quiet
>does as she's told

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>>153187109
>muh delusion

>>153189817
His father and synthetic imouto have three billion each. He killed fewer than Asuka throwing a boat and karateing planes.

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>>153185361
Asuka can beat up Rei

>>153190696
Just granting everyone happiness anon :^)

Although Shinji/Yui/Rei do actually kill Gendo though. He's never seen turning into Tang

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>>153190711
Rei would dominate in the arena that counts. Oh, Asuka would try to struggle and appear like she wants to win, but that facade would quickly fade as she submits to Rei's will and receives what she truly desires. Not to win, but to be loved. She'd let Rei's skin, silky in both feel and colour, sidle over top of her as she surrenders to her will.

>>153172905
>Hate speech.
>About a fictional character from taiwanese graffitti
Top kek

>>153187080
If I'd "hear" every retard that says that, I would've offed myself many times over, my whole family would've died many times as well, and lions in Africa would be fucking extinct.
Also, you waited 10 posts to write that shit?

>>153181289
You must be new. Arguing with a Reifag is a waste of time, because the only thing they do is saying no U with fancy words. Shitposting is literally less retarded than their retorts. And since they tend to be autistic it's always fun to trigger them.

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>>153183395
Actually, Kaworu is straight.

>>153184693
>posting a picture of your gf on 4chan
That's how we know you're lying

>>153191259
Kaworu is a plot device monster of the week and also an angel so he has no sexuality. May as well argue about diamond angel's orientation. Evangelion was obviously too deep for you.

>>153191259
I really liked how former Gianax members made a clone of him and called feelings for him worthless and shitty as he is a "nothingling"

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>>153186568
Rei is never best girl.

>>153183395
To be honest, I wish. I actually don't care. I don't like muh Asuka with Shinji. She has to be with another girl. Preferably Hikari, but if not, Mari will suffice.

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>>153191343
NOVA-KUN!

>>153191354
Fun fact, Rei from Eva's name comes from this Rei from Sailor Moon because Anno was trying to convince Ikuhara to come work on the show with him.

Rei was literally a bribing chip for Anno, kek.

>>153191396
Well Nova had character growth and change through persistence

Space Patrol Luluco, I miss you so damn much

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>>153191513
But will they ever meet again?

>yfw it's revealed Nova is Kaworu from another timeloop

>>153191313
Angels are straight and hate gay people.
I know because I read the bible.

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>>153182223
>Rei is the perfect submissive, quiet waifu
If you're an idiot. The Japanese audience (men and women, normals and otaku) was captivated by the character herself, which in turn apparently lead to a greater focus on creating character who would affect the audience (moe). But (at least before) no Eva characters were created with the purpose of being "waifu'd". None are made to be the main protagonist's romantic love interest. Shit, Hikari is practically the only real gf-material character in the whole series but, unsurprisingly, she gets passed over.

I don't know westerners are so obsessed with this "perfect submissive, quiet" stereotype; it almost always sums up to griping over others liking what you don't. All sorts of characters can become beloved for all sorts of reasons and the mania surrounding Eva's characters more than proved that.

>>153192640
Those classmates are like the most underrated/underlooked over characters in the series

They're Shinji's stepping stones to being a person even before Asuka

>>153191354

Your premise is flawed,
You forgot about evangelion.

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>>153193233
One of my most enduring disappointments in Eva is that I didn't get to see Kensuke tanged by a F/A-18.

>>153193556
>off by one

>>153194268
Toji and his sister would have been heartwarming as shit

That guy just disappears after Toji's incident. Toji was supposed to die iirc but they couldn't show a kid dying on TV but he did die in the manga iirc

>>153174214
The only boost that she receives is the knowledge that her mother has been watching over her and thereby acknowledging her. This only gives Asuka positive reinforcement, what strength Asuka has is her's alone, her will is what strengthens.

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>>153194458
First ones in when Shinji begins his arc opening up and getting close to people, first out after the dummy plug and Shinji starts losing everything episode by episode.

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>>153172443
>>153193233
This, Toji a best.
Fuck y'all he's my favorite Eva character, even if we don't go as deep into him as we do with Shinji, Asuka and Misato, he is the one who captivated me the most, and I'd argue his character arc is on par with Rei's at least. If he had the chance to pilot he's probably have kicked all the ass.
His relationship with Shinji simply beautiful and trumps over a lot of other character relationships in the show.
Kensuke is great while he's there too, his scene alone with Shinji episode 4 is god tier just like the rest of the episode. It's a shame he gets barely any screen time.

>>153194946
>>153194819
Having such simple people existing in the hell that is Shinji's life was beautiful. I am somewhat glad. He becoming a pilot for his sister was heart warming/breaking at the same time.

I'm a bit sad with how Eva ended and will always be bothered with EoE's apocalyptic nature of Blood oceans.

Asuka ended NGE broken or hell on earth. Her plot resolution just missed out on 26 and isn't nullified by S2 engines


Rei 3 just happened, and the only Rei I wa starting to like left us

Misato just doesn't get explored in 26 after the opening in 25

All of his classmates left due to the explosion. Even took Pen Pen

Literally Episodes 25&26 are some of the most saddening/unfinished stories narrative wise after you ignore Shinji (albeit very good) experience

Eva, how can I find you so intresting and unsatisfying. /blog post

>>153196301
Here's Shinji's VA after episode 26 in character commentary in the dub

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kGMuaXIlckU

>>153194946
>Toji a best
I had a good laugh at this scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ceXJGnx4wM

>>153196301
I think EoE is a bittersweet ending, since it's said everyone can come out of the tang, if they want too. Asuka just came first because of how much resolution she had in her final moments and all the things she has in common with Shinji, the one who was the center of the whole thing.
Meaning that Shinji would eventually meet with Misato and Toji again, but now would be able to understand them better.
The big problem is that the world is fucked and destroyed. Rei and Kaworu are probably not coming back too.
I do feel Asuka had a good ending in EoE tho, better than everyone else's other than Shinji.
Rei II had great conclusion too.
Now that you brought it up, it's really dumb we don't any of the male figures in Shinji's life during instrumentality, not in the same way we saw the female ones at least. Toji/Kensuke, Kaji and Kaworu all have a huge impact in Shinji's life.
Thinking about missed opportunities in Eva is depressing.
>>153196673
These two had a great dynamic, it's basically the opposite of Asuka and Shinji's, they seem similar on a surface level, like this scene, but are completely different and can handle being around each other.

>>153186314
>Its just not as intersting to me because its not about coping. Its about climbing a hill instead of why you're stuck in a ditch.

A ditch is nothing more than an inverted hill. You still have to climb it to get out. Your pathetic point of view is why you're pathetic, and it's why Asuka is pathetic, you want to "cope" AKA stagnate rather than improve, and you "cop" by relentlessly attacking everyone else.

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>>153194946
I wish we got more scenes of them

>>153197562
Me too, interactions with Kaworu would be awesome too

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>>153194946

The best part about that line is how it's canon that all the students in that class were pilot candidates.

Could have been a contender Kensuke; Just needed more mommy issues.

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>>153197612
They get along pretty well in the Drama CD

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>>153197684
asuka did nothing wrong why would anyone be mean to her

>>153197684
>I suppose the only things you lack are restraint and brains
Kaworu is fucking savage

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who was the best angel?

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>>153197819
Adam

>>153197680
Want to know something really cool?
If Toji had come in and piloted while Asuka was going full retard....they would have no logical reaoson to keep asuka on.
She mostly does more harm then good.
It would have been the three amigos fighting against evil angels and then finally destroying adam and lilith and giving humanity a second chance.

>>153197912
>...
>shit taste
Not surprised some elipses spamming fucktard wouldn't like Asuka.

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>>153197912
sounds stupid

>>153197912
If you destroy Lilith humanity dies retard

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>>153197912

While that's an interesting theory; Toji was weak in his metrics as a pilot. His sync ratio was in the border zone and would be unusable for anything more impressive than testing. If an EVA could have been tailored to his psyche, he could have compared to Asuka in effectiveness, but depending on the prevailing theory, that would require a time machine or the ghost busters.

Asuka was trained and effective in theory. The problem is that theory only worked so far with EVAs. This is why the barely-trained Shinji improved drastically with socialization, minor training and self-confidence, while Asuka went into a steady decline as her pride was undermined, her achievements rendered irrelevant and her personality flaws bled her of any social attachment she could desire.

Actual pilot rankings ranked on metrics:

Asuka
Rei
Shinji
Toji

Practical ranking:

Shinji
Rei
Asuka
Toji

I'll note that if NERV invested any significant money or effort into pilot mental health, Asuka would have maintained excellent combat effectiveness until the Arael incident.

This is also consistant with EOE; Where Asuka demonstrates exemplary combat effectiveness when she's not paralyzed by self-loathing. Since the misconception is common, I'll remind you all that Unit 02 was not berserking during EOE, It was awake. The distinction is subtle, but important: Asuka and Unit 02 were working as a single organism, and demonstrated (to a point) the sheer will a functional Human-EVA pair could exert on the universe.

Pity about the whole "SEELE can literally keep doing this till the end of the planet and NERV's equipment was intentionally kept at a level to be neutralizable by SEELE's gear."

>>153197680
The best part about it is that he's both a pilot and a weirdo
>>153197684
What a couple of mean boys, what is the context of this? Is the whole thing translated?
>>153198259
Well, I believe he could have become an effiencient pilot given some time and training.
Toji was doing it for his sister, he'd put his whole heart into it. And his mom is implied to be dead, maybe NERV has her soul, they did salvage Rei's from her dead body.