How are they going to make Roshi relevant again? What's

>>153108441
Same purpose that everyone not named Goku has, to job.

>gets killed by bad guy
>wtf i hate this bad guy
>learns from some new secret high level kai
>roshi wills himself into the living with new powers

won't he just be like Piccolo?

>>153108529
I know this is exactly what will happen, but would it be too much to ask for Roshi, and maybe Krillin, to take out some of the opposition? There's no way everyone in the tourney is Goku levels of strong.

what if Roshi has been training and is now Piccolo levels of strong?

To show how strong the other guy is. You should know this by now, this is shounen 101.

>>153108661
He'd fucking have to be considering I'm 99% sure Yamcha was supposed to be stronger than him before Revival of F came out.

inb4 he downs 5 dozen senzu beans and goes worldbreaker hulk for one last fight

>>153108441
>How are they going to make Roshi relevant again?
By fighting people at his level.

>What's his purpose on Team Universe 7?
Beating weakling so Goku, Vegeta and maybe Gohan can focus in the strong ones.

Don't underestimate his techniques. He might put them in a rice cooker.

>>153108441
Considering that frame, he will do something badass, one single thing, and then nothing.

>>153108862
That's more than he did in DBZ.

>>153108441
Use the catalog retard >>153107987

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Winnie the Pooh wasn't Super Saiyan Blue tier, he just had a weird gimmick that Goku had to out think. Roshi will probably have enemies like this.

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Why does DBS hate these two so much?

>>153108441
That's Jackie Chun.

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>>153108441
Between the cool opening, the new and good animation and fan favorites getting back in action, this arc is getting really promising. I've been skeptical about DBS from the start, but I actually have high hopes for this season.

>>153109146
Toriyama has no fucking idea what to do with them. Them being Super Saiyans makes no in-canon sense (inb4 hurr durr super saiyan semen) and the only out-of-canon reason to do this is to make sure they wouldn't fall too far behind the power creep in the Buu saga. This would mean anything if Toriyama didn't almost instantly abandon them as plot-pivotal characters.

At this point, where they are minor characters with zero impact on the plot, it'd make more sense if they were about as strong as Goku in early dragonball.

Isn't the old fuck immortal?

Jobbing to female broly

As much of a pipe dream as it is, I'd like to see him instill some humility back into the Z Fighters.

His message of there always being someone stronger and not to get complacent is more relevant than ever.

>>153109146
I had hopes that seeing future Trunks be a bad ass would kick Trunks into gear training with Vegeta and we'd get some Gotenks action again. But nope.

>>153108441
Remove Saiyans.

>>153109146

They killed Hitler

>>153108847
senzu beans aren't power ups they're basically max potion in a rpg kind of way,

There needs to be "weight classes" in this tourney

>Goku/Vegeta
>Gohan/Buu class
>Piccolo/17/18 class
>Tien/Krillin class
>Roshi class

Each team needs to have victories in each class to win

Toto/Tori will make him as strong as they need him to be. Fuck off with your powerlevelfaggotry.

>>153108441
Is it ring out rules?
He could use the Mafuba to throw them off the ring.

>>153113264
you think they will do it KOF style fight intil everyone on the team is down?

He's literally only there for fanservice. Not that there's anything wrong with that in this situation, the old fuck deserves some proper screen time. He won't be relevant anymore after he inevitably loses.

I have officially now stopped caring whatever the hell people say about me. Fuck. Girl Brolly. The most stupid, asspull, pandering, goofy thing toriyama could have done. The recent rise in r34 spammed has removed any last bit of pity i had. why do we only see pandering? Why don't we see Db super in the "best xxxx of the year" lists? Why don't we see other shows have such pandering asspulls? Why is it only letdowns that we see? People must realise there is not a problem with suggesting ideas, there is a fucking problem with worshipping a stale ass dickless betamale meat man (kakkarot be upon him). I am sick and tired of these asspulls, i am sick and tired of the fandom having to deal with this bullshit, we fucking give the another chance and all they do is not develop and explore ideas and claim new animators are responsible and claim themselves to be above the animators who were there for decades. Throughout my life i have always defended plotholes in dragon ball (which i am now doubting they can be salvaged ) and told people to not generalise the whole dragon ball series but this is fucking enough, this anime is fucking ruining our way of life, either toei trys to fire these retarded animators who can't stay on model/fire the people who can't be consistent with the previously established rules of the franchise, and try to stop them, or they can get the fuck out of the anime industry and end db super. I am so sorry for any toei person who understands theses things out there, i really am, but i have to vent out this rage. Sadly, dragon ball in its current form is not compatible with the 21st century, like it or not. I excuse myself again, i must now go sacrifice a db ssblue toy, because gt

>>153108441
>Doesn't fly because that's the crane-school technique
>Enemy flies out of range
>Suddenly shoots off special kamehamehas from his back like thrusters to fly faster than any other character
No other way for him to be relevant outside of gags

roshi is the master of bullshit tournament-only tactics

>hypnotize opponent
>push them out of ring

victory

>>153110113
hurr durr super saiyan semen

>>153113491
Nice pasta.

Master Roshi should have remained dead after the Piccolo Daimaou arc.

>>153108854
Either it would fail and he'd die, or it would succeed but he forgot the seal back at home.

Man, I wish actual technique was drummed up as much as raw strength.

>>153108441
Same thing they did on Super, have him beat up some nobodies that should still be way out of his league, and not bother explaining why he can do it.

>>153113277
And die in the process.

>>153108661
>>153108773

But these days not fighting strong people for a week or a month makes you lose your bulletproof powers so maybe everyone else got weak.

>>153109137
Where's uncensored

>>153108441
He ate a mountain of weed during the filler. His opponents will have to resign out of sheer respect of that feat.

You are under the though that everyone in other universe are all as strong as goku.

I'm sure every universe has its jobbers

>>153108441
>what's his purpose on Team Universe 7?
Defeating Girly with groping

>>153119705
What's the last time the way people fought was more important than how strong they are?

Desperately hoping that they can do an LOL ROSHI IS SUCH A PERV joke to help sell tranny broly...which will both fail and leave everyone slightly creeped out.

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How long can we expect this arc to be?

Will Toriyama be madman enough to go through with the of destruction of 11 universes thing and have Goku reflect on all the pain and suffering he's caused just for his combat lust to be sated?

>>153123533
hit

>>153108441
He'll probably fight Brolyna's base form and somehow trigger her SSJ form losing instantly.

>>153108441
>Some dude that can copy other people's power level
>They send in Roshi
>It literally becomes a battle of pure technique and Roshi wins
>Gets knocked out by Brolyko next match

Come on Toei

Who is the best Dragon Ball waifu?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12280540
.

>>153123756
Let's be honest. The only people who're watching DBS STILL right now are people who're doing it out of nostalgia.
And of those people...not a single solitary one will be surprised by that or be amused by it.
As a matter of fact most people will be utterly pissed that three things that could have been done okay and made the entire DBS thing a bit better were wasted on a bad joke.

>>153124141
During Black arc, it rivaled OP in ratings. So lot more people watch it than you think

People dislike Roshi?

Toonami Generation I suppose

>>153109137
Why was she naked in the first place?

Bring back Jackie Chun

#MakeDragonBallGreatAgain

>>153111917
You mean they RE-killed him

>>153124509
You wouldn't be naked all the time if you looked like her?

>>153124375
what's op

>>153108661
What if that's what all those plants Krillin and Goku got him was for?

>>153124984
Single Portion the anime about a guy in a sunhat who wants to rule over somalian water gangsters

the immortal human super human master roshi

>>153126583
KEK

>>153108441
You don't expect everyone to be Goku/Vegeta level do you?

>>153124450
A bunch of punks all of them.

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>>153108441
Dude this is Super. Even fucking Krillin is a planet burster and yet he got hurt by a fucking bullet. To make it more absurd the same happend shortly after to Goku. Meanwhile in the original Dragonball Launch shots a bullet rain on both faggots when they were still 12 or what and they didn't even give a fuck.

This show is absolute trash when it's about powerlevels or logic, just watch it for the flashy fights like everyone else.

>>153124450
This is about logic not liking or disliking a character you retarded dumbfuck. Their universe is going to be obliterated when they lose the tournament and yet they bring an old man who would fucking shit his pants in front of Raditz while they have Yamcha, Chaozu and literally a whole universe full of alien creatures with most being stronger than Roshi very very likely.

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>>153128044
>or what and they didn't even give a fuck.
I wish people with worse memory than Toriyama didn't try to be smartasses.

>>153128186
Wait until the story get there. Making story criticisms before seeing the story is silly.

>>153128221
And this proofs what exactly except me being right? Those are scratches, from fucking machine guns. And that time they weren't fucking planet/galaxy bursters.

>>153128249
There is literally no excuse for Roshi being on the team. A random power up would be bad writing so what other option do we have? None. Therefore yes, criticism is in fucking order here

>>153128363
>A random power up would be bad writing
>caring about bad writing
>on Dragonball past Cell

I thought everyone knew that the writing went to shit a long time ago.

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>>153128389
>comparing the writing of Z to that of Super
son

What is his actual name? Muten Roshi and Kame Sennin are titles, and Jackie Chun is just a pseudonym

>>153128433
>my bad writing is better than your bad writing

next you'll say that GT writing is good.

>>153124509
why is bad edit?

>>153128299
Roshi and Kuririn clearly have bullet holes, and one of them even coming from the back of Roshi's head.

Goku only has scratches though, which is exactly what we see now. If they don't stop the bullets with their ki Goku can be scratched by them while Kuririn can bleed.

Roshi is as strong as Jackie Chun, so he should do pretty well.

>>153128363
>A random power up would be bad writing
Nah. You eat up Zenkai being a thing even though they were never mentioned before Namek. It wouldn't be hard to write a believable power up considering those standards.

>>153128221
why were they being shot at? launch?

>>153108441
Is he ever gonna peacefully pass away for good?

>>153108441
The sole purpose is trolling autists who make stupid threads such as this one.

Reminder that Broly is merely a meme in Japan.

>>153128498
>I can bench a planet now, my body is maximum
>Yes I obviously still take exactly the same amount of damage from as when I was a kid training with a heavy as fuck turtle shell
Something seems to be wrong with this one anon, can you tell me what it is?

>>153128484
The writing of Z being shit or not is a matter of taste. Goku forgetting his Senzu beans in a life or death situation, Gohan being a cumslut and basically the whole character of Vegeta, that is undeniably bad writing, plain and simple.

>>153128551
Goku did get stronger in an absurd amount of time, especially when he was beaten. Sure it was kind of an asspull but you can't really compare that to a "zenkai" or similar ability for humans, that would be just absolute horse shit. The most believable thing for a power up would be taking him to elder kai to unlock his power. Hell that would be the realistic and sane thing to do for every participant if the universe is on the line. But lets wait and see, they'll probably just take him along without a power up at all.

New enemy has a time gimmick. Roshi is immune to it because he doesn't age.

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Roshi exist only to deal with fem broly as a gag. He is going to grope her base form and send her into a homicidal rage. Roshi will them elope after some heartfelt speech.

The only reason I see for Roshi to be on the team is as kind of a coach. Then again it's pretty reckless to waste a spot on the team for some good advice of an old perverted man

>>153108441

When Roshi takes his glases off, his powerleel increases by 1,000,000,000

The only other choice is Yamcha.

Would you pick HIM over Roshi?

>>153128692
What does that even mean?

>>153128723
>The writing of Z being shit or not is a matter of taste. Goku forgetting his Senzu beans in a life or death situation, Gohan being a cumslut and basically the whole character of Vegeta, that is undeniably bad writing, plain and simple.

It's fun because those are actual character development (especially Gohan: it's true that his fans like his powerlevels and not it's characterization), but what do I know?

>Goku forgetting his Senzu beans in a life or death situation

this is an actual fuckery, bt it's not as bad as lol I don't know who the fuck sohuld defeat Majin Bu.

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>>153129140
>those are actual character development
No. Sorry but just no. The prideful prince of all Saiyans being in a more buddy like relationship with Goku is ok, he came to terms with his shit in the last episodes of Z after all. Him acting like a fucking retard all the time however is just out of character and bad writing. His whole character feels like a parody of the real thing.
Gohan becoming a scholar is character development. Him becoming a cumslut lol lets see if I can still go SSJ is just outright retarded.

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>>153129301
>parody of the original character
who am I kidding, everything fine here

>>153124450
They just cant handle Based Roshi

>>153128186
>Implying
After weed roshi ate he is unstoppable

>>153128571
>hating on based roshi

>>153108441
Comedy Relief

He'll get himself sent in against a hot alien babe opponent and he'll continue to grope at her as he gets more and more beat up, but he'll keep coming back to touch her more

Have Beerus and Whis tried mexican food yet?

>>153119705
pandering to power level fags sucked all the fun out of the u6 tournament and its going to ruin this one too

>>153128186
>logic

No. This is about entertainment. Powerlevelfags butthurt about Roshi come up with some boring ass shit.

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>>153108441
>yfw roshi win tournament

You know, it could have been worse.

Goku could have opnely requested Monaka.

>>153124450
I wonder how many of them have actually seen OG Dragon Ball.

>>153129790
Entertainment needs internal logic.

Well, he invented the coolest, signature ki attack in the show after all. He's pretty good.

>>153129999
No you don't. That's why you're watching Dragon Ball instead of the Discovery Channel. Entertainment should always trump logic, particularly if the "logical" solution would make for a less interesting story.

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leave roshi to me

>>153128551
Goku used Zenkai to beat piccolo after that poison nearly killed him in db

>>153108661
Piccolo is above frieza level.

Normal humans should never get that strong. That level is stronger than a super saiyan.

If you remember Piccolo was as strong or stronger than the androids which were stomping all over vegetas ss1 level.

Roshi is only weak in DB because he was old. The special grass Krillin and Goku found elongated his lifespan by 1,000 years, which in turn puts him back in his prime. We have literally never seen Roshi at max ability.

>>153130409
This. Seriously can't believe people overlooked that detail they snuck in.

>>153130357
Half breeds while trained can completely outshine full blooded saiyans. And tailless half breeds who have more dominant human genes even more so. What does this tell us? That humans have more potential than Saiyans but saiyan genes bring that out.

>>153130409
>Roshi is only weak in DB
He was a powerhouse in DB until Piccolo was intoduced.
Also in RoF we've seen him beat up freeza soldiers so his powerlevel must be atleast saiyajin saga level now

>>153130625
Roshi was weaker than Tien

>>153124450
Toonami aired Dragonball, so it's not an issue of people not having seen the first series.

>>153128498
>If they don't stop the bullets with their ki Goku can be scratched by them while Kuririn can bleed.

What exactly makes you say that they can stop the bullets with their ki? I believe this has never happened and you just try to apply your own logic. That's like me saying they can stop the bullets if they just tense their muscles because we've seen what they can do.

At this point it just looks like you're nitpicking at the other guy for being correct. Those "bullet holes" are clearly just for comedic reasons seeing they're not dead from those holes in their heads and are just minor wounds anyway.

>>153110232
Yeah, but he can still be killed. He just won't die of old age.

>>153121127
>makes you lose your bulletproof powers
this scene was 100% shit

>>153124450
They're angry because he "stole" Frieza/Cell's "spot".

Same logic as people who believe in "slots" in fighting game rosters.

>>153132213
Give me any reason why reviving a canon villain clearly much more powerful than Roshi wouldn't be fucking hype? They're already doing it with 17.

Plus it makes sense if they want their universe to win and not get erased to get the strongest possible. I doubt one of them would refuse given that universal destruction gets in the way of their own plans for domination.

>>153132403
Well, Frieza's too prideful to be working with saiyans, while Cell would probably try to blow himself up, which is just a waste. So, that leaves Roshi.

>>153132403
>Goku will never revive Raditz and make up with him
why

>>153108441
Isn't he like even stronger than Krillin, but his difference being that he just doesn't know how to fly?

>>153128044
ki fighters are vulnerable when they don't have their ki shield/reinforcement up. Maintaining them constantly is resource expensive. And the overwhelming vast majority of the 'power level' comes how good you are at controlling and gathering ki.

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>>153135490
no, that's Mr. Satan

>>153135333
Frieza and Cell would just turn out difficult and uncooperative.

Roshi's fine. The team's already full of former villains as it is.

>>153128723
>I can bench a planet now, my body is maximum
>Yes I obviously still take exactly the same amount of damage from as when I was a kid training with a heavy as fuck turtle shell
>Something seems to be wrong with this one anon, can you tell me what it is?

Having super strength doesn't automatically mean you are super tough.
Almost all the fighting capabilities in DBZ comes from the usage of KI. Maintaining the usage of ki for reinforcement/barrier isn't cheap, so people can't afford to keep their buffs constantly.

>>153108854
If there's a ring out rule, just imagine how useful the mafuba would be, even without a pot.

>>153135674
Mr. Satan should have been on the tournament team. I don't know what Goku was thinking, leaving out Earth's greatest hero.

>>153109146
the fact that little Trunks hasn't asked Vegeta for training after seeing his older self struggle so much and losing his family triggers me

>>153133270
>Well, Frieza's too prideful to be working with saiyans
He's also in hell at the moment.

>>153128186
>literally a whole universe full of alien creatures with most being stronger than Roshi
Roshi fought on par with Jaco, I really doubt you'll find much out there stronger than him.

>>153108441
to perv on the hot female god of destruction

>tfw getting hype for possible Jackie Chun-like Roshi awesomeness
>tfw will be let down because everything from DB exists almost solely for gaggu

>>153137593
How powerful is Jaco though? He's strong and take on sea monsters like they are nothing, but in the current timeline he's treated as a total joke compared to the other fighters?

>>153119705
I can't understand why this is a complaint anymore. How many decades will people bitch about the manga not being like the beginning of the series when roshi was the gold standard of power

>>153132403
17 was never actually a villain you dolt

get your fanfic "what if the villain was good xD" shit out of here

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>>153140141
Is there any Dragon Ball female who hasn't gotten fucked by Roshi in a doujin? Serious question.

>>153140311
Giroly, but it's a matter of time.

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>>153128044
I miss the laser meme.

He's going to be killed off in his match. The twist is that anyone who dies in the tournament doesn't get an afterlife and cannot be brought back.

>>153139956
well he was in future trunks timeline

>>153108661
ningen body limits are gone?

>>153119705
In a universe where you can turn around the corner and find a guy that is literally a million of times stronger than you for some arbitrary reason, technique is not going to matter as much as surpassing your opponents by raw strength. When the zeros in your power level start rising, it becomes almost impossible to find an even opponent, as the differences in power are just too wide. It's too much of a coincidence when you have a power level of 920.000.000 and you happen to find a worthy opponent of 870.000.000, but then a few steps ahead you find some guy with a power level of 970.000.000.000.000, which means you're nothing to him and even less to those who may be stronger than him by leagues.

>>153131424
Gohan stopped a bullet with his ki while in highschool. Remember the robbers?

>>153109146
Goten turned out to be a failure of a new protagonist, so Toriyama is just throwing him away. Kid Trunks as well.

They are only there to fuse as Gotenks, make a joke, and then lose. They'll never be seen fighting anyone 1v1 or even 2v1 again.
I was actually interested to think Goten was going to train with Whis. But of course Chi Chi and Trunks had to ruin that.

>>153129803
But that would make me happy, so it cannot be.

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>A whole Dragon Ball Super thread without anybody peddling the "woah what if Goku is evil now dude lmao" narrative that's been going on for the last few days
I'm honestly impressed

>>153108441
Considering that power levels functionally don't exist in super I wouldn't be surprised if Roshi actually wins a fight. Presumably though he's ultimately around to act perverted and job.

i hope "goku is evil" doesn't become the next "goten is black"

>>153143541
I didn't even know that was a thing.

He's obviously in over his head but I wouldn't call that "evil".

Am I the only one excited about my nigga Tien getting more action?

>>153123677
>Universe 7 is the only universe left
>After Goku has fucked up Beerus gives him the biggest punishment of all. Taking away his god powers and wipes the memories he along the rest of the ''earthlings'' has of Beerus and the rest of the gods.
>Goku now wakes up one day, and continues on training till he dies.
>He can't go beyond SSJ3
How mad would you be /a/?

>>153147460
Even Toriyama isn't that bad of a writer.
It'd be more likely for Goku to turn evil.

>>153147460
I think a more likely outcome is Good keep pushing for fights even at these insane stakes, and Vegeta has to beat some sense into him


It was already foreshadowed with Goku wanting Vegeta to skip the birth of his kid (lol), and fits the character arc of both. Gokus lust for battle has only gotten worse as the series progressed, and Vegeta has mellowed.

>>153148053
>Goku has literally become FIGHT ME
I don't know what to fell anymore. I love having DB be part of my life again, but this Goku kind of scares me. Kind of ironic how not even Black Goku is as evil as the real Goku.

>No Goku, you are the powerlevelfags

What's with this Goku is evil thing?

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>>153149094
>and then Goku was Broly