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Episode 17 soon.
Are you ready for more Tales of Rose?
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After last week's development, I'm actually looking forward to it and I'm not a Rosefag.
How did the japanese rate last week's episode?
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>>153085495
It got 80 something in Nico ratings. The one before that got 90 something because of Alisha at the end I guess.

Also, bilibili is lagging the fuck out for me, I hope it fixes itself soon.
I don't want to miss Rose's suffering.
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>>153085495
>dat dislocated shoulder
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>>153085568
It always fixes itself when the anime start airing, don't worry.
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I had the most wonderful dream where Rose was my wife and I loved Rose and we had many ugly children together and Rose was cute. Cute!
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>>153085638
It's still lagging like shit.
Suffering. I might have to bail this one until the rips are uploaded.
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kek
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so this is the power of malevolence
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wet sexy rose
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>>153085854
>like a dead fish
>disappointment on her partner's face
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Oh boy muh moralfag speech
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killing people is wrong
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edna prpr
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I want to correct Rose's life and fuck her out of love.
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>>153085854
>Wah, what are we gonna do on the beach?
>flop =3
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Did they let her kill the evil prince? Or did they try some stupid morals shit again? I'm not an edgelord but the dude clearly deserves it.
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>>153085915
> When the shepherd goes in the rear
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was it rape
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>>153086134
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>>153086177
What a cutie
Where did everything go so wrong.
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Smile protected
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>>153086134
>>153086139
>>153086149
>>153086162
I've read enough doujins to know where this is going.
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>>153086134
>>153086139
>>153086149
>>153086162
>>153086177
Oh no. Must protect loli.
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>you will never have a loli assassin
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>no hellionization
>not even a squire pact
Goddammit.
At least we had lots of delicious suffering.
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>"We can't give into anger and revenge!"
>[muffled ARTORIOUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS screams in the distance]
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>>153086134
No. Reason: She's wet.
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kek
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>>153086331
>>"We can't give into anger and revenge!"
>>[muffled ARTORIOUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS screams in the distance]

I have a feeling a spirit of Velvet will meet the Zesteria crew before the final boss
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pretty much the same as last week
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>>153086355
>the face of suffering
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>>153086425
Don't even bother holding your breath on that.
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>sorey and mikleo calling dezel cool
Good thing this isn't canon
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>>153086355
Needs some pure and warm Alisha to mend this cold and shattered heart and restore her smile.
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>>153086425
>>153086475
Given who Maotelus actually IS... there's a chance.
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Wow, Rose is an actual character.
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>in the game they say sometimes people need to die for being absolute cunts
>in the anime no one deserves to die and naive idealism saves the day
Makes you think.
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>>153086476
Game Dezel I can see them calling cool, if only for his knowledge and the fact that he will willingly teach them.
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>>153086443
>箱に
Is that niconico slang? What does it mean?
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>>153086508
They just gave her a sad backstory, it kinda disgusts me that you're posting an image of an actual actual character.
>>153086520
Rose's issues in the game Zestiria are basically being praised for murdering everything, and here we praise naive idiots for being overly idealistic. They got it right with Berseria in that sometimes murder is right, and sometimes its just selfishness, which the protags themselves acknowledge.
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Just like a dead fish.
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>>153086494
Considering how much anime original bullshit is happening right now and the pacing, I doubt it'll even get to Maotelus or even have time to talk about him, nevermind having enough time for Velvet to appear.
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>>153086607
You can't finish the story without the final boss
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>>153086637
And this story hasn't even begun the journey there.
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Artorious was a better Shepard then Sorey
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>Game Rose
>faking it till she makes it
>Anime Rose
>faking it till she breaks
Am I getting this right? Is this why she was an emotionless sociopath in the game?
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>>153086671
Better at getting stabbed through the chest
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>>153086582
Was thinking of Sorey killing Heldalf in that one.
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>>153086679
> Emotionless sociopath
That's a funny way of spelling "Perfect waifu who can't do no wrong"
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>>153086671
Eleanor >>>>> every other Shepherd
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>>153086637
Just wait for the 3 minutes comb- I mean purification final boss, with more Rose and Alisha in the epilogue.
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>>153086726
TFW the best Shephards and god of the Shepard religion all became better people by joining an edgelord on her senseless murder quest
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>>153086705
Still did more good then Sorey even if it costs some lives
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>>153086671
Better than Game Sorey? Nope. Game Sorey basically fixed all of the previous shit Shepherds' and Lailah's messes. And has a better chance of actually fixing malevolence in a way that won't harm people.

Better than anime Sorey? Yes, because at least he fucking did something to try and solve malevolence and doesn't just follow around an assassin when he has better things to do.
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>>153086806
It really speaks volumes that Zestiria can be boiled down to "Oh MAN did Lailah fuck up"
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>>153086134
>>153086149
Already wet.
Time for my penis to act.
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>>153086726
Game Sorey=Eleanor >>>>>>>>>shit>>>>> anime Sorey>>> Every other shepherd.
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>>153086893
Game Sorey had shitter Lailah as a Prime Lord while Eleanor has fucking Maotelus.
It's clear who the superior one is here.
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>>153086851
Sorey was raised specifically to fix Lailah's messes, and yet Lailah still almost fucked that up. Luckily her "lessons" to Sorey didn't stick, and Apple dragon told Sorey the fucking truth.
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>>153086932
Ah, but Maotelus guided Sorey, which is why Sorey came up with the idea that he shouldn't listen to Lailah.

Besides it's much more impressive that Sorey succeeded considering how shit his prime lord is at her job.
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Lailah did nothing wrong
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>>153087077
Lailah did everything wrong. She's not even a good onee-san.
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>>153087077
Shut up Melchior.
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>>153086932
The Iris Gems were made by Maotelus in order to guide Sorey.

Apple Dragon was a hellion and yet still had to protect Sorey from her bullshit.
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>>153087077
Remember your oath, Lailah. SHUT THE FUCK UP ya dumb bitch
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Damn.
Right into the babymaker.
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>>153087077
Reminder that Lailah remained in the Heavenly Realm during Berseria, and we all know what those Seraphs wanted
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So I've been playing Bersia latley and the only other Tales game I have played is Zestria

are Malak and Seraphim the same thing?
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>>153087347
Yes
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>>153086588
The's a big knife.
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>>153087077
Would Lailah be smarter if you gave her the D?
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>>153087324
Next game, Lailah is the final boss. A lord of calamity and Shepherd once again join hands to go up against a foe that threatens the world.

Sorey, Mikleo, and Apple Dragon are party members.
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Some seraphim just want to watch the world burn.
Pic 110% related.
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>>153087464
No Velvet no buy
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>>153087484
She shows up as a spiritual guide, teaching Sorey and Mikleo what it's like to have a real Oneechan.
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>>153087077
I forgot what she even accomplished in the actual game.
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>>153087557
Lailah caused literally everything that went wrong
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>>153087434
You mean would she make better life choices? maybe her heart is very cold for a fire spirit
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>>153087579
I swear everything about Lailah is a black hole for me. Granted, I got bored with the plot midday and just wanted to kind end it at one point.
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>>153087557
Nothing, all the leg work was done by Sorey and Maotelus was the one who actually guided Sorey, while Mikleo ensured that he wouldn't go insane from her bullshit.

Hell it's even Sorey's idea to use squires to purify the land. Lailah didn't do shit except lament about why Sorey couldn't be more like Rose, while Sorey's ideas actually fixed things.
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This episode actually made me feel really bad for Rose.
I want to tuck her in a warm bed and wrap her up in a dry and fluffy blanket and hug her and let her cry all her bottled up pain and sorrow of the last five years into my chest while softly patting her head until she falls asleep.
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>>153087630
Lailah is basically the KonoAqua of the series. She picks the worst possible heroes and they fuck up the world time and time again.
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>>153087630
The game was too busy Rosefagging to have Lailah be called out on the fact that she's wrong about everything.
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>>153087749
And when she does finally get a hero that fixes everything she doesn't want him. If not for Zenrus forcing her she wouldn't have chosen Sorey.
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>>153085854
>>153085915
>>153085950

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>>153087972
Fun in my anime? ufo only cares for mature audiences who wants to explore deep thought provoking themes and Rose, go back to cute girls threads.
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Tales of Suffering
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>>153087483
Well yeah. She is a fire tenzoku after all.
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>>153088131
Correction. Ufotable only cares about "mature audiences" who want to explore "deep thought provoking themes" and Rose with some Alisha sprinkled at the side. If she isn't a teenage girl then Ufotable isn't interested in her.
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>>153087546
>spirit guide
Nah. Best party is new MC with Velvet as the Devil on his/her shoulder and Sorey as the Angel
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I apologize for Lailah

I deliberately trained her wrong, as a joke
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>>153088912
Sorey and her would actually have to disagree on shit for that to happen, and considering all the bullshit they've been through, I doubt it.

Sorey isn't a moralfag and Velvet isn't a murderfag.
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I think they're going for the F/0 strategy
>give both girls loads of screentime
>make them endure pain and suffering every waking moment on earth

>Rose's face when she realizes her dad fought and died for nothing and she fought and suffered for nothing and all her childhood memories were a pointless lie.
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>>153088969
Well considering how you ended up doing Lailah's job for her, and Sorey fixed everything anyway, I forgive you.
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>>153089019
Rose wasn't entirely wrong, per se. She was just in over her head because she can't fight literal evil magic.
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>>153089000
Well Velvet believes in a nuanced sort of edginess, but it's still edginess. Likewise, Sorey isn't Anime Alisha levels of idealistic, but he's a chill dude who would rather talk things out.

Say this Zestiria 3 Protag runs into a little boy who wants to beat up some bullies

Sorey would try to find a compromise, while Velvet would teach him how to go for the nutsack. Velvet believes in selfishness as a means of self-actualization, and Sorey believes in peaceful resolution when conflict is not necessary.
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>>153088969
>trained her wrong, as a joke
Stream it.
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Post-Zestiria: Rose is the worst character imaginable and everything wrong with the game was her fault

Post-Berseria: It was actually Lailah all along
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Fucking hell am I suppose to like sorey?
He is a fucking moralfag who didn't do shit in his life
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>>153089108
But both sides are still capable of seeing the other's point of view, let's say that the bully is bullying the other for money and food kid because he doesn't have access to it, Velvet would be all for a peaceful resolution.

Not let's say the kid is bullying just to be dick then Sorey would be for his ass getting kicked.

Velvet's thing is that she belives that emotions are important and selfishness is a means of self-actualization and the thing is Sorey doesn't disagree with that so long as your selfishness isn't causing any needless harm. Basically Sorey is like Eleanor but more chill.
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>>153089293
Berseria just made what Zesty's writing implied about Lailah explicit. Lailah's biggest fuck ups are Shephard Michael and Shephard Rose, and then being basically forced to support Shephard Sorey against her will, the one guy who actually solves shit.
>>153089340
He's not bad, he's just not much of anything.
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>>153089293
More like Baba Rosefagging is to blame for the bad game, and Lailah for the bad things in-world.
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>>153089340
Yeah, anime Sorey is pretty bad, they took a character who was pretty damn chill and actually disliked moralfagging and turned him into a moralfag.
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>>153089357
>needless harm
But Velvet's all about collateral damage. Self actualization at the expense of others. As Magilou says, "Let the bugs eat the flowers, let the weeds grow. Their selfish existence is proof of being salive."
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>>153089397
Lailah trained Baba wrong deliberately, as a joke.
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Watching this show reminds me why I stopped playing Tales games. Why do they all have such childish morality, and why do they seem to get more and more childish with each game?
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>>153089488
You'll probably like Berseria and its cast if Zesty annoys you
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>>153089433
But Velvet also helps out a lot of people, despite having that view. It also helped that the people she was against were a bunch of jackasses who weren't making things better.
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CONTROL YOUR FEELINGS TO CONTROL THE TIDE OF BATTLE!
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I still love her even if she is a huge fuck up
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>>153089580
I like her VA
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>>153089580
Why is Lailah a unicorn?
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>>153089631
liked*
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What did he mean by this?
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>>153087077
Dumb fire seraph
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>>153089433
Magilou's speech was more about how a pure life without pain and struggle is worthless.
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>>153089683
He's saying he enjoys smelling her wind
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>>153089293
There are quite a few hints in the Zestiria game that Lailah was doing nothing but fucking up. Your very first dungeon was a room filled with guys who became hellions or otherwise died of starvation because Lailah wrongfully assumed that they were ready to use the purification flame. Along with Zenrus not trusting her to pick the next Shepherd. And Sorey the shepherd who she does nothing but criticize is the one who actually ends the age of Chaos, and comes up with the idea to purify the land.

And the Zestiria official book outright says it.
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>>153089683
penetration
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>>153089722
> Dungeon full of failed Lailah shepards
> Zenrus rolling his eyes
> Lailah hates Sorey
> Central character around all the worst fuckups of history
> Such a fuckup that other seraphim magically sealed her lips
Lailah truly has a gift like no other.
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>>153085330
Rose is my waifu.
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>>153089766
She'll just take it like a dead fish.
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This anime is made for the sole purpose of redeeming Alisha and Rose
They seriously get too much focus in both cours
I get they are trying to fix their characters from the game, but I just don't care anymore
I just want to see cool shit and trying to solve the problems of the world and how it works with some character development
this just straight up character development each and every episode with practically nothing interesting happening
This is just like the game in terms of it looked like it had promise at the start but then it showed that it really was all about Alisha and Rose
I think I hate both characters now solely because the amount of effort they are giving to making these two likable and developed when in the end I just wanted a better story for Zestiria
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>>153089683
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I'm in love with Alisha
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>>153089820
Oh and in several skits she admits to driving several of her shepherds to becoming hellions. Which is probably the real reason why Zenrus raised Mikleo to be Sore's companion, so that he'd Sorey sane in the face of her bullshit, and be Sorey's cocksleeve so that he wouldn't go crazy from the stress of dealing with Lailah.
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>>153089979
Good taste
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>>153089911
>All that extra screentime
>And the both of them are still irrelevant.
Really makes you think.
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>>153090006
I thought Alisha was flat chested.
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>>153089911
I feel so bad for Sorey.
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>>153090097
She is, it's called padding.
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>>153090006
>Alisha appears next episode
>Her squad gets decimated, her knight friends become hellions and Maltran reveals she was puppeteering her the whole time
There is no end to this suffering train.
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I just care about seeing Zaveid. I like him more especially after playing his side story in Berseria. He had more of a character to him
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>>153089979
>>153090006
>liking the boring waifu of financial ruin
>having good taste
pick one.
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I love Rose.
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>>153090165
>Zaveid
>male character
>tozx
>having screen time
give up.
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>>153089488
They aren't more and more childish, you're getting more and more older. So the same thing annoys you more now than when you were a kid and were reading the same.
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>>153090052
Alisha is the true end
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>>153089911
Of course nothing interesting is happening, Alisha and Rose are irrelevant characters, so the story can't explore them without detouring.
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>>153090132
rude
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>>153090227
One can hope. Don't be so negative, anon. Your malevolence is showing.
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>>153090270
>Alisha
>True End
>Sorey can't even hear her voice
And I just realized that the anime actually doesn't let Sorey and Alisha interact as much as they did in the game, and whenever they do it can't happen unless Alisha is in some immediate danger or crying for some reason.
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>>153090270
Too late, she's taken now.
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>>153090359
I won't don't you know? Don't you know? Lying to yourself causes malevolence.

Your in more danger of falling than I am.
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>>153090226
Go away Baba.
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>>153090332
That picture is inaccurate, she's flat in the back too.
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>>153090428
That meme is getting annoying. Anime Rose is just great.
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Die yuri shits
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>>153090294
I get that, I would like some detouring with maybe Lailah or Edna, maybe even bring Zaveid back fro something
I'm just sick of Alisha and Rose, and it feels like nothing is happening because they are the constant focus imo
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>>153090462
why would you tell lies anon?
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>>153090428
Every man who loves Rose will be met with a terrible fate.
>Her real family
>killed in war
>Brad
>betrayed and killed on the battlefield
>Dezel
>Will probably die saving her again
>Baba
>"promoted" and never seen again

Rose is the real reaper of Zestiria.
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>>153090526
Well the moment they decided to focus on Rose and Alisha there was going to be nothing but detouring, and when the story finally moves forward, it ends up shitting the bed because it attempts to insert them into situations they don't have any business being in, thus hurting the core story.

You feel like nothing is happening because nothing is happening. The story can't move forward when it focuses on them.
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>>153090526
Lailah should be erased
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Will ufotable ever make a good anime again?
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So how are we supposed to tell when he takes over Rose?
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>>153090591
You should know by now that fanart isn't canon. It's just the wishful thinking of waifufags.

Don't lie to yourself anon, Alisha is flat in the front and the back
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So then, will Zavied be waiting at the gates of Pendragon for the sheepherder crew,

or will he jump in at the last minute and use his last bullet to save Dezel?
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>m-muh killing is bad
I hate this shit. Why do writers always create these obviously morally gray worlds and then still force this shit down our throats?
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>>153090701
when they get back to doing fate
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>>153090724
Damn those are some nice Lailahs.
Oh. Uh. ropeplay
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>>153090777
>fate
>good anime.
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>>153090786
Lailah is a slut that seduces Shepards and leads them down a path to destruction
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I want old ufotable back.

>30 IPs
This is really sad. There's probably one turbo autist bumping the thread all the time so this won't die. Also the episode was literally pointless after the 5 minutes

This anime is pointless
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>>153090767
I think that this was a direct consequence of the anime shilling Alisha.
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Why does everyone hate Lailah now? I still need to finish Berseria if that matters.
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>>153090724
I think they aren't going for literal possession, more like some sort of subconscious control this time around.
Like Dezel constantly dumping his feelings of vengeance inside her without her knowing and making her obsessed with avenging Brad. He even admits he wants Rose to literally become Brad 2.0.
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>>153090752
>picture for ants
>can still clearly see outlines for her breasts
>also a nice butt
>S-SHE'S F-FLAT!
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>>153090860
No, you're wrong, it's like 4 turbo autists who always visit and bump these threads. I know because I am one.
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>>153090868
Because she did everything wrong.

>>153089722
>>153089984
>>153087072
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>>153090879
Doesn't Dezel body jack Rose in the game without her knowing about it though? The anime is probably referring to that. But making Rose Brad's puppet/clone sounds valid too.
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>>153090847
I want Lailah o be slutty for me
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>>153090786
Damn shame ufo can't into breast sizes and makes them smaller than what they're supposed to be. I want her cleavage back.
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>>153090964
He does body jack her in the game but he hasn't done so in the anime yet.
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>>153090980
> Lailah telling more lies
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>>153090894
Anon, that's small enough to be considered flat chested. And those outlines aren't her breasts their her folds in her clothing. That ass is flat anon.

Case in point you've only ever been able to post fanart of it.
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>>153091012
I think Meebo and Edna's comment implies that he does do it in the anime too.
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ROSE DIDNDU NUFFIN WRUN
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;_;
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>>153091034
Okay.
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>>153091098
I understood that more as 'Rose unknowingly let her feelings be controlled by Dezel by becoming his vessel and Dezel is taking advantage of that by pushing her into Brad's path'.
Rose always seemed in control of herself enough in the anime.
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>>153091220
That's still flat anon, that blouse is actually a lowcut blouse and she's wearing a corset which makes girls appear bustier.
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>>153091178
>>153091273
>In an alternate universe Rose would have grown up into a happy, cute and girly girl with real parents and no idea how to use daggers.
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>>153091245
I guess we can only speculate for now. It would be nice if they cleared it up. Body jacking has so much h-material potential, so I prefer they kept to that.
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>>153091374
This life isn't so bad. It had its great moments, surely. Plus being the lively ojou of Sparrowfeathers and having many people count on her seems like a nice life, meaningful, and fun life.
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>>153091388
The h-doujin material is already through the roof with him being invisible and having followed her around for her whole life but nothing will ever come out of it.
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>>153091178
doujins write themselves
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´>>153091493
Y-yeah.
Nice, meaningful and fun.
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>>153091566
Too bad they don't also draw themselves else we'd be swimming in them now.
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>>153092234
Oh they draw themselves, just not for the waifus.
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>>153089293
The criticism is Rose as a character included in Zestiria hurt the game itself

Lailah, however, is an in-universe fuck-up
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>>153092527
>the moment when you realize that Baba's Rosefagging probably prevented Lailah from realizing that she was a fuck up, because it's only as a fuck up that she'd ever think of Rose as "good shepherd material".
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>>153091107
DEAD FISH SEX WITH EDNA
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>come home
>this half dead girl is lying face down in the middle of your room
What do?
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>>153093335
>>153093396
>>153093472
Why do all these flashbacks act like she only has childhood memories of him?
He was probably with her for more than ten years.
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>>153089433
Both endgame Velvet and endgame Sorey would come to terms.

In the end Velvet does what she believes she must do, which comes with a lot of collateral damage, but her selfishness and final sacrifice resulted in the world being saved. If the plot didn't give her a very personal reason to exert her kind of selfishness (which she totally had in Berseria), she and Sorey would be very similar people.

She would basically be a slightly edgy onee-san.
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>>153089567
That worked out well for him
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>>153089433
>Self actualization at the expense of others

Because she was enduring a lot of pain and pushing down a truckload of painful things. When she finds balance the selfishness is still there, but at that point there is no turning back.

I don't think that if she were given a better choice she would cause harm to others on purpose just because.
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How do you feel about the inferior game and infeior cast getting an anime, while the superior cast gets nothing?
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>>153094014
It's been a while since a semen demon has had an effect on me like Magilou has. I really want them to adapt Berseria.
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>>153094014
It's for the best really.

Berseria's cast doesn't need the redemption, and you would lose many skits, Magilou time, and little details like Velvet encouraging the crew before they go treasure hunting or how her cooking attitude changes after the end of act 2.
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>>153094014
I have come to terms with this months ago. I'm just hoping for a Velvet flashback somewhere in this show.
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>>153094093
You're a person of superb taste.
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>>153094014
And have Ufotable ruin everything, by removing what makes them interesting as characters in order to push their "serious narrative?" No, thank you.

>>153094227
If the anime was following the game you probably would have seen some flashbacks of Magilou and Velvet, because Sorey takes an interest in learning about Magilou, and Velvet is related to the truth about malevolence. But the anime as it is now, focusing solely on Alisha and Rose, two characters who are by and large unconnected to Berseria plots, Velvet probably won't even get a mention.
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>>153094388
Anon you're getting annoying as fuck with bringing up your whining against ufotable and the waifufags in unrelated posts every time as if you're adding anything of worth to the conversation and need to lecture everyone of ufo's incompetence every thread.
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>>153094571
>he thinks that it's just one anon
Anon, a lot of people have been calling Ufotable incompetent, it's not just one anon. Practically no one is talking about the actual episode because everyone realizes that the anime isn't going anywhere, nothing is happening.

>Also unrelated posts
Anon was bringing up how Berseria would be in anime format, and I commented on that, if people pointing out the fact that Ufotable is actually not very good at making anime triggers you, then that's your problem.
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>>153094794
Everyone knows this shit already. Stop acting like this is any news and always deflecting the conversation into how bad ufo is. You're always the one who keeps going
>AKSHUALLY it would be perfect if they just did this and that and they should just follow the manga, ufo is a flop studio, does this trigger you waifufag

These threads only have like five people in them you don't need to repeat the same thing every time.
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>>153086588
>give me all your candies, onii-chan, or I will fucking stab you.
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>>153086603
I want to fuck Rose in such a state.

I bet she will still retain that expression when I breed her.
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.>>153095006
Who made you the police of the thread?
>Everyone knows this shit already. Stop acting like this is any news and always deflecting the conversation into how bad ufo is. You're always the one who keeps going
Except I'm not the one bringing it up, multiple people have been calling the anime shit in every thread, not just one anon. If it pisses you off so much that people are calling it shit then that's just your problem.
>>AKSHUALLY it would be perfect if they just did this and that and they should just follow the manga, ufo is a flop studio, does this trigger you waifufag
Except no one brought up the manga, people have only ever been talking about the anime and comparing it to the actual game it based off of, which is a given an not at all off topic considering that this is an anime adaptation. Or talking about Berseria, or Lailah.

It's ironic but the only person whose bringing this shit up is you.

Also 5 people
>38 posters
You can't count can you?
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>>153095006
So people actually talking about the quality or lack thereof of the show are terrible, but waifufagging shitposters are okay?
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I never played zestiria and never will, just finished berseria

Can someone spoil me on who is Lailah and what does she do wrong?
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>>153095323
>>153095390
I'm not disagreeing that this ain't a good show. Going on an autistic fit over the same thing every thread is as far away from discussion as and as annoying as waifufagging is.
Every time people talk about anything there's always that one faggot who goes on a tangent about how ufo is the source of all evil and kills any discussion to be had.
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>>153094093
>The skit where she lifts up her skirt for Laphicet

Fucking lewd.
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>>153094093
I wish they could have shown Eizen doing Magikazam during their comedy duo skit.
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>>153095820
>It's an "Eizen gets way too into it" episode
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>>153095584
This is fucking 4chan, it's the wrong place to be if you want to complain about autistic circle jerking. Never mind that every week is there are different people becoming more and more disappointed with the anime.

People aren't really discussing the episodes, again because there really isn't anything to discuss. So if you want to complain about not one talking about the episode you're blaming the wrong people.

Like I said before it's multiple people, not just one. It's no fucking secret that Ufotable hasn't made a single good game adaptations, or a decent adaptation for anything that isn't Type-Moon. So if it upsets you that people are bringing it up, even though it actually isn't off topic, then that just your problem.

>>153095553
Lailah is literally the cause of everything that goes wrong. Sorey was just chosen to be a shepherd by a third party who wanted him to clean up her mess.
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>>153085854
EXPLOOOSSSIIIOONNNNNNNNN
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>>153095893
>Before Zestiria anime,
>People disliked game Sorey for being a typical main character and yes man.
>After Zestiria anime,
>People praising game Sorey and shitting on anime Sorey

What happened?
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>>153086558
箱に
は・こ・に
8・5・2
85.2%
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>>153096207
Being a contrarian against popular thing is cool and hip you know.
Where the fuck do you think you are?
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>>153095323
>38 posters
You don't really believe that there are thirty regular posters in these threads, do you?
There's always the nicolive-screenshots fag, that one Alishafag who keeps posting he loves her, that one, one ironic Rosefag, one genuine Rosefag, that one Lailahfag, that one Ednafag who might or might not be the guy who always CPR's the threads at page 10, the yurifag, the mangafag and a handful of others I've forgotten. Also some Magiloufag who hails from the Berseria threads on /v/ who probably was here before too.

I honestly feel like I talk to the same people every week here.
I don't even know what point I'm trying to make.
Have a meme Alisha.
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>>153096207
Because Berseria, the Zestiria and Berseria official guides were relased and they it actually showed that Game Sorey had the right idea in terms of how to solve the world's problems, he was just held back by Lailah, being the unhelpful bitch in the world. That caused people to feel sorry for him, since it's a bit of a miracle he was even able to succeed despite her holding him back. The fact that Sorey did it by not listening to Lailah is even better.

Someoneon /v/ said it best, Eleanor succeeded because of her prime lord, and Sorey succeeded despite them.

Anime Sorey is pretty much the type of person that Game Sorey actually criticized.
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>Rose looking depressed
>Sorey: hurr durr do you think killing is good
Fuck this protag did he miss how obviously evil the prince was?
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>>153096544
>I honestly feel like I talk to the same people every week here.
Is this somehow a bad thing?
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>>153096207
Because Berseria came out that the shit you find out there, will actually make you pity Sorey.
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>>153096589
It's a good thing if threads are comfy but they really are just dead.
Rose faceplanting multiple times was the greatest part of the episode.
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>>153093236
Smother her with a pillow. She's already halfway dead, why let her quit the race now?
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>>153096544
I know for a fact that /v/ does cross board here sometimes.
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>>153096373
>tozx
>popular
People never really hated game Sorey, at best they were just neutral about him. The best thing people had to say about him was that he was a chill dude.
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>>153096922
*worst.
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>>153096922
The worst thing I've seen people say about him is just that he's boring.
And that's pretty bad for a main character.
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>>153096783
Number one best frame of this episode
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>>153094014
Would flop harder than this because the cast is less popular anyway. Let bamco move forward and let ufotable make tons of money on sword boys.
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>>153096859
How'd you figure that out Sherlock?
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>>153096998
Yeah, but people actually don't hate him. Which is very different from anime Sorey who is actively disliked.

And even people who consider him boring just wanted him to speak up more.
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>>153096559
I didn't finish Zestiria, but didn't Sorey follow Lailah's instructions until the very end where the one thing he did against her judgement managed to solve all the fuck ups in one go.
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>>153096998
I liked him. Not cowardly, has actual interests, friendly and frank about his thoughts without useless platitudes. And he also is smarter than he seems.
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>>153097188
Yup, and it actually happens more than once. You're in a village where the woman is infected with malevolence, Lailah wants to keep moving claiming she can't be saved. Sorey goes and talks to her, the malevolence dissipates. She just needed someone to talk to.

Hell it was Sorey who even wanted to Marlind, Lailah just wanted to leave them to die.
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>>153096188
>EXPLOSION is an actual real spell in Berseria
I laughed.
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>>153097110
>Berseria cast
>unpopular
They aren't.

Velvet scored in the top 5 overall Tales heroines, and Magilou and Elanor are well liked.

As for Males it's the same story, Laphichet, and Eizen are actually popular characters, while Rokurou despite not being as popular is still well liked.

It's not like Zestiria where only 3 characters in he entire cast are universally well liked.
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>no Alisha this episode ;_;
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>>153085330

Lailah is one of the best girls in the game. Why is she so bland and boring in the animu?
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>>153097321
God damn it Lailah
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>>153097790
If we see Alisha it will only be more suffering for her.
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Is this going to be two cours? I think it's now impossible to end the plot with only 7 episodes left when they havent even finished dealing with Rose and Dezel yet
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>>153097481
How could she score in the top heroines when the tales fest poll isn't even out yet? What are you referring to with those?
With Zestiria, Alisha, Sorey, Mikleo and Edna seem to be the most popular.
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>>153097959
Yuri Ban still in effect I see.
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>>153097959
From last year's polls dumbass. You're pic related poll is outdated.

Alisha's popularity has actually gone down since last year. Now it's just Sorey, Mikleo and Edna.
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>Writers for Zesty and Berseria were the same
>Beseria has way better character + plot
Was it really just Baba? Can one man truly cause so much harm to the franchise?
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>>153098160
Can you post the poll? I am curious to see this year's poll, if it actually exists and you're not memeing on me
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>>153097956
It was split cour and we're on the second half.
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W-WHY IS EVERYONE BULLYING LAILAH?! S-S-STOP IT!!!!!!
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>>153098223
You're going to have to check the archives in /a/ for the Zestiria anime last year, I didn't save them.
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Velvet has to show up in this season, she's in the second OP.

At around :55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rXA7di1IyY
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>>153098390
So we're going to get another two random Berseria episodes.
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>>153098160
>>153098223

There was none last year though. 2017's tales fest poll went up last week.
http://tales-ch.jp/camp/popularity/2017/
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>>153098436
Those two were announced.
We ain't gonna get more Berseria episodes. Flashbacks maybe.
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>>153098296
Because Berseria needed a scapegoat to justify its pathetic existence. And they just used Zestiria and Lailah.

So now all the hate from retards goes to Lailah. Just ignore it and continue to worship her.
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>>153098445
Dude Talesfes is an annual thing. This year is special because it's their anniversary.
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>>153098160
Cool lie there was no poll last year

>>153098034
The removed the ban for the poll's return this year
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>>153098491
Did Lailah not pick Shephard Michael? Did Shephard Michael not fuck up everything and Corrupt Maotelus?

All of this is not info you find out in Berseria...
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>>153098160
The last official poll was in 2014.
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>>153098491
Lailah was already wrong in the game. The very first dungeon is filled with hellions of her own creation. And she does mention how she drove navy of her Shepherds to become hellions. It's also her actions that caused the Age of Chaos. Berseria didn't make Lailah shit, she was always shit.
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>>153098511
The polls where gone for THREE FUCKING YEARS you absolute retard
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>>153098633
Berseria doesn't even do much but piss you off more when you realize who Maotelus was and how Lailah ruined his shit.
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>>153098547
Oh wait no Leon and Yuri are still banned kek
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How was it Lailah's fault that the guy she picked to be the world's savior just HAPPENED to be a baby murderer?
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>>153098571
>>153098571
At the end of the day it was Michael who fucked up. And that's what matters.
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>>153098547
They perfom them in the Tales magazine.
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>>153098788
B-because she picked him!
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>>153098788
Because Lailah raised him and she likes sociopaths
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>>153098707
It made me respect Maotelus more even as a hellions he was still properly guiding Sorey.
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>>153098939
>he'll never give a WILL YOU STOP WHINING speech to every faggot in Zestiria.
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Berseria got cucked
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>>153099063
Only character who qualifies as a whiner is game Alisha and do you really want to bully her more?
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>>153099188
>cucked
Fuck off crossboarder.
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>>153099235
He should've punched Michael long before all the shit went down.
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>>153099260
Sorry, Berseria got netorared
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>>153099188
The better drop the experimental "no heroine" and "female heroine" shit and get back to guy protag with waifu.
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>>153099427
Next your going to suggest that they have some sort of villain that isn't siscon shota angel OR protagonists former mentor turned evil with a good goal that just happens to require killing a lot of people
>>
Whose fault was it that this smile couldn't be protected?
>>
Are they going for the third cour or some kind of alternate ending?
I don't see how they fit the rest of the story in 6 episodes.
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>>153096783
This is exactly how my boss fights go. .001 Grade baby!
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>>153099642
They'll just cut it down to the barebones necessities.
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>>153099642
I'd imagine they're completely cutting out actually traveling around to each temple, and just going to have Zaveid/Eizen/Edna and Alisha/Maltran's arcs followed by the finale.
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>>153096578

Sorey is working on a different wavelength. He's basically a really chill stoner. Dude, chill out and PURIFY ur heart and malevolence will go away.
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>>153099427
Mikleo was Zestiria's heroine.

By that same line of thought, Laphicet is Berseria's heroine even if it's not a love interest.
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>>153099340
>>153099260
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>>153099642
There's actually not a lot of the game to be done.

One episode for Alisha.

Two for Edna's arc.

Three for the end of the game.

The temples and gathering the iris gems will be skipped.
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This was the only chance we ever had at getting a Hellion Rose vs Sorey and they blew it. Why can't they give me my full-on edge bloodlust rage just once?

Now she's already on the path of redemption and will probably become a squire soon.
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>>153099855
>Laphicet
>not a love interest

Dude wants to fuck Velvet ridiculously bad.
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>>153099188
>Mobile trash
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>>153099968
That was the wrong image entirely but fuck it, I like it.
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>>153099063
Only Alisha and Lailah ever whined.
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>>153099556
Lailah, the dumb bitch.
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>>153099899
>One episode for Alisha.
>Two for Edna's arc.

more like half an episode for Alisha, 5 mins. of dragon slaying, and then a retrospective moralfag searching to justify going back on "THOU SHALT NOT KILL", and then two filler episodes before Heathcliff shows Sorey his jii-san.
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>>153099855
remove gay
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>>153099968
But that's incest anon
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>>153099855
I can't agree completely. It is weird because he clearly has a lot of plot relevance with being related to the shepherd who wrote the celestial record and the backstory with protag but we also have Alisha and Rose with very demanding plot lines so it was a mess and no one ended up being treated right.
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>>153099899
Not to forget actually ending the war and Camlann.
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>>153100044
Fujo bucks will never be removed.
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>>153100046
Aren't seraphim reincarnations technically different people than their original human counterparts? They have completely different bodies, at least. It's kinda confusing.
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>>153099899
Funny how easily you forget about Dezel existing, Zaveid joining the party, inheriting Siegfried, learning to use it from Mayvin in the desert and that whole Symonne debacle.
There's a lot to tackle and no more time to do it all.
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>>153100076
Alisha and Rose are just side characters. Nothing about them was important, especially not how the game presented it.

Meanwhile Mikleo was directly related to everything connected to the lord of calamity.
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>>153100023
How could anyone blame this miracle of the universe? Let me make this clear one last time for you, Anonymous.

Lailah did absolutely NOTHING wrong.

Stop with your terrible propaganda.
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>>153100076
>Alisha and Rose's plot lines
>demanding
Both plots are actually very simple the game showed Rose's in 5 minutes. The anime is just dragging it's feet with them.
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>>153100190
>The anime is just dragging it's feet with them.
I'm just in this for the ride, I can't wait to see how bad they fuck up the ending because there's way too much shit to do in just a few more episodes.
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>>153100091
They already abandoned the anime for the mobage though.
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>>153100156
Lailah is a WHORE for calamity, she should be raped
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WHEN?
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Alisha is actually not that popular.
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>>153100148
Dezel can just die when Rose becomes Squire. They already explained their backstory.
Zaveid might get mixed into Alisha's plot judging by the ending. Symmone I have no fucking idea and Mayvin will probably infodump them about Maotelus at some point.
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>>153100156
Lailah did everything wrong.
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>>153100282
All she did was tell Sorey to do whatever he thinks is right and to not get too tied up with duty like Artorius did. How was that wrong?
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>>153087745
why there's a 3 in this pic
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>>153099968
>Laphicet denies Velvet's offer to bathe with her despite her insisting on it
>he could barely control his boner even after the bath
>Rokurou grills him on why he didn't take the offer since he could get away with it because he's young
>"exactly, i don't want her to see me as a kid anymore."

Man, if they had a few more years together, Laphicet would've been smashing that every single night.
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>>153097959
Is Yuri still banned from the poll?
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>>153100357
I think you mean do whatever SHE thinks is right. Remember she was the one who refused to tell him about Maotelus, which was needed in order for Sorey to succeed. It was Zaveid who suggested going to Mayvin, despite Lailah knowing about him. Not to forget her lies about the origin of malevolence.
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>>153100357
I'd be careful. His malevolence may be infectious.
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>>153100411
I want to make a shitty weed joke but I can't think of any.
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>>153100510
She was stupid to take the oath, but if she broke it, there goes a useful ally to aid in getting rid of malevolence.
Can Sorey even purify anyone without her?
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>>153099747
There are actually several plots to go through and they aren't even finished with Rose and Alisha's.
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>>153100510
She also took an unbreakable oath not to speak about anything from before the age of chaos that will kill her if she breaks it. It's literally what happens to Mayvin.
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>>153100575
I just want them to do the wind temple.
>It sure is useful, that spinny-wind thing.
>It is the wind temple, after all...
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>>153100258
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>>153100569
>>153100589
She actually breaks in the second mystic arte quest, and we find out that her oath was actually making her weaker.

It was stupid of her to even take the oath to begin with, but then again it probably saved Sorey from being forced to listen to her constantly compare him to past shepherds (who were mostly all failures).
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>>153100635
I wonder if Mikleo was ever jealous Sorey got to be the shepherd
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>>153100675
Probably a little, but his love for his bro was stronger.
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>>153100675
What's the point of a Seraphim Shepherd?
Their whole purpose is bringing humans closer to Seraphim and there's no point if humans can't see him.
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>>153100675
No, he really wasn't. Just the opposite actually. He was upset that the job was just too stressful and would have forced Sorey to abandon his position of Shepherd if he thought that it was getting to him.

Mikleo was jealous of Rose, though, because she was human and he wasn't.
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>>153100757
Gotta worship and respect your invisible friends who watch you bathe and jerk off over your face as you sleep, man.
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How old is Magilou?
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>>153100757
In Mikleo's case, he was raised to provide Sorey companionship and keep him sane, because Zenrus knew that Lailah wouldn't do so.

Basically he was raised to be Sorey's waifu.
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Why is Sorey making such a big deal out of this? In the game he quickly realized this was a solution, just one he didn't want to take if he had a choice, like against the Medusa pope.
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So do the guides say anything about fox dude? There was that teaser at the end of the Alisha DLC that lead to absolutely fucking nothing and then the anime also forgot about him.

Third game closing all the gaps when? Or at least a Zestiria fix.
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>>153099284
He was too busy turning into a hellion.
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>>153098788
It's not so much she just picked Michael, it's more she has a history of bad pick after bad pick. Her evaluation process clearly needed revising or she needed replaced
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>>153100961
Because they had to emphasize that only sweet pure Rose had the emotional strength to do what needs to be done.
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>>153100961
Are they skipping this story too?

They skipped the hot mercenary dude that was completely irrelevant.

God what was wrong with Zestiria's plot? It's like they rewrote everything two weeks before the game released and they had to use some designs they made even if there was no room in the story for them (See: Sergei)
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>Konan smashes her face first into stone bricks so hard she bounces off ten meters into the air
She's gotta be fucking dead man.
There's no reason why her skull wasn't shattered into a thousand pieces right this moment.
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>>153101034
>Are they skipping this story too?
I hope not, it was a bit of a big deal. It was central in showing not everyone can be reversed to human again and gave Sorey and company the mental fortitude to be able to take Heldalf's life.
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>>153100973
Hellions can punch too.
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>>153101050
Humans can be ridiculously strong without any magical powers or angel backups in the Zestiria world. Look at Shigure, dude was a top-tier beast.
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>>153100757
Can animals see them or did the horse throw a fit when he mounted it?
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Just kill him off already so I dont have to watch his character be assassinated
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>>153101034
Probably there's no time for it.

The mercenary dude was connected to the "moral fagging is bullshit" plot as well as the "people who can see seraphs are considered to be freaks plot". But because the anime wants to make Alisha have no faults, and Sorey erase every plot connected to Sorey, it was dropped.
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Someone last week was looking for the Link manga. Check this site:
http://tokrin.com/archives/50931111.html
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>>153100961
Medusa was actually a tragic character, the only reason why she went crazy was stress and Symonne mindraping her daily, until she could no longer tell an illusion from reality.
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>>153101092
He was too busy being forced watching baby Mikleo get murdered by his uncle and Selene giving birth prematurely during the massacre.

Jeez no wonder he decided to guide Sorey and Mikleo even as a hellion.
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>>153101108
>punts poor bandits so hard they fly away with her feet
>can lift and flip fully armored soldiers around like little dolls
>survives a massive faceplant against cold and hard cobblestone
>is a 'normal' human girl
Rangetsu confirmed!?
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>still watching Tales of Flop
I imagine it's out of curiosity right?
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>>153101478
I want to see what they'll change and when Velvet will appear again.
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>>153101478
>I imagine it's out of curiosity right?
We're just waiting for Rose to Armatize.
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>>153101548
When a girl armatizes with a boy does she grow a penis? Inquiring minds must know.
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>>153101478
Yeah I'm eager to see how bad they fuck it up.
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>>153101600
Sounds like a plot to a futa doujin.
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>>153101478
It's still entertaining for me. Sales are the sponsors problems, not mine.
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>>153085330
What the hell is up with this anime's second season? Why do they feel the need to fap to the worst Tales of character ever like that when the game already did it more than enough?
Dropped.
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>>153101797
>when the game already did it more than enough
There was not enough Rose suffering in the game.
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i feel you buddy
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[becomes hellion]
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>>153101911
Girls looking completely fucked up and emotionally exhausted and on rock bottom are really fucking hot.
Is this the inverse of gap moe?
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>>153101989
> When you find out your in-game story and character is shit
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She's ready to Armatize, /a/. Are you?
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>>153101989
She's literally Cardinal Forton right now and she hasn't become a hellion. Wtf.
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>>153101989
I'm really disappointed she didn't.
Hell they could have had her turn for a short while in the beginning of the episode before getting purified and still have the rest of the episode be exactly the same.
It would even make more sense because she clearly fucking lost it and did it out of hate and vengeance instead of for the people.
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>>153102235
I could have forgiven this adaptation if they went that route instead of even more flashbacks.
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>>153101478
To see my husband's beautiful wife in the epilogue.
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>>153102365
10/10 family would sacrifice
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>>153101989
Rose had some good screams this and last episode but still not even close to Velvet's raging screeches.
>https://youtu.be/fqnM4wtXYng?t=1h8m13s
>1h8m13s
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>>153100635
Who is this cute girl?
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>>153102973
>girl
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>tfw baba did all for her and would do it all over again if he could
Greatest love story ever told
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I laughed so hard at this episode I think I made myself sick
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>>153102973
Mikleo's aunt Michelle
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>>153103168
> Dat shiner
True love at its finest
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>>153103168
Not even Rose deserves a watermark on her face.
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>>153103240
Thank you anon
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>>153097959
I'd still like to know why Emil was in the top 10
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>>153103240
>>153103565
>>153103168
Why is she so perfect, /a/?
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>>153103591
Because Nips don't have a problem with him.
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>>153103720
Gap moe.
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>>153100476
Yup.
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>>153103591
Have you seen those pits?
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>>153104244
I've seen better pits out there
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Isn't this wrong?
It's only fucked because Maomao is fucked, right?
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>>153105033
Lailah is always wrong anon.
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>>153105568
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>>153103591
It's mostly fujos that vote in these polls. Do you not realize how much of a fuck boy Emil would make?
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>>153086331
Hey now!

Velvet wants the world to be better after she gets revenge. It's why she doesn't murder her evil shota brother cause it would kill her and Phi.
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>>153086582
And sometimes the most selfish people ARE the ones trying to change it.

Like change the world not save it(a key difference) Artorius.
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>>153089088
People make more evil magic when they die. That's how Dragon Zombies, Skeleton, and Zombie Hellions spawn.

Hell a dying human produces enough malevolence to turn a Seraph into a dragon!
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>>153101548
If Roze armatizes I'm dropping this.
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>>153106517
Do they even have enough time to build that up?
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>>153105787
>Sorey fixes everything by doing the opposite of what Lailah has "taught" him.

Pretty much.
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>muh wind
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>>153106857
dezel and zaveid are the only good characters in the game
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>>153106955
>Dezel
>good character
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>>153106996
he had potential which is more than most of these rejects
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>>153106563
They pretty much already setting it up now in this episode.
Rose felt that she's so freaking useless and shit, she'll magically granted plot power just like in the game, she'll need it anyway because she will accompany Sorey until the kitty fight.
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>>153096578
The twist is Dezel caused this with his blessing and Brad became a Hellion.
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>>153107226
Dezel doesn't have the reapers curse, that was Symonne fucking with him. If Dezel had the curse, Rose would have combusted ages ago.
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>>153107116
You could say the same thing for Sorey and Mikleo.
Sorey
An MC who doesn't whine, isn't a moralfag,and is pretty fucking chill. The only problem with him is that because the story had to waifufag Rose he wasn't allowed to be right.

Mikleo
Secondary MC who grew up with a human, and despite being a seraphim he has a lot of human habits. He's actually really jealous of humans and wishes he could be one. Also isn't a moralfag and doesn't whine.
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>>153107363
No he actually does. Eizen suffered from the same curse as did Symonne.
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>>153107433
Eizen's curse is bad enough to kill half the crew when possessing a ship and enough to forcibly make a coin always land tails up. If Dezel had the curse, Rose should have died a long long time ago.
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>>153105880
Is Raven really that popular with fujo?
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>>153100125
That's what people assume, but Laphicet and Seres all but prove that wrong even if Seres tries to say otherwise.

But then they inherited an Empyreans power so they could be an exception.
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>>153107498
Blah, blah Baba's Rose's bullshit blah
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>>153107596
Anon I'm the only Dezel fan on the face of the planet, let me have this
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>>153107568
Seres also says she considers herself to be a completely different person than she was when she was human.
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>>153107638
To be fair, Dezel might have originally been planned to be more like Eizen before the Baba and Rose debacle.
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>>153107703
;_;
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>>153099188
Thank fucking god Berseria ain't in the mobage yet
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>>153107363
A Seraphs blessing can have unintended consequences. Symonne was fucking with him because he didn't realize it and she came to laugh at him twice about it.
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>>153107780
To be fair the whole cast suffers from the same problem, except Alisha.
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>>153107694
Then she goes to see Laphicet and talks about how she'll unleash Velvet to get vengeance on Artorius. Seres certainly thinks she's a different person, but she's acting in the way all the Crowe ladies seem to act concernjng vengeance, while all the boys are NERDS!
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>>153101989
>fell into utter despair
>somehow didn't invoke inner malevolence and turn into helion
why is this allowed?
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Do Japs love Rose now?
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>>153108111
No, they've just become neutral to her. Only people who really hated her were desperate Alishafags and they're gone.
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>>153085330
I kind of like what ufotable is *trying* to do with this show, but it's still pretty bad. Sorey is not fleshed out at all (cookie-cutter-goodguy-MC-itis). And Mikeleo, Lailah and Edna are completely being ignored. Edna barely qualifies as a background character. And how long is this shit going to be? At the rate this adaption is going it could go into 4 cours, easily.
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>>153108051
No clue. If they want to shoehorn in Velvet they should have either Rose or Alisha become a hellion, since hellions aren't actually bad.
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Sorey had a hard life.
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>>153108257
I think the show will go off the fucking rails at the end of this season since Edgelord Chick is in the OP
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>>153108369
Actually hellions were considered bad in Berseria too. The only problem was that at the time they couldn't turn back into humans and seraphs.
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>>153108599
>akshully
Rokurou never turned back into a human and it's fine. Kurogane was a demon for hundreds of years, also fine.

Demons aren't inherently bad.
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>>153108671
They are considered inherently bad in Berseria too. Rokurou is just a special case.
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>>153108671
Most are, which is anons point.
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>>153108756
If Anon is the guy above you, his point is demons are inherently bad, which is wrong.

In any event, Velvet and Rokurou are examples of good/not inherently evil demons.

Rokurou has so much malevolence he didn't turn back into a human even with Laphi going Dragon of Light, and Velvet is basically PURE malevolence.
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>>153101797
I dunno.
The shameless pandering of a character no one likes even now, makes no sense.
Hell they even went so far as to make a character exactly like her in the prequel and push her hard as well.

I dunno. Maybe it's ego.
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>>153108811
They are anon,the ones who aren't are special cases.

Velvet being made of pure malevolence was never once stated or shown to be a good thing.

The exceptions aren't the rule.
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>>153108671
Rokurou believes he's nothing like his original self and thinks that he would be disgusted by what he's become.

Course that is for the best. Who knows how he'd react to beating Shigure, but knowing he truly didn't beat him because he had to use three swords to win.
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>>153108811
They are. Malevolence is not inherently bad because it's part of humanity, but the curse that turns people into Hellions was designed to specifically kill everyone with hordes of monsters.
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>>153108893
The original Rokurou was a coward driven by jealousy, he is a better person as a Helion since he is "pure"
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>>153108839
you take that back, Eleanor is a thousand time sbetter than Alisha
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>>153108951
Abr you just proved that you don't know shit about Berseria. Malevolence doesn't come from humanity nor is it natural to them. Humans never started to become hellions until the tectonic shift.
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>>153108951
Malevolence isn't natural to the world of Zestiria/Berseria.
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>>153108977
I know, which I is why I said it's for the best. Shigure was too STR and too much of a swell guy to hold Rokurou's actions against him and original Rokurou couldn't stand it.
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>>153109080
>>153109028
Anons the Rappig Malak literally tells you malevolence always existed and the Seraphs wanted to kill every human. The Malaks said no and tried coexistence, so the Curse of Daemons was created by the Seraphs to turn Malaks into Dragons and humans into Daemons.
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>>153101165
> Dezel concerned about Rose's skirt length
Edgy anime Dezel would be flipping that shit so hard.
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>>153109216
he already did
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>>153109178
All that really means is that the emotions that turn you into a hellion always existed, but it didn't hurt people until the curse.

Because of the curse malevolence hurts people or did you forget the natural disasters it causes?
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>Velvet is in an eternal 69 with her brother
>Laphi became a dragon god that got fucked because of the previous sepherd being a useless fuck but got fixed thanks to sorey
>Rokurous status is unknown but may have been turned into that 6 sword hellion by zestiria
>Eleanor likely Roses ancestor. Possibly Roku too
>Magilou stayed true to her mayvon status but died 200 years before zestiria
>Eizen is fried dragon steak
Why did the berseria cast get fucked over so much compared to zestirias? Christ
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>>153109329
half of this shit is wrong and you're an idiot.
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JESUS CHRIST, Ufotable is sure making an effort ensuring nothing at all happpens.

We are 5 episodes into season 2 and this didn't advance in the slightest.

I like Tales and I love Ufotable but this is getting ridicusly slow.
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>>153109329
Magilou got friends and people who remember her with fondness even 200 years after her death.

>Eleanor likely Roses ancestor. Possibly Roku to
That's just delusional headcanon of shippers

>Rokurous status is unknown but may have been turned into that 6 sword hellion by zestiria
Actually wasn't that hellion previously a shepherd?
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Is this really good CGI or really bad normal animation?

Also, is it a harem?
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>>153109297
The curse was always meant to turn people into evil monsters who go around killing people, spreading malevolence to turn more people into monsters and kill more people who seek coexistence.

It was entirely possible to keep malevolence in check without purification before the curse. She even states it was going great before the Seraphs of the Heavenly Realm made the curse.
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>>153109509
They never started turning into monsters until Berseria time period. Timeline actually confirms this too, as well as the Berseria prologue.

All what your amounts to is that malevolence is harmful to their world.
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>>153109444
I don't think that was said. Even then its best not to believe Lilahs bullshit until we get the 3rd game.
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>>153109794
What are you talking about?
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>>153109643
They did though. They just weren't seen by normal humans until ARTORIUUUUUUUS's bullshit
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>>153110032
There's no mention of it in the timeline. And Shepherds didn't handle it either.
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>>153110006
Theres a six sword wielding hellion you fight thats obsesst with swords
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>>153110071
The Rappig Malak and the story mention Innominat awakened numerous times to supress the malevolence and Daemons. It's why all these past advanced civilizations like Avarost collapsed. Innominat eventually runs out of food to eat, goes back to sleep, the Elementals wake up and restore elemental balance till lack of faith and malevolence puts them into slumber, then Innominat wakes up, repeat.
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>>153110071
Because most people, especially the Shepherds, don't know it. The Daemon and Malevolence was a taboo Malaks were originally not meant to tell humans to begin with, because learning it's not a disease makes people get swallowed in malevolence and become Daemons.
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>all this bullshit revisionism
There's nothing inherently unique about Rokurou. Some demons are good people, even the ones Apple Dragon couldn't purify.
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>Rose growing up around a bunch of buff muscledudes
So, uh. Who do you think taught her about "stuff" when she hit puberty and suddenly started bleeding every month?
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>>153096544
>the yurifag
Hey now. There's at least two of us.
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>>153110739
> who
Dezel, obviously.
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>>153110432
You actually see Apple Dragon purify all of them at the end.
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So are we getting another cour after this?
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>>153110378
The Shepherds knew about it it just wasn't their job to take care of it. Alternatively they kinda were in their own way.
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>>153110191
That was a shepherd.
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>>153085330

She's the best character so far to be honest, but only because no one else is really flushed out or allowed to interact with each other in interesting ways. Without Rose, this show would be a complete snorefest.
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>>153112583
The anime flopped so nope.
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>>153112699

Also, whatever happened to the shirtless guy with the guns?
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>>153112776
He's supposed to join the party but at the rate they're going it's never going to happen.
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>>153101478
It's actually interesting and I've never played the game, nor do I plan to. Might play Berseria though.
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Did those two Berseria episodes actually adapt something from the game or were they anime original?
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>>153113510
They adapted the prison break part.
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>>153110853
That's two too many.
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>>153112583
Even if it didn't flop, no. They're cutting corners and rushing towards the end. Zestiria was barely worth 24 episodes.
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>>153109432
>Anise
God tier taste
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>>153114563
>cutting corners
No they aren't cutting corners, they're taking their fear sweet time.
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>>153107534
The shady, backstabbing old guy is always really popular.
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>>153112615
The Shepherds that come later anon know some things but kept in the dark about others because Lailah.

Lord of Calamity wasn't even a title till Velvet used it.
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When the fuck is my boy Lapichet going to appear?
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>>153115593
You mean it didn't exist, Velvet was the first one.
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>>153115593
Lailah started keeping shepherds in the dark after her nagging turned several of them into hellions.
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>>153115957
At least eizen wasn't bullshitting about humans turning into hellions/daemons if they were told that their entire life was a lie
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Fuck you all and your propaganda. Lailah will always be the best.
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>>153116716
It's just Lord of Calamity apologists trying to pretend that not all hellions deserve to be purged. Arthur did nothing wrong.
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>>153116607
That wasn't what turned them into hellions, Lailah outright admits that she actively stressed them out by constantly comparing them to the previous shepherds.
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>>153117010
Why is lailah such a fuck up christ
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>>153116963
>>153116716
The very first dungeon in Zestiria is filled with the skeletons of shepherds that Lailah failed to guide. She's the worst.
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Velvet a shit.
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Lailah? More like Failah.
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>>153117010
>why can't you be like the previous shepherds
>you know, like that one guy who tried to eliminate free will, or that other guy who murdered babies
>now they were GOOD shepherds, unlike you
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>>153117687
Wasn't Eizen an infintely better Prime Lord than her?
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>>153117771
>Lailah gets two siblings with high resonance.
>One is a well adjusted woman
>And the other is a shut in
>Lailah chooses the shut in.
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>>153117771
>the guy who is cursed to cause everyone he meets to suffer horribly is a better prime lord than Lailah

Probably.
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>>153116716

Lailahcuck triggered
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>>153117861
He only ever lost a shepherd because he died in battle.
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>>153117293

More like pic related
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>>153115027
Why is she so white in the anime.
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>>153118095
Is not that different actually, i guess it had something to do with the PS2 shit colors.
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>>153118440
u wot
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Reminder that Lailah hate is fueled by Malevolence and must be stopped.
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