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Does she deserve the hate?

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Does she deserve the hate?
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>>153001071
Not really, it's her autistic fans
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>>153001071
But I like Sakura.
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No, but she doesn't deserve to be a main character.
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>>153001071
Isn't she more popular than Hinata in many places though? Being shipped with both Naruto and Sasuke gives her a big advantage to say the least.
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>>153001071
No. Sakura is quite awesome and adorable in her own right. The problem is the author can't write female leads or even female characters to save his life. Her powers and skills and development are wasted for majority of the story.
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i want to eat out sakura
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worst shonen heroine of all time, outside of that she's not that bad l guess!
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i really want to eat out sakura
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>>153001071
yeah
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>>153001657
Name a better shounen heroine though? They're all useless. Every character in Naruto would be dead if it wasn't for her
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>>153001071
B E S T G R I L L
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>>153001964
Winry Rockbell. Wow that was easy. Seriously Sakura is cute and all but Kishi needs to learn to make characters likable.
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>>153001964
I can name very few that are worse than her like Orihime but almost any shonen heroine is better.
Nami is better. Ochako is better. Even freaking Lucy is better. None of these are good, but they're not nearly as shitty.
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>>153001071
no, but kishimoto clearly hates her, he almost fucking turns her into a canon-cuck

being displayed as a cuck in most popular manga of the world for everyone too see it's fucking devilish
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I wish that her budding romance for Naruto panned out after the Sasori/Rescue Gaara arc. She grew a lot and became powerful but just hit a fucking wall after that.
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>>153002105
>Winry Rockbell.
You're kidding, right?
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>>153001118
hit the foreskin of the nail
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>>153001071
No, she just doesn't deserve to be a main character. The real problem with her is her self inserting fans though.
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>>153001964
From the top of my head Ichiko, Lucy, Elie, Nami, Kaoru, Bulgaria, Morgiana, Ochako, Megumi and Tio though your van make the argument for Sherry too. There are a lot of shounen heroine that are better than Sakura.
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>>153003380
They're all whores in my opinion.
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>>153003123
Because she's a non-combatant who never makes promises about how she'll be useful next time?
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>>153003410
>whores
>most of them are either only interested in the MC or no one at all
>whores
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>>153001071

Worst secondary MC I have ever seen with an awful personality to boot.
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>>153001071
Maybe not. Kishimoto definitely deserves the hate for how badly she was handled though. Her only purpose was to be there for Sasuke and the 'romance' between them was handled horribly. It would have been better if Kishi gave a reason for why she liked him instead of 'he looks cool.'
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no just writer is retarded
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>>153003123
>he doesn't think Winry is a strong female protagonist

I bet you think Bulma is useless too.
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>>153001964

Bulma. And it's not even a little bit close.
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>>153001071
Sakura is just a byproduct of Kishimoto's either inability, refusal or simple editor meddling preventing him, from writing a good character.

Sakura is actually EASY to salvage. But the narrative spends VERY little time on her if any because Uchiha are popular so they devote at least 1/3 of the story to jerking them off.

She's not a great character but she (along with half the cast) certainly had potential.

But as she is now? She doesn't deserve the hate but she doesn't really deserve a lot of praise either. She's a badly written character in a badly written story that went on longer than it reasonably should have due to popularity.
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>>153003953
Given that when Kishimoto saw that Sakura wasn't very popular he thought that the solution would be to draw her prettier, that gives the idea of what he thinks of the female characters
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>>153004206
He seemed legitimately afraid that if he gave her more fight scenes every boy would put down the manga and stop reading entirely.

Like she was supposedly going to be great at genjutsu and then afterwards he just changed her to tsunadae two. And even then, having a powerful taijutsu fighter could still have made for some fun fights, but she's basically cut out of all fights after the Sasori fight.

She's a character in a shounen action manga, with decent skill with genjutsu and great skill with chakra control who NEVER fights.
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>>153003901
Bulma is a spoiled, rich cunt.
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>>153005072
Everyone in Dragonball is kind of an asshole. It's part of the charm, in my opinion.
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>>153003953
What is annoying is Sakura had started to come into her own at the outset of Part II. Only to quickly return to useless drooling Sasuke fangirl again.
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>>153001071
No, Kishi is the one who deserves hate.
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>>153002034
For some reason I really like SasuSaku. As a pairing it gets the best fanart and I think has the potential for the most interesting romantic dynamic. Unfortunately that dynamic is only utilized in fanart.
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All of the heroines from Jump's currently running action manga are better than Sakura. Kagura, Chika, Noelle, Nami, Ochako and of course Sarada. I don't even get why Sakura was the main heroine. She wasn't Naruto's love interest and she also had no plot relevance whatsoever.
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Other than not being annoying I don't see how Ochako is any better than Sakura.
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>>153005614
Yeah but sasugay needed a cocksleeve
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>>153005714
As a person I like Uraraka more, and her fight with Bakugou was actually pretty good. However since then she's gone to constantly talking about how great Deku is (to be fair, a LOT of the MHA characters felate Deku a lot)
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Sakura is a poor mans Ino.

Pinks only redeeming quality is the fact that she will inherit titkages ability to look young past her prime.
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>>153005614
Ochako isn't better. The rest there are, but it doesn't mean Sakura is the worst. Sakura suffers from terrible writing on the author's part, but she still has charm, relevant emotional support, and usefulness.

Sakura used to be the main love interest for Naruto. The author just changed it midway into the manga's story by having her be Sasuke's love interest.
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>>153006003
>Sakura suffers from terrible writing on the author's part
Yeah, actually all Rob Schneiders roles are fucking fantastic, it's just the writers sabotaging him with their stupidity.

I'm being sarcastic, i'm outright telling you because i heard that people on the spectrum has a hard time recognizing these things.
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>>153005801
Noelle handled a heroine having a crush on MC much better than Uraraka, and I say this as someone who thinks MHA is much better than BC.
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>>153006105
Yeah. My LEAST favorite thing about Uraraka is her crush on on Deku. She was fine, but now every single comic has her musing about how inspired she is by Deku.
Before that I thought she was fine but now that's become her whole character. I'm not sure whether to blame Horikoshi or if it's some editor interference, because it almost feels unnatural.
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>>153005714
she's not in love with a guy who tried to kill her multiple times, she has actual powers that aren't just copypasted from a better, stronger character, she's cute in canon and not just in fanarts, she has an actual motivation behind her career choice AND her crush

comparing ochaco to sakura is one of the worst shitposting trends in the bnha fandom and that's saying something given how cancerous this fanbase is
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>>153005475
Sunahara Wataru says you're lying
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>>153005890
I could never find Ino more attractive than Sakura.

Sakura was cuter than Ino as a kid.
Sakura was cuter than Ino in Part I
and Sakura looked better to me in part II as well.

Plus Ino is the only character who could even possibly Matter less than Sakura. Hell she stops using her signature Jutsu halfway through the series. Even TEN TEN still keeps her weapons gimmick.
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>>153005072
Whose an infinitely better person than Sakura.
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>>153006338
At least Ino wasn't a cunt who ended a friendship for her shit-tier crush. God, Sakura is just so unlikeable.
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>>153001118
Exactly. She's not as good as they'd make her out, but she's not as bad as their existence would imply.
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>>153005475
SasuSaku is shit, Sakura barely knows the boy and he's been a dick to her.
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>>153006281
The thing is the example I mentioned is similar because Noelle was also "inspired" by Asta to be better but the main difference is that Noelle's crush was treated with a comedic touch and we actually get to see the effects of her being inspired by Asta while Ochako's single "power-up" was learning some CQC more than a year ago. It also doesn't hurt that Noelle has her own character arc going on and more plot relevance/presence than Ochako.

Bakugou is a much, much better rival than Yuno, though.
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>>153001071
Yes and i would destroy here face if i ever met her for real.
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>>153006391
Wait I thought Ino ended their friendship. I honestly can't remember because that would have to involve me giving a fuck about WHY Ino and Sakura stopped being friends compared to

1. Naruto's lonely ass childhood
2. Sasuke's entire clan dying
3. Rock Lee's inability to master Jutsu
4. Hinata and Neji's classes, branches and family issues.
5. Gaara's somehow even more depressing past

Compared to that "we stopped being friends because of a cute boy" was a really unnecessary and lame story.
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>>153006466
>Noelle's crush was treated with a comedic touch
that's exactly how ochaco's crush is treated
>Bakugou is a much, much better rival than Yuno, though.
opinion discared

l'm starting to think people crying about ochaco are stupid cunts who're butthurt because she doesn't suck bakugo's dick like sakura did with sasuke
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>>153006483
H-have fun with that.
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>>153006551
Ochako crush was treated like some crippling issue for like 4 chapters.
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.>>153006003
>Ochako isn't better
>Never promises to become better only to fail so hard and get her ass kicked.
>doesn't backstab her friends for a guy she barely knows
>better personality
>isn't useless
how is that not better than Sakura? The only people who hate Ochako are those who hate her are salty shipperes or tumblrinas mad about her liking Midoriya, a nice guy who doesn't treat her like shit.
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>>153006338
Your taste in women is as bad as the shitty tumblr fanart you posted.

And who gives a shit abour their fighting ability? They're both cooking ninja jobbers, if they couldn't bear children they'd be working menial jobs while their ovaries dried up. Just look at Tenten, she failed to secure a sperm donor and now she's a store clerk with no future.

Ino is better looking, better aryan looks(genetics are everything), her body is built for sechs.
Also she's not nearly as much of a insufferable cunt.
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>>153006560
>>>153006483 (You)
>H-have fun with that.
I'd still find a way to do it, thats how much i hate her.
>>153006560
>>>153006483 (You)
>H-have fun with that.
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>>153006593
that was all in your autistic mind
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I don't hate her, she had a lot of moments where she was a really cool headed addition to the group

Like the above poster said though, easily redeemable but bad as she is
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>>153006518
It was Sakura who ended the friendship when she found out that Ino liked Sakura too, despite the fact that every girl in the village liked him. No wonder she doesn't have any friends.
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>>153001071
Okawari no suzuki. Kimino koto donpachi dekuru kikasete. Kokoro des...
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>>153006662
*Sasuke
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Friendly reminder that Sakura is one of the strongest female Ninja in the world. Likely only surpassed by Konan (RIP). Sarada is going to be stronger if that Kishimoto promo-art of her with the MS happens, though.
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>>153006593
It wasn't, it was just treated as though she had a crush on him and didn't want to admit it to herself. Unless your definition of "crippling issue" is the story not making a joke of it.
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>>153006701
Obviously. Sarada has Sakura megaton punches AND the Sharingan. Meaning not only can she fucking murder a motherfucker with her bare hands, but she can also out predict and out maneuver someone so that she'd basically never miss (Missing punches is perhaps the only reason Sakura didn't finish every fight in 1-2 punches)
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Kind of shounen heroines:
>normal childhood friend girls who don't fight but support MC from the side-lines (Keiko from YYH, the girl from Reborn)
>super-plot relevant McGuffin girls (Saori/Athena from Saint Seiya)
>"co-protagonist" even if at the end of the day MC will always end up saving the day (Benio from Twin Exorcist)
>plot relevant girl that somewhat fights by MC's side (Kagura, Noelle)
>normal (for the setting) girl that somewhat fights by MC's side without being his love interest (Sakura, Nami, Watari)
>normal (for the setting) girl that somewhat fights by MC's side and is also his love interest (Ochako)
>no heroine (Hunter x Hunter)
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>>153006701
Reminder that she had her powerups handed to her just so that Kishi could say that she actually achieved something.

Besides that just because a character given powerups and is shilled by the story so that they can stay relevant doesn't make them a good character.
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>>153005475
>really like SasuSaku
then you must be authistic and not normal. Normal folks find it really disturbing.

Look, I fucking hate hinata and naruhina. But that shit pales in comparison to the disgusting attrocity that is sasusaku.
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>>153006003
She was always Sasuke's love interest. People who self-insert into her jumped ship when Sasuke became evil and tried hooking her up with Naruto.
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>>153006595
But Sakura did get better and stronger. Cutting her hair was not for naught. When did she even backstab anyone? She tried to deal with Sasuke by herself and lied to protect Naruto too. And her skills/talent are far from useless even with bad writing. Many characters wouldn't be alive or fully functioning if she wasn't there. That includes Naruto. Sakura has a more attractive design and is cuter than Ochako when she and Naruto bickers like a couple or when she's deredere for Sasuke. Besides, Sakura gave us Sarada.
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>>153005475
>d I think has the potential for the most interesting romantic dynamic
It really doesn't. Sasuke is so fucking autistic I cannot figure out how he even married Sakura let alone knock her up.
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>>153006846
She trained "off-screen".
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>>153004503
How many times was genjutsu even used in the story outside of Uchiha powers? It was supposed to be one of the three main tennets of being a ninja but apparently Kishinoto couldn't be bothered to write anything involving it.
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>>153006901
>She was always Sasuke's love interest.
Word of God says that he changed it midway. It was said in an interview.
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>>153006866
They're a Sakura/SasuSaku fag being autistic of course they're autistic it goes without saying. They do not subscribe to reality.
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>>153006866
In a just world, Sasuke would've died LONG ago and Naruto and Sakura would've moved on.

In all honesty Rock Lee would probably be the best end game for Sakura.
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>>153001071
She's the epitome of the angry, violent tsundere girls trope, which is completely overdone and unlikable. Also while the trope was popular before her I think she still played a key part in its current over exposure.
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Sakura wasn't really tsundere. She was always lovey-dovey for Sasuke.
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>>153006518
It's not meant to be tragic nor it pretends to. It's just a story explaining the rivarly between Sakura and Ino.
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>>153006978
Rock Lee doesn't deserve this, he is a good boy.
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>>153006981
Oh, also she's completely useless 95 percent of the time, which just makes her attitude and violent tendencies even worse.
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>>153006940
Kishimoto tended to use Genjutsu as his "get out of jail free card"
If something seemed too bizarre or a main character or villain was fatally injured he'd say "Just kidding that was all genjutsu none of that happened" or " JK they actually used replacement Jutsu somehow at the last second despite that being feasibly impossible"
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>>153006959
Word of God says otherwise, which makes sense given how late into development it was before Sakura was even a concept.
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>>153006904
yeah you're a sperg
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>>153007050
I'm not saying it's not meant to be tragic. But it comes up in an arc where EVERYONE'S past is so engaging and interesting. Sakura's and Ino's is so petty and unmemorable it's hard to commit it to memory.
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>>153007082
"word of god" changes every interview, kishimoto is full of shit
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>>153007109
For pointing out why you are wrong? Hmm okay.
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>>153006904
>b-but the story shilled her a lot and gave a lot of promises, who cares if personality is shitty, and she actually fails a lot and gets thrown to the sidelines the moment she stands out.

>When did she even backstab anyone?
When she drugged Naruto so that she could go off and fight Sasuke, when she begged him to let her come with him when he was leaving the village and when she ended her friendship with Ino for you guessed it, Sasuke.

>And her skills/talent are far from useless even with bad writing
She's a main character and yet you can count on one hand the amount of times she's actually useful and needed.

>Many characters wouldn't be alive or fully functioning if she wasn't there.
I think you mean 3 characters. She's only ever healed Naruto and Gaara, and Hinata. Naruto is actually better at healing than she is, he's the one who healed the whole army.

>Sakura has a more attractive design and is cuter than Ochako when she and Naruto bickers like a couple or when she's deredere for Sasuke. Besides, Sakura gave us Sarada.
Wow gone full on delusional there haven't you Sakurafag?
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>>153001071
Nah, but she's such a fucking shit character. She had no real reason to still love Sasuke too, that shit felt like it would forced to make the story keep going
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>>153001071
I'm going to fap to the sarada doujins right now. That's the only thing that came out of that whole.
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>>153007004
So in other words she's was just a bitch.
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>>153007149
>he doesn't realize that he's talking to multiple anon
And anon's right you are a sperg.
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>>153006602
Ino is basically blonde Sakura, retard. You have no idea what you're talking about.

And Sakura is way prettier. You're just fucking lying to yourself.
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>>153007149
no, for defending a complete shit like sakura with your headcanons

of the thousands of fictional characters in mango you had to pick sakura as you're waifu, that's sort of tragic
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>>153007142
Then why bring up word of god in the first place?
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Are you serious, OP? She's the worst female character I've ever fucking seen in shounen. Damn you Kishi for making her your heroine.
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>>153007082
One of the weird thing about Part II of Naruto is that, because Sasuke's gone for so long and the fact that Naruto never really hangs out with anyone else, Sakura kind of becomes Naruto's De Facto "best friend." I almost wish that the series had gone more in that direction with Sakura just ending up as that kinda uncute boyish buddy of Naruto's that roots him on but isn't afraid to call him on his bullshit. They're honestly closer at this point than Sasuke and Naruto ever were. They make way more sense as bros than anything romantic.


Either Sakura or Shikamaru at least. Shikamaru probably hung out with Naruto 2nd most out of everyone. I don't even think he liked Naruto but they seemed to hang out a lot.

I guess really anyone who's not fucking Sasuke.
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>>153007276
>Ino is basically blonde Sakura, retard
Sakura was shy and unable to speak her mind before meeting Ino.
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>>153007301
Sasuke's entire relationship with Sakura is based on her fawning over him and him looking like he's TRYING to PRETEND to give a fuck.
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>>153007276
>Ino is a blond Sakura
>except she didn't want to end her friendship over some guy she barely
>doesn't treat her teammates like shit
>doesn't resort to violence when she's mad
>oh and she realized that Sasuke was shit and moved on
>blond Sakura
Yeah fucking right.
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>>153001071
She's cute and has a big heart. Also won the Saucebowl.
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>>153006901
No. If anything, Sasuke was HER love interest and was handed to her as a consolation prize for serving no role aside from being romantic fodder.
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>>153007276
>You have no idea what you're talking about.
I apologize, i didn't realize i was in the presence of a real life ANIME PRO!

Sakura is a selfish cunt, and Ino always looked better. She is less autistic and never needed to be defended by her salty fangirls while they spray a mixture of mayo and cheesedippers all over people. Your taste is shit.
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>>153007370
This picture is so painful to see. Is like Kishimoto gave up halfway
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Sakura was weird because Kishi really asspulled a lot of ways to keep her relevant in the final fight and it felt forced/obligatory. Same with Kakashi after Obito died.
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>>153007319
there was nothing friendly about the way sakura treated naruto even late into part 2 , it honestly felt like she barely tolerated him

remember how she talked shit to him after jiraya died because he was going to bother her master, what a bro indeed
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>>153001071
>Does she deserve the hate?
No, she deserved a better writer.
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>>153007319
>Sakura kind of becomes Naruto's De Facto "best friend."
And yet she didn't know why Naruto wanted to get Sasuke back, despite literally everyone else in the rookie 9 knowing.
>best friend.
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>>153006846
You can say the same about fucking Naruto and Sasuke.
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>>153007370
As someone who actually likes the sauce I'm still bitter he had to get with this bitch. I wish Kishi had found a better way to have him reproduce. Hell even Oro using some of his DNA to clone him would've been better.
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>>153007419
This entire image looks like giving up halfway.

Kishimoto gave up
Sasuke gave up
Sakura Gave up

The only person who didn't give up is Sarada. And she still has plenty of time for that.
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>>153007409
>S-Sakura was an important character despite the fact that he's the reason that she even exists
This delusion
Sasuke was always more important than her.
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>>153007166
Nice greentext bro.

None of the scenes you listed defines betraying. You have to reach hard to even define that as textbook betrayal when she is still on their side and only did what she thought was right.

You're on drugs. She has been useful way more than that. And you clearly aren't remembering jack given the numerous items she was sent or acted as a healer for more than just Naruto, Sasuke, and Gaara when there's Kakashi, Karin, and others she helped or kept alive. Naruto is the character she healed the most, often at critical battles and that says something.

Nice insult and instead of an argument.

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>>153007285
Sure whatever. You guys are just haters hating without the least bit objectivity.
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>>153007415
Get over it, queer. Don't act like Ino was never a cunt either.
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Sauce and Pink deserve each other
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>>153005475
Sasuke is the only guy (besides Lee) who actually respected her strength and knew how strong she could become, and she knew his edgy facade wasn't what he really was deep inside. They were meant to be.
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>>153007452
Except Naruto is the fucking main characters, and was given some given some level of characterization and backstory, ditto with Sasuke. They were allowed to stand out as characters and have their own arcs centered around them.

Sakura was only given the powerups to remain relevant, and she could barely even do that. Characters claim her to be the best but only useless 95% of the time.
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>>153007526
>None of the scenes you listed defines betraying.
asking sasuke to leave with him when he deserted from konoha to join orochimaru is textbook betrayal

of course you wouldn't know that as you're a sperg
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>>153007537
Ino might have been the occasional cunt, but it comes with the territory. The difference is that unlike Sakura it was never her defining trait.

Also your a faggot.
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Why did Naruto anime have such good OPs and EDs? I still find this ED hilarious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIG4_FLvRb0
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sai won
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>>153007595
>his edgy facade wasn't what he really was deep inside

He literally murdered people and tried to murder her. Like...even if you think there's still some good in him, he let it get to far. There's certainly a point where you need to just fucking give up on someone.

If anyone needed a full power Sakura punch to the face it was sasuke.
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>>153007605
They were fucking handed powers like a bargain sale. It's the same shit. But Sakura's was actually more reasonable, since she actually tried for her abilities. Not destiny handouts.
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>>153007616
Joining orochimaru? No such thing happened. You are a troll.
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>>153007700
I'd say Chouji won.
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>>153007700
>sai won
Imagine when he comes home after shopping for cute tops, and she asks if he wants to lick her stomach. Naturally he declines, but it's still a happy thought.
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>>153007700
Being the runner up for Sasuke since he's a blatant lookalike? Yes, he won indeed.
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>>153007701
He was only defending himself. She's the one who attacked him. They were enemies at that time, and he helped/saved her plenty when they were teammates.
Honestly, stop trying to hide against baseless arguments to justify your hate for this pairing when we all know Sakura is hated because she didn't fall into Naruto's arms.
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>>153001071
No matter how shitty Sakura is, she will always be better and more relevant than Hinata in the manga. Only the most fanboy among Hinatafags would dey it.
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>>153007738
>Chouji won
his kid is an annoying cunt that singlehandedly ruined the sarada oneshot
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>>153007520
Whoever said Sasuke wasn't more important than Sakura? Do you even know how to read?

Sakura wasn't Sasuke's love interest because Sasuke never showed any romantic interest in her, period. Sasuke isn't the reason Sakura exists. Kishimoto created her to fill out the team and because he was asked to add a girl, IIRC.

The only reason SS happened is because Sakura had nothing else going on for her character and Kishi needed a Sasuke spawn to pair up with Naruto's. That's it.
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>>153007839
deny*
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>>153007722
Man, the "Naruto Prophecy" ruins so much of the tension of Part II
He already had Uzamaki chakra, was the son of the 4th, and Had the nine tails to fall back on. But in addition to all of that he was now also the chosen one.

It's kinda hard to have an underdog story with a main character who's basically performing on an extreme handicap. Like if he gets his ass kicked I have to start asking "Wow he must not be trying at all."
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>>153007850
>ruined
Um... she made it a better experience, wanker.
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>>153007526
>deciding to choose a guy you barely know over your friend saved you from being a bullying victim and helped you to gain self confidence.
>not a betrayal.

>Deciding to leave your village to join the enemy village in order to follow that same guy who you barely know
>not a betrayal

>drugging your teammates
>not a betrayal

Definition of Betray
1. : to lead astray; especially
2. : to deliver to an enemy by
3. : to fail or desert especially in time of need
4. : to be unfaithful to

What Sakura did was betrayal, it doens't matter if she thought that she was right, she still performed an act of betrayal.

>You're on drugs. She has been useful way more than that.
No I'm remembering right, it's you whose overblowing everything you sperg. Then again you're a Sakurafag it's what you do.
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Why are Sakura fags so obnoxious??
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>>153001071
Yes and no. It's not her fault that Kishimoto destroyed her character. But she still embodies the final product. I'd rather feel pity for her.
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>>153007731
>And now your're in severe denial.
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>>153007850
What a pile of shit, i hope they get deported back to the ghetto village.
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>>153007863
And obviously, also because Sakura was more popular than Karin and SS than SK.
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>>153007787
>Thinking I don't like Sakura
I just don't like Sasuke as a character. He's honestly the worst thing about Naruto, hands down.

He makes every character worse because they're all so obsessed with "saving" him rather than "stopping" him.
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>>153007786
sai married ino so yes he won
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>>153001964
Erza Scarlet
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>>153007863
You did when you claimed that Sasuke is Sakura's love interest and not the other way around. When people say that X is Y's love interest it isn't about whose interested in the other, it's about who the main character is.
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>>153007928
Why are her haters even more obnoxious?
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>>153007863
>Sasuke never showed any romantic interest in her, period.
Ayy lmao. Re-read part 1, when he was still in the village.
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>>153007850
>Ruined
She was like the best part. I honestly want to see more adventures of salad and chew chew.
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>>153007971
The heroine is Lucy. Heroine means main girl.
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>>153004503
>the filler and movies treated Sakura better than the main series
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>>153007786
>better father
>better husband
>didn't ignore his family for 12 years
>didn't threaten to kill his son when he failed to recognize him
>doesn't look like snape
I'm sure Ino is crying herself to sleep for losing to Sakura.
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>>153007938
The Rain Village?
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>>153007996
He only ever treated her as a teammate and friend, at best, and an annoyance at worst.
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>>153007991
Her haters don't even bring her up unless there's pinkshitfags around chimping out about how nobody likes her.
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>>153007928
>>153007991
Basically all naruto faggotry is obnoxious. Even if you don't LIKE naruto, the second you start talking about it you become obnoxious.
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>>153008004
Ah, my mistake.

Well in that case, Naming from One Piece. At least she actually contributes to the story in a way that isn't crying,promising to be useful next fight or "G-go get em MC-kun!"
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>>153007999
Boruto x Sarada should be dumped and have this match up.
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>>153007787
>He was only defending himself. She's the one who attacked him. They were enemies at that time
this is what sasusakufags really believe

women were a mistake
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>>153008031
No the one with all the nigras.
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>>153007986
That's obviously not what I was aiming for, since I even explained what I meant. In either case, we can agree to disagree about the usage of the term.
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>>153008065
Haters are the ones prattling about how Sakura is a piece of shit every time. They're the ones chimping out.
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>>153007902
So liking Sasuke over Naruto somehow equals betraying. Yeah sure. Sakura didn't defect at all. You're making up shit. And the only time she drugged any teammates when she decided to go after Sasuke in order to deal/kill him. That isn't betrayal, retard.

Yeah, I'll take the word of a guy who thinks Sakura only healed and helped 3 people in the whole manga. I'm done with you, stupid hater.
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>>153008027
This. Even the novels handled Sai/Ino pretty well, better than Kishimoto ever would have anyway.

Hell, even Kishimoto has drawn Sai and Ino on a date, holding hands, etc. What has Sakura gotten? A deadbeat dad and a pseudo-cuck storyline.

Ino dodged a bullet.
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>>153003953
has she gotten over sasuke, things would have changed for the best.
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>>153008101
And yet you're not countering my argument.

>>153008059
What's the point of having them share hugs, touches and having him jelly over Naruto whenever he and Sakura become closer? He had a crush, not that hard to admit.
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>>153008086
Since Salad's already shown Lightning change in Chakra it'd be pretty cool if Chouchou got it too. Then we could get some awesome team moves between the two.
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>>153008134
You still don't get it. They only bring up her shittiness when pinkshitfags like you bring her up, asking why no one loves their Queen (all while shitting on Hinata/Ino).
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>>153008214
that's not what an argument is you mongoloid
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>>153001071
Not really. It doesn't help Hinatafags are a vicious and trigger-happy bunch to spur at any chance they get.
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>>153007991
>her haters even more obnoxious
Good burn.
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>>153008214
>having him jelly over Naruto whenever he and Sakura become closer
Holy shit this delusion.

And sharing hugs and touches? Did they ever touch when Sasuke wasn't either losing control of himself or nearly passing out from pain? Aside from knocking her hand away, trying to pry her off himself, knocking her apples and knocking her out, I mean.
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>>153008282
Okay, first off, we don't even do that. Second, the only time we DO ask why is when all of you are bashing her. (While also bringing up how Hinata and Ino are better than her. We are not the ones who bring those two up.)

Don't throw this on us.
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>>153008134
>>153008282
>>153008390


case in point:
>>153008315
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>>153008290
Proving my point
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>>153008376
>Knocking her apples
Is that a euphenism?
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>>153008261
>Then we could get some awesome team moves between the two.
Salad Diet No Chocolate For Fatass Collaboration Mike Pence no jutsu!
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>>153008282
Are you serious? You haters literally do 80% of the sperg and hate that goes on in Naruto threads. It's not even mere simple criticisms, but troll and shitpost into the ground like beating a dead horse. Most of the hate is over-the-top and gross exaggerations, barely valid. Many fans know her faults and the bad writing that she gets, so they don't treat her like a masterpiece or anything. But you guys throw her off the building completely.
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>>153008419
There is no "case in point". You haters start it all the time. We don't even hate Hinata or Ino. But you guys overestimate their importance to spite Sakura's character.
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>>153001541
>>153001071
She really does. I've been remembering some shit and god damn this character was insufferable.

First few chapters she shits on Naruto all day long, when he henge's as Sasuke and asks her what she thinks of Naruto she just fucking keeps shitting on him and just tossing around empty bully words. And then when shit hits the fan she comes running crying to him begging him to make it right, like when Sasuke fled the village she came to Naruto crying. She didn't even give a fuck that Naruto liked her or anything, she just wanted him to do her bidding so she could go back to liking Sasuke and tell Naruto to fuck off.

Sakura is complete fucking ass. Annoying little self centered bitch the kind I wouldn't bother having as a friend ever.
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>>153008419
>defensive, trigger-happy Hinatafag
Speak of the devil.
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>>153008376
You sound like knocking a bowl of apples is a big deal. It's not.
Saving her life and caring for her is a much bigger deal. But it's your choice to ignore it and I respect that.
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Hinatafags are most obnoxious.
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>>153008475

Case in point >>153008523
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>>153008514
you cannot be this fucking autistic. Is a simple question yet
>no she doesn't deserve it! hinatits/muh hinatafags
you don't need to bring other characters to defend her yet you do, is Sakura that shitty she has no good points on her own? defend her without bringing up other characters up. can you do it?
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>>153008475
Exactly! They just fly off the handle and go "She's a cunt! She's the worst character in the entire series! Everyone hates her! Kishi should have written her out or killed her off!, No one would care! Abd fuck you for saying otherwise!"
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She had a lot of potentials if the writer knew how to write complex and interesting female characters and a good love triangle plot that doesn't make you want to hang yourself from the sheer stupidity of it.

Plus if they gave her more to work with vis-a-vis her medical Jutsu and just gave her more to work with then she would've been amazing.

The hate comes from the fact that she had so much potential and it was fucking wasted hardcore.
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>>153008428
l hope you're baiting but l'm starting to think you might be the real deal and simply too retarded to understand you can't counter tautologies
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>tfw I will never be autistic enough to have this much vitriol for a fictional character
Feels good.
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>>153008523
>getting all that from the first few chapters of the manga
>not even knowing how Japanese tsundere works
Sometimes when you try too hard you forget certain details.
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>>153008655
You guys are the ones who bring up other characters in most of the threads! What are you fucking talking about, man?!
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Time to trigger you autists.
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>>153008739
>Hinata is in 3rd place.
>This makes the thread go nuclear.
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>>153008174
I didn't know summer came so early this year. You have to be 18 to post here, laddie. Out the pub you go.
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>>153008709
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>>153008739
Sakura has always been more popular in Japan. It's no secret.
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>>153008729
>Japanese tsundere
this meme again

she never warmed up to naruto, she started as a retarded bitchy sasuke fangirl and ended as one
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>>153008793
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>>153008828
Are you retarded? Sakura started caring a lot about Naruto all the way back into the chuunin exams. He's like a little brother to her.
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>>153008690
This for the most part. Wasted potential makes a character way more unlikable than simply writing them badly. Sakura is like...the best example of this because she's at the forefront for most of the series but that's a problem with a LOT of the Naruto cast.
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You faggots only hate Sakura because she is the most realistic female in the entire Naruto series. She's too real for you. Her existence scares you.
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>>153008729
What detail did I forget? About how even Sasuke got to the point of getting annoyed at how she was such a baseless, empty bully and told her she was annoying and didn't understand anything?

Or how about how Naruto saved her when Gaara was about to smash Sakura to death, and Sakura thanked Sasuke for it? Sasuke told her specifically that the one who saved her was not him, it was Naruto. What did she do afterwards, go thank Naruto? Nope, she just let it go then.

Don't worry, there are a LOT of details I left out in my post because honestly, I'm not going to fucking transcribe the whole fucking classic. But almost all of them are bad for Sakura.

All I see is me giving you a lot of valid, non-made up arguments, and your refutal is empty meme words like "try hard" that don't actually mean anything, while you proceed to completely ignore everything I'm saying, as if it didn't happen.
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>>153001071
She birthed Sarada so she deserves it slightly less now than she used to.
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>>153008870
l'm obviously talking about romance, which is what the tsundere archetype is about
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Friendly reminder that Sakura had one of the best fights in the whole series. It's a shame Kishi went full retard afterwards.
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>>153008886
>You faggots only hate Sakura because she is the most realistic female in the entire Naruto series
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>>153008870
>>153008828
I think it's because Sakura is still pretty violent with him.

I kinda saw that as them being close. She gets frustrated with him and will give him a punch but if they weren't close she probably wouldn't even bother.

That and it's just a running gag. I can't even feel bad about it because I know that Naruto heals like 10x faster than a normal man.
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>>153008828
Sakura warmed up to Naruto platonically over the course of the story, numbnut. It reached a point where she treats Naruto with care, worries, and affection like a close friend, but still retains a short-temper that can set off by him.
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>>153008886
I've been saying this for ages.
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>>153008968
Naruto went downhill after this fight.
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>>153008963
>romance
False. You have to be new to think romance is a dead requirement. Any bromance with a tsundere angle proved this a long time ago. That includes girls warming up to girls non-romantically like Kagami and Azusa.
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>>153008963
Tsundere doesn't need to involve romantic feelings anon.
>>153009117
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>>153008968

It was literally plot induced stupidity: the fight. Sasori was curbstomping them until he turned dumb
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>>153008968
Something about Sakura doing Taijustsu and punching people hard...Just...turns me on.

I think I liked her the most when she was violent or cracking skulls.
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>>153009014
it was never a matter of physical violence, autists who constantly mention muh punches miss the point

she's a cunt because she never respected and supported naruto like a friend would outside of life and death situations which makes the whole thing feel forced and unnatural

l mean fuck in gaiden naruto didn't even remember the circumstances of sakura's pregnancy and sarada didn't know him personally, you'd think best friends would be more familiar with eachother
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Sakura is love. Sakura is life.
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>>153009192
If you honestly think Sakura didn't support Naruto you need to reread the series.
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>>153009019
you're a fucking idiot

reread the entire conversation slowly a couple of times from the original post l replied to and if you still don't understand neck yourself
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>>153008968
It was so good. Sakura amounted to a single unit and most of the fight was going on between the two puppeteers but god was it good. The moment where the grandma gives her the poison was really touching too. When Sasori and the grandma died too. The female characters were so well written for once, I suppose Sarada's existence isn't so surprising after all, the hints of Kishimoto's competence were there. Just hidden underneath all the rubbish.
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>>153009213
I love her adult outfit, the tight white pants and the midriff is great.
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>>153009165
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>>153009236
>replied to a post to quote ">Japanese tsundere"
>then said Sakura never warmed up to Naruto
>even argued that tsundere needs to be romantic
>is proven wrong in the replies to his posts

You are the idiot. Please take your own advice.
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>>153001071

No but I enjoy watcher her suffer and also her fans are some of the most cancerous faggots around.
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>>153001071
>Pink hair.
>In love with the most neglectful, abusive guy in any village.
>Pink hair.
>Tries to bounce onto the closest person she knows will love her once she finds out her crush has gone off the deep end.
>Pink hair.
>Immediately goes back to her crush after he says sorry.
>Pink hair.
She's basically a real female trapped in an anime, and that disgusts me.
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>>153008933
Honestly Salad is the best thing to come from that shit pair
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>>153008886
>You faggots only hate Sakura because she is the most realistic female in the entire Naruto series.

HAHA, faggot! Sakura is nothing more than a vapid cunt who fangirls over a guy who for the most part treats her like shit and.....oh..
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Sakura a qt milf
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>>153009322
>sakurafags used to argue sakura wasn't a tsundere because she didn't love naruto and was all about sasuke
>now she's a tsundere because they think it somehow makes her less shit
truly the purest form of cancer
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>>153009192
>she never respected and supported naruto like a friend would outside of life and death situations
Stopped there. That's just wrong. What kind of glasses do you put on when you read the manga? You'd think all the time she spend worrying and caring for Sasuke AND Naruto would tell you something. She even broke down and was apologetic when she discovered the reason Naruto was so determined to save Sasuke. The times they argue, squabble, and mess around are fun times in both her and Naruto's eyes. That's what friends do.
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>>153006940
Genjutsu was overpowered so it wasn't used much. If you're caught in it, you should lose the battle immediately if your opponent is serious since he can attack you while you are trapped in an illusion.

Itachi was the #1 genjutsu user and even he was forced to rely mostly on ninjutsu and taijutsu in all of his important battles.
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>>153009607
They can't deny all the fucked up shit she has done, and she has done so many of them.

Literally the only thing they can even try to hold on is to say "well her whole character was based on her being shit at first and softening afterwards... so really it's ok, she is not shit guys".

Give them a break. It's the only card they have left.
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>>153009607
Source: your asshole. No one in their right minds would say she isn't tsundere. She was always considered that since forever. Most of the shipping is literally built on that fact, you retard.
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>>153009607
Calm down, Hinatafag. No one is out to get your waifu.
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>>153009558
Milf Sakura combinest he best things about young makeup wearing Part I Sakura and Tomboyish Part II Sakura.
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>>153009639
she broke down after sai basically called her a cunt for using naruto, which is, guess what, not something a friend would do

and they don't mess around, there's like one scene where she talks shit to him for being a retard and he acts like a submissive bitch afterwards, how heartwarming

l know this is /v/ and people don't know what having friends is like but l assure you that's not how you're supposed to treat people you care about
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>>153007700
He is a homo, so I guess he actually lost.
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>>153009768
>sakurafags immediately jump to muh hinata scapegoat when they're out of arguments to defend their imaginary girlfriend
hinata is shit but nice try, cocksucker
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>>153009838
>cunt for using naruto
Can you, like, not make shit up? Sakura isn't aware and certainly consciously manipulating Naruto in any way.

>talks shit to him for being a retard and he acts like a submissive bitch
Post the scene in question with proper context. I doubt it'll be after she warmed up to him.
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>>153001071
Yes. Every last bit of it.
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>>153008390
>Okay, first off, we don't even do that

What bold faced lie. Between the guy from /vg/ and that one deranged dude whose posted literally the same "hinata btfo" gif for about a year now it's almost like they want people to dislike them. Couple that with shit like Sakura fans hoping for Hinata's death against Pain and you easily have the nuttiest and most vicious character fanbase in battle shonen. No other breed of characterfag even compares.
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>>153008829
That's cute.

But what is even the point of Sasuke keeping the shirt's long sleeve?
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>>153010071
>the guy from /vg/
Hello.
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>>153009982
>Sakura isn't aware and certainly consciously manipulating Naruto in any way
l know you're an idiot and you probably use sakura as self insert so you've concluded she was as stupid as you but she's supposed to be intelligent, she knew full well what she was doing
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>>153010071
What are you, a /v/ermin? How do you even know what?
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>>153008027
But Sai is gay. He craves the cock. At least Sasuke isn't-wait, never mind.

Ino still wins.
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>>153001071
Making fun of Sakura became the only reason to watch this shitfest.
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>>153010159
Probably just doesn't feel like messing with the sleeve.
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>>153001964
Jolyne Kujo
Rukia Kuchiki
Kaoru Kamiya
Kagura from Gintama
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>>153009175
The only real stupid thing Sasori did was send the third kazekage's puppet to kill Sakura directly instead of shoving more iron sand at her.

If you want plot induced stupidity just watch Naruto vs Kakuzu
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>>153010071
Reminder that Hinatafags wrote this upon Hinata's "death" in the Pain arc.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4891287/1/The-Deaths-of-Kishimoto
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>>153003123
>she has to be able to fight to be a good, useful character
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>>153003953
Didn't Kishi himself admit that he dropped the ball with her character?
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>>153009690
Yeah, I remember someone saying that the Uchiha were unbeatable in 1 v 1 fights because of the eyehax genjutus.
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>>153010166
>whole chapter spent on showing how much of a shock and revelation it came to her when she found out about how Naruto turned her wanting to bring back Sasuke into a promise
You're retarded. This is kind of thing why Sakura haters are obnoxious and cancer. You people will say, twist, and make up anything if you have to.
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>>153009407
>She's basically a real female trapped in an anime, and that disgusts me.
Holy shit, it all makes sense now.
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>>153010183
>/v/ermin

Wrong board. Naruto threads didn't used to last here so a containment general developed on /vg/.
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>>153010227
He'd be pulling off the vest if it weren't for the missing arm.

It's been over 15 years, he should just get a new arm, especially if he is going to dedicate his life to being an overpowered alien hunter.
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>>153010202
>>153010227
Say what you will about her, but I find Sakura INSANELY fuckable.

Hell, she's probably so pent up after all these years she'd rock your world (and crush your pelvis)
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>>153010421
There's a reason she gets the most doujins. She's extremely fuckable.
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>>153010413
Naruto and Sasuke are such retards that they pointlessly blew each others arms off for no real reason by clashing the same attacks together that they've done 3 times already.
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They are still my favorite trio/main character group in any Jump manga.
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>>153010332
yeah, he flat out said even young girls hated her hahaha

and then his master plan to make her more popular was to draw her prettier like 5 volumes before the end

sasuga kishimoto sensei, truly a modern genius
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>>153009175
It wasn't plot induced stupidity. Sasori saw his parents coming to embrace him and hesitated. That was exactly the psychological weakness that Chiyo was counting on.

Sasori made other mistakes too, but it's normal for characters to not use their abilities optimally. Otherwise Kakashi would have killed most of Akatsuki with Kamui.
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>>153010474
I HATE the doujins that give her cow tits. Honestly Sakura is the first slim build athletic type body in a shounen that I really found super appealing. She's got JUST enough boob and a slight curve in all the right places, and I can't imagine it's not at least a little toned.
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>>153009607
Sakurafags either
A: just like her design fappable and and pretend she's a "good character"

B:Landwhales and fags who self insert because they want to fuck Sasugay ( think Bella Swan and Ed Cullen) and pretend she's a "good character"
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>>153010570
Well at least he handled Hinata well. Probably because he got more attached to her character.
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>>153010599
Same.
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>>153010494
>clashing the same attacks together that they've done 3 times already.
Maybe that's why they thought that their arms wouldn't blow up?
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>>153010529
It's a shame Kishi was forced to rush into the chuunin exams so they didn't get as much bonding time as they should have.
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>>153010635
The actual power in the final attacks was probably about the same as their final clash in part 1, but instead of mostly canceling out it was released explosively due to Sasuke adding his black flames into it. Oops.
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>>153009982
>Sakura isn't aware and certainly consciously manipulating Naruto in any way.
Not him but that is just not true.

First of all, she always knew Naruto liked her. That was literally never a mystery. Didn't change the fact she was a complete cunt to him though, because that's just the kind of shit person she is.

And she has consciously manipulated or attempted to manipulate him multiple times. Like when Sasuke escaped she turned to Naruto to tell him to bring Sasuke back no matter what. She knows Naruto likes her, she knows Naruto has a big heart, she knows Naruto will do anything if she asks him for it, so she asks Naruto to bring Sasuke no matter what. You know what "no matter what" means? Even if you die, lose a limb, get fucked, it's ok, as long as you get the job done. That's what no matter what means. She asked someone who likes her to go get fucked in order to bring her true love back, because that's all that matters in the end. That's the kind of person she is. Nevermind the fact Naruto has a huge heart and was already going to do that even if she didn't say anything, it doesn't change the fact she tried to manipulate him into it.

I just can't stop remembering situations where Sakura was a complete cunt, like when Shikamaru stayed behind to serve as living bait knowing he would most likely die in order to save Sakura and Naruto, and the first thing Sakura did was doubt him and assume he was to betray them. Shikamaru would have died if Asuma hadn't showed up, meanwhile Sakura couldn't do shit but brand Shikamaru a traitor.

Or when Sasuke, all of the sudden, went fucking crazy with 0 provocation and started to bully Naruto into accepting a fight on the roof of the hospital and Sakura still blamed them both equally, as if Naruto was to blame just as the crazy fucking unstable fucker who decided he wanted to fight and possibly kill his teammate all of the sudden.

Do Sakura fags have the memory of a fucking fish?
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>>153010625
>Well at least he handled Hinata well
Really? He did nothing with her except remind us every now and then that she loves and admires Naruto.
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>>153010625
Hinata is a shit character too and gets treated probably worse than Sakura if you count how irrelevant she is, and that's in spite of the fact she's supposed to be the main love interest for Naruto. Also, Hinata was barely more popular a couple of times than Sakura.
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>>153010529
I honestly wish we got to see them being friends more in the series proper.

Like the characters keep SAYING that they're friends but we almost always see them being unfriendly to each other.

Just a scene of them all hanging out. Or Sakura and Naruto having a fun enjoyable conversation. Naruto and Sasuke having...any conversation. Sakura and her "husband" being romantic.

Basically the story TELLS you these three are friends and expects you to accept that but they don't really hang out, talk or anything. It's one of the few things the Filler arcs did right. We at least got to see them hang out and get along a bit.
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>>153010702
>if Naruto was to blame just as the crazy fucking unstable fucker who decided he wanted to fight and possibly kill his teammate all of the sudden.
Naruto was partly to blame, he was the first one to pull out the killing technique.
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>>153010656
I love how, even in the Team 7 Ultimate Sakura has to be like
"I'M HERE TOO GUYS, JEEZ"

Like even the game understands how fucking underutilized her character was.

It's still a pretty cool attack though.
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>>153008829
>here we see Sarada inserting the kunai tag into the back of Edo Tensei Sasuke's skull to get him to obey Sakura's commands
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>>153010739
>Sakura and her "husband" being romantic.
You won't ever get any kind of romance between heterosexual couples while Kishi is writing and the anime studio only gives a shit about NH.
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>>153010855
>ou won't ever get any kind of romance between heterosexual couples while Kishi is writing and the anime studio only gives a shit about NH.

So you're saying there's hope?
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>>153010739
>Sakura and her "husband"
He's her husband though. I still find it laughable how you guys think Sasuke would tie himself to a loveless marriage. That guy does whatever he wants, always did. Unlike Naruto who always thinks about the people's opinion of him.
But then again this is /a/. Everyone is too immature to understand how relationships work.
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>>153010702
>trying to make her into a master manipulator with such bullshit
(You)
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>>153010625
haha no

the only reason people think hinata was handled well is because she was part of a popular pairing

she's almost as poorly written as sakura
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>>153010927
I love when people talk about Sakura and Sasuke as if they are actual characters and not shallow self inserts
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>>153010927
I put "husband" in quotation marks because he basically married sakura, put a baby in her, and then fucked off for SUCH a long period of time that he not only didn't recognize his daughter when he saw her but that she basically didn't know a SINGLE THING ABOUT HIM.

Maybe sasuke does love her. But damn that is a pretty depressing "marriage".
>>153007370
THIS IS ONE OF THE HAPPIEST FAMILY MOMENTS OF SALAD'S LIFE.
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>>153010920
Maybe, I don't know how Kishi feels about girl homolust.

We are more likely to get shit between Bort and that Kawaki guy.
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>>153010927
>u dont understand sasuke-kun like l do!!
really makes you think
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>>153010739
That's why this is the best filler of all time.
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Sexiest ninja at least.
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>>153011043
Girls can't love girls, it's just an adolescent phase.
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>>153011050
Can you spread your autism somewhere else?
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>>153011058
I miss when Sasuke was allowed to make funny faces
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>>153011087
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>>153010474
Or, you know, she's the female lead.
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>>153011127
nah l think l'll stay here and trigger you some more
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>>153011154
>penis inspection day at the Konoha academy
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>>153011130
Man, I miss Kishimoto's old art. You can argue that it did get a lot better (which it did) but it was so much looser and cartoony back then. Everyone was more expressive and it was a lot less generic looking.
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>>153011058
It felt weird to see Sasuke being a team player for a change.
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>>153011239
He was always a team player until after Itachi showed up, then it all went to shit.
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>>153011201
l don't think it got better

it got more generic and easier to consume for the mainstream but he still made huge technical blunders late into part 2
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>>153001071
She's inconsistent.
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>>153009025
Being realistic doesn't equate to being retarded.

No sane woman would still be in love with Sasuke or want to marry him.
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>>153011350
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>>153007082
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2015-10-14/masashi-kishimoto-at-new-york-comic-con/.94186

Kishimoto backpedaled and is doing damage control.
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>>153008878

And for the most part, she was loved as well as her design was good and she was somewhat popular, I was rooting for Naruto to get with her and hoping she would get a meaningful chance to shine in a badass moment or do some bad ass thing, it's only until the end when it became apparent that it would not work that way.
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>>153011633
why are these dumb sluts eating radioactive slime
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>>153011700
>And for the most part, she was loved as well as her design was good and she was somewhat popular
>things that never happend
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>>153011267
She may have filled out But that doesn't mean the butt is gone.
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>>153011350
Fuck this face is priceless.
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>>153011087
That's not Konan
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>>153011504
Man everyone had HUGE collars in early Naruto.
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>>153011817
Ayyy
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>>153011700
Honestly I never shipped her and Naruto. They just don't mesh well as a couple.
Rather, She would work much better as Naruto's friend, which I guess is what she was supposed to be?

I don't think Kishimoto really understands friendship
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>>153011901
Is this pic official? It looks too good to be fanart
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>>153011959
Looks like it's from Jump beach spread covers.
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>>153010474
>doujins are always big tits cuck shit with Naruto
Annoying
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>>153012087
Those are mostly just 2 artists though.
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>>153012184
Yeah youre right.
The other ones with cuck shit but small tits.

All her porn is the same.
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>>153011954

I thought they did, she felt like the kind of wife who would be perfect reeling in the hyperactive and loudmouth Naruto, plus the fact that it would've been cool to see her feelings progress for Naruto and realise that Sasuke was simply a childhood crush would've added more emotional depth and maturity to her character.

But no, she's just a shit anime character in my eyes now, best to move on and not worry about it.
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>>153001071
For the most part I found her uninteresting and irrational. But I did enjoy her fight with Lady Chio against Chucky. It was nice how it highlighted how she was still a major scrub but she still managed to win.

Also I haven't read the new series but just from the process of information osmosis I can guarantee you she didnt deserve this
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She deserves cock. Her MILF form is godly. That's about it. The only other good thing about her is her daughter who is a miracle of the universe.
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>>153012392
Narusaku fags. When will they learn?
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>>153010656
Why is Sakura even there?
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>>153012740
Part of the team?
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>>153012766
But her power is a drop in the bucket compared to the pair of literal Gods her teammates turned out to be.
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Anyone got a sakura draw request? I kinda wanna doodle her now.
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>>153012354
Main character doujin syndrome, I guess.
Though there are probably a decent amount of SasuSaku hentai doujins that are just never posted online.
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Say what you want about her but she was better than the autistic retarded hyuuga whore that could only cry nruto kuuun when on screen (like once half a year)
I am actually still mad she lost
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It's kinda funny to think about it, but technically she's one of the strongest, if not the strongest, living ninja without any kind of genetic power or some similar to that.
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>>153012842
You could say the same about a lot of the Combination Jutsus.

At least she does more than Rin in the Team Minato one.
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>>153013153
>if not the strongest, living ninja without any kind of genetic power or some similar to that.
Yeah, I guess those would be Guy, Lee, the samurai leader and her.

I don't know if Tsunade and Tobirama count since despite inventing their own techniques, they are members of the strongest clan in the Nardoverse.
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>>153013266
Fuck and I can't believe that I forgot Minato
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>>153007319
shikamaru is a better best friend to naruto that sakura could ever hope to be
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>>153013266
>>153013308
Minato's dead and Guy's crippled.
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>>153013225
rin had enough chakra to be a jinchuriki, something sakura coudnt be able to pull off
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>>153014150
>something sakura coudnt be able to pull off
She has enough chakra to pull off a giant summon.
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>>153001071
No. The problem wasn't the character, it was the writer. Better done, she would have been very likeable.
During Sasori's arc she actually was cool, but after that she was simply an amazing doctor and strong kunoichi that did literally nothing for the rest of the series. All Kishimoto had to do was giving her real fights and make her get over Sasuke, maybe develop her friendship with team 7 (Sai included) and Ino. That's it.
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>>153014297
Nobody got fights in late game Naruto. The entire war arc was just "talk-no-jutsu""-ing the zombies and everyone jobbing against Madara.
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>>153001446
no?
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>>153014297
I wouldn't mind her not getting over Sasuke if at least he had to re-earn her trust. But nope, she's as wet for him as she was she was introduced.
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>>153014297
>No. The problem wasn't the character, it was the writer. Better done, she would have been very likeable.
that's a completely idiotic thing to say

"this hypothetical version of sakura that'll never happen would be likable!" why thanks for the insight

sakura written by kishimoto is the only version of sakura that exists, therefore if kishimoto wrote her poorly she's a shit character, everything else is just braindead rationalization
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>uses Naruto to save her one sided crush who has tried to kill her numerous times
>Naruto gets shafted time and time again by her rejecting him
>Has a god awful character design, not cute at all
>Is fucking useless from beginning to end, only cool fight she was in, a grandma had to fucking control her
This is literally the definition of worst girl. I'm not even in a Hinatafag its all bout that fine blonde cake baby
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my baka
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>>153016189
>uses Naruto
A birth of a new meme.
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>>153016189
Naruto was always gay for Sasuke. Sakura didn't force him to be gay, idiot. Naruto had his own gay wish to get Sasuke back. Sakura's emotional outburst asking to get him back merely reinforced what Naruto wanted and to try extra harder because it's also Sakura's wish.
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>>153008739
>Bandai namco poll
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As a reminder, Hinata had a complete character arc while Sakura did not.
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>>153001071
really, Kishimoto deserves all of the hate for writing such a shitty, one dimensional girl character
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>>153017374
>Hinata had a complete character arc
Where?
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>>153016642
Make it happen motherfucker
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Sakura a shit
The ones who are arguing on Sakura's side are either trolls or idiots who never bothered to read Naruto at all. Ignore them.
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>>153017475
Maybe he implied the movie?
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>>153017475
>Starts out shy wallflower unable of talking to Naruto or even looking him in the eye
>Becomes confident, capable of slapping him if need be

Meanwhile, with Sakura
>Starts out as a crying doormat for Sasuke
>Ends up as a crying doormat for Sasuke
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>>153017551
Literally where?
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>>153001964
People don't even realize it, but pic related was THE best heroine we've had in ages.
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>>153017632
>Sakura
>doormat
So you stopped after the first timeskip, huh.
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>>153010253
literally walked 7 miles in subfreezing conditions to get to my house to post this
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>>153017723
>End of first part
>Tearful confession
>Sasuke knocks her out
>She remains in love with him

>End of second part
>Tearful confession
>Sasuke knocks her out
>She remains in love with him
WOW SUCH A TRANSFORMED CHARACTER
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>>153008968
Chiyo carried both of them in that fight, Sakura didn't do much except get a few punches in.
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>>153017632
That's basic shit. Sakura developed long before Hinata did needed a movie set after the manga ended. She warmed up to Naruto and quit being a totally crybaby towards Sasuke. Sakura had planned on killing Sasuke when things seem bleak at point.
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>>153017830
And destroy both of Sasori's main puppets
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>>153017852

>Hinata did needed a movie set after the manga ended

Hinata's arc finished before the movie. The movie actually wraps up Naruto's arc, which is why "The last story of Uzumaki Naruto is love" was one of the taglines.

>She warmed up to Naruto and quit being a totally crybaby towards Sasuke

"Being slightly less of a cunt" is not a complete character arc. No, she does not become less of a crybaby. She cries in 699 upon healing Naruto and Sasuke. She cried right before they went to fight, too. She's just a crying doormat for Sasuke, same as she always was.

>Sakura had planned on killing Sasuke when things seem bleak at point.

Oh and then what'd she do? She stopped and CRIED.
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>>153014295
Only after years of saving up her chakra.
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I don't know, she does deserve to be a little bit hated. Her throwing a tantrum and destroying her fucking house when Salad asked a simple and easily answerable question is completely ridiculous.
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>>153001071
Not really, if anything I pity her for destroying her life running after a dipshit whose only reason he stuck with her was that she was the only one who would be willing.
And even then all she got out of it is an useless daughter and a no position despite her great abilities.
She did not deserve it to be honest.
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>>153001071
It was impossible for me to like her after she made fun of Naruto for being an orphan. I knew better then that when I was 12 years old.
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>>153018014
Salad is based as fuck anon, she was the only good thing that came out of their relationship.
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>>153001071
Sakura was fine as fuck, but she was a shit character. She doesn't really deserve the hate for it tho. Most of the cast of Naruto was shit characters. I think the reason why she get so much more shit is because people self insert as Naruto.
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>>153018104
Is she ? I've stopped at her autistic antics about being someone's else daughter or something.
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>>153018104
Until she too fell under the "no consequences for Sasuke" spell, and instantly accepted the "bond" she had with the man that almost killed her because he couldn't even recognize his own daughter.
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>>153017936
>Hinata's arc finished before the movie
No, it didn't. Moments of bravery isn't new for Hinata. Naruto and Hinata's interactions were severely lacking and voided for most of the manga. The movie was needed to make sense of it and give Hinata a new and conclusive development.

>"Being slightly less of a cunt" is not a complete character arc.
Sakura treats Naruto like a brother with tons of affection for the part in the second half of pt2. Do tell how is that being a cunt at all?

>She cries in 699 upon healing Naruto and Sasuke. She cried right before they went to fight, too.
Nigga, being emotional and crying tears of joy and sadness doesn't equal being a crybaby like she used to be.

>She stopped and CRIED
She still almost went through with it, which at that point is development. She was angry and criticized herself for being unable to do it.
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>>153018222
She is Sakura's kid
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>>153018268
>No, it didn't

Yeah it did. With the slap, she was able to walk beside him, which is her stated goal as a character. She was able to overcome her shyness. She had gained confidence.

The movie was for Naruto's maturity.

>Sakura treats Naruto like a brother with tons of affection for the part in the second half of pt2. Do tell how is that being a cunt at all?
Need I post the fake confession?

>Nigga, being emotional and crying tears of joy and sadness doesn't equal being a crybaby like she used to be.

Literally when Naruto and Sasuke go off to fight she does the same bullshit she did at the end of part 1: cry, confess, get knocked the fuck out.

>She still almost went through with it, which at that point is development. She was angry and criticized herself for being unable to do it.

ALMOST. But she couldn't do it because she just loved Sasuke so huggy-muggy much.

It'd be one thing if they really stuck to that true love thing, like Kishi did with Hinata, and have Sakura be at all connected to Sasuke's story. But she's not. She has no hand in his redemption. Naruto and Itachi drive Sasuke's return to the light. Sakura has ZERO agency in Sasuke's story, unlike Hinata, who has multiple moments where she directly influences Naruto's journey.

Sakura's character is almost completely void of growth or change. She only gets stronger. Her character does not.
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>>153018104
>>153018314
Sarada is great. Already the best girl in the new series.

Having a better author behind the writing helps a lot.
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>>153001071
No, Sakura is best girl or at least better than Hinata. It's mostly the West who hates her anyways and they are relevant to Japan who are more than fine with her, shitty writing aside.
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>>153018533
Fuck off, pinkshitfag.
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>>153017374
Sakura had a complete character arc. It was so complete, it took her 360 degrees back to right where she started.
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Naruto had a good soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvO8xJVy6Y
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i'm still worried that the anime would make sarada as violent as sakura towards boruto. if they don't let her go anywhere near that cliche i would be so happy
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>>153018222
>I've stopped at her autistic antics about being someone's else daughter or something.

She found some pretty convincing evidence of it. Too bad it was just a ruse.
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>>153018913
I actually never minded Sakura's violence, but at the same time I'd rather Sarada be her own person than Sakura 2.
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Does Boruto have byakugan?
That would be interesting with rasengan.

>>153018913
Imagine Sarada with sharingan and Sakura strength, maybe even with chidori too, fighting Boruto with byakugan and rasengan.
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>>153001071
Everything in Naruto deserves to be hated. Except Salad.

She doesn't deserve it any 'more' than anyone in that normalfag shitfest, though.
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>>153019162
>Does Boruto have byakugan?

No. However, the flash-forward has him activating an eye that looks Byakugan-ish, and Kishimoto's art of the kids with their power-ups shows him with Byakugan-like eyes. The catch is that he doesn't have the veins that activated Byakugans always show.
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>>153001071
No its just the way the author writes females. He really hates their guts and thinks they are mostly worthless, you can feel it through his writing almost the whole time.
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>>153018512
She already did something similar in Pain's arc. it's consistent with moments of bravery she sometimes shows since earlier parts of the manga, namely against Neji. The only real difference is she finally said it to Naruto that she wants to by him, that's something already know for a very long time.

>fake confession?
The fake confession where she confess to Naruto for his own sake. You would only be helping my case.

>Literally when Naruto and Sasuke go off to fight she does the same bullshit she did at the end of part 1: cry, confess, get knocked the fuck out.
She was out before the fight and it wasn't because she needed saving. Sakura helped in the final battle. Before even that, she had already confess, which is not new since her love for Sasuke is something people around her knew and Sasuke too. Sakura has been gunning for him sine day one. And after all the shit Sasuke did, she can't stop her feelings for him. She knows it and criticizes herself a lot, it's a flaw of hers. But she didn't give up loving Sasuke, and that proved to be a great thing in the end. It's the same for Naruto, non-romantically.

Sakura's arc doesn't hinge on changing her love. You're are misdirecting the main issue. Sakura simply isn't the crybaby she used. She stepped up, training, tried to make hard choices like lying to protect Naruto or taking it upon herself to kill Sasuke. And of course warming up to Naruto is another major thing to her character. But Sakura is still a girly girl and getting emotionally tearful, not a crybaby who just sits there, is something that happens naturally and consistently to her character.
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>>153001071

yes she's a terrible human being


in the road to the ninja movie

>everyone's parents congratulate them after a mission while Sakura's embarrass her
>Naruto' parents aren't even there since they are dead
>Naruto gets very depressed over this
>rather than comforting him Sakura bitches to him about her parents embarrassing her
>tells Naruto she wishes she had no parents
>tells him Sasuke(a boy whose entire extended family was killed by his brother would understand
>in the genjutsu world were her parents were dead
>she literally dances for joy over it.
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>>153019162
>Does Boruto have byakugan?
>That would be interesting with rasengan
What does that accomplish other than being able to see behind him?
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>>153001071
Nah, I like her.

She's a badly-written character, but I feel sorry for her more than anything. She doesn't deserve to get shit on by the story or her haters.
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http://narutocouple.wikia.com/wiki/SasuSaku
http://narutocouple.wikia.com/wiki/NaruHina
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>>153018314
Is Gaara gay?
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>>153019331
Doing that 64 punches move and other shit Neiji id but with rasengans.
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>>153019392
>SasuSaku is thicker and has more scenes together than NaruHina
That's pretty sad considering its SasuSaku.
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>>153019458
What's the point? Rasengan is already a killing technique.
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>>153019471
http://narutocouple.wikia.com/wiki/NaruSaku
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>>153019413
No, just an autist
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>>153019140
>doesn't know if actually he wears glasses
>sakura avoiding the question and destroyed the house when sarada mentions sasuke
>faints soon after through half of the gaiden
>shizune never tell her why sarada doesn't have a birth certificate
>carelessly appears out of nowhere and attack the enemy and getting herself kidnapped soon after.
>turns out sakura left the village pregnant with sakura without no one knowing
can you blame sarada,she's not even born in konoha
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>>153001071
No, but no-taste haters are gonna hate.
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>>153019533
Almost same size as NaruHina....
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>>153019607
>can you blame sarada,she's not even born in konoha
Sarada confirmed for superior ninja.
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>>153019223

I want her to find out the truth about everything and then sperg out and leave the village with Boruto.
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>>153019607
>can you blame sarada,she's not even born in konoha
So she can't be hokage?
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>>153019846
yes she can. Konaha isn't america you faggot
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>>153007082
>putting Shikamaru in the same category as Kiba and Sakura

Jesus, Kishi can't even recognize his decently written characters from the shit ones
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>>153020102
>decently written characters
Shika is literally a power fantasy for idiots.
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>>153007301
I actually liked that last panel.

It was Naruto realizing very early on that pinkshit was always gonna fawn over Sasuke, and he was happy she was happy.

He moved on from her romantically like a mature person, while Sakura couldn't stop crushing on an emo moron sociopath.

Ironically, in the end Naruto was the most mature and responsible person on his team despite being made fun of and berated all the time
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>>153020259
he's really weak though?
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>more views than any other Naruto evolution

Sakura's hotness and prettiness can't be denied.
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>>153020331
Jesus, the last one looks awful
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>>153008886
Get better female friends or acquaintances
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>>153020273
looks dead inside though
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>>153001071
i hate that naruto end with jith hinata anf no with her.
that wouldnt had hapend in the 90s
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>>153020399
Well, what do you expect him to do? To laugh, jump and throw flowers in the air? Heartbreak hurts man.
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>>153020486
Try that again?
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>>153020486
In the 90s it would have gone for open ending or asspulled pairings
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>>153020331
15 is best.
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>>153020665
But 18 is fine too.
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>>153020501
I suppose. It really reminds me of the look people gave when they sacrificed themselves like when asuma or jiraiya died
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say what you will but she was a pretty cool character when she beat puppet master
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>>153020975
Sasori commited suicide but I agree, she was cool there. Wish Kishimoto decided to keep writing her like that
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>>153021245
it's more about shitting on Sasori than about sakura being good desu. He was dishonored by losing to her
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I can't think of a single female character in Naruto who isn't a worthless cum dumpster with the exception of maybe Tsunade. His male characters aren't all completely awful, so how the fuck does he manage to screw it up like this? Is he actually sexist?
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>>153018128
Actually Sakura is the go to self insert for fags that want Sasuke's cock, there were plenty of good characters in Naruto but most were either killed or forgotten about
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>>153021469
lady chiyo?
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>>153021469
He's a nip-beta. Girls are a completely different species to him.
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>>153021612
She's alright. Kishi seems to have his grandma characters down at least.
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>>153012184
those two are basically the only artists doing non-fujo naruto porn these days
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>>153009558
I still have no idea how Pinkshit and "Yeah....Sorry." made best girl
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>>153021925
I assume their bad parts canceled each other when making Sarada.
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She doesn't deserve all this attention. The writer himself never cared enough.

I will say this about the fake confession. While she was misguided and conceited and definitely went about it the wrong way, she was being selfless. Naruto was the one who was being selfish, as shonen heroes tend to be stubborn about anything they feel is right. In a way, it's Naruto's fault she could keep being an Saucegay fangirl.

I don't like her but it is what it is. It's still all on Kishi though.
>>153021469
Because he's a Toriyama fag.
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>>153019471
>>SasuSaku is thicker and has more scenes together than NaruHina
They're teammates.
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I am so glad that she ended up as a struggling single mother who had all her medical potential canned
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I never understood why people didn't think she was cute in the konoha. Same with Naruto. If you look at Naruto he's actually crazy handsome.
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>>153019471
Why? They're both main characters.
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>>153012425
Ramen>Boruto
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>>153001071
The alternate world Sakura is so much better than the one we got
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I like Pierrot's Sakura design, she is cute in the movies. She actually aged way better than Hinata, desu.
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>>153021385
What the fuck are you talking about, Sasori didn't lose to her. He decided to kill himself, just as he could have decided to kill her. She and Chiyo never had a say on the outcome of that fight
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>>153022482
>>153022614
Sasuke spent 70% of the time solo and doing shit on his own.
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>>153019471
>http://narutocouple.wikia.com/wiki/SasuSaku
>At the end of the novel, Sasuke receives a letter from Naruto that mentions Sakura remembering his childhood dream of joining the Konoha police force.
I thought Naruto said that. Not that it matters, anything that came after the manga is just pure fanfiction.
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>>153020259
What?

He knows his physical limitations as well as those under his command and works around them with planning, strategy, cunning and quick-thinking.

He's the most ninja of all the ninjas.
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>>153022955
They both looked like children in the movie.
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>>153022975
Sasori got pushed to his limit by Chiyo and Sakura.
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>>153022990
Most of Sasuke and Sakura's interactions were in part 1, before he left the village.
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>>153020399
Heartbreak will destroy you.
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>>153022955
Pierrot has a way better look for Sakura. She looks too manly when drawn by kishi.
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>>153006833
>Implying kurapika isn't a heroine.
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>>153023320
Not really enough. Naruto and Sakura spent way more time together than they did with their respective love interests.
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Hating Sakura is fine, whatever.
Anyone who says they wouldn't fuck her though is lying.
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>>153023640
>Not really enough. Naruto and Sakura spent way more time together than they did with their respective love interests.
Because they're teammates. And other than than missions, they're rarely seen together.

As adults and no longer teammates, they barely acknowledge each other's existence.
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>>153001964
>Name a better shounen heroine though?

Fuuko Kirisawa. Was a damn useful member of her team

there seriously needs to be more Recca fags out there than just me
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some of my favorite fights in the series where hers.
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>>153023781
They are adults after the 4th war and still hang around each other more. It only changed after they hook up with their respective love interests, which by then is just flimsy since they don't interact enough much with them.
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>>153024064
>hey are adults after the 4th war and still hang around each other more.
When? Unless you're using anime filler, we haven't seen enough of them as adults. If you're using that novels, that's wrong, because Sakura teases Naruto at one point of how he hangs out with Hinata a lot now. You aren't wrong about Sasuke though.
> It only changed after they hook up with their respective love interests, which by then is just flimsy since they don't interact enough much with them.
Naruto has been married with Hinata for years and they've had to kids. Along with all those family photos in their house, yes, they interact a lot.

SasuSaku I'll give you, since Sasuke is am absent faggot.
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>NaruSaku shippers still trying to score a victory in defeat
It's over, time to move on.
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>>153001964
So Dakki. Funny she's also the main antagonist.
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>>153010599

But without cow tits she is just pink ten ten.
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>>153007370
What a happy family!
Poor Sarada. She's living in a illusion
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>>153024559
Going by everything from canon to novels/gaiden. The point is SasuSaku scenes were greater in amount than NaruHina. That's despite the fact Sasuke and Sakura didn't spend that much time together. But Naruto and Sakura spend more time together than they did with their respective love interests before the two sealed the deal with Hinata and Sasuke respectively.

I guess to be fair, the series is shounen so we'll always see more plot, action, and nakama scenes than screentime focusing on romance that's left to the imagination of what they do when Naruto and HInata are supposedly alone and spending time together.
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>>153001071
pretty much considering she won't stop crying and being irrelevant to the plot. no seriously, if sakura wasn't there the outcome would be the exact same with naru/sasu relationship and naru/sasu never needed her help in battle.
>sausage i cry for you
>okay now i am tough for you i won't cry no more
>okay i cry dammit
>okay now i am mature really
>then i cry
then he knocks her up and doesn't take care of their child. sakura is so fucking stupid
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>>153001424
You mean heroine.
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Man I still remember the threads when Gaidan was out. Literally the best experience I've had in Naruto threads ever.
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>>153025284
>Going by everything from canon to novels/gaiden.
Which doesn't support it. Also, seriously, Gaiden? Going by Gaiden, Naruto and Sakura haven't talked in months at least and they definitely aren't having family dinners since Sarada barely knows Naruto.
>The point is SasuSaku scenes were greater in amount than NaruHina.
Define scenes. If you mean scenes when they were on the same panel or interacting, yes. As they're teammates. If you mean romantically, then no, SasuSaku has assworth of romantic moments.
>That's despite the fact Sasuke and Sakura didn't spend that much time together.
Again: same team. None of these characters really spent much time together outside of missions.
>But Naruto and Sakura spend more time together than they did with their respective love interests before the two sealed the deal with Hinata and Sasuke respectively.
Because Sasuke had left the village and Hinata was on a different team. This isn't rocket science. It doesn't fucking matter how much time they spent together if none of their time spent together were romantic and generally when they were interacting as teammates rather than friends spending quality time together.
>I guess to be fair, the series is shounen so we'll always see more plot, action, and nakama scenes than screentime focusing on romance
If you know this, what was the point of this entire conversation?
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>>153019288
>She already did something similar in Pain's arc. it's consistent with moments of bravery she sometimes shows since earlier parts of the manga, namely against Neji. The only real difference is she finally said it to Naruto that she wants to by him, that's something already know for a very long time.

You're saying that it's a developed version of her personal arc.

>The fake confession where she confess to Naruto for his own sake. You would only be helping my case.

Nope. "The ends justify the means" is the logic of the villains, not the heroes.

>But she didn't give up loving Sasuke, and that proved to be a great thing in the end.
How? She didn't affect him at all.

>It's the same for Naruto, non-romantically.
But Naruto affected Sasuke.

>But Sakura is still a girly girl and getting emotionally tearful, not a crybaby who just sits there, is something that happens naturally and consistently to her character.

But she does just sit there and cry.
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>>153026247
I remember some autist chimping out about how Sarada was ruined for him because of the reveal that Sakura was the mom all along.
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>>153022075
Despite saying that romance made his skin crawl Toriyama actually did a good job building up Gohan-Videl. But it's like Kishimoto saw his idol's comment about romance and figured it meant that he didn't even really need to bother trying.
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>>153006003
>The author just changed it midway into the manga's story
The Chunin Exams are not midway.
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>>153022597
Naruto is OKish actually.
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>>153026726
>Despite saying that romance made his skin crawl Toriyama actually did a good job building up Gohan-Videl.

He also created the most crack pairing ever to become canon, Trunks/Mai. And we thought Bulma/Vegeta was random.
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>>153026341
Gaiden means short stories. Was talking in general and not that Naruto Gaiden. Remember that the time Naruto and Sakura hooked up and after are excluded from discussion. Anyways, Sarada at her age doesn't know Naruto well, but that's expected and pretty normal. Young kids don't usually hang around your parent's best friends. Especially in Naruto's case who, much to Boruto's discontent, who barely comes home as it is.

Yes, scenes interacting, helping one another, and emotional exchanges. There are shipping scenes too, but I'm not even going to get into that.

Maybe, but the series is ridden with conflicts and wars. They always spend time together as a team and just as friends that we see. What we see is the reality we count most.

It matters to those who cares and sees it differently. It's not like Naruto and Hinata actually had more than a few scenes together that had some romantic gesture, and even then it was one-sided. Naruto didn't tune in and reciprocate until the movie.

Nothing really. Just expressing technical and amusing points regarding how their relationship was even more shallow to another shallow relationship. You're the one making this complicated than it needs to be.
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>>153014150
Jinchuriki only need a ton of chakra if you intend to keep them, she was being used as a bomb.
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>>153001964
The name another character guy got BTFO
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>>153022597
I'd say he's more than "okish" He does still look like his dad even if it's more of his mom in there. Naruto is handsome, he was just wasn't liked by girls because of the social stigma that most parents passed down to their kids in Konoha because he was a jinchuuriki.

That and because he was a asshat.
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>>153028905
I'd say that he looks a lot better in the manga than the realistic counterpart that Kishi made.

Pic related is obviously Sasuke's realistic counterpart.
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>>153029432
what the fuck are those eyes?

spoielr that shit nigga
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>>153029432
They actually look like they could be brothers.
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>>153022597
One, he was a fucking asshat as a kid. Just this dickish jokester.

Two, once he grew up in Shippuden, he did start getting people to like him , specially according to the movies.

Three, after he grew up, he became incredibly popular and handsome. The LAST movie made it clear that he was a late bloomer, and that he basically is incredibly popular and beloved by the end.

Basically having Aryan Poster Child Ninja Jesus as president who is ALSO your nation's greatest super soldier.

Dude probably doesnt drop down below 90% approval rating since he was ALSO smart enough to keep Shikamaru as his advisor.
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Regardless of how much anyone hates Sakura, it was ridiculous that Hinaya was the series' main character's love match considering she was in the manga practically never. Like there's maybe 10 chapters total where she actually appears and even less where she interacts with Naruto.

Kishimoto at some point clearly did mean to pair Sakura with Naruto and then he was too pussy and he threw in Hinata. There's numerous romantic scenes between Sakura and Naruto and a bunch of panels that match up between Naruto/Sakura and Naruto's parents.

It's like the last few chapters of the manga Sakura gets Down syndrome with no explanation and is just back to "ZOMG I LUV U SASUKE HAVE MY BABIEZ!" After not giving shot about him for hundreds of chapters.

That war arc ruined the manga. It was a sad rehash of every previous battle and character and then fucking Boruto and his fugly ass friends
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>>153029597
Sasuke's magic eyeballs?
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>>153029939
She's never not all SAUSEKEY KUN
well...outside of ME AM GREATEST HEAL NINJA EVER and being the puppet of that old broad from the sand village.
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>>153029935
>approval rating drops to 89%
>shikamaru orders a rerun of the documentary explaining how Naruto literally saved the world two decades ago
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>>153030036
You know what? I think in twenty years, shinobi kids wouldnt believe that shit. I mean Naruto LIKED Sarutobi, and never thought the old man was THAT strong until he grew older.

'President Naruto couldnt have been THAT strong!He's just some old guy!Fake News and Biased media."

Then some old guy cutting fish on the street goes "No, I saw him fight once, that guy can blow up mountains. Oh, and he can get stabbed and laugh it off.He energized an entire army with his own energy, making them into super soldiers, while simultaneously attacking in multiple fronts-simultaneously."

Geez, the fucking Ninja Army Arc DOES make Naruto seem like some ninja jesus.
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>>153029939
>Kishimoto at some point clearly did mean to pair Sakura with Naruto and then he was too pussy and he threw in Hinata.

He said he considered the idea, but decieded against it.

>There's numerous romantic scenes between Sakura and Naruto and a bunch of panels that match up between Naruto/Sakura and Naruto's parents.

Red herring. By that point he had already decided on the final pairings.

>It's like the last few chapters of the manga Sakura gets Down syndrome with no explanation and is just back to "ZOMG I LUV U SASUKE HAVE MY BABIEZ!" After not giving shot about him for hundreds of chapters.

Did you miss her fake confession? She never stopped loving him, as retarded as that is.
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>>153029948
I meant the left eye more specifically.
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>>153027622
>Gaiden means short stories.
There are no short stories showing them hanging out together.
>Remember that the time Naruto and Sakura hooked up and after are excluded from discussion.
No.
>Anyways, Sarada at her age doesn't know Naruto well, but that's expected and pretty normal. Young kids don't usually hang around your parent's best friends. Especially in Naruto's case who, much to Boruto's discontent, who barely comes home as it is.
The point being, if Sakura was such close friends with Naruto still, Sarada would at least be familiar with Naruto. Gaiden was literally the first time they even interacted besides a casual hello.
>Yes, scenes interacting, helping one another, and emotional exchanges.
As teammates and any interaction between them that wasn't shallow was when they were talking about Sasuke.
>There are shipping scenes too
Other than comedy, there hasn't been a single shipping scene between them.
>Just expressing technical and amusing points regarding how their relationship was even more shallow to another shallow relationship
Ironically, Naruto and Hinata's few interactions were far more meaningful and impactful to both of their development as characters than Naruto and Sakura's numerous panels of standing next to each other.
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>>153030768
>Yes, scenes interacting, helping one another, and emotional exchanges.
>There are shipping scenes too
Actually realized you meant SasuSaku here. Which, okay, fair enough. They were still ultimately interactions as teammates, not as friends and definitely not as a couple.
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>>153030768
Sakura and Naruto were never truly friends.They didnt hang out much, and even when they were Team 7 together, Naruto apparently was a bit of a loner, or hanged out with the boys.

The Last showed that he was still very much hanging out with Sakura once a while, but one thing the latest Naruto filler episodes show was that Naruto and the guys themselves are barely able to see each other, as even Shikamaru's team rarely hang out.

I suppose that after he starts fucking Hinata and discovers sex, he probably just got busy fucking- not to mention now he has to hang out with Hinata's family..

Can you IMAGINE the fucking madness of trying to reach out to -that- family?
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>>153030951
He is always shown hanging out with either Sakura or Konohamaru whenever there is down time in fillers.
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>I'm all about hating the weird kid and crushing on an asshole and being the smartest!
>oh fuck I'm a useless bitch
>better train
>now I'm a strong independent woman!
>no wait sasky fuck me I don't care if you're a vicious terrorist that tried to murder me, please be my deadbeat baby daddy

Does the author think women are only good for being obsessed with men
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>>153001071
yep
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>>153001071

>kept insisting herself onto sasuke
>sasuke clearly shows 0 interest
>be annoying as fuck
>poor lil o me
>makes orbiting beta cucks go whiteknight turbo mode
>feminism hur dur
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>>153030990
>filler
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>>153001071
>Does she deserve the hate?
Absolutely.

Also, from now on this thread is dying.
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>>153003953
This pretty much. Kishi admitted time and again that he can't write female characters.
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>>153006338
InoSaku should be it's own fetish.
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>>153001964
Hinata.


Cry me a river.
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>>153010702
don't forget she is so vapid and oblivious that she thought she could stop Naruto from chasing sake by saying she liked him over sasuke, THEN drugging her team.
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>>153007370
>So is the world really one landmass with few island chains?
>Interesting you should mention that. I've learned a lot about the world geographically in my years abroad & have found that-
>e-Excuse me, Sasuke-kun, I made some rice for you
>Do you mind, miss? My daughter and I are having a conversation
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>>153008108
Ain't no female Mexicans in Naruto-verse
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>>153007276
Ino was cononicaly the cutest girl in their promotion. Rewatch the first part if you don't bieleve it. BIELEEEVE IT!

You're the one lying to himself.
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>>153011866
>Not having huge collars
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