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Kizumonogatari III New PV

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inb4 stupid cat/crab fags who think this kiss actually happened
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>>152987545
>shows the cat kiss that didnt even really happen
>doesnt show rrrrgi kiss crab in the other seasons despite them being couple
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>>152987649
Shinbo is a Catfag
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>>152987649
who cares about them.

Hes kissed all the lolis and his imoutos which really matters, hopefully hell kiss kanbaru as well
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>>152987649
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>>152987661
I know. Great taste desu.
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>>152987661
Oishi directs Kizu
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This will be probably U.S. release trailer too.
Why didn't they make such a badass trailer before premiere? Stupid Shaft
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>that smile
>that wink

bat knows shes going to win him in the end.
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>>152987974
Looks like he knows it too.
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I am a catfag and this makes me very happy.
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>>152988127
They went all out.
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>>152987545
>that shot where she takes off her bra
Fuck. Just come out on BD already so I can marathon all of them.
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>>152988127
spoiler that dude
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>>152988179
Well he will rip off a skin from her face with his teeth.
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>>152988516
Crossover manga?
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>>152988540
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/02/02-1/gag-manga-explores-what-would-happen-if-nisioisin-characters-met
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>>152988127
Do Koyomi and Cat kiss in the LN? I don't remember that happening at all.
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>>152988611
No they didn't. It's all his imagination.
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That makes me sad. He has a lot of good girls and fuck them. Meanwhile I have nothing, not even a friend
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>>152988822
But you do have those sick dubs anon, so you've got something going for you at least
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>>152987545
>heads getting ripped off casually

These vampires sure are a durable bunch.
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>>152989086
IDC for dubs
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Parachutes
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Are we going to get a US release? I really want to complete my set the poster boards.
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>>152989531
Oh it's the blood sucking scene.
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>>152988822
>implying he actually fucks any of them but senjougahara
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>>152989590

Anon, but he walked her gently to her home
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>>152987545
but they never kissed in the book
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>>152989266
>you will never have this much fun
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>>152989779
They see me rollin'
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>>152987649
crabfags on suicide watch again except no one can watch them since that'll happen offscreen too
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>>152989795
Fake kiss is not better actually. It's all what Catfags can get.
Araragi always skips his kisses with Hitagi in the LNs. It's private for him.
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>>152989913
their entire relationship offscreen is all you crabfags can get too KEK
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>>152988516
>>152988570
>No medaka box
>No kumagawa
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>>152989967
> their entire relationship offscreen
Did you even watch the show? All major events were onscreen and Hitagi Rendezvous is coming.
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>>152990016
you're right i guess them kissing isn't enough of a major event to show but the fantasy one with cat is, really makes you think
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How many Kizu movies are there gonna be?
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>more shirtless Ragi
eagerly anticipating this
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>>152990079
This is the last one.
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>>152990079
this one's the final part
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>>152990068
> you're right i guess them kissing isn't enough of a major event to show
It's private for Araragi. He never describes the most intimate moments.
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>>152990068
You are reading way too much into this.

>>152990079
Three. This is the last.
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>>152989459
Sweet baby Jesus
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>>152987545
crab btfo
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>>152987649
Cat is the wife
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>>152990994
cat would make best wife out of all the girls desu
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>>152987545
IT'S
NOT
FAIR
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>>152991087
don't worry anon-kun, cat'll probably get someone better in the end anyways
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>>152991087
It's fair. She can blame only herself.
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Best girl won
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>>152991087
Anon, Hanekawa and Araragi love each other even it they might never get together.

You should know this already, it's one of the biggest canons in Monogatari.
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>>152991211
>Anon, Hanekawa and Araragi love each other even it they might never get together.
This makes me sad. Fuck you Nishio. Does cat really deserves all the shit she gets?
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>>152987545
Being crab is literally worthless, as expected of that rotten cunt deflowered by Kaiki.
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>>152991321
Hanekawa gets no shits at all. She's loved and lives her life fully.
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>>152991119
outer heaven end
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>>152988127
TONGUE ACTION ????
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>>152987545
When is SHAFT going to stop playing safe and stop over exploiting these series?
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>>152989459
How fucking gigantic are they ??
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>>152989913
Oh God the crabfags salt is glorious. As expected of worst girl.
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>>152991725
Crab won
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God damned this fucked earth what sacrifice to I need to make to be between Kiss-shot's acerolas.
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They finally kissed!

It's funny cuz she liked him too and he chose senjoh over her and it got to her. Dang. Drama.
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>>152991748
the cuckqueen bowl
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>all these anons saying "OMG THEY REALLY KISSED"
>actually watched the movie and knows what's the context

smirks
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Crab won the bowl since 2009, it's time to let go catfags is not healthy.
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>>152992907
Some catfags still think that Araragi loves Cat. Even after Musubi.
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Okay but when is the next season
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>>152993241
Summer or Fall maybe?
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>>152993258
wow that soon?
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>>152993477
Well it's been 2 years since Owari.
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I just finished nisemonogatari

What's the difference between Nekomonogatari and Kizu? It seems like they both take place during the same time.
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>>152993574
No. Kizu before Neko Kuro.
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>>152993574
what an absurd question
how fucking simple would it be to find a timeline of the series for yourself, yet you waste your time asking here instead
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>>152987545
not really a lot of talking going on, kinda boaring. a-a-a-a a 6, a 6.
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Bat is actually a bat.
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>>152991211
They don't love each other, Araragi lusts after her. He holds no initial feelings of love only to jam his cock between those bombastic breasts.
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>>152993574
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>>152993810
i have a bad feeling about this image
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>>152993799
You know, in the LN after he "admits" all he feels is lust for Hanekawa, he's choking back tears. Shame the anime cut it.
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>>152993894
And what does it mean?
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>>152993912
Obviously it means he must only feel lust for her. Even though Meme sees right through that and mentions it, it's lust, just lust.
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>>152992999
Araragi loves Hanekawa anon, and very likely until the day he dies.
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>>152993958
>>152993894
It means he's has a canon inferiority complex despite her feelings for Hanekawa, for the Nth time.
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>>152993958
I mean if it wasn't just lust why did he do nothing? He didn't even think about her when Crab confessed. Like "Sorry Senjougahara but I have feelings for Hanekawa".
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>>152994076
>what is inferiority complex
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>>152994161
Yeah what is it?
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>>152994024
I was being sarcastic anon-kun. Viewers/readers should know about the whole inferiority complex they both have by now.
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>>152994178
Not sure if crabfag baiting or you really don't know. Araragi placed Hanekawa in such a high position above him, due to her being someone he admires, and Hanekawa did the same. They both stuck each other up on pedestals so far up that they wouldn't ever be able to reach each other.
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>>152994209
And where is love here?
She loves him for sure.
He doesn't love her. Gahara is the first girl he ever really loved. His own words. He proved it in Tsubasa Cat and Tsubasa Tiger. Anything else is your head canon.
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>>152994209
>I haven't seen Nekomonogatari Black - the post
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>>152990994
For Araragi himself, Crab or Monkey or Snail are probably the best fits for the guy honestly. I'm saying that irrespective of what I personally think of them. The types of lives Araragi and Cat want to live are way too different to each other, shit wouldn't work.
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This show needs more of best girl
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> crab
> cat
Ka-ka!
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>>152994555
kaikimonogatari when
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>>152994555
Nah, the Specialists are only good because they show up infrequently. They dump even more exposition than the usual characters do so they'd get annoying after a while.

Maybe giving Kagenui another arc which digs into her a character a bit more would be nice though.
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>>152994625
>he wouldn't want a spinoff about the specialists
pretty lame desu
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>>152994555
He is the biggest cuck. Cucked hard by Tooe. Severus Snape level.
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>>152994568
Insert your own comment here:
>"Hey kid, wanna SS?"
>"Hey kid, wanna see a dead body?"
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>>152994662
He's probably going to die alone and a virgin, someone please love this bitter man.
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God, watching Bake and Kizu has really made how fucking ugly S2 onwards is stand out even more than before.

Nise and Neko still looked decent but somewhere along the way it feels like Shaft slashed the budget and Shinbo fired whoever the fuck it was on the staff that knew how to do the backgrounds.
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>>152994718
Backgrounds were the only thing that still looked consistently good in S2.
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>>152994697
She is a pure cake
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>>152994662
>Kaiki
>cuck
Tooe had a boyfriend around the same time Kaiki had a girlfriend, so there's no cucking involved.
Unless he lied about that too

>>152994717
Also, what part of "Money can buy everything, even people and hearts." didn't you understand?
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>>152991211
They used to love eachother. The current LN indicates Cat has moved on and her feelings are platonic, and that Araragi has stopped his playing around with other girls.

It's a shame though. Cat could have won at any point before Mayoi Snail just by asking him out.
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>>152994753
> taking care of other man's daughter
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>>152994735
I disagree. A lot of them were ugly as fuck compared to earlier seasons, I'd say they looked good maybe half the time at best.

I won't even touch the changes made to the way characters were drawn since that's so inconsistent that I'd have to break it down arc by arc to highlight where it was done badly.
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>>152994785
>watching over a friend's daughter
Sound less retarded when you point out how it actually is, doesn't it?
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>>152994753
Tooe was the love of his life, she married someone and Kaiki became eternally grumpy about it and looks afer her daughter from afar. That's his entire backstory.

Apparantly Tooe passes a message onto Kanbaru in Suruga Bonehead after the latter brings him up, telling her to tell him to stop being an idiot and move on with his life already, but I dunno if that's true or not.
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>>152994803
She wasn't just friend. He loves her.
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>>152994806
I wonder how different Kaiki would be if he didn't get cucked and scored.
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>>152994873
Probably a paler version of Oshino
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>>152994753
>Also, what part of "Money can buy everything, even people and hearts." didn't you understand?
He lied about that. He just deliberately tried to avoid unreplaceable things. He tried to make sure he only has what money could buy, because then he could never lose them. If you can replace them then they can never truly be lost.

But he still hold onto Tooe in his heart. And he could never let it go.
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>A scene to surpass the toothbrush.
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>>152995473
>>152991211
>>152991208
>>152989795
>>152989459
>>152988127
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>You have Cat lusting after you endlessly
>You have Bat
>You even have Monkey if you ever want to get needlessly kinky

>but you pick a basic bitch
I just don't get RRRG
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>>152996400
Basic Nisio tactics : never give the audience what they want.
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>>152991134
Honestly the fight is so pointless, both can not die.
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>>152991774
>Based Araragi
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>>152996400
Koyomi & Hanekawa are the most beta alphas ever
I actually still don't understand his relationship with Shinobu at all, the more Nisio writes about it the more confusing it gets
As well as he gets on with Kanbaru, he only met her at all due to being Gahara's boyfriend. You can take some solace in the fact that he went on a date with her before he did with his girlfriend and generally spends more time with her than he does with Gahara anyway (atleast until he moved out of town for uni), I guess?

Koyomi & Gahara are a good match for each other to be honest.
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>>152992907
>>152992999
They do "love" each other but it's not a romantic love (anymore). It's not just lust like what Araragi tells himself at the end of Neko Shiro and it's not really familial-type love either, it's just some sort of weird unhealthy obsession that they have with each other.
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>>152994740
She heals my heart
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>>152990000
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>>152987739
But kanbaru is a lesbian!
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When it comes to who Araragi actually loves, it's Shinobu.
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>>152987545
fuck you nisio you fucking faggot
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>>152988516
Could be cool seeing rararagi and Kyoko Okitegami solving mysteries together or something.
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>>152987739
Pic related is the closest to any willing intimate contact on Koyomi's part that she'll ever get, she says so herself too.
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>>152994753
>incapable of calling kanbaru by her name because it's the name of the man who cucked him

Literally a fucking cuck.
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>>152996597
I've always seen Shinobu's relationship with him as a interdependent one, they going to be together with each other forever and can't stand to lose each other but it's not because of love more because they owe each other too much.
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>>152997716
wew
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>>152997731
>but it's not because of love more because they owe each other too much.
This new
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>>152996597
>Koyomi & Hanekawa are the most beta alphas ever
>I actually still don't understand his relationship with Shinobu at all, the more Nisio writes about it the more confusing it gets
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The sad thing is that no matter who won rrrgbowl - epilogue just shat on the whole series.
Seriously. How could anyone be such a hack?
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>>152998003
>retard who read the fake spoilers

epilogue was amazing
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>>152997629
I think it's a 4-koma, so I wouldn't expect any actual plot.
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>>152996597

Hanekawa was always the alpha though, Araragi as just thick. Bake never told the audience she forced him to be her vice president to spent as much time with him as possible, and in Tsubasa Song, he says he wants to be manly enough to take charge on a date like Hanekawa does there. Literally calls her manly.

She did pretty much everything except holding him down, saying he's hers, and then ravishing him. And even if she did that now, he'd totally let her, hell, his girlfriend wants to.
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>>152998139
I was amazed at how retarded and literally nothing it was, yeah.
How do you even put these two together.
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>>152987545
Guys... Araragi IS an unreliable narrator.
Every Monogatari story is told in first person by unreliable narrators, including Araragi.
Is there a chance that Araragi MAY have implied kissing Hanekawa in the LN, but didn't want to mention it since he was telling the story to the reader AFTER he got with Senjougahara in Bakemonogatari?
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>>152998153
>Hanekawa was always the alpha though
She has similar problems to Araragi in that she struggles to just be honest with herself and be frank, she had several arcs revolving around that even. Back in Bake she knew that Araragi didn't think of her as his girlfriend even if the rest of the class did and said nothing about it.
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>>152998293
>I was amazed at how retarded and literally nothing it was
Nisio's M.O in a nutshell to be honest.
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>>152993810
>Spoonfeeding
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>>152998471

The issue is, and other characters agree, is that Araragi was flat out being as purposefully oblivious because of his issues and idolatry.

The Tsubasa Cat commentaries pointed out that he was being absolutely retarded. While it's true that Hanekawa's issue was not flat out saying she loved him, after all they went through, Araragi would be terminally retarded to think he meant nothing to her, or that she would do the same for anyone. The advice she gives him points out that she herself thinks that for that you shouldn't give affection on that level to just anyone.

For fucks sake, people call her a sociopath in Kizu, but she literally tells him, multiple times, I am not a saint, I do what I do because I feel like it. She is blunt as fuck and he is dense as bedrock.
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>>152998674
>I am not a saint, I do what I do because I feel like it
but that's what a saint would say
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>>152994649
Now i want the prequel of how the fuck they made a shikinami out of a 100 years old corpse.
Like "Guys, I have this really cool idea for club activities. Go grab your shovel"

>>152994625
This. This so much. Except for Kaiki most specialist drop a lot of exposition, special mention to the one who knows everything to the point she both predicted and caused Ougi months before she actually appeared

>>152994718
They rushed the series a lot in the S2, they wanted to get the Final Season fast or something, also a lot of staff actually went out of Shaft after Bake and most animators disappeared into Kizu after Neko Kuro.
Still I don't know what the fuck happened between Neko and S2. It's still most of the staff and the same director from Nise Neko
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>>152998674
>She is blunt as fuck and he is dense as bedrock.
Araragi's a dense fucker but you're downplaying Cat's part in her failing here as well
>from the beginning she understood that their relationship wasn't quite where she wanted it be
>knows that Araragi would pretty much listen to whatever she says
>saw how he reacts to a chick just straight up asking him out, instead of doing the same she continues to just drag her heels around
>even tries to give him advice on his relationship with that girl (in Nadeko Snake), all while continuing to not say anything about her feelings until she snaps later on

I don't think it's even a matter of being blunt or whatever, it's just that both Araragi and Cat are extremely/dangerously reactionary (to everything), neither really take the initiative on things (which is what Crab did). Both Araragi and Cat are supposed to come off as being sorta fucked in the head even now, I think.
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>>152998153
>Hanekawa was always the alpha
>she forced him to be her vice president
>She did pretty much everything

>she never confess in months
>crab won over her in a couple of days
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>>152998674
why are you ignoring hanekawa's own self hatred for herself?
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Bull's neck
Fucking Shaft
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>>152997731
>muh best girl

Why are Kaiki faggots so deluded? He's an omega faggot who is still butthurt 20 years later after getting cucked. That's like the lowest form of man one can aspire to become. His "girlfriend" probably cucked him hard because he couldn't even get it up anymore.
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>>152999610
Meant for this >>152994753
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>>152994768
Apparently in Musubi, Big Boss Hanekawa expressed interest in Koyomi joining her. Whereas Koyomi still thinks that he's inconsequential to Hanekawa and thought that she was there to get her panties back (also he didn't think that it was even Hanekawa but a body double working for her or some shit)
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>>152997692
which ep of which series is that? there is so much of gatari crap its impossible to sort out through.
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>>152998775
neko is 4 ep ova while ss is 26 tv ep
not really hard to figure on what happened there lol
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>>152999111
>that lack of shading
>3D sword
I know the movie will probably have lots of impressive fight scenes, but Kizu sure looks cheap sometimes.
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>>152993726
Yes we know this.
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>>152987545
What the FUCK?
I'm flipping through my Kizu copy right now. THERE IS NO MENTION OF THIS

WHAT THE FUCK IS SHAFT DOING
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>>153000373
It's in his head.
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>>153000373
Araragi's imagination
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>>153000019
Yes, they do this. Animate really short scenes badly, because it's not something that's noticed really fast.

But scenes like this they did amazing (pic related) fits the mood on the rooftop.
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>>153000484
Is it /ss/ if the boy is 17?
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>>153000601
they are vampires, human law's don't apply to them
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>>153000601
she's like 600 so yes
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>>153000638
I'm talking about the concept here. Kiss-shot is a 600 year old 27 year old, and ragi is just 17.
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>>153000484
>Kiss-Shot will never get close to you like this.
Keep losing reasons to live
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>>152987974
She's the only one going to live long enough.
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>>153000703
No wonder why he didn't let her die.
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How do theaterfags do it? Watching this shit in a theater around other people would be awkward as hell for me and I don't think I would be able to contain my raging boner at all these lewd.
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>>152997692
Meshi agare
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>>153000864
They're the sort of people who would willingly attend an "anime club". They're so far-gone that decorum is out the window. I've seen posts from people who attended and they said that the whole crowd was shouting out crap and memeing.
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>>153000666
thanks Satan
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>>153000920
>>153000864
Really? I've seen them in Chicago, and honestly, there's a lot more older people than what I expected that came themselves. Only one or two spergs where there, and everyone else seemed like normal everyday people
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>>153001058
>Only one or two spergs where there
So only you and some other sperg?
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>>153001116
your parents were there too. your mother was sucking my cock while your father watched
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>>153001159
That's three spergs. Why did your story suddenly change?
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>>153001116
>implying
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Has the second movie been subbed yet? I haven't really been keeping up with the news recently
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>>153001384
It was subbed like 3 days after it came out you cuck.
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>>152999845
Owarimonogatari, during Shinobu Mail
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>>153000019
Oishi just really loves his mixed media shit, man.
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>>152987545
>>152987545
why are you guys getting excited for a PV of this?

I watched kizu I last year in cinema, and two weeks ago i watched Kizu II and Kizu III.

anyone who hasn't watched kizu III at this point isn't really an anime or monogatari fan and should just fuck off to reddit or MAL.
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>>153001439
It hasn't even aired in America you fucking retard.
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>>153001460
top kek murricucks BTFO again

go watch your dragon ball reruns
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I don't understand how did Nisio manage to create so many perfect girls. I love Crab and Bat, but I can understand monkeyfags and catfags. Bat isn't just a cute loli but she is also a great character, unique and deep. I mean when I see Bat I believe that she is the most beautiful and the most purest woman in the world as plot says. Nisio is something else.
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>>153001058
I only went as far as seeing Shin Godzilla in my life so far. My experience for that was mostly normal but there was a group of idiots in the back who kept laughing at every fucking thing and they were obviously anime fans by their memes and talk of Anno and Evangelion. Can't imagine how an actual anime film would be like.
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>>153001598
Did he though, Vofan + Shaft did most of the character design with how they look and sound.
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>a.pomf
Goddamnit, i hate this.
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>>153001439
Fucking faggots. It's not fair. Trump said he would make anime real and we can't even get Kizu 3 before the rest of the world.
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>>153001669
Monogatari characters are great even in the books.
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As someone who has seen Kizu III already.

The fight was so fucking absurd and goofy. It did quite the good job of showing the absurdity of a fight between two invencible people.

Also dat Kou Yoshinari cut.
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>>152987545
>cat still loses
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>>153001936
Was Kou's work longer than what he did in the first film?
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>>153001890
I dont know how to read japanese unfortunately.
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>>152987545
Truly the OTP of Monogatari
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>>153001598
>liking crab
We pity you, anon.
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>>153002291
You forgot pic
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>>153002316
cat and monkey like her
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Where did those flowers come from
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>>153002346
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>>152998003

can someone explain this?
what epilogue?
why is it shit?
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>>153002841
the musubimonogatari epilogue i'd assume
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>>153002841
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>>152998003
>>153002908
It's literally nothing.
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>>152995552
that was very obviously not true
oshino knew it as well
you're in denial man, get over it and accept that arararagi-san lusts for and wants to be with Hanekawa, aka best girl, but he has an inferiority complex
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>>153002750
She is not deflowered.
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>>153002995
I see
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>>153002967
He wants to live with Hitagi
He wants to die with Shinobu
No room for Hanekawa
Stop it already
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>>153002539
Crab is a walking pityfest.
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>>153003071
Sounds like a kill marry fuck predicament.

Kill shinobu to die, marry Hitagi because best girl, fuck Hane for lust
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>>153003071
Nice headcanon.

>>153002967
Oshino was on point tbqh.
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>>153003047
Feathers not flowers actually
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>>153002908

so where's the problem with it? I haven't keep track of the latest VNs but am genuinely interested
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>>153003151
Hanekawa is for marry and fuck, anon. Shinobu to kill and die.
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>>153003171
Headanon? Just Araragi's words.
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>>153003203
There is no problem. Here is a full summry if you want to know more
http://pastebin.com/efb0Gcsu
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>>153002841
Crab threatened to kill herself if Araragi dumps her; and not in a cute way: bloody eyes, snot, and wrist slitting.
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>>153002967
>>153003071
He was lying (I dunno why people assume that he doesn't until Ougi came along and spelled it out for everybody how dishonest he is with himself all the time) but it's a non-factor, he's largely moved on with his life now and has settled down with Crab/Bat/Bee already.
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>>152987545
>muh cat
>muh crab

he even kissed bird, don't get your panties in a bunch. Him kissing someone to find out if he "loves" them is common practice.
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>>153002064
Good thing they're getting translated then
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>>153003318
>http://pastebin.com/efb0Gcsu
>I want to correct at least one thing: it was Oikura who threatened to kill herself. She used it as a threat to try to get Araragi and Senjougahara to get back together. It did help to get those two to talk, but the threat didn't directly work on Senjougahara.
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>>152987545

This out of context picture is going to work wonders for shitposting until Kizu 3 BD comes out.
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>>153003721
That part is even translated, so that overreaction won't happen again. Senjougahara overreacted but within reasonable limits, and Sodachi is a bro.
http://mirroredtranslations.tumblr.com/post/156332412867/tsudzura-human-chapter-3
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>>153003151
>Kill shinobu to die, marry Hitagi because best girl, fuck Hane for lust
>Marry Hitagi
>Best girl
You can only have one anon.
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>>153003206
>Shinobu to kill and die
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>>153002063
Yes, way longer.

You can see a small part of it in the PV.
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>>152997462
The wings look awesome.
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>>153003889
If that's your choice then that's fine.
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Instead of making everyone happy, he made everyone unhappy.

What a meme.
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>>153002117
You know how to get rid of all refugees.

Show them the German DUB of Hitagi Crab, which was part of the Kizu screening.

Though all voices except Senjougahara weren't even that bad
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>>153004209
Yeah. Miserable persons. They hate every moment of their lives after Kizu.
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>>153003888
I think he means that Araragi wants to die together with Shinobu, wich he does.
>Kill shinobu to die
This makes it sound like he wants to kill her. And I have hope that no one, even on /a/ is that delusional.
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>>153004299
Everything ended in a tragedy for everyone involved.
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>>153004299
Araragi's thought:
>I want to lick her sugary lips.
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>>153003693
Just a quick 10 years after being published in nihongo.
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>>153004338
Yeah and they are all unhappy everyday.
>Bond was broken
>Araragi human
>Shinobu got her powers back.
>Could turn Shinonu into a god
>That would get rid of the problems that Shinobu has to eat a human every month
>As a god she would also never be hunted down again.
>Both refuse
>Recreate the bond
Unhappy
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can't fucking wait this is a batfags dream
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>>152987545
They are so perfect.
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>>153003888
If you kill Shinobu, you die.
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>>153004878
It's more like, if you kill Shinobu, you will kill yourself since you vowd to her that you would live to the day she lived and day on the day she died.
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>pv 3 is out
>there are STILL no decent english subs for Kizu 2
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is shinobu going to ride araragi's araragi?
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>>152994568
Her behaviour makes sense, since she was really giddy that she was back in her fully powered form.
>So she could die and turn him back human, correcting her mistake
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>>153004481
But as a god she spawns the nothing thing and then everything's fucked.
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>>152995552
When did this happen? I dont recognize it
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>>153004987
EFL gets rekt
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>>153005221
Have you even read Owari?
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>>153005399

yeah i've seen most of it raw but i'd like to understand what they're saying
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>>153005450
You should learn italian, perfect subs came out weeks ago
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>>153005576
Its funny that learning japanese just isnt realistic compared to learning italian for subs.
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Is there a full version of track playing in pv?
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BD release when?
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>>153006586
Kizu 2 OST track #18
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>>153006600
June probably.
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>>153006634
Thanks
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As a Catfag, this trilogy is my favourite thing to happen to this series.
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>>153006848
Good taste, anon.
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Fuck Oishi with his fucking Cat
He did cut off Kissshot from her own story. And replaced her with slutty annoying Cat.
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>>152999610
It's called love, faggot. Kaiki was genuinely and extremely in love with Tooe, and even though a big part of why he's so bitter is because of being cucked, I think a lot of it has to do with not being able to cope with her sudden death as well. If she was still alive, it'd hurt for him to see her with that other man of course, but he'd probably have a tad more peace of mind knowing that at the very least she's still there and can be reached. Now it's all over though, she's completely gone not just in a romantic sense from him but physically as well with being dead. Money's the coping mechanism he uses to deal with loss.
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>subs never
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Kizu is a very bad adaptation. Good movie and all but in terms of adaptation it's just horrible.
Best book but worst adaptation.
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>>153007323
Why though.
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>>153007150
sounds like what a beta faggot would do. kill yourself cuck
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>>152988296
oh anon, same dream here.
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>>153007150
>a woman who I "loved" and never had died so I would proceed to act like a fucking edgy fag conning children for the rest of my life

He's overrated garbage.
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>>153007442
No monologues
Not enough dialogues
No Kissshot
Too much SHAFT
Sometimes looks very cheap
Hanekawa everywhere
It feels like a story about Hanekawa's wet pussy. But it is about Kissshot and Araragi. About what they did to each other and why. About what they felt.
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>>153006989
Are you retarded? He's following the story's structure described in the book. Kissshot hasn't had a single scene cut.
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>>153007323
>>153007790
way too weak
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>>153007790
>No monologues
That's a good thing. I prefer the "Show, don't tell" narrative.
>Not enough dialogues
Again, better to show than tell. If you're talking about how they had to cut down some of the dialogue from the book, that's simply because it'd suffer from pacing issues and make it too long winded. Remember how fucking painful Katanagatari was and how it was nothing but words upon words upon words with barely anything animated? Fuck that shit.
>No Kissshot
Are you retarded?
>Too much SHAFT
Yep, you're retarded.
>Sometimes looks very cheap
Wow, you're REALLY retarded.
>Hanekawa everywhere
Hanekawa's awesome. Fuck you.
>It feels like a story about Hanekawa's wet pussy. But it is about Kissshot and Araragi. About what they did to each other and why. About what they felt.
Pic related.
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>>153007693
I don't know, I think he serves as a good example as to what happens when you don't/can't let go of things. Some people turn to alcohol, drugs, in his case it's money, to deal with this. That's where the mistake lies. People try hard to drown the problem out with all those distractions instead of working on gradually moving on. I think that's also why they show Kaiki interacting a lot with kids/the main cast, because he's just as childish and flawed as them when it comes to that. Disliking him is definitely fine though, he wasn't meant to be a pure character with no flaws to be loved completely just like some of the other characters (Snake is a big example of this).
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>>152990000
Why is Kumagawa's life filled with such suffering
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>>153008054
>ywn grab those big fat bat anything
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>>153005221
Not at all. She did before because she didn't actually become a god and only pretended to be one.
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>>153009148
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>>152987545
He can't keep getting away with it!
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>>152987545
OTP of the year, every year.
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>>153009375
>implying stanza=essay
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>>153009148
Don't forget that you won't lay your hands on those slim bat ribs or collarbones.
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>>152993912
He's beating himself up and trying to come up with reasons why he doesn't deserve Hanekawa, when in reality, deep down he DOES love her.
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>>152987545
OK, am I the only one here going back and rereading the shed scene in the LN to find any implication that Araragi kissed Cat?
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>>153010758
>deep down he DOES love her
He did, I dunno if you can even call it love anymore though. At this point the extreme obsession he and Hanekawa have for each just straight up doesn't seem normal.
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>>152987545
Is Crab officially cucked?
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>>153007323
This is bait.
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>>152995552
He was referring to Black Hanekawa in this scene. Not Hanekawa herself.
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>>153010844
>I dunno if you can even call it love anymore though.
Why's that?
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>>153010857
One of the first things she does as his girlfriend was telling him to go on a date with Kanbaru, you tell me.
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>>153010844
Crab's his wife
Bat's his soulmate
Cat's his goddess
and Snail's for ghost blowjobs
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>>153010857
Araragia and Crab cucked each other.
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>>153010857
Kizu is before they even started talking. Since they got together she kissed, saw naked, was very intimate and even lived together with other girls without her knowing.
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Post moar of Cat /a/
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>>153011376
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>>153011434
source mah dear nigga
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>>153011434
God, Araragi really misses out on fucking her. Actually it wouldn't be just fucking her, it'd be making sweet, sweet love. She'd probably have happy tears streaming down her cute features and a delicate hand gripping onto his tightly as he made the first move. It'd hurt, but she'd want him to continue because it's him, it's Araragi, and she wants him to have all of her. She'd let out little mewls that'd be drowned out in her own ears by the sound of her heart pounding so goddamn fast. Nails clawing all over his back like the cat she is as she pulls him in closer, wew.
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>>153010974
Continued...

Monkey's his ladybro
Snake's his stalker
Bee and Phoenix are his concubines
Doll's his onahole
Math's his crazy ex
Dark's himself
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>>153012186
She is fat
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>>153012186
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>>153011376
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>ours is the only timeline in which Araragi is dating worstgirl
Oh what was teased and could have been...
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>>153012277
At least her big fat cat tats are bigger than small crab tats.
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>>153011984
it's recently being scanned
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>>153012317
Rewatch Kabuki
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>>153012335
crab also has a nice rack. just not as big as bat or cat
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>>153012335
Average sized titties are the best
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>>153012186
All that sweaty, soft, useless flesh enveloping your chest as she presses against you
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I like how bats superior forms have artificially limited screentime in this series so she won't btfo the other girls
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>>153012497
Owari Dereshot is my favorite
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Any updates on subs for part 2?
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>>152987545
Link isn't working for me. Can anyone reup it somewhere else?
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>>153012186
>he never woke up to see this beautiful face watching him sleep

he never stops fucking up, does he?
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>>153012749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQHEoMXtnNU
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>>153012186
fucking shit araragi what the fuck are you doing?
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>>153012781
>he'll never wake up with his head on her lap and her fingers gently running through his hair as she wishes him a good morning with the sweetest smile
Goddammit I'll take this cat under my wing if he won't.
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> catfags wet dreams
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>>153012794
That video is blocked in the US and my youtube unblocker isn't helping.
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>>153013209
I guess the uploader randomly bans countries he hates that day. This one works fine from Finland, previous pv was banned here too.
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>>153013209
search it in google, there is a twitter link
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>>153013209
https://twitter.com/pKjd/status/827364974666276865
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>>153012317
Snail's never really been in the bowl, she's a kooky banter partner for the guy outside of it all. Just spending time with shuraragi is enough for her.
http://imgur.com/gallery/b3GmE
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>>153013524
Finally a working link. Thanks anon.
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>>153013623
She loves him
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>>153013716
Yeah but she's outside of the "Crab or Bat or Cat" thing that everyone goes on about, contrary to what that anon was implying
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>>153012217
Poor fucker can't even masturbate quietly, has to conjure an apparation for that
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>>153012975
>she will never wake up in his arms while he is still asleep and realize that her awful childhood is made up for tenfold everyday she spends with the man she loves

fuck him, I'm sad for her
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>>153013524
i got a fucking boner, i must fap!
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>>153013814
Robocleaner on that picture

KIMOCHI
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>>153013783
Cat is also outside since Neko Kuro.
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>>153013623
>"Though she did not find the home that she was looking for, the snail found a family"
Cute. Too bad she got sent to hell 3 months later. Snail cow roadkill loli has it rough.
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>>153013814
Don't do this to me, anon. It hurts. ;_;
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>>153014047
Because Nisio realized his mistake after he wrote Kizu after Bake which is why he continues to keep most of Crab and Arararagi-san's relationship offscreen.
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>>153005221
She once acted ad a god and that brought the darkness after her, but shen she consumes that paper which turned nadeko into a god, Shinobu will be a real goddess. That way the darkneas won't follow her.

But Araragi did not want that for her, not because she would be a bad god or anything, but out of pure selfish reasoning. Her becoming a god would mean that Araragi would stay human and she would live at the shrine as a god and not anymore as a vampire.

But you know, fuck that let's stay together "unhappily" Araragi is a tsundere.
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>>153009148
I can not fucking wait to see the best stupid fight between Araragi and Kiss-Shot. They added scenes and extended the fight but kept the whole stupidity of it.
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>>153009929
Don't worry she will touch yours.
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>>153014126
I get the feeling that it's more that he isn't sure what to write for them. Their big thing in Musubi is that they're a shittier version of Ross & Rachel from Friends now, that pretty much says it all.
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>>153014126
Then why the fuck does Araragi and Senjougahara's relationship have to be permanent?

They've already broken up THREE TIMES, and get back together for a fourth, which will probably lead to ANOTHER breakup.

I love Crab, but shouldn't it be obvious that Araragi and Senjougahara just AREN'T compatible?

I can understand that they want to try to make it work, but their relationship JUST CAN'T WORK.

Araragi and Hanekawa would be happiest and much better off with each other.

Araragi knows it, Senjougahara knows it, fucking Nisioisin knows it.

So why hasn't Nisio made it happen yet?
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I just want to make her happy.
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>>153014126
> he continues to keep most of Crab and Arararagi-san's relationship offscreen.
What? First contact, confession, home tutoring, date, walk me home gently, phone calls, texts, another date. Fucking catfag.
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>>152987649
>>152987739
This is why I dropped this shitty anime.
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>>153014428
This. You captured my thoughts perfectly on their relationship - it's dysfunctional and ultimately, dysfunctional aspects in any type of relationship (friends, lovers, etc.) don't last, frankly. Them getting together in the beginning felt a tad implied as being forced, but now it's obvious. When she has better chemistry with the rest of the cast than she has with her own boyfriend, that alone should raise some flags.
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>>153014428
>Araragi and Hanekawa would be happiest and much better off with each other.
I dunno. Forget about your thoughts on Senjou for the moment here. Hanekawa wants to travel the world being a weird peace-loving Big Boss-type chick. Koyomi wants to live a comparitively laidback life, he has an affinity for helping people too but it's completely different to what Hanekawa's doing. They just don't seem that compatible with each other.

Would like to see their conversion in the recent LN translated though. Apparantly Hanekawa asked Koyomi to go with her, obviously he didn't accept but it'd be interesting to know what his response was.
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>>153014428
> but their relationship JUST CAN'T WORK.
But it works. For 5 years. The first two breakups weren't even serious.
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>>153014480
Not him, but he did use the keyword "most" for Araragi and Crab's relationship, which IS true.

The point is that Senjougahara hasn't been the lead heroine in the story since Nisemonogatari.

She's been relegated to being more of a supporting or minor character in most of the stories.

Meanwhile, Hanekawa has frequently been Araragi's sidekick in many of the stories, which has caused their character dynamic to develop more and more with each story.

Araragi and Senjougahara's character dynamic has just been an on again-off again relationship.
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>>153014428
Hanekawa isn't any better for him than Senjougahara. He'd honestly be better off with Kanbaru. At least a relationship with her would be stable.

>>153014822
Hanekawa usually explains the answer at the end rather than standing alongside him. Then she spent 5 years doing her own thing and Araragi just wants to be over her.
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>>153014635
If that's the only reason why then that honestly is a really shitty reason for dropping a series. Contrary to /a/'s over-exaggerations their relationship is pretty much always there and noted in the background too. Which is what their relationship has always been like, even back in Bake. The majority of Bake was not about Araragi and Gahara interacting, it was weird oddity shit with one or two parts with his relationship at the forefront and the rest of it being in the background.

Given that the weird oddity shit is infinitely more interesting there's not much wrong with that either. You guys are desperately wishing that the series was a cliche shoujo instead for some reason.
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>>153014668
Well yeah, they do have completely different personalities and aspirations, but they still have great chemistry between each other nonetheless.
Haven't you heard the saying "opposites attract"?
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>>153013623
>http://imgur.com/gallery/b3GmE
Shit nigga that was cute. Mayoi Hell can't come soon enough.
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>>153014714
>The first two breakups weren't even serious.
Breakups ARE serious. They went from passionately consummating their love under the starlit sky to "Lets call it off". THREE TIMES.

When you break up after a serious intimate moment like that, it's a BIG FUCKING DEAL for your relationship.
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Why is Redditgahara the most hated girl here on /a/ while the shitty lolis are the most loved ones? You always complain about Nips having shit taste but you're not much better than them.
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>>153014469
She is a happy virging surrounded with cats in a single persons flat.
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>>153015077
Not him but this is fiction, real life rules do not necessarily apply.
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>>153014933
There's an entire arc following the two going on a date right after where the Owari anime stopped too.
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>>153015094

it's almost like 4chan is a contrarian shithole
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>>153015106
She pays men to fuck.
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>>153014822
Monogatari's main focus isn't romance. It's supernatural shit. Hitagi has nothing to do with supernatural since Suruga Monkey. What are you want from Nisio? Sex scenes or something?
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>20 mins longer than the other films
>Bat rooftop scene is going to be 20+ mins
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>>153014913
Well I disagree. I love Crab, but he and Hanekawa really would be best together.
As for Kanbaru, they're kinda more like best friends if anything. They don't see each other that way.
>Hanekawa usually explains the answer at the end rather than standing alongside him.
If anything it shows that they need each other.
>Araragi just wants to be over her.
Wants to. But can't bring himself to.
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>>153015094
>Why is Redditgahara the most hated girl here on /a/
Most boring and overrated monogatari girl.
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>>153015179
Supernatural shit is a veneer over Monogatari's real focus: drama. Romance is part of that. Araragi's relationship with crab just isn't interesting.
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>>153015077
maybe they were breaking up just so they could have make up sex afterwards
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>>152988296
I'm gonna be doing a marathon of the whole series when movie 3 comes out, starting with Kizu
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>>153015187
I hope we don't get nisio'd
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>>153015233
>But can't bring himself to.
He already said in Neko Black that his feelings towards her will never change.
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>>153015167
So does your dad.
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>>153015233
>As for Kanbaru, they're kinda more like best friends if anything. They don't see each other that way.
Being close friends is a good thing in a relationship. It's also the biggest issue with crab: they don't really mesh well together as friends. They also talked about being a good romantic match for each other as soon as Kanbaru stopped trying to kill him.
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>>153015094
Gahara's pretty good actually, personally I just prefer most of the other girls though.

> while the shitty lolis are the most loved ones
Most people here probably won't agree with me but I actually wish Shinobu and Hachikuji were in their hot adult forms all the time.
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>>153015348
Teen bat a best
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>>153015348
I am indifferent as to the forms that Hachikuji and Shinobu take. They're both good in their own ways and the real appeal is who they are. Turns out that making all the girls super hot levels the playing field back to their personalities.
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>>153012744
Been done forever normie
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>>153015179
>Monogatari's main focus isn't romance.
Yes I know that. That doesn't mean relationships don't carry a huge weight on the characters and their dynamic in the story.
>Hitagi has nothing to do with supernatural since Suruga Monkey.
And THAT'S the problem. Araragi and Crab's relationship has been stagnant and dysfunctional. Araragi and Cat on the other hand continue to share great chemistry and their character dynamic continues to grow and evolve.
>What are you want from Nisio? Sex scenes or something?
Nisio's a huge Crabfag and can't bring himself to drop Crab out of the story. I like Crab, but unfortunately Nisio has squandered her character.
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>>153014933
I dropped it after Koimonogatari so I don't know what I've missed, but what annoyed me is that after Bake the relationshiop with Senjougahara was overshadowed by harem antics. This wouldn't be bad if Niso hadn't set up the premise of a love story with that scene where Araragi and Crab go on a date and lie together under the night sky.
I know the series is not about romance, but I feel like I was promised something that was never delivered. Araragi kissing other girls left and right just adds fuel to the fire.
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>>153015233
> Wants to. But can't bring himself to.
This is so fucking stupid. Catfags are retarded. Do they even watch the same show? He rejected her without thinking.
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>>153015077
I mean there are many cases of people who break up a couple of times and still end up getting together. I don't know why are you getting so pissed over this shit.
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>>153015502
>Nisio's a huge Crabfag
Really? I always got the impression that he was a huge Catfag since he writes about her so much.
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>>153015149
>real life rules do not necessarily apply
They do if you want to write a good story. Make your characters ACTUALLY act like people rather than cardboard cutouts. Otherwise it's shit writing.
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>>153015558
I'm not pissed. I'm just noting that their relationship is dysfunctional.
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>>153015502
>Cat on the other hand continue to share great chemistry and their character dynamic continues to grow and evolve
>great chemistry
This is an opinion that many people think the exact opposite of.
>their character dynamic continues to grow and evolve
This is just blatantly false. Hanekawa is such a fucking stagnant character that it's a slap in the face after how much the plot claims she grew in Neko Shiro.
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>>153015094
We don't hate her. She just hasn't done much to drive the story.
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>>153015254
Nisio could make it interesting but he just doesn't want to because he's a post-modernist hack.
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>>153015521
Because he was still with Senjougahara. He admitted that he did also have feelings for Hanekawa, but he chose Senjougahara.
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>>153015329
But Kanbaru is a lesbian.
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>>153015502
> Hitagi has nothing to do with supernatural since Suruga Monkey.
> Araragi and Crab's relationship has been stagnant and dysfunctional.
Nice conclusion.
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>>153015562
Because her character works better in the story while Senjougahara is more of an anchor that drags along and doesn't contribute anything.
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>>153015719
>this meme again
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>>153015503
Not that anon but
>This wouldn't be bad if Niso hadn't set up the premise of a love story with that scene where Araragi and Crab go on a date and lie together under the night sky
The entire purpose of that scene was to add more context to the stuff going on with Hanekawa at the same time, hence it's positioning right in the middle of Hanekawa's arc which was at the very end of Bake. I don't think it was intended to be the big series direction-defining scene that I see a lot of people say it is.

As for stuff after Koi, you might like it I guess because it's like a weird mix of aspects of Bake and Second Season to be honest. The focus of it is more on shitting on Koyomi's life/lifestyle than it is anything else though. Senjougahara has a few bits in it, although the second half of it is about his relationship with Shinobu
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>>153015690
> He admitted that he did also have feelings for Hanekawa
Sure. Long time ago in Neko Kuro. Right after Kizu adventure.
>>153015779
> Because her character works better in the story
It works better because she is a fucking mary sue and can do anything.
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>>152987545
Any alternative links? I can't open it.
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>>152989459
Those are some big fat cat tats
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>>153015875
>Senjougahara has a few bits in it
Aside from destroying a poorfag's face, what else does she do in what's been animated of Owari?
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>>153015094
>shitty lolis
Go look in the mirror and you'll see the guy with the shittiest taste here.
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So tired of catfags shit. Even after fucking Musubi where Araragi has plans to marry Hitagi. Stop it.
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>>153016171
Phone call before the duel and lewd texts.
She was busy with Hanekawa.
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>>153016040
>>153013524
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Fuck you guys, this shit only makes me feel alone and sad.
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>>153016226
Musubi's only going to feed them more though
>Hanekawa asking Koyomi to join her cause
>Koyomi still thinking that he's an insignificant person to her
Not to mention that there's arguably a basic set-up for drama between them in the future, what with Hanekawa being a criminal and Araragi being a cop
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>>153016358
Thanks m8.
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>>153015918
>mary sue
Oh, look, it's this buzzword again...
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>>153016226
fuck off faggot. crab ruined this series and i hope that bitch is killed by deathtopia.
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>>153016408
> Hanekawa asking Koyomi to join her cause
Was it in spoilers? No it wasn't.
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>>152988516
Highschool crossover manga? Fun as fuck.
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>>153015810
Meme? Kanbaru's in love with Senjougahara, remember? And it's pretty obvious that Crab is bi. If anything, Crab and Monkey should have a yuri ending together.
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>>153016530
>crab saved this series
FTFY
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>>153016484
Just because the word got used improperly elsewhere doesn't mean he's not right.
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>>153016591
According to the anon who read Musubi. Too lazy to check but it's in the archive
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>>153016649
>yuri end between Hitagi and Kanbaru
>Araragi ends up with Hanekawa
This would solve EVERYTHING.
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>>153016649
>crab is bi
Crab's like those straight girls who pretend to be bi because they're "bicurious lol". Monkey deserves someone better who won't just cuck her.
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>>153016678
OK then wiseass, what makes Hanekawa a mary sue?
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>>153016649
Kanbaru doesn't care about Crab anymore because she's a bitch to the point that she never calls her in Hana. She only calls Araragi for advice.
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>>153016530
I think Nisio knows better what to do with his own characters and plot than a bunch of buttblasted catfags.
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Will Crab kek Araragi?
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>>153016781
Seriously? Well it doesn't change the fact that she's a lesbian.
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>>153016822
She already has with Kaiki, remember?
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>>153016649
lesbians don't like boys and kanbaru also likes boys.
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>>153016781
Holy shit, is this really what Crabfags tell themselves? Crab has never treated with Kanbaru with decency and it's honestly a mystery that Kanbaru clung to her for as long as she did.
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>>153016766
The big ones are how frequently her job is to just feed Araragi the right answer and how irreproachable she's made out to be.
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>>153016856
Kanbaru views Araragi as her best friend. She also likes to be a cocktease just to mess with him, but she's a canon lesbian.
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>>153016757
Crab had the most explicit yuri scene in the entire series, for what it's worth.

>>153016781
>She only calls Araragi for advice.
She constantly called him over to help her clean her room as usual too. In the beginning of Suruga Bonehead Kanbaru calls Araragi and he gets butthurt about her still doing this even though he doesn't even live in the same town anymore, and tells her to clean her room herself for once and then Ougi walks in right after that to help Kanbaru, interpret that however you want.
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>>153016801
Nisio is a faggot who cares more about deconstructing shit than writing good characters. He's also an autist who knows shit about relationships.
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>>153016713
> Araragi concludes that the trick she used was sending an exact body double she'd found whilst traveling the world. Furthermore, he concludes, the real reason 'Hanekawa' came to the Araragi household was to reclaim, from his room, the panties he'd gotten from her in the past "in order to erase all traces of her past existence" as she'd intended. However, Mitome responds with,"The possibility exists that I could have been guarding the body double, while the REAL one might have been the one who came to see you."
> Despite pointing that out, Koyomi insists there's absolutely no way THAT'S true. Because, as their positions in the world stand now, he's just an inconsequential man to her. But whether that makes him happy or not...
Why would he think so if she asked him?
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>>153016918
She literally said she also liked boys in Hana but whatever you deluded yurifaggot.
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>>153016873
That's NOT what a Mary Sue is you shithead. She's wise and provides good counsel for Araragi. So what? Mary Sue would imply that she has ZERO character flaws whatsoever and was created to be literally perfect.
Read the fucking definition of Mary Sue before you shoot your mouth off, faggot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue
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>>153017029
>She literally said she also liked boys in Hana
[citation needed]
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>>153016781
The LN went into a bit more detail about it but she's basically still in casual contact with Koyomi and to a lesser extent Karen (she mentions a conversation she has with Karen that had her concerned about how intimate she was getting with her brother these days) in general.
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>>153016960
> He's also an autist who knows shit about relationships.
Sure. Relationships in monogatari are the worst. Idiot.
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>>153017102
Rewatch hana again faggot. Not my fault you have short attention span.
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>>152987545
I don't remember this kiss in the novel
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>>153017377
Araragi doesn't remember too
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>>153017078
>Mary Sue would imply that she has ZERO character flaws whatsoever
But that's wrong. A mary sue is a character that trivializes conflict in a story by being "too good." Hanekawa does that by too frequently having the answers to everything and by generally being beyond reproach.

Trying to set the bar for being a mary sue is just dishonest. Try to pretend you have a real argument instead of being a blind cat defense force member.
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Why araragi is so beta?
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>>153016844
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>>152987545
Finally! My boy Araragi is getting his first true love kiss.
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>>153018057
Like your average nip male
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>>153015094
/a/ is not one person you dumb fuck.
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>>153016226
Crab is unironically a low tier bitch to be honest senpai, and she reeks of Kaiki's sperm

>>153016408
Poor Araragi. Always tricking himself out of happiness.
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>>153016992
That inferiority complex is heavy stuff man. I thought anons were just exaggerating about it. Jeez...
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>>153017197
What lewds are happening between Bee and Koyomi?
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>>153018060
Kaiki is a faggot with a 20 year old oneitis. He's the ultimate cuck.
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>>153018442
i agree with you but redditors might get mad. keikifags are probably also snapefags
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>>153018686
Snape is a better character than Kaiki. Snape at least had the whole double agent thing going on for him and he wasn't a fucking jew.
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keep crying anti-kaikifags
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>>153019056
>kaiki
>alpha

why are kaikicucks so deluded?
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>>153019056
>that picture
You realise that most people in these threads (or atleast the most vocal people here) wouldn't even mind him going off with Gahara and Araragi getting together with almost anyone else in the cast, right?
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>>153019178
>blurry thumbnail
>fairy tale
you have to go back
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>>153019056
Tooe pretty much says that Kaiki is a beta orbiter in Zoku Owari.
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>>152996822
and Koyomi isn't a lolicon
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>>153019056
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but manchildren like Kaiki can't be alpha.
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>>153019547
>/a/ unironically thinking they have a say in what's alpha or not
chuckles all around
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>>153019242
>Araragi
>Hanekawa
>Kanbaru
>Kikey, though he's in denial about it
Senjougahara's the actual alpha here, honestly. The fact that everyone here is constantly butthurt about her only confirms it if anything.
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>>153019596
Certainly not manchildren.
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>be in mid-30's
>cucked years ago
>tfw never gf so still bitter
>permavirgin too
>no friends or promising career
>literally scams children out of lunch money to get by
is he /our guy/
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>>153019242
Gahara and Kaiki have such good chemistry that it's actually a waste to put her with Araragi.
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>>153019826
funny thing is i realized i liked crab so much more during the bants she had with kaiki instead of the ones with ararararagi
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>>153019596
You're only proving your point faggot. Mentally cucked faggots like Kaiki can't be alpha.
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>>153019822
I can't even scam children out of items in MMOs.
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>>152987545
I. LOVE. EVERY. FRAME. OF. IT

BD NOW
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>>152987545
LOOKS LIKE HANEKAWA COULDN'T WIN AGAINST THE BIG VAMPIRE COCK
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these threads are cancer
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>>153019998
i guess you could say that since they're both reddit tier characters
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remember when /a/ sucked Kaiki's cock during Koi? now it's Kaiki is a cuck and deserves to die or whatever
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>>153020480
Hana happened and turned him into a beta cuck.
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>>153020480
ever since reddit stole the whole kaiki best girl circlejerk from us /a/ immediately started circlejerking kaiki being a cuck instead, newfriends see this and join it to fit in, nothing new here
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>>153000601
is araragi a shota?
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>>153020578
>ever since reddit stole the whole kaiki best girl circlejerk from us /a/ immediately started circlejerking kaiki being a cuck instead,
Not what happened. This "kaiki is best girl" meme has been going on and randomly posted in pretty much every thread since Koi, and no one called Kaiki a cuck until Hana aired.
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>>153020480
The fact that he's interacting with immature children tells you a lot. The guy seems to be incapable of having a proper social life.
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>>153020480
>now it's Kaiki is a cuck and deserves to die or whatever
Most people still suck his dick, chill anon. It's just /a/ not being able to express any opinion without exaggerating the hell out of it. It's not behavior specific to this series and it has little to do with "fitting in" like what >>153020578 is saying, it's just people being spergy on the internet.
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>>153020480
/a/ is not a hivemind.
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>>153020480

He was always a faggot to me. He was the one who introduced pseudo-intellectual themes into the series
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>>153020480
Many anons seem to have gotten sick of the Kikey is best girl meme. He's also pretty pathetic as a character considering he's like what? 40 years old? I mean you can expect that sort of behavior from a teenager like say Hachiman but not from a fucking middle aged man.
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>>153009148
>Those thights
>Those hips
Muh
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>>153021055
people disliking kaiki for being a manchild are like the people who dislike satou for being a NEET

pretty ironic and hilarious desu
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>>153007964
>That's a good thing. I prefer the "Show, don't tell" narrative.
>Wanting no monologues in a series bases around character interactions.
What the fuck am I reading.
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>>153010974
>Crab's his wife
>Bat's his soulmate
>Cat's his goddess
This is not wrong
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>>153021181
Satou is 22 and isn't a conman. That's not even a remotely close comparison.
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>>153020627
this one is
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>>153015233
>I love Crab, but he and Hanekawa really would be best together.
Arguable
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>>153017249
I need more
>Heart is slowly healing
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>>153002947
LITERALLY PERFECT
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>>153015272

Where did you purchase this?
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>>153020578
Not really. The "cuck" meme exploded around the time Hana aired in 2014 and Kaiki wanting to take care of another's man child fueled the memes.
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>>153019642

Have you not seen the commentaries?

Gahara has non jokingly asked Hanekawa to take her as her bride. And Sodachi saw her full fangirl on her. Literally was about to start choking a bitch with Ougi.

If there is any alpha now it's Big Bo- I mean Hanekawa.
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>>153017884

Hanekawa has a fatal flaw though, she smothers people who she puts under her charge. When Araragi calls her his second mother, there is a bad side to that.

Sure, she is great at what she does, but sometimes people have to fuck up to grow, and she mothers people to death.

Nisio, as much as it pains me to admit this, does it well with her in that her strength is a weakness at the same time.
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time to kill the thread with best girl
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>>153022877
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Gym Scene was hilarious.
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>>153022877
>>153022922

I didn't do it this time.
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>>153022953

But I am willing to participate.
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CRABFAGS BTFO
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>>153023010
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Ougi is a godsend
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spooky
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>>153023110

This is a good way to end a thread. I could post Ougi all day.
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wtf i dont like this?
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>>153023217

Thread is going to die anyways.
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let's end it with some doll too since she gets no love
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i'm rewatching hana and araragi mentions that he already had a fight with senjougahara. does that mean their first break up happens between zoku owari and hana?
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Reminder to never lewd Ougi.
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>>153023562
>>153023708
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>>153023708

For scientific reasons, someone post the Ougi version of this picture. I know one of you fellow Ougifags has it.
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>>153023024
thats her father lmao
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>>153023708
It's such a waste that she is always stuck in her little form.
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>>153023024
wait who are they and when was this again
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>>153023996
that's araragi's butt. the next scene show them together like this>>152991211
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>>153023796
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>>153023796
>>153024236
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>>153023796
>>153024236
>>153024288
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This one is based in her dress in the Owari cover instead of the meme sweater but anyway
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>>153024464

I prefer the dress more than the meme sweater but I save pretty much every Ougi pic anyways.
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Ougi School Idol Project
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do we lewd the Ougi as this thread meets it end?
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>>153025049

Do it I dare you
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>>153025074
SPOOKY

SLEEVE

HANDY-J'S
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>>153025006
Need some mathematically generated vocals there?
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>>153025161

DO IT.
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