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What the actual heck is up with the blatant nepotism in fansubbing?

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What the actual heck is up with the blatant nepotism in fansubbing? I just went to get a show from Nyaa and for some ungodly reason Chihiro is the blue group even though they've barely subbed half of it and it's been over for like two months. Do fansubbers really have the luxury to be giving each other preferential treatment when they're in danger of dying as it is, thanks to the growing popularity of official translations?
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they have microdicks so they compensate on the internets
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theyre not in danger of dying. real groups are already dead, killed off by Crunchyroll rippers and shekel peddlers. The "donations plox! ^^;" meme is just a shekel scam.
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This is the reason why I, for one, welcome our CR overlords. Fansubbing is a complete shitshow as it is and there is no reason it should exist as the donations-grabbing failure it is now.
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>>152955294
This
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Time to learn runes I guess
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cartel, daiz, and other shills
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>>152955294
You are the kind of cancer that killed fansubs too.
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>>152955294
>donating 2 bucks? fuck no. they don't deserve it. Paying a monthly subscription to CR? Sing me up.

Fuck off with that logic.
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>>152955467
>Paying Pirates
Yeah sure.
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>>152955717
Wait 10 years and buy the overpriced bds then.
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>>152955467
Supporting CR supports the industry. Supporting a fansubber just supports some fat neckbeard who lives with his mother and makes a point of making himself one of the most unpleasant people in the world to interact with (herkz).
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>>152955780
>Supporting CR supports the industry
Marginally.
Absolutely right about herkz though.
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Wasn't Chihiro hated by the "cartel"?
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>>152955780
>supporting CR supports the industry
Save your shitty monthly payments and buy something that actually supports the industry, like BDs or figs.
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>>152954670
you don't know what you're talking about
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>>152955872
t. herkz
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CONSPIRACY!
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>>152955899
>t.
Crossboarder filth detected.
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>>152955806
Marginally is better than not at all.
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>>152954670
>barely subbed half of it
I don't see how that's relevant. If their subs are The Bestâ„¢ for the episodes they've done then those episodes will be blue.
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>>152956109
You could buy the BDs or the figures to ACTUALLY support the industry.
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>>152955814
Yeah, but I think they got rid of Kristen who was the main reason the cartel was anti-Chihiro. Honestly it's all very "school playground"-esque drama.
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>>152956133
It's all overpriced bullshit. $150 for a piece of plastic which doesn't even look all that great? Fuck that. Crunchyroll at least is actually affordable.
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>>152956161
Yeah but CR doesn't actually support the industry either.
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>>152956116
That's the thing. They aren't even the best. Chyuu did a superior job in less time yet because Daiz is all buddy-buddy with Chihiro he blue them, despite their slow and mediocre releases.
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>>152956188
What show are we talking about
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>>152956161
So you're too stupid to save up?
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>>152956180
>Yeah but CR doesn't actually support the industry either.
I'd love to hear your logic as to how they don't.
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>>152956161
>I want to support the industry
>I don't want to spend money
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>>152956219
The stupid person is the one who is dumb enough to buy a shitty figurine instead of something with actual value.
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>>152955294
On one hand, without CR we would have never got a lot of the anime we got, especially something like Rakugo. On the other hand, often they do a poor job and they don't translate everything, so we do need fangroups.
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>>152956243
>actual value
Like figure, which you can resell and can't torrent, unlike videos from Crunchyroll?
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>>152956243
>something with actual value
Lad if anything the figures and BDs are worth more because if it comes down to brass tacks they at least represent physical wealth.

>>152956232
>writing the anime original ending of Akame ga Kill
The funny thing the anime original ending actually made more sense than the retarded bullshit we got in the manga.
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>>152956211
what is this chart supposed to represent
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>>152956283
at least the manga gave us semen pool.
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>>152956232
>Planting drugs on Ai Takabe to prevent another season of Kill Me Baby
>Writing the anime original ending of Kuma Miko
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>>152956283
>>152956272
>I am materialistic. I only see value in physical things.
It's a waste of time trying to explain it to you.
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>>152956283
I feel like the dudes at White Fox looked at where the manga was going and went "Fuck this. We're writing our own ending." I'm thankful to them for it, at least it meant it ended instead of having to draw it out for another two years.
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>>152956330
So if you see value in the digital releases, why not simply torrent those releases? HS might just be crunchyroll but it's the same shit that CR would be releasing for a monthly fee.

>hurr I'm not poor I want to support the industry
Then buy the BDs, buy the figs, buy the manga, buy the LNs?
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>>152956330
So what value do you see in using shitty streaming service instead of downloading?
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>>152956330
Then why don't you just shove the money up your ass? Holy shit. This guy.
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>>152956249
Rakugo? That would have been easily subbed..

At it's peak fansubbing got just as many shows, and sometimes more. Even know there's a handful of shows CR doesn't do.
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>>152954670
No one gives a shit about fansubs anymore.
It isn't 2009 you fuck
just wait til someone rips the official video
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>>152956317
Wtf? Kmb? I'm going to go stab him!!!!
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>>152956211
>Lots of old dead groups be here
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>>152956415
I'd say a lot of people do
Especially for blurays, which CR just flat out doesn't do.
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>>152956378
Why don't you shove your childish attitude up your ass?
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>>152956442
>>Especially for blurays, which CR just flat out doesn't do.
Nobody gives a shit about BRs. They're only "notable" for 2% of releases, and even then you can just look at a screenshot comparison.
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>>152956241
>Too stupid to understand how to spend money wisely
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>>152954670
I don't understand the issue here. You're acting like meme subs like Commie haven't been selected as A+ on Nyaa for years. It literally means nothing. Just ignore it and download quality ones instead.
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>>152956537
>says as he's wasting his money on Crunchy
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>>152956535
Considering that BDs get a lot of downloads on nyaa and AB and such you're talking out of your ass

>>152956537
>buying a CR subscription when you can literally download the same thing for free is wise spending
I could understand if HS didn't exist.
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>>152956537
>it's better to give 2 cents to all the studios equally than 50 bucks to a studio I actually like, AND get something in return
Kill yourself. I don't even like figs, but at least it's actually supporting something.
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>>152956535
>Nobody gives a shit about BRs
That's not true. Anyone that's picking up a year+ old anime is going to torrent the BD over the TV.
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>>152956161
Great to hear you're supporting inaccurate and biased translations.
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>>152956537
>spend money wisely
You're paying to stream anime m8.
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>>152956625
>This guy still torrents and wastes his good harddrive space
heh
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>>152956643
>biased
Not him and I don't use HS except for air-day or for ones nobody picked up but how is it biased? Curious to know
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>>152956677
>good hard drive space
Lad a 4TB HDD is like 100 bucks and is enough space for you to download EVERYTHING released for two years, anime, shorts, specials, and movies.
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>>152956677
Nice dubs.
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>>152956677
>thumbnail
Is this on purpose
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>>152954670
If you care so much why dont you make your own Nyaa ripoff?
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>>152956249
>especially something like Rakugo
Rakugo would have been subbed, I remember thread discussing the possibility of anons subbing it, before the simulcast got announced very close to the beginning of airing.

>>152956384
> At it's peak fansubbing got just as many shows, and sometimes more
If you waited three to nine months after it ended, sure.
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>>152954670
welcome to the cartel.
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>>152955433
Fansub groups killed fansubbing by acting like teenaged girls.
When they do finally sub something, they need to make it "theirs" by taking creative liberties with the subs, changing them to things they think are funny. Remember that time Herkz came here and posted about how he sincerely believes that the average human being talks like 4chan users type?
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gg was the A+ release for Hyouka for the longest time despite dropping it like 1/3 into the series.
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>>152956801
Fansub groups died on their own because HS releases fast as fuck with more or less acceptable quality - not optimal but at least they actually finish the series on time and not half a year later. People still download fansub groups after the fact sometimes but the mere existence of HS means they have an uphill battle.
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>>152956801
>Fansub groups killed fansubbing by acting like teenaged girls.
No, simulcasting killed fansubbing by making it semi-redundant and reducing the audience drastically.
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>>152956849
>>152956850
Right, they were so quickly and easily overtaken because they're slow, act like complete faggots and pump out bullshit.
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>>152956904
It's mainly because they're slow.
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>>152955294
>go to nyaa
>HS uploads are almost always above 150-200 seeds
>other fansubbing groups barely get 10
>HS are pretty okay quality I guess
>other fansubbing groups are varying quality. Some of them are truly awesome, but not all of them.
>HS usually gets subs out the next day when a show airs
>other fansubbing groups waste time and effort by subbing shows that are 2-3 years old, everyone already seen them, and they do it on a really slow pace, like 1 episode per week at best

oh geez, I wonder why everyone downloads HS and why CR is a thing
they just can't compete, can they?
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What I find lame is that some things go completely unsubbed or are left to inexperienced one man groups while some show on CR has three different groups working on it. There was a short show a while ago called Suzakinishi that's still unsubbed, two groups picked it up and both stopped (up to episode 4). Last season's Idol Memories is up to episode 7 thanks to some guy called Thundra-Subs. The new Seitokai Yakuindomo OVAs aren't getting subbed at all. And so on.

I like better typesetting and chapter markers and shit, but they aren't THAT important.
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>>152957148
Yeah it's terrible
Especially when there's more than one group on a single series that CR already has, I mean sure if FFF picks up a series that CR has that's fine but when FFF and Damedesuyo and whatever all pick it up I'm just, can't you find better targets that won't get subbed if you don't do it?
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>>152957148
>The new Seitokai Yakuindomo OVAs aren't getting subbed at all
Is it the complexity/speed of the dialog that puts fansubbers off in this case? Sucks, I'm not smart enough to get fluent in moon.
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>>152954670
Why would you go to nyaa? You're literally drinking Daiz's piss as he hand picks the "good" groups.

Just use TT like a normal person. Or go directly to the site of whatever group you prefer.
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>>152957234
Translating something and being fluent in it are different
Like you can easily be fluent but not want to bother with translating because it's a fucking hassle and it's not even like LNs where fundamentally it comes down to just rewriting, no here you have to write up sub scripts, time them, etc.
It's a massive pain in the arse
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>>152957257
>TT
what
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>>152957234
If I'm not mistaken, the first season was fansubbed and there was no simulcast. Several OVAs got fansubbed too.
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>remember when nyaa allowed all kinds of groups
>they started some fansub group illuminati where perfectly good groups were blacklisted from nyaa for not sucking the right cocks or getting more leechers than their blue friends
>groups got killed because most of their users only knew nyaa
>recently saw a guy who does nothing but nitpick over small releases and remakes them with his autistic "fixes" get blue status for being herkz's friend
>guy literally contributes nothing but will bully and overtake budding fansubbers just cuz

This is how you murder a fansub community.
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>>152957274
>what

Google Tokyo Toshokan damn man
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>>152957460
>Tokyo Toshokan
Isn't that in Japanese though
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>>152957500
Nope. You can use it in English.
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>>152957500
>Tokyo Toshokan
>in Japanese
...no?
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>>152955294
Rip OVAs, BD extras, movies, webtoons and anything that's not TV.
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>>152957460
>>152957257
TT, at least for anime, is mostly the same stuff as nyaa. Hell iirc it even links to nyaa, the only thing that's different is the "good" and "bad" group listing
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>>152957446
I see plenty of releases on nyaa that aren't popular and aren't from any established group.
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>>152956679
He probably got mad that Youjo Senki had a guy saying "You damn Republicans!"
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>>152957560
I'm not saying they don't allow non-blue subbers but they've done a lot of damage just to have a "elite" class on the website and are still giving preference to "the blues" for no better reason than nepotism.
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>>152957554
Does anyone use Shana Project? I bookmarked it once when both nyaa and TT went down but never used it since then.
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>>152957446
You're right about all of this, but Doki is a very bad group. I'm glad Nyaa doesn't allow them.
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>>152957276
Problem with SYD is the only group that cared about doing it was UTW and they're dead now.
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>>152957656
>I'm glad Nyaa doesn't allow them.
Since when?
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Fansubbing died with Hadena bullying.
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>>152957684
Very long time ago. Multiple years at this point. If I remember correctly it wasn't even because of their sub quality (at least, on the surface) but because one of them threw a tantrum and started spamming garbage torrents.
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>>152957148
Even worse about Idol Memories, the dude doesn't sub half the episode because it's the seiyuu talking.

Damn it, I want more subbed interviews and stuff. I find them really interesting.
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>>152957683
Didn't Coalgirls die recently too?
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>>152957716
No, one person in Doki (who is no longer in Doki) tried to fuck up Nyaa.
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>>152957148
The shows that don't get any subs usually are shit and don't have many fants to begin with. Idol Memories, for example, is garbage.
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>>152957755
Jesus fucking christ
At least with CR subbing everything but the niche shit I like there's a low chance of fansub drama happening in the future.
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>>152957687
What happened with Hadena anyway
It was around 2012 right?

>>152957643
Yeah I use it or TT
The autodownloader is pretty neat.
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>>152957740
You are in a very small minority. Most don't care about that stuff. Simple economics: low demand, low interest.
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>>152957643
Shana Project is basically an RSS front-end for TT.
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>>152957777
>SYD OVAs are shit

>>152957802
Fansubbing generally doesn't operate off economics, since they do it for free.
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>>152957814
I didn't mean real economics. I meant that if interest is low, not many people are going to want to work on it, just like in an economiy if demand for something is low the ineterest of making that something is also low (unless those interested pay a lot of money).
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>>152957802
Are you the real DmonHiro?
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Touhou anime has lousy fansubbing coverage too. I thought Touhou was more popular than that.
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>>152957777
This post perfectly illustrates why I'm glad fansubbing has been replaced by official translations. Fansubbers are an elitist minority trying to decide the opinion of the majority. Crunchyroll, meanwhile, provides subs regardless of the perceived quality of the show. Things are different when you're a business and personal feelings don't get in the way.

Your logic is retarded anyway. Hyouge Mono took years to get subs but when it finally did, people loved it. The people who require subs can't become fans unless the show, you know, actually has subs.
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>>152957978
Merely having a preference doesn't make someone elitist. You certainly aren't entitled to the labor of other people.
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>>152957942
Huh? The few Touhou anime that even exist have been subbed pretty quickly in my experience, just not by any of the big groups.
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>>152958066
>>152957942
>touhou anime
Touhou has anime? What?
You mean the doujin OVAs?
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>>152958066
The Memories of Phantasm series is up to episode 6 or 7 now but the fansub situation is a clusterfuck. Sealed Esoteric History appears to have no fansubs.
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>>152958143
>doujin stuff don't get subbed
More news at 11.
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>>152958028
I'm not making the claim I'm entitled to it, I'm simply tearing apart the flimsy logic that these people use to justify their preferences. I'm happy to pay an official service when it means shows are subbed without bias.

I've seen it happen all too frequently that someone in the fansubbing scene calls a show crap while it's being lauded by many circles. I do not trust these people to decide "what we should watch" so it is an enormous relief to me that thanks to Crunchyroll, many shows receive quality translations regardless of their input. I can choose for myself what I want to watch and enjoy, thank you very much.
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>>152958143
>Sealed Esoteric History appears to have no fansubs.
Uh... this seems to be Chinese. I'm not exactly surprised.
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>>152954670
>tfw had enough of this bullshit back in 2009, decide to study Japanese
>tfw favorite Fansubs are Ohys-Raws
>tfw get all the Extras with your ReinForce BD Rip
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>>152958172
Sure but what about the shows that CR doesn't sub, or movies / BDs / OVAs?
And no, you don't get it. It's not that the fansubbers try to decide what you should watch but that they're not interested in the show so they're not going to sub it. I might sub Youjo Senki or Maidragon but I sure as hell ain't doing Handshakers or elDlive because I'm not interested in those shows so I'm not going to donate my effort to subbing them. You're demonizing fansubbers who simply do the things they like.
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>>152958160
Touhou's popular, there's no official subs, and plenty of people translate doujinshi, so you'd think the fansub situation would be better than it is. There's plenty of people available for making karaoke for simulcasts though.

>>152958196
It is, but you'd never know it by looking at it. It also got a voiced version with seiyuu like Hanakana.
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>>152958241
You get those few translations in the first place because 2hu is popular, seriously though look around, what other franchise has fanmade anime AND translation for them?
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>>152958197
The average anon should be able to watch most series without the need for subs.
Japanese isn't even as hard as most people make it out to be.
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>>152958340
You severely overestimate the Japanese fluency of most anons.
Learning a language is by no means a trivial task and even if it is people who haven't learned it will have trouble watching even shit like konosuba
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>>152958340
>I know what tsuki and desu mean, I totally get japanese guise
I used to think like you about spanish until I actually learned it and realized how much of a fucktard I was.
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>>152958275
Touhou even gets all those random video game spinoffs translated. Like barely any of the actual SRWs are translated but Touhou SRW is because it's Touhou. It's an impressive fanbase.
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>>152958216
Fansubbers lost all right to "do the things they like" when they started saying "Give us donations or else we will die!" That's why it's sickening when they whine that people have expectations of them, as if they aren't being paid for their service. And it's not even solely about them refusing to do shows. That much is understandable, to a degree. It's also about them committing to a show and then whining about it every step of the way.

They're all a bunch of petulant children who have never grown up.
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>>152958519
That's utterly irrelevant to anything I just said.
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>>152958216
>Sure but what about the shows that CR doesn't sub, or movies / BDs / OVAs?
Also, many of these get R1 releases. CR was just an example. There are many forms of official translations that pick up for fansubbers' slack.
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>>152956801
Herkz is an antifa drone shitstain SJW maggot
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>>152958340
>>152958379

The first anon is right, as long as you actually want it and read into it a bit and gather some experience, you can learn quite a lot from anime alone, depending on what you watch.
I have two friends speaking fluent japanese in a limited extend, so daily convo only, and they have never written a Hiragana in their lives.

Japanese is also quite an easy language as long as you don't want to write or read it.
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>>152958540
I don't see how. If you're fatigued from arguing you can just admit it.
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>>152958580
>daily convo only
That's already non-trivial fluency anon.

>>152958588
I don't see any relevance to my point. I can't argue against your points because you're off on a tangent. You're attacking the subbers as people or something, and I can't argue against that because I don't laze about in the IRC or whereever you're hearing this stuff from.

>>152958545
>implying BDs or OVAs get official subs uploaded
Right obviously if they get english subbed releases, that's different. Movies too, but that ain't always true. Actually until recently it was almost never true.
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>>152958519
Why do people even care about all this drama shit anyway? Seriously I just download whatever gets dropped on nyaa and don't even know what the webpage of those groups even look like.
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>>152958580
You're right to an extent. I took some Japanese classes back in college but didn't pursue the language after that, so as a result I can usually follow shows well enough to know whether a translation is accurate. But my understanding is imperfect so I still like use subs, especially since translations often embellish upon the original dialogue in ways that enhance the writing. Kanji is some real bullshit and it's a lot easier to understand the spoken word than the written word.
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>>152958519
>when they started saying "Give us donations or else we will die!"
Are there groups really saying that?

It seems like when donations and crowdfunding became widespread a lot of people suddenly started having problems doing things that were previously done as a hobby or with their own money, as if suddenly they just didn't have the money they needed.
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>>152958668
Not him and I don't know about groups doing that but I think it's like
When you're doing something for free and suddenly you have the chance to make money, some people will take it

>>152958664
>kanji is some real bullshit
Kanji actually makes Japanese like ten times easier to read in my experience
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>>152958668
Commie does it all the time. What's worse is that there are actually people who like Commie enough to support them.
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>>152958686
Well Commie is meme shit anyway
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>>152958668
It's kind of understandable for manga translation since buying magazine/tanks and scan them costs actual money, what do anime subbers even use the money for beside running their own website and their own ass?
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>>152958684
>Kanji actually makes Japanese like ten times easier to read in my experience
Only because Japanese people haven't heard of this wonderful concept called putting spaces between separate words. If they did that it really wouldn't be necessary. Kanji characters are just way too fucking complex to memorize compared to hiragana and katakana. Look at the English alphabet. 26 letters, 52 if you count capital letters, and it's used in many languages on top of that. Meanwhile there are over a thousand fucking kanji. Whose stupid idea was this?
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>>152958744
The chinks, it's always the chinks.
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>>152958744
Alphabets are evolved from syllabaries while kanji (and therefore ultimately kana) are evolved from ideographs and composite ideographs. Two different language systems.

>spaces between seperate words
English and sometimes even Latin also lacked spaces for quite a while anon.

If you learn the kanji they're clean as fuck and not at all complicated, considering you can still break them down into chunks.
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>>152958744
>Kanji characters are just way too fucking complex to memorize
Lad I don't think they're much different from English spelling
Chinks and nips get along just fine using the things so obviously it's not a big deal. The former use over 10k of the things on a regular basis. Compared to that, the 2.5k of Japanese are kind of a trifle.
The really obscure ones that even most nips don't know are like the big words most native English speakers aren't familiar with.
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So normie with disposable income here that mildly watches anime.

Why exactly doesn't CR support the industry? I buy a year and just watch shows every now and then when I have free time. I use it like netflix or amazon video basically. I have a buddy that's super into this stuff though and he lets me share his plex, and he swears by fansubbers and I believe him. The subs generally seem to be pretty good and usually it's shows that aren't on CR.

I know someone brought up a point about buying BDs and figs, and I have a few here and there. So how is one form supporting the industry, but another doesn't really? Is it just the money goes directly to the publishers instead of some 3rd party?
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>>152958624
They ARE people, which is vital to the point I've been arguing from the start. I don't see why this wouldn't factor in. Because they're people, they let their biases and elitism seep into their fansubbing decisions. Crunchyroll is a company. It doesn't have that problem because it is driven by business deals.

As for the second part, it doesn't matter if they're "uploaded." That's why you buy those releases and support unbiased translations. Not everything is covered, but a steadily increasing amount is. Eventually it all will be, and that is when I will celebrate the long-awaited death of fansubbers.
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>>152958852
Learn to read the thread, faggot.
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>>152958390
I used to think like you until I learned it's just another writing and speaking system like all other human languages.
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>>152956801
>Remember that time Herkz came here and posted about how he sincerely believes that the average human being talks like 4chan users type?
The funniest thing is he made fun of /a/ for not knowing how people speak in real life (because yeah, like you said, he thinks people say 'my sides' outside of the internet), but he admits all the time he's an autistic faggot that never leaves his house or speaks to anyone.
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>>152958888
It's just people arguing. No one has explained how CR doesn't support the industry besides maybe that picture of daiz.
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>>152958390
You've been doing this for years, if you can't watch the most basic SoL shit without subs then something must be wrong with your brain.
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>>152958917
You clearly didn't read everything, try again.
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>>152958927
meh i don't care that much, thanks anyway
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>>152958879
>I don't see why this wouldn't factor in
Because they're people therefore they're not subbing for you? Do you know how entitled you sound? You're basically saying that these people who are subbing shit on their free time aren't subbing literally everything and the things you want so they're assholes and deserve to fuck off.
It's not elitism, it's personal preference. It's not bias, it's that they do things for free and on their own time. No don't give me the donations spiel, donations are donations, they're not mandatory. If they fuck off because nobody is giving them donations that's on them.

>that's why you buy those releases
That don't cover everything.

>steadily increasing
Not good enough, I want the shows I'm interested in now, not the shows I will be interested in ten years from now.

>long awaited death
>more options are bad hurr
Fuck off to Crunchy if you love them so much.

>>152958852
Lad I'm not going to go through the whole spiel but think of it this way
In one version you're going through a middleman who's licensed the shows already.
In another version the only real middleman is the vendor selling shit for the studio.
Which one gives the studio a better cut?
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>>152958924
Please, even your basic SoL shit usually has a ton of wordplay shit that nips love, that subbers can't even translate properly, let alone some basement autist who thinks he knows japanese by watching chinese cartoon.
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>>152958924
You can watch it, you just won't get every little joke, just like a middle schooler can read Hamlet.
Also SoL shit tends to have a lot of Japanese-only puns and wordplays that you can't understand quite so easily.
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>>152958924
Are you literally making the >I know Japanese from watching anime argument
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>>152958924
But something is wrong with my brain, senpai. I need fansubs.
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>>152958984
I'm making the >I can watch some anime raw based on the fact that I've been listening to the same shit over and over for a decade argument.
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>>152958966
I was about to laugh at you comparing a slice of life show to Hamlet but then I remembered that Shakespeare's plays actually were made for the commoners. Kind of funny how they're regarded as high literature now.

Will the same thing happen to Kiniro Mosaic a hundred years from now?
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>>152958945
The studio doesn't necessarily get anything. They are often just contractors.
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>>152959049
That depends on the contract, if the studio's producer is part of the production committee then they do get profits from BDs and merchs.
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>>152959046
Half of hamlet's jokes are literally the early modern period equivalent of elaborate Your Mom jokes.
Chaucer's Caunterbury Tales, often lauded as one of the defining masterpieces of the English language as a whole, is filled to the brim with fart jokes.
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>>152959046
Shakespeare's plays had about three sex, delicious thighs, pussy, penis, titty or testicle jokes for every little section, the man simply couldn't go on without insinuiating things
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>>152957716
>>152957755
There were two things. First Doki was repeatedly posting hentai to the SFW frontend instead of Sukebei where it belonged. After repeated deletions of failing to follow this simple rule they lost their trusted status.

Then there was the other thing. Doki had a member called Power2All, who happened to run his own tracker called AniRena. Now, Power2All really hated Nyaa, and had been very vocal about it. So one day Nyaa gets an e-mail forwarded to him about a complaint made in an attempt to take down Nyaa's domain, and the e-mail happened to come from... [email protected] So, when confronted about this, he made up some bullshit about how "his email was hacked", and here's the kicker: the rest of the Doki staff defended him. So when you have a group member attack NT and the rest of the group covering up for him, well, that's how you get banned from the site in question.

As for why they haven't been unbanned, this all happened years ago yet they still insist to this day that "Power2all did nothing wrong", and as such, they remain banned. Frankly, they seem to enjoy playing the martyr with this so they probably have no interest in getting unbanned anyway, especially considering they've never asked for it.
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>>152958945
Okay, so with fan subs and piracy, japan doesn't get anything at all from the consumer?
Unless they buy the BDs, which helps sales of the show, or figures, which is like merchandise or something? And they get some money off of merch like anywhere else?

But with CR, you give your money to CR, and..? They like have a deal with studios to show them online, but CR gets the bigger slice of the pie per se?
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>>152958945
It's not just donations. You realize they make money off ad revenue from their sites, downloads, etc.? This is a job for them, the only reason they don't treat it like one is because they haven't grown the fuck up. Herkz is particularly guilty of this, to the extent that when he got an actual job for Frontwing they fired his ass because he didn't know how to fucking shut his mouth and started shit talking the company on Twitter and IRC.
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>>152959125
He's here, the one who is killing anime is here.
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I don't understand, KinMosa already is high level anime for intellectuals.
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>>152959125
>they've never asked for it.
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>>152959125
So /a/ says you're literally satan. What do you do again? Run Fakku and nyaa?
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>>152959128
iirc usually it works like
CR gives money to the studios for the right to license their shows and show it. You watching it or not does not change the price of the license, only CR's profit margin. At most, if a lot of new people pay for subscriptions, CR is able to afford more series.
Blu-Rays, figures, and other merc like dakis are what actually makes money for the studio or show directly. Buying LNs and tanks may or may not give money to the author / mangaka depending on the specific contract.

>>152959130
>downloads
>implying they get money when I download from TT
Am I retarded? Do they actually make money when I go to nyaa, TT or Shana to download their shit? How?
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>>152959177
Do you not understand how torrent clients work? Seriously?
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>>152959125
I don't like you and your bald ass but I do appreciate the explanation.
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>>152959189
I...can you tell me how they can possibly make money from me if I'm using qbitorrent to download their shit? Or hell just for the sake of it let's pretend I'm using utorrent or bittorrent with their shitty ads. Do they get a slice of those ads or some shit?
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>>152959128
>But with CR, you give your money to CR, and..?

How the streaming industry works is that basically the Japanese production companies auction off exclusive rights between western companies. What the auction is based on is basically who is willing to pay the biggest "minimum guarantee" - a fixed per-episode cost to license the show for English streaming.

This cost is a lump sum they to Japan in advance of showing, and then they set out to recoup the costs. The deals also include paying revenue, but basically it works so that they don't pay revenue until they hit the point where they'd have paid the minimum guarantee in revenue, and after that will they start paying additional revenue to Japan from the show.

There's more to it than that but that's the basics. Paying CR does definitely support the industry, though I personally wouldn't recommend doing so unless you live in the US (where CR has the most licenses) and are okay with the quality of HorribleSubs releases as-is (since they're just direct CR rips most of the time).
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>>152959168
>implying Fakku isn't literally Satan
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>>152959128
CR pays for licenses, more people giving them money doesn't increase their costs or the money they send to Japan.

You buy merchandise, you're at the very least giving money to the production committee, and sometimes that will trickle down to the studio depending on their contract. With some anime, studios are in the committee already so you're definitely giving them money.

If you buy manga/LNs you're getting money to the author and editor, and if you buy it fairly soon after an adaptation you're increasing the boost the anime gave the source material and that publisher will be more likely to give the studio better works in the future, so it's an indirect benefit for them.
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>>152959214
They don't make money from you torrenting.
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>>152959242
Right that's what I thought.
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>>152955843
Those things are functionally useless though.
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>>152959283
>figs
>functionally useless
Also to be fair, if you can speak Japanese then the BDs, tanks, and LNs suddenly become extremely useful.
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>>152959283
How are they anymore useless than digital release you can get for free?
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>>152959261
Or do they?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQoRXhS7vlU
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>>152959233
So then how does CR make money anyway? Isn't most of the stuff free, or only the newest episode is locked away for a week for subscription members? I thought paying for a subscrpition just took off ads?

Our does CR have way more subs than I actually thought?
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>>152959388
CR makes most of their money from subscriptions no doubt. Yeah, episodes are available for free after a week with ads, but you're also limited to potato quality video (even lower than HS 480p). If you want HD video, you need to subscribe (not that their HD video is all that great either, mind you, especially with the recent bitrate halvings, but it's still way ahead of the free stream quality).
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>>152959388
Paying for a subscription gives you 720p and 1080p, I believe.
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>>152959425
>>152959433
I completely forgot you needed a sub for HD. Okay, yeah that makes a lot more sense then.
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>>152956211
It's missing the Rothschilds, those fucking jews.
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>>152959388
>>152959425
About the ads, adblockers have no trouble dealing with them so that reason isn't particularly enticing.
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>>152959425
>especially with the recent bitrate halvings
Source on this? I haven't noticed any difference. Hell, Gabriel Dropout is better on HS than with fansubs.
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>>152959476
You underestimate how many people don't bother with adblockers, even with how easy it is nowadays. Also, it's harder to block ads on other devices that CR has an app for, such as game consoles.
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>>152959512
>Source on this? I haven't noticed any difference.

That's because they're still encoding with the old setup too, and HS is ripping those. However, if you're watching things with the new HTML5 player they rolled out on the actual site, you're getting their "New and Improved" encodes:

http://diff.pics/QiXd4SQOyzmI/1

So funnily enough you're getting better quality by pirating CR rips than actually watching legitimately on the site itself. Or rather, holy fuck that is pathetic CR you should be ashamed of yourself.
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>>152959576
Second one actually looks better on new, but the first one is pretty bleh. That's kinda lame then, good thing for HS.
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CR is for speed subs. Sub groups are for BD archives.
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>>152959725
This
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>>152959725
>>152959745
If they do the show. Concrete Revolutio was one of the greatest anime of 2015, yet look at its BD situation.
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>>152959787
Yeah well
It's sad stuff to be honest, I'm currently studying nipponese so I can just buy the BDs
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>>152959804
That's the way to go. If you want something done, the best way is to do it yourself.

Someday I'll personally do the BDs for shows that never got them. And be promptly shat on by the cartel, I'm sure.
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>>152959871
Careful, Daiz is among us
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>>152959787
>>152959804
If it comes down to it, I usually mux my own BD batch with CR's script and wait for an upgrade.
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>>152959887
He has no power here.
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>>152959235
If Daiz were literally Satan, wouldn't Fakku be literally Hell?
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>>152959987
Daiz doesn't run Fakku.
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>>152957656
Doki is definitely one of the better groups. Their encodes aren't bloated as fuck, and their scripts are usually just fine.
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>>152958743
>What do anime subbers even use the money for beside running their own website and their own ass?
Buying BDs for bluray releases.
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>>152960651
What? I don't usually say this, but is this bait? Their scripts are repetitive and stiff, British for no real reason, and full of grammatical errors.
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>>152960750
Well they're a British group. Their grammar seems fine relative to any other group, though I usually only watch their BD releases. I'd rather take a stiff and repetitive script over a meme filled one.
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>>152960846
I'd rather take neither and go with something superior: Choose DameDesuYo.
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>>152957446
>>recently saw a guy who does nothing but nitpick over small releases and remakes them with his autistic "fixes" get blue status for being herkz's friend
Hang on, are you referring to Xythar? I think I know exactly what you're talking about.
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>>152960893
The only series I recall that they both did was kabaneri and doki did it better.
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>>152960986
I have trouble believing this. Give me a couple line comparisons that you genuinely believe are better.
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>>152960750
>British for no real reason
>Implying Yankie is better

Shouldn't you be whipping your slaves like a good christian should, you know, before them cotton pickers start demanding equal rights and stuff?
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>>152961082
>all non-British people are American
Nice regional exclusivism, man.
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>>152958849
>the 2.5k of Japanese
Try 3.5k to 4k if you want to be able to read without a texthooker.

>>152958744
>If they did that it really wouldn't be necessary
Reading things in kana only makes me want to kill myself. Its tedious, the text becomes more ambiguous and it doesn't look as good.

>>152958580
>Japanese is also quite an easy language
People speak fast, a lot of vocab, slang etc. Sounds like a Japanese saying English is easy because everyone talks to him like a baby.

SOL can actually be a bit harder than serious shows, because depending on the theme of the episode anything can pop up.
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>>152961113
>>all non-British people are American
I'm arguing that all non-Americans English speakers use the Queens English, not Trumpeneese.

American English isn't the global default, anon. It isn't even the default in the conglomerate of states that butchered the Queens English in the first place.

You're probably too young to remember when the British empire ruled over half the world.
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>>152961195
>3.5k to 4k
Was under the impression that the college entry level student would know 2.5k
Either way, it's a far cry from China's 10k+ that are regularly used
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>>152961236
>You're probably too young to remember when the British empire ruled over half the world.
Mate are you like 100 years old or something?
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Why do people hate CR so much? I mean, I remember in the early 2000s, I would watch everything from CR. Well back then it was free but you get the idea.
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>>152961070
You're asking for a lot there. Compare them yourself if you're genuinely curious otherwise this will have to do:
https://fansub.co/koutetsujou-no-kabaneri/
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>>152961236
British English is absolutely not the default. Name one country outside of the United Kingdom that uses "mum."
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>>152961268
>watching on CR back when it was a pirate site

Well, you clearly have no standards whatsoever, so that should answer your question as to why with people who do have standards care.
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>>152961268
Because CR used to be bad.
Now it's acceptable.
It's also the only decent option for simulcasts.
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>>152961268
In the early 2000s Crunchyroll actually was just another streaming site like Kissanime, but with a more professional looking layout. Back then they just uploaded fansubs and stuff. So, that doesn't have any bearing on this discussion, unfortunately.
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>>152961288
>Name one country
Australia.
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>>152961300
Oh, this is fucking rich coming from the man who runs a torrent site where people can illegally download anime.
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>>152961268
Back then Crunchy was literally just another pirate stream
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>>152961300
>people who do have standards
Not enough memes in CR scripts for you, Daiz?
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>>152961300
>t. the director of nyaa.se anime torrents
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>>152961268
You are blinded by nostalgia because you watched CR as a kid and your brain is telling you something stupid like "when I was a kid everything was better"
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>>152961332
The fuck? No they don't. Most Australians call their mother "YA CUNT"
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>>152961340
The point about standards isn't related specifically to the fact that they were pirates back then, but rather the fact that their quality back then was worse than what they offer for free users today. It was utter garbage. Hell, they even halved the framerates in their encodes on purpose.
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>>152961369
I'll be honest, I thought of oregon trail in 2014 or something and remembered it FHD full color with lifelike graphics
What a shock I got when I downloaded it again to try it out
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>>152961277
I'm not asking for a comparison site, I'm asking for you to give some lines that specifically stand out to you as better so I can understand where you're coming from with this opinion. That's why I only asked for a couple; I don't expect you to pore over the show or anything.

So pick some from that link, I guess. Why do you prefer Doki's subs here?
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>>152961300
And what's so wrong about liking a pirate site? Without sites like that anime wouldn't be as popular. Hell, there are people on /a/ that would have never enjoyed anime as a hobby without them.

In fact what do you call Nyaa then?
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>>152954670
>blue group

anyone who even knows what this means is part of the problem.

i set it to "anime - english translated" and always wonder why the results come out in some shitrainbow of meaningless colors.

it has the group listed in the torrent name for fuck's sake. hang your reputation on your group's name, like a proper human being.

>>152955467

i'll pay you for convenience and predictability. if you can offer a clean, easy, torrent release on a public site on a regular schedule and you accept bitcoin then we are good to go. if you want me to go on usenet or some FTP server or IRC (and i say this as someone who uses and likes IRC), or if you want me to pay attention to somewhere besides the location the thing is posted for information about where/when it's posted, or -- worst of all -- if you're exercising any effort to control where others repost it, then you can absolutely fuck off and die.
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>>152961429
I know the feeling. That happened to me with Mario Kart 64. I seriously could have sworn the racers were 3D, then I played it again. That said, these days I find the 2D on 3D style of that game rather appealing.
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>>152961477
See this post: >>152961318
Ignore Daiz, he just likes to stir up shit by calling people names instead of explaining himself.
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Dont care, I should just learn japanese but Im too fucking lazy to bother with learning how to write. Same goes for everyone else, if you arent just going through your anime phase, you might as well learn Japanese.
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>>152961483
>i set it to "anime - english translated" and always wonder why the results come out in some shitrainbow of meaningless colors.
Just use Shana or TT, it's literally the same thing.
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>>152961477
Again, the problem isn't with the fact that it was a pirate site back then, but rather the fact that the quality was absolute and utter garbage. The fact that you saw no issue with this seems like a pretty clear indication of lack of standards to me.
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>>152961383
>what is video hosting on shoestring budget
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>>152961565
See >>152961506, >>152961429
He almost certainly doesn't remember what it looked like
Fuck's sake I still remember the fights in Eva as like ten times better than they actually were
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>>152954670
>Do fansubbers really have the luxury to be giving each other preferential treatment when they're in danger of dying as it is

They can die. Fansubs were born to cover a necesity. Some people wanted to whatch anime but couldn,'t and some other people who liked anime too wanted to everyone to enjoy it as well, so they began to translate.

That necesity doesn't exist any more, everyone has access to anime so there shouldn't be a problem in fansubing dying.

If eventually we need it again we can just start translating anime again.

What never made sense was the retarded elitisms "muh version is better cause no honorifics" "honorifics are essential you baka gaijin", and people that got into subbing just to get their dick sucked ans just wants their names on credits.
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>>152961483
The colors on Nyaa are actually really helpful aside from blue. For example, orange tells you that it's a reencode. But blue is literally just "This guy is friends with one of the staff so he gets a pretty color on his torrent". It has no reason to be there.
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>>152961595
No excuse for anyone actually using the site back then when you could've just used torrents instead with none of the quality loss of CR's turd-tier re-encoding.
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>>152961611
>Fuck's sake I still remember the fights in Eva as like ten times better than they actually were
That is a poor example. Eva's animation has aged remarkably well.
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>>152961611
Well, if anyone here wants to jog their memory, I actually managed to dig up some comparison shots I made back in the day.

CR in 2008, everyone:

http://diff.pics/HB4j2uryauvm/1
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>>152961565
Why is it bad quality? They were just a pirate site taking from other sites. Essentially they take from other people (i.e. you as an example) and post it in their site.

In fact, since CR was one of the more popular stream sites at the time, it helped fansubbing by making people more interested in anime, and letting more people become interested in fansubbing, in my opinion.
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>>152961798
That brings back memories. I specifically remember checking out Akagi on Crunchyroll and it looked like that. I didn't care at the time because I was out and about back then so I put shit on my iPod and didn't care about quality, but I do remember it. So not everyone's memory is faulty.
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>>152961916
>Why is it bad quality?

Why don't you see for yourself: >>152961798
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>>152961453
Also, just to add, I genuinely do not understand how anyone can see Doki as the better choice in that screenshot. DDY's flows so much better.

It honestly blows my mind that Doki still has so many fans despite being exiled from Nyaa. How do people even FIND them, much less decide they're the better choice?
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>>152961692
My grandma wanted to watch her chinese live action historical dramas and those arent available on torrents. OG Crunchyroll was created by its awesome userbase who uploaded this niche content because it wasn't available anywhere else. It provided a great service in this regard so stop shitting on it as if removing that content was worth the minor uptick in quality. So much fucking content lost to copyright and licenses, its bullshit and I want old CR back.
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>>152961995
those screenshots*
Whoops.
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>>152961998
Crunchyroll going legit was the best thing they ever did. I still have a lot of issues with them today, but they still provide a metric fuckton more value to the community today than they did back when they were just another potato quality pirate streaming site.
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how would you ladies feel if i just subbed every single series instantly in the span of 24 hours without any regard for my well being.
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>>152962080
Who the fuck cares? Crunchyroll will do it faster and better.
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>>152962060
Spoken like a true sellout. I bet you think Youtube being bought by google was for the best as well.
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>>152962114
are you kidding me? they do horrible localized shit at a price. im not saying im great but i know i'd do a better job than CR even on my own.
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>>152961798
>12fps

Lord have mercy. I don't miss it. To be fair, pretty much all anime looked like that around that time. But still CR was good for being the youtube forum of the anime fansub community at the time.

>>152961268
I think a lot of people grew to hate it because they started charging for what used to be free. A lot of people called them sellouts for collabing with google and funimation. Quite honestly I think they're doing a fantastic job bringing anime to the west with speedy subs that aren't localized to death and HQ videos while staying faithful to it's core fanbase. It's just that fags like me refuse to pay for what we're used to getting for free.
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>>152962080
We could start a betting pool on how fast you'd burn out.

>>152962117
I've been saying the same thing for years and I don't see how you could disagree. Whether you watch the first speedsubs out or wait for better quality releases, it has overall improved the situation in all regards.

And Youtube is a pretty decent site overall, and since we've been talking about video quality, it's better than CR in that department too.
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>>152962172
>im not saying im great but i know i'd do a better job than CR even on my own.

Everybody says this but they never do it. Just stop being butthurt CR's getting shekels for something your lazy ass won't do.
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>>152962172
Regardless of how fast you are, Crunchyroll secures deals that let them work on the subs before the show has even aired. You can't do it faster than them.

And I know we're just talking hypothetically here (unless you're a cartel fansubber who's mad about getting called out) but you'd have to offer proof of your capability as a translator after making a claim like that.
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>>152962229
>>152962225
that's iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit i'm going to do this RIGHT NOW. what show should i start off with? i trust your judgement since you're all friends here.
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>>152962185
>that aren't localized to death
Oh, how wrong you are.
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>2017
>fansubs
Haha what the fuck?
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>>152962259
Do that Suzakinishi show that was mentioned earlier as being unsubbed. It's a short so if you can put your money where your mouth is it won't take you long to do.
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>>152962259
Suzukishi, nigga. It's like 20 minutes long total so I want it in 2 hours. Get going.
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>>152961935
Well, CR may have looked worse, but their quality wasn't considered bad back in what, 2006? 2007?

What actually is your argument? Because mine is that CR ultimately helped spread the popularity of anime and hence, gave us more people interested in fansubbing.
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>>152962304
>>152962300
is it ok if i translate hayai as "zippidy zoowap"?
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>>152962304
Helps to spell the title correctly if you're going to request it.
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>>152962344
So as I thought, you're just memeing.
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>>152962346
You know what I meant.
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>>152962320
>their quality wasn't considered bad

Except that the quality was shit even for the time. Take a look at the screenshot comparison again, the first shot is from a fansub release from the same year. The framerate halving that CR did for their streams looked hideous in itself, and you got the absolutely horrible image quality on top of that.

And CR didn't do shit for fansubbing. I can tell you that as someone who was actually involved in fansubbing circles back then.
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>watching anime
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>>152962369
you say that but that would be found easily in a commiesub.
>>152962408
your waifu sucks
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>>152961453
I can't give you any specific lines from some 1-episode comparison I made from a disappointing series 9 months ago.
From those screenshots, I prefer doki cause they're less wordy.
>DDY's flows so much better
I'd say DDY's lines are clunky in comparison.
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>>152962225
I disagree because I dont care about your business bullshit and marketing/exposure to the west, I just care about a metric fuck ton of free content that was stripped away in order for people to become richer than they already are. Content that they didnt create, content that was uploaded by the userbase who were then told "give us money for creating us". Fuck you nigga. Streaming was about accessing content. The content is significantly less than it would be if they didnt go coporate. Streaming is worse than it was 10 years ago, masturbate about bitrates all you want.
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>>152962443
"Free" content.
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>>152962489
More free than it is today.
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>>152962443
>I dont care about your business bullshit and marketing/exposure to the west

But I'm not talking about any of that, I'm talking about the simple fact of subbed anime availability. CR going legit is arguably the best thing to have ever happen in that regard. Any content that was "lost" (most of which you could've most likely gotten via torrenting just fine back then if you knew were to look) is miniscule in comparison to what they've provided over the years since.
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>>152962427
They're less wordy to the extent that they excise meaning. "Less words" doesn't mean "good translation." And like I said, Doki's is just kind of clunky. Those are not natural sentences that a real person would say, they are sentences that an incompetent fansubber with a poor handle on the language would come up with.
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>>152962425
I hate Commie just as much as the next guy but that would absolutely not be one of their subs.

Just stop talking shit about translation when you don't actually know Japanese.
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>>152962504
I guess. Only in terms of anime though which is important, but CR also hosted a lot of content besides anime that is lost to the void forever basically. Its just scummy to bait and switch like that, which is what most start ups do nowadays I get it, but that model of abusing your users to create content, only to cut all of it and ask for 9 bucks a month feels wrong as fuck. Even if it resulted in more subbed anime.

You think anime wouldnt have been as popular/accessible as it is now if CR didnt go legit? I cant say youre wrong, but who knows.
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>>152956927
You can't be faster than instant. CR gets the scripts ahead of air time and have the translation done by the time an episode airs. The fastest sub groups still take 24-48 hours.
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>>152962715
Yeah but that just proves my point, it's a huge factor against all other subbing groups
Honestly those sub groups should just not compete on-air, focus on the ones nobody is subbing, and do the BRs when they come out. I mean I severely doubt anyone waits for FFF's version of Gabbu to watch it even if they're relatively fast.

>>152962671
Who really cares about anime being "popular" in the west though?
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>>152962671
>You think anime wouldnt have been as popular/accessible as it is now if CR didnt go legit?

Yeah, definitely. Less shows would overall get subbed, and they'd get subbed slower. That's just how it goes when you're doing something as a hobby in your free time vs actually being paid for it and getting the materials in advance of airing.
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>>152962788
Exactly, the only people who care are the people who make money off it. Thats why they want to restrict content unless they can profit from it. Fair enough, thats how the world works etc. But lets not kid ourselves that its better this way. Theres a difference between accepting reality and making excuses for it. Who cares if some seasonal shit isnt fansubbed? Subs dont even matter for half of them really. Sub the shit CR doesnt host, which is A LOT.
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>>152962828
Good riddance to fansubbers.
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>>152955294
I submited my self to the will of God And Mighty Ruler Crunchyroll, after they picked up Detective Conan.

Fansubers for 20 years coudnt provide good and intime subs for it, CR did. So Fansubbers can now fuck off.
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>>152962997
>Sub the shit CR doesnt host, which is A LOT.
This
And honestly I don't think people are going to do a significantly better job subbing something like, say, Konosuba S2 than CR anyway, it's a waste of time and effort. If you want to do it do the BRs. Nobody is going to waste time downloading fansubs three days late after all the threads have passed.
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>>152959576
Has CR ever tried to do anything to stop HS from ripping all their shows? Considering that they were production staff on Kiznaiver and Luluco, I would think they would take a harder stance on it.
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>>152955294
This

Only if we had this for manga too
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>>152963112
How do you stop HS from ripping your shit though, literally anyone with a subscription can do it.
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>>152962997
>>152963106
What are the A LOT of things Crunchyroll doesn't host? I cannot think of a single show they aren't subbing this season.
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>>152963141
Isn't the manga for this on point anyway? It lagged for a while but I'm pretty sure we're up to date now
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>>152963144
It's impossible to stop the actual process of ripping, however they could try to get HS or Nyaa taken down. That's what he means.

I assume they don't find it worth the effort.
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>>152963191
Maybe HS is CR.
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>>152963181
Yeah
but there was like a half year gab between the chapters

Id kill for new vasenka subs though
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>>152963181
No idea why he wants to read the fucking manga anyway when there's a light novel. It's like choosing silver over gold.

That's what we need. Crunchyroll for light novels.
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>>152963228
Nip literature is fucking horrible. I could read so many real books instead of an novel about some dude becoming a loli in WW1 europe.
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>>152963228
>Crunchyroll for Light Novels
It's called Yen Press :^))))))))))))
I honestly wouldn't mind as long as they didn't try shutting down people whose translations are like ten volumes ahead already and killing all interest. More options don't hurt. That being said, they DO shut down people who are ten volumes ahead.
Also because in this case, the manga has great art and the LN is honestly a huge chore to read through, like there are sections of pseudointellectual slop that sound like he read wikipedia and that's it.
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is h*rkz posting desuarchive screencaps pretending >she doesn't lurk yet
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These official subs are nothing if there were no rippers to rip and upload those to trackers for free.
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>>152963292
>like there are sections of pseudointellectual slop that sound like he read wikipedia and that's it.
That sounds hilarious, got any specific examples?
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>>152963263
>LNs are representative of the entire country's literature
Dumbshit.
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>>152963383
I mean just the entire section on signalling theory for one and referencing the stanford prison experiment to write like ten pages about how humans have a role in society and all that
I mean I think it was on purpose because Tanya is literally a pseudointellectual fedoratipping psychopath but yeah
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>>152963357
gay faglord can't even reply to us anonymously, nobody should give a fuck about the faggot Herkz.
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>>152963357
Herkz is a prick. He keeps acting like he's "above" 4chan yet every time his name is mentioned he always seems to see the post and make a whiny tweet about it. It's like he literally goes into the archives daily and searches his name.

Then again, I suppose people who do that can become president, so who knows. 4D chess, am I right?
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>>152963414
Nip litterature is horrible though.
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>>152963414
Its not like the rest is any better. Asians cant write for shit
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>>152963362
Any asshole can rip. If narcissistic bastards like Jaka throw a shitfit and quit, someone will instantly pop up to take their place.
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>>152963499
Chinese litterature is VERY good - both old and modern one. The LNs are as retarded as japanese and korean though if not worse.
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>>152963499
I doubt you can name one example of Japanese literature you've read.
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>>152963710
Nice argument faggot

Even if I gave you a list, you would just backpedal. There is a reason why jap shit isnt popular around the world as European literature.
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>>152963846
I don't even need a list. I want you to name a single one so that you don't look like you're completely full of shit.
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>>152963846
American / European Literature is not particularly popular outside of its cultural sphere. It simply so happens that it has an absolutely stupendous cultural sphere because of its primacy during the first era of worldwide dominance.
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>>152963463
>liberal faggot
>hates fansubbing
wow didn't see that coming
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>>152964155
Actually, I like Trump. But I don't like his Twitter tantrums.

Furthermore Herkz is liberal and transgender so that kind of kills your point.
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>>152964239
>kills your point
Do you think H*rkz likes fansubbing or likes getting credit for fansubbing?
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>>152964288
Quote my whole post or don't respond to me at all, you piece of shit.
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>>152964384
What? How new are you?
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>>152964432
I'm not going to converse with some cocky shithead who partially quotes posts.
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>>152964737
alright you need to lurk more, friend.
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>>152964780
I'll do whatever the fuck I want, and that includes not responding to you, kid.
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>>152964881
t. Alex Grandi
not him btw
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>>152964881
lurk for 2 years before posting
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>>152964923
How about I lurk for zero years because I don't give a damn about your fucking orders? Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.
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>>152954670
I just use the following user CSS (with Stylish) to reduce the faggotry on NT:

@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document domain("nyaa.se"),domain("nyaa.eu") {

.avatarstaff {
float: left;
max-height: 50px;
max-width: 50px;
}

.aplus {
background-color: #98D9A8;
}
}

First style reduces avatar sizes for mods (which are 300x300 for epeen by default), second one gives all A+ stuff the same color as verified torrents. Alternatively you can make both of them white.
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>>152955393
I cast Demon Skull
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>>152965202
#4d3219 is a superior color for that, it gets the point across better.
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>>152965202
Thanks, this is pretty useful. Although I personally just use Element Hiding Helper to hide comments completely because when I left them visible I noticed they were always shit.

The avatar sizes are seriously one of the most annoying things I have ever seen. They are so fucking obnoxiously large. How big does a guy's ego have to be to come up with that idea?
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Not a single person in commie knows anything about politics.
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>>152967961
Is that really a surprise? Nobody with a brain would associate themselves with communism.
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>>152957446
>autistic fixes
Nothing is more autistic than making a changelog with timestamps for subtitles. That guy has yet to attain such levels of nitpickery.
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