Dragon Ball Super

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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis "the wise"? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic he could save others from death, but not himself.

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Fresh off the press.

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With Frost returning for the universal tournament, will the major inconsistency in his character be addressed in the anime/manga?

>>152634215
I bet he will be a hero and redeem himself winning the tournament, that's why he's fighting.

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>>152634168
And he was a good friend.

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KAKAROT!!!

I want that fat stupid Teletubby slut to sit on my face all tournament long

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>>152634211
SHEEEEIT

>>152634215
I hope Frost stays fucked off. They ruined what his character could have been by forcing him to be an edgelord and bringing him back just for some ham-handed attempt at redemption would make him even worse.

>>152634182
I like how Vegeta looks tired in the anime.

Reminder

There's a SSG in Universe 7, but there's not in Universe 6, just like there's a LSS in Universe 6, but there's not in Universe 7.

Also even if they confirm there's a legendary one in Universe 7, Toriyama could create a new character to be the canon LSS.

If you can't prove there's a LSS in Universe 7, and it's none other than Broly, your "Broly is canon" bullshit is just headcanon

>>152634313
He has already been shown in the teaser, so he's back.

>>152634182
Oh come on is this real? Fucking animators they should be thrown to the pits of hell for this

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>>152634341
Goddamn it.

>>152634360
>animation
>still frame
>being this retarded

>>152634341
>>152634313
>>152634248
>>152634215
He seems to be better in the manga version. In the anime he was more of an evil guy

>>152634360
>Animation sweatshop
So you want them to get a vacation

>>152634398
Drawings ok

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>>152634313
Agreed, he already has a reason to be there, they don't need to force a redemption story on him

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>>152634432
Was that so hard anon?

Here, have a sexy 18.

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>Perfect setup for a surprise attack
>Let's stab the guy who doesn't die when he gets killed

Bravo trunks, will you ever not be a disappointment?

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>Teleports behind zamasu and stabs him
nothin personnel kid

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Have a ranfan I did for a commission.

>>152634432
You said nothing wrong don't concede to that dumbass.

>>152634402
He still was a lazy cheating jerk in the manga, just without the "false hero/space pirate" backstory that made him an actual villain in the anime (in the manga, he cheated because there was no prize promised for winning the tournament, so he just wanted to make it end quickly).

If he's going to return again, I hope they make him more heroic though since at least it'd make him stand out from Freeza.

>>152634402
The manga just skipped the backstory, he's still a 2-faced scumbag.

>>152634480
>shit writing the character
Better be talking about Zamasu

>>152634479
Ultimately it's a plot thing, but the only way they could probably justify this is that if he wasn't able to kill Black, Zamasu would heal him and Black would just become stronger.

I don't know though, if Trunks got a good stab in on Black's head, Black would be done for.

>>152634536
DELETE THIS

>>152634536
Honestly, both fit the bill.

>>152634487
Hot.

>>152634479
Zamasu can paralyze Trunks, anon, he's dangerous too.

>>152634502
>bitches about animation while referencing a still frame
>calls someone else a dumbass
What a fucking retard.

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>>152634558
It's pretty funny.
If he'd done exactly this, except stabbing black instead and punching Zamasu away, Black would have bled to death in seconds and zamasu would be powerless to help.

Not to mention the whole "screaming during a surprise attack".

>>152634575
>bitches about animation
No he didn't retard. He was referring to the "animators" not the animation as in the people who drew it. Fucking retard.

>>152634480
>thinks of a great strategy with his glorious mind as he's an experienced fighter and positions himself behind his enemy with supressed ki to stab his enemy

>>152634329
>There's a SSG in Universe 7, but there's not in Universe 6
SSG is a ritual. There doesn't have to be one, and anybody can become a SSG as long as they have 6 Saiyans, and Planet Salad is overflowing with Saiyans.

>just like there's a LSS in Universe 6, but there's not in Universe 7
LSSJ is a genetic exclusive transformation, it's a legend. There is one in U7, we just haven't met it yet.

>>152634627
>He was referring to the "animators" not the animation as in the people who drew it
Yes, he was bitching about animation in response to seeing a still frame. Boy you're fucking stupid. Can you even dress yourself? Don't post again.

>>152634621
>Black would have bled to death in seconds
Like Ginyu Goku did right?

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>>152634634
>his enemy, which is also immortal

>>152634621
Zamasu can heal like Kibito.

>>152634566
Black and Zamasu? Yeah sure.

>>152634621
>Black would have bled to death in seconds
If Vegeta can survive a minute with his heart pierced by Freeza's death beam, Black can survive until Zamasu heals him
Also we don't know if Black can be seriously hurted by Trunks (because he's not Goku, he doesn't low his power when isn't fighting)

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>>152634536
>Better be talking about Zamasu

>>152634717
>can be seriously hurted
>he doesn't low his power
t. juan marquez

>>152634168
You know it amazes me that there are people who don't catch on that Palpatine was the apprentice.

>>152634818
Star Wars is trash, it doesn't matter.

>everyone hates trunks now
Why?

>>152634621
>"screaming during a surprise attack"
Worked against Frieza.

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>>152634479
>Let's stab the guy that can teleport objects as shown in pic related meaning Trunks' sword is a possible target,can cause paralysis and heal people
Yeah seems like a good idea to be honest. Also while sticking a sword in him doesn't kill him, it does make him fairly immobile.

>>152634839
>He says in a Super thread
>inb4 'Super is better than Star Wars'

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The long lost God of Destruction and her angel attendant.

>>152634871
Because his character in the Trunks arc was written like Mary Sue dogshit.

>>152634909
>S-Star Wars isn't s-shit
>There are things s-shittier
>T-that means it's g-good
Take your dogshit generic fantasy in space nonsense to /tv/

>>152634871
>Why?
Those are just butthurt Vegetto/Gogetafags.

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Never mind all that I just watched episode 68 and I don't even know what the fuck is going on anymore
>Wasting the first wish on Pan because what the fuck are Senzus am I right?
>All those other assholes thinking their SHIT is more important than the life of three friends
>C18 to fucking stupid to just ask Krillin what he wants, Trunks and Goten being spoiled little cunts, Roshi and Oolong being especially retarded today
>Then Bulma shows up and calls Roshi some fucking whores no this is not a joke yes this really happened she somehow has the whore number on speed dial too, doesn't even have to mention her location
>oh yes Roshi flew in ON A FUCKING TURTLE

Is this actually staying this dumb the next few episodes? Because it feels like I'm watching Dragon Ball getting raped and I need to know if it gets any worse than this

>>152634969
>Because his character in the Trunks arc was written like Mary Sue dogshit.
That's anime Trunks not manga Trunks.

>>152635015
I dunno why people hate him in the manga, there really isn't much to go on as of yet. They're probably just carrying over their hatred of anime Sue.

>>152635044
There's no reason for the hate. These guys just can't get over the ending of the anime.

>>152635006
This episode was kinda dark when you think about it. All your favourite characters being spoiled little cunts for no fucking reason when Goku wants to do something actually nice.

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Manga Trunks best Trunks

Applicable to every DB series

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>>152635155
I agree anon

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Dammit Whis.

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>This assblasted 10 yo trunksuefag can't stop crying because not everyone likes his shit tier self-insert character
People can have different opinions anon-chan, not everyone will eat the same shit you eat and like it.

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>>152635285

>Trunks punching SSJR Black in his regular SSJ2 form in the manga

The fuck? And people said the manga powerlevels were better.

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>>152635219
>>152635285
>>152635366
Please Toyotaro.

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>>152635366
>>152635285

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>>152635006
>Roshi flew in ON A FUCKING TURTLE

Not unusual for him.

>>152634670
Ginyu didn't mortally wound himself, he only wanted to slow goku down. Besides, his body isn't human, for all you know he has his appendix in his chest.

>>152634706
Hence why you punch him away to stop him from doing so.

>>152634717
Zamasu isn't as strong as black, Trunks could hold him off for at least a minute. In the meantime, Black would be defenseless and bleeding on the floor, even Mai might be able to kill him in that state.
>Also we don't know if Black can be seriously hurted by Trunks
We know for sure Zamasu can't be hurt by trunks, though. Which is therefore smarter to stab?

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>>152635392
>Piccolo kicking Final Form Freeza in the manga
The fuck? I don't know what sneak attacks are!!!

>>152635473
>his body isn't human
And Goku's is?

>>152635473
>Ginyu didn't mortally wound himself,
And?

>his body isn't human,
Same with Goku.

>>152634716
All three, then. Black, Zamasu AND Super's Future trunks.

>>152634884
It doesn't matter if he teleports trunk's sword as long as it's already stabbed through Black's chest. Regardless, stabbing him when it is known it wouldn't even hurt him is a waste of a stab.

Maybe Zamasu could have saved black, but it would have been actually dangerous for them. Instead, stabbing the guy you can't kill and punching the guy you can't beat, a pretty damn stupid plan.

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>>152635485

>>152634529
We don't know that

>>152635334
>This assblasted 10 yo Trunks hater can't stop crying because not everyone mindlessly hates Trunks because the parrots on /a/ tell them to
People can have different opinions anon-chan, not everyone will bleat the same hivemind opinions you do and believe it.

>>152635567
>Gohan was faster that Recoome's ki blast

>>152635522
It is close enough to it, yes. Vegeta died from a heart wound.

>>152635523
>And?
And a mortally wounded Black would have died in minutes or seconds, whereas a non-mortally wounded Ginyu could hold on indefinitely. The goal here should be to kill black, because Zamasu can't die. Do I really have to spell this out for you?

>>152635392
>manga
>Trunks appears and punch Black throwing it

>anime
>Trunks stops Black's ki blade... then he increase his aura, then they punch each other some seconds and THEN Trunks kicks Black throwing it

Unlike Toei, Toyotaro understand what a "surprise attack" is, that's all

>>152635557
>Super's Future trunks.
Ah you're one of those faggots.

>It doesn't matter if he teleports trunk's sword as long as it's already stabbed through Black's chest.
Actually it does since Trunks was closer to Zamasu than Black, if he went past Zamasu to go for Black he would have lost the element of surprise and his sword.

>Regardless, stabbing him when it is known it wouldn't even hurt him is a waste of a stab.
Nope, see >>152635557
>Also while sticking a sword in him doesn't kill him, it does make him fairly immobile.

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>>152635429
>>152635366
>>152635155
>>152635219
Cute!

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>>152635715

>>152635673
>And a mortally wounded Black would have died in minutes or seconds
You mean like Goku who got lasered in the heart?

>>152635715
Cuckjobto is indeed a pathetic cuck who jobs constantly, but I think he and SS4 Gogeta would charge each other and defuse before any punches made contact.

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>>152634621
>Black would have bled to death in seconds
You must be new here.

>>152635701
>Actually it does since Trunks was closer to Zamasu than Black

It was a surprise attack, retard. He had all the time he needed to position himself properly. They were literally right next to each other, too.

>it does make him fairly immobile.
So? Immobilizing the immortal god while you attempt to punch the mortal you can't outpunch? What is the point? Zamasu is back on his feet in moments while Black punches the shit out of trunks.

In the opposite scenario, Black would be bleeding out on the floor dying while trunks would be beating Zamasu to a pulp, or at least stalling him enough for Black to die.

There's no way you can pretend that what trunks did was smarter. You can't be this much of an apologist.

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There's 120 combatants in this tournament. 12 universes with 10 fighter teams.
I swear if they do a normal tournament structure it will be the most boring shit imaginable. So many potential interesting fights will be wasted just so we can see everyone but Goku and Vegeta job.
Just make it a free for all in a massive open space like a planet (probably get the angels to make it like how carps made the U6/7 tournament arena so there's no Frieza-level "destroy the planet and win" shenanigans), that way even the minor characters like Tien and the Androids can have good fights with foes of comparable power from other universes, since not everyone is a SAB/Hit tier monster. If they job in later stages to the last remaining strongest foes that's fine, as long as they get SOMETHING beforehand.

>>152635485
>>152635686
>Toyocucks still trying to justify inconsistencies

>>152635773
>You mean like Goku who got lasered in the heart?
What about it, wasn't he healed? Because vegeta definitely died from getting lasered.

>>152635813
Look, even if we accept the plot would have allowed black to survive the stab, it doesn't change the fact that from Trunk's perspective, it's bugfucking retarded to stab the man who doesn't die and try to punch the guy you can't beat, instead of stabbing the guy who can die while you punch away the guy who could heal him.

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>>152634138

I want them to win too

>>152635870
Don't try to turn this into a fucking manga vs anime thread again or I'll fucking murder you

>>152635715
Gogeta can't actually defeat Vegito. Because Gogeta doesn't exist and never will exist. Movies, GT, and games arent canon ;^)

>>152635892
Just ignore any retard who tries to start this shit.

>>152635857
I really hope it's a team format, with 2 characters per battle. That way we can see some 17/18 combo stuff.

>>152635918
>>152635892

Not that guy, but he was rightly calling manga apologists for being apologists.
He didn't even mention the anime.

So what's the official canon as of now?

>>152635857
Honestly that's the only way to justify choices like Roshi on the team (from a creators standpoint, not the characters). Because everyone KNOWS Roshi is leagues below everyone else on the team. But he's still much stronger than the average mortal in the seventh universe. So he can fight against people his level from the other worlds, just not the Goku and Vegeta tier foes. And so we don't have to repeat the universe 6 tournament snorefest of Goku and Vegeta effortlessly jobbing every foe until the one on their level (Hit).

>>152634627
You're an actual retard, aren't you? Surprised you can manage to spell half your words properly, must be phone posting when you're not busy trying to eat the damn thing.

>>152635982
Roshi is there because people like him and Super doesn't care about keeping power levels consistent. There isn't really any use to having him, unless he's somehow going to turn into the team strategist or something.

>>152635962
Anyone who spouts dumb shit like "Toyocucks" or "Toeishills" is trying to ruin the thread.

>>152635980
DB manga (all the way from pilaf arc to Buu), then Yo! Son Goku and his Friends Return, then DB Super anime/manga tentatively. Neither one is made DIRECTLY by toriyama, just his input, so both can be considered their own canon.
Movies (besides kind of BoG and RF), specials, and GT are noncanon.

>>152636007
He's right though, you're just making yourself look like an idiot. Complaining about the animation in a still is stupid, complaining about the people who drew it (i.e, the animators) is perfectly logical.

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>tfw The Backyardigans version of the Gods of Destruction look way better than the official designs

Fuck you Toei, you had one job

>>152636041
Maybe, but he didn't bring up the anime, you did.
And besides, Toyo does have a pretty dedicated defense force here on /a/.

>>152636050
Should also mention, the epilogue of Dragon Ball (10 years post-Buu meeting Uub) is currently canon, but has an incredibly high likelihood of being at least partially retconned because of the power increases Super introduced.

>>152635815
>It was a surprise attack, retard.
I know, hence why I said
>he would have lost the element of surprise
can't you read or something?

>He had all the time he needed to position himself properly
No, Mai a regular human was in front of two god tier bad guys and could have been killed at any moment. Pay attention.

>They were literally right next to each other, too.
Yeah and like I said Zamasu was closer and Black was farther away.

>So? Immobilizing the immortal god while you attempt to punch the mortal you can't outpunch? What is the point?
Again, pay attention he's paying time for Goku and Vegeta to escape.

>In the opposite scenario
We have a paralyzed Trunks and a new Zenkai opportunity for Black and that's assuming Trunks can do any major damage to Black.

>>152636083

Those look horrible. Freeza henchmen tier.

>>152636050
Are these current "filler" anime episodes canon?

Which is more canon, BoG/RoF movies or BoG/RoF arcs?

>>152636083
>thinking this looks good AT ALL
Holy fuck those designs are blindingly ugly. The gods we got are way better except maybe the clown. Take your shitty opinions and meme leaks elsewhere.

>>152634762
>When you realize how shit Shin was because of Zamasu

Like fuck man, all you had to do was provide support

>>152636083
These look like shit and you're a retard.

>>152635880
>What about it, wasn't he healed?
Yeah afterwards but you said Black would die in seconds, you backpedaling?

>>152636110
Yes. Technically they aren't "filler" episodes at all- the original anime's filler was material not in the original source material, hence it being filler. But now the anime is the primary material and releases first. It isn't filler anymore, it's just slice-of-life sidestories.

>>152636084
No, I didn't. That was another anon.
Anyway, stop defending people who are trying to start retarded arguments that will get nowhere and that most people here don't care about.

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Wow i didn't knew this. Thats actually pretty neat

>>152636110
As for theories vs arcs, the arcs are more canon. The movies are unquestionably better, and you'll get the same thing out of them besides the location of bulma's party and some of Frieza's henchmen (and the return of Ginyu), but otherwise the movies will give you the same experience without the rushed animation of the first two arcs.

>>152636213
Here anon. It's already translated.

https://mangastream.com/r/dragon_ball_super/020/3970/1

>>152636101
>>he would have lost the element of surprise

No he wouldn't have. First attack was a sneak attack, and he chose to attack the guy he couldn't hurt instead of the guy he could, despite them being basically right next to each other.

>No, Mai a regular human was in front of two god tier bad guys and could have been killed at any moment
They were set up before the gods even showed up, you imbecile. It was an AMBUSH.

>Yeah and like I said Zamasu was closer and Black was farther away.
Less than a meter apart, and trunks had a lot of time to position himself from when they showed up to when mai revealed herself. Nothing that would have affected his ambush.

>Again, pay attention he's paying time for Goku and Vegeta to escape
Yeah, it's clear he wasn't actually trying to kill them but instead be a plot device, hence why it's a poorly planned scene that clearly only happens for narrative purposes, the characters don't act like they're actually trying to win.

>We have a paralyzed Trunks
If black couldn't react in time to stop trunks, neither could Zamasu. And if he was afraid of hurting black, he wouldn't have attacked him. Besides, they don't need trunks to do Zenkai, they were literally doing it by themselves before the saiyans showed up, it's said in the chapter.

Toyoshills are bigger apologists than toriyama ever got, it's kind of amazing.

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>>152636213
Goku and Vegeta can't get more Zenkai's. NICE

>>152636218
>besides the location of bulma's party and some of Frieza's henchmen (and the return of Ginyu)
You forget the Trunks x Mai stuff from the movies, also I prefered Vegeta dancing bingo in the movie rather than he bringing a big fish and cooking.

>>152636154
I said minutes or seconds, what's you point? Besides, Goku got hit by a thin laser, he didn't have a 7-inch wide blade thrust though his thorax.

Fact is Black could have died if trunks succeeded in stalling zamasu, whereas instead he chose the least effective route where he had no chance of hurting either.

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>>152635870
>toeishills still trying to push "inconsistencies"

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>>152635880
Only retard here is you senpai, Zamasu has all kinds of hax powers. Trunks dealing with him first is fine. Besides your implying that DB characters need weapons pic related if Trunks was strong enough to damage Black then using a sword or not wouldn't matter.

>>152636206
Stop defending noticeable, if minor problems with the manga if you don't care, then.

>>152636128
>except maybe the clown
Except he's the best one. The angel too.

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>>152636309
>minutes
So Zamasu would just heal him retard.

>Besides, Goku got hit by a thin laser
Implying that matters when it was through his fucking heart.

>Fact is Black could have died
Pic related

I hope the art is consistent in this arc. The animation has improved a lot lately but the art is still mostly offmodel and bad

>>152636330
you're*

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I drew some Gowasu X Ganesha. I feel like it's going to be a fan favorite ship.

>>152635980
>'DRAGON BALL - (minus)' special manga chapter
>'JACO The Galactic Patrolman' manga series
>'DRAGON BALL' manga series (chapters 001-517)
>'DRAGON BALL Yo! Son Goku and his friends return!' special manga chapters
>'DRAGON BALL SUPER' manga series
>'DRAGON BALL' manga series (chapters 518-519)

>>152636330
He didn't "deal" with him at all. He literally did something that couldn't hurt him, so he could try to punch someone he couldn't beat, and end up with BOTH of them on his ass. He wasted his surprise attack and the one chance he had to hurt black.

And if trunk's weapon wasn't useful, he wouldn't use it.

>>152634453
How did Krillin get that? Not only did he marry her, but she's completely devoted to him

>>152636415
So you're just going to pretend black can't die for the sake of shitposting, huh? Pretty sad when you have to abandon the pretense of a logical argument so you can dodge the point.

>>152636444
so what about resurrection F

The only canon is the original manga, all these derivative works are only partially made by toriyama, it's not even known how much of it is his.

>>152636444
You forgot the Resurrection 'F' special. But according to that, you have to watch the movie to see how it ends.

>>152636433
The animation hasn't improved, it's still awful with some short sequences that are okay.

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If she becomes a semi-mainstay character, I wonder if this'll happen at some point.

>>152636477
He was standing right in front of her, with a button that would save the world at the cost of her life, and he destroyed it rather than press it

She's paying it back in full

>>152636528
You can watch the non canon version of the story.

>where's the canon one?
Not every canon story have its own specials/series. Is like ask for the special/series where Tao Pai Pai killed Satan's master*. There's not.


*yes, that happened, according to Toriyama

>>152636606
>legendary super saiyan god super saiyan

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>>152636628
>where's the canon one?

>>152636572
Manga special is more consistent than the movie (not Shisami > Piccolo) but isn't canon because can't be canon. The special follows movies' continuity with Goku absorbing SSG power, but in the current manga continuity, Goku can't use that power in base form, he can use SSG at will instead

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>>152636680
So what about when it tells you to watch the movie

>>152636334
I'm not defending anything, I don't care about any of this shit. I just don't want any more shit fling.

>>152635110
It's been like that since the beginning. Everyone is a selfish asshole about the dragon balls while Goku wants to bring someone back to life.

>>152636722
The overused of 3D killed the movie for me

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>>152636833
I agree, Battle of Gods did fine with 3D, but RoF overdid it

>>152636722
Also what about "beyond god" Goku

>>152635464
>>152635464
Gamera should show up more times with Roshi.

>>152636944
I forgot about that shit

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>>152636466
>He didn't "deal" with him at all.
Seeing as how Zamasu became a non factor with Trunks' sword stuck in him I would have to disagree.

>And if trunk's weapon wasn't useful, he wouldn't use it.
He was able to kill 17,18 and Cell without it. It's there for some variety in fighting, stop being retarded.

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I don't suppose the RoF manga has ever been released in english physically?

I'd love it for collection sake

>>152636510
>So you're just going to pretend black can't die for the sake of shitposting, huh?
Any proof to support your headcanon?

>>152637112
>Seeing as how Zamasu became a non factor
Limited panel space. We've seen what happens to Zamasu when stabbed in this very chapter. It doesn't stop him in any way. He didn't have to do anything, trunks wasn't a threat after he wasted his surprise attack.

>>152637112
>He was able to kill 17,18 and Cell without it.
So? He was able to kill frieza with it, and he can stab a Kaioshin with it. It gives him longer reach and allows him to slice things and pierce them easier. He could have used it to stab through black, but wasted the chance, for no benefit, because Black and Zamasu aren't supposed to be in danger yet. It was a plot-driven dumbass move.

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>Zeno ask to destroy a planet
>don't
CALL THE COPS

>>152634138
What if Gowasu used the Time Ring to travel to another timeline to bring a Zamasu?

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>mfw special manga chapters retelling RoF special manga
>Gohan never loose his Ultimate form
>still no Tagoma/Shisami stronger than Piccolo
>SSG Goku vs Mastered Freeza

So Manga Black and Zamasu plan to fight Beerus. They know where Goku and Vegeta came from, they know Beerus killed Zamasu, and they don't seem bothered at all, saying it'll be easy to conquer their world

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>>152637318
>Limited panel space
Pic related Zamau wasn't able to interfere with Goku escaping or Trunks getting the jump on Black. He was a non factor.

>>152637752
Just kill Shin, problem solved.

>>152637191
>claims Black can't die
>calls someone else out on headcanon
wew lad.

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>>152637752
Well, they could have Zamasu distract Whis and Beerus while Black goes and kills Shin

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>Zamasu uses the time rings to scope out all the the other timelines

Why didn't he just recruit all the other versions of himself

>>152637820
>>152637836
Wouldn't work, Beerus is aware they know. He and Whis would keep Shin near him at all times.
Plus, you need Zamasu with Black at all times to stop him from getting OHKO'd, since that's exactly what Beerus would try to do since he knows Black will powerup if he survives anything

>>152634529

No he's way less generic badguy in the manga.

In the manga he uses the poison because there was no point to the fighting as far as he was concerned and just wanted to get it over with. He doesn't talk about slaughtering or murdering people at all and once he's found out he even tries to fight vegeta fairly unlike in the anime

>>152637878
Maybe other Zamasus weren't autists and said "fuck off retard"

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>>152637318
>So? He was able to kill frieza with it
One person compared to three good job anon. Hell four counting King Cold, speaking of which your stupidly is kind of reminiscent of him.

>>152637910
I think they'd have 0 chance, Zamasu wouldn't be able to reverse Hakai

>>152637947
>Zamasu
>not an autist

>>152637990
Maybe he's at a level where Beerus can't one shot him without nuking the planet. Beerus couldn't one shot SSG Goku since he found Goku as a worthy opponent, and these dudes are stomping SSBs.

>>152637878
Black killed a Kaioshin to recruit Zamasu, if they want more of them, more Kaioshin will die. They probably prefer kill each Kaioshin when they begin to conquer their respectives timeline.
Or maybe Future Zamasu doesn't want to share his black big boy with more Zamasus

>>152637878
>yfw Zamasu fused with his alternate versions.

>>152638053
Different worlds. He could have met some nice ningens in those timelines. Maybe he plowed Bulma or something

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>>152638098
>ningen
>nice
Pick one.

>>152636264
>No he wouldn't have. First attack was a sneak attack,

Yes he would have, since he needs to go past Zamasu to get to Black.

>They were set up before the gods even showed up, you imbecile. It was an AMBUSH.
>Yeah and like I said Zamasu was closer and Black was farther away.
Stop being retarded Trunks and Ma hadi no idea how Black and Zamasu would come at them and how they would positions themselves. So Trunks didn't have "a lot of time to position himself"

>hence why it's a poorly planned scene
Nah the scene was fine.

>the characters don't act like they're actually trying to win.
Except they were Goku thought of a method to deal with the immortal Zamasu and Trunks was able to get Goku and Vegeta safely to the past to learn that technique.

>If black couldn't react in time to stop trunks, neither could Zamasu
Says who? Zamasu dodged a punch from SSB Goku and saved Black from a Final Flash from SSB Vegeta. Besides even if Trunks lands a hit on Zamasu he's immortal and with no sword in his chest stopping him, he could easily paralyze Trunks after the fact.


>Besides, they don't need trunks to do Zenkai, they were literally doing it by themselves before the saiyans showed up, it's said in the chapter.
And? How does that mean anything? if Trunks manages to hurt Black that's still a free Zenkai opportunity for Black. Again
>that's assuming Trunks can do any major damage to Black.

>>152638151
ZAMASU

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>>152638247
MATA KISAMA KA GOWASU

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>>152636433
>The animation has improved a lot lately

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>>152638318

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>>152638318
>lately
>you respond with an older episode

>>152638175
Stop responding to this faggot. He does this in every thread, the same copy/pasted posts.
Is it really that hard to ignore him?

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>>152638363

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>>152638363
Finally, I was searching for this webm for a long time

>>152638428
>dat hidden hi
WEW
E
W

>>152638221
>Kaioshinigami

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>>152638367
>an older episode
Nah this is an older episode.

>>152635155
Specially in the original DB

>>152638412
>Dragonball Super apologists somehow think one half way decently animated fight excuses the trainwreck that is 95% of the series

>>152638087
if Black got a harem of Zamasus would they eventually start fighting each other over Black?

>>152638623
I'll answer ur question if u say "hi" to me

>>152638623
Black is not for sexuals you depraved piece of shit ningen.

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>>152638600
>not reading the manga and pretending the anime doesn't exist

>>152638600
>decent
only by DBS standards. Literally every fight in DBZ was done way better than even the best fights in Super, in every fucking way.

>>152638623
They would fuse to be the ultimate fruit boyfriend

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>>152638699
>only by DBS standards
hahahahhaaha

>>152638692
>>152638717
delete your comments right now, faggots.

>>152638600
the anime is pretty good for making "delet this" pictures.

>>152638677
I can say "hi" to you too?

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>>152638729
>Every fight in DBZ was done way better
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>152638744
of course hi anon how are you

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>>152638761
>only Super has bad animation and looks like shit
>DBZ was flawless
FUCKING LMAO

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post QUALITY

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>>152638793
>every fight in DBZ looks better
>all of them
Oh you slay me anon

>DBZ animation

LMAO

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How the fuck did Dodoria get such a cool scene as this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJp2-vQf2o4

>>152638828

Whats wrong with it? It looks fine.

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Super is absolute dogshit guys, DBZ always looked better even on its worst days

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>>152638793

>>152638729
>>152638761
>>152638793
sure Super cancer you can stop sperging off now. You only see pictures like these when you're a massive cherry picking faggot because most of them are only visible for split seconds and the real bad ones are many episodes apart each other most of the time. Super however consists of literally nothing else.

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Every DBZ fight looked better. EVERY ONE, GODDAMN IT.

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>>152638906
Are movies allowed? Good

>Animation director got canned after the Trunks arc for a reason.
Yes, and the sakuga fans on Kanzenshuu are incredibly displeased with the decision.

Link?

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>>152638920
HAHAHA
Keep those nostalgiagoggles on and stay mad, Z babby.
Look how good Z was. Gaze upon its glorious, incredible animation.

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>>152638931

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Reminder that DBZ had flawless animation 100% of the time and Super looks like shit 100% of the time guys

Pic related, it's some of the flawless art from DBZ, the best anime ever made

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>>152638851

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>>152638920
sure anon what ever helps you sleep at night

>>152638938

Meh, I know this is bait but come on. That one particular image is bad but overall the Goku vs Cell fight, in almost every single sequence, looked better than almost fight sequence Super has put out yet.

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>>152638920
Should I continue, or are you going to press the self-destruct button due to the reality incursion?

God this thread reeks of butthurt Toeifags.

>>152638851

That was just the two second long half-assed re-showing of what happened at the end of the previous episode, which was animated much better than that. You can't fool me.

>>152638917
>>152638906
>>152638938
>>152638931
>>152638981
>>152639028
>>152639034
>>152639053
>these faggots take pictures of badly animated scenes to deffend an even worse looking anime made twenty years later
So the scum of this planet has found its way here too I see

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>>152639038
>I know this picture of absolutely garbage animation is bad
>I know there's a separate picture from the same fucking fight that also looks horrible and has been posted
>But this is bait

No, you're right, DBZ never had a single instance of bad choreography, art, or animation. The QUALITY DBZ images being posted are just from fags who have something wrong with their eyes. I suppose they need a pair of these.

>>152639098
That just pulls into question why they didn't reuse that piece of animation rather than make a new, shittier piece

>>152639071
>>152639053
>>152639034
>>152639025
>>152639028

I understand your point, but shouldn't we have much higher expectations in 2016 than we did in the early 90's? There are tons of shows out now that look better than Super, and there shouldn't be considering its cultural pull.

>>152635006
Don´t want to say anything about the topic but:
>Wasting the first wish on Pan because what the fuck are Senzus am I right?
If senzus could heal diseases goku wouldn´t have died in trunks future.
You´re just right about the other things tho

>>152639106
>to deffend
kek all DB anime series are horseshit, you retard

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>>152639106
>being THIS mad that your favorite anime gets called out on looking like dogshit

>>152639109
>>152639053
>>152639028
>>152638981
Literally NOTHING wrong with those. I mean maybe on another scale but still better than ALL of super.

>>152639120

The problem is that during fight sequences in DBZ, the "flow" meme about how individual bad images make a good product when strung together is actually true a lot of the times. In Super, it just looks bad the entire time, still image or animated.

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>>152639144
>weekly anime series produced by Toei
>high expectations

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>>152639144
>There are tons of shows out now that look better than Super,

>>152639146
>kek all DB anime series are horseshit
This is true.

>>152639144
I'm not defending Super, I'm calling out the fucking morons who insist DBZ looked amazing all the time because they haven't seen the show in 10 years and are too scared to face the destruction of their nostalgia to do anything but scream about "in between frames" and how sad it is that we're posting pictures of how terrible the anime looked as if it's somehow a lot of work to Google image search something.

I agree that it's fucking inexcusable for Super to look as shitty as it does.

>>152638981

That was my main issue in the final fight of the Buu Saga, Vegetas faces everytime Kid Buu was chocking him, its like he was enjoying being choked.

>>152639153
It's far from being my favorite anime, stop trying to randomly assume things just so you can post funny little meme pics you humongous retard.

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>>152639144
>shouldn't we have much higher expectations in 2016 than we did in the early 90's?
I agree

>>152639247
>this much anger because your nostalgia is imploding around you
It's hard to admit that DBZ isn't actually the beautifully-animated show of legend that you claim it is, huh anon?

>>152639220
DBZ had its shit moments but every anime has. Its good moments were looking far better than the good ones of Super though.

>>152636606
Hnnnng

>>152639276

Cant deny Mr Satan looks more handsome without the mustache.

But still what a fail by Toei.

>>152639253
>Fucking Pokemon has better animation than Dragon Ball
Dammit Toei

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>>152639219
Dragon Ball Super will never look this good.

>>152639297
>beautifully-animated show of legend
what the fuck are you even talking about? Are you by any chance for real mentally ill? No matter how many bad scenes DBZ had and how fucking bad some of its fights were, they were all still better than the horse shit that is Super. You can live in denial all you want, enjoy your crapfest. Jeez, I wonder how they'll shit on the universal survival arc doesn't matter I'll be here to laugh at it

>>152639253
Man Mega-Sceptile vs Ash-Greninja was literally the best Pokemon fight ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivyQqgUpvKY&t=334s&ab_channel=Drake1112

>>152639430
So that's why Bulma married him!

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I wonder if I missed any of her art.

>>152639403
>people try to upset DBZ fags but every other picture is randomly a very decent one
The fuck are you guys even doing

>>152639425

JoJo Part 3 had more consistant animation than Part 2.

>>152639492
I'm talking about the OPM webm.

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>>152639386
And that's not even the final of the Kalos League. The final was Mega-Charizard vs Ash-Greninja and every frame is so fucking beautiful that hurts

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>>152639439
>being this fucking mad
Holy shit anon, it's just a stupid Chinese cartoon. It's okay for you to enjoy something that looks like garbage. Are you autistic? Do you have anger issues? Have you considered therapy?

>>152639489
That picture is literally the only picture of DBZ QUALITY posted that hasn't actually been QUALITY.

>>152639447
Pokemon feels more dragonball then dragonball super baka

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>>152639430
>Vegeta steals Luffy's Gomu Gomu no Pistol

>>152639525
>I don't even know what to say anymore, better keep calling him mad
Marvelous escape plan anon, keep up the god tier posting.

>>152639447
Never watched pokemon but last time I saw charizard vs blue ninja the dislike bar was off the rough. Do pokemonfags hate over exaggerated battles?

>>152634168
Is that Hit?

>>152639594
>continues pretending that DBZ looks great and has no flaws in its animation or art quality
Keep cranking that nostalgia dial you cock slurping faggot.

>>152639613

Trunks vs Merged Zamasu had better feedback among the fanbase.

Only hardcore fans got mad at Trunks getting his lightsaber and 2 shotting Zamasu.

>>152639613
No, they just hated Greninja losing that battle. Ash had lost against that Charizard twice, and had finally mastered a new transformation after 20+ episodes of build up just for the rematch and in the end... it was all pointless and he just lost again.

>>152639447
Where the fuck do they get the budget to animate this shit? Pokemon tv ratings are horrible lately

>>152639403
Trunks never met reformed 17 didn't he?

>>152639655
>he just lost again.
Isnt that his gimmick?

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>>152639386
I honestly wonder how its budget and how long animators have compares to Dragon Ball

>>152639447
It was, it deserved to be the finale. Pikachu vs Aegislash was also incredible.

>>152639691
People were hoping for change since Sun and Moon doesn't follow the traditional formula, and we didn't know if Sun and Moon would have a league or not.

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GEKKOUGA, MIZU SHURIKEN DA

>>152639657

Merchandise? They are still a juggernaut in 2017.

>>152639649
>literally even spelled out that it has flaws
>"continue pretending that DBZ looks great and has no flaws"
Congratulations, you are truely the biggest retard currently browsing this board, cancer incarnate one could say. Oh and I'll repeat just for you: even though having obvious flaws DBZ is infinetely better than Super

>>152639798
Well at least the pokemon anime gets decent animation.
I dont get why toei is limiting their budget with super. Had they put some money in it this shit would sell bricks instead they gave it to the Philippines

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IKU ZO, ALAN... MIZU SHURIKEN!

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>>152639906
>backpedaling
>damage control
I think you should probably consider killing yourself, Z babby. You probably grew up on dubbed Z and didn't even know what "manga" was while you were screaming about the incredible animation quality to the heavens.

>>152634677
>should have used a smoke grenade

>>152639947
No you're just to retarded to actually read my posts, you're just to buzzy spouting out buzzwords and funny funny memes.

>>152639439
Read this again, you'll notice I never denied any of DBZs flaws. After realizing that please consider putting an end to yourself, you are basically only wasting air at this point

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>>152639985

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>>152639980
>b-but the movies always looked good

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>>152639908
Yeah, hell even if people don't like the changed art style in Sun and Moon at least the animation is still great

>>152640050
>just too buzzy
So angry you can't remember how to speak English, are you?

>I never denied any of DBZ's flaws
Yes, you did start damage controlling and backpedaling because you were being called out on putting Z on a pedestal. Kek, stay mad, faggot. This is your last (You).

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>>152640069
Are you implying something, anon...?

>>152634277
>yfw Brolina's power is maximum because Cabba raped her as a baby.

>>152640076

Basically Naoki Tate animation with just better art.

>>152636477
Two things: Bulma reprogrammed her or he used the dragonballs to reprogram her.

It's not too difficult for anyone to do anything as long as you're friends with Bulma.

>>152640170
Continue these QUALITY posts, I need to fill up my folder to piss off nostalgiafaggots like that one autist who's been sperging out

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>>152640224
You're welcome

>>152640222
I wish I was Bulma's friend.

>>152636477

She already mentioned she liked him because he was a brave warrior.

Besides, she never knew the exact details how Krillin saved her, only he did was pick her up after Cell vomited her.

>>152640208
>mfw one of the Pokemon animators worked on Z
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=14173

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This one is for you, GTfags

>>152640111
>basically confirming to be absolute cancer by using kek and other buzzwords
>to top all that he starts complaining about my english which also confirms he's a douchebag
>Now he keeps samefagging the thread to death with pictures which are still all better than 90% of whole Super

I hope you choke to death while you suck that Super cock, you're just wasting precious recourcess.

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>>152640343

>>152640382
>Super Saiyan Blue 4 Goku

>>152640377
are you people even still trying?

>>152640471
>>152640476
nope, they clearly aren't

http://imgur.com/ugNZg6q

>>152640354
>bitches about buzzwords while using buzzwords
>thinks someone being displeased with shitty grammar makes them a douchebag because he's retarded and it offends him
>implying samefagging when I haven't posted a picture since that final USS Goku image
Livestream your suicide, preferably by shooting yourself. I wish you were standing in front of me so I could beat you.

>>152640539

Nice

>>152640520
>t-this doesn't look b-bad
>being in this much denial

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I guess this was coming sooner or later.

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FUCKING EPISODE 5

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>>152640665
GOD DAMMIT, TOEI

>>152640665
Goddamn, Super is the only DB series that looks like shit. DBZ never had that problem.

Ever.

>>152640647
Imagine that view from below.

>>152634215
They already fucked it up with Frost.
There is litterally nothing they can do to fix that short of saying that he was LYING because...reasons.
Even then it will be stupid.
Frieza should have just stayed a real deal good guy. No LOLNOT REALLY GOOD GUY thing that's so trite and played out.

Even have him outright object to the way that some of his team mates fighting because it's not fair.

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TOEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII