What was the fucking point of this character again?

To make cute noises

>>152556688
Chicken tenders

>>152556688
You're beyond help if you can't figure that out.

>>152557125
>mature seinen anime for mature seinen gentlemen like myself

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She's Okabe's precious friend and his reason to change time so often. She props up Okabe when he wants to give up and allow the future to become a dystopia. She acts as a social lubricant that keeps everyone together and talking to each other. She has the mental age of a child but she's very important.

>>152556688
To make it actually a stake to travel back in time. If no one always died or it was someone MC didn't care about it would make more sense to just ran away and forget about it all.
Why it must be another girl and not the designated heroine though? Possibly writer want the OkabexKurisu relationship to develop between each time loop and not something already existed. Or maybe to reinforce Kurisu as kind and caring person by having her help saving life of a rather unrelated person. Or maybe they just want another girl to make the game qualify as Renai.

Durururu.

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>>152556705

>>152556688
Do you not want to save your pure childhood friend?

>>152557194
>Steins;Gate
>anime
?

Faris and the genderbender dude are even more pointless/filler route.

She was literally the conflict. Without her Okabe wouldn't have any reason to go back in time to save her.

>>152557386
Okabe is the only human who can retain his memories laterally across world lines and Kurisu is the only human who can form a working theory for a time machine. OkaKuri is the only pairing that can ever happen to prevent the future from becoming a dystopia because they're the only two people in the world who can fully understand time travel. There's Maho in S;G 0, but she's Alieri to her Amadeus. It's more than just being harem, although that's obviously a neckbeard magnet.

>>152557522
Ey fuck you I liked the Farris route

>>152557627
well it was better than suzuha's route

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>>152557697

>>152557697
I feel it would have been exceptional if the story continued on in the 70s. Even the true ending tacked on an hour or two of story

>>152558052
ya although they might do a spin off for that; there's a manga series about suzuha in the future working with valkyrie

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>>152557305
>>152556688
The S;G part of the story shows that Mayuri's the raison d'etre to Hououin Kyouma's existence. S;G0 Mayuri knew that there can be no hope without Hououin Kyouma, and she came to terms with that Okabe's love of his life is Makise Kurisu, that Kurisu's only hope rests in Okabe, and that she must do whatever it takes to bring Hououin Kyouma back.

She went back in time with Suzuha on a one-way trip for the sake of her love.

>>152557584
Maho cannot be Kurisu's surrogate. Maho's importance is to define what it means to be "yourself" in the context of S;G0, and then showing that it is possible to lie to the world by not breaking established chain of events.

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>>152558284
Exactly. She's Alieri.

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>>152558396
You confuse the shit out of me by spelling Salieri as Alieri, but whatever, since Kurisu said that
>You are the real Amadeus
to Maho.

>>152556688
>OP
>Not playing S;G and S;G0
>Not listening to radio drama
>Getting spoonfed this much

>less attractive than Kurisu
>less talented
>overall outclassed by Kurisu
>the guy she ends up loving doesn't share her feelings and love Kurisu

Maho can't catch a break

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>>152558488
Woops, I'm just dumb, Salieri. Wasn't it Okabe that says that on the promised sacramento end? Kurisu makes the point that Salieri is a genius in his own right and that Mozart admired him, and so although they are remembered as superior and inferior but in reality they both were Amadeus. Will there ever be anything as well written ever produced ever again?

>>152556688
Dodoroo~

>>152558603
Maho's outclassed by Kurisu academically, but Maho is far better in sociological side of things. For one, her weariness about weaponization of the Amadeus research is something that Kurisu wouldn't fret about, and Maho had a better grasp on the theory of mind than [Kurisu].

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>>152558603
DELETE THIS

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>>152558603
They're both geniuses. Completely incomparable. A better comparison is whose socks are more sniffable

>>152558603
It's more complicated than Okabe not sharing her feelings, since even Maho's well aware that Okabe's love of his life is Kurisu and all the shit that's gone down in those 15 years are about trying to save Kurisu and reach Steins Gate world line. Maho's own sense of inferiority, love, guilt and admiration toward Kurisu are very different to Okabe's feelings toward Kurisu at that.

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>>152556688
She's adorable.

Being the most wonderful girl in the world.

>>152558605
That's the part in 0 that I really appreciate. Okabe never did get to know the Makise Kurisu as a researcher, just as Maho never got to know Makise Kurisu the girl. The events of S;G0 provided that answer for both Okabe and Maho, and that understanding of Kurisu was crucial not only in bonding Okabe and Maho, but also in making both of them willing to fight against causality.

>>152558941
Maho's, because Kurisu only wears extremely lewd pantyhose, not socks.

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>>152559267
d-did it make you cry? not me haha that's gay

>>152559091
>>152556688
She's the Mad Romanticist of Madness.

>>152559386
>/a/
>not gay

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>>152559427
it was only the most well written tragedy and romance story with existential questions posed and answered that i've ever read, it's not like it made me emotional or anything

>>152559386
haha yeah, w-what kind of homo would get teary eyed over that?

>>152556705
This. SingSing stream got better.

>>152557584
>the only human who can form a working theory for a time machine.

but SERN did it first

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>>152559509
not me haha seeing how torn up okabe was and how devastating even a tiny change to the past could be and how two lovers would travel across time and live their worst fears thousands of times just to reunite had no effect on me at all

>>152558756
>flatter than Kurisu
hehueuhehu

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>>152559509
>>152559476
I love Hououin Kyouma too much, no homo.

>>152559588
Good point. Theirs was uncontrollable though.

>>152559588
>working
SERN couldn't make up its mind between 11 theories, and they keep getting
>Human is Dead; Mismatch

>>152557305
>Kurisu basically carried Okabe's ass through all the undoing shit and beyond
>Mayuri was just there, being useless and dying as a plot device
Kurisu best grill. Something I didn't get - why did he have to fool himself in the end? What consequence did that carry?

>>152558941
It's not even debatable, it's clearly stated by everyone.

>>152559012
Maho knows about Okabe and Kurisu4, she still have feelings for him but won't and can't act on them.

>>152559758
Okabe cannot break the established observed chain of events in order to save Kurisu. He must trigger the same set of events that got everything rolling is it had.
Play 0 if you want to find out why it's important to not change any prior observed results in order to change the outcome.

>>152559611
>no blood pumping song in the bg
Those awakenings could've been done better. 0 was butchered from beginning to end(s).

>>152559758
If he didn't fool himself, he would never have sent the first D-Mail without Kurisu dying. Convergence dictates that Okabe freak out at the sight of Kurisu lying dead in a pool of blood and send the first D-Mail but not necessarily that she actually die.

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>>152559758
past okabe needs to think kurisu died so that he sends the very first d-mail which begins the story. Otherwise, SERN completes the time machine and destroys the world; Okabe and Kurisu have to be the only ones to know how time travel works or otherwise world war 3 happens.

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>>152559835
>he didn't pay attention to the story
Maho's entire ED was about how she herself was valued and even Kurisu thought she was the more intelligent of the two, just because they state it doesn't mean it's true; characters can be wrong

>>152559652
SERN's theory of kerr black holes and lifters is exactly what the phonewave and presumably all other time machines work off of though.

They just never manage to figure out how to send things where they want and when they want it and their time machine costs probably millions of dollars a use, whereas the future gadget lab stumbles upon a miraculously cheap and effective way of making kerr black holes that sends things exactly where and when they want it.

>>152559848
Well I have, but either I'm autistic or the game didn't explain it well enough. I remember something like "yadayadadeceive the world, deceive yourself", and that he didn't even fucking react to the text and bright ass image he got in his mind, and just kept on talking to Mayuri's whore friends.

>>152556688
autism.

>>152559967
Makise was more talented. Doesn't mean Maho wasn't a genius either. Her objective is to surpass Kurisu. Just because her route is about her being more confident means that she is more talented. Kurisu was younger and was overshadowing her

>>152559893
That's cool and I get that, but how does that lead over to the Steins gate worldline? Isn't it enough that the paper gets fucked?

>>152559758
Isn't that just because Okabe finds out in 0 that you can fool attractor fields with results that appear similar but not identical?

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>>152560091
ah no, if you remember at the end of the OVA (23 beta) Nakabachi makes off with the paper to russia, though it takes a long time for anything to happen because he's a noob. Also, the theory is on Kurisu's laptop and they get into that in S;G 0

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>>152560091
It'd just converge and still manage to get the paper to the ruskies in some perverse way.

>>152560091

No, because [ZERO SPOILERS:] the theory is saved in Kurisu's external hard drive and Amadeus' memory backup. Even if the paper is destroyed, there are other copies, but as long as Kurisu is alive, she can stop it from leaking.

Kagari was fucking garbage, Amadeus was grossly underused, the sprites were bad, the CGs had glaring quality, the villain is shitty, the phone was useless, too much Suzuha SoL bullshit, Okabe does nothing most of the time, Mother Goose is screwy with the paradox song and the reused movie scenes, B Suzuha was garbo, Maho could've been used better, Moeka was a mindless plot device except in twin, the non-linearity fucks with shit, etc. Why was 0 so bad?

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>>152559893
That's not right. In Beta sans 1.048596, SERN never completes it due to not having Kurisu's expertise and more importantly, WW3 breaking out. SERN can't complete it without Okabe's first D-Mail guaranteeing them Kurisu.

>>152560091
You need Kurisu to live so that she can discredit her father & stop the theory from getting out and the paper to burn so that the Russians, Americans, Stratfor etc don't know that time travel is possible.

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>>152560312
Hmm, yeah you're right aren't you. Suzuha's future where SERN is aided by Kurisu is from the beta attractor field. S;G 0 deals with the other world line.

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>>152560410
I mean alpha. Or do I? Whatever the one that S;G was set in.

>>152560262
Wouldn't convergence kill her the next day or some shit? Plus the laptop was only introduced in 0, so its kind of a semi-plothole if you're looking at just the original. All other worldline transfers make sense, except the last two - Echalon and SERN already know about them, and they just deleted the text in present day, meaning nothing should've changed. As far as the game and show told it, the way D-mails switch worlines is by replacing the current worldline with another that occured as a result of the mail. The last two, again, don't work like that.

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>>152560410
No the SERN dystopia is in Alpha. WW3 is in Beta.

I was promised suffering but we never get a scene where Okaba changes timelines after getting tortured and starts to uncontrolably scream out loud.

>>152560486
>Wouldn't convergence kill her the next day or some shit?
Again, the only events that the Beta attractor field converges on is Okabe seeing Kurisu in a pool of blood and sending the first D-Mail. If Okabe sees her like that, and thinks she's dead, but she *isn't*, then it's still valid by convergence. The only reason that the field also converges on World War III is because WWIII is a direct effect of Kurisu's death. Okabe cheated convergence, basically. it's the same reason Okabe was able to live past 2025 in Promised Rinascimento. He was braindead, and everyone *thought* he was dead, so that was valid by convergence.

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>>152560486
nakabachi still gets off with the paper in the original Kurisu end I think. if not, it was retconned anyway

>>152559971
>>152559989
That's also partly because SERN was running flat against the wall over the issue of data packet size since they could only think in terms of temporal teleportation. Kurisu's work in fully extracting Hippocampus data and then applying this onto memory transfer by telephony was not something that would be easily realized, especially with SERN not privy to Kurisu's breakthrough in this memory data extraction in the first place.

Maho would fully complete the possibilities opened by Kurisu's breakthrough by making a backup of Okabe's mind in January 2011 and then restore the memory files to Okabe in 2036, who then time leaps as he takes his memory repeatedly to his comatose body that's been sitting there since 2025. That's how Okabe was able to cheat death in 2025.

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>>152560633
yep, this guy knows how to deceive the world
>>152560684
And this is why Maho herself is not Salieri, she is Amadeus, same as Kurisu

>>152560486
>Echalon and SERN already know about them, and they just deleted the text in present day, meaning nothing should've changed.

SERN seems to just be really lazy with checking their Echelon feeds and hasn't found out the future gadget lab has discovered time travel. Without that message they never complete their time travel research, meaning Suzuha never goes back, so everything from 1970 onwards has to be changed.

>>152560684
>That's also partly because SERN was running flat against the wall over the issue of data packet size since they could only think in terms of temporal teleportation.

Sending data would be pointless for them since there would be no way to make sure it works. At least jellymen leave traces, a e-mail sent to a time without cellphones or into deep space is useless.

>>152559588
CERN aquired Okabe and Kurisu who was informed by Okabe.
>b-but he only informed her once he got there the timeline couldn't have run like that
Oh really? Then why is 0kabe present during the first conference with Makashima along with Okabe? Check mate atheists.

>>152559848
>observed chain
This fanfiction again
Observation has nothing to do with it. Convergence NEEDED Okabe to see a Kurisu covered in blood. It was ONE case. Convergence can converge on whatever the fuck it wants and it has nothing to do with observed events, chained or otherwise.

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>>152558296
What do you think Suzuhas middle school and highschool life is in the S;G world line?
What will Daru do to all the boys Suzuha pulls

>>152560633
Who explicitly states that? Or is it something the writers pulled out of the gaping maw that is their collective asshole? Cause it sure sounds like it. Also, Kurisu not legit dying somehow manages to switch the worldline? Again, sounds like bullshit.

>>152561033
So basically convergence works in ways that the writers nees it to work. So its actual bullshit.

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>>152561034
I don't think she'd have very much time for schooling. The nukes dropped when she was very young. I should read her manga series.

>>152561065
>Who explicitly states that?
Promised Rinascimento, through how Okabe was revived with 2011 backup to see 2036 when he's a vegetable in 2025.

>>152561065
If "the happening" causes the exact same things to take action while still not actully being "the happening" everything is valid and goes as smooth as dick in to Kurisu

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>>152561135
>writers use plot devices to carry the story
>writers rely on suspension of disbelief

I don't think reading is particularly for you, anon-sama desu wa

>>152561135
You know, it's almost as if it's an element of a fictional universe with it's own set of physical laws or something. In-universe it makes complete sense and it's all logically sound.

>>152561153
>S;G world line
Its weird thinking how Suzuha is what, 2 years old? During Robotics;Notes?
How will her life play out after the the plot of R;N, or will it have any effect at all.
I wonder if A;C takes place in the S;G world line

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>>152561263
Oh yeah, wrong world line. I dunno, weren't people uneducated by design in that worldline? Also, doesn't R;N take place in the Stein's Gate?

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>>152561263
S;G is fictional in A;C. No 1.048596 for that one.

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>>152561327
>>152561263
I hope she had a happy life in the Stein's Gate. Daru is a good papa.

>>152561135
Crash Course:
Divergence is an intra-worldline force. It allows timelines to become unique and seperate from each other creating variation and avoiding all but the most dire paradoxes.
Convergence is an inter-worldline force. It creates points of consistentcy across worldines nullifying certain points of divergence.
Both of these features have only been seen to occur around events that have come to define the worldline causally.
Temporally worldines can be defined as distinct outcomes of an attractor field. Attractor fields, of course, being large centeres of convergent and divergent temporal force which unifies a timelines causality enough that any variation in outcome results in an entirely different physical causality, or as we defined it above, world line.

>>152560287
It's leagues above any other japanese media

>>152559580
Tu-Tu-Tu-TuTuTaRu

One thing I still don't know is who the chick at the end of the closing credits was.

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>>152559580
I love it when singsong makes cute noises

>>152561494
I like it when the assistant makes cute noises.

>>152560633
>Okabe cheated convergence, basically

So what you're telling me is he's an even better hacker than Taru?

>>152556688
the only relatively normal person in a group of crazy people

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she holds the banana.

>>152561616
Is also the least intelligent. Coincidence?

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>>152561568
>tfw u realize AliceXZ is the assisstant

>>152561494
I want to fuck her

>>152561396
To look at it further some key points of divergence are:
Okabe time alteration (any)
Suzuha time alteration (any)
When any of these occur the timeline changes. In the case of a leap the divergence may not change. With a time jump there is a madatory divergence that is infintesimly small to avoid paradox.

Key convergene:
Suzuha's return
Nakabashi's convention
Y2K bug
One of these is not like the others. While nakabashi and Y2K are key attractor fields and hence obviously converge we can see non attractor forces in both alpha and beta suzuha. Across several timelines Suzuha recounts the exact same departure, regardless of timeline alterations. That is to say, regardless of what is changed, if it's within that world line events will ALWAYS have the same Suzuha leave in the same way under the same circumstances.

The difference here is that while Suzu's timeline jump is a defining feature of both worldlines it is not an event that allows for diverging results.

>>152561599
Not really. Okabe discovered this by the insights and efforts of Maho and Daru, while the rest of the lab kept his vegetative body alive.

>>152561135
Time travel doesn't exist in real life, so the writers are free to make up their own arbitrary rules about it. That their rules appeal to notions of karma, fate and things like paradoxes may or may not be intentional since we never get the full story from anyone who studies the universe.

>>152556688
To be emotional support for the cast.
Without her the whole lab would collapse, especially Kyouma

>>152561693
They take a more deterministic view of QM in this story. More similiar to Penrose's interpretation I think.

>>152561672
>her
You got a problem with boys, anon?

>>152560955
What are you trying to say here? That the thoery of black holes was sent to SERN in 1976 by SERN in the future?

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>>152561765
Or did you mean sing-sama

>>152561763
Depends how deep you're talking. On he surface it's deterministic but on the other hand Okabe's 'free will' is capable of changing the outcome.
On the other hand given that the betaline ALWAYS has future okabe visiting his actions are both determined as an individual AND factored for by the timeline.
There's no timetravel in S;G so much as there is one consitent time that reality warp around it.

Besides, every view is deterministic, or it's wrong.

>>152561211
>suspension of disbelief
>technobabble up the wazoo, so its almost scientifically possible
They shouldn't have gone so deep, if that final core part of the story relies on a suspension of disbelief, while everything else is fairly fucking realistic and plausible. The meme magic shouldn't be there.

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>>152561922
There is. Time Leap sends your consciousness back in time. The universe's physical objects may not move through time in a time leap, but your consciousness does.

>>152561662
tip your fedora

Saipaco didn't respond to the email so no new lewds of Kurisu I suppose

>>152561811
Same thing Leskinen did, yes.

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>>152561997
what the fuck are you talking about? the world is completely internally consistent

>>152560486
The worldline changes because with SERN never reading the D-mail, they never manage to create their own time machine and use it to make a dystopia. In other words, instead of time travelling, they prevent it from happening in the future and leading to the current future if that makes sense.

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>>152562044
A dark day for us all.

>>152561997
Steins;Gate never violates it's own rules.

>>152562024
Not you conciousness, your memories. Sending the conciousness would not be felt, maybe a bit of confusion, but nothing else. In Okabe's case, his memories are the only static thing while entire world lines switch over. People also sort of remember things after a while, but only things that they've experienced during Okabe observing them - for example, Beta Kurisu wouldn't remember Gamma Kurisu snd what happened there.

>>152562024
I think you're severly missing both the implication and the application here, but okay.
Okabe's time is the only real time and it is just as predetermined as anyone elses. By the first chapter he had already met a kurisu who had been approached by himself from the future. An approach, mind, that can only occur in a beta line that has had a reading stiener active Okabe from Alpha appear in.
He has never once altered time. He was ALWAYS going to do what he did. The alterations to """Time Space""" were predetermined. Time, in terms of a serialised relationship of causation, was never altered. Time space was merely predeterminately shifted around Okabe's own perception.

>>152562024
In Steins;Gate, moving information, AKA"difference", as in a detectable physical entity (like your hippocampus data) is the same as moving physical objects or energy.

Our real-life understanding of 'information' is more in how entropy works in relation to energy.

She's there just to fucking screw up all the plot and to not let Okabe fuck Makise

>>152562149
It does actually. In the beginning of the show, sending something physical backwards through time would cause it to turn into jelly as a result of the compression needed. Towards the end, they get a machine that can transport organic material through time without jellification without any sort of justification.

>>152562149
But SERN still exists and is making jelly-people, Moeka and FB should be the same, etc. So shit can still get fucked.

>>152562193
Goddammit I've seen that image so many times and it still gets me.

>>152562273
Not really. Given that it was a convergent event, if you look at all the other convergent events it probablly had something to do with defining the timeline.
Chances are, given its effects on Okabe it had something to do with how splintered FGL became during dystopia to the point where Kurisu was a CERN op and Daru wasn't around for Suzuha (another important convergant factor).

>>152562219
Also, isn't shit super pre-determined? Like even if Punished Future Okabe wanted to meet past Okabe during Skuld, he couldn't because that would break the universe?

>>152562284
S;G never did go into how Kurisu, Maho and Daru came to resolve that data limitation. Suspension of disbelief is needed with regards to the time machine.

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>>152562313
Saipaco is a treasure.

>>152562284
That would be due to figuring out how to tune the lifter.

>>152562071
Why would they send themselves on a wild goose chase for the next 25 years instead of just waiting for Kurisu and Okabe to drop in their hands in 2010?

>>152559758
Because Okabe can't directly violate causality. That's why they make such a big deal of the fact that he basically fucking bolted and his text of 'I hope she's alright' becomes something of a sick joke. Because he didn't actually check for a pulse, it only mattered that she APPEARED dead. If he had actually stopped to try and help the clearly injured woman rather than being a fucking pussy, there would've been no wiggle room for him to eventually give everything to save her.

>>152562273
Nigga full on could have, but shit wasn't rated high enough, and people wouldn't respect it if it had H-scenes, even though old classic American movies have sexual scenes to make them seem more mature. People would just treat it like another hentai. That doesn't mean I don't want to hear Asami Imai moaning like a stuck pig.

>>152562522
Because they can fuck shit ip right now lol. If someone told you you could choose between fucking the world now or in 25 years, what would you choose?

>>152562516
The time machine can make its own kerr black hole, but you still got to explain how is it that the time machine could manage to note and compress the state of everything inside that time machine as the machine goes through the wormhole.

>>152562615
It's just a huge waste of time to send themselves incomplete information on building time machines in the 1970s. They could have just sent a real time machine to themselves in the past.

>>152562410
>determinism
>couldn't
There are no such dangers in determinism. He will only ever do what he decides to do and he will only decide to do what has done, will do and is doing. No paradoxes can occur in a static system.

That said, the logic behind seeing yourself creating a paradox hasn't been explained. It could very well be an unreliable narrator. Suzu is pretty prone to that sort of thing.
Just like Zero retconning 'one timeline' causality and replacing it with recursive causality (see: MMS).

>>152562516
So the black hole is picky and can sometimes compress x bytes of data, sometimes entire Mb worth of video? Unless you're saying they made super black holes which can do that.

>>152562284
If you were paying any fucking attention, you'd know that was because fine control of the setup hadn't been established. What SERN and the FGL had done was less like opening a door to the past and more like creating an incredibly tiny little tear. If you tried to shove something too big through it, it got smushed on the way through. The difference was that that with texts and later the leveraging of Kurisu's brain scanning work, they were able to leverage that into something useful while SERN still aimed for full physical travel or bust. With the FG204 and C204, you can see two different levels of polish of more refined physical time travel.

>>152562622
>>152562730
The lifter. It's because of the lifter.

>>152562410
Isn't the whole point of attractor field theory that only some things are pre-determined and only sort of?

If future Okabe went in a time machine to meet his past self that would change the worldline thus potentially changing what events are determined.

>>152562726
So he had no free will during that segment where he playing hide and seek with himself and Mayuri? Sounds like bullshit. Sure it would cause a paradox of what happened changing, but still.

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>>152562726
They explain at one point that people do have free will to choose from amongst choices that are all probable, and that resulting paradoxes shift the world line. most people have tiny effects on divergence. Okabe and the gang are special though, especially Okabe.

to serve as a plot device for okabe

also, dodoroo~

>>152562622
>>152562730
It's because they got better at it you dumb fuck. They explain this. SERN and the FGL in 2010 were both unable to control their lifters. In the case of the FGL, that was the great big TV.

>>152562792
No idea who deleted that guy, but what the fuck was a lifter again? Was it something that helped shove the data through or some shit?

>>152562790
So what you're saying is they made the tight hole wider?

>>152562900
Magic electron injection sources that help stabilize the properties of the black holes.

>>152562726
>Just like Zero retconning 'one timeline' causality and replacing it with recursive causality (see: MMS).
What do you mean with this?

>>152561065
>Also, Kurisu not legit dying somehow manages to switch the worldline?
Well, yeah. Worldlines work with a strict sense of causality. If the cause changes, the effect changes as well. Not only the future, but the past as well.

>>152562887
SERN are dumb stupid niggers. If they had sent themselves the knowledge to fuck with the lifter to facilitate full-body shit, things would be different.

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>>152556688
No Mr Mayuri..
I expect you.. to die....

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>>152562900
If tuned properly it lets you create a naked singularity, which means that you can send physical objects through without them getting compressed and fractalised. They talked about this quite a lot you know.

>>152562934
>properties of the black hole
So the lifter is the shit that makes the black asshole not squeeze so tight? Is that it?

>>152562824
>no free will
Of course he had free will, but just the same as him leaping through time if you leapt forward in time (relative to his trial) that conflict of free will would play out, and it would always be the same, beacause he is the same and so was the circumstance. "Free will" is such a boring hangup anyway.

>>152562833
Literally when do they say that as you're describing it. People have the WILL to interpret D-mail as they see fit, sure but there's no worldline shift without timetravel. Further, given that D-mails ARE time affecting agents there is no variation in a timeline, period, without time dickery.
Suzu's infinitely small variation every time she travels is a good example of this. Something external to space time has to affect it for deviation to occur.

>>152563018
So you make a fucking portal through time instead of a black hole. So we're going into meme magic levels again.

>>152563026
Yes. Were you awake for ANY of the technical talk?

>>152562969
They probably don't want to send back things that would change the past that let them develop the time machine too much because the butterfly effect is just too dangerous. If things go wrong enough they could end up in a worldline where they are no longer in possession of time machines.

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>>152563048
I think it was in the big suzuha exposition dump. It was only a sentence or two, so I'm not surprised that you've forgotten.

>>152563116
It's exploiting the way Kerr black holes distort space-time.

>>152563048
>there's no worldline shift without timetravel.
>what is okabe deleting the dmail from SERN's database

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>>152563116
it's okay if you didn't listen to any of the exposition, but please remember that just because you don't understand it that doesnt mean it isnt coherent

>>152563117
>implying I remember any of that shit
All I remember is that they sent shit through black holes, it magically spits it out back in time, the actual time being tuned somehow

>>152562962
It's a whole thing but sure. 0kabe didn't exist on the same timeline that Okabe did at the time he sent the MMS. There was no alteration of the message from the sender and yet the mail was untenable until certain events brough Okabe close enough to 0kabe's frame of refernce and experience. To paraphrase S;G, he had to feel the pain of failing to save her before he could see the message.

T0Suzu also coroborates this claim. While only one timeline may exist at once it appears there's some complexity in how other lines that will exist or have existed interact with the current or 'real' world.

Another soft example of this as amadeaus knowing all about the theory of Stiens;Gate and alluding to the fact that she knew exactly what role Maho would play in other timelines.

>>152563116
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_singularity

>>152563207
>implying he didn't travel back in time to do so
Nice try faggot. Okabe would never have known what to do or why to do it without having pieced things together across those multiple timelines. The alteration occured because he, as an agent of extratemporal causation, intervened.

>>152563207
This makes time travel not happen in the future.

>>152563213
Nah nigga, I understand that through meme magic and shooting electrons at it, the black hole gets to the size of OP's Mom's pussy, so you can send shit through it.

>>152563132
Alpha Suzu may be best girl but she is an unreliable narrator at the best of times. Either way I'd love to see the lines. Every piece on info helps.

tuturu~

>>152563230
Ah yes, the fact that he couldn't see the message before killing Kurisu himself. Now THAT's straight up bullshit, and there is no way you can explain that with technobabble.

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>>152563304
yeah thats right you got it senpai

>>152563230
I thought this it was like this:
Zero timeline is what 'actually' happened, and while normally this would mean that 0kabe would be transferred to 2025 of the S;G worldline, he went inside the time machine to go to Mayuri and Suzuha, wherever they where.

>>152563213
No-no, it's pretty science fantasy. In fact their entire explanation was black holes, LMAO. While they went ahead and did the proper ground work by establishing real theories and the properties of black holes the actual travel was a cop out.
They even say: it's all because of the lifters, though we don't know how they work exactly.

I mean that's 100% understandable that they wouldn't figure out timetravel just to exposition dump in a VN but it's not like other media hasn't taken the theory a little more seriously.

>>152563245
Just a bunch of bullshit whether you can observe the things inside the black hole or not. How would that make any difference? Removing this event horizon thing that doesn't let light escape means that things can go in and out, but how would you affect the degree of compression? Once you take off the event horizon once, its off. Or do weaker lifters take off only part of it?

>>152563494
naked singularities lmao isn't a bad explanation when you want some bullshit physical effects though

>>152563494
So in the end, its fucking meme magic. Knew it.

>>152563462
I wasn't talking about that. At all. That is the reason that his reading stiener won't kick in and replace S;G okabe with 0kabe though.

>>152563368
There is and I have before but I am tired as all get out. The last time I tried a one-worldline lore fag kept losing his shit.
You can explain anything with techno-babble as long as the goal is staying internally consistent.

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>>152563575
>>152563559
>>152563494
>unsatisfied that story writers didn't fully explain how a time machine works
why do you even read books?

>>152563575
Everything involving time travel is meme magic because it isn't possible to go back in time.

>>152563575
No boss, they ACTUALLY figured out time travel for the sake of the VN. They traveled back and created the game to share the knowledge with those who need it but made sure to get some things intentionally wrong in case it were to get into the wrong hands ,':^)

>>152563627
I'm perfectly satisfied though

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The whole story is based on conspiracy theories and fringe science. You aren't pointing out an oversight when you say that it doesn't line up with real world physics.

>>152563627
>100% understandable
>unstatisfied
why do you even respond to posts?

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>>152563324
sorry friendo, I had a skim through the episodes but I can't be bothered to go through all of it to find the scene. It's the scene where she shows them her time machine. I can't remember if she explained it in the anime or in the VN or both, though.

>>152563726
>episodes
>citing canon from secondary sources
Cheers for looking though. You never know what you might find in some of Suzu's throw away lines. She says some really interesting stuff about how convergence works across timelines once, that I had totally overlooked until a chat like this.

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>>152563922
I'm pretty sure she mentions it in the anime, but I might be wrong. It's after it's revealed that she is John Titor and they go up to radio kan's roof. I remember her negging Okabe cause he couldn't climb a rope.

>>152564046
I don't think he ever attempts to climb a rope in the VN.

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>>152564482
neither in the anime, suzu just expresses frustration

I remember that in the VN, the Steins Gate worldline was separate from Alpha and Beta attractor fields, while in the anime its just the worldline where Kurisu doesn't die and there's no time machine. Also Mr. Braun randomly decides to hire Moeka.

　　( < ◎> 皿< ◎>) Whose~ Eyes~


　　(<◎ >皿 <◎ > ) Are~ Those~


m9( <◎> 皿 <◎> )　Eyes!?

>>152564046
That picture is lewder than it has right to be. Emphasizes just how slutty those hotpants are.

>>152564639
That's just cause Noire does it for shares.

>>152563627
The issue is with the mix of meme magic and the huge amount of pseudo-science, and that no matter how fancy and svientific they make it to be, it boils down to meme magic, including that absolutely haram shit about the videos not being able to be seen until certain events or feelings occured.

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>>152564594
they say that the Steins Gate is the one worldline that is unaffected by convergence but I don't know if that was just the characters being wistful. It's definitely the only worldline where there is no future dystopia though, which is why Okabe inevitably leads them to it.

>>152556688
to be annoying as fuck.

>>152563679
Said conspiracy theories are semi-truths, and they focus on fleshing out the physics so much, that its just stupid when the rxplanation is meme magic. Make up some new particles or some element that allowed for that sort of shit, instead of just leaving it like that.

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>>152564720
>pseudo science
but that's where you're wrong, anon. S;G takes what are real world scattered theories about time travel and gives them a very small narrative push in order to make them real, and then faithfully adheres to the outcomes of that. It's a tangled web of confusing storylines but one that is nevertheless internally consistent and absolutely worth making yourself understand. I guess if your criticism is that they HAD to explain away a plot hole then I don't really know why you're interested in fiction at all, because S;G is a small offender in that regard.

>>152564749
>It's definitely the only worldline where there is no future dystopia though

That's not necessarily the case. In R;N the lyrics for the OP or ED or something talk about how the thread in the hallway (referring to the SG worldline) comes undone if you fail, since SERN sets up a dystopia but without time travel.

The SG worldline is just supposed to lie between the Beta and Alpha attractor fields, so the events that both of those fields converge upon don't necessarily happen in that one.

>>152564749
>no future dystopia
The fact that a bunch of kids discovered time travel on their own means that other people could do it too, leading up to the same shit. Plus Maho and Leskinen are probably still fucking with memories, so that'll probably end badly once they figure out how to upload and overwrite memories properly. Might ask Danganronpa for some tips in that regard.

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>>152564978
>Leskinen

Until they elaborate on it I'll always believe that Leskinen is actually a good guy in S G timeline as a result of never meeting Kagari and finding out he's brainwashing people in 2036

>>152564849
Hey man, I'm just pointing out bullshit when I see it. Things would have been more beliavable and consistent if they used those D-sword bullshit things to explain the lifters, since supernatural stuff is established to exist in their world, rather than just keep it a plot hole. Could've used it to explain the video not being viewable.

>>152565075
Leskinen is the good guy in Zero. How many times must I repeat myself?

>>152565139
He just wanted to see the japanese shaman girls

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>>152564847
Why do you substitute what's actually happening for "meme magic"?

>>152565097
How the hell are the lifters a plothole?

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>>152564912
R;N is set on the Steins Gate line and since we know that it doesn't have a future dystopia from S;G then I don't know if they could have ever succeeded. R;N was predetermined in a way, i guess. that being said, there is the helix worldline that's adjacent to the Steins Gate from the film, so there's that.
>>152564978
Ah but no, this is why OkaKuri's romance is so special. Others can and do discover time travel, but Kurisu is such a genius that she causes entire futures to change around her because she can make a time machine easily. It's only because Okabe has Reading Steiner that he can prevent her from doing it because of her curious nature. Only by the eternal watch of Okabe's sky-clad gaze and Kurisu's talent can they ensure that nobody else ever makes a time machine. Maho is a substitute for Kurisu, but she never has the initial impetus to make a time machine in the first place; Kurisu does because of her father's interest.

>>152565075
He brainwashed Maho without hesitation in present day, and probably held Kagari in his shaman girl dungeon. Plus his motive was money and bullshit. At least FB is a better gym bro.

>>152565158
He just wanted humanity to reach a state of autonomy where it's entire existence didn't rely on a man with sketchily understood powers. Time machines and reading stieners for all

>>152565139
Until we find the worldline where Leskinen didn't operate on you, clearly.

>>152565191
All of those are technically post 2000.

>>152565176
>there is the helix worldline that's adjacent to the Steins Gate from the film,
Not canon.

>>152565176
>there is the helix worldline that's adjacent to the Steins Gate from the film, so there's that.

No.

>>152565163
Look at one of my previous posts, asking about how lifters work in response to some dude posting a link about naked singularities. Does the lifter luft the entire event horizon, or just a part of it, which would explain the better compression in the future?

>>152565191
>Plus his motive was money and bullshit
>implicado
Fucking philistine

>>152565213
First of all, that's communism and you see where it got countries to. Second of all, fucking with time and the human brain should be a taboo, since it starts breaking the world like it does. Some things are not meant to be understood. Case in point is where that same curiosity got the Alpha and Beta attractor fields to - dystopia or global extinction.

>>152565257
Something that isn't fully explained isn't an automatic plot hole. Besides the degree to which it protects against the singularity is irrelevant to the story. It does enough to facilitate time travel.

Why didn't Okabe want to fuck Mayuri? It's unbelievable.

>>152565430
>wanting to fuck your pseudo-sister

Mayushii is too pure for lewd activities.

>>152565358
>First of all, that's communism
You have to be fucking retarded. Tell me this post was the choice of steins;bait.

>>152565430
Sibling conditioning

>>152565430
Not really. You don't tend to get the impulse to fuck your childhood friend just as you don't tend to be sexually attracted by your sibling.

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>>152565358
>some things are not meant to be understood
That's not a very scientific thing to say, anon.

>>152565389
>everything else is described with painful accuracy
>this one super important thing isn't
Its a plot hole and you know it. As I said, they could have made shit up like in C;H. The video shit is an actual undefendable and unexplained plot hole.

>>152565430
She was basically his little sister.

>>152565430
Mayuri is too pure for sex

>>152565097
>being this pedantic about sci-fi anime

>>152565473
>time machines and reading steiner for all
>not communism
What is it then, since you seem to know?

>>152565541
It is explained by allusion in 0. It's the whole fucking point of zero actually. Recursive time.
Good lord.

>>152565469
>>152565473
>>152565479
>>152565544
Yeah, if you're gay. She's too hot for not wanting to fuck her only because you've known her since forever.
>>152565559
That's only makes it hotter.

You'll low test fags.

>>152565562
It maked itself super fucking realistic and then bam, unexplained shit. Everything else is actually theoretically plausible, so its not even sci-fi.

>>152565541
The story doesn't really rely on the video and we know in the future they come up with near magical devices like the Kerr black hole tracer that detects distortions in the space-time continuum or whatever. It's not really a big deal.

>>152565630
Not everything that's hot should be fucked.

>>152565630
Okabe isn't a fucking degenerate like you. Though lets be real, he'd be getting cucked like no tomorrow if this was irl.

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>>152565541
well they do explain it in the original SG; Houin Kyouma from the future sends the video such that it can only be opened on a specific timeline at a specific point. Maybe you could write some fanfiction to explain how that works, anon. MAGES. haven't gotten around to it yet.

>>152565613
The fuck is allusion and the fuck is recursive time? Pulled off several all-nighters while reading 0 and doing other shit so it either wasn't explained in super detail or I don't remember reading it.

>>152565682
Blasphemy!
>>152565701
>Okabe isn't a fucking degenerate like you.
I'd fuck even my mom if she was hot.

>>152565709
Exactly, he does shit but nobody knows how he did it. Same with the divergence meter.

Here's what I'm most confused about. Is the nature of reality just a probability simulator and the universe that exists in the present just one in which the probability wave collapses unto a single point or are there actually different timelines of concurrently existing universes? The way they illustrate it visually suggests the latter but the effects shown suggest the former. And if it is indeed the latter, then that means there are a bunch of worlds that exist where everything is fucked and that would mean that Okabe didn't really save shit, he just created a timeline that doesn't suck ass and shifted himself to it.

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>ywn read anything that made you feel the way S;G did ever again

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>>152565630
This >>152565682. Anyway, Kurisu is far sexier.

>>152565650
What? It's all fringe science from the get go.

>>152565784
Daru explains it. Every worldline is important in the journey towards Steins;Gate and the total number of shifts in 0 is implied to be incredibly huge, far more than the 6 routes show.

>>152565630
I remember being a backed up teen too.

>>152565849
Fucking monkeys like this post on S;G threads where we're arguing about science. Why is this allowed?

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>>152565907
the story necessarily demands that there's only one "active" worldline at any one time, or else what you said is true. They mention the Copenhagen interpretation which is in contradiction to the many-worlds theory

>>152565907
The universe is a bunch of train tracks, there is one train, and the people who drive the train are the people with time machines. According to Suzuha from the future anyways.

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>>152564912
Just wanted to add to this anon that the song is
"Clad in Steel Armor, High Priest of the 300"

>>152557769
Mai waifu

>>152565907
The worldline is one, all other timelines are possibilities, some of which have occured so the people can remember them. So yes, all attractor fields exist, but only one worldline from all of thise is active at any given time. Fucking with the past changes this worldline to another one.

>>152565939
>Kurisu is far sexier.
Yeah but Mayuri behaves like a child. Makes you wanna defile her.
>>152565947
And now you're a low test fag, such is life.
>>152565970
Wrong board.

>>152564639
Those hotpants aren't slutty at all.

>>152565907
The observer is the one creating divergences, and you observe the VN through Okabe's eyes. I would say is both things at the same time: you can navigate through all the possible timelines by being the observer, and thus changing reality too. You got to remember that experiment in which the electron behaves as both a particle and a wave. Same with the universe. Depending who is the observer, the universe will be one thing or another. We are the creators of reality.

>>152565939
Only thing I remember about that is the 3 GORILLION time leaps that were just left out with a huge amount of potential. I feel that most of 0 was just that - squandered potential. Its like seeing an innocent loli growing up to become a slut and sell herself on the streets.

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I want to bully Maho

>>152566153
Nigga have you seen how short they are? They barely cover anything. Kurisu a virgin American slut.

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>>152566134
I just want to hug Mayuri to be honest.

>>152566206
I won't deny that there were tons of missed opportunities and poor decisions made for 0.

>>152566224

>>152566182
Reminds me of how photons behave like that too, and how it explained the shit happening in Dr. Strange scientifically.

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You know too much.

>>152566265
They are very tight and revealing and they make me unreasonably horny but they aren't slutty.

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>>152566224
nani o surun da yo?!

>>152566320
Who even sent those? Also, since SERN hadn't read the text at any given point in time during the VN, did the find out about the time machine solely because of Okabe's chance meeting with Moeka?

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it's ok to be uncomfortable with not understanding something, but you have to come to the realisation that not everything will be explained in a story narrative because writers don't have the space or time to do that

>>152566352
No prim and proper girl would wear hotpants that short. Mayuri has spats on all the time, because she's not a concealed slut. Also, Kurisu is proven to have minor exhibitionistic fetishes via secretly wanting to cosplay, which unconciously transfers to her wearing slutty pants.

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>>152566478
girls wear minisucle pants with tights all the time here in london, it's really not hot at all unless you have the supermodel body that kurisu does; why can't she just be a normal girl?

>>152566432
>one thing that they could've made stuff about
>no time
But they had plenty of time to devote towards those fanservice scenes with Mayuri, Kurisu, Moeka and even the famous GRAB HER BY THE PUSSY scene?

>>152566478
It's pretty normal for young women to wear skimpy shorts. I'm not denying that she looks extremely lewd but she isn't being slutty by wearing them.

>>152566320
I played the game at like 3am and this made me shit brix

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>>152566569
explaining the video from the future would be a whole new arc in itself, the bits with fanservice were quarter chapters at most

>>152566557
Aren't girls over there mostly dressing like ninjas lol? Anyways, those hotpants are too short and are seductive on purpose. She could've worn some longer ones, for instance, or jeans even.

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>>152566649
well, that's mostly due to the fact that english girls are obese but when her tights are dark enough to just look like skinny jeans then i don't really see why that's slutty; kurisu's tights are very dark

>>152566579
That's because sluttiness has become almost the standard these days. Do you see any of the other girls wear something that short? Its on purpose and the slut knows it. Can also be explained by her daddy issues and subsequent attention-seeking.

>>152566649
Wouldn't you want her to keep wearing them though? You obviously think her tiny shorts are sexy.

>>152566743
i mean this is true if you're a redpill virgin but in reality girls wear what they like and not everything is hypersexualised

>>152566724
Wasn't talking about actual english girls, but the ones you can see on the streets. You know, the sand nigger ones?

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>>152566357

>>152566808
they're less common than you think, and if you see one they're normally dressed like a regular person with a hijab. Fox news lies.

>>152566786
So she likes wearing short, revealing ass shorts to show off her tight little ass and legs, thus making her a bonafide slut.

>>152566776
I want her to admit she's a slut and wants me to choke her and call me daddy.

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>>152566819
oi, tomekure!

>>152566786
Funny thing, there's actual research that shows that skirt length is inversely proportional to the percentage of female population in any given city.

Of course it's sexualized. Almost everything is.

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>>152566864
whatever helps you cope, anon-sama desu wa

>>152566951
and pirate population is inversely correlated with global warming. Sure people's vanity is sexualised, who doesn't want to look sexy? I'm pointing out that not everything in life is like an eroge

>>152566864
Sexy clothes and a lewd body don't make a slut. I get that you're either about to fap to her tight ass in her skimpy shorts or are doing so right now, but you're just being unreasonable.

>>152567017
What I'm pointing out is all the other girls dress normally, while Kurisu wears those tight fucking short as hell hotpants, cause she's a slut.

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>>152567017
Well, I'd be willing to bet that the p ratio on my example is quite a bit higher. Also depends on your definition of "pirate" and "global warming"

>not everything in life is like an eroge
Don't see how this has anything to do with what was previously discussed 2bh

>>152567031
Compared to the other girls, she's looking might slutty. Plus she's an exhibitionistic closet pervert.

>>152567071
She just dresses like an American girl. Americans girls are mostly sluts and dress as such.

>>152567071
you have a fundamental misunderstanding of girls, almost all girls and humans in general will try to look their best; looking good does not make a slut

>>152557769
How can they be so thin ;_;

>>152567071
Kurisu just wears them because they're cute. She probably doesn't even register that she has a body that somebody might want to ravage and that she's only making it worse with them.

>>152567071
She's just stylish. She isn't trying to be so incredibly sexy and boner inducing.

>>152567117
Her standard of looking good is looking slutty compared to all other girls we see.

>>152567158
What do you mean anon?

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>>152567158
i'm only not sad because there's just enough body fat to be normal weight, if on the low end. I wish she had THIGG FUGGEN THIGGS though

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>>152567117
So in this pic they don't look slutty, they just look "good"?

>>152567166
After some overall consideration, I found the reason why Kurisu's design sticks out compared to the other girls. What do you look first to see in Kurisu fanart? Her ass. Its all a clever ploy by the art design team to make her more popular and stand out as the main heroine when compared to all other designs.

>>152567213
maybe by your shut-in standards
see >>152567194
>>152567166
i understand that breaking egocentricism is difficult, but not everyone thinks like you

>>152567307
they look like they're at an event, they're not exactly walking around in the streets going to the shop now, are they? also, no tights, this is about as spurious an example as you could find

>>152567307
Case in point. She dresses slutty of her own free will.

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>>152567307
This thread is going places now.

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>>152567377

>>152567374

>this thread was overtaken by incels

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>>152559580
>watching assfaggots trash
>watching singshit

Get the fuck out of /a/.

>>152567374
>hrr drr
Nobody gives a shit, do they look slutty or not? And if so, is looking slutty a necessary condition for a female looking good?

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>>152567313
I feel that you may be overthinking this. She dresses in a fashion that conveys her eccentricities and striking looks while also actually appearing to resemble clothes a human being may wear.

>>152567313
Actually there's relatively little art featuring her cute butt.

>>152567330
The fuck do you mean? She stands out with having the sluttiest design out of all the characters in the VN. Her main point is her fucking ass, in most fanart and official art.

>>152567436
>people in this thread don't know what fashion is
>people in this thread think anything except a pure maiden in a long dress is slutty

>>152567467
i don't really agree, you're clearly just an ass man and it's okay to like her ass but it still doesn't mean she's a slut desu

>>152567436
What was the fucking issue with her wearing something longer? Like add 5-10cm and there's on issue. Or have her with a skirt or jeans. All the other girls are dressed normally.

>>152567467
>the sluttiest design
But that's Suzuha

>>152567558
>forgot the skin tight bodysuits and suzuha in general

convenient

>>152567307
Can't you read anon?
>Haters gonna hate

>>152567546
Nobody said anything about pure maidens. It's you who's trying to give her a way out of being described as slutty as if it's something bad.

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Alpha Suzuha is best Suzuha.

>>152567595
I'm not giving her a way out of anything, I'm just disagreeing with you - just because you make a supposition doesn't mean it's true

>>152567546
As I said, Mayuri's spats are OK, Moeka's skirt is OK, Faris' whatever the fuck is OK, Suzuha's are considered notmal even if her charming point is her ass, she's not showing it off left and right. Lukako's shorts were sorta OK, if that's what she worse. Might've been jeans as well.

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>Beautiful woman doesn't dress herself down
>Thus she's a slut

>>152567586
I'm talking casual wear sprites, plus Suzuha isn't super slutty, or at least she doesn't try to be.

>>152567628
which game is that from?

>>152567693
see:
>>152563132

just because something draws your attention or has the potential to be sexual doesn't mean it makes them a slut, I don't even think what kurisu wears is particularly revealing anyway; she just has long legs

>>152556688
She's just a Macguffin. She could easily be replaced with anything else; she was just there to make sure that the story happened.

>>152567742
Case in point, it barely covers her pussy and ass. Its a bit longer than fucking panties, ffs. You can't call that not slutty compared to what everyone else wears.

>>152567748
neither does kurisu, she just wears clothes; you wanting to bang her doesn't change that

>>152567787
Phenogram. It never got an official translation but a guy subbed it on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_58FF1DOCQ&list=PLMjWrtftxMTyi8jmrL7Es5Mf-DuZ_XTZa

>>152567829
lol, what? have you never been outside? this is one of the more modest pictures, they're literally just shorts

>>152567829
She wears shorts. Considering that they actually continue onto her thighs they cover much more than what a lot of girls wear for fashion rather than sluttiness these days. Don't hold having a lewd body against her, man.

>>152567653
You just made two in the post I'm quoting.

In fact, since the majority opinion seems to be that she IS slutty, the burden of proof is on you.

>>152567787
What Suzuha's wearing is a bit above her knees. What Kurisu's wearing is a tiny it below her pussy. Thus, those hotpants are slutty. Stop whiteknighting you're waifu.

>>152567885
>(you)
thanks for confirming that you don't understand how burden of proof works, I can safely ignore you now

>>152567420
Small child detected.

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>>152567467
There is only a single image by huke that depicts her ass.

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>>152567307
MUH

>>152567916
so it's a length issue? what if her shorts were a single thread and her tights were incredibly thick, is that slutty? you have a vague definition of what sluttiness is

>>152567955
It still baffles me that S;G started life as a fucking 360 exclusive.

>>152567878
My man, if that's long compared to girls you know, sign me the fuck up, cause that shit's probably a sticky over their slit.

>>152568024
Up until yesterday I always thought it was just an anime. Then I found it's on Steam as a VN.

>>152567921
No, it's actually you who doesn't understand. Burden of proof is a social convention, not a logical one. In fact we're arguing about two models of reality, where evidence contributes to their likelihood of being true(or not). Because sluttiness is generally something that is evaluated by society at large, I currently have more evidence for my model than you do for yours, just by the virtue of having several anons agree with me. Hence, you need to present evidence in favor of your model.

>>152567988
Low ass shit that barely covers your ass and pussy is slutty no matter who you ask. As I said, make that shit a bit longer and its not super slutty.

>>152568135
I can't believe that you are like that.
Do yourself a favor and go through the VN. The anime couldn't go into the level of detail that the VN has, and S;G is arguably one of the best VN to have ever been released.

>>152568135
And that's a backport of the Vita version, which is a port of the PS3 version. Its code is unrelated to the OTHER PC version.

>>152568204
What other PC version?

>>152567955
Another case in point right here - its just long enough to cover her ass cheeks. If that's not slutty, I don't know what is.

>>152568236
There's a Windows PC version that's released in Japan. The Steam version is not that Japanese PC release.

>>152568198
I was planning on downloading it tonight actually.

>>152568204
Pretty sure is a port of the PS4 version, due to the HD assets.

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>>152568177
> Burden of proof is a social convention, not a logical one

yes, i'm sure you could find a lot of people who tell me that aliens are real but that doesn't mean it's true