How hard will Vegeta job?
>that fucking elephant was dead for like three seconds before Whis rewinded time
Porn anchor for newly revealed ladies. Imgur em and post the link in a reply please.
So far we've got:
Girl Broly: http://m.imgur.com/2s3zWUJ
How the fuck are you meant to fight against that
There's a reason I have GT at the very end
And I already knew to watch the two movies instead of the first 27 or so episodes of Super.
>Super comes before the last (or last two) episode of Kai 2014.
what the fuck
>introduce a little anarchy upset the established order and everything becomes chaos
What did he mean by this?
Dragon Ball's ending is 10 years after the Buu saga.
Super continues from the Buu saga, before the 10-year timeskip.
GT is 5 years after that 10-year timeskip.
Skip straight from Raditz's death to Princess Snake. Then skip to Yamcha's death, then continue on until Vagina's retreat, then skip back to the Raditz fight, then back to Princess Snake, then straight to Frieza's 2nd form, then continue until Frieda dies. Watch Cooler and the last Broly movie, but after the Bardock special, then watch the driving episode 3 times. Then read the manga.
Fucking Toriyama did it, they finally made Rambi a God of Destruction.
Repost of how much Gohan has come since the beginning of Super:
"Let us examine what actually happened in Episode 75...
IF Goku actually didn't use "Saiyan beyond God" Ki/form in his fight with Gohan, then that means of course that yes, Goku was holding back significantly.
However, keep in mind the following excerpt, quoted directly from the Wikia link:
"it is noted by Krillin and Gohan that they could not see either Goku or Frieza's movements"... during the RoF movie/arc.
Since Gohan in episode 75 explicitly mentioned that Goku was extremely fast, but was still able to see his movements enough to catch his punch, and combined with the fact that Goku wouldn't jeopardize his training by holding back, means that Gohan was able to increase to a level where he could see Goku's movements while Goku used God Ki.
Hinestly, since Ultimate Gohan was basically Gohan at full power without having to change to Super Saiyan, I would assume that a God Form would not be that far off, since he's already being overly efficient with his Ki, by rekting enemies in base form.
reminder that Gohan will take care of fembroly
and also Gohan is taking care of sheev and the suicide squad
Never thought I'd see the day that we'd get a Canon version of broly
And here's a repost of you getting debunked, Gohanfag.
You can't assume that Goku was using the Saiyan Beyond God form. It is a form that he has to go into, otherwise every time he went SSJ after obtaining that form and ki control would be SSJB instead. Your logic is flawed and Gohan is not nearly as strong as you think he is right now. Goku is still far beyond Gohan even if we just compare base forms.
Thanks to the manga we can now place a scale on SSB.
If Black (before Zenkai) could manhandle Trunks at SSJ2 (which is at Goku's SSJ3 level) in base form, we can presume Black to be SSJ3+ at base. So when he goes SSJ, he is about 50X that power.
Now when Vegeta starts beating him up (Super Saiyan Blue) Black let himself get beat up, but that doesn't mean he was superior to Vegeta. We can judge that SSB itself (Since Goku/Vegeta are practically equals) gives a powerboost more then 50X that of a Super Saiyan 3, which means their base strength is increased about 20000+ times. That blows SSJ4 out of the water in terms of multipliers, which is only considered 10X that of SSJ3
You keep ignoring the fact that Goku wants to seriously train.
There's no reason for him not to go into "perfect Ki control form" if it isn't going to benefit his training, thereby making him stronger.
Would you believe if 10 years ago someone came to you and said the official continuation of Z with Toriyama on board will have the first female SSj that will be literally canon Broly and one of the strongest guys will be an elephant a cat and Joker?
>implying the Dumbo wouldnt revive the strongest fighter in his Universe considering if they lose U10 gets nuked
>SSB Kaioken needed for Hit when Goku only used that against Fusion Zamasu and not Black
If he wanted to seriously train, he wouldn't have sparred with Krillin and it was Gohan that came to Goku and started the fight. If Goku really wanted to train, he would go to Whis or Vegeta.
He can still hone his technique and strategy while in normal base form and normal SSJ and it would actually be more effective to do so since his opponent wouldn't be overwhelmed by pure power and speed.
Fucking mexican brolyfags.
Literally whats the fucking difference between a female and male broly. Its not like had a deep personality that Brollina will not be able to achieve. She probably will have a better character anyway. Broly can cause the same destruction you all loved while being female. Hell this Broly is probably 100x stronger than the movie one
I wonder if she has the same power set of just continuous strength increase? Broly just kept getting stronger and that muscle mass never slowed him down
I'm curious if she measures up to ssj 2-3 or even blue
Do you want to know why I use my fists? Guns are too quick. You can't savor all the... little emotions. In... you see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are. So in a way, I know your friends better than you ever did. Would you like to know which of them were cowards?
We killed the clown and the furry, why didn't you praise and adore us?
If someone would have told me Broly was going to be even close to canon two years ago, I would have called you a filthy liar, not to even mention that it's r63.
As a self-proclaimed Broly fan, I have no idea how to feel about this. On one hand it's more "Broly" screen time, but on the other hand I kinda preferred him being not apart of the main story. Granted, I don't think FemBroly will have a huge role, but still.
It was already explained in this very same episode that Whis was too busy with a summit meeting, and that Vegeta was preoccupied with something else, so they were not options for Goku to train with.
Goku even mentioned how the training with Krillin was effective, and that was due to the additional Turtle costume, combined with added weights, and the weird sandals that hindered his movements.
If it was really so easy for him to beat Gohan, then at the very least he would have complained about how much of a time waster it was.
Instead, he actually praised Gohan for his skill.
>uni 10 GoD is a tough guy who thinks that he can handle anything
>he notices that all his fighters are shit
>revives Zamasu despite Gowasu warning him because he thinks he could handle Zamasu himself if he got out of control
>Zamasu lashes out and unleashes his autism on everyone
>uni 10 tries to subdue Zamasu
>he gets BTFO
>Zamasu tries to attack Zeno
>all the angels move in to protect Zeno and we finally see them fight seriously
Goku, vegeta and trunks never used ascended ultra saiyan form cause the muscle mass slowed them down too much
Broly however just wrecked everyone without taking a scratch till the end
He even powered up at one point saying "my power...getting much stronger..." in the eng dub. It just seems logical to assume the more he fights, the stronger he got, and he was never slowed down from all that muscle mass
Goku is not the type of person to shit on friends and family like that and he was likely complimenting Gohan's improvement since RoF not his overall skill considering how much of a string bean he was when he fought Frieza.
Create invincible LSSJ babies that instead of saying the first word mum will destroy a galaxy instead
>it's just regular Broly with gyno
The strongest part of that equation is the Farmer with Shotgun. Even if Radditz reached SS Ikari and multiplied himself 200 times while keeping each copy at full strength... He's still Radditz. His super jobbing power would make him lose to Pan in some anticlimactic way.
But anon, half-breeds are superior mates. Not only do they have Saiyan blood, but their human blood lets them keep their cool and control their emotions. Otherwise pure blooded Saiyans are clueless about love and emotion, outside of the Royal family and small mutations (Gine and Burdock).
Pretty sure the reason he doesn't get slowed down is because LSSJ reforms his body to be as effective as possible. Or at least that's what I got out his transformation sequence.
In the jap dub it could be interpreted that he was being overwhelmed by his own incredible power, which is why he shit out all that ki. Even if his power was "ever growing" I doubt it would be a power level increase rather than his energy just replenishing itself rapidly during battle. Those two alone are far more plausible than his power just going up.
>Female Broly canon
>Gowasu is back
>Robot from GT
>jacked palpatine fightning
Already best arc, 10/10 Super>>>>Z>>>GT literally hype as fuck the memes will be glorious
>goku with a powerlevel of 10 in the start of DB tanked bullets
>Krillin, someone way beyond planet buster stops taking training extremely seriously like before
>ends up with a powerlevel of less than fuckin 10
Really makes you think.
>Even if his power was "ever growing" I doubt it would be a power level increase rather than his energy just replenishing itself rapidly during battle
Except Ki raising is literally powerlevel going up. He was using LSSJ for he first time so the container was having problems. Just like how Kaioken was supposed to be hard to use at first then by the time the Frieza Saga happened Goku was spamming x20 without any drawbacks.
That makes sense. I did always find it a bit shitty that no one was ever able to inflict even the slightest bit of damage to him in either movie 8 or movie 10. Gohan got a few hits in but none of them looked like they even bothered broly that much. He shirked off a fully powered kamehameha and while a cool scene, just made the one hit he took to the gut too easy a solution to beating him
Also I took it that the form and his power needed to regularly release energy/like or he'd pop like a balloon, the way he did when he took that hit
Hit is going to lose to hooded guy because that is probably the final boss of the tournament.
The entire U6 team will have big sacrifice scenes to "defeat/kill" the suicide squad which will prove fruitless as they all survived unscathed and just laugh at their last stand. It will be like Team Soldier vs Team Phoenix from the Kinnikuman battle for the throne tournament.
There isn't one. Who is the U6 counterpart to Goku, and the U7 counterpart of Hit?
They're twin universes, that have had different histories, not every character has a counterpart.
Man, I know i'm not supposed to care about filler, but this really rustles my jimmies.
Ki replenishing itself is not power level rising. It would make him a highly effective and an almost tireless warrior and also explain why he discharged but isn't stupid like his power just rising for no reason with a random screaming discharge for no reason as well.
>by the time the Frieza Saga happened Goku was spamming x20 without any drawbacks
He was spamming x10 during his fight with Frieza and using x20 once sapped him of any strength he has left.
I feel that the hits he did take like Goku's knee and Vegeta's kick damaged him at least a little but he just shrugged it off and kept going in anyways. It certainly fits his fighting style.
Him getting punched in his chest scar was cool reincorporation but they only mention the shit once otherwise his defeat in his first movie wouldn't have felt like it came out of nowhere.
I understand why Gohan couldn't do shit in the 2nd movie considering Broly got a big-ass zenkai.
That's why I think his power just rising for no reason is stupid. He had to discharge his energy after going nuts on the Z-Fighters and popped when he got a hole ripped open in his chest. It just makes more sense for it not to be continuous power increases that aren't zenkais.
Her Mother FemParagus could have kept her a secret because of how destructively dangerous FemBroly potentially was.
>There isn't one
There is and its Broly. Its the LSSJ, thats an important player in the universe like Frieza was.
>Who is the U6 counterpart to Goku,
Kakarot is a low class warrior ttained on Earth and babied by the gods. Earth was gone in U6 so Kakarot stayed a low class warrior. Likewise there is no Cell for the same reason.
>U7 counterpart of Hit
The same reason nobody knew about Broly being the LSSJ in his movies, he and Paragus were off on their own, and nobody really knew about them.
For all we know, FemBroly is the same, wandering around the universe with no relation to the saiyan planet.
The thing is we dont even know if its LSSJ, might just look like it (completly like it lol) toriyfag can call it SSJ4 or whatever and make it so every female going SSJ will turn into this hulkish thing. Basically we dont know shit yet
Training with Roshi
>a furry fox
>some brown chick
>some weird big robot thingy
>a fucking clown
>an old man who's a pervert
>an old man who's wise and shit
>a little jobber with a generic name
>a bunch of other Supreme Kais
>cute angels who are either really tall or really short
>a literal child with a blank face
Your DB pantheon, ladies and gentlemen
>Ki replenishing itself is not power level rising.
Except his Ki is rising to the point its overflowing. His power is increasing, his body just cant take it. He can get over that with training and he actually did in M10 with just a Zenkai.
>He was spamming x10
Yet at first even regular was lethal. Training does wonders.
>There is and its Broly
There is not, because as of yet Broly has not been named or mentioned, and is not canon.
>Earth was gone in U6 so Kakarot stayed a low class warrior
The Saiyans of U6 are not a warrior race, as stated by Cabba.
And going by this logic, since Broly was born on Planet Vegeta, which does not exist in U6 (As the saiyans never left their home planet), then how does FemBroly exist? She couldn't have been born on Planet Vegeta.
You can't be serious.
I can't wait until they dub this episode SO I CAN FUCKING MAKE OUT WHO THE FUCK IS TALKING BETWEEN GOHAN AND GOKU. HOLY SHIT JAPAN PISSES ME OFF
>The thing is we dont even know if its LSSJ
Stay delusional Broly hater. Cant wait to see yourself commit sudoku, make sure you stream it.
HURR CABBA NOT A SSJ JUST LOOKS LIKE ONE XDDD
>make it so every female going SSJ will turn into this hulkish thing
Pan already went SSJ, it was gold. Headcanon debunked
>Japanese Kitsune God
>Hindu Elephant God
>Egyptian Pharoah God
I actually like this pantheon. Only missing some Nordic God assuming it's not the dwarf guy.
lets get real
i always thought the legendary super saiyan form that we currently know is isn't truly mastered. the Lssj is a form where the overwhelming power is constantly growing as the body has to keep up with that power. so the the one broly and the new girl has could be an untamed version.like what goku said about getting bulky would lead you in a disadvantage in speed. the mastered lssj would be less bulky and more controlled like, will be called True super saiyan.
but in an anons term
super saiyan anger green
If his Ki is rising then it's the same as water filling a tank. The tank holding the water doesn't just get larger like magic to hold all the new water. Ki rising and power increasing are two different things. He could train himself to contain more of it or just get a zenkai like he did in the 2nd movie.
>even regular was lethal
He could use up to x2 with no huge adverse effects. It took x3 to start hitting him with real blowback and x4 to thrash his body. After training in gravity 10x more potent than the gravity on King Kai's planet, he was able to use x10 like it was x2 on Earth beforehand. Him training KK started having diminishing returns by the time SSJ took over as his go-to form.
Vegeta mentions that the last super saiyan to have appeared in history was 1000 years prior, and in the anime, a filler episode depicts this original super saiyan as looking like a golden great ape.
Frieza feared the LEGEND of a super saiyan, not a specific one.
>There is not,
Twin Universe means counterpart is a rule. U6 has a LSSJ and so does U7 by default.
>since Broly was born on Planet Vegeta, which does not exist in U6
Planet Vegeta is the same as Planet Salada. Its the counterpart.
>8 or 9 years old
>still carried around like a baby
>has to be fed by her parents
>mother had to give her a bath
>clenches her mother's teet when she's carried
So does Marron have some kind of crippling autism that requires her mom present at all times?
I bet she still wears diapers.
>literally the only worth fight
WHAT A BLUEBALLER
I'll say that they sound similar at times but Nozawa makes the attempt to give her Goku and Gohan voice a difference.
Goku sounds more rough and burly in his language but Gohan has a lot more order to it.
>If his Ki is rising then it's the same as water filling a tank
The tank capacity increases with training. Or Zenkais.
>Ki rising and power increasing are two different things
Except power increasing is literally Ki rising.
>He could use up to x2 with no huge adverse effects
Even x2 could end up killing him
>The tank capacity increases with training. Or Zenkais
Which is what I said. The latter is the only one that happens and it only happens once.
>Except power increasing is literally Ki rising.
Power increasing increases the tank's capacity but the ki rising is just the tank refilling. Completely different.
Maybe if he used it continuously for too long.
Why did the best girl in the series have to get stuck with the one person in the world that's even more useless than Yamcha?
>Planet Vegeta is the same as Planet Salada. Its the counterpart.
You could not be more wrong.
Planet Salada is the saiyan original planet.
Planet Vegeta, originally Planet Plant, was taken over by the Saiyans after they destroyed their original home (Salada).
So since, as you just said, the two universes are perfect counterparts as a rule, then U6 still has Planet Plant. This is a big change in the history of the two universes, and marks a splitting off point. U6 has no Vegeta, no King Vegeta, nor equivalents, as they're not a warrior race in Cabba's world.
Is this an accurate representation of Krillin's worst nightmare?
>misterious dude from Clown's universe
How much of a disappointment will it be? Is that I am used to masked/misterious characters to be that in the end
A Majin and a Dragon Clan Namekian please?
Manlets are one thing but this is ridiculous.
>now with Broly being kinda canon
>I'm a fucking retard
Read and fucking take this in.
Training and increasing power increases their maximum potential Ki.
Ki rising is their actual current amount of Ki refilling within their current maximum potential. It filling up too much requires the person to either discharge it or fucking pop like a water balloon being overfilled.
If you can't understand this after it being spelled out so cleanly for you then you're a certified dipshit.
>Cabba is U6 Vegeta
Based on what? That he knows the Galick gun move? With how little we know of the saiyans of U6, the galick gun could be a common move for them for all we know.
Further, Cabba isn't royalty, so why is he the Vegeta counterpart? He's just a random saiyan, in a universe with many thousands of saiyans.
I love Chi Chi.
Also, if you guys can't tell 18 was giving Krillin a reality check because she cares about him in this episode you might have autism.
I agree with both points, but mostly the former.
OMW she's beautiful! The first super saiyajin girl in the cannon
Who is fem-broly actually created for?
Who's out there thinking YOU KNOW WHAT DB NEEDS! A CHICK THAT CAN TRANSFORM INTO A ULTRASAIYAJIN THATS MORE SWOLE THEN FUCKING USSJ1 TRUNKS!!
They don't even have females that can go into a normal SSJ and they went out of their way to pinch a loaf on the very fucking notion of getting more muscular as a matter of course in DBS.
The fuck are these niggas doing with this faggotry?
It's not really maturing as much as the big joke becoming that everyone really fucking hates the great saiyaman now. Xenoverse and Fusions both have jokes about how all the kids think Gohan and Videl look stupid as fuck and act like retards when they have their costumes on.
From left to right
>International fans love Broly
>Japan fans don't like the character
>Broly has a huge huge following internationally though that gives him regular appearences in all spinoff materials
>have to create 10 characters for each for 12 universe plus kais, attendants and God's of Destruction
>"Hey what if we made a character that's a reference to Broly, but it's funny because she's a cute girl"
Trunks was only a foot shorter then his adult form in the future trunks saga.
And during that time, he was the same fucking age that he is in Super right now.
They're just keeping them underage for marketing purposes and ease of writing.
Yeah but Gohan didn't really adhere to that rule. Or even Trunks in flashbacks. If we're assuming Trunks HAS aged, he should be as old as he was in History of Trunks, which he clearly isn't.
Is he coming back? I want him back. Please come back. I miss the ningenposting. Please write him back. I miss him. Come back. Zamasu is the best.
Just like he screwed with people in the Buu saga by making Vegeta evil again or by making the main villain bubble gum? And what I mean by that is that he tries to screw with people but only ends up pleasing them instead.
Have any idea of how much money I could be making right now if i could get it up for a dude when I had a chance to do porn?
No one likes swole bitches.
Not even as joke characters.
Super is ran by fucking retards and literal fags.
>Tori and Toyo are brainstorming one day about who to be in the USA
>Toyo brings up Broly because he knows fan will love it
>Tori naturally goes "who?"
>Toyo explains who Broly was again
>Tori looks at him for a while and clearly doesn't remember
>Toyo is exasperated and laughs while saying this is just like the time he forgot Launch
>Tori goes "who?"
>Toyo explains Launch to Tori before they call it a day
>The next morning Tori tells Toyo that they can add that character he talked about into USA
>Shows him a picture of Fem!Broly
>Toyo realizes that Tori literally confused the two characters together
>Toyo decides to roll with it
oh man I'm loving this already
Can Android 18 use senzu beans to heal serious damage or would the destruction of her cybernetics permanently disable her even after healing?
>>Japan fans don't like the character
Japs literally fucking love Broly, what the hell are you on?
Do you not see those videos memeing the fuck out of him, there's a fucking mountain of them and I'm under the believe that you're living under it.
>Who is Launch
Even the fans forgot about her...
Broly was litterally just the first views of USSJ1 Trunks + Gohans canon rage powerup turned up to 1000.
There was less then nothing to him outside of that. Even his costume is fucking retarded.
The fuck was the reason for all of that fucking gold on him?
I don't know what that is but it's wrong
Japs find Broly absolute meme perfection
From the looks of it they're the same type of character.
Anon, i think you are the retarded.
Yeah but the entire fanbase and most shounen lovers aren't all queer dudes and creepy queer chicks who pretend to be men online.
His costume and post LSSJ form are fucking lame. It's accepted, not lauded.
> female broly
The year of the meme is still going strong
Thank you based Toriyama for all these autistic tears FemBroly is already generating in this very thread
>and post LSSJ form are fucking lame
He looks hot as fuck.
It feels good to be back, anon
NOT THICC ENOUGH! CHECK THIS!
SOMEONE GET THIS BROLYFAG IN HERE
>he killed the clown and the furry
truly the best god
Can we seriously stop pretending that Dragonball even has one?
Not a single piece of media, not even the anime, acts like the movies weren't a thing.
The movie and GT characters are referenced in pretty much every video game and countless official articles.
Hell, in Xenoverse they even say that the movie/GT events are just alternate timelines. The characters exist it's just that the events they were in haven't been confirmed for the main timeline
Dude, there isn't a single fucking person in this thread who believe that fembroly was created by Toriyama.
Toriyama has never at any point created a female character that looks anything like that. Not even as a joke.
This is Toei being creepy queer fucktards who're trying and outright failing to be clever yet again.
Blue Launch was all calm and cute
None Legendary SSJ Broly looks calm and cute
Blonde Launch was Crazy and Rabid
Legendary Super Saiyan Broly looks Crazy And Rabid.
Licherally a relevant launch.
You do know that the manga team and the anime team work together now right?
You don't even have this excuse anymore.
But no do go ahead, your tears are funny
I remember it being like this
>get some number of episodes into an arc
>randomly back to the begining of the show
>get back up to where you were before, get ahead another 20 episodes or so
>back to the begining.
I don't think I ever fucking finished Shaman King back when it was on TV and that was my only source for these things because of that shit god fucking damn.
I meant pre.
I've had like 8 shots of vodka early on today and I'm just comming off of it.
No, his design is liked becauase it's just the first LSSJ1 Trunks form with a few extra hair spikes plus GOHAN RAGE
His actual costume and PRE-Lssj form? That shit is trash.
His design is liked for many reasons and that includes his pre-LSSJ forms.
lmao I can tell you're a fucking autist by calling that form that.
>8 shots of vodka
Take some more so you can pass out and fuck off.
Launch is litterally every other character in DB who gets powerful when they get angry you faggot.
It is not launch.
It is a chick version of broly that toei decided to make for whatever reason.
I'm sorry, but that's just the excuse that they are using. You see, Toriyama did not design this character. Toyo and Toei did...for who knows what reason.
That's them. They do all sorts of utterly fucking retarded shit and pretend that toriyama did it or gave it the thumbs up before he went back to his mounds of cocaine and kinda legal school girl aged whores so they can get both the approval of fans or be able to pretend they did nothing wrong and pass the buck.
This will, mark my words, be a buck passing moment.
You mean like how toriyama decided they should have DB kart issues?
I think it's time to just call a spade a spade on this one. this is one of those designs and ideas that has absolutely nothing to do with Toriyama at all.
Imma beat goku's ass screen cap this
If we can get a female Broly, can we get a Cooler Frost?
Sooo, just launch? cause she was the only character that drastically changed personality wise?
If you wanna be technical, I guess that means Launch was Broly before Broly. Really makes you think, huh?
>His design is liked for many reasons and that includes his pre-LSSJ forms.
No one even acknowledges his pre-lssj form you fucking idiot.
He is, as far as the entire fandom concerned permanently in LSSJ form.
>lmao I can tell you're a fucking autist by calling that form that.
I meant USSJ Trunks
And if you can't look at this
And not think, "Maybe this is where they got the idea for Broly" then you're clinically fucking retarded.
shots of vodka
>Take some more so you can pass out and fuck off.
Nah, I think I'll stick around here and school you fucktards till I get bored.
> hot tanned chick GoD
> my dad hairy ballsack as GoD
For which one are you the most excited?
It won't be.
But you can do something right now to prove how right you are. Find a single solitary instance of a single female designed like female broly ever created by toriyama.
In any media.
I'm sure you can find something in Dr.Slump or DQ. The former being a joke book and the latter being his most prolific work(I think).
>cause she was the only character that drastically changed personality wise?
Vegeta gets all heroic and shit at the last second
I can go on.
She's nothing like fucking Launch you fucking buffoon.
Vegeta fighting a fat titted alien woman.
He's gonna job isnt he?
You know there is a first time for everything right? This is as good as I can find on short notice.
>How hard will Vegeta job?
As hard as he always has.
Wasted potential coming through. Don't mind me.
That looks nothing at all like the female broly that is shown.
It just looks like a mamabear fat chick.
Even in his most LOL hilarious Toriyama has never ever designed a chick like that.
Even when he's in his most experimental.
The entire idea for the character is a piss poor toei only idea and it's going to go over like a lead balloon covered in swole bitches that are also made out of lead.
Their even trying to say "It's probably just a really feminine dude!!" in youtube comments.
>Where my furry warrior at
I got ya senpai
>someone does something they haven't done before
>clearly wasn't them
Nigga you fucking dumb.Toriyama has tons of form for taking an old idea and then repackaging it because he doesn't want to just repeat it.