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How can anyone argue that Griffith did anything ethically wrong?

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How can anyone argue that Griffith did anything ethically wrong? I mean, on a really shortsighted, temporary and mortal level, he did what was "morally" wrong. However, if he told all his troops that their lives are his, and that they can't join unless they are willing to give up their lives for his ambition, did he really do anything that lied or went against that creed?
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That's like saying the government should be able to personally execute any soldier in the military without a trial at any time.
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>it's the daily griffith apologist thread
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>>152473860
>It's the no life who's never had to sacrifice anything to further his life goals
I get it, you want to be a child forever, but adults have to make hard choices all the time.
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>>152474028
Oh please, Griffith is the definition of a manchild.
>fucks up and everyone pays for it
>fucks up and sells out his companions to make up for it
>fucks up and takes it out on his bud by raping his girl
>fucks up the world so he can fulfill his childhood dream of playing castle

He's a faggot loved by faggots.
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>>152474028
There is a difference between sacrificing all your friends lives and sacrificing time with your loved ones at home to further your career, stop being such a Griffith apologist. Griffith was a shit and you know it.
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>>152473751
Some people can't imto causality. It's not Griffith's fault, it's the actual nature of evil
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>>152474630
>Behelit will eternally follow the one who is meant to activate it at a certain time
>As a result of the inevitable activation of the behelit which he could not control, Griffith can fight Kushans
>Saves Midland and kills guy who tortured him
>Bring new golden age of prosperity
>Only people sacrificed were band of the hawk
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>>152475447
It being fated to happen doesn't make it better, it actually makes it worse.

Also Griffith brought out the literal apocalypse, it sure is convenient that Falconia is the only safe place left for people. I sure hope he doesn't decide to sacrifice everyone there too. His thirst for further godhood isn't quenched yet.
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>>152475901
>Falconia sacrificed
Literally worst thing is Griffith kills god hand
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>>152475447
>>Bring new golden age of prosperity

lmao if you think this is what is happening.
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>>152475447
>Bring new golden age of prosperity
He brought the fucking apocalypse, everyone outside his "country" is getting wrecked.
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>>152476145
Gotta agree there, this has sheltered dystopia written all over and cranked past eleven with the nob off and the speakers causing glass to crack up.
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>>152476145
this exactly. Why do people think Griffith made some sort of Utopia, everyone elsewhere is fucked.
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>>152473751
He did wrong, but what he did was understandable, I'd have done the same
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>>152473751
I agree. He did nothing wrong. The Band of the Hawk was full of people who had no ambition. What they sought after was the advancement of Griffith and his dream. Griffith took into account the lives of all the other fallen members of the Band of the Hawk and thought that their deaths would have been in vain if he did not sacrifice the few members that were left. It was a "Go hard or go home" moment. His transformation corrupted his feelings by eliminating the "good" and amplifying his "evil". The rape of Caska was him showing Guts his dominance over him.
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>>152475340
>>152477342
>>152478567
>t. Griffith
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This is such a stale meme, no one except edgy neckbeards and actual faggots actually think Griffith did nothing wrong.
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>>152479584
Well what he did was "wrong" like dropping bombs on Japan was wrong. It was a necessary evil to accomplish a goal. The US did it to end a war without more death and Griffith did it to keep the deaths of the many from being in vain. The word "wrong" is so relative in this context that it truly has become a meme.
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>>152473832
I think the key word in OP's post was "ambition".
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>>152473751
He's bringing the apocalipse on earth while pretending to be Jesus.
How is that not morally wrong?
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>>152481031
That's Femto. The Griffith that "did nothing wrong" is not around atm.
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where the fuck is the new chapter
is he gonna let the chapter when shitty season 2 drops
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>>152473751
If there is ever a live action berserk, Griffith should be played by Taylor Swift.
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>>152473751
>on a really shortsighted, temporary and mortal level, he did what was "morally" wrong.
He lead his friends and family to their horrific deaths, cursed the survivors to be hunted for all eternity and personally fucked up the fate of the entire world for insipid personal gain.

His actions have had permanent, long term, irrevocable effects on the entire planet. Everything outside of Falconia is either fortified settlement, magically hidden sanctuaries or post-apocalyptic, demon infested hellscapes. Berserk is what happens when Mad Max, Hellraiser and Renaissance Europe in the middle of it's crusades comes together.

Griffith's actions weren't temporary, mortal or shortsighted. His morals were entirely self-serving. Any altruism or virtue is mearly his bloated ego and his ideal of what a leader should be whilst trying to escape the consequences of his betraying the band of the hawk, which will inevitably end up with Guts leveling Falconia to the ground if it doesn't implode from whatever demon shit Griffith and company are up to before then.
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>>152481464
Do you think they've learned? Did they get rid of those unnecessary panning shots?
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>>152479837
>bombing an enemy country to end a war is equivalent to sacrificing your own comrades to profit for yourself
Griffithfags don't disappoint in their retardation. That "you're doing it for them" shit is twisted rhetoric from a literal evil figure to goad Griffith into doing the deed, because the man is so weak and desperate as to need a rationalization for it.

It isn't about his comrades: he fucking throws them to demons himself and then makes a mockery of them by recreating the band with the same demons he fed them to. It isn't about the world: he's made a mess of it. It's about himself and only himself. Griffith chose evil for his own sake. The only value others have to him are as means to achieve his ends. He'll stack bodies high to do that.
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>>152482331
Femto did that.
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>>152482802
Griffith made the sacrifice. Griffith chose to become Femto.
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>>152482802
Femto is Griffith in a mask, anon.
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Griffith’s forces were fully aware of the costs when they volunteered to serve under his command. Griffith stated his dream was to establish a nation under his rule, and that those serving under him might be part of the casualties. And guess what: some perished. Yet, somehow, Griffith is accountable for this inevitable tragedy? Despite informing these volunteers entering a contract with him of the consequences?
The honorable Griffith is currently orchestrating a new world order of peace and prosperity. This noble man of humble birth is achieving the impossible: the constitution of a utopian society involving demons and humans living in harmony with one another, a civilization where the rich and selfish have no power, a new World that flourishes on the foundation of equality and brotherhood.

Meanwhile, after Guts abandons Griffith under the pretense of being devoid of finding meaning in his pathetic existence, he still believes he can just waltz in after committing treason. As a result, Griffith is crippled and mute, the cost of living with Guts’ selfish desires. Griffith then punishes Guts for his betrayal. Yet, the merciful Griffith returns to Guts, pleading with this savage for the support of his Utopian pursuit. Guts refuses his generous offer due to imagined past transgressions.

In summary: Guts is the representation of what is wrong with the world--selfish and treacherous. Griffith only desires a world where people like Guts can no longer terrorise the weak and innocent.
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How can anyone argue that Casca did anything ethically wrong? I mean, on a really shortsighted, temporary and mortal level, she did what was "morally" wrong. However, if she told Guts that his feelings are not important, and that they can't be in a relationship unless he's willing to give up his alphaness for her cuckhold fetish, did she really do anything that lied or went against that of their relationship?
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>>152478732
you telling me you'd prefer to live your life as a living corpse?
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>>152473751
what he did was wrong for everybody else but himself.
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Griffith is the most beautiful man ever.
Literally no one mattered to him but Guts.
No one.
And what did Guts do? For the man that spared his life twice under the condition of serving him (loyalty was very important in these times) - Guts just left.
That was all fated though.
Maybe Griffith punished him for it in the eclipse, and currently I think Guts has a dream.
When he leaves Elf Island Guts will be intent on stopping Griffith's new world. Guts will literally save the world, and Griffith will show his true feelings. Griffith will take Guts to a closed off realm, and they will fight eternally together in good sport.

Miura's final page will be a ying-yang.
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>>152475340
He could refuse it like Count.
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>>152484669
Nice meme there friend, the difference is that Casca didn't say that to Guts, and if she did and he was still butthurt about it, then that's Gut's fault.
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>>152484496
I think you've switched Guts and Griffith there buddy.
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>>152479837
>Well what he did was "wrong" like dropping bombs on Japan was wrong.
Yeah, but in this case he nuked the whole damn world.
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