Jobin "Gappy Can't Be Happy" Higashikata edition. Put your tinfoil hats on, it's theory time.
So when Jobin says that he wants to be 'happy' and be happier than Gappy, I think it's similar to Johnny's situation to where he wanted to get back to zero. But instead of just staying at zero, Jobin wants to go beyond that. If we use the theory that the Corpse is still in Morioh, it could mean that Jobin may want to pull a Pucci and obtain Heaven.
>mrw Joubin actually achieves happiness that's much greater than Gappy's
I want to post this again since I spent like 10 minutes on it
Yeah, you're right. But still he's the best sperg
Ghiacchio in a JoJo fighter when?
I'll explain this shit further because I'm bored as fuck.
I think it's more-so revenge for the generational "torture" in his family. His father has been inflicted with it, he's been inflicted with it (though we don't know how that got resolved, but probably how Kaato got arrested), and now the fact that Tsurugi will face thing is probably putting heavy stress on him.
He doesn't want his father to know of his actions probably under the classic reasons of "He won't understand the sacrifice I'm doing for my family." or some gay shit. He seems to have nothing against the family, but he knows everyone outside of MILF Monster and the eldest sons in said family wouldn't truly understand his perspective and how he sees the situation. There are only two people outside of Jobin that have had/will have the curse: Fruit Dad and Tsurugi. If we go by Fruit Dad's backstory, it's likely that he'll have to sacrifice himself to save Tsurugi when his time comes, unless Jobin does his thing.
I think he also has a thing against the Joestars, given most of this shit is more-so Johnny's sacrifice, but Jobin may see it as a curse caused by the Joestars. It's also something he can pin against Gappy since he himself is a fusion of two Joestars and he knows this completely. Jobin can see him as an obstacle to his family goals and as a burden. If Gappy wins, the Joestars win, and so does the curse. If Jobin wins, the Higashikatas win. It also makes sense if Fruit Dad doesn't want anyone to look into the family records if Jobin looked through the family history and developed a grudge.
It's just a thought, though.
I'm stealing these for my own nefarious purposes. Thanks.
Considering the moral grey of the previous part I can totally see this happening and finally culminating in a climax in trying to stop the curse in Part 9 after Gappy wins. Or something like that.
Ghiaccio and Risotto definetly needs to be added to the next game if it ever happens. Their powers are just so fitting for a fighting game.
>Open arena fighter excludes the perfect fucking fit for such gameplay
EoH is shit but it would've been SOMETHING
>The corpse is actually inside the dessert shop that has the long messages where they like to boast about on how good their food is
>Joubin will go there because they to advertise that "You will be sure to find happiness" there.
Like 7. Are we doing Stand Ideas now? Because I really wanna do Stand Ideas.
Alright /jojo/, I've been told I'm reading into it too much, but I'm gonna present my idea to you anyway.
Does Josuke never appear again because part 4 is suppose to be an ephemeral, unattainable event? If JoJo's entirety is a year, is DiU supposed to be the summer that you experience and then never get back to again? Is it supposed to represent the aimlessness of youth?
Am I giving Araki too much credit?
Uncensor Anon here.
I finished off the Kira/Shinobu log/minidoujin/whatever. Warning, contains hand holding and very cute smiles.
I added a few more straight things too.
So, I wanted to burn through this: Reimi/Rohan doujin that's pretty long: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60942878
It will take my a couple mornings.
But would you like me work on that, or would you prefer some more random images I find to be done?
No Yaoi for a while.
Win against what though? They're both going after the fruit, is it limited? Is it because Norisuke is probably not gonna accept Jobin's potential solution for overcoming the curse?
Can't believe they actually added shitters like shigechi but not him.
Who could defeat Kars if he managed to return?
oh fuck i forgot to add that part when i was revising the post
If we go by the Holy Corpse theory, Jobin has the potential to both completely rid of the curse and spread it to someone else
say Gappy for good ol revenge :^)with, mind the cringe name, Speed King: Love Train.
But yeah, Fruit Dad would likely go against Jobin's ideals and ways to fight the curse. I feel like Tsurugi will become inflicted near the end of JoJolion and its in a situation where either Jobin uses the Corpse or Fruit Dad sacrifices himself and only triggers Jobin into primal rage.
I'm just saying that if the implication that the entirety of Jojo happens in a calendar year total (meaning the events of each part but not the time inbetween) that that is not true and is not a thing.
The whole growing-up and coming-of-age story thing is all well and good if you could draw some examples
But honestly, part 4 confuses me as an entry into a series more than anything else in Jojo. Because it just seems to be a big experimental transition Araki created for himself that just barely managed to work out. sometimes
Barely, while the characters do develop there isn't some hamfisted 'loss of innocence' moment for any of them. At the start of the story (not the VERY start, but like a week after it) Josuke, Koichi and Okuyasu are three students who hang out and gossip about shit, and at the end of story they're still doing that in pretty much the same way as they always were, just a little more carefree and confident in themselves.
Not if Ice leaves remains by mistake
in the hands of a competent user, maybe. But that's even harder than Cream. The Hand couldn't even kill the low-level vampire mook that was Okuyasu's dad
>White Album, maybe
Definitely. He could put Cars back into space
>Tusk Act 4 probably
He could probably incapacitate Cars, as long as Cars doesn't somehow figure out a way to counter super-spin
Yeah, I'd say so. If it could bring in another Cars
>Vitamin C, maybe
Threadly reminder that Nutman makes the girls wet
there's actually a limit to what soft and wet can steal
dont ask me what it is, ask araki, nigga could steal your god damn soul (and therefore your stand) if he had that much power
I saw it more of a 'people with stands living out their lives' type of story although the 'growing up' part happens with Hayato & Koichi. I'd say it's more than what you said.
I'm not saying that JoJo literally happens in the course of a year, obviously, or even that the evens of each part add up to a year in total, I'm just saying that part 4 feels like a summer vacation from the saga that adds up to be JoJo in its entirety.
If you really look at it, DiU is about goofing off and scamming money. Josuke is a goofball who steals and tricks people. The whole serial killer thing is secondary to it being the silly, meaningless behavior of a kid, having a summer that he'll never forget, which is a broad trope that represents growing up, experiencing life, and becoming a man.
If you don't believe me, listen to Great Days until you agree.
That would be all fine and good if the part didn't already open up dark as fuck.
Kind of jams a huge hole in that.
In the first half of part 4, Josuke has his grand-father murdered by a child rapist, Okuyasu has his brother murdered by an electric rockstar, and the cast is almost always on the verge of almost dying if it weren't for Josuke.
DIU is a Slice of Life anime with Stands and past characters returning to establish continuity.
Personally I could read/watch Parts 1-3 then skip to Part 5 and feel like I've missed nothing.
Not that I "hate" DIU, it just feels "there" in comparison to the other parts.
>rereading part 7
>getting emotional since I know what happens
>Tear up when Shigechi makes his opening appearance in the anime, because I know that innocent little boy with a pet turtle who loves his parents is going to get fucking destroyed
His death hit me harder than fucking Ceasar's did
In the anime anyways. RIP Shigechi. You deserved a happier fate and a filling lunch
>YFW some teacher is going to clean that desk drawing
>YFW they have no idea
>YFW they dont even care
Why do we always have to think about the greater implications to the tragedies of part 4?
There's no way they wouldn't have been contacted. Just because we didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Jotaro would've been mush if that was a rule; we never saw Josuke undo the barb damage.
>all of the families of Kira's victims will be waiting forever, believing they ran off somewhere and are still alive
>not knowing they've been wiped out without a trace, not even remains for a burial or memorial
Gold Experience Requiem
Reason is obvious.
Just straight erase him.
Has enough power and heat to EVAPORATE metal objects in mid air. It at least takes lava a few seconds for even a bullet. And considering Kars almost died in lava it would kill him even with taht armor of his.
Tusk Act 4
Similar situation to Valentine Except he would be stuck in an infinite state of rotating and wouldn't be able to do shit.
He would have to have near instant regeneration to be able to withstand being disintegrated. Probably similar to Perfect Cell if he still had a cell left afterwards. Would probably regenerate from that.
Assuming she can absorb Kars she could just take him over.
If it actually got hot enough. Probably not though.
Takes him over via just one wound. Would have to keep the wound open somehow from his regen though assuming the stand doesn't make that happen automatically.
Assuming it can learn everything that Kars can do.
Osiris & Atum
Takes his soul.
Writes "kill yourself" or something.
Assuming they have infinite ammo and can penetrate Kars's armor.
Can't get out.
Traped in paper. Assuming Kars can actually have fear.
Assuming it just kills and Kars can't regen it.
Assuming the mold outpaces the regen.
Take disc out have a coma now.
Rotates yo ass.
Jail House Lock
Can't fight what you can't remember.
Assuming the acid can outpace regen.
Sugar Mountain's Spring
Become new tree guardian.
Soft & Wet
Can theoretically steal his regen.
Fun Fun Fun
Controls him through injuries assuming he can keep the injuries open.
Softening isn't stopped by regen.
Fuck that took a while. I think about this too much.
I imagine Jotaro did something about it eventually. He was the most responsible person in part 4. Maybe he set something up with the Speedwagon foundation.
It's better than them waiting for him to come home forever.
Kira really is an evil fucking bastard. At least those girls can rest easy on the other side in the end. They said it best when they said Morioh is going to have deep scars for a long time
wait, something just popped up inside my head
So Sheer Heart Attack will damage anything that's within its vicinity with its blast and make it obvious right? I don't think Kira is immune to that blast.
I wonder what would happen if Koichi froze Kira, ran to SHA, and just allahu akbar'd to wipe them both out. It wouldn't end well, no shit about that, but its just a what-if. Even if Koichi got donut'd, it's better than getting blown away by no weaknesses I think.
Shigechi was one cool motherfucker. He doesn't deserve the hate he gets.
>The parents of Kira's victims probably blamed themselves for making their kids run away
>The boyfriends and husbands of Kira's victims probably thought they ran off with other men
>The pets of Kira's victims probably starved to death
Figure Gallery Rohan
Before part 8, I would've called bullshit on anybody who argued that "makes things soft" would be an OP stand ability
I LOVE IGGY plush
I meant to post this image alongside the post.
>Part 8 will be forever unloved by CC2
What is there to look forward this year? 30th anniversary, figures, OVAs, Jojolion plot, Part 5 announcement etc.?
TSKR Millionare Village OVA
Funny Valentine & D4C SASs
More JJL chapters
Probably a VA announcement this fall
Maybe a Part 8 MAD
Gappy's not even the best JoJo in his part
I stand my case, Osiris is the most OP stand since you don't need the person whose soul you wager to agree. I'd gamble and lose on purpose just to get rid of anyone. You don't even need to be close to the person...
I'm sure Araki's got something good planned if he's teasing it this much, like how we didn't know what heaven actually was until the third last chapter and once you know what it is and look back at all of Pucci's scenes and character interactions it becomes incredibly obvious why he wanted it, and really sad too. Hopefully Jobin is like that too, there's plenty of room for tragedy in his past given the little we know and I don't think he's the way he is purely due to his own actions.
is "この クソカスどもが ア" accurate to the panel?
i don't speak jap but i'm doing my best
Vitamin C is actually really fucking good, like 9/10 Stand users are disabled if it so much as touches them plus it can leave a huge, possibly infinite amount of moving hand prints with the same function on whatever it touches. Not to mention a Stand rush with like 20 arms is gonna hurt even if they're individually weak, not even taking into account that just one slight bit of contact is needed to soften them into goo.
>tfw my theory that the theme of JoJolion is "Happiness" seems to be coming true
>First Joubin fight is Beetle Tendency
>Second Joubin fight is Falcon Is Unbreakable
> You don't need the person whose soul you wager to agree
You do if they're present though, isn't that right?
> I'd gamble and lose on purpose just to get rid of anyone
What? You mean gamble against some who has Osiris wagering the soul of someone else? Because I'm pretty sure you can't gamble against yourself if you had the stand.
I dunno if we'll get a GW anime this year, there was a much longer gap between the Part 3 and Part 4 anime than there will have been between the Part 4 and Part 5 ones, and the Part 4 anime was already incredibly rushed looking with them going to air with unfinished OPs and EDs, let alone the amount of QUALITY that looked more time related than money related.
Well, I was just talking about that future event. An event just for the Jojo anime? In the year of the 30th anniversary? It's obvious what are they going to do there. My bet is we'll see a very little teaser, a key illustration and the cast list. But apart form that, yeah, I suppose we're months away from the first real teaser / trailer / PV.
Vitamin C is powerful but nowhere near unbeatable. Hato was completely unharmed by it as soon as Gappy took her outside the range of the house, for instance, and she was able to attack him as she pleased from there.
>You do if they're present though, isn't that right?
Meh not officially
>Because I'm pretty sure you can't gamble against yourself if you had the stand.
You ask a buddy to help you. You can even get rid of several people in one poker game. Just play legit but wager soul of people you dislike.
>They announce Hyperdimension Neptunia season 2
Every single scene where that piece of trash Giorno struggles for his puny life.
>Gold Experience Requiem in full animated glory
please don't pull a fucking killer queen on him DP
>Narancia and Aerosmith
>Mista and Sex Pistols
>comfy Italian visuals
>Anime-onlyfags' reactions to Polnareff dying and living inside a turtle
>Doppio vs the guy with Metallica
It's not Abbacchio, in spite of being a total shitwad to Giorno he actively tried to sacrifice himself to let Giorno survive to complete a mission.
>Footfags were whining about her creepy toes
Footfags have really weird standarts
>actually caring about some greedy little jew and 47 sluts and whores
There probably is, honestly.
Semi-related but there was a doujin posted in here lately that had spazoid Fugo walking in on Abbacchio and a random chick (!) he was fucking, but then it turned into Abbacchio fucking Fugo.
>but then it turned into Abbacchio fucking Fug
To be into feet at all is pretty weird. Abbachio probably has a piss fetish though which is even weirder
>8 chapters long
>they'll probably split it in half, so 4 chapters per episode
>the first ends right on Giorno seemingly dead with zero indication he's alive
Please let this happen.
Miike has more misses than hits. Sixties and seventies Japan had a ton of creative wacky directors who could have made something truly special out of the source material had it existed back then, but Miike's stuff feels kind of lethargic in comparison. Just compare his Yokai movie to Spook Warfare.
Here you go. Has a bunch of weird stuff I forgot about in it, like Fugo getting gangraped by Bioshock Splicers.
The more I think about it Abbachio is either a jealous girlfriend or angry dad depending on the situation.
> Pump and dump tier
Waifu material at the very least senpai
Giorno is a filthy slut.
>Guzzled down Abbacchio's piss like a seasoned champion
>Tongued Bruno's asshole till he trusted him
>Molested Mista at least twice
>Molested Narancia at least once and emotionally traumatized him with his sluttish ways
I think it's more angry dad because of self-loathing issues. Giorno's pretty much the same as him when he was younger - idealistic and pure-intentioned, but Giorno manages to remain like that whereas Abbacchio let life wear him down until he made a bad call, which would later get his partner killed and ruin his life. It's why Abbacchio sticks so rigidly to the mission when working for Buccellati, and why he flipped his shit at Giorno when he wanted to focus on saving Fugo over getting the key.
There's also probably a level of jealousy there too, Abbacchio's very stand shows his mental trauma and weaknesses (It can replay a memory from every angle but is powerless to change it, just like Abbacchio thinking over his own mistakes) whereas Giorno's comes up with a new ability every two fights, and Giorno himself is always right due to being the MC.
>Abbacchio's very stand shows his mental trauma and weaknesses (It can replay a memory from every angle but is powerless to change it, just like Abbacchio thinking over his own mistakes
Fucking hell, never caught that.
Delet, Abbachio is purest husband. I'd marry him and help him get over his past mistakes
Not enough time while doing gang shit most likely
I want to fuck Abbacchio in the ass against his will until he gives up on life and just lets it happen, then stop immediately and call him a faggot for not fighting it and enjoying it to make him realise there's always a level below where he's at that I can make him stoop to.
Most of the mentally damaged/fragile characters have stands representing their issues in some sort of way.
>Purple Haze is an uncontrollable, nondiscriminatory viability that threatens his friends
>King Crimson lets Diavolo escape his fate as he pleases
>Surface takes on the form of other people and constantly insults Hazemada, projecting his self-loathing and how he thinks everyone looks down on him
>Aerosmith is just a toy
>Green Day fucking kills everything
>White Snake is a resented emo towards its master
Buccellati's a good guy, but he doesn't seem very emotionally intelligent. He alienates Trish a bunch of times due to this in spite of only wishing the best for her.
On the bright yet tragic side, the only time he really started to show signs of caring about doing the right thing and feeling genuine passion and righteousness was after he got on the boat. Killed mere hours after he finally regained the will to live again, pretty brutal.
>He alienates Trish a bunch of times
>This was fucking Doppio
>Trish never learned that he cared
> Ywn cuddle Abbachio at night
> Never get to hold him as he cries
> Never see him in the morning with a new shine to his eyes
Are you ready for Gappy to graft limbs to Dolomiti so he doesn't look like a complete tool for beating a helpless guy to death ala a hardcore version of what happened to Yuya?
I mean, seriously, Rock Human or not, Josuke can't just straight-up beat up on a maimed torso. It would look awkward and undignified.
What if we get 5 pages of Gappy beating a cripple to death with a shovel? No Stands, no trying to make it look cool, nothing to make it funny, just a guy beating a disabled man to death with a shovel while he begs for his life. Then right afterwards everything goes back to normal and no one ever mentions or brings up just how fucked up the situation was.
I can't wait for the part 5 anime to come out so that this stops being used as a catch-all retort to any criticism about the part.
>Implying Gappy knows or gives a shit about the concept of mercy
Reminder that rock niggers aint ningen
How is it bad though? Not him but I want to know what people have against it besides GER being too convenient even though we knew it was going to win the battle immediately anyway.
If something like that happened I'd legitimately start to think that Gappy might be the most morally-grey JoJo in the series, maybe even villain material. Not complaining because that'd be something else entirely.
I still find it difficult to believe people don't think Araki improves with each Part. I know it has a lot to do with translations and speedreading and the English fanbase have been pretty cucked on those fronts for years but still.
I just wanted a cuddly conversation about my husband :(
>favorite male character
>favorite female character
>least favorite male character
>least favorite female character
King Crimson vs Metallica
The bohemian rhapsody guy
White album. Fucking pumped for part 5 anime
I don't know, I've read a few 2ch threads before where people complained about it just as they do here.
I get this is anecdotal evidence and I don't even feel like searching for those threads anymore, but so is yours.
The "JoJo's entirety is a year" is complete bullshit but you are kind of right about DiU being sort of an eternal thing, the part that never really grows up and is just always that 1999 Bizarre Summer.
>With ‘Diamond is Unbreakable’ … with the town of Morioh, I wanted to trap it into a world of ‘eternity’. Like would the wife have been happy if she knew that her husband was no longer the same person? If she realized it, it would be a bit boring right? So I was fine with that state continuing forever and no answer being resolved. Within myself, Morioh will forever be in that state. What happened to Josuke after the series? I don’t think about that at all. Morioh is ‘eternal’.
>With Kira's death, I wanted to make Morioh seem "eternal". In my mind, Morioh just stayed the same, so things such as "what happen to Josuke afterwards," aren't that important.
>If I had the opportunity to write more, I would really like to. Part 4 isn't really finished yet. If I decided to continue it, I could as much as I want
Orson Welles once remarked that whether a story's ending is happy or sad depends on where do you finish the story, and I'd say this principle applies to Part 4 more so than any other part.
What in CH.61 the stand ability is what happened to the stand user. He will start to "see" someone who isn't well, and try to save them.
He will think its yashiuo, but its actually just the stand as an illusion. And before he gets hurt, he bumps into the real yashuio, before being defeated by the stand user/joubin.
In this picture you notice near the heavy set guy, there is a woman who resembles the woman in ch60 who is blind, that the antagonist trys to save but she just gets up and leaves.
>maybe his stand, maybe just an illution that he formed in his own mind
>just spit balling ideas
It just felt lazy. Too random and too convenient, even for jojo's standards.
It became a 'who is going to take the arrow first' run, something that was brought to us literally at the end of the arc... with Polnareff casually waiting for someone looking for Diavolo.
No reason for soul shifting, no reason for people randomly dying due to Polnareff's Silver Chariot Requiem. It doesn't even fit it thematically.
You expect for Giorno with his already ultra versatile stand to come up with something really cool to counter KC but instead you just get a 'no, you don't' from his Requiem form.
Still, the ending doesn't makes Vento Aureo a bad arc. It just could have been way better.
A back view of her, to show similarity.
What do they even do? Just make meme videos with anime footage?
She just gets up and walks away
>but DEAF TOO!?
Highly unlikely, I doubt she would leave his side to randomly go walk around
And ok, I can understand if there is a mental issue but come on, why the hell would he leave her to roam all alone if hes just going to save her from being electructed.
>wouldn't he try to look for her if she was, blind, deaf, or mentally ill
My assumption, its all in his head, just as that kid can make you hallusinate into seeing everyone and everthing as the same person so can this ability
>favorite male character
>favorite female character
>least favorite male character
>least favorite female character
the one from the boom boom family, forgot her name
Doppio vs Metallica
>torturing, raping, killing, beating little kids, beating old people
Holy fucking shit, does Gappy have no boundaries or what ? Where is the line for him ? Protagonist my ass, this is full pledged antagonist.
It's a low blow but someone he can't just ignore should accuse him of misogyny or something, watching dumbasses scrabbling for their dignity and explaining themselves at length is hilarious.
I just felt sorry for this guy.
>Bullied mercilessly by his dad and brother
>Dumb and obedient to a fault like a child, there was no way attacking Johnny and Gyro was his idea
>Left holding his fathers body and crying in the desert where he probably died alone
I hope we get an arc where Josuke accompanies Joshu back to his old summer camp where they work through his demons and find out the guy who diddled him is still working there, then Josuke looks Joshu in the eye and says 'Are you thinking what I'm thinking Joshu?" then they both smile and use their Stands to brutally beat him within an inch of his life then use NKC to put his head where his dick is meant to be then leave him to his fate. This is also how Gappy gets Joshu on his side against Jobin.
I don't think he'd be much of a cuddler honestly.
>Abbacchio's idea of being sweet is offering to call chicks a cab
>Josuke looks Joshu in the eye and says 'Are you thinking what I'm thinking Joshu?"
>Josuke teams up with the guy who diddled Joshu and restrains him while they rape him as a team, hi-fiving while Nutman gets spitroasted
>'You remember your place, you filthy faggot cocksuckeeeeeeer~!'
He used to be a little cutie but he purposefully made himself ugly as a defence mechanism so no one would try to rape him again, but now as he's gotten older and no longer needs it he can't seem to shake free from it due to the trauma. When he does break free from it and tries to look good he ends up looking even worse so Josuke tells him to just stop trying and Joshu just gives in to fate.
>nobody in part 5 even interacts with chicks
Mista seemed to be attracted to them at least, Buccellati barely seemed to know what they were let alone how they worked though.
>'Here Trish, piss in this zipper-hole in the closet I made you'
>"I'll show you a REAL Nut King Call!"
>proceeds to scream incredibly loudly while emptying all four of his balls up Joshu's asshole
>camp counsellor pedophile says 'Y-yeah, what h-he said" then leaves
>Josuke throws a thousand yen bill on the ground near Joshu's face, who is now curled up in the fetal position on the ground with a black eye and cum leaking from his exposed ass
>"It's not much but you might be able to get a taxi like a quarter of the way home. You can pay for the rest of the way with your disgusting body. Bitch."
>spits on him and walks away
What the fuck was Araki thinking with that chapter?
With the exception of Abbachio and Giorno they've all been in the gang since they were pretty young so we're too focused on work, plus the gang seems almost entirely male so they probably have had very little contact with women.
Plus look at how they dress, not one of them are straight.
It'd be retarded if they weren't, female stand-users in JoJo are every bit as capable of being strong fighters as the male ones. Fucking Dio was an eighteenth-century nobleman and even he figured out it'd be fucking dumb to make his army a sausage-fest, as seen with Nena, Enya, Midler, Mariah etc.
>seven (7) fucking pages of Josuke driving his cock in inch by inch until Joshu literally can't take anymore then shoving in another two inches for good measure and going to town while the camp guy is making himself at home in his mouth and ears
That was not ok Araki.
That'd be pretty fucking funny considering the dicksucker fans he has constantly rush to defend his hate for part 6 by saying shit like "Jolyne is genuinely unlikable" or "People only like Jolyne because she's a girl."
Genuinely, his reasons are pretty shit.
>he doesn't wanna fuck every last bit of dignity out of Joshu in his most vulnerable moment
He's gross sure, but you can use protection and technically never touch him.
I think the MCs would be autismal about killing women tbqh.
Soft & Wet is literally a meme palette
Jolyne-haters are really weird. It's perfectly fine and valid to dislike or be indifferent to a fictional character for pretty much any reason, but so many people who actively hate Jolyne seem to completely misinterpret her, loudly hate their own inaccurate idea of her, and then insist that everyone who likes the character only does so because she makes their genitals move.
What's even weirder are the people who hate her for being 'rude and arrogant' but adore characters like Joseph and Gyro. You can appreciate a girl character without judging her on whether she'd make a good GF or not.
>start a new jojo part
>initially hate everything about it
>wish i was reading the previous part instead
>continue to read more chapters and begin to get a feel for what this part is all about
>begin to like the setting,characters and villain
>holy shit this may be my favourite part!
>read the final chapters
>ending is so anti-climatic that it ruins the whole part for me
>feel empty inside
>do i even like jojo?
>go on to read the next part
pic very fucking related
I was waiting for you to post that...
Araki said he was uncomfortable at the idea of drawing women being brutalized before he really leaped into it in part 6 (and realized that really, there shouldn't be any difference between women and men in that regard) so I'm sure he'd have been uncomfortable at writing his team of heroes killing women.
If you keep this in mind it kind of makes sense about how he handled female enemies or victims in previous parts, Kira's killing of women all happened technically off-screen (even Minako) and was instantaneous, Yukako wasn't harmed in her fight with Koichi, and Mariah and Midler were beaten up non-graphically in cartoony ways.
Nena and Enya had pretty gruesome deaths, but Nena's was meant to be shocking/funny and Enya's was actively sad.
As much as I adore her she's rude as hell, she's got issues with authority and often goes out of her way to snark at assholes. Seeing her dealing with the prison staff and unruly inmates like this was great, it also made her interactions with her friends seem a lot more organic.
She's not arrogant though, she's one of the more humble JoJos along with Josuke and actively questions herself, something few of the others ever did. Hatefags are weird though, they'll say that Jolyne being smug and condescending towards a foe she's about to give a huge, deserved beatdown to makes her arrogant, even though literally every other JoJo (even Jonathan) does this.
I dunno, isn't it sort of the opposite? Old people are highly respected in Japanese society (hence the Crewsaders bowing respectfully to Enya when she invited them to her hotel) and they were all horrified by Steely Dan and his assistance with DIO betraying her. In spite of her being an enemy and trying to kill them all, Jotaro said that his punishment was for her as well as Joseph and his own humiliation.
Yeah, he said as much, that as soon as he started writing a bunch of girls (including them getting beaten the fuck up) it came pretty easily to him, whereas in the other parts he said he'd often wanted to give the female characters bigger roles but felt he wouldn't do it well.
She did, but it was fucking Loony Tunes stuff. Although it makes you wince, it's funny, and not nearly as confronting or upsetting as lots of later stuff. Compare this to Jolyne's hand being turned inside-out by C-Moon or Hermes' head being chewed open by Sports Maxx.
I dunno, seeing her genuine grief over J.Geil made it hard for me to dehumanize her. She was a horrible old bitch to be sure, but at the same time she loved her son and she loved DIO, and completely refused to believe that the latter would ever betray her even in her agonizing death-throes. I can see why the Crewsaders would be outraged by her treatment.
It's more "okay" in the sense that Enya is a crazy old witch who's not even really drawn to look like an actual human, so Araki feels more comfortable with putting her in scenarios that he'd never put younger, more attractive female villains. People don't have much of a problem with characters like Enya getting humiliated or beaten bloody because she doesn't ever give us the impression that she's a normal person. She's a crazy cartoon hag who's not sexy nor cute, so Araki just treats her like he would a normal villain. She's just as much of a horror movie monster as characters like J.Geil or Alessi. It sounds weird but that's just how it works.
It's not like he doesn't like Enya, of course not. He certainly gave her a tragic death scene which she deserved and a very important role in the series. It's just that she is not held down by the kind of standards most female characters are, despite being an old lady
>favorite male character
>favorite female character
>least favorite male character
>least favorite female character
I genuinely found charming the part when Joseph is buying kebabs he buys one for her
I really liked watching Pol and Enya interact with each other.
>Gappy learns how to use Killer Queen's powers
oh fuck, if lizardanon was here we could shoop that onto him.
Give me the lizard and ill make magic
THE ONE TIME FOR MEME MAGIC AND I DONT HAVE THE IMAGE
GET YOUR ASS OUT HERE LIZARDANON
Dont worry, I got this, Im using this one from lizardanon since well, [PERFECTION]
Always here for your shitposting needs. Besides, you guys are good people. These threads help cheer me up, like when I was upset and the vetruvian ballsack thread started.
The /vp/ drawthreads might need you guys sometimes, because it can become a fucking shitshow because of recent events
>favorite male character
>favorite female character
>least favorite male character
Dunno, probably Ungalo
>least favorite female character
The girl from part 3
I can't really choose. Grateful Dead, Tattoo You!, The World and D4C are all fantastic
Well to put it short hand, artists have been leaving due to people shitting bricks in the drawthreads and arguing, I even compared it to /trash/ draw threads to see how bad it got. Now pretty much one thing starts a fucking war now.
For example, right now on the current thread, they are arguing on an artist drawing Dawn with darker skin
TL:DR people are acting like fucking children on the internet for the first time instead of appreciating quality art like this delivery from earlier. But thats more corss board problems
Why are people getting their shit rustled over fucking skin?
So long as its not full Tumblr fucking blackskin on every character.
Also finished the iguono
Being a drawfag myself this desolate me, when you are offered a cake, you don't judge the taste
I fucking know, its disgusting, granted with the cake analogy, you may not like the flavor of cake, but you still appreciate the effort and offer out of principle. As Scatman John said, Scatman, Fatman, Black,white,or brown man, tell me about the color of your soul.
To transition a bit back on topic, first, I love the fucking Lizard Kars, and two, speaking of Scatman, why hasnt he been refrenced in Jojo yet?
So the lizard is gonna be the horse or clock man???
You guys talkin shit?
Either or, or Both, maybe even replace the head you didnt use with something else.
Give me a minute and I can try to dig up some of Lizard's other pictures I saved.
HE HAS AWOKEN
So... are /pol/drones gonna come in and spam the threads with valentine all day today?
I just shared it because I thought it was good fan-art and it was fitting for the occasion.
I can post more to celebrate.
Fuck it, go for it, it probably get a chuckle out of me, as long as gappy has the glowing eyes as well, then it'll be perfect
ITS TOO LATE