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Why is this manga so shit and why do people read such shit?

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Why is this manga so shit and why do people read such shit?
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>>152455315
It makes them feel euphoric.
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>>152455315
Pretty good desu
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>>152455315
The manga is quite the CIRCUS.
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>Tokyo Ghoul
>Shit
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>>152455315
its bretty gud mango anon
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Cause he jumps on a fucking train in the latest chapter.
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>>152455315
you will find the same shit posters who will say the opposite since they are in denial and they are fat and from leddit. Not /a/theists though since /a/theist really just care about watching shows then dickridding them. I bet they are the same retards that defend ducklips the anime.

>>152456630
yes shit. Dropped this shitty series immediately after mangaka's obnoxious shit writing
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>>152455315
>Why is this manga so shit
Ishida is a hack
>why do people read such shit?
No exit
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The first series was good, but the second series became an absolute clusterfuck. It's like what happened with D.Gray Man. Are nips incapable of writing gothic manga for extended periods of time?
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The first part was good. I'm here for the memes with the second part, I simply have followed it for too long.
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>>152455315
Because we all secretly love best boy
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>>152455315
>why do people read such shit?
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>>152455315

Cons
- the anime
- characters way too edgy
- really bad world building, basic things are not explained properly
- just focuses on showing edgy characters in edgy situations saying edgy one-liners that are probably a version of "I will kill you now"
- author desperately tries to make you feel something for the characters but it's too much
- fandom full of 12 year old emos

Pros
- Touka
- great art style
- some good plot elements
- Tsukiyama
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>>152455315
I used to read it because the art.
I also love the anime eds because the music and art.
Everything feels chill as fuck.
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>>152460447
>Pros
>Touka
Opinion discarded.
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At least the females look fuckable.
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>>152460447
>Being a Toucuck
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Because from the very start I saw myself in Kaneki and now want to know how everything will end. Also, overall plot is quite entertaining, good characters and the universe itself is really interesting. Definitely best "superpowers" I ever seen, that are fun, not overpowerd and come with a price. Bonus good artstyle and shitposting
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>>152455315
It has its flaws but for a weekly series that almost never takes breaks, its pretty consistently decent.

Probably better than most of the shit you read.
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>>152458502
That scene was honestly pretty cool. I wonder if kaneki was actually pressured by those guys or if he just didn't want to take the time to properly fight them.
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>>152455315
Part1 was actually pretty good but the sequel is a lackluster. It feels like the plot isn't moving forward at all recently.
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So, one meh arc and now the series is shit? The arc after that hasn't even been bad. I don't get why shit like One Piece gets a pass after being consistently mediocre since the time skip with only a few moments of actual good action/adventure?

>>152461786
>It feels like the plot isn't moving forward at all recently.
Kaneki just set up his own organization and the streets of Tokyo are descending into a three way war. What the fuck are you on about?
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oshiete yo oshiete yo
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>>152460553
I cannot tell how many characters are in that image.
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>>152461825
You're retarded.
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>>152461852
Well I am still reading Tokyo Ghoul, so I guess I can't really deny that.
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>>152455315
Can't drop it because Tsukiyamafag.
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>>152455315
The first manga series was great. :re is not so great.

I like it for story reasons, but the designs and premise of the series is just something normies flock too. The characters are chic and have that emo fashion going. Plotwise, it's easy to self insert, with the Team v Team aspect of the plot. Hell,Ghouls can't eat anything human except coffee, so the hang around cafes and shit. It's pretty much built for tumblr. Plus there's room for Tarot theories to, why hasn't matpat gotten in on this shit?

>>152461822
I fucking hate that song.
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>>152461807
>It was obvious
>I've never read it

Literally retarded.
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Post your favourites, OP.
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it's like the perfect weeb bait, literally "mature" naruto

it's the perfect mix of angsty pretty boys, melodrama, shock value scenes, half assed symbolism and fashionable dark esthetics that make tumblrinas and fans of the uchiha clan feel intelligent and sophisticated because they know what a tarot card is
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>>152462984
Best girl Hinami and pic related for some reason.
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>>152455315
It's just edgy shounen fun, why are you so mad?
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BEST MANGA I EVER RED
the only one i read want one with dark themes and emo shit but can't find other than the non ending berserk
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>>152462756
>anime
>judging content by skimming with little to no context and by an objective shit fanbase unrelated to the author's story.
>muh meme buzzwords


Yes. And you have demonstrably affirmed you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
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>>152466321
Yes.
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>>152460447
>really bad world building, basic things are not explained properly
which is ?
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>>152455315
the manga isn't necessarily bad but the fanbase are retarded they would start an sjw bullshit over mutsuki gender who is biologically a female
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Tokyo ghoul is literally shit
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>>152468570

- what do ghouls do in their free time
- can ghouls have babies
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>>152469812
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>>152466321
Deny what? Having actual exposure to the content, as opposed to blatant shitposting, I know what I am talking about. Up until the previous shitty arc, TG was the farthest from "shounen" where clearly Ishida was pandering to Bleachfags. Ishida told a damn good story with masterful foreshadowing and clever use of psychoanalysis along with engaging characterization. Now that the battle shounen garbage that was Cochlea is over, it's finally picking back up. TG is no masterpiece, but it is not some edgefest faggots like you meme about. Then again, "edgy" on /a/ just means there are is no SoL and lolis for you to jackoff to, so I guess it's edge incarnate by your standards

>>152466670
Fuck off. You aren't me.
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>>152460447

Touka is just Sakura but edgier.

Lol at great art style, when its barely better than SNK.
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>>152455315
It was good until he got the white hair.

The more manga I read, the more I'm starting to wonder if they should end it at around 8 volumes or so.

I used to think manga/anime was superior to cartoons because American channels abruptly cancelled shows and reran them to infinity but Japs are just as bad with how much they milk their shows as well.
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The Qs arent the same ever since Sharky died, they just feel like filler characters.
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This recent topic:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/152333567/#152333567
is quite relavant to the "discussion" going on here.
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>>152469812
have you not read the manga they address the baby part.
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>>152472147

Nah they believe TG is the best Seinen in the history of the industry.
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>>152472246
Which literally never happened. Nice.
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was considering rereading it from the beginning, never picked it back up after the saga ended with him dying / losing his memory, does he get it back in RE? kinda influences my decision
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>>152472359
Literally No u. Back in 2013/14. No one hated on it like today (which is well deserved though) nor did anyone ever compare it to Naruto. Shill your narrative somewhere else, you'll never fit in.
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>>152472490
No, I'm not. You're just a liar talking nonsense.
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>>152462292
>still reading TG/ :re
>can't tell how many characters are in that picture
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>>152455315
How many more times are we gonna have this thread until you realize that you aren't 1) getting a sufficient answer 2) convince anybody of your opinion
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>>152472735
For you. Don't project your anxieties on what actually happened and invent shit.
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>>152472246
>called it edgy
true but /a/ calling anything edgy loses its meaning after a while

>>152472735
>changing the argument
nice
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>>152472735
Looks like you got talked into a corner huh
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Re is a mistake
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>>152472992
>gets called out for making shit up
>y-your moms
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
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>>152472147
Ishida actually does make good use of Freud and Jung psychology in the story, especially in its subtlety. But I'm sure you'll jump on the bandwagon and go all >hurrdurr pretentious le tryhard XD
which is the obligatory "response" on /a/ despite not actually being familiar with the manga. It's just a tool for storytelling. No one with a brain thinks Ishida is some literary genius.

>>152472185
TGfag here. Speak for your fucking self. It's great and among the best selling seinen in Japan, but not a damn soul here or in that thread thinks its godtier writing and worships it like your retarded post seems to suggest. That's where reddit comes in, where Ishida can shit on paper and they will find "symbolism" in the shit smears.
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>>152472992
the argument was that everyone and their mother called TG edgy in the beginning and that only narutards were reading it.
then you said it stinked from the beginning which is subjective.
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>>152472992
lmao
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>>152473150
Are you unironically crying right now?
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>>152473150
didnt say it did, just said you changed the argument
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>>152473150
>One thing doesn't contradict the other.
Actually it contradicts the discussion flow.

>Say X
>People say no Y was the case
>Yeah, but Z anyway
You basically admitted that you lied.
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>>152473078

Justin Bieber has also made a good chunk of $$$$$ in his career, does that mean he was talented?
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>>152473150
>>152472992
>>152472735
>>152472490
>>152472359
>>152472246
Retard of the thread.
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>>152473150
Not him, but why are you trying to keep up this lie? Before the anime (when faggots started posting EDGE like mantra) TG discussions were fucking dead and not many talked about it. Especially with THS taking forever and kawa skipping around chapters (later dropping it.) Anons had to step in and finish up. This manga received no recognition from /a/ in mass until the anime. And with that, we had an onslaught of faggots spamming "edge" from a clip of the anime and only then once it was popular did faggots start the nardo shit comparisons.
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>>152473321
Well he can sing. And is a singer. Making bad music doesn't mean that he sings bad.
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>>152473321
Why are you quoting me? I *explicitly* said Ishida's writing isn't perfect. Did you just read one line out of that post and went off on it? Or are you clinically retarded?
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>>152473539
I won't even read this post, the way it looks is enough. Kill yourself, butthurt cancer.
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>>152458502
That was cool
Are spoilers out?
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>>152473539
>They're one and the same, it stinked and people kept away from it.
>changing the argument, again
>this thread shows otherwise
im done. I'll let the crows pick your corpse
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>>152473539
>Nope, TG was always considered emo kiddie shit.
>Baby anon has to keep pulling shit out of ass to maintain his image.
We all know you're full of shit. Time to give up on trying to fit in. It's okay if you don't like Tokyo Ghoul, but trying to lie and pretend /a/ was your echo chamber only makes you look even more fucking retarded.
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>>152473539
autism
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I like most of the characters. I like the fights. Some of the arcs are pretty well written. And he can draw asses
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>>152455315
The only good thing is the drawing. The plot is predictable and the characters are cliché.
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>>152473956
The point is that several proved you wrong already, so its you who doesnt know what youre talking about.
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>>152469100
That's the most hateful things about those so call fans.
They destroy a pretty attractive tomboy character.
Even now, there are people out there still use he to describe her because of those "fans" and the wiki they made.
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>>152469100
Not just biological, she thinks as female too. I don't know what are those people thinking when time and time again
mutsuki is show to be a girl.
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>>152460923
sauce on gif for cringe pl0x
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>>152474121
I'm seeing half a dozen people remember how it actually was without rehashing each other against you who keeps repeating his lies who no one believes. Guess, who I trust.
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kek based mods.
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>>152455315

I enjoyed the first TG, but Re is sorta dragging for me. So many characters, many of whom die without ever doing anything particularly important, several characters hyped to fuck only to job and die aganist random tards. Escalation of kagune powers also sorta annoys me. First series had types, then full body version, second series introduces retarded shaped ones, detachable ones, people with more than one type. I preferred the original thing of some ghouls being simply more skillful/powerful but having the same tools to work with.

Still reading, not mad (most of the time), but feel Re doesn't quite have the appeal the first series did. Going to read to the end either way just to see how it goes. If its good, great. If it's terrible, also great, I love trainwrecks.
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>>152474572
>second series introduces retarded shaped ones, detachable ones, people with more than one type. I preferred the original thing of some ghouls being simply more skillful/powerful but having the same tools to work with.
but that's exactly what the second series did, showed you there was more than the conventional way of using the kagune. and honestly this feels like the natural progression of the abilities

> So many characters, many of whom die without ever doing anything particularly important, several characters hyped to fuck only to job and die against random tards.
or people not dying, seriously 2 out of 3 of the kirishimas should have died. feels like ishida has terrible execution when dealing with characters he's hyped up.

>but feel Re doesn't quite have the appeal the first series did.
this is probably just me but I feel like starting this series right after TG was a mistake. should have waited like a couple of years to work on the story while he does something else especially since hes a workaholic, or so ive heard.
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>>152474073
spoilers???
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>>152474572
>but feel Re doesn't quite have the appeal the first series did
I feel you there. While TG was all about Kanekis transformation into a ghoul and all the implied consequences, :re is about "guess I'm the chosen one" and ghoul world politics, which is a lot more hit or miss mostly a miss
On the other hand, I did like how some supposedly big characters just vanished out of plain sight.
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>>152474812
It's from an Omake iirc
Saiko blushes after Urie told her that seeing her eases his daily troubles, and therefore she loses her game with the Qs
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>>152474987
dont tell me that my second queen is in love with urine
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>>152460447
>Pros
>Touka
>Tsukiyama
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So when did you guys stop caring about the manga?
I stopped really caring around the time best Q died.
His death wasn't the reason why I stopped caring, but it definitely was around that time did I stopped going to the threads.
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>>152473346
This is actually amazing.
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>>152474572
>second series introduces retarded shaped ones, detachable ones, people with more than one type
But these were all already introduced in the first series, just not developed upon.
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Im just annoyed by the biggest plot hole which is ghouls needing to eat humans.
Its the most contrived bs ever, its essentially just a magic curse a god put on you.
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>>152474572
This is what happens when a manga is successful and the editor tells the author to stretch the thing over a longer amount of time in order to make more $$$.
TG was never good (I liked the first tomes' art though) but it certainly got out of hand.
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>>152460553
>no Hairu
Anon...
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>>152481282
>calling this garbage manga garbage is the same as calling a whole genre garbage
How about you get some goddamned taste?
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>>152481335
Complaining in general, I'll admit I was over exaggerating there.
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I really dig the character designs and the clothes.
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>>152479130
I never stopped "caring", but it was around chapter 69 when I became very critical of the writing. Too many contrivances (read: asspulls) and it required an incredible amount of suspension of disbelief. I still enjoyed it, mind you, as Kaneki vs Arima r2 was my most anticipated event for :re. But aside from that and the Mutsuki/Torso subplot on Rueshima, I was mostly disappointed. It felt like an entirely different mangaka was behind it. But after chapter 86, it was over. I have never experienced the same "hype" I used to every Saturday morning. It just died. At that point, :re became to formulaic and felt like any other manga to me. It used to be a rollercoaster, an experience. It's getting better now, but I lost a lot of faith in Ishida after Cochlea/Rueshima. The fact I still have yet to import vol 8 and 9 is tantamount to that. I hope the quality never sinks that low again.
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>>152479389
yeah seriously, if it said they needed blood then we can work something out, and don't know how they gonna survive off coffee alone. basically asking an entire species to starve and die. so this coexistence shit is stupid.
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>>152479389
>>152481731
>yeah seriously, if it said they needed blood then we can work something out
Are you two speed readers or did you just watch the anime? Why ghouls need to feed on humans is completely explained. Why ghouls evolved that was is what is currently unknown.
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>>152481903
>that way
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