One Piece

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I love SanjixNami lots and lots.

>>152353806
If he survives:
Joins fleet with his crew.

If he dies:
Good

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>JOIN MY CREW

Reminder that Two Piece with Teach's son as protagonist will be a thing

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What the meaning of gender bending, bros?

>>152353806
>>152353893
Caesar, Carrot > Jinbe > anyone else

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>>152353942

God tier taste

>>152353880
>Joins fleet with his crew.

>who is Aladine
Fucking speedreaders

>>152353942
>Caesar, Carrot
I want at least one of them to join

>>152353942
caesar,carrot>bonney>monet>jinbe

Only Pedro is dying this arc

>>152353880
>"Hey Luffy, remember when I promised I’ll be joining your crew at Fishman Island? Well, I just remembered that I already have a crew. Sorry."

Really?
If Jinbe didn’t want to join because of his old mates, he would have said it at the Fishman's Island.
Also, his crew has Aladine, so they don’t really need him.

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Have a nice day, anon!

>oda might die before he can draw luffy and hancock's son growing up with his harem on kuja island

>>152354443
>oda and hancock
>not continue adventures with Vivi

>>152354443
>son

Reread Amazon Lily and try not just looking at the pictures this time.

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ODA, WHERE'S MY NIGGA ZORO?

>>152353942
Caesar's too far gone to join the crew, plus he'd be redundant with Chopper and his fruit is too OP.

Carrot's a safer bet but she's pretty boring on her own, plus I don't really see how she could grow.

Jinbei's the most likely option.

>>152354568
BUT NOBODY LIKES JINBE

>>152354487
>implying Luffy isn't a special snowflake that breaks tradition
>>152354364
>>152353880
Jinbei already left his crew, retards. Did you guys speed read that chapter?
He crew LITERALLY told him to go join Luffy. Aladdin took over the sun pirates.

>>152354638
Why are you quoting my post? Speed reading maybe?

>>152354638
You're right.
He is so dead lmao.

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>>152353806
Year of Jinbe's death

>>152354605
But I like Jinbei.

Only problem is that he doesn't have a dream beyond "I want fishmen and humans to get along", but becoming a pirate is probably not the way to go for that.

>>152354805
No you don't

>>152354805
Like him so much you spell his name wrong.

Jinbei really isn't interesting enough and is too powerful to be a part of the crew. He's going to be a fleet leader

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Jinbe will make One Piece good again

>>152354945
He left his crew already, retard.

>>152354805
>But I like Jinbei.
I'm a fan of Zolo!

>>152354945
He might be barely above Sanji and that's it, but in my own opinion Sanji's probably stronger.

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>Thinking anyone in New World will join
You all got memed.

Oda please bring back Boa.

>>152354978
>Vinsmoke "I job to Vice Admirals and shichibukais" Sanji
>stronger than Jinbe

>>152354950
He actually made One Piece shit again
>Jinbe appears
>next chapter is garbage

>>152355031
>Impel down
>garbage

>>152355074
I'm talking about WCI faggot
and literally every other character in Impel Down was more interesting than Jinbe anyway

I really liked Jimbe's speech to Luffy when he woke up after Ace's death. Also the blood donation chapter.

If he doesn't join the SH I hope he becomes somewhat of a regular, I want him to meet Koala and Sabo.

Why don't they get Shanks's help? Surely he'd want to avenge his fallen nakama.

So who do you think will be the Yonkos of the next generation? All I can think is Law, and probably Bege.

>>152355163
Who?

>>152355199
Luffy will be the Pirate King, there won't be any need for emperors.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/12130952

>>152355284
Anyone who says they want him to join is lying

>>152355199
Law has no interest in being a Yonko. I don't think any of the Yonko will lose it's position, even Shanks. The only thing that makes me think is Drake going after Kaido as the first thing he did after entering the New World. Maybe he wants to usurp Kaido's title? I don't know.

>>152355199
What do you mean

>>152355356
>>152355372

When the story is over, Blackbeard and Big Mom, and even Kaido will get dethroned from what I see. Shanks will probably remain and will be the next Whitebeard.

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DAT Heart of Gold twist at the end made me cum twice.

>>152355199
Yonkos will probably stop existing.

And Law is too weak for being a Yonko

Why is Blackbeard a Yonko anyway

>>152355432
Why not?

>>152355432
Because he hunted and defeated most of the remaining WB pirates.

Plus now he's got a whole armada to back him up.

>>152355451
i was under the impression you become a yonko once you hold a massive chunk of territory/islands
but because he basically stole all of whitebeards territory no one would follow him and in essence he's just holding these territories in name only

Carrot will join.

>>152355432
Cuz he's a dick that steals all the good devil fruit powers

Why is Whitebeard such a cuck?

>roger stole his woman so he started recruiting pirates to make family instead
>gets betrayed by his "son"
>fails at saving his wife's "son"
>gets betrayed by his "son" yet again
>dies miserably
>ultimately losing most of his crew

>>152355432
Because he has an army on par with the Marine, has strength on par with any yonko, is an island destroyer, and defeated Marco and the WB remnants overwhelmingly easily, and because he wants to be.

>>152355648
But he saved his son t b h.

What he did not predict was his son's autistic screeching over a marine talking bad about a pirate.

>>152355432
It's his age.

Will Hackchiro Oda pull the "he ultimately lost half of his remaining years!" card again this arc?

>>152355909
Jinbe lost all of his remaining years though

>Brook vs Big Mom fight will be off-screen.


Is oda running out of creativity?

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Jinbe will not be dying, he will finally join the crew and fulfill Ace's wish of keeping an eye on him and I can finally get that doubt out of my head and focus on the future chapters and plot elements. Someone else may also join if the successive comment Oda made is true.

>>152354568
>plus he'd be redundant with Chopper
Do you even know the differences between a scientist and a doctor? My memory might be off, but isn't the reason Caesar was forced to make a cure for the Mink tribe because Chopper didn't know how to cure their poisoning?
Caesar is the only one with a goal that can be achieved THROUGH becoming a Strawhat. Jinbe is obviously going to join and there is one more spot open after him, but Carrot will not join. I'd rather have her cooked into a rabbit stew

>>152355199

Law will never be Yonko. He's the bitch of Luffy. He's Mihawk like at best.

Luffy/Bege/Kid/Bonney

In reality? None probably.

>>152357226
>Caesar is the only one with a goal that can be achieved THROUGH becoming a Strawhat
I'm pretty sure the Strawhats don't approve of conducting experiments on children

>>152357400
Conducting experiments on children was never his goal, it was just a poor method he used to ACHIEVE his goal. His goal is to be recognized as the best scientist in the world and to surpass Vegapunk. The Strawhats will help him find a more humane way to become the world's greatest scientist.

>>152357465

They will murder Vegapunk?

>>152357497
Most likely. He works for the Marines and developed the Pacifistas.

>Power level memes
>Shipping memes
>Next nakama memes

This is going to be a long week.

>>152357584
So, it's a typical One Piece thread?

>>152357584
>>152357873
yeah i also cant see any difference
business as usual in here

>>152355432
Because he is supposed to be the dark version of Luffy

>>152353859
Swooning!

>doesn't link his early thread
>signifies shame
>still makes it anyways
What is wrong with you

Spoilers

>>152360445
None this week.

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>>152360445
Try next week, anon.

>>152360445
No chapter for 40.000 centuries.

>>152357584
>shipping memes

It's not a meme
Sanji and Nami is canon

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what is his endgame?

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95% of the time the anime looks like total shit.
But there is that rare scene where they make a girl look really cute.

>>152360702
>what is his endgame?
What did he mean by this?

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>>152360702

Strongest lion in the world.

>No chapter
Sigh...

>>152362222
What does the thread do on the weeks there isn't a chapter?

>>152362340
Whine, complain, shitpost

The usual basically

>>152362340
shitpost and meme

>>152353806
>No chapter this week.
Why even make a thread about shounen cancer then?

Comprehensive power level guide.

Kaidou 125
Shanks 123
Blackbeard 120
Whitebeard 116
Big Mom 110
Akainu 106
Aokiji 106
Kizaru 104
Fujitora 103
Rayleigh 102
Jack 95
Doflamingo 94
Luffy 89
Zoro 87
Law 86

>discuss

DUDE SANJI AND NAMI ARE CANON LMAO

>>152362564
>>152362473
That sounds terrible

>>152362594

1. Brook *Admiral Tier3.
One punch man
7. Panda Ma7.n
12. NAMI x SANJI <3
5. Pudding with slime
923. Pudding without slime
Doffy had to fight 2 people and therefore is #1

>>152362594

> Luffy under Jack and Doflamingo
> No Cracker/Marco

Shit/10

>>152362594
>Gear 4 Luffy: 100 (min)

>>152362594
Zoro should be like 9999999

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>>152360484

>>152362683
luffy couldn't beat a very weakened doflamingo who could barely stand during gear 4's time limit

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This nigga comes over and slaps your girl on her asshole, what do you do?

>>152362802
Make fun of his stupid hat

>>152362683
cracker 90
marco 94

>>152362594
>Kizaru has less points than Akainu
Are you mad?

>>152362894
I didn't know whether to put him a little higher or lower, went with lower, though I think maybe he's a bit stronger than akainu

>>152362788

For the last time. There's no "G4 limit". Luffy was as weakened as Doflamingo. And you shouldn't consider stronger a character who as been totally overpowered by the power up of his oppennent. The limit is abitrary set, Oda extended the fight by making Luffy talk to civilians. Luffy is stronger than Doflamingo.

>>152362802
I would thank him for burning my GF's fat ass.

>>152363035
speedreader detected
luffy couldn't beat doflamingo within the time limit he had in gear 4 + haki, and that was vs a doflamingo that could barely stand

a healthy 100% luffy vs 100% doffy would lose to doffy

luffy couldn't beat a fucking weak as shit doffy before gear 4 and his haki ran out, during the downtime doffy can easily just kill luffy and he wouldn't be able to retaliate but nah, plot armor

>>152360702
To peek on naked woman

>>152362802
How do you just walk up to someone and slap their asshole?

>>152362788
>>152363035
>>152363096
Doffy is literally the strongest character in this entire manga

Not even Kaido or Big Mom can break his bird cage

All Doffy has to do is summon a bird cage on the entire world and he can become pirate king

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>>152363096

You are the speedreader.

> luffy couldn't beat doflamingo within the time limit he had in gear 4 + haki

Both weakened, argument invalid. No time limit, just haki/stamina issue.

> luffy couldn't beat a fucking weak as shit doffy before gear 4 and his haki ran out

He actually did beat Doffy before running out of haki. Here's Luffy who's about to finish an already unconscious Doflamingo, he was "one hit from no return". Why din't finish at this very moment? Talked with civilians because he tought he was already done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRJndbrn13A
post comfy

>>152363239
You can't, but akainu can with MAGMA.

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>only person who can read poneglyphs

how did ruffy get so rucky?

>>152357226

caesar will not become a straw hat.

all the straw hats are, despite their flaws, fundamentally good people. ceasar is not, he is more than immoral, he enjoys inflicting pain.

>>152363859
Is there a sort of irony in Crocodile giving up on his dream to become Pirate King when all along he had the one person on Earth in his employ who could have lead him to Raftel with the Road Poneglyphs?

>>152362594
Rayleigh cut Kizaru not the other way around.

>>152364077
kizaru wasn't even exerting effort whereas rayleigh was panting

>>152362594
There is a huge gap between Doffy and Jack

>>152364129
Panting is meaningless. Kizaru was cut in the face easily. Rayleigh did not want to kill him.

Nami vs Whitebeard

who wins?

>>152364219
Whitebeard's cock

>>152364246 vs Whitebeard's cock

Who wins?

>>152364176
It's more accurate to say, despite Rayleighs best effort to kill Kizaru, all he could was scratch his cheek.

>>152364284
BIG

YELLOW

KICKS

>>152364283
The Fujoshi.

I love being annoying. I'm going to put my best effort into annoying those unfortunate enough to like one piece and visit threads. Sorry not sorry.

>>152364331 vs The Fujoshi

who wins?

>>152364372
Attack the luffyfags. They are the most sensitive.

>>152364415

But... Not so long ago, Luffyfag was synonym of normalfag and civilised people. It's almost as one particuliar Doffyfags is trying to push his own agenda.

>>152364372
>>152364539
I got a better one. Call out the hack on his mistakes.

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if i told you back at skypiea or enies lobby that this guy would be 200 million worth, would you believe?

>>152364691
He was cool as soon as he lifted 5 tons in arabasta.

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Thoughts?

>>152364284
He didn't try to kill him, he only protected the strawhats and himself, and casually asked Kizaru to revoke his bounty.

Kizaru couldn't even kill a fodder once Rayleigh arrived, and he failed to capture Rayleigh on top of that.

>>152360484
That reminds me. China and Korea get manga around one week prior to Japan, so if there is a one week hiatus then China and Korea should be getting chapter 853 right around now.

So it is perfectly feasible to get our hands on that chapter... unless of course 852 was gotten ahead of time just like it was for the Chinese?

Some anyone has a link to some Korean or Chinese manga hosting sites where we can check this out?

>>152351201
>In a story with pretty black & white morality, yes, this does make her evil.
So being a normal person that will put their own well being ahead of others make you evil?
But if that is deemed evil then yes. I was however referring to the whole "she is evil and wants to seriously maim people and murder them for the lulz" kind of thing.

>>152364648
You need serious medical help.

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>>152364938
Why isn't Robin thinking about the poneglyph? Otherwise spot on.

>>152365095
And you need to stop lying. A question is not a claim so stop posting shit.

>>152365110
Even fucking Cola would make way more sense than a sword.

>>152365076
>failed
That was never a goal though. Kizaru outclasses Rayleigh by leagues but he can't afford to waste countless of troops for one old man. Also, Kuma saved the Strawhats. Rayleigh barely just managed to buy time.

>>152365137
No, continuing shitposting from a previous thread is unacceptable. Stop. Get off this website.

>>152365110
Because they thinking about their respective bait.
Sanji is trying to bait Nami and Robin. And Robin is trying to bait Zoro.

Since it's doubtful BM will be beaten this arc by the SH, what do you think will happens between her and the crew to make her give up on destroying Fishman Island / send assassins to East Blue out of spite?

Maybe BB will make his move and force her into a war she has to throw every soldier in?
Or Pudding messed her memories so much she's actually a somewhat nice person?
Or she'll forgive the SH after they stop,Pudding and Capone's evil plan?
Or she'll just be too weakened with no sweet commander left?

>>152365412
I think Big Mom is good. Lola did say she would help them.
Pudding most likely changed her memory and made her hate Lola

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>>152364938
I fixed it for you.

>>152365541
It seems easier to change Lola's memories than BM's, considering Lola was leaving and BM is often seen interacting with others, not to mention all the homies around her who would notice if she acted weird.

That, or Pudding's a master ruser since she was like, ten.

>>152365618
>lola gives up her vivre card
>dont worry mama is good
>oh nevermind memories were changed
haaaaccckkk

>>152365688
That's why changing big mom's make more sense

So yeah, seriously. Why didn't Law just use shambles to teleport Doffy into the water. He had many chances to do it. Hell, he could have even put Fujitora in the water as well when he was fighting them both.

>>152365744
>Why didn't someone else other than MC defeat the big bad villain
One piece is not as good as HXh anon.

>>152365412
Did you read last chapter? The Baratie is safe because it's so small time that BM doesn't care about it. It's just an empty threat.

>>152365744
I assume he'd have to catch doffy offguard to do that

>>152365966
He used shambles a couple times on Doffy through out the Dress Rosa arch.

>>152365744
>Autism

>>152365744

Sea water must be an issue.

>>152365886
at least it doesnt have asspulls

>>152366006
I don't think autism has anything to do with why Law didn't teleport Doffy.

>>152366034
We saw him move sea water in Punk Hazard.

>>152365939
Wut? It's not about it being small, BM just wanted the Vinsmokes to come to WCI and told them to threaten Zeff if Sanji rebelled, but I'm assuming they're not just going to let her kill the Vinsmokes and get her hand on a clone army, so I'd understand if she was pissed off at the end of the arc.

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What's his ability again ?

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There will be no shipping under this post.

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Too bad. I would love to read full chapters of Robin explaining to us how to carve poneglyphe, Luffy randomly going full super saiyan and them just finding the One Piece only to have even more arc with little to no connection between them as usual.

>>152366182
>bestiality
You're sick.

>>152366176
All of the Haki.

>>152365264
At all times it is a goal of the Marine to capture or kill Roger pirates.
This utterly refutes your argument. Having a calm face as a trope isn't the same as not trying.
Kizaru's whole thing is it's so hard to hit him. In fact, no one else has. But Rayleigh made him bleed and a continuation of that would be death by a thousand razors.

>>152365264
>Kizaru outclasses Roger's first mate by leagues.
Ok... I didn't realize you thought Kizaru was as strong as the yonko. If you really believe that there's no point continuing.

>>152366276
>At all times it is a goal of the Marine to capture or kill Roger pirates.
Did we ever see Kizaru giving a shit? He seems content just half-trying his job since his OP fruit means he pretty much can't get fired

>>152366323
Meh, depend which Yonkou.

In a 1vs1 I can't imagine Big Mom winning against Rayleigh or even Kizaru because at first glance they both are very fast and can hit hard.

Plus as pointed out before, Yonkous aren't like Shichibukais or Admirals as they also represent their crew's force.

>>152365886
Reminder that Higuma defeated Shanks.
And that Shanks will defeat Weevil.

And that Shambles wouldnt do shit to a string man. Not even Laws most powerful attack was shown to actually weaken him, it was more comparable to Waiper stopping Enel's heart. Meant to show how strong the antagonist is not to show that Law was useful.

>>152366562
Yonkos as individuals are the strongest pirates in the world. They also have the strongest pirate forces.

Kizaru would not even break Cracker's armor.

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>>152353806
Only a few chapters now until Jinbe officially becomes the final crewmember.

The second one joining is probably just Sanji re-joining so it doesn't matter.

>>152366649

> Kizaru would not even break Cracker's armor.

He's shooting laser beam dude.. Be serious. I agree Big Mom would probably wipe the floor with him though.

>>152366717
No one other than Jinbei will join this arc.

>>152366759
That's exactly what I said.

>>152366725
There is a measure of strength of his glitter attacks in the manga, since its stated that a strong enough hit against the Phoenix fruit will not be regenerated.

Garp hit Marco once and it knocked him back and he did not make a second attempt. But vs Kizaru not only did he easily regenerate through all of Kizaru's glitter spam, he also was not pushed back.

Cracker is one of the strongest commanders in the world (undefeated till a few chapters ago, armor never even broken, and breaking it doesn't even bring you close to winning). Marco is too, it's reasonable to say they must be on the same level.

>>152366725
Hard to say, we haven't seen BM fight. We know she's physically strong but her main fighting style seems to be using Zeus and Prometheus (or something), anw we haven't seen what they're capable of.

Here's a theory I've been working on.

The stronger a character[enemy], the more reality warping capabilties they have. Now this seems obvious but whether or not it is intentional, Oda seems to be setting a theme here. I'll start with weaker characters and work my way from there.

Buggy
>At this time he was laying low scrounging east blue for treasure
>Buggy Ball destroys a few city blocks

Arlong
>Ambition to rule the world but still used other people
>Owned a small island and maybe a few other territories
>Could change reef, change sailing patterns small time

Croc
>Shichi, will was destroyed by New World though
>tried to take over a country via subversion\
>Drought for an entire country, but was dance powder NOT his df or will

Enel
>Considers himself as god
>Destroyed Birka
>Created a flying ship using his df
>Ark Maxim able to spam Deathpeia and create very dangerous thunderstorms wherever he goes. He needs the ship though.

CP0 has an interesting theme here. They were a secret group and have little influence on the environment. However W7/EL did have interesting phenomena
>Aqua Lagoona
>Enies Lobby "Sun Never Sets"
>Giant Hole
>Buster Call is WG, Island/City destroyer

Moriah
>Shichi, will was destroyed in the New World though
>Moved to Florian Triangle, environment already suitable for his df, doesnt have to do much work, states he wants other to make him pk
>very powerful but is island/ship is bound by florian triangle

Caesar
>Hid behind Doffy's shadow
>Lives on island previously altered by Admirals
>decently powerful, created Smiley and Koro to alter environment, couldnt do it on his own though

Doflamingo
>Shichi, King of a country, powerful crew, "reins of the yonko", runs underworld, still used other people though
>Birdcage
>Awakening
>Toy house, Sugar
>Picas power
>powerful enough to alter and control an island by using mix of deceit, others and his will/df

(1/2)

>>152366759
>No one other than Jinbei will die this arc.
ftfy

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>>152366872
>buggy as a weaker character
Why do you assume any weak character could dodge Akainu's attacks when Whitebeard couldn't?

You think Akainu wasn't trying?

>>152366872
(2/2)

Big Mom, things really get crazy here
>Yonko, mafia elite, political power
>35 islands, own candy ecosystem, other territories outside of that as well
>Wonderland of sorts, souls in inanimate objects
>Controls weather
>Children with book powers that bend time, memory powers, cloning powers
>still uses other people to amass her power though

I'm not sure what we'll see from here but I'm positive that we'll see more reality altering techniques from the other stronger guys to come.
Jack is considered able to raize countries and he's just a calamity. Kaido must be another layer of destructive force he's going to kill Zuni. Shanks, Blackbeard and the Gorosei are going to have their spheres of reality warping as well. It's possible Raftel was created in the past by some powerhouse. Maybe Joyboy or something

>>152366977
So, Buggy is Luffy endgame?

>>152367027
He's very blatantly set up for the end game yea.

>>152367014
I think each yonko has a theme, and Big Mom's is illusion.

>>152364931
he was the real captain, r-right?

Reading through Dressrosa now. Why Oda tried to hype Elizabello's Punch so much? It almost became edgy.

>>152355020
This please Oda.

Let's be honest, Oda can't make any pairings (except Usopp and Kaya) canon at the end without it feeling awkward and asspulled.

>>152367503
Because Luffy will actually use it to defeat a yonko.

>>152367567
>SaNami bait
I like it.

>>152367083
>Buggy defeat all Admirals, in 10 seconds meme actually is not meme
ODAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>152367567

Hancock could've the child of Luffy. She did a lot for him and will probably do even more in the future, it's only natural for him to do that for her.

>>152367567
Shanks and Makino

>>152360702
Freelance journalism, peep on naked women.
Wait for Moria to be confirmed dead

>>152363321
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hFKl8gZNjM

>>152367614
What bait? There's nothing but the truth in my post

>>152367567
Usonami!!!!

>>152367593
lol wut

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>>152367567
?????

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>>152367677
What do you think Luffy's first orgasm will be like?
Considering he's probably never jerked off in his whole life.

>2 page theory gets little traffic
>Shipping spurs the discussion

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>>152367567
>implying

>>152368448
I mean, let's be real. Why would anyone want to "discuss" some asspull theory.

>>152368430
Which Straw Hats have ever had sex? Which ones have ever kissed?

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How does this make you feel?

>>152368448
It's much easier to shitpost about shipping
Talking about theories actually requires thinking and no one wants to do that

>>152368576
Nami probably isn't virgin, Robin probably was raped by someone, Franky probably fucked that twins and probably like brothels, and I doubt Brook have never had sex, besides he can't even jerk off anymore. Usopp probably kissed Kaya already, and Sanji had his first kiss with Viola.

>>152368576
>sex
Robin probably.
Franky.
Brook.
>kiss
I can see Hancock stealing a kiss from Luffy.

>>152368448
>>152368655
What theory?

Of course villains become stronger and more interesting.
The story would be boring otherwise.

>>152368521
Right right go cry about Sana some more

>>152368751
Right, right, go an cry baseless assumptions some more.

>>152368729
>Of course villains become stronger and more interesting.
I said their ability to warp reality grows with their strength. There's plenty to discuss with this. You just have to use your brain a bit. Consider things pertaining to the theory and say what you want.

End game characters potential for warping reality, how raftel plays into all of this, Enel's EoS tease with his automata army, How Shanks went from ~Wano to Marineford in a matter of hours [time dilation, reality warping]. Goroseis sphere's of warping, how bonney's fruit plays into this. Did a former magu magu user create the red line? Did a former user of Kid's fruit alter their worlds magnetic fields?

>>152368897
>baseless assumptions
>9 cited, chronological progressions of strength correlating to a characters ability to warp reality

>baseless assumptions
>discussing shipping at all
you are fucking retarded

>>152368576
had sex
>robin
>franky
>brook
>zoro

Sanji has gotten close several times but he kept getting cucked by zeff.

>>152368978
Wow, you're retarded. Your baseless assumption is what someone ships. As you based it on literally nothing.

>>152369041
>zoro
Nah, he spends too much time training. Plus he's keeping himself pure for Tashigi.

>>152369071
He based it on sana being the only ship who gets posted 10 times per thread.
Or at all even.

>>152369071
Read the chain. My first comment calls out that anons are more interested in shipping than theories.

>>152369214
SaNa is /our OTP/
Please don't fight

>>152368598
Makes me remember that doffy did literally nothing wrong, he just wanted to bring down mariejois, nothing wrong with that.

he'll support luffy when luffy brings mariejois down

>>152369214
It's still a baseless claim.

>>152369216
The "chain" starts here >>152368448 and there is no previous post linked.
You are baselessly equating anyone who doesn't want to talk about your shit theory to a "shipper" and a "sana" shipper at that.

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>>152353806
I somehow feel like Jinbe doesn't fit that much with the straw hats, I'd prefer for him to be a close ally or something desu

Will Sanji have to fake being lovely dovey with Pudding?

>>152369432
Pretty much everyone feels that way.

I want more non-humans to join the crew though.

>>152369382
then why did reply at all

>>152369495
Why?
The wedding is cancelled.
Unless Luffy somehow gets BTFO'd and thrown back in jail or something.

>>152369495
He already did.
Do you mean again?
Maybe, if he comes up with a plan.
If that ceremony happens that is.
It's already the night before the wedding and Luffy is already out of the cell looking for Sanji so who knows

>>152369552
Um, how was it not clear? Is it not possible someone doesn't want to discuss crack pot theories and shipping?

>>152369589
>>152369555
Like, say he bumps into Pudding before Luffy finds him and she's all "Kyaaa there's a breakout, please protect me Sanji-kun!"

How would he react?

>>152369602
sure but my comment was talking about both. its reasonable that someone replying would be as well.

>>152369694
One Piece fans can barely grasp human interaction. Its not their fault.

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>>152355405
>legal loli
oda knows what i like

>>152369684
With a kick I hope.

Did doffy actually want to become pirate king

>>152369684
>Sanji-kun
Pudding calls him Sanji-san.
Maybe just "Sanji" now since she isn't acting anymore

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Fucking Indonesians man.
Disgusting.

Someone get this asap though.

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>>152369854
Quite.

>>152369854
Fubuki best girl though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNayFokOh9M

>>152370026
>interracial
that's interspecies, nigga.

>>152370127
It's both really.
He ate the Hito Hito no Mi after all.

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Gear fourth looks much better in Film Gold than the shitty anime

>>152370377
Wow really?
Who would have thought.
Almost like they had a bigger budget or something.

>>152369908
no, he just wanted to throw the world into chaos and bring down mariejois/basically ruin life for the tenryubito

>>152370377
If he was a bit thinner around the waste he would look a lot like Garp.

Luffy is admiral level in gear fourth

>>152370634
I like to believe he is too.

Too bad admirals can fight for like 2 weeks straight.

>>152355432
Because he have an overpowered crew and two overpowered devil fruits.

>>152370783
Then again this fucking happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMxLFLAk5BA

Kuzan could have killed Dofagmingo right there and then.

He probably knew that would fuck with the powers in the New World though.

>>152357497
I have a feeling that the World Government is forcing Vegapunk to work for them.

>>152370634
He's stronger than an admiral in Gear fourth, but probably not so much so that he could defeat one before it wore off,

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>>152370566
He also looks like Dragon with those dark shadows around his eyes.

>>152370901
Nah, he's a double agent.

>>152369098
Sex was part of stamina training

>>152371049
It'd be cool to see Luffy go to his dad or grandpa for training after he gets pretty much wrecked by Big Mom's underlings and realizes he's still pretty low tier.

>>152371342
We went over this with Doffy, anon.

>>152371525
Went over what?

>>152371342
Rayleigh wouldn't let luffy go to the new world if he knew he couldn't handle the yonkou in a 1v1

>>152371702
But, exactly that happened.

>>152371342
>two year training timeskip with Roger's first mate.
>all other SH get training too.
>less than three months till reverie
>kaido starting war imminent
>half SHs in Wano

>hurrr it's time for another training arc

>>152371750
So far the character that came closest to killing Luffy post skip was not Cracker or Doflamingo or Fujitora, it was Caesar.

Fuck off cancer.

seeing kidd all beat up and in a cell on wano with kaidou is pretty sad to see, I kinda like him

>>152371770
You realize Luffy did not solo any of those people, right?

>>152371751
>if i add hurrr to my post it makes me look smart
And training is needed so he can keep up.

>>152371342
Luffy will finally get a proper sparing partner once Jimbei joins.
.

>>152371824
He did not solo Caesar either he was knocked helplessly unconscious in their first encounter.

Cracker was a yonko commander who never ever lost and tanked 11 hours of Gear 4s. This means any other character he fought he defeated without them even getting past his disguise. He either never ever fought anyone a yonko commander should have to fight or he's one of the strongest commanders in the story.

Yonkos are not invincible, Whitebeard proved that.

>>152371856
Actually in the canon he graduated Rayleigh's schooling a half a year early (stated), implying he didn't need extra. He'll learn as he goes now, of course, but he won't go into a dedicated training arc and there won't be another timeskip to make him stronger because there's not enough in world time left.

>>152371856
He did train, for 2 years, with none other than Rayleigh. There's not going to be another timeskip if that's what you're suggesting. He'll gradually get stronger on panel with each arc just like he did pre-TS.

>>152371935
I fail to see what point you are trying to make with this. That Cracker is Yonko tier thus Luffy is equal to yonko?

>>152371980
Garp is stronger than Rayleigh. Presumably so is Dragon. So training from either one of them would help.

>>152372025
You do realize that there does not need to be a time skip in order to train, right?
And Rayleigh is equal to or less than the current admirals. Garp is/was equal to Roger himself.

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why do the straw hat pirates even need log poses anymore if the cat says they are beyond the last island....which according to Crocus is Raftel...

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>>152372051
That Cracker is a gatekeeper character and that if you can defeat him (ONLY Luffy has) then you enter the realm where defeating a yonko becomes possible. Like it was possible for Luffy to defeat Crocodile. Luffy is closer now to a yonko than he was to a shichibukai then.

>>152372122
Okay, so you were trying to imply Cracker is yonko tier. That's dumb because you're implying the story's set up hierarchy system is just lying to us. The yonko are without doubt stronger than Cracker, and again, Luffy soloed none of these people.

>>152372089
There is literally no time for Luffy to train right now when half of his crew is already stirring shit in Wano

Luffy doesn't need to train, he needs to actually listen to what Zoro said and Punk Hazard, utilize one or two brain cells and remember what they've all trained for.

He's bleeding heavily, hungry and tired and yet he just abandoned Jinbe and Nami to blindly run around a Yonko's castle with no idea where to go and the potential to run into a number of characters who would beat the shit out of him right now with ease.

>>152372417
>I want the autistic kid to stop being autistic
Anon...

>>152372417
But that's how he is. He always was like this and this trait of him will never really change.

Most people don't want to see Luffy being rational. They want to see Luffy being Luffy diving headfirst into the chaos no matter how dire the situation is.

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Wasn't this string suppose to be so close together you couldn't just walk through it?

>still no coby x dellinger doujin where dellinger forces himself on coby, riding him despite his protests
>no dellinger doujins period
Explain.

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>>152372890
I can't.

>>152372890
Did he even get a flash back?
At least Baby5 got get 5 minutes about how her mom abandoned her.

>>152372122
That's like saying (not really) defeating Crocodile makes it possible for that Luffy to be able to defeat Mihawk. What the fuck makes you think Cracker can hold a candle against Big Mom? You seriously don't think she's going all out against fucking Brook, do you?

>>152372890
>>152372983
Fuck off jinbei faggot.

>>152372251
>powerlevelfags

>>152373216
Having common sense and the ability to think is something this person tries to mock.

Why does anon give old farts so much credit? There would be no point to this story of Garp could fight evenly with any admirals right now, let alone kill them. The geezers are riding on reputation alone. The sooner you realize that, the easier it will be accept how this story progresses. Akainu will probably slaughter Garp and make a kabob about of him.

>>152373245
Having common sense and the ability to think is the exact opposite of sweeping quantifiable categorization of characters strength.

>>152373298
This is a person who lacks common sense.

Anon, old people being strong is nothing new to the fictional or real world.
The current generation will pass Garp, Sengoku and Rayleigh at some point, but not yet.

>>152373374
>sweeping quantifiable categorization
This makes no sense at all, do you want to try again with words that actually mean something.

The story itself tells you how strong certain characters are. That's all there is to it.
Garp was stated to be equal to Roger. Roger was stronger than White Beard. White Beard was stronger than Akainu.

This really isn't that hard to figure out.

>>152372999
Luffy and Zoro and Nami almost died vs Mr. 3 and Mrs. Goldenweek and Robin seemed like she could solo the whole crew, but none of them held a candle to Crocodile.

>>152372689
anime

>>152373438
And Cracker has been stated to be one of the strongest characters with an unbeaten defense until Luffy showed up.

>>152373503
It said he never lost fights. He just never fought other Yonko or anyone of real importance.

>>152373438
>sweeping
The act of generalizing in broad terms
>quantifiable
Create a measurable system of numbers
>categories
Simple methods to draw distinction

Or, powerlevelfags.

>>152373524
Not him but it also said his basic defense was unbeaten to the point his bounty was a biscuit clone.

>he just never fought anyone strong
Why did he respond to the other commander being defeated then?

>>152373588
I like how you ignore everything about that post and try to argue semantics. Then you refer to a singular person in the plural tense.

>>152373524
>He just never fought other Yonko or anyone of real importance.
Ignorance at its finest.

>>152373608
>Not him
Sure.

And other strong people are referring to Yonko, equal or higher to.

>>152373438
>Roger was stronger than Whitebeard
Where was that stated again?

Who's worse, powerlevelfags or shipperfags?

>>152373692
>ignorance because I say so, etc etc

>>152373674
>There is only one powerlevelfags
Anon what are you even trying to argue anymore

>>152373457
They almost died because of a complete lack of knowledge of their opponents powers. Not becuse they were that weak. Not to mention Mr. 3 had a lot of help. Robin can't do much to Luffy either. And Zoro can overpower her, and he can defet people even without swords.

We're obviously not going to change each other's opinion so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

>>152373770
>>152373736
I like how you refuse to address a post in full because you know you are actually wrong.

>>152373746
I don't say so. The manga says Cracker is pretty serious threat. You are trying to say he isn't. Because youre stubborn and stupid.

>>152373736
30 fucking weeks of constant shitposting, consisting of about 70 or so posts a thread and new threads vs some discussion about strength.

GEE, I FUCKING WONDER.

>>152373794
>y-You're wrong because I say so, etc etc etc

>>152373848
No, you're wrong not because I say so, but because of the previously explained reasons you refused to address.

>>152373841
I think it was March of '15. Nami had the worried cliffhanger on zou...it was all over from there. It's been nearly 100 weeks of non stop shipping shitposting.

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>>152373396
>The current generation will pass Garp, Sengoku and Rayleigh at some point, but not yet.
>implying
Roger's generation are in their 70s. They're out of the game, old and grey. Roger is dead. WB is dead. Garp, Sengoku, and Rayleigh are retired. They're strong, but no stronger now than the "current" generation, which are the ones in power like Shanks, Kaido (strongest being alive), Akainu and the like.
Luffy's generation - being the up comers - are set to replace them, not Roger's generation, just fyi.

>>152373919
>i-I'm right because I say so etc etc etc
Haha you are a joke

>>152373963
No way, Zou started in 2015? No fucking way.

Fuck, it started around chapter 800. It really has been about a year. What the fuck.

>>152374073
Why are you just repeating yourself?Are you really that defective?

>>152373963
>March of '15
No we were still in Dressrosa hell back then, it was more like late '15

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>>152374012
It took a stroke, all three admirals, a sneak attack, all of black beard's crew and organs full of lava to take down White Beard. And the only reason he got all of those wounds is because of the first thing that happened, the stroke. Which let Akainu badly wound White Beard at the start of the fight.

Now, imagine Garp, who is not sick in the slightest, or wounded AND he was stronger than White Beard to begin with.

>>152374276
>Why are you just repeating yourself?
You don't seem to get the hint. I'm patient enough to work you through this. Cracker is strong and you are wrong. It even rhymes, look at that. Cracker is strong and you are wrong.

>>152374375
I'm imagining an old man give it his best shot but fail in the end. I just don't see how he has more strength, endurance, more vitality than anyone in Shanks/Admirals generation.

>>152374388
Oh, now I get it. You are actually underage. There seems to be a good number of people like that in One Piece threads.
And you even forget who you are replying to. Because this is the chain of posts were you started arguing about "powerlevelfags" not about Cracker. Which is funny, because now you've outed yourself as a false flagged because you are assuming the role of a "powerlevelfag".

Enjoy your last reply.

>>152371662
That Luffy isn't going to lose to the arc villain anymore. You know, when you and the other buttmad Doffyfags got BTFO by king kong gun

>>152374375
>imagine Garp, who is not sick in the slightest, or wounded AND he was stronger than White Beard to begin with.
You keep repeating this, but that's not supported by anything. Whitebeard was known as the strongest man alive, not Garp. We know that Garp and Roger fought, but we don't know the circumstances or the outcomes of said fights. Whitebeard was like wise said to have went toe-to-toe with Roger for that matter.

>>152374471
>I'm imagining an old man give it his best shot but fail in the end
Well, I guess we're all wrong sometimes. Just try better next time, anon.

The point here was that even very badly hurt (weaker) white beard still took almost a whole army to beat him. Garp who is un-wounded and not sick would be at full strength, unlike White Beard.

How is something so simple so hard for you to understand?

>>152374545
>you and the other buttmad Doffyfag
What's with all the brain damaged retards in these threads who make assumptions based on nothing. Don't you realize how stupid this makes you look?

>>152374473
You are the anon who said hierarchy means everything, yes?

>>152374547
>that's not supported by anything
It's supported by the multiple cases in the manga that said Garp was equal to Roger. And we also know that Garp under plays everything he does. Like being a vice admiral. So he wouldn't try to fight white beard for the title of the strongest.

>>152374555
Garp is just as old as whitebeard only without the power to destroy the world. Akainu walked away from the strongest man alive with a few cuts. Akainu would literally melt Garp alive while laughing at his empty threats.

>>152374694
>equal to Roger 22 years ago
>everyone else has just been chilling and encouraging the old men to be the strongest
Please.

>>152374727
>walked away from the strongest man alive with a few cuts
Crushed organs.

>Garp is just as old as whitebeard
Why are you so autistically focused on age? Why do you ignore all the other factors in this such as white beard's illness and wounds. You understand these things make him weaker, right?

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>>152374694
>It's supported by the multiple cases in the manga that said Garp was equal to Roger.
Where was it stated that they were "equals". Please refresh my memory.

>>152374815
>22 years ago
Again, why are you so focused on age. God damn, you are annoying.

>>152374850
So if he were stronger he may have landed more than one or two hits on Akainu. He would still lose.

>>152373963
I hope it dies out once Wano starts. At least powerlevel discussions have people that actually care about what they're talking about.

>>152374885
>being stabbed through you spine, having your heart only half functioning, and your organs being filled with Lava only makes you slightly weaker
Oh, I get it now. I'm talking to an actual retard.

>>152374880
Because health tends to deteriorate as you grow older? What is the purpose of this story if all of the real challenging fighters are just watching Luffy do his thing? It makes zero sense for the oldest generation to actually retain all of the strength. Luffy becoming pirate king wouldn't be worthwhile if he beats all admirals and Yonko but garp just let's him do it. That's stupid.

>>152374942
>what we saw from Akainu was the absolute extent of his strength
I'm saying, Akainu was barely trying while Whitebeard was thrashing like a rabid dog.

>>152375024
And now you're 100% talking out of your ass.
Okay, this is over.

>>152375055
>Enel has super Logia form
>Caesar has super Logia form
>many fruit users have a super form
>Akainu scoffs at Marco and vistas haki
>Aokiji simply dodges Whitebeards haki

Admirals have methods to counteract haki. Akainu probably has some ridiculous magu magu form. It would be a tough fight against healthy Whitebeard but honestly Akainu takes it 6/10 with main factor being endurance.

>>152374875
Why doesn't Buggy call Roger "Gol D."? Is it just because it's been so long since his death?

>>152375215
not even the guy you're arguing with but a healthy whitebeard (that didn't have a stroke or get stabbed by squardo) would fucking assblast akainu

>>152368598
horny

Who were admirals when Roger sailed and did he have to battle Yonko? Besides Shiki

All I want is for SaNa to happen..

>>152375391
Sengoku, Zephyr (noncanon)
Garp was offered, but declined.
Kong was fleet admiral at the time.

>>152375380
Was he at full health when he tried to stab Aokiji?

>>152375495
Luffy ranked Sengokus Buddha punch pretty well and that was before time skip. Maybe Roger had a pretty easy time "conquering" the grand line.

So, where DOES the rest of the arc go with all this? Can Reiju tell Germa it's a trap? What happens to Caesar? Are we just going to leave Pekoms unaddressed? Can Sanji bail now without getting the whole fleet on his ass? How the hell does Brook get out of the Big Mom confrontation?

Too much of this arc feels like it's just going to get wrapped up by Jinbei wrecking up the joint, and that seems REALLY boring.

>>152375639
Jinbe and Sanji vs Wadatsumi was fun. I'd be down for them to team up.

>>152375639
I want the wedding to happen but it's looking less and less likely

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>>152375611
Don't forget he got to do a practice run as well. Roger wasn't actually as impressive as Luffy has been.

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Does it say somewhere that Gear 4 is incomplete? I thought I remember hearing that.

If true. I get that gear 5 or maybe gear 4.5 is Luffy pulling a DBZ style SSJ2 thing. As in, he compresses all his muscles so that he's lean again and has a full range of motion with all the power he had before.