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Should the Thousand-Year Blood War arc be animated?
If so, what scene would you look forward to being animated?
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>After all this time we've always been Bleach

Fucking dropped.
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http://tenshiscave.tumblr.com/post/155890615052/we-do-knot-always-love-you-snippet-translation

cute and comfy stuff

also a bit of info about chad and the whole boxing & uryu and his relationship with his dad
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>>152299196
nope. Kubo had his chance. he fucked us all.

>>152299567
troll harder
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No. It was boring and bad and only a few scenes were worth seeing animated.
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>>152299733
what was the site with the completed chapters?
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>>152299196
>Should the Thousand-Year Blood War arc be animated?
No. The anime wasn't very good. Great OPs and EDs though.
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>>152299853
http://missstormcaller.tumblr.com/tagged/bleach

The translates of tenshiscave a lot better though, but they only translated three snippets of this novel. They seem to be busy translating the "Spirits are forever you with" novel.
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>>152299804
>troll harder
lmao
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>>152299196
>should the arc where everyone fights meaningless battles and the main character does nothing but get his ass kicked and train so he won't get his ass kicked be animated
Fuck no.
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>>152300051
Thanks, anon.
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>>152300495
No problem.
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>>152299196
>If so, what scene would you look forward to being animated?

-The first invasion
-Rukias bankai
-Shunsuis bankai
-Unohana vs Zaraki just because we get more Unohana
-The final two chapters especially animated Kazui and Ichika
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>>152299196
Read Air Gear instead.
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>>152299196
Yes it should. Everybody has been asking for it and only a vocal minority has said no.
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Why can't we just forget about Bleach?
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>>152299196
The Sternritter fights, especially Lille, Pernida, Gerrard and Askin. Also Gremmy.
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>>152300968
>>152300968
Because there are 4 good arcs and 2 bad arcs? That's why?
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>>152299196
I would prefer an entire remake since the animation in the first two arcs are really bad, but that would never happen.

If it does come back then I their bias towards IR isn't so blatant this time around. Also change Rangiku's hair to her canon color along with giving Orihime brown eyes instead of grey.
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>>152301194
I hope*
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>>152299733
The novel has feel good moments, but also some stupid things. Among the stupid things is having characters act in a manner more suitable for a 3 month timeskip.

For example, it's been 3 years and Renji still needs someone to explain to him what the hell happened to Kira. Aren't they friends as well as fellow vice captains? It's one thing for Kira not to see Hanatarou for 3 years, but Renji and Kira presumably often wait around in the same room as their captains assemble, that conversation should've happened way before.

Similar thing happens here with Ichigo and Uryuu. It's been 3 fucking YEARS and they're not even busy shinigami officers but human college students. Why is he still wondering how Uryuu could afford med school? Not to mention the unnatural dialogue with Tatsuki that's meant to tell readers that she's teaching karate. Should've done that in narrative.
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On one hand, I didn't even follow the anime post Bount arc (just watched select scenes) so I doubt I'd stay to watch the messy quincy arc, on the other hand I want Bleach Brave Souls to continue post Fullbring arc and having an anime would help expedite that.
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>>152301062
>Gremmy
>Wanting anything from the worst character ever made in Bleach

Kenpachi couldn't even make the fight fun
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>>152300879
That reminds me, I'd much rather watch an anime adaptation of the later parts of Air Gear than Bleach.
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>>152299196
No

Ywach v Painter Monk
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congrats
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How many ep? 50 canon and 50 filler?
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Only if the anime also spontaneously ends out of nowhere in a random 6 minute episode halfway through the arc.
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>>152299196
The only worth thing is mayuri vs pernidas
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>>152299196
There are only 3 things in the Blood War Arc worth animating.

1) Rukia's Bankai
2) Yoruichi's Raiju Form
3) Aizen Winning

Oh and pic related.
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>>152303534
>Aizen Winning
He literally ended up back in the chair.
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>>152303762
Maybe so, but he still beat the villain and was the ultimate hero of the manga.
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>>152303785
>he still beat the villain
That was Kazui.
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>>152303830
No, it was Ichigo, through means that were inadequately explained.
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>>152303871
Kazui literally stopped Yhwach from destroying their peaceful era.
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What beat Yhwach:
1) Ryuuken's asspull arrow
2) Ichigo finishing

Everyone else are just stalling.
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>>152301149
Can I ask about the count? Are you treating TBTP as it's own arc?
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>>152303978
Do you think it'll be a plot point in the last novel?
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>>152303830
>>152303871
Consider the following.

>Kazui never would have been in a position to erase Yhwach had Ichigo not struck him down first
>Ichigo never would have been in a position to strike him down had Aizen not weakened and distracted him
>Furthermore, Kazui had to have been born from Ichigo, whose birth was the result of one of Aizen's experiments going awry

No matter what way you slice it, it all comes back to Aizen. Aizen is the true hero.
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>>152304044
Heros of the Great War:
Aizen - responsible for Isshin-Masaki-White who beget Ichigo who begets Kazui
Urahara - responsible for Ichigo & Mayuri who remakes Kira who inspires Central 46 reforms
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>>152300968
Because it hurt us. We stayed with it, shuffling our children into their bedrooms when it came in from a night of drinking, and we let it beat us. That's why.

Things like Yammy being #0 and Ywach being Zangetsu were truly weird to see responses to when the chapters came out. I'm still not sure what the fuck is going on with Kazui.
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>>152304017
Neither Kazui or Ichigo were mentioned to be in the second novel.
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>>152304220
I'm a nostalgiafag for everything I cared enough to follow for at least three years, whether I'm happy with the way it ends or not. I check out the RK live action movies and the sequel Ashitaro as soon as it came out. I'm all over the Saint Seiya CG movie. I checked to see every time there's a new Gundam though not necessary finishing all. I'm in the new Geass threads. If X and Nana ever restarts I'll be there too despite all my past complaints. And I will always wait for Glass Mask to conclude.
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>>152304367
>And I will always wait for Glass Mask to conclude.

The last volume came out in 06 and the series is from the late 70s. I doubt it'll get a proper ending.
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>>152299196
It was pretty shit, but I admit, I'd watch it for these cuties.
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>>152304478
>that art
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>>152304478
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>>152304478
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>>152304478
>Most forgettable female characters in Bleach
Trapshit was fun, the rest were dull
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>>152305019
No, the most forgettable named female characters are Nimaiya's assistants.
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>>152305345
Most forgettable was the assistant of the pretty boy quincy. She showed up in one chapter.
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What I would love is the whole arc but my personal favorites in order.
Shunsui's Bankai and fight
Old Man's Bankai and fight
Urahara's Bankai and fight
Aizen's freedom
Jushiro's death
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>>152305482
Yes but only if we get an anime original TYBW arc story and ending (Shipping not included, but can be changed)
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>>152305575
>(Shipping not included, but can be changed)

Give it up already.
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>>152305477
Maybe Narita will feature her the way he featured the arrancar nurse.
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>>152305575
Yes. Change it so that Renji and Rukia have a heartfelt moment that makes their transition from friend to getting engaged less abrupt.
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>>152305617
The Quincy weren't mentioned to be in the novel. Main focuses will be Hisagi, something about Tousen, the Soul King, Noble Houses, Arrancars, and Fullbringers.
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I'm honestly just wishing for another databook and/or artbook in a few years.
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I am now going to reread Bleach for the primary purpose of counting how many times people's arm/hand got cut.
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>>152305820
That was not one, though. False flag.
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>>152299804
Kubo tame~
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>>152305700
Are the quincies the most fucked faction? As of the ending, not only are they exterminated, they're also in the wrong, mostly morally reprehensible, and their last remaining practitioner is de facto subservient to Gotei 13.
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>>152299196
Gigi and animated Bambietta please
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>>152302924
I want to know how them fuck Yawach found a brain in a jar and thought "this guy could be a great quincy, I'll give him the power to make his imagination into reality!"
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>>152299196
Guys.
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>>152309068
One of his elites is a hand and the other may be a heart. For all we know Gremmy might be the Soul King's brain. He also can't decide what power they get with the Schrift. Gremmy got imagination power because he is a brain. That is assuming that he didn't always had his power.
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Is Aizen the most handsome soul in all realms?
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>>152307899
The Quincy are not extinct. The majority of the Soldat survived the war. It's only the Sternritter that might all be dead. But even with them, a few might be alive. They are also not in the wrong, especially with all the things that concerns the Soul King and the truth that Hisagi will discover. It was a point that both sides of the war are equally right/wrong. And only a few of them are morally reprehensible.
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>>152309473
That's not Haschwalth.
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>>152309202
If there's ever an anime, how will that dress be censored?
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>>152304313
So far only Hisagi and the secret enemy are set to appear. And given that this is the author of Durarara, there will probably be a lot of characters in the novel.
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>>152309515
It won't. Cleavage is fine. Underboobs are the problem. See Harribel.
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-Yamamoto's bankai
-Shunsui's fight
-Koma vs Basterbine
-Kenpachi's bankai
-Mayuri vs Gigi
-Mayuri vs Master Hand/Nemu's sacrifice
-Bazz B btfoing Hitsugaya
-Renji vs Luchador
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>>152309534
>Shūhei must throw himself into a new fight as the mystery that Kaname Tōsen left behind resurfaces. The story will reveal more details about the four noble families, the Soul King, Arrancar, and Fullbringers.
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>>152309559
Extreme cleavage from a teenage "good girl" though.
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>>152309649
Actually it was it will reveal the mystery of the world, the Fullbringers and Arrancar, the Soul King, and the great aristocrat houses.

It's not about the individual characters, but them as a collective. Some of them will probably appear, but for all we know it might be just some dude giving exposition about them.
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>>152309676
That's the least problem with stuff like people being reduced to skeletons, Byakuya losing his stomach, arms being lost every battle or GigixBambi. Just censoring wise it would be better to release it as OVAs or in a different time slot.
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>>152299196
>anything Mayuri
>Orihime sexy outfit
>anything Askin
>Yoruichi lightning form + otouto
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A 15 year old male not becoming interested in the opposite sex (that is considered beautiful in-universe and has no trouble giving birth) that sleeps extremely close to him makes no bloody fucking sense in any world except Ah! My goddess!

Even if the opposite sex would shut him down and love another man, making the interest short. If anything, it would've made their relationship as bros more interesting. And we could've seen Renji teasing Ichigo about it later, and Rukia consoling Orihime about her needless fears. Or something like that.

Ironically, as much as I hate Renji, he's perhaps the most human of them all, considering that he turned his Zan into a busty she-monkey, violently lashed out at his love out of jealousy, and many other humane traits.
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>>152299196
>NOW YOU FEEL LIKE NUMBER 1
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>>152299733
KARIN X ISHIDA CONFIRMED. THE QUINCY BLOODLINE WILL NOT BE LOST
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>>152311498
>that awful overlayed translated onomatopeia

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>152299733
>chad is a big guy
kek'd
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>>152301062
only pernida managed to entertain, all else was shitsorm
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>>152303762
it was all a part of his..
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>>152305700
>the Soul King
is a quincy.
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>>152309473
More Aizen taicho pls.
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Not after that ending, no
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>>152312484
If they include the novels, why not?
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>>152299196
>Implying SP will EVER animate bleach unless they are allowed to change the ending
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>>152299196
Honestly, if it is animated, I hope the anime gives it the ending the manga really, really deserved. Fuck that rushed shit.
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Yeah but maybe getting the last arc animated might mean they can fix some things and add more to scenes that got cucked. (off paneled)
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>>152299196
No every single one of Ichigo's "fights" were garbage so there is no reason to animate it.
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>>152309487
>[citation needed]
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>>152311812
This would be acceptable desu.
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>>152312837
>reading Bleach for Ichigo

Tasteless faggot detected
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>>152303078
Air Gear was awesome post anime, they stopped when shit was about to get real
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>>152299196
I want to know what was Kubo's original script for the Hell Verse movie.
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I dont know about anyone else, but the last arc felt very rushed.

The start of it was okay, but towards the end it was quite obvious that Kubo was trying to tidy up as many loose ends as possible.

The goggles sternritter was being setup to fight Renji, but instead he got backstabbed by another sternritter and basically did jack shit.

Colonel sanders was also given a meaningless death, and the surviving stern ritters jobbed to yahweh. Burna finger guy turned out to be quincy-reiji : looks like a "bad guy" at first glance but was really a good guy all along. Both him and Jurgen were given rushed backstories in a flashback and killed off quickly.

Royal guards were a joke. We didnt evne get to see their shikais, let alone bankais because Kubo ran out of time.

Most of the captains did nothing useful or were quickly sidelined. Captain AIDs had a largely pointless scene before dying, Captain mom died in a really stupid "hurr lets fight kenpachi to the death" scene. Komamura chose pretty much the most stupid way to power up imaginable. Vaizards jobbed, again.

Ichigo's dad basically did nothing, and despite the huge amount of potential for Uryuu's dad showing up to confront Yahweh (hes literally the only other quincy left who hasnt joined Yahweh), he basically did jack shit except deliver a plot device arrow to his son.

Grimmjow's return was literally pointless. He tries to fight a sternritter then gets put to sleep almost instantly.

And the last couple of sternritter fights were simply wrapped up by having Yahweh kill everyone before being stopped by some lame plot device.
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>>152314196
>Kubo

It was probably garbage anyway.
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>>152314668
Can't be worse than Pierrot's writing.
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>>152314647
>I dont know about anyone else, but the last arc felt very rushed.

Kubo was on death's door for almost the entire arc, so yeah, it was probably a little rushed.
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>>152314729
Was that mentioned somewhere?
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>>152314821
Twitter
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>>152314821
>>152314997
http://tenshiscave.tumblr.com/post/153300055417/kubo-tite-bleach-twitter
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>>152315078
what sickness was he down with? Theres no way thats a common cold if it keeps coming back.
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>>152312869

We saw many Soldat after the fights in the Seretei were over, o none of them were killed. And none of the Quincy civilians living in the Wandenreich participated in the war. They are also alive. Several Sternritter had ambigious fates, so it is unknown what happened to them. The rest has been shown several times. List all the evil Quincy and you will see that it is only a few.
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>>152315642
Overwork. It's a prevalent problem among weekly mangaka.
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>>152316022
>[citation needed]
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>>152316104
For what? Instead of just writing these words, you could simply elaborate what you even mean. All these things have been shown in the manga. What else do you want?
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>>152316077
He's alright now, he even put on some weight and says he has nothing to do.
New series this year?
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>>152299196
Chad becoming a boxer is still stupid. If his whole arc was about choosing to fight to protect, then why would he start fighting for money? He should've fought Mask De Masculine and been inspired to become a pro-wrestler, especially since he's Mexican.
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>>152316184
I think he lost some weight. He looked very bad in the Jump ryu video from Jan last year.
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>>152316528
He was drawing the cover for 13 Blades in this video. The book came out in August 2015. This means the video was filmed before that.
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>>152316218
How come no one ever considers the possibility that maybe Chad is donating money he wins to charity?
He wouldn't be the first Mexican orphan to help out other orphans in Japanese fiction.
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>>152316137
>All these things have been shown in the manga. What else do you want?

Citation. You're claiming things that were never shown in the manga.
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>>152316865
Okay now I see that you just copy and paste these things without even thinking and that you can't read the manga.

Again just for you.

We saw that many Soldat were alive once the Shinigami stopped fighting in the Seretei and prepared to invade Wahrwelt. We saw many civilians in the Wandenreich, who were not fighting like the woman from Haschwalth's room. They were also alive. Several of the Sternritter like Giselle and Liltotto had wounds that are surviveable and a few like Askin, Lille and BG9 were last shown to be alive.

it has been stated several times that both sides are equally right/wrong. And Yhwach lasts words revealed that the Wandenreich did fight for a just cause.

And again, why don't you actually list the Sternritter that are actually evil instead of just copy and pasting the same words.
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>>152317355
>We saw that many Soldat were alive once the Shinigami stopped fighting in the Seretei and prepared to invade Wahrwelt. We saw many civilians in the Wandenreich, who were not fighting like the woman from Haschwalth's room. They were also alive. Several of the Sternritter like Giselle and Liltotto had wounds that are surviveable and a few like Askin, Lille and BG9 were last shown to be alive.

This isn't citation. Either provide the source from the manga that proves your claims, or stop posting.
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>>152317449
Or perhaps you should actually read the manga. Or otherwise you would actually know this. I already provided the context for the scenes. You can look them up yourself. I'm not going to post countless images here.
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>>152317796
Thank you for admitting you have no idea what citation is, and that you're claiming your headcanon as fact despite providing no source to back it.

Pathetic, really.
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>>152299196
The filler when Ichigo's bankai has its powers revealed.

The filler with the fight with hueg statues.

The filler with all the shit kubo bleached.
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>>152317986
>The filler when Ichigo's bankai has its powers revealed.
Try the entire middle part of the final arc.
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>>152317867
Seriously. I provided you the context for the scenes. Are you really that retarded that you can't read the chapters by yourself?

For the last fucking time. We saw many Soldat alive while the Shinigami were preparing to invade the Seretei. We saw that the Wandenreich had civillians during the chapters focusing on them between the invasions. The woman from Haschwalth's room never died and was also never on the battlefield. We never saw BG9 and Lille dying. Both were last seen alive. Nel stated that Askin was alive, when she jumped into the Giftball. Liltotto and Bazz-B had both wounds that are survivable when they lost against Yhwach and Haschwalth and Orihime and Giselle were just five meters away from them. Bambietta and Giselle are zombies they can't exactly die either.

What else do you fucking want? You just copy and past citation and that you need a source. I provived you the fucking context of the scenes, so that you can read it up yourself. Or are you that illiterate that you can't read the manga?
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>>152318203
see >>152317867
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>>152318391
Read the fucking manga. Read the chapters where the Shinigami are preparing to invade Wahrwelt. Read the chapter where we saw Uryuu becoming Yhwach's successor. Read the chapter where Giselle was stabbed in the heart. Read the Auswahlen chapters. Read the chapter where Giselle and Liltotto lost. Read the chapter of Nel jumping into the Giftball. Read the chapter of Lille confronting Kira.

If you can't even do that than it is your own fault.
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>>152318566
>claims headcanon as fact
>provides no source to back claim

Fuck off
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>>152318651
Okay. You are either really retarded or just an annoying troll. I gave you the actual chapters, so that you can read them. That is a source.

You just have to go to any mangasite and click the corresponding chapters. If you actually read Bleach you should know when which of the events happened.

But since you so far did not do that and instead just parroted the same words without knowing what they mean, I really wonder if you have the intellectual capability to perform such a simple task.
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>>152318848
Your original claim >>152309487

>The majority of the Soldat survived the war.
Citation needed.

>It's only the Sternritter that might all be dead. But even with them, a few might be alive.
Citation needed.

Nothing in the manga shows any of the Quincy besides Ichigo and Uryu are still alive. You're literally claiming headcanon as fact.
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>>152319180
We saw the Soldat alive in the Seretei even after the Shinigami stopped fighting them. What the fuck should have killed them? It is your headcanon that they are all dead. First provide a source that they actually have been killed.

And apparently you didn't read the word "might". Because then you would understand that I didn't say that the Sternritter are alive, but that several of them have a chance to be alive. And nothing so far states that they are all dead.
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>>152319499
>We saw the Soldat alive in the Seretei even after the Shinigami stopped fighting them
Citation needed.
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>>152319629
Are you retarded? I provided you the source several times. Read the chapters where the Shinigami are preparing to invade Wahrwelt and Ichigo killed the Soul King. You can clearly see the Soldat being alive. What is so hard for you to actually do that?
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>>152319733
>The majority of the Soldat survived the war.

Was your original claim. The Soldat being alive halfway through the war does not mean they survived the war, you absolute retard.
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>>152320219
Halfway through the war? You really are retarded. That was the endpahse of the war and all the Shinigami were stated to have stopped fighting. By the time Ichigo killed the Soul King no one was fighting anymore in the Seretei. So again who the fuck should have killed them?
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>>152320335
Burden of proof is on you to prove they survived; null hypothesis is they got Aushwalened' with every other Quincy.
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Isn't Aizen, like, totally dreamy?
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>>152320582
They didn't get selected. Yhwach stated that it was only for the Sternritter, that still had power. Otherwise we would have seen an image of the Soldat being selected or that Ryuken was also targetted. And no the burden of proof is not with me. You are accusing the Quincy of being all dead. So you have to actually proof that they were killed. And neither is that the null hypothesis. Null hypothesis is when there is no effect, while H1 is the hypothesis were there is actually an effect. So null hypothesis is that none of them were selected and now you have to prove that any of them were selected.
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>>152320663
Momo please. I thought you had finally moved past this.
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>>152320723
>And no the burden of proof is not with me.
Did you not make the original claim?
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>>152320768
No. The original claim was that all Quincy are dead.
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>>152320791
>The Quincy are not extinct.
[citation needed]

Either prove the Quincy are not extinct, or stop posting. You literally cannot.
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>>152320873
That was the original claim:
>>152307899
So no, burden of proof does not lie with me. You have to show proof that the Quincy are actually extinct. And them not showing up in the epilogue is not proof. Otherwise they Arrancar would also be all extinct. And as a matter of fact I already showed that nothing so far detrimental to the survival of the Soldat. But that doesn't matter. You have to proof that they are all extinct.
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>>152320732
Never.
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>>152321055
>You have to proof that they are all extinct.

But that was never my claim. If you made the claim "The Quincy are not extinct" then you need to back that with a source. At most, you can claim, "the Quincy might not be extinct", but unfortunately you didn't. Your claim is inherently false.
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>>152321166
>But that was never my claim.
>Are the quincies the most fucked faction? As of the ending, not only are they exterminated,

You're a liar. This was the original claim, for which you need the burden of proof, which obviosuly does not lie with me.
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>>152299196
Zangetsu/YHWACH revelation
Also at least with an anime I will know how to say YHWACH
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What does Aizen's lap feel like?
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>>152321876
Probably icky and stinky. Guy didn't shower for 12 years.
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>>152321537
Like I said, that wasn't my post, nor does that change the fact you're responce was incorrect.
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>>152322202
So you are just randomly jumping into a discussion that had did not involve you? Yeah sure.

And even if that's true, if you are answering for someone else, than you have to provide the burden of proof the other person failed to deliver. That the Quincy are exitinct is the original claim and burden of proof lies with that. Something that you have failed so far to deliver.

So until you make any other claims, why don't you provide any proof. And nothing I stated is incorrect so far. but as I stated, deliver some proof first.
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>>152303078
>>152313929
Just in case you didn't know. They actually made 3 OVA's that take place during Ringo vs Ikki and Kogarasumaru vs Old Sleeping Forest. Those were some of my favorite moments and it was sick to see them get animated.
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>>152322518
>And nothing I've stated is incorrect so far

Objectively it is, considering you have provided no proof.
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I want more Gigi.
Those two arguing faggots can kts
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>>152323761
Unless there is proof that the Quincy were extermintated, the statement was not incorrect. And since the first claim was that the Quincy are exterminated, the burden of proof lies with that claim. So first there has to be proof that the Quincy were exterminated. Only if that is actually given, is the statement that the Quincy are not exterminated incorrect.
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>>152324260
If you cannot back your claim then its invalid, regardless of who made the original claim.
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>>152321932
Would still sit on it.
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>>152324513
No. That goes against the definition of burden of proof. "When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim".

The first claim was that Quincy are exterminated, so burden of proof lies with that. Until there is any proof for that claim, I don't have to proof anything so far. I only have to show that there is now proof that the Quincy were exterminated, which I did.

So again, where is any proof for that claim? Unless you have any proof anything you claim in invalid and incorrect.
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>>152325269
The first claim was also without source or citation, but so was your own statement, therefore neither statement is valid. You've gone past burden of proof as a viable argument and are now using the "burden of proof fallacy" to claim that only one point of view requires citation to be correct.
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>>152309998
>he turned his Zan into a busty she-monkey
To this day I still deny that this happens in canon and Renji's zan spirit is still a nue.
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>>152325496
You are just digging yourself deeper, you know? It did not go past the point of burden of proof. it is still a valid argument, until the first claim has any proof. Until you provide any proof for that, I've to only proof that there is no proof that indicates that the Quincy are exterminated. I've provided plenty of evidence for that, which you still ignore.

The current situation is very simple. it was first claimed that the Quincy are exterminated, without showing proof. Then I provided evidence that proved that there is nothing that points towards the Quincy being exterminated. If there is nothing that indicates that the Quincy are exterminated, then there is no reason to assume that they are. I provided that and showed evidence for that and until you show any proof to back up the first claim, that is all I need.

The Arrancar by your logic would also be exterminated, since there is no proof that they are alive, when you first need some proof that they are all wiped out.

So either provide any proof or be quiet.
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>>152325735
It is. The spiritl was shown in the Mask de masculine fight in an omake and was still a nue there.
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>>152325735
Both forms are canon
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>>152326096
You haven't provided a singlr citable piece of evidence to prove your claim that "The Quincy are not extinct", only speculation that indicates they may not be extinct; they are not the same thing. I don't need to prove anything other than the fact that your claim is not validated by any source in the manga. The fact that your claim waas originally made in responce to an equally invalid claim no longer matters in this discussion.
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>>152326353
No, you can't get out of this. This is not how it works. You can't just magically give the burden of proof to someone else. It still matters that the first claim is invalid. It is actually quite pathetic how hard you try to defend an invalid claim without any proof. So either stop being a bitch and finally admit that you just claimed something without any proof or be quiet.

There is no reason to assume that the Quincy are extinct. So why would that claim exist? Until you provide any proof any further discussion is meaningless.
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>>152326762
Again, the original claim is irrelevant to this discussion; you've already demonstrated a criminal misunderstanding of "burden of proof" so I suggest you stop hiding behind that argument. The only correct statement in this scenario is "The Quincy may or may not be extinct, excluding the Isshin and Kurosaki families". There is nothing explicitly stated in the manga that states otherwise.
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>>152326902
And that is where you are wrong. You can't just state that the original claim is irrelevant for the discussion. It is you who doesn't seem to understand how burden of proof works.

And that is not the only correct statement. Unless there is anything that indicates that the Quincy are exterminated then it means that there is no reason to assume it in the first place. Again by your logic the Arrancar would also all be dead.

You can't even claim that the Quincy may be dead, unless you show any indication for why you think that may be the case. And if them not appearing in the epilogue is "proof" for you, then it also mean that the Arrancar also may be all dead.
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>>152314647
G A R B A G E
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>>152327585
The Arrancar argument is false equivalence since we were given information about what happened to them in the subsequent databook as well as in a subsequent arc; neither of which is the case for the Quincy.
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I would really look forward to seeing Ichigo's dual wielding being completely meaningless. Yamamoto being completely blown the fuck out was cool. Also seeing, despite the hype, the royal guard being completely useless, just so the main cast can once again get 5 more minutes to shine with new, shiny power-ups. And way more time dedicated to henchmen duels than the main antagonist, and his actual fight just consisting of black shapes that you don't know what they are and don't understand doing stretchy stuff. So exciting! And having the main antagonist's motivations explained almost right before it ends, a stroke of genius. The main antagonist being defeated by a deus ex machina introduced just a few episodes before. So many great moments!
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>>152323532
>yfw it didn't and more content is on the way
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Dear Matsubara-sensei,

I'm not sure you intended to reinforce my preference for the Ishida/Orihime ship with this passage, but somehow you just did.

http://tenshiscave.tumblr.com/post/155946155757/we-do-knot-always-love-you-snippet-translation
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>>152299196
Considering the 3rd season of DBZ Kai eventually happened, anything is possible.
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>>152329333
I like how Ichigo and Uryu are still the same with each other. Can't be in the same space without bickering.
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orihime said "welcome home kurosaki-kun"

yuzu wanted orihime to stay longer

yuzu and orihime cooked dinner together

orihime ate said dinner with her future family
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I miss Ulquiorra.
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>>152299196

Would love to see Yamamoto grill Overkill like he's swatting a fly. I just have the feeling they'd get that one scene right.
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>>152329912
why? just imagine him as the dust
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>>152329735
Tsunderes
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if the anime came back perriot would retcon the original ending and make it ichiruki
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>>152330031
I don't think so. Kubo stated that he wanted to end the entire series with Kazui and Ichika meeting. They can't just cut that out.
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>>152327806
I'm talking about the Arrancar after the final arc you idiot, who going by your logic should be in the same category.
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>>152323971
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>>152330031
if they were to do that then thats pretty sad desu. i would expect that behavior from some assblasted teenager, not a grown adult.
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>>152330093

Perriot does what they want because they own the Bleach license because Kubo sold it to them. Hence why they practically made Ichiruki canon in the anime
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>>152330031
Has it ever happened before?

I mean manga and anime have different canon pairings?
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>>152330426
Look up Queen-Zelda for the epitome of shipfag insanity.

It's pretty goddamn funny.
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>>152330434
Nope, Shueisha owns the rights.
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>>152330532
Ugly NSFW art right?
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>>152305019
Those hats are fucking cool.
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>>152330670
Regardless of pairing, this is the reason anything involving Rukia is great.
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>>152330730
I'd say their stuff is decent. Line-work could be better, foreshortening and anatomy can be a bit iffy, and they tend to look pretty static, but their coloring is pretty damn good.

But I wasn't talking about their art per-se. Rather, some of the shit they say in their commentaries. Their newest LinkxZelda pic contains... quite the rant.
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>>152330755
Nah, majority of RR fanart keeps her character. A lot of IR fanart makes Rukia act like Orihime for some reason.
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>>152299196
Its bleach, so it probably shouldnt ne animated.

The credits of the last episode.
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>>152330434
They wouldn't have ended if they did have the rights.
Shuiesha doesn't want more bleach money cause something happened between them and Kubo.
He might have too much % of bleach and that pissed them off.
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>>152330904
>Shuiesha doesn't want more bleach money cause something happened between them and Kubo.
No, it was because the ratings were really low.
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>>152330852
Her height, anon.
I was talking about her height.

She is tiny and adorable and perfect.
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>>152330481
Fullmetal Alchemist if you compare 2003 and the manga. And even then did Ed marry someone who looked exactly like Winry.
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>>152330969
And I was talking about keeping her in character.

I agree that her height is good. It contrasts well with her confident and strong personality. I think Kubo really nailed it with character design.
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>>152331012
>And even then did Ed marry someone who looked exactly like Winry.
Wait, seriously? He ends up marrying someone else in the 03 version?
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For Bleach manga to conclude in August 2016 with no anime running is a bit strange. Side materials like games, movies, musicals tend to need a main work to generate a main consumer base.

Bleach had a lot of video games circa 2005-2009, then it tapers off to only a few released in the following years. Now there are 2(?), including the pretty well-received Brave Souls and a new partnership to release games in China (titles chosen are Bleach and OPM).

Musical had a successful run from 2005-2010, then the attempt at reprise in 2011-2012 failed as people don't like the original storyline and preferred the original cast. It went vacuum for a few years and then on 2016 they announced a revival, same old storyline with a whole new cast, who is more well-received than the 2011-2012 roster. This would've led to cashing in with the new cast for more shows in the next few years, but with no manga or anime I wonder if they can coast by with 2.5D fanbase alone.

Same goes for the live action. It would've been better to release it in say 2014 while the main work was still running. Who will still care about Bleach in 2018?
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>>152331165
>Who will still care about Bleach in 2018?
I'm guessing the ones that came up with the idea for the live-action thought differently than you.
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>>152331067
Yeah, there is an ova that shows him having children or grandchildren. One of them looks like him and the other like Winry. It doesn't look like he made it back or Winry to our world, so it must be her doppelgänger.
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>>152331288
>so it must be her doppelgänger.
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>>152331248
If nothing else, we will get at least another chapter from Kubo and if the movie is successful, we might have something like the Death Note movies, where they will end up with their own verse and canon. The director of Bleach is going to make the Death Note sequel Light Up the new world afterall.
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>>152330852
>A lot of IR fanart makes Rukia act like Orihime for some reason.
Methinks you are being unfairly biased.

Especially with the revelation that Rukia does, in fact, drops spaghetti when it comes to dealing with romance.
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>>152300827

>shunsui bankai

only if they have por una cabeza playing when he activates it
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>>152309773
great...worldsaving/ending secrets and the biggest fucking weakling in the gotei is going to find them
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>>152331357
>Rukia does, in fact, drop spaghetti when it comes to dealing with her new last name

FTFY
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>>152331356
>, we will get at least another chapter from Kubo
I'm excited, but confused. The villian in the new chapter is supposedly going to show up in the live-action so is the live-action not going to follow the manga?
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>>152299196
No, it was pretty terrible. If Bleach had ended after SS arc it would be 10/10 but it just got worse and worse; the last arc was a disgrace. Let it die in peace.
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>>152330099
In which case, you're still wrong.
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>>152331492
>New Last Name
Wut?

She's Captain Kuchiki (#2) in the epilogue though, well after her marriage to Renji.
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>>152331248
Well no shit they do, but who will they promote it to? Death Note and Kenshin are two successful manga-based LAs that ride on a fanbase that still exist. Death Note in particular panders to the L fanbase that wants to see him win, plus the "handsome men" fanbase. Kenshin have global nostalgiafags, plus the fanbase of costumed martial art movies who may not care about anime/manga to come and see it.

I guess we will see this year, what kind of movie they're making and who they want to see it. I saw rumors that Tamaki Hiroshi and Shirota Yuu play Byakuya and Renji respectively though, so those actors' popularities are banked on at least.
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>>152331634
The novel reveals that she took his last name, but she didn't change it in the Gotei 13 since she thought she would faint from being called "Mrs. Abarai" so many times.
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>>152331559
Exactly.
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>>152331248
you mean the sweetener for kubo to cancel his manga?
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>>152331632
Yeah, no. Not really. Unless you can show some proof for the Arrancar being alive after the war. Since you can't going by your logic they all may be dead.
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>>152331733
but we got some pictures of Renji already and it seems like they were following the SS arc?
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>>152331786
It has already been stated that it will not follow the the story of the manga. Some elements will be incorporated though. Renji may be there trying to take Rukia back, but because of the new villain, things might go off-rails.
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>>152331559
>>152331356
>It seems that Kubo is going to make a manga special for the live action movie. Most likely an intro. And the movie will have original enemies. Oh and Fishbone D will probably still be the first Hollow encounter. Designs in movie looks weird because CGI will take over most of the movie effects. Kubo wants a humanoid original bad guy because of this.
Summary translation from the blog of a Japanese fan who went to Jump Festa
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>>152331891
Oh okay, thanks. It's a shame since the SS is good.
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>>152331779
Again, they may or may not be alive; unless you can provide a definitive source, your claim will be invalid regardless.
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>>152331904
>Designs in movie looks weird because CGI will take over most of the movie effects.

I feel like it's going to be bad. They would need a Hollywood budget to make it look good.
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>>152331634
She officially changes her last name but still goes with her former name for professional purpose.

For the first 7 years it's even practical, having 2 Abarai-fukutaichous would be confusing. But now there's 2 Kuchiki-taichous so maybe she should just tell everyone to call her Rukia.
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>>152331955
The Arrancar are going to be mentioned in the next novel. If Urahara and the others survived then so did Nel because she rescued them.
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>>152314647
I love how Kommamura's sacrifice was rendered pointless, because Bambi was brought back by Zombietarp and then killed by Ywach.

So Komma literally wasted his life. Fucking idiot.
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>>152332003
>professional purpose.
no it because being called "mrs.abarai" flustered her too much. the scene is very cute.
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>>152331786
>some pictures
One.

And it's not even clear, people assume it's Renji because it looks like a tall guy with brownish hair wearing shihakushou and something on his head that looks like Renji's old shades.
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>>152332029
Unfortunately the same cannot yet be said for any of the Quincy.
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>>152331978
Did you see Death Note and AssClass? The CG there are decent.
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>>152332048
He made Gigi happy. That counts for something.
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>>152332048
You know he's confirmed alive, right?
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>>152332029
>>152332122
Nel stated that she also was going to say Askin and the novel will also be about the Quincy, since the Soul King is a Quincy. It was also never stated that the Hisagi novel will mention the individual Arrancar, but rather that the mystery behind the Arrancar as a race will be discovered.
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>>152332048
Koma and Tousen are the two most pitiful characters that people don't care about.
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>>152332213
*save
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>>152332213
>but rather that the mystery behind the Arrancar as a race will be discovered.

It'll probably confirm if they're all dead or not though. Just like how this novel confirmed that Urahara and Yoruichi are alive.

If some Quincy survived then maybe they're living in HM now. They really have nowhere else to go.
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>>152332213
Then we'll know in a few months; until then, your argument is void.
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>>152332307
They can make their own dimension. They also have the world of the living.
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>>152332276
I care about Tousen, but most don't. It's like how most don't care about Doggie and just wanna complain about him to bitch more about Bleach.
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>>152332347
It is not void. You can't just claim something without any evidence. Unless there is any evidence, then there no reason to assume that both races are extinct. And that you now also assume that the Arrancar are also extinct shows how faulty your argument is.
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cant wait for grimmjow and nel and her buddies to be revealed to alive and fine like urahara and yoruichi were just so fans can stop fighting about it. also expecting some mention of harribel and her trio since narita pays attention to details like that.
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>>152332213
It's kinda funny that the Hisagi novel will be about everything but Hisagi. Poor Shuuhei can never get a break.
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>>152332537
He will have a fight at the very least. But yeah. he is more like the vehicle that is going to tell a bunch of stories. Durarara, Baccano and Spirits are forever with you are similiar in that regard. aren't they? Narita probably chose him for four reasons:

He is popular but not important
He has an unknown Bankai
He is connected to Tosen whose left behind secret (probably something about his murdered friend) will be connected to the other mysteries
He has a motorbike. Narita loves motorbikes.
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>>152331904
>>152331978
I looked up the original post
http://blog.livedoor.jp/poppy_moon/archives/52041361.html
and I'm not certain but it seems that the one who thinks the designs on CG look weird and wants a humanoid bad guy is the blogger, not Kubo? Which means they haven't even seen the designs.
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>>152332416
I see you have adapted my argument; which means that you agree that without any valid citation, there is no proof that any of the Quincy survived the war. Your argument goes both ways.
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>>152299196
if its will be anime
kubo i beg you pls put some more "core" content in anime version
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I just want a slice of life manga or anime with Rukia living in Ichigo's closet and they do ghost buster shenanigans and eventually grow an unbreakable bond and one fateful night fuck like rabbits in their bed and the school continues the rumors about them and it turns out Rukia gets pregnant.
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>>152333655
>I just want a slice of life manga or anime with Rukia living in Ichigo's closet and they do ghost buster shenanigans and eventually grow an unbreakable bond and one fateful night fuck like rabbits in their bed and the school continues the rumors about them and it turns out Rukia gets pregnant.
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>>152333739

sounds good to me
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>>152333760
It's not. Seriously, how long are you going to mourn a shounen pairing that never had a chance in the first place?
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>>152333845

Does it even matter that it didn't become canon?

I still love the relationship.
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>>152333869
>I still love the relationship.

No one asked desu. This thread was going fine.
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>>152333739
That pic reminds me how it's a bummer that the epilogue doesn't say anything about what Ichigo does nowadays aside from scowling and having an overpowered kid who wanders around town alone at age 4-5.
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>>152334046
He only scowled when Rukia was joking around though.

Also, its the norm over in Japan for kids to wander the streets at a very young age. They even go on trains alone.
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>>152334115
How young is very young?
Do you live in Japan or just parrot something you've heard said here without proof?
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>>152322518
> This is how atheists actually think arguments work.
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>>152334306
Articles and a short documentary online. The seventh grader was taking public transportation by herself on the way to school.

Also a popular Japanese tv show thats centered around children as young as two or three running a quick errand for their parents.
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>>152334624
7th grader is already a teenager, whereas online articles typically mention elementary school kids of age 7-9.

Kazui is 5 at most. Unless Ichigo knocks up Orihime before graduation. And the difference between a 5 year old and a 7 year old is much more significant than that of a 15 & 17 year old.
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>>152332537
He's a pretty boring character that never actually effects the plot whenever he popped up so it makes sense. By Kubo's admittance he's a fanservice character. Which was all the worse during that last arc since it was clear he was only around because fans liked him and not because Kubo had any plans in mind for something he could do that would interest him.
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On the topic of kids, how much of a genius is Ichika? She's literally (not just physically) 6 years old and already finished the first 4-years of the academy curriculum.

Kaien, a genius, finished the 6-year course in 2 years, and Gin, another genius, finished it in 1.
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>>152334842
The little girl in the short documentary was seven. My mistake.

I read an article by an American woman who lives in Japan, and started a family with her Japanese husband. She stated that her three year old will be taking the bus to kindergarten by himself.

She also stated that Japanese children start taking public transport or walking by themselves to school at the age of fix or six.
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>>152335158
five* my mistake once again
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>>152335152
She's the child of the deuteragonist so of course she's going to be super talented. It's like Sarada from Naruto.
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>>152335152
>genius is Ichika
Probably not genius since she'd be finsihed if she was. But she's the daughter of two high ranking officers with bankai, and probably gets special treatment for being part of the Kuchiki clan.

She's a gotei apprentice though so she's not actually all the way finished with her studies.
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The real is question is which division would Ichika join?
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>>152335593
11th
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>>152335754
And become Zaraki's new shoulder loli.
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>>152335754
Byakuya will kill Renji.
Or at least give him extra paperwork for a month.
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>>152332978
No I did not. I showed you how faulty your argument is by replacing the Quincy with the Arrancar in the final arc, that shows that it doesn't go both ways.
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>>152299196
So... can we all agree that we should just stop at Aizen arc (anime)? Or should i give the fullbringer arc another try? I don't mind it in the manga, but it feels too filler-y most of the times.
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>>152336235
Fullbring arc wasn't so bad IMO. If you want a "happier" ending you can continue there, the animation is pretty good too in those episodes. Though tbqh in terms of narrative, the Aizen arc pretty much already finished the story.
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>>152336235
Do what you want. I stopped at Bount.
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Why would anyone want the anime back? A databook is better and seems more likely.
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Ichigo never grew out of his "must have fair fights" code, or did he? Even when fighting Yhwach he still stupidly made a point about it being 2 (with Orihime) vs 1.
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>>152336422
I think he did grow out it since he told Orihime he was counting on her in the end + Aizen and Uryu did their part in the final fight. That was three against one.
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>>152336378
I want it back for the sole reason of wanting the Brave Souls game to cover the last arc.

But if they can make it work without an anime (meaning they'd commission new stills, cast VAs for new characters and come up with more original movesets based only on the manga, and still make a profit) it's fine too.
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>Sora died in Kurosaki clinic
I wonder if it comes up in a conversation between Isshin and Orihime. If I were to write the novel, I'd include it somewhere in the dinner scene.
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>>152337149
That's such a sad topic to bring up though.

I just like how Orihime lost her only family at the Kurosaki clinic and then rebuilt it with the boy that lived her. It's like something good came out of a place that held bad/tragic memories. I'm not saying that I like that Sora in general btw.
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>>152337244
lived there*

I like that Sora died in general btw*

Sorry. I'm a mess today.
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>>152337244
Precisely because it's sad. Of course not like bringing it up casually. It could also be unspoken but implied, like Orihime looking at the clinic, or bonding over surviving a loved one.
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>>152337438
I understand what you mean. I would've liked if Hisana was brought up.
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>>152333655
I'd much prefer Ichigo bringing home another girl and almost scoring until Rukia loudly gives him advice from the closet.
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>>152299196
Best to forget about this
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>>152339043
He kicks Rukia out when his girl goes to the bathroom, and when he tries to restart another one shouts advice from the ceiling. It's Isshin.
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What does Bleach mean in terms of the series?
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>>152341306
>The title wasn't Bleach when Tite Kubo decided to draw a story about Shinigami. This was before he drew the one-shot manga that appeared in Akamaru Jump. The weapon wasn't a sword, but a scythe. Only Rukia had a scythe and the other characters used guns. At that point, the title was Snipe (as in "Sniper"). Right before he started drawing, he began to think that a sword would be better and realized he couldn't use Snipe as a title anymore. He began looking for a title that grasped the bigger picture. Shinigami are associated with the color black, but it would have been boring to use "black". "White", on the other hand, can suggest black as a complementary color. So Tite Kubo chose "Bleach" to evoke the impression of the color white.

Basically, the real reason is because Kubo thinks it sounds cool.
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>>152339043
>>152340470
I have always preferred Rukia with Renji and Orihime with Ishida but until now I've never considered how that outcome might have led into an awesome universe in which the cast constantly bullies Ichigo regarding his love life.
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>>152300195
>he trains so he won't get his ass raped but in the end beardbadguy still rapes his ass and a fucking deus ex machina arrow saves the day be animated
FTFY
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>>152299196
The only two scenes worthwhile.
OMG going Bankai
Misaki's tits
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>>152343260
>Misaki's tits
Would they even air that?
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>>152314647
It felt rushed, because Bleach got axed, regardless how many excusses Kubo tries to find for this it simply got axed.
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I might be the only one that thinks Rukia saving Urahara would've be a nice final way to include her more in the end, especially when you consider his final words before fainting.
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No it shouldn't.
That last arc was an abortion, and I feel sorry for anyone who had any real hope of Kubo getting his shit together.
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>>152299196
No. Bleach is a horrible anime and manga. it's a lot better manga out there that need to be animated.
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>>152343378
Why Rukia? So she could get poisoned too? Nel can heal and has a horse resurreccion, whith which she could carry more than one person.
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>>152343508
> Kubo getting his shit together.

He won't
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It all went downhill after the first invasion, so no. The series would be hated more than it already is if you expose it to more people.
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I honestly liked the first invasion. Then the training/flashback arc was okay. The Wandenreich was a mess. Maybe they can go FMA non-Brotherhood with it.
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>>152325735
Wonder what Ichika's zanpakuto spirit would look like. Maybe a Raijuu, judging by the shape of that tsuba.
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Some wants the anime to continue, some doesn't.
Would anyone put money into a fan animation project in hopes of Shueisha-sempai noticing the interest, though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou6a7_voc0M
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>>152332307
>HM
Hollow spiritual power is poison to quincies' souls. HM is not an option. Unless they all get their own special-gigai-shinigami soulmates as a balancer.
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>>152345790
Her mom's is a yuki-onna and her dad's is a nue, so if she also gets a mythical Japanese creature it would not be out of place.
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>>152345790
>Raijuu
Taken.
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>>152348670
Ah, I forgot about Thundercat.
Aside from cat, Raijuu is also portrayed as fox, wolf or weasel though so Ichika can get one of the others.
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>>152299196
Some parts sure will be nice to see animated.
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>>152299196
>chapter with this transformation is called Horn of Salvation

>God, my rock, in him I will take refuge; my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge. My savior, you save me from violence.

>god rock
>shield
>horn of salvation

AIICHIHIME CONFIRMED
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>ywn read a doujin where kazui and uncle aizen are having a tea party. aizen is sitting on a small toy chair and drinking imaginaty tea from a toy teacup. while being absolutely serious about it.
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>>152299196
https://youtu.be/uTm7bLAHmz0

Yes.
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>>152299196
Everything with this man. He did nothing wrong and fought like a Quincy till the unfair end
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>>152341306
"To make white"; or in other words, to purify.
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>>152336169
In which case, you failed. Pathetic, really.
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>>152335094

He will only be remembered for the Findor fight, which the anime did a fantastic job.
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>>152355298
They recycled Ichigo vs. Ulquiorra in some scenes.
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>>152299196
If this shit medium still have some auto respect then there shouldn't be any adaptations of this hack never again.
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>>152355408
It still wound up looking pretty damn nice, recycled or no.
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Kazuhiro Yamaji could be a good replacement to voice Yamamoto

His Silver Fang voice matches him perfectly.
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>>152355847
Who would voice Yhwach?
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>>152356097
You know who.
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Just got round to reading the Spirits Are Forever With You summaries and the prologue

>The story starts with the 1st page of an article written by Hisagi Shuuhei for Seireitei Communications. His readers asked him to write about Don Kanonji. Why? Because there was a certain “incident” in the 17 months between Kurosaki Ichigo losing and regaining his powers. Hisagi wrote an article to shed light on this incident —
>However, the rest of the article is missing. Central 46 replaced it with a censored version and the original one was burned.

kind of already suggests why Hisagi was picked as the MC of Narita's next novel.
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>>152357659
Hisagi came up in the 13 BLADES short story as well.

It seems like Narita had been planning this storyline for a while now, its likely he's been playing close attention to the final arc in order to wrap up a lot of Kubo's loose ends.
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>>152357659
And his connection to Tousen. Who was one of the trio.
Who knows what kind of articles was Aizen pushing through him in the Seireitei Bulletin.
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>>152299196
1. Worse things have received an anime adaptation, so why not? Problem is, nobody will bother with Bleach because it sells like shit.
2. Yhwach vs. Ichibei.
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>>152359230
>Yhwach vs. Ichibei.
This. Also Yhwach vs. Yama
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>>152345790
Its not a lightning bolt
Kubo drew the same shape on harribels face, and repeats it on renjis tsuba
To kubo, that's more a tribal shape.
Another thing to remember, kain was water, isshin was fire, ichigo was darkness, relatives don't have a strict relation to their zans elements.
It's far more likely her zan will be serated or jagged like her fathers, if her tsuba is also tribal.
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I need a new manga drawn by Kubo.
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>>152354938
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>>152332003
The other captains likely still call her kuchiki-san, so no real change.
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>>152331165
Because, odds are, they'll be announcing a filler free version of bleach (like dbz kai) to be launched in 2018, with the new arc animated at the end.
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>>152361223
Me too, BUT DEFINITELY NOT WRITTEN BY HIM.
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>>152361637
Then what's the point?
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What did Ichigo exactly do during the final arc?

There isn't a single instance where Ichigo actually played a role in the final arc.

Ichigo had no goals or real motivation to fight Yhwach other than he attacked these people I barely have a connection to with the exception of a few people. Ichigo talks so little in the 88 chapters he appears in that we don't know his thoughts, feelings, fears, and desires other than I have to fight Yhwach and Yhwach will monologue for everything else

Ichigo wasn't even needed to kill Yhwach since anyone else could've swung a sword after the deus ex arrow even after spending so much time establishing Ichigo has powered up he was still beaten by Askim off screen

What did Ichigo actually do?
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>>152362170
Try reading it again, you clearly missed some things.
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>>152362477
Right, I have to mention how Ichigo devolved from a guy who shows his resolve and even against foes who are significantly stronger than himself to a person who pisses himself at the sight of Yhwach that had to have Renji shout at him to make him fight
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>>152362170
Ichigo wants to protect people, him losing his zan, the truth of his birth and the whole thing at the end with him going into despair and rising again is to show that he's still a human with emotions.

Kubo does it again.
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>>152299196

I don't want the anime coming back if the last five chapters aren't retconned into at least thirty chapters worth of stuff. The rushed ending could have been even shittier, but I don't want to let down people who didn't read the arc.

My minimum requests would be- something substantial depicting the real origins of the soul king, a fight with Haschwalth at least as long as the other elite SR fights, a clarified history of the Vandenreich, a little more drama and mystery surrounding Uryuu's loyalty and his given powers, and finally, a means of defeating Yhwach which makes more sense than "well, he didn't really check what Ryuken was concocting".

I believe if someone actually makes the anime, they'd be pretty eager to do this. Just out of the willingness to make a better product.
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>>152332048

rescued Shinji

who by the way, lost nearly all his coolness factor
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i miss giselle
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>>152362688
Denser than a black hole
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>>152362954
Who?
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>>152362884
>anime exclusive ending
>better than manga ending
>ever
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>>152361948
Tite is great artist, but poor writer.
Thus he should find someone better in this area for some future collaboration.
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>>152363264
Kubo's art and writing go hand in hand, though; he's the kind of person who will draw a character first, and then build a story around them (ie. Rukia and Bleach). Anyone writing for Kubo would really need to be in sync with Kubo's artistic process; the whole of Bleach's early success was because of his amazing character and Bankai designs, which he created along with each Captain.
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>>152362170
Okay, lets start simply post royal guard
He saved kenpachis life, which in turn allowed kenpachi to eventually hold off gerard (and as we know, buying time against gerard was essential)
Then, he's the reason grimmjow, neliel, and the fullbringers were there. Without that, askin wouldn't be dead, or if he was, yoruichi, her bro, and urahara would have died. Ishida also would not have been delivered up to the floating platforms which is where he got the special arrow.
Then ichigo fought ywach and pushed him to take his quincy hollow powers away, which meant that when tsukishima restored his bankai, his shinigami powers allowed for that break apart attack.
Lastly, aizens assault wouldn't have worked if it was anyone other than ichigo, cause they would have seen the illusion instead of aizen.
Oh, and there's also the fact that ishida would likely not trust anyone else to make the killing blow other than ichigo
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>>152364103
Don't bother replying to a black hole.
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>>152362954
Why did someone feel the need to edit Orc and Elf to this end?
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>>152362954
I feel like Chad would be better as the orc.
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>>152364103
Not him but I'll respond.
>He saved kenpachis life
Fair point, one of the few moments when he was actually shining this arc.
> he's the reason grimmjow, neliel, and the fullbringers were there
It is true, but all of these are results of his past actions, and I guess the complaint was about what Ichigo himself did in the last arc.
>pushed him to take his quincy hollow powers away
He was gonna take them regardless of Ichigo's performance. That reminds me, we still don't know why he needed them after absorbing the SK.
>which meant that when tsukishima restored his bankai, his shinigami powers allowed for that break apart attack
Could you elaborate?
>aizens assault wouldn't have worked if it was anyone other than ichigo
Royal Guards, Quincy and possibly Ginjo should be able to pull a slash like this off and they (likely) didn't see KS.
>ishida would likely not trust anyone else to make the killing blow other than ichigo
Back in HM, Ishida entrusted his life to Mayuri (who murdered his grandfather and people) and Renji (who he only knew through one short fight). I don't think he would have a problem.
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>>152299196
Only if they get the bleach anime writers to help Kubo fix this clusterfuck of silliness and we get a two hour ending that ties up some loose ends and shows a small adventure starring ichigo and rukiyas kid.
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>>152366937
In other words, a LN adaptation?

In which case they might as well do Spirits too.
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>>152366937
Who's going to be the voice of reason between the two of them? Ichika's older, but she seems to have inherited her dad's impetuousness.
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>>152367204
Nemu.
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>>152312874
Okay, so why. Why is, in fact the operative question here. What serves the form of when, which is itself the unknowing blind servant of why. So why do I keep running into you. Y-you cute piece of junk!~
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>>152367355
Less voice of reason more very loud girl who fights Ichika and has more experience knowledge so she'll be the one to explain things.

I'm thinking they'll be in some situation, wi
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>>152316800
That would be great, but the world does not abide such beauty as I have seen it.
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>>152302924

Anon, Gremmy is supposed to be kind of a lame/cool simultaneous character. Like most Bleach bad guys, he's as epic as he is pitiful.
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>>152367355
>Nemu
>reason
You do know that Nanagou's a brainwashed artificial soul who lives solely for Mayuri-sama. Nothing so far says that Hachigou will be much different.
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>>152320663
I'm with you there fruit cup. He is my first pick for dream world boyfriend.
>Guess my color choices
>Wait, wait, wrong board sorry, moving on with it
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>>152334411
>atheist slandering
Hey, leave me out of this. I'm just here to check up on things.
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>>152363154

Yu Yu Hakusho did it.

>>152363785

Kubo can make a new manga himself, just as long as he resists making assloads of characters and a setting with a scope too wide to explain in less than a couple years.
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Chad and Orihime are both orphans who does well in school. Chad and Orihime both work straight out of high school instead of going to university.

And yet, I don't see people up in arms about Chad not pursuing higher education?
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>>152329976
Everyone in the realms inhaled a bit of Ulquiorra upon his death, and that, my dear chanlings is why bleach was cancelled. Everyone caught his nihilistic defeatism upon death. He had the last laugh, or maybe the first laugh. Did he ever laugh? Well, there's a little bit of Ulquiorra in us all, that's what matters now.
>I MAY ACTUALLY FUCKING HATE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM
>WHY
>WHY CAN'T THEY JUST DO WHAT I TELL THEM TO DO
>I'M SURE NORRIN RADD NEVER HAD TO PUT UP WITH THIS TRASH
>I GAVE UP FANFIC HADES FOR THIS
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>>152330345
The only pure love in this horrid world of ours.
>Giselle drove Ywach to crazy town station upon her absorbing into Ywach
>You re-read his dialogue after her death
>Everything makes sense, doesn't it?
>The nightmare has only just started for you
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>>152330426
>........
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>>152332978
Son of bitch, just kiss captain hypnosis already Urahara, we know your taste in fanfics.
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>>152353392
FUND AN ENTIRE GAME SERIES and maybe some etiquette guides to drinking tea in a diplomatic setting, not naming names but it seems topical
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>>152362170
You believed that was Kurosaki Ichigo during that fight, fascinating.
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>>152363117
Yes, I'm here. Did you want something or do you just like ringing my doorbell and running away afterward?
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>>152365046
You missing a lot of context I see. Let's let a 4chan expert explain the long and winding backstory of this to you. But not me. God no, please.
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I wasn't on /a/ back when this reveal happened in the manga. I'm really curious how /a/ reacted. Was it shock? Did many expect a higher number? Was there a shitstorm?
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>>152369069
>69069
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>kubo writes an isekai series next and it reaches one piece level

How would you feel?
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>>152299196
Eagle eye animation when 8 Sternritters surround DS Ichigo
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>>152299196
>anime comes back
>every episode ends on a cliffhanger
>we arrive to the elite guard fights
>thisisntevenmyfinalform.jpg
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>>152369168
Reaching One Piece level is a one in a trillion occurrence. Kubo could make something that looks really stylish and could even write a good plot if he took the time to learn from his mistakes (which he probably wouldn't), but no mangaka will come close to Oda's level for a long time.
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>>152368364
Yhwach doesn't actually absorb Sternritter. He only takes the soul pieces back. And Giselle is probably the last person one should write of as dead. She is like a cockroach.
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>>152369804
Kubo would pobably have learnt from his mistakes. Thinks like too many characters should be something he would have learned from. Honestly the final arc was, when it came to his usual mistakes, quite the improvement. Many other things are because of how he things Shonen manga should be. If he would write a Seinen, he would probably approach things differently.
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>>152299196
Air Gear is better than Bleach!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N99iVsTposQ
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>>152368835
shut up and take my money
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http://tenshiscave.tumblr.com/post/156003871472/we-do-knot-always-love-you-snippet-translation

another translation. byakuya is a nice guy.
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>>152371878
Now I want to know how Byakuya reacted to Rukia's pregnancy. He was probably thrilled but stayed cool on the outside.
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>>152371878
>50 years ago the Gotei has so few days off that Byakuya, a rich noble with a butler as his disposal, needed 2 months to go through marriage procedures
They really go out of their way to portray Yama-jii's SS as backwards ass bureaucracy hell.
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>>152309998
>Rukia
>beautiful
According to who? Everyone keep saying how Orihime was beautiful though. To Ichigo, Rukia had the body of his little sister. He never quite perceived her as attractive.
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>>152309998

Ichigo was clearly into women with developed curves. Rukia used his nine years old sister's pajamas. If anyone would find the other attractive, it would have been Rukia because Ichigo is orange haired Kaien in appearance.
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>>152309998
Renji was always better than Ichigo. Ichigo became a pussy when he lost his powers and needed to be babysat. Rukia was his babysitter and mommy more than a companion and equal. That's why I was against the pairing.

Renji was shat on by the plot but he never acted as a pussy when his sword broke in two times. He also lived a childhood far rougher than Ichigo and wasn't traumatized over petty bullshit. Rukia wanted to marry a man, not a little boy.
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>>152299196
>Should the Thousand-Year Blood War arc be animated?

>It is Kubo's endgame.
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>>152373430
Renji definitely finds her attractive, Byakuya probably too since she basically looks like Hisana, Keigo and the boys at school thought she was attractive, Orihime called her beautiful. Those are the only examples I could think of.

The characters whos beauty was brought up the most are Rangiku and Orihime though especially Orihime.
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can anybody translate?
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>>152368960
Top post anon
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>>152373828
>>152373430
People who think Rukia is attractive: Renji, Kon, Keigo, Byakuya (by virtue of being Hisana's doppelganger), Orihime
People who think Rangiku is attractive:
Gin, Hisagi, Iba, Kon, Keigo, Isshin, Tatsuki
People who think Orihime is attractive: Ichigo, Keigo, the fanboys at school who think she's an idol and sneak pictures of her, Kon, Karin, Tatsuki, Yumichika, Aizen, Loly, Chizuru, Shishigawara
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>>152374061
I forgot about Kon.
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>IRfags thought rukia was unhappy to get married to renji because of the cover
>novel reveals it was a mutual decision and that shes super excited and happy

nice
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>>152374172
Kon & Keigo probably says any woman who is not outright ugly is beautiful.

Kyouraku too, in the novel he suggests that Rukia would make a beautiful bride.
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>>152374293
>Rukia would make a beautiful bride.
He was right since she looks very beautiful on the cover.
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>>152374285
Don't need to ship IR to see this strawman.
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The novel sold a total of 36,366 copies so far and it's been selling out in stores so its getting a second reprint. This info is from last week.
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Did Gin do anything wrong?
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>>152309676
>>152309559
>>152309515

in japan. it wont be.

in america they'll just color it black.

in germany they'll just cut every scene she's in. even the ending ones. jk. they'll just remove all the pointy stuff though.
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>>152376804
Killed people to prove his worth to Aizen.
Emotionally messed with Rukia, Byakuya, Kira, Hinamori and Hitsugaya.
Pursued a revenge Rangiku never wanted instead of just be by her side for 100 years.
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>>152353392
>ywn read a doujin about Karin the tittymonster
>ywn get any more material involving Karin the tittymonster in general
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>>152380095
Based Shiba genes.
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>>152373926
>orihime will never be your mom growing up

why even live
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I'd love to see Toshiro's entire transformation and fight animated.
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>>152381941
>fight animated.
The one against Gerard? No thanks. Such a waste of panel time.
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>>152381485
A lot of anons seem to take it for granted that Kazui's going to be a boob guy like his dad when he grows up, but I don't think he's going to enjoy them in a sexual way. I think he's just going to like big breasts because they're soft and comfy.
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>>152382447
Why did Ichigo choose that kind of haircut? Because he would look like his dad more? Because Aizen inspired him? Also, is Yuzu still the one who cuts his hair?
I have so many questions.
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>>152299196
Id be fine with more Databooks
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>>152383560
I think Kubo wanted that he looked like his father.
Fangirls wanted an Ichigo with long hair, but I think that is not the idea that Kubo had of an adult married Ichigo, and I don't think that long hair suits Ichigo's personality, he don't like to stand out
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>>152383943
Is it true that at some point Kubo tweeted that he designed Ichigo's older form, but deleted the tweet shortly after?
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>>152299196
No. May this abomination rest in peace. Last arc was terrible and disappointing even for diehard Bleach fans.
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>>152383943
Young Isshin looks better. Maybe it's just the face.
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>>152299196
why do you hate yourself?
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>>152332155
he turned back into a dog, that's like cutting your dick off for no reason
but i bet he's happy and satisfied
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>>152363785
he's like the micheal bay of manga
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>>152386485
I wonder who are those puppies shown in an illusttation from the novel..
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>>152378103
>Killed people to prove his worth to Aizen.
What, the third seat? Pretty sure that was one of the guys that messed with Rangiku anyway.
>Emotionally messed with Rukia, Byakuya, Kira, Hinamori and Hitsugaya
From soul society's perspective Rukia was a prisoner about to die, nobody really seemed to care about that. He never did anything to Byakuya, and Kira's confirmed to be naturally screwed up so Gin did nothing there. Hinamori and Hitsugaya were way more messed up by Aizen than Gin.
>Pursued a revenge Rangiku never wanted instead of just be by her side for 100 year
>ignoring Rangiku's post mortem of Gin where she was ultimately thankful to him
>ignoring that Gin was aware he could fail and distancing himself allowed her to develope independence and the strength to stand on her own
C'mon son, and even if she didn't ask it was clear something was wrong with Gin's line of changing things 'so Rangiku won't cry anymore'
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>>152388116
Well, to Byakuya he's just being a normal ass really. But it's not about whether people care about Rukia, it's about showing that he does those things with no practical purposes, thus suggesting that he just does it for some sadistic fun.

As for Rangiku? If he never went for revenge in the first place, then he won't need to worry about "he could fail". Sure, Rangiku is ultimately thankful to him, but at that point, her choice was only between accepting or resenting him. Before that, when he's still alive, she was miserable due to his distancing himself even though she's right there, like dangling something she can't have and yet can't discard.

Look at Rangiku's poem:
>To know sorrow is not terrifying.
>What is terrifying is to know you can't go back
>to happiness you could have.

Given the choice, don't you think she'd rather have that happiness and him not taking that snake's path in the first place? Who is he to say she'd never ever develop independence without him being a villain?
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>>152388927
That still doesn't make him Mayuri or Aizen levels of evil, which most people try to treat him like he's beyond them when they bring up the scene with Rukia, or Hiyori.

"when you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."
Gin is smart enough to keep this in mind and that's why he distances himself. Obviously he feels getting the hogkyoku and restoring Rangiku's soul was something that needed to happen, and the only problem with that is Kubo never bothers to fully flesh out these details.
>Look at Rangiku's poem:
>poemfaggotry
anon she says it herself in the novels and 13 blades that she was ultimately thankful because in the end the true Gin was the one that she knew.
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>>152383560
muh parallels
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Quick question about bleach.

Is it worth to force myself through the first episodes.

Watched about the first 4 episodes and it`s quite boring. Does it get better?
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>>152388927
>Who is he to say she'd never ever develop independence without him being a villain?
She's the one who says it anon.
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>>152389445
>Is it worth to force myself through the first episodes
No. If you really want to experience Bleach just read the manga, you can get through the five or so chapters it takes to make an episode in less time than to watch.
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>>152389296
>That still doesn't make him Mayuri or Aizen levels of evil, which most people try to treat him like he's beyond them when they bring up the scene with Rukia, or Hiyori.
But this >>152376804 only asked if Gin did anything wrong. And he did.
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>>152389483
She said that she'd be stuck in the same spot if he had left her AND left her something to remember him by.

She didn't say it's better than him NOT LEAVING in the first place anon.
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Gin sucks.
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>>152390937
I'm not arguing on that anon's behalf. I'm making a point about how people have a tendency to paint Gin to be worse than he really is, and ignore most of what is implied and blatantly stated about him and his relationship with Rangiku.

>>152391008
>She didn't say it's better than him NOT LEAVING in the first place anon
She followed HIM to the Seireitei anyway. They attended the Academy together, and were likely still able to see each other during the period before his betrayal, considering Aizen stated that Gin had affection for her, he wouldn't come to such a conclusion unless the two would still be able to see each other during the 100 years they served the gotei. And remember at the end of the day, the reason Gin did any of that was Aizen's fault.
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>>152299196

>before the rushed trainwreck that is the last 5 chapters

Sure, it has a few problems but seeing it animated should be fun.

>after the last 5 chapters

Heck no, and I'm saying it as a Bleach fan.
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>>152384786
The arc was fine until the last 10 chapters, are you an op or nardofag?
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>>152371250
Yell at me loudly and take my amore.
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Anyone else missing this ride?
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>>152373579
Renji listens to slipknot and plays 40k in his spare time, and he has a lot because he DOESN'T DO HIS JOB
>you had one job Abari!
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>>152374005
That literally doesn't hurt in the slightest.
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>>152397445
Please give me more edgy (You)'s, I enjoy the nostalgia
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>>152397122
She honestly loved you like a saint would, grow up.
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>>152397633
Okay?
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>>152397122
Thursdays are not the same.
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>>152397122
What was the stupidest, most hilarious plot twist in Bleach's run?
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>>152401145
Ichigo being the ultimate hybrid that later amounted to nothing.
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>>152401145
Ichiruki not happening.
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>>152402235
This.
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>>152387522
http://tenshiscave.tumblr.com/post/156047418072/we-do-knot-always-love-you-snippet-summary
Brothers from the wolf clan, students at the academy
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>>152341539
I originally thought it was because of the send of souls and such. But it is even worse than I could possibly have imagined.
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>>152386485
I think he'd just be 'content'.
At the end of the day he doesn't contribute much to the victory. And then he can't speak anymore. His only consolation is perhaps the wolf brothers who's following in his footsteps and can act as translator between him and Iba.
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Which character do you think had the coolest-looking Bankai?

For me it's Ginjo
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>>152408253
This was a bad look.
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>>152406907
>At the end of the day he doesn't contribute much to the victory
He took out a quincy capable of ending the whole war on her own.
>B-but she came back as a zombie
Yeah but Giselle states that Quincy need to be dead to be used by her and that dead zombies are significantly weaker than when they were alive.
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These threads are so dead.
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>>152411559
Just like Kubo's career.
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>>152411559
theres 120 people here yet no ones saying anything
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>>152411895
There were.
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>>152412095
There's still 120 people here. No one wants to say anything for whatever reason. There's really nothing to talk about anyways. Translations for the novel come out slowly, and theres no other topic to talk about and I'd rather not get into shipping for the 100th time.
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>>152412315
That's the course when a work is concluded. Especially one like Bleach where the author is too lazy to answer things.
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>50ish episodes of Shinigami vs Fodder Quincy.

You guys actually want this? It's legitimately worse than Naruto's "war" arc.
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>>152412315
default 4chan extension records current users browsing threads and not just posters?
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>>152413603
It legitimately is not.
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The novel sold 41,654 copies so far. Is that good or bad?
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>>152415249
Good considering it's under stocked in many places.
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>>152415249
Bleach: Spirits Are Forever With You vol.1; 93,319
Bleach: Spirits Are Forever With You vol.2; 63,292
Bleach: The Death Save The Strawberry; 55,505

It's still increasing but I don't think the final sales will exceed DSTS.
Hisagi novel may sell better because Narita has his own fanbase.
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>>152415532
It needs 13,851 copies to surpass DSTS. I don't see it happening, but the sales are good.
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how much would a toshiro novel sell?
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>>152415672
Depends. Is there a drawing of Daiguren Hyourinmaru handsome edition?
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>>152415672
What would a Toshiro novel even be about? He kinda ended in a pretty good place so it might just be pure fluff.

It would probably sell like 500,000.
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>>152415672
>Toshiro novel

Fucking why? His older brother only showed up for like two chapters, and we didn't even get his name, he should get his own novel.
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>>152415628
They're reprinting though so I suppose they expect significant extra sales. What is the typical amount reprinted?
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>>152415877
>His older brother only showed up for like two chapters

Are you being serious right now anon?
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>>152415810
Yes, the novel would include illustrations and the cover would also be a new illustration.
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>>152416100
The meme police are here
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so how many sketches can we expect in the narita novel? how many were in his previous bleach novels?
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>>152415672
I'd buy a ByakuyaxToushirou wedding novel.
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>still no kazui or ichika bios
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>>152416283
I'm too lazy to count, see for yourself
http://m.taringa.net/comunidades/bleach-f/5493542/spoiler-imagenes-de-spirits-are-forever-with-you-1-y-2.html
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>>152416462
That's from 2 novels btw
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>>152416462
21 sketches in total, but that was for two novels. we got 12 this novel, so we'll probably get the same amount in the next then we have the one-shot by Kubo for the film and thats it.

I'm gonna miss his art.
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more Rukia please
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>>152418149
More Rukia is practically guaranteed for the last few moments of Bleach's relevancy.
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>>152418149
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>>152418149
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>>152418228
Rukia and the main cast are finished with this novel. The next one will be about other characters then we have the one-shot and thats it. There's always the chance that Kubo posts a random doodle on twitter, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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