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Is Konosuba the only Isekai done right?

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Is Konosuba the only Isekai done right?
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Are there other Isekai deconstructions like Kono and Re(m):zero?
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>>152162761
If Isekai's primary purpose is wish fulfillment, and KonoSuba is the only example in which I actually want to be like and live like the main character, so yes.
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>>152162924
There's Legend of the shield hero (or something like that title) They fuck him over and everybody hates him until he proves them wrong,
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>>152162761
No. Konosuba is MMO Isekai done right.
Escaflowne and Now and then, here and there are isekai drama done right.
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>>152162761
muv luv alternative
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>>152163054
>They fuck him over and everybody hates him even after he proves them wrong
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>>152162924
what do you mean by isekai deconstruction?
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>>152162924
>rezero
>deconstruction
When will this meme end.
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>>152162761
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>>152163900
Got frustrating how many times Saito would get cockblocked, shit was a formula.
>louise gets mad over nothing
>finally get through to her
>about to kiss/grope/whatever
>ends up getting cockblocked by whatever
>YOU STUPID DOG DIE I HATE YOU!
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>>152163900
>ZnT
>"done right"

Bwahaha
It was always hot garbage anon
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>>152164002
Second and fourth season were alright.
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>>152163599
How is muv luv isekai?
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>>152162924

Ixion Saga DT
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>>152164002
Replace Louise with literally anyone and it would have been
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>>152162924
Re Zero is a tryhard parody which fails to get its point across.

Kono Suba is the only true parody here.
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>>152163054
>They fuck him over and everybody hates him until he proves them wrong

How is that deconstruction?
That's basically the premise of half of the isekais I've read.

>muh I'm a loser and everyone hates me
>I'll prove them all wrong in my next life!
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>>152162924
Neither of those are deconstructions. The anime that comes closest to isekai deconstruction is grimgar.
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>>152164606
>Criticaling a boss they can't beat DEM

Its literally SAO perpetually stuck in Viridian Forest and "muh ded party member" garbage.
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It even has Isekai in the name.
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>>152164048
Read the fucking VNs
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Bitch please
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>>152162761
>isekai
>done right
Choose at most one.
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>>152163309
It always bothered me how in Escaflowne, she rarely thought about her mother. If I was transported to another world I would always think of how sad my parents would be. She even thought of Amano more times.
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>>152163877
When people realize that Konosuba was literally playing everything straight faced and not some holy series that made fun of the tropes
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>>152162761
Ixion Saga DT
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>>152162761
Overlord is pretty good too
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>>152162924
When will the deconstruction meme be deconstructed?
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>>152165776
This, Konosuba reminded me a lot of Ixion Saga DT in how neither of them take themselves seriously. I think that's the best approach to the Isekai idea.
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>>152162761
Leave isekai to Sakamoto666 and his 6000 slimes.
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>>152165282
Fucking NTR
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>>152162761
Why is everyone suddenly using the term "isekai" left-and-right? It's not as if the concept itself is new, and it was always popular.
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Is there any cute Isekai?
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>>152166454
Dog days.
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I liked No Game No Life
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>>152166794
>No Game No Life
Visuals 7/10
Music 8/10
Story 1/10
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>>152162924
when will be anime finally deconstructed
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You niggers need to watch more 90s anime if you care about Isekai so much.
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>>152166824
You forgot
Memes 10/10
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>>152166124
anime was almost over until some idiot started reconstructing it again
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>>152167381
What will happen when we reconstruct anime too much?
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>>152164534
Everyone hates him in the next life as well though.
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>>152167422
There will be a resurgence of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShzmzcJM7QI
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Japs are shit at western fantasy.
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>>152164850
Its fucking trash.
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>>152166824
>>152167055
Best thing to come out of the show was probably the dumb rock paper scissors thread. In the end you couldn't tell if people were genuinely that retarded or trolling by the end of it with how people were arguing with each other.
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>>152167804
Do you have a screenshot or link?
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>>152166824
>Story 1/10
But it wasn't about the story. It was literally about all the bullshit everyone pulled out of their ass.
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>>152166124
Nobody takes Derrida's work seriously anymore. He's the Freud of the 21st century. His entire body of published writing is just a useful teaching aide for introducing more contemporary trends in academics, but is worthless otherwise.
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>>152167894
The Desuarchive doesn't have posts from 2014 (missing a chunk from between 2012 -2015) so can't really give you a link.
All I can say was /a/ was sperging out after the ep and then "how did he play rock" was repeatedly posted as a troll thread for a short time.
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>>152162761

No, because it's not that good to begin with.
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>>152168315
Archived.moe should have it, but they are offline right now. Oh well
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>>152168315
I remember someone making a little graph explaining the concept.

But, also, don't forget about the episode where Shiro won in the game of Chess with jibril even though her King was in check.
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Is there an anime where the mc actually puts his dick in one of the females he easily could instead of being such a faggot during every opportunity?
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>>152168929
You mean isekai shit or in general?
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>>152167513
So are westerners - it's a shitty genre.
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>>152168990
isekai shit mainly but in general too.
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>>152168929
>>152169017
Off the top of my head for Isekai the closest you will probably get is Hagure Yuusha no Aesthetica and even then there is no dicking (in the anime, but apparently happens later in the LN), just plenty of sexual harassment. He will just stand on the ceiling while they are changing/showering or feel them up or make them piss themselves at one point. Even then it is hardly exactly an Isekai and more what happens when one is over.
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Best girl from best isekai anime.
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>>152169986
Who?
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D O G
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S
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>>152172931
Didn't one of the directors actually help make an episode of South park.


Also, i wanna sniff her butt.
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>>152168929
No anime but there's plenty of manga like this.
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>>152162761

fuck no.
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I love them.
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>>152165282
She was 15 right? She probably was a huge homone time bomb. But you have a valid point there, that always made me think she didn't have a good relationship with her mother. Then again, as much as I love the series, she isn't exactly the most likeable MC either.
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>>152163054
No, he gets memed on just because he's the shield hero and it stays that way until he kills the fuck out of the head of the religion that demonized him.
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>successful season 1
>less budget for season 2
>crappy animation style doesn't matter now

kek here comes the deluded DEEN apologists
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>>152175882
What do you mean less budget?
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No that would be Mondaiji-tachi
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>>152175936
from the looks of ep.1, season 2 looks like it's made with less budget
or am i wrong? is DEEN really that shit?
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>>152175977
Well have to wait to compare and find out i guess.
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>>152176091
you dont even need to compare
from ep.1 of s1 and s2, you can already handpick a lot of bad quality animations from s2's episode 1
im not going to ride the "goofy makes it funnier" bullshit, it's just an excuse to justify the lack of quality in animation
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Reverse isekai is best isekai.
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>>152174877
I love how they referenced the creepy hand motions that kazuma made with the turban guy looking on in horror. That was pretty hilarious.
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>>152176386
yeah whatever lol
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>>152162761
So why didn't blond titty knight fuck him? Wasn't that bath scene right up her fetish route?
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Still reading the Overlord LN
But the Isekai stuff is basically just to give him so humanity so the MC doesn't just roflstomp everything in his way.
Even whit that holding him down he still has a hard time limiting casualties because of subordinates and the whole taking over the world stick they set up for him.
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>>152162761
People forgot that No Game No Life is considered an Isekai too.
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>>152176386
I watched episode 1 of last season just to compare. No, you are either forgetting how season 1 had a lot of off-model and QUALITY moments, or, you didn't even watch the first season at all.
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>>152165305
>not some holy series that made fun of the tropes
It's not even special. Shitload of anime have "you're such a tsundere" tier commentary but overall plays out straight. It's not meant to make people feel above the shit they're eating.
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>>152163900
Only the nostalgiafgs thinks this is good.

>>152164850
Great characters, bad narration and awful story.

>>152174706
I really enjoyed read this self-insert story, but, this is not a good Isekai.

>>152174739
>>152165172
This is a Isekai done right.

>>152177037
Agreed, pic related.
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>>152168486

yuki.la is online
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>>152162924
>deconstructions
Is this possibly the worst buzzword? It means fucking nothing.
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>no mention of Log Horizon
Disappointed.
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>>152169986
Fuck off
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>>152178571
wat
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>>152162924
Don't mention reddit:zero in the same breath, that's the definition of isekai trash.
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OBA NOBUNA

THOSE WHO HUNT ELVES is my second favorite
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>>152167513
>all i know about Japanese fantasy works is isekai shit
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>>152179398
Contrarian hipster fuck.
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>>152164850

wasn't the only good thing about it the dancing gif girl?
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Grimgar's probably the best isekai in recent memory
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>>152167706
Why? The show was pretty good, it's obvious they skipped some stuff though.
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>>152180987
>Glacial pacing
>Garbage animation sans a couple scenes
>Forced drama
>Insert song montages

It's fucking shit.
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>>152174877
theyre surprisingly consistent with the background characters. blonde guy that starts the chant was the one who showed kazuma the sexnasium right?
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>>152162761
Nah
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>>152181756
>>152163599
this tbqh famalam
Can't think of any other isekai that are nearly as gripping, and construct such a detailed new world, and have the 'isekai' actually factor into the story in a meaningful way
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>>152162761
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>>152168929
Not anime but in these recent isekai WNs/LNs that happens frequently, here>152174706 for example he's in a polygamous relationship so basically marries all 3 of the heroines and has kids/grandkids. The later volumes focus on the main story and him protecting his family.

Though after the main story was over the author also made a side story which features his son as the MC.
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>>152162761
Re zero.
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>>152162761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIO6UiSW5Kk
Those who hunt elves
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the best Isekai are naturally those written by actual writers and not an author of a fucking webnovel (keyword "web") like Escaflowne, Now and Then Here and There, and 12 Kingdoms

but if you are asking for passable ones that have came from a webnovel there is this series
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>>152183247
have they ever shot their tank?

actually dropped it because of the lack of tank action.

that and the fact that nobody was bothered by seeing a metallic beast just chilling around
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>>152183421
Are tanks weak to magic?
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>>152167804
> not including chess and Go board game
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>>152162761
KonoSuba is more mockery of shit isekai than isekai "done right".

And at the risk of sounding like a nostalgiafag, the average isekai back in the day was a lot better than the average isekai these days. Not to say there wasn't some shit too, because there was, but they were on average better quality writing, less formulaic, less shallow wish fulfillment.
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>>152169986
>girl
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>>152183421
>have they ever shot their tank?
As in, used the tank to fire shells at things? Yes.

>that and the fact that nobody was bothered by seeing a metallic beast just chilling around
It's a fantasy world with all sorts of weird stuff around; a tank is hardly the strangest thing the average person there will see. Besides, other "our world" things that have no business being there keep popping up that no-one finds odd until it's specifically pointed out to them.
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I didn't see anyone post this yet.
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>>152184664
Op was asking for good isekai
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ITT: We look for good isekai
it doesn't exist
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>>152185322
Cross Ange first half.
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>>152162761
>transported to other world
>instantly gets a harem of girls with OP powers
>they remain madly in love with him forever despite being treated like shit

NOPE.

This is what kono suba should have been :

>transported to other world
>goddess immediately dumps him because she is mad
>MC has to survive on his own with no OP powers or girls supporting him
>joins a normal adventuring party
>uses creative uses of his magic to be an asset to the party
>no 10/10 girls keep showing up to join his harem
>any love interest he has behaves like an actual person instead of remaining madly in love with the MC for eternity
>MC actually has to build a relationship like Lawrence in Spice and Wolf

There literally is no translated isekai anime/manga like this. Sad. Almost all of them with the exception of two are simply :

>transported/reincarnated into other world
>has OP powers or gets them shortly
>starts with a harem/love interest or gets them shortly
>love interests inevitably behave like brain dead zombies who have no problems with the MC ignoring them
>local heroes/soldiers/whatever are all incompetent and the MC is the only one who is smart and can get things done

Yawn.
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>>152184664
>transported to other world with OP powers and a harem
>every fight he and his harem is in inevitably becomes "lol i troll u" because the natives are too weak to do anything
>every obstacle can be easily solved via OP powers (two countries at war? use OP powers to defeat one of them, problem solved!)
>90% of the story is basically the author's self insert travelling around a fantasy world and flexing his muscles to impress girls and make himself feel good by doing the occasional good deed
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>>152185462
>goddess immediately dumps him

Good job, now Aqua is stuck in fantasy Straya with no hope of returning to Heaven. She can only go back once Kazuma completes his mission.
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>>152185462
>how to make it shit
Log horizon is dull stop asking for boring things like this no one wants to watch it we had Grimgar last year.
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Don't get why people like this series so much

Maid Dragon is much funnier.

This and Re Zero are about the same to me
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>>152185914
No, Kazuma just wished to take her, he didnt wish for her to accompany her till he defeated the demon king. His wish was already fulfilled.

>>152186018
>log horizon is dull
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>>152186072
Kazuma's wish is fulfilled, but Aqua is stuck in that world and can't return to Heaven until Kazuma defeats the demon king.
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>>152162761
>literally SAO but with one joke
Not even close.
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>>152168929
Yeah, Konosuba
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>>152181908
You should check out Twelve Kingdoms
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>>152186072
His specific wording didn't include "until I defeat the demon king", but to begin with the offer was to take one thing with him to help him defeat the demon king. Therefore, when he picks Aqua, she's stuck with him until he defeats the demon king.
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>>152179469
>THOSE WHO HUNT ELVES
S2 was trash, I wish I knew why it dropped so sharply in quality.
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>>152181642
It's Dust who turns out to be his best male buddy. He will probably also ride Emperor Zell in battle at some point
He was supposed to be in the jailcell with Kazuma where they sort of bond a bit, but I think the anime will leave him out as a background character.
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shieldbro #1
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>>152186441
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>muh Konosuba
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>>152162761
Ixion Saga DT
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>>152186089
i dont remember that being stated anywhere in the manga. that doesn't even make sense.
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>>152187402
It's one of the first things explained in both the novels and the show, anon. She's bound to Australia untill Kazuma kills the demon king.
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cooking isekai are the pinnacle of the genre
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>>152168315
>>152168486
fireden / foolz.fireden
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First season best season.
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>>152187529
This anon knows
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>>152187529
its cool, but i dont like how there is no backstory at all
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>>152187663
what kind of backstory would you even want?
>a truck crashes into the side of their restaurant opening a portal into another world

besides, they're chefs, they don't need motivation to cook, other than the joy of making delicious food.
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>>152165305
Personally I see Konosuba as just another in a long line of lighthearted fantasy comedies. It may have an isekai premise but it has more in common with Slayers, Rune Soldier, stuff like that than most "serious" isekai.

Goofy fantasy has always been my favorite anime genre so naturally I enjoy Konosuba too.

>>152187788
Even if you weren't the most motivated chef ever, I'd think that the opportunity to introduce your cuisine to a whole new world would make anybody pretty excited.

The thing that gets me is how totally unfazed by everything the staff are. It'd be interesting if it turns out that the izakaya moves from world to world and that's why they're so used to it.
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>>152185462
>they remain madly in love with him forever despite being treated like shit
Aqua doesn't love him, but needs him because of her debts, Darkness is fine with anyone fulfilling her fetish, Megumin just wants friends. None of them wants to be a couple with him.
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>>152162761
Watch Now and Then, Here and There and stop being a little faggot.
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>12 kingdom
>No World Conquer
>End after fought weak corrupt official
Disappointment
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>>152164850
Should have been an episodic show about Devil Kuroko giving the heroes stupid quests.
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>>152188357
>MC never loses a fight and all the bad things in his world bounce off him
>stick > gun
>He Never learns anything and just daijobu's through the whole thing
>The anime starts off really well but all of it's mature themes are ignored and the show focuses on how war and revenge is bad.
>the only evil character is Hamdo despite everyone else perpetuating the cycle and once he dies everything is right with the world.

Re:Zero did the whole edge thing better.
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>>152188624
>Re:Zero doing anything better
nice one anon
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>>152167513
>Dragon Quest and Korean MMO memes
>"""western""" fantasy
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