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KLK vs. TTGL

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>>152046669
TTGL is miles better.
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>>152046669
They are literally the same show, so it is really hard to choose. KLK has more likeable cast, but TTGL is more grand and epic.
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>>152046785
Stop shilling yourself, D. Brony.
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>>152046669
KLK is shit and has no redeeming qualities other than maybe two characters in it.

TTGL is shit but it is at least a rip off of Getter Robo which is great so that makes it slightly more tolerable.
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I liked KLK more overall but the strongest episodes of TTGL are better. Ryuko is still, overall, best girl though.
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>>152046786
>They are literally the same show

What?
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>>152046829
Don't even know this guy, just came across this vid once and thought it made a good point
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12070448
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>>152046888
KLK feels like they took Gurren Lagann, and gave it a new paintjob, while not changing anything about it at all.
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>>152046669
TTGL is better.
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KLK is more interesting to analyze but pulls its punches for the sake of humor
TTGL is more fun to sit back and enjoy but hits roadblocks when it tries to explain things
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>>152046669
They are nothing alike and don't aim for the same thing. You can't compare them.
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Both are shit. NEXT!
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>>152047085
>They are nothing alike
>>152046988
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Gurren Lagann is a modern classic, a landmark in its genre, and a show that succeeds with flying colours on formal, technical and narrative grounds. Kill la Kill was a mess.
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>>152046988
You clearly didn't understand anything about Gurren Lagann.
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>>152046669
One is hot garbage, the other one is good, what's there to discuss?
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TTGL made me feel shit. I almost cried a couple times.

KLK was fun but didn't strike the same chords. I don't know, the message felt different too, I'm not even really sure what it was trying to convey.
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>>152046669
Little witch academia of course.
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>>152047229
That is not the point, im talking about these shows being almost identical.
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>>152046988
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LWA
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>>152046669
TTGL just has better animation

also I liked Simon better than Ryuko and LordGenome better than Ragyu.
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>>152047436
Inferno Coppu
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>>152047564
>not Ninja Slayer
Recite your death haiku.
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>>152047700
Ninja slayer didn't have an official crossover with LWA.
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>>152047324
>>152047229
>>152047085
>A hot headed, constantly evolving protagonist and some companions take on a tyrannical villain and the villains four mooks.
>The mc has lost someone important, and the crew helped by someone who later joins them.
>The mc goes through all of the four mooks.
>Then the twist comes, the first villain is not actually a villan, and there is somebody even worse out there.
>Enter the real main villain, who has godlike powers, and an army of faceless mooks.
>Surviving heroes and villains all team up to defeat the main villain.
>The hero has a hard time and mopes around for a bit.
>At first they dont stand a chance against the main villain.
>But then the heroes go more and more over the top, until they beat the main villain.

Which show did i just describe?
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While TTGL had better budget KLK was more enjoyable for me, mostly because of its strong cast (TTGL has many forgettable characters)
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>>152046669
KLK was above average at best. TTGL was great
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I enjoyed more the first one I saw. The second one rose to expectations but it was nothing new like it was the first one. Because just that, it was not the first, so therefore it was nothing new

I am not going to tell you which one I saw first tho
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I greatly preferred KLK by the end of it in comparison, something that I thought would never happen.
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>>152047813
>if i give vague general descriptions about the plot of two shows then they'll seem exactly alike
wow, who knew
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>>152048023
>Two shows made by the same people, featuring extremely similar plots.
Yeah, who new.
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>>152048143
>the same people can't make different products
if you grasp hard enough you just might be able to grab those straws
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>>152048216
anon you do know that after Naka wrote the initial script they came together and decided to gender flip the main characters just to differentiate the show from GL because they felt it would be too close if they didn't, right? This was in multiple interviews.
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They both go to shit in the second half but TTGL had Kittan's sacrifice so it edges out towards TTGL, in my opinion.
Not to mention TTGL didn't look like shit in the second half, but KLK had much superior main characters.

PSG is better than both though. Nakashima is a hack.
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TTGL goes along with Gamma Ray's Somewhere Out in Space. KLK doesn't.
I'll go with TTGL.
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>>152046669
I've emptied my balls enough times to KLK that I could probably fill two whole buckets
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>>152048887
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>>152046669
TTGL. KLK was dogshit.
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KLK. TTGL was dogshit.
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KLK felt less childish than TTGL to me
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>>152051337
KLK was late night, TTGL aired in a saturday morning timeslot.
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I'll take HunterxHunter and Fafner instead. I don't watch trash made by literal human shit that worked at Gainax or for Trigger.

Also please don't reply if you're just going to say I'm doing this for (you)'s. That just shows you only started browsing in the past 2 years and replying to Extra Super Deluxe Newfags is beneath me
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>>152047813
Is that Harry Potter?
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>>152051522
It's The Hero's Journey with a twist. Like if The Rebellion and the Empire from Star Wars teamed up to fight Galactus or something.
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>>152047813
Gurren Lagann. Satsuki was never evil it was always implied there was a bigger bad and Satsuki was the gate keeper. Ryuko also never moped per se, its more that "she lost her way".
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>(For me) Story
TTGL > KlK
>Characters
Hard to say. I prefer my favorite KlK characters over my favorite TTGL characters but overall I do prefer the cast and dynamics of TTGL over those of KlK
>Colors
KlK > TTGL
>Setting
TTGL >> KlK
>Animation
TTGL >>> KlK
>Music
KlK = TTGL
>Emotion
TTGL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KlK

So overall TTGL wins. The action just played a big role in both of them as well but the lack of actual movement destroyed that for KlK. Opinions.
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>>152046669
TTGL, no contest
>real backgrounds that aren't 200% cheap smoke
>real animation (for the most part) as opposed to pic related
>better and more sensible setting & concept
>better plot
>better progression and character development
>better characters in general

honestly, name 1 (ONE) thing that klk does better.

there's nothing. i'm serious.
TTGL is an above average show while KLK is bottom of the barrel garbage. i'm serious about this too.
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>>152052402
None of the points you made (except the one about the animation, and even that it's arguable) are true, so I don't really have to name everything more.
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>>152052402
KLK had a better MC and rivalry.
The second half of TTGL wouldn't be so bad if Simon wasn't boring as shit.
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>>152046669
KLK has an infinitely better supporting cast, so that wins.

But please stop comparing them. They're very different shows and this does absolutely nothing but tear them both down.
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>>152052521
that gif even shows the cheap filler smoke and the animation so you're already wrong. and that was the first ep iirc
here, have another one

also ttgl's concept is obviously superior.
>piercing the heavens starting from underground all the way to the galaxy
vs
>some obscene shit about clothes
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>>152052703
>Using the episode 4 made to look cheap as a joke to mirror TTGL's episode 4 intentionally made cheap to save budget as a metric for quality.
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>implying KLK's animation is bad
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>>152052566
this
Simon was boring and Rossiu was a stupid faggot who shouldve stayed underground.
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>>152052703
You seem to possess /v/-tier insight on the subject, please stop.
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>>152052737
>TTGL's episode 4 intentionally made cheap to save budget
No, that's just Kobayashi's style, check Beck or his episode of Kemonozume, they look the same.
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Kill la Kill was a clusterfuck, the plot went off the rails in a bad way and the conclusion was really underwhelming even for this kind of shitshow.

The characters were all one note and underwritten and largely unlikable.

Some of the designs were actually really appealing, unfortunately the main battle mode of the main character was not one of them.

It was a very derivative piece of work, taking a lot from what they did in TTGL, unfortunately just getting naked doesn't have the same appeal as believing in yourself.

The anime was horrendously animated in general, with the average scene being below acceptable production value for a modern TV anime. The use of CGI was disgusting. Several cuts of sakuga can't save this mess.

It was a complete swing and a miss, But luckily little witch academia looks a lot better.

TTGL isn't perfect, but the simplicity of everything is beautiful in a way, and the production values are gorgeous
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>>152046669
I loved that KLK was caught for plagiarism over christmas and they basically had to scramble to redo the second half which turned into complete and irredeemable shit
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>>152052946
>Kill la Kill was a clusterfuck, the plot went off the rails in a bad way and the conclusion was really underwhelming even for this kind of shitshow.
The plot was perfectly fine and coherent.
>The characters were all one note and underwritten and largely unlikable.
Blatantly false.
>Some of the designs were actually really appealing, unfortunately the main battle mode of the main character was not one of them.
That's up to you I guess.
>It was a very derivative piece of work, taking a lot from what they did in TTGL, unfortunately just getting naked doesn't have the same appeal as believing in yourself.
There is literally no anime inexistence more derivative than TTGL (not that's a bad thing, despite what you seem to believe) and describing the struggles in KLK as just "getting naked" shows you've missed the point.
>The anime was horrendously animated in general, with the average scene being below acceptable production value for a modern TV anime. The use of CGI was disgusting. Several cuts of sakuga can't save this mess.
Again false. It just had a handful of poorly animated episodes.
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>>152052986
Nice fanfiction you got there.
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Klk. The later part of the anti spiral arc when they're fuvking around in the galaxy feel long and dragged out and not very enjoyable. Favourite part of GL was probably Rossiu takes over the city and chucks Simon in prison. Good fucking riddance. And he came back of course.The first few eps of TTGL was also pretty forgettable. The opening ep of klk I will never forget and ep3 too. I preference the direction and art style of kill more. I actually enjoyed the 2d cutouts.
I enjoyed the themes presented in klk more, not to say that TTGL's themes were bad.
Mako is best girl
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>>152052737
but >>152052402 wasn't episode 4. this kind of shit was everywhere.

>>152052776
it's the exact opposite. i can draw and animate.
it's /a/ that is blinded by the novelty of it (or whatever the fuck they're blinded with. i have no fucking clue how you can miss this).

this entire show is nothing short of shameless.
>powerpoint sliding everywhere
>filler smoke everywhere
there was even one time where they literally stretched an image across the screen for several seconds. i couldn't believe my eyes. (early episode where the teacher sits on a sofa with ryuuko in a dark room with an open window iirc). i wish there was a webm of that somewhere.
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>>152046669
God i just fucking love KLK OVA, felt so fucking satisfying, every single second
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Anyone who thinks KLK is better than TTGL needs to leave this board.
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>>152053155
>Mako is best girl
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>>152053147
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-01-06/mangaka-suggests-kill-la-kill-may-be-plagiarized

This was published the sixth, however the mangaka says that he reached out to them before hand.

It's actually true
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>>152053116
You are an apologist if you defend KlKs animation. I have nothing to say to you.
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>>152053157
>>piercing the heavens starting from underground all the way to the galaxy
>vs
>>some obscene shit about clothes
Yep, /v/.
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>>152053250
Not Him but I think that shitty animation is good because it's funny
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>>152053244
That's old news. Nothing says the second half was rewritten, idiot.
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>>152053320
Other than tonally and thematically it was almost entirely different than the first half with no real direction and had to be delayed 1 week from returning from which it was completely unstructured episodic content.

They rushed that shit out the door
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>>152053308
Well sure if you want to watch it ironically I guess.

But none of the actual jokes are funny and because the characters were literal cardboard cut outs I had absolutely no emotional investment in the story at all.
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>>152053234
Have fun with your waifu's horrible voice
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>>152053364
>tonally and thematically it was almost entirely different than the first half
Absolutely not.
And in case you didn't notice, schedule was tight since the get go.
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I think I missed the development in KlK, in comparison to TTGL which basically showed Simon's life and growth from when he was a child till an old man.

Aside from that I could just never relate to this mother vs daughter and sister plot. This might be a personal thing, but I just couldn't feel anything with that. It's not a comparison to saving the whole universe from some kind of anti existence and saving the corrupted loved one. Not to mention that the action was better and you knew that people could actually die which made shit far more exciting. KlK always destroyed any kind of drama or tension with sudden slap stick.
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>>152053376
>But none of the actual jokes are funny
subjective
>and because the characters were literal cardboard cut outs I had absolutely no emotional investment in the story at all
waaah waaahh if something isn't perfectly animated i can't feel shit for it
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>>152053269
that's just my sarcastic phrasing.
but it should be obvious that klk's concept can't stand on the same level as ttgl's.

ttgl cad a coherent idea that was executed from beginning to the end. klk's was random in comparison.
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>>152053400
Dubs are great.
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People who think TTGL is better than KLK deserve 3 generation punishment.
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>>152053418
It's nota case that in Japan KLK was more popular with girls.
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>>152053400
But it's cute
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>>152053432
Every opinion is subjective, but I know I'm right and you have no arguments
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>>152053485
>arguments
nice meme stefan >>>/pol/
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>>152053452
This
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>>152053250
That's fine, I didn't have any doubts you'd be unwilling to discuss with opinions like those..
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>>152053403
It was entirely different. First half was discovery second half was about nothing until around the end where it turned into moving on and being compassionate, but that was only right around the end. Everything up to that point was just Ryoko is clueless and shit happens.
>And in case you didn't notice, schedule was tight since the get go.

>Get called out plagerizing
>Push episode back a week
>New content is shit and rush
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>>152053452
>but it should be obvious that klk's concept can't stand on the same level as ttgl's.
TTGL's concept is far more basic and uninteresting than KLK's.
>ttgl cad a coherent idea that was executed from beginning to the end. klk's was random in comparison.
They were both coherent from beginning to end.
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>>152052402
>>better characters in general
I can't remember side characters names even though I watched the movies the series, and the damn OVAs. With KLK I remember all of them.
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TTGL was more memorable for its ending and characters than KLK.

Nia dying > Senketsu dying, in terms of emotional impact, since its easier to feel bad about a human dying rather than a piece of clothing dying. Kamina was also a lot more memorable than any of the characters from KLK.
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>>152053432
>isn't perfectly animated i can't feel shit for it
you don't understand. it's at the level where you can barely call it animation. you think sliding a single drawing across the screen is animation? or resizing it?
no, normally that's something you do as preparation for actual animation.

even pic related is more of an animation that those shots i posted.

>>152053629
that's because it was more recent
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TTGL had the better fights and cooler finishing moves.
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>>152053199
I really wonder how many fans that prefer KlK over TTGL are women.
I actually know one grill who prefers TTGL over KlK but I still think they're minorty. Tumblr was all over KlK for more than a year and most of them found TTGL boring or shitty or never watched it because they're newfags.
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TTGL is better in just about every way. I'd only give KLK the upper hand in animation because it came almost a decade afterwards.
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I prefer TTGL simply because the villains in KLK feel almost too competent. It feels like Ryukko doesnt earn a single victory, small or large until the final episode and it bugs the hell out of me.
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>>152053576
The tone was the same since beginning to end. Half serious, half comedic. If you want to lookat a series with staggering tone changes, look at TTGL.
And it was the same thematically. A journey of self dicovery and a struggle of individuality against conformity.
>Get called out plagerizing
>Push episode back a week
>New content is shit and rush
Why do you insist with this baseless speculation? They were cutting corners since episode 1.
Do you think that if Ishikawa was still alive to call out the ripoff of Getter Robo they would have rewritten the second half of TTGL?
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>>152053658
No, it's because TTGL's characters outside of the main castwere bland and forgettable.
Did they expect the audience to feel something from those noname background characters dying at the end?
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>>152053619
>They were both coherent from beginning to end.

>ryuuko looking for her father and some scissors in this random school setting
vs
>people breaking free from underground, piercing the heavens
not the same level. not even close
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>>152053791
>A journey of self dicovery and a struggle of individuality against conformity.
That was the first half.

Second half she learns she has a mother, Satsuki gets molested by her mother but doesn't change at all. gets enslaved by her mother gets saved by her friends. She also embrasses her fathers killer but that's never brought up again. Giant fucking life fiber death ball symbollic of what now, period? but that was the first half...
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>>152053157
You can't draw or animate.

If you were an animator you'd appreciate what their tried to achieve (FUCKING COMEDY) with many of the "poorly" animated sequences. I think they were brilliant for the most part.

And before someone attacks me for not having a clue, just look at that type of rhythm Mako hallelujah scenes have compared to the rest of the show, or how Nui acts as a cardboard and flips over ignoring any kind of logic, being the show's jester. It's very unique (and fun as hell to watch if you ask me) character animation

I'm not defending action lines and cutting corners in battles scences that should've had more impact, however. Probably a budget issue for the most part, but I think they did very well with what they had.
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>>152051516
>I'll take HunterxHunter
And I'll take a finished series
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>>152046669
>KLK
Not even once after the hype died
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>>152053896
>Did they expect the audience to feel something from those noname background characters dying at the end?
This holy fuck
Kittan had his moment but I can't even remember those other fuckers

>caring for those button clickers
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>>152053654
Honestly I think the only people bitching about Senketsu's death were the Ryuketsu fags. Holy shit I veen totally forgot about the shipping wars till now what have I done.
Anyway I think it was nice having actual canon pairings in an anime for once, it's a part that I liked about TTGL.
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>>152053928
>Second half she learns she has a mother
Exactly, she learns about herself.
>Satsuki gets molested by her mother but doesn't change at all
That has been her life since she was 5. And she changes after being freed and making up with Ryuko, there was a pretty long scene about that.
>gets enslaved by her mother gets saved by her friends
Finding herself again, like after going berserk in the first half.
>She also embrasses her fathers killer but that's never brought up again.
? She hasn't cared about revenge since episode 18,she overcame that.
>Giant fucking life fiber death ball symbollic of what now, period? but that was the first half...
Seems like you completely missed the basic symbologies of the series.
We already established that it's about individuality versus conformity (like EVERY Imaishi anime), it shouldn't be too hard to figure it out.
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>>152053663
move*
There was only one, fucking Imaishi
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TTGL's ending was bittersweet

KLK's ending was disappointing
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>>152053932
>I think they were brilliant for the most part.
you thought they were brilliant because you don't understand.
you don't understand how much effort they saved by doing things this way.
when i see those scenes, that's all i can see: trigger being cheap as fuck, and trying to pass it as intentional.

basically they realized that people received inferno cop well. and tried to push things further to see how much they could get away with.

>If you were an animator you'd appreciate what their tried to achieve
that's like telling a cook to appreciate uncooked food.
it's especially bad that people praise trigger for basically not animating what normally would be animated.

and don't get me wrong, i'm not for overanimating or anything, just the bare minimum.
ask yourself this question: would you want any other show to be "animated" like klk is?
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i liked it better when it was called getter robo
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>>152054230
i liked it better when it was called cutie honey
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>>152054206
yea
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>>152054230
I liked it better when I was called the epic of Gilgamesh
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>>152054140
>Exactly, she learns about herself.
A blatant point is not introspection or coming to terms with maturity. It is not self discovery

>she changes after being freed and making up with Ryuko
No she was looking to turn on her mother the entire time and began acting kinder when she found out Ryoko was her little sister

>Finding herself again
But she didn't do it her friends beat her and saved her

>symbologies
Like fuck I did I freed the 7th phonon and saved the world

>individuality versus conformity
that was the first half where she was beaten by everybody for not conforming. When you have your own team individuality is out of the question
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>>152054206
If you're really an animator I feel sorry for whoever hired you.
It's clear as day that something like the first scene you posted >>152052402 only works comedically because its limited animation.
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>>152047202
>a modern classic
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>>152048326
And, they decided to remove the mecha.

Imiashi had a "No mecha rule" in the studio.
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>>152054388
>limited animation
you have no clue what you're talking about. that's not what limited animation is or is about.
and i'm not an animator. but i can animate and understand the process to an extent.
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>>152051516
Nice bait.
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>>152052585
>But please stop comparing them. They're very different shows and this does absolutely nothing but tear them both down.
Right.

RahXephon is entirely different from Evangelion.
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>>152054206
I understand because I also animate.

That's why I'm saying they did the best with the shit they had. Yes it's cutting corners but it was fun and intersting to watch, and yes - IT WAS INTENTIONAL. Sanegayama falling off the stage from Nui touching him in the most cartoonish way had me laughing my ass off. Those zooms and huge as fuck characters growing larger (Satsuki, Gamagoori) in the first episode to show how stronger they are compared to Ryuko or other students (look at this picture for example, Satsuki body just grows and pushes Ryuuko off the frame) is an interesting way to showcase their difference, while still saving budget for more animation-heavy parts. So yeah I still think they handled it brilliantly, plenty of stylistic choices that did exactly what they were supposed to do.

>would you want any other show to be "animated" like klk is?
It really depends on the show, but even LWA, their best animated work so far has those type of cuts and it's a joy to watch. Again, I'm not defending bad animation and action lines, I'm defending stylistic choices that were clearly intentional.
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Did they add in the spiral collapse concept in the last minute?

Right after the timeskip, Possessed Nia mentions that the anti-spirals oppress the spirals because spirals will continue to fight and conquer and destroy the universe. Which is, you know, LITERALLY the plot of Getter Robo. But it seems like they dropped it for the spiral collapse concept instead near the end.
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>>152054330
>A blatant point is not introspection or coming to terms with maturity. It is not self discovery
She made a discovery about herself that shattered her whole world. And it took her 4 episodes accep who she is.
>No she was looking to turn on her mother the entire time and began acting kinder when she found out Ryoko was her little sister
Rewatch episode 21 please, the scene with Satsuki and Ryuko on the boat at sunset.
>But she didn't do it her friends beat her and saved her
They couldn't beat her phisically. They "beat" her by talking sense into her. Again, like when she went berserk.
>that was the first half where she was beaten by everybody for not conforming.
And in the second half when individuality was going to be erased on a planetary scale.
Remember the instrumentality?
>When you have your own team individuality is out of the question
Seemslikeyoudidn'tevenwatchtheshow.
When there are lines like"You wanted o turn everyone into the same cloth,but the world is better with unique, nonsenical individuals like us" there's little room for error if you're paying the slightes tbit of attention.
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>>152054586
>semantics
The gag wouldn't work if animated "properly", that is a fact.
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>>152054142

But it was still pretty fucking cool.

Lagann Impacto was pretty silly but technically a finishing move as well.
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>>152047813
>A hot headed protagonist
>Simon
He isn't really hot headed until half the series.
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>>152054702
Also, the keyboard I'm using is busted, sorry for the lack of spaces.
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>>152054711
Gamagori and Jury only have the color orange in common really.
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>>152054711
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>>152054983
And the justice, don't forget the justice
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>>152055125
I don't remember Jury being especially concerned about justice.
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>>152055106
Trigger are the masters of their craft.
>>152054711
Post the Eva/Ideon one.
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>>152046669
They're similar on the surface so retards make forced comparisons between them all the time, but with an in-depth look they are nothing alike whatsoever, making threads like this rather pointless and misleading.
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>>152054658
it most likely is intentional, i know that.
but that just means the chef didn't do his job, served me uncooked food and tried to tell me it's tasty. that's the kind of arrogance i see when i see those kind of shots in klk.

>even LWA, their best animated work so far has those type of cuts
pretty sure it doesn't. lwa was well animated across the board afaik.

>>152054734
here's a fact: if the viewer doesn't find the "gag" funny, then the scene just looks like total garbage. and that's the case with me.

to close this off (it's late here):
i'm not asking for much. just don't say klk has good animation. even if you find it funny or entertaining, those kind of shots can barely be called animation. and i think that's indisputable.
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>>152055438
Then you didn't notice this scene having sliding characters or some of the same tricks from being used in the OVAs for the same type of effects.

>arrogance
I think you are for not realizing the thought behind those choices but all right.
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>>152055438
>here's a fact: if the viewer doesn't find the "gag" funny
If the etnire purpose of the scene falls flat, there's a problem. But I don't think that's the case here, so that look is perfectly adequate.
>i'm not asking for much. just don't say klk has good animation. even if you find it funny or entertaining, those kind of shots can barely be called animation. and i think that's indisputable.
KLK has good animation in places, poor animation in others, and creative "animation" (if you're triggered by the definition) where it serves a specific effect in the narrative.
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>>152055438
Cut-out animation is animation whether you like it or not.
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>>152046669
Sorry, I have to force myself fapping to Ryuko and Satsuki, while in Yoko feels natural.
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>>152053654
>You'll never have a dumb and innocent wife who loves you unconditionally and you get to show her around the world and constantly amaze her.
WHY DO I GO ON
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>>152055833
Then for some reason you never fuck her in 7 years and after you've done it once or twice with her way past her prime she dies.
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>>152055937
And also you have the cure for her disease, a disease that only she has but you don't use it so you can look like a big man to her asshole grandpa that you killed a week ago.
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>>152047813
>simon
>hotheaded

watch the first half of the show you massive faggot
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>>152055678
it's pretty much a style on its own, and anime doesn't use it much. when they do, they try to be inconspicuous with it (why do you think that is?).
...except for klk. in their case they parade it around as if it's something good.

>>152055618
triggers thoughts/intentions in klk were filled with "arrogance", "lazyness", "indifference", whatever you want to call it.

i don't have that LWA scene with me right now but i'm sure it's not as ballsy as the klk ones. especially the length. both of my examples took around 4 seconds, and that's just the gif.
that's only slightly better than a 4 second still image.
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is this a joke? Are you kidding me? Kill La Kill Vs.Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is a no contest, I mean, jesus christ man, Kill La Kill is good but it's nowhere near the legend that is Gurren Lagann, I mean jesus christ the story barely held together, the only reason it's good is because the characters are memorable and the fight are cool, and even then TTGL has way better fight scenes, has a longer and better story that is more held together and has more developed and memorable characters including Kamina the most badass character in anime history.

tl;dr: Gurren Lagann gets my vote
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>>152046669

Gurren Lagann x Infinity

KLK was a fun satire about fanservice, while GL was actually about a genuine moral. Basically GL is more realistic and influential.
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>>152056155
Yeah, but I really like the characters in KLK and while it homages a lot of shit it itself is a pretty weird story about alien clothes, whearas TTGL will always just be the "less good" Gao Gai Gar/Aim For the Top/Getter Robo.
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>>152056233
>influential.
Gurren Lagann was overshadowed by a different show in it's own season.
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>>152056133
>triggers thoughts/intentions in klk were filled with "arrogance", "lazyness", "indifference", whatever you want to call it.
And again you're assuming things like a retard without listening, that's exacly why I said you're not an animator. What, only scenes animated on 1s are good enough to be called animation?

They were specifically trying to mimic old anime style with those impact still-shots.
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>>152056253

>implying Getter Robo/Gao Gai Gar/Aim For The Top is better

I mean Gunbuster's good but come on
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>>152056431
>Implying they're not
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>>152056431
It's better than Gunbuster, GGG, and any animated Getter, but manga Getter is superior.
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Kill La Kill remained decent and consistent in quality throughout, Gurren Lagann was fucking incredible in the first half and absolute garbage in the second.
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>implying TTGL isn't best mech anime
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>>152056399
you feel free to believe them at face value. those are just my interpretations.

limited animation was born to make things more efficient, but also to make things cheaper, to not have to draw as much. it is generally a smart thing to do.
BUT there is a limit to how far you can take things, and you can barely call this "limited animation", or "animation" anyway.

again, only referring to those powerpoint type of shots. the rest is indeed in limited animation (not always the good kind to be honest)

goodnight
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>>152056744
Imagawa's Mazinger was better.
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>>152056912
I believe them because it's c lear those shots were intentional without them saying anything of the sort. It was a choice.

>make things cheaper to not have to draw as much
This is basically every anime in existence, but you're surely aware of it at this point. The way they chose to work around it was unique.

(Plus lets not forget KLK had many beautifully animated scenes as well. Good night).
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>>152057076

no /spoiler
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>>152056744
>TTGL is best mecha
>post a screenshot from the shitty movie
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>>152058343
>screenshot
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>>152052402
The plot isn't interesting, the characters are incredibly unfunny, 1 dimensional, and ruin any modicum of charm they could have possibly had within the first 3 episodes (haha get it Mako's doing that WACKY explanation thing again wasn't it funny the last 23 times?). Nobody really watches it for the plot unless they're absolutely fucking braindead, so all we have left is the animation and "epic" fight scenes.

The gif this guy posted is a good example, but look at this one. This isn't a "comedy" scene where you can make some shitty rationalized excuse that making the show shitty on purpose is funny; this is how half of the fights are animated. Smoke or speed line background, with 2 characters standing still flailing wildly and the same few frames of animation repeated for several seconds to avoid having to animate all that much. Not only does it look lazy; it's also really fucking boring.
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>>152058343
this, gurren lagann gets my vote over kill la kill, more emptional and epic scenes, heart pounding intense story. the only thing kill la kill has beat is more memorable and well rounded characters, not to say ttgl weren't its just klk beat them out
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