Is a proper Shaman King adaptation ever happening?

I'd be happy just with Flowers coming back.

>>151918790
I wonder because its the 20th anniversary next year. I heard something about flowers coming back in some form or another

>>151918110
doubtful, but at least >>151918790 might be true

Hopefully not.

Those endings man, Jesus Christ.

>>151920618
whats wrong with the ending?

Maybe Maruyama left MAPPA and started M2 just so he could finally do it.

anyone read nekogahara yet? how is it?

>>151921752

I'm waiting for the anime.

>>151921752
any link to scans?

>>151923015
I don't think there are any, Mankin trad won't translate anything that gets licensed

>this show will never EVER leave my backlog

>>151923105
just checked batoto. seems like nothing of takei's ever gets ripped, or at least they only get ripped partway

>>151923189
it's on KM

>>151923280
what do you mean by KM? I checked kissmanga but it wasn't up

>>151923129
Consider reading the manga? It looks fantastic and is usually good enough at the other stuff too.

>>151918790
>Tfw will never see Hana using that zero pilot spooky skeleton ghost as his main

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I still liked the flashback arc the best. It was just so melancholy and Matamune was great.
Shame it went downhill so fast after that arc.

Also it got pretty gay near the end.

>>151923951

Takei couldn't hide his lust for shota anymore. At least he could go full out in Ultimo with it so that he his satisfied for years.

>>151923834
>we'll never get more grown up Tamao and Hanagumi

>>151923951
which ending? i kinda like that it went full on power of friendship it really followed yoh's pacifist tendencies to a T

>>151924148
is all of ultimo ripped yet?

>>151918790
Flowers was shit.

>>151923951
it was certainly the high point of the series but the star festival stuff and the last arc were good too

>>151924188
Well the power of friendship didn't really do jack in the end.
It was more Hao's mom bitch slapping him that made him decide not to kill everyone.

read this when I was 8 after seeing the show on 4kids and fell in love

reread it last year and forgot how like diverse this shit is and how deep it goes into how the religious n cultural stuff forms itself in the series

>>151924239

No idea.

>>151924312
it was working, he even lost the ability to read minds

>>151924312
Well I sure loved the train rolling up with everyone.

And then all that OP bullshit didn't even matter because money rules the world.

>>151924568
I did like that it revealed that not even Hao and the fire spirit could truly kill souls. I was pretty sad that he apparently just super killed that one lady but then she appeared on the train at the end.

My biggest complaint about Shaman King was just how rushed it got near the end. Characters were getting and dropping new power ups left and right. Power levels were rising all over the place. They got all the primal spirits off screen. Hell, it seemed we were gonna get a cool battle with Enma, but then that happened off screen.

And I think when they made death stop mattering, a fair amount of the stakes went away. Sure there was still Hao and his overwhelming strength, but otherwise death even became comical. Hell, during the fight between the main characters, Yoh got his arm broken off and everyone was like "Hey, lets just have a battle to the death! For fun!"
It was wierd

man what does dude do anymore? he had one main success and just kinda fell off the map

>>151924790
He worked on a collaboration manga with Stan Lee.

Srsly

>>151924732
>They got all the primal spirits off screen.
And it got like one page of exposition.

"Oh yeah this difficult thing we've been building up for a bunch of chapters? We did it, here you go."

>>151924790
I dunno, He was working on a sequel but the magazine it was published in died so it died too.

>>151924732
well it was cancelled for like 4 years and it's comeback was just a reprint with 17 extra chapters so it's rushed ending can't be helped

I didn't mind the death has no meaning stuff either, the hell training was cool and then there's Yoh's speech about having a future

>>151924790
he gets work often actually, since shaman king he had an unsuccessful manga that was later rebooted witch ended last year along with >>151924835 and >>151924881 and right now I think he has some kids manga and a manga about a cat samurai running and he may have plans to continue Sk but we'll have to wait till next year to find out about that

>>151924881
>He was working on a sequel but the magazine it was published in died so it died too.
Kind of a shame, I remember hearing the manga was actually doing well on its own.

After the success of Ushio to Tora the pres of MAPPA said they wanted to do more "hot-blooded 90's shonen anime" and mentioned Shaman King by name. It's not guaranteed but i think it's fair to be hopeful.

>>151925163
If they do Shaman King, I hope they iron out the pacing issues it ran into after the revival.

>>151925163
Don't do this to me Anon.

>>151925195
I hope so too man. MAPPA does good work and they seem passionate about the amine they make. If anyone can do it right it's them.

>>151925163
source?

Heres hoping they use this intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLl145FqQg

I mean they wont, but one can dream

>>151924182
Adult Tamao is absolute sex

>>151925404
it's not okay for this to be good

>>151925583
Just accept it, let it happen

>>151924732
>And I think when they made death stop mattering, a fair amount of the stakes went away.
I think it was quite intelligent actually since the show since a long time ago was repeating that battles are meaningless since no matter what happens Hao will win.
And when you get to the end Hao becomes Shaman King and destroys everyone, the only thing they could was convince him to give them a chance to show him that humanity is not as shitty as he thinks.
There were never any stakes, Hao was gonna win and he won, powerlevels ultimately became irrelevant.

>>151925346
I can't remember where i saw it. I think it was a clip in a Mother's Basement video. It was a while ago sorry.

>>151925224
Believe me I'm a huge Shaman King fan. I wouldn't lie about this.

I always hated that all the nudity that happened near the end was censored with just random bullshit. There was one time that there was just a star over Hao's crotch that wasn't actually anything in the story. Just a random star. But Imma fag so...

But the anime ended before it went to shit. What better do you want?

>>151926349
I dunno, I really liked the shaman who used the ghost of a fucking alien, even if she did only appear in two chapters.

Takei does the craziest shit but somehow makes it work together really well.

>>151926942
She was the cutest.

>>151927164
Wasn't she the only one who didn't die?

>>151928223
Well everyone died in the world died

Its just Yoh and Co had the primal spirits when their ghosts met Hao in the afterlife.

>>151928307
I think hao only killed shamans actually, or maybe just people who were nearby since none of the vol1 characters who weren't ghosts appeared at then end

she was also brought up and even got a chapter cover in flowers too

>>151918110
Probably not :(

>>151918790
Flowers can rot in hell

>>151924182
>we'll never get more grown up Tamao
Good riddance to that trash

>>151923951
Osorezan Revoir is ridiculously overrated
It's a good arc but by no means the best

The end was fine
It fit the series perfectly and I got all nostalgic when they showed (almost?) every character in the series in the end(even remembering those dead students from the early chapters)

>>151924312
Wrong and way to miss the point
It was precisely because of Yoh(and Matamune who played a part in instilling those values in him) that things happened the way they did

The mom thing was just Hao clearing being let free of his biggest regret

And if anything Flowers proved that Yoh convinced Hao to not kill the world since Yoh and Anna died and he still didn't nuke the world...basically Hao was just full of hot air and just had to get one over Yoh after a 1000 years

>>151928784
flowers implied the Hao might not've changed completely with the "He gave Hana a special kind of evil" thing

>>151924732
It's more like Takei got lazy
He skipped Byakko Yoh vs Kurobina Hao too
>tfw an anime adaptation might fill in these gaps

>And I think when they made death stop mattering
That is a fucking belief in Shamanism
Enough with this juvenile bullshit

And on their way to fighting the Patch the whole revival thing was clearly showing how limited the technique was due to how much Furyoku it used so I don't get why people keep complaining about this shit

>>151924790
After finishing Shaman King he did too much crystal meth and turned into a fucking retard

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>>151926349
>But the anime ended before it went to shit.
Kill yourself nigger

>>151928905
>He skipped Byakko Yoh vs Kurobina Hao too
he didn't skip it, it just didn't happen, it didn't need to either and well Yoh would've been a match for Hao anyway, the whole point of making Hao so strong was so nobody=y could touch him and the only way to defeat him would be to change his heart

>>151928844
Meh it's a bait and switch

>>151918110
No, it isn't that popular.
>>151918790
I guess it's divided, but the idea with flowers needed more development, as the way it was left the character was maturing. And so far was unlikeable and annoying.
>>151928597
I read it when I was in the dumps and I guess that's part of why I remember it so fondly.

>>151929010
But it was clearly fucking hyped
And plenty of people fought Hao anyways(like Anna...whose fight got mostly skipped REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE)

Like it could have been just a fight with Hao toying around with him and then telling him to "become stronger"...anything would have been better than the shit we got(or in this case didn't)

>>151929131
Anna hijacking those overpowered guardian spirits was fucking awesome.

>>151929112
The chapter I'm fondest of is...I believe chapter 24
When Yoh lets Tokageroh possess him

That shit was touching as hell and no chapter better defines Yoh's selfless character

>>151918110
>Viz
Reminder that the Viz version of Shaman King...not only is incomplete but it's a piece of censored policitally correct dogshit

Read the scanlations or preferrably read the original japanese version if you know moonrunes via the Kanzenban version

>>151929042
>>151929131

>state Hao is unbeatable multiple times
>survive a space lazer
>has a counter for everything
>can read minds
>can change the element of his fucking god
creature
it would've been the most pointless fight ever, and even gone against the way yoh usually does things

the anna fight was skipped because it would've been boring and one sided too

I don't see how a fight can be hype if one character is so far above the other that it
becomes a meaningless waste of time

>>151929282
I just read through the viz and it isn't that bad at all they changed a few names and got rid of chocloves nigger lips, really the worst change was ponchi's balls becoming nothing calm down, it's still the highest quality scan out there for the majority of the series, MT didn't even get that good until KZB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVNR6SaUiOo

>>151929131
I used to think that way. But as some people have stated, Hao is invincible and basically the plan changed to please not kill us and humans are assholes but they our my assholes and what would your mama say.

>>151929428
And Ponchi mostly started covering up later, anyways.

Mostly.

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I still remember The fire spirit eating Shamash, shit was sick.

>>151929316
>and even gone against the way yoh usually does things
Duh
Hao would be the one to provoke it(by attacking either Yoh or someone else)

Like I said
It would be just Hao messing with Yoh for a while

It was just Takei getting lazier and lazier...it didn't show up in only the form of many fights being skipped either. The art got more and more simplistic as time went on

>the anna fight was skipped because it would've been boring and one sided too
Horseshit
Anna was keeping him from doing damage and impressed Hao enough to question her "true form"(to the point where Anna cried out for Yoh to come so she doesn't have to do it)

I think it might have been a subtle indication that Anna is a reincarnation of Hao's mom from Takei

>>151929428
The translation is cringe like most Viz translations

>MT didn't even get that good until KZB
It wasn't just Mankin-Trad
Many scanlation groups did Shaman King...Mankin-Trad came out very late after Manga-Rain dropped it iirc

>>151929449
Again you don't even get what I'm saying
It could have been a fight provoked by Hao just to fuck with Yoh

Like it could have been Hao targeting Manta for shits and giggles and Yoh getting pissed off and then they would have a short fight and Hao would retreat like a badass

>>151929584
but that would't be cool, Yoh would't be able to contend it would nothing more than him getting smacked around with Hao doping a complement every once and awhile

with Anna, Hao admitted he was holding back to not hurt her and by the time Yoh showed up she was almost finished, also Hao's mother's spirit is still around so she can't be his reincarnated mother

>>151929636
and anything not done by those two suck ass the viz translations have issues but they're fine

This is the only series I own every volume of. Man, I remember being so excited to go to the bookstore and grab the newest one. I liked that Hao actually won I just wish it didn't just end like that though

>>151929546
>Chicchee-naa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjFPJQ9tywc

>Lyserg's theme was never released in an official OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C6hkLLSHEk

FUCKING WHY?

>>151929750
>with Anna, Hao admitted he was holding back to not hurt her
Of course he did(he wasn't using Kurobina) but she still reduced him to considering eating the Hanagumi's souls

>and anything not done by those two suck
Not true
Most of them were acceptable...the only bad ones were those shitty Chinese translations for some of the early chapters in Volume 5 or so

I'd take any of them over Viz's bullshit where they simplify everything for toddlers...that shit is annoying because you often lose info from the original version

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Maybe if we had more threads we could meme it back for another anime.

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>When Yoh uses Harusame, he summons the ghost of a polite, loyal and refined samurai.

>When Anna uses Harusame, she summons a wild and violent battle-crazy thug.

>>151930023
you now realize all the x-laws were basically running mecha angel spirits

>>151930010
they were low quality garbage, any time i was re-reading SK i would always dread getting to those chapters

>>151930023
If dubs then kek will make Shaman King 2018 Anime a reality

I liked the covers they put out cuz yoh had different outfits. anybody what that religious outfit on the op cover is?

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>>151930028
>that art-style
Goddammit what happened to Takei
His art-style used to be so charming...now it's sterile gay shite

>>151930023
so is the great spirit and arguably the nature spirit's as well takei has a thing for mechs
>>151930028
is this butsu zone or the anna one shot? either way i'd like to know where you got it

Genuine question: was the anime actually bad? I remember seeing an episode or two of the 4kids dub when I was younger and it seemed ok,

>>151930074
Well at least here's some HQ scans of those in Batoto(same translation though afaik)...god the scan quality of the original versions were horrific

I wonder how people read those back then
Nowadays you get great quality for manga scanlations...back then people got what they could get
I always wonder how that late 90s/early 2000s online manga landscape felt...in particular when it came to Shaman King

>>151930150
>anna one shot
this one

>>151930067
They were literally Supercars that transformed into Giant Robots

Literally Transformers

Storytime when, could be fun?

>>151930138
>anybody what that religious outfit on the op cover is?
Look at the Cross on the Stick

>>151930244
I was ok but not as good as the manga.

>>151930143
a weekly deadline

but his art is still pretty good, he really shines in mech and weapon design

>>151930260
I assume those were dark times, though maybe people were just happy to get what they could get

>>151930290
thanks anon

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>>151930023
>young girl forms of Team Magical Girl (the old hags that Hao's girls trashed)
WHAT

And are those some competitors we didn't see much of to the right of the GS?

>>151930333
But at the same time somehow also literal archangels because that's how much the dude loved his car.

>>151930244
>was the anime actually bad?
It was ok(the jap version at least) but it's crap compared to the manga

It's worth a watch but the manga is far better(also if you plan to read it in the future...read it on Batoto because it has the best scans/most complete version online)

>>151930290
do you know where I can find it?

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Let our powers combined

EARTH!

What was that princess Hao thing about?

>>151930377
>a weekly deadline
Nah that can't be it
Oda is weekly and his style hasn't changed that much

In fact Takei now does everything monthly anyways
Over time his art style became more and more simplistic. I first noticed a decline around chapter 100+ of SK in his art and it only got worse from there but the Kanzenban was when it got really bad and angular looking...part of it is probably the switch to digital

Early SK(the first 25 chapters especially) is imo still the best art he ever crafted in his career

>ultimo rips will never be finished
could someone at least set up a torrent for the viz ones? I know they're digital on comixology and I need to finish what I started in 2009

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>>151930500
FIRE!

>>151930535
It was a dream

>>151930555
not everyone is oda though, and the stress of a weekly deadline can last, just look at togashi now

>>151930067
>>151930150
And Gandara's spirits looked kinda robot-y, in fact a bunch of spirits designs started looking robot-y as the series went on.

Aside from that, Tao's dad was Turn-A Gundam, that super Eliza was Dendrobium, and the sphinx was White Base.

Not really surprising when Yoh's kid turned into Unit 01.

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>>151930566
WIND!

>>151930535
The heroes had to rescue Hao (from himself/from loneliness or whatever).

He wasn't the final boss because he was unbeatable, so instead he was like the sad princess they had to rescue.

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>>151930555
the early art still looks super good
from volume 4 so a little past those first 25 chapters but fuck

>>151930676
I fucking love that page.

How did you know, Anon?

>>151930535
A very fucked up way to conceal the story in the moment it was cut. Saying they were to rescue him symbolically from his hatred, quite convoluted, but for a while i that was it.

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>>151930676
faust from volume 5

HOLY SHIT, so Hao wins in the end?

So what's the point of the manga? Wasn't there a sequel of it?

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>>151930662
WATER!

>>151930743
The point of the manga is seeing irrelevant people fighting irrelevant fights until the only guy that matters fucks around and wins in the end but they manage to convince him to not nuke humanity.

>>151930743
Hao wins and kills everyone.

Yoh got laid before that, sequel follows his kid. However the sequel got locked in a deep-freeze and is on hiatus.

>>151930743
HAO WINS LOL.

No, seriously.

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>>151930749
LIGHTNING!

>>151930493
Here
http://mangapark.me/manga/butsu-zone/s2/v3/c20/1

Couldn't find the original download in M-T's site
M-T are really annoying with their downloads/releases and randomly take stuff down all the time

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>>151930743
>So what's the point of the manga?
To show how great he was.

>>151930493
>>151930816
Also just read Butsu Zone and the rest too, it's short and pretty groovy.

>>151930743
>So what's the point of the manga?
even the most evil hearts can change with love, and some other stuff about the value of preserving spirituality and nature

>>151930816
thank you, and it really is strange that one was taken down since it was never printed in the US

>>151930743
the point of the manga is basically yoh's character philosophy - fighting is pointless and everything will work itself out in the end, so we should all be peaceful

takei is one of the biggest hippies working in manga - dude named yoh which means 'leaf' in reference to pot or something, and there's pot designs all over the manga, and everything is about zen, peace and contact with nature

>>151930867
I was reading it but the scans went to shit

American OP was the best

favorite character/oversoul combo?

I was a big fan of lyserg/chloe and also kanna/ashcroft

>>151930676
I know this chapter
I hate how skinny Yoh looks in this chapter

I preferred the beefier proportions the characters had before this chapter(which is why when the star/comet signals the Shaman Fight is my cut-off mark)

Still good stuff though

In my opinion the art starts deteriorating slightly after Yoh gets to Patch Village when they're looking at the Great Spirit for the first time

>>151930874
>>151930855
>>151930791
>>151930789
>>151930775
>>151930890

Wow, just wow.

I mean, yeah it's original at all but, damn it's a shitty closure.

Even a cliché shit like THE POWER OR FRIENDSHIP killed Hao would've been better

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>>151930855
Hao a cute,CUTE!!!

>>151930953
The power of love reformed Hao

And then the power of money defeated Hao

>>151930743
I guess it will be something like enjoy the life and try to forget the hatred,. It had a lot Buddhist ideas represented in the way You thinks and behave.

haven't read it cuz i don't want my image of the original tainted - is it true that in flowers they summon the other past shaman kings and one of them is jesus

>>151930953
it was satisfying as fuck actually, the series was building up to that kind of end for awhile before that
>>151930925
I can't pick a favorite character but baykko was the best OS

>>151930953
Eh it wasn't that bad.
They say that Hao would win no matter what from pretty early so it wasn't a cop-out, the point of the manga was never about seeing people fight each other, fights become pretty meaningless half-way in, it's about seeing conflicting philosophies face each other and the relationship of the characters with nature and their spiritual power.
In the end they can't win against Hao but they convince him not to let go of all his grudge and hatred, but to at least give humanity a chance to prove itself, it's consistent with most of the themes of the manga, mainly that people that is capable of seeing spirits can't be evil.

>>151930789
and Hana, Yoh's son is literally kept in a freezer cause he "died" and they are trying to keep his body from rotting while he goes through tough trials in the spirit realm.

Pretty ironic.

>Togashi, Takei, Hagiwara and Miura ruin their series because of laziness

Feels bad man

>>151930953
But it was pretty much impossible given the setting.

I guess I could argue that the Hao end wasn't that bad, though. I liked almost every single one of the characters in this manga, even the stereotyped ones were fun to read about. Also, the Kurumada-esche character profile pages are so nice.

>>151931062
jesus was already a shaman king in the original too, mentioned as soon as the concept popped up, although he never appears in flowers, since the antagonist this time around was the god before Hao

>>151930925
Maybe Tao Jun and not-Bruce Lee, but they're all really great. What an amazing cast.

>>151931062
Yes and one it's implied to be a Jewish thing. Shaped like a pyramid.

>>151930874
>it really is strange that one was taken down
Actually I think they never translated it and it was some other group that did it if I'm not mistaken

Mangaupdates shows that Andysislands(staff of MT) translated some chapters but Syndicate translated Butsu Zone completely
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=4235

Check the Death Zero oneshot too btw
http://mangapark.me/manga/butsu-zone/s2/v2/cspecial/1

>>151931108
Different kind of laziness, I guess.

>>151918110
you have a couple of fun af GBA games

be grateful

>>151931108
>tfw togashi and takei were your two favorite mangakas as a kid
>religiously follow whatever they did
>both inconsistently put out work now and never give out concrete info about projects
i'm cursed i'm sure of it

So why is Flowers bad?

>>151930890
>the point of the manga is basically yoh's character philosophy
Also Takei's
He based a lot of Shaman King on his beliefs

>>151931189
It's drawing on Illuminati conspiracy theories, Judaism, and I guess a pinch of Yu-Gi-Oh for good measure.

>>151931228
>Remembering Blockman

TRIGGERED

Power levels got weird as shit towards the end.
Wasn't the black kid stronger than Yoh or something?

>>151931251
Because Hana is a whiny brat and just when it started getting interesting Jump Plus died and no-one picked it up?

>>151931228
the castlevania ones got hard as fuck later on

>>151931283
What's wrong with that? It was quite refreshing that the MC was the weakest one and the "comedy relief" the strongest.

>>151931283
For a while, I think.

>>151930953
>Even a cliché shit like THE POWER OR FRIENDSHIP killed Hao would've been better
No it wouldn't
The anime did it and it was shit

Shaman King is a battle of religions/morals/beliefs and shit
Usually in battle shonens the theme is good vs evil...in Shaman King it's Love vs Betrayal

>>151931283
Yoh became mid tier and Ren was the weakest if I recall correctly.
The best part is that at that point he doesn't even care anymore because he realizes how bullshit everything is and becomes chill as fuck.

>>151931283
Pascal Avaf is super good.

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>>151931339
Oh, I don't think there was anything wrong with it.
It was just unusual is all.

>>151930890
>the point of the manga is basically yoh's character philosophy - fighting is pointless and everything will work itself out in the end, so we should all be peaceful
I'm usually not one to read too much into things and I don't even remember much of the plot of the series, but the thing I still remember the most is that feeling of being chill. I don't know how Takei managed to do that but even after forgetting everything I still remember how fucking zen the whole thing was.
The (second) ending didn't even surprise me, I just accepted it.

>>151931108
Takei didn't ruin Shaman King
He did make an unneeded sequel though

It's sad that he lost all his talent

I just want a proper SK anime adaptation
I could give a fuck about any of Takei's new horrible manga

>>151931196
i've been wanting to read death zero since flowers, takei holds on tight to stories he wants to tell
>>151931283
Yoh was either the second weakest or just in third place

>>151931307
Hana felt fresh to me he was unlike any other shone protagonist this decade he was selfish violet and rude, I wanted to see him grow out of it too
>>151931415
he was a hippie that could draw and lived in japan

>>151931430
>U-Ultimo is not that horrible, t-though.

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>>151921752

Pretty fun.

>>151931251
MC it's pretty unlikeable and annoying, has grudge with his father and seems to be a kind of prodigy shaman, but he cannot fight because reasons. And the ren kid have a stupid poop head.

>SK thread getting +100 posts

What the fuck is this sorcery?
>>151925163
HOLY SHIT ANON, PLEASE DON'T GET MY HOPES UP

>>151931066
>fights become pretty meaningless half-way in
That was a bad thing 2bh
The part in the middle where they're just having random fights outside the battle coliseum were pretty fucking boring and all over the place...easily the low point of the manga

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>>151931251
cause Jeanne dies

>>151931469
link fammo?

>>151931457
It's
1.Choco
2.Horohoro
3.Lyserg
4.Yoh
5.Ren

>>151931490
He's talking about how a little while after that they stopped having random fights because everyone realized they were out-fucking-classed by Hao. His followers realized they didn't need to fight because he could do whatever he wanted, and everyone else realized they couldn't resist.

>>151931541
>tfw we'll never get a romcom manga about ren and jeanne

>>151931457
Yeah, but I mean, I don't remember/realize exactly how he managed to convey that.
Maybe it was the character designs, or the main character, or the fact that he promised that Hao couldn't lose and actually went with that. I don't remember how he made me feel this but I'll always remember SK as being extremely chill for a battle manga.

>>151931541
Did Ren go batshit insane again after that?

>>151931251
>The kids are cunts
>Hana is an asshole
>Alumni is a failure of an Anna and really annoying
>Men is creepy
>Yoh and Anna killed by a fucking Helicopter
>Jeanne killed by some bitch somehow
>Horohoro is a neet
>Lyserg nowhere near to be found
>Redseb and Seyram are evil for some reason
>G8
>Tamao is now a lame Anna clone but tries so hard to be edgy as fuck it's insufferable
>Ryu is a bum instead of seeking his best place with this buddies
>Chocolove is still in jail
>Ren is nowhere to be fucking found while his wife gets murdered
>Jews from Yahabe have literal asspull powers with no explanation
>New Asakura branch out of fucking nowhere
>Yohane's sister is a literal shitty rehash of Tao Jun

>>151931490
At that point they're still fighting because they think they're helping Hao by collecting souls for the fire spirit.
I agree that it drags on but at that point they still have a purpose, it's not until much later on that even the followers of Hao realize that they don't need to do anything to win.

so /a/, are you still seeking your happy place?

>>151931597
Who fucking knows
Jump X got killed shortly after she was revealed ded

>>151931664
/a/ is my happy place

>>151931637
>Horohoro is a neet
I swear Takei hates Horohoro. That seemingly-upbeat snowboarder had a hard life.

>>151931584
>Kinda imagined that Ren would marry Jeanne for no real reason after the anime finished airing in my country
>It actually happened

I thought I was reading a fake scanlation when I read Funbari no Uta for the first time.

Oh, this Flowers thing reached 6 volumes? Damn. It feels like yesterday that I saw the new series announcement.

I wonder what it ended up being abou-
>>151931637
What the hell.

No love for the soundtrack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0g5lqURm_Q

>>151931464
Ultimo was the start of his gayass art-style

>>151931774
Post the "TO BE SHAMAN KING" one.

>>151931637
Been a while since I read Flowers but
Yoh and Anna got resurrected along with Hana, right?
They didn't stay ded after the choppa incident
Right?

>>151931637
Weren't Yoh and Anna revived with the condition of putting the onis inside Hanna.

>>151931647
But the fights themselves were very boring and lazy which was my big issue

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>these color pages got greyscaled in the tank/ebook

Damn shame. Kodansha's is most likely greyscaled as well. Have to go see if anyone's been ripping Shonen Edge.

>>151931584
>Ren
>not having a threesome with Jun and Lee Pyron

>>151931865
Jun, Lee, and Lee's wife?

>>151931815
yup.

I think its kinda lame that Hana has that berserker mode aspect to him after it was revealed he had onis in him, easier to make a plot around it I guess.

>>151931865
Ren is a pure boy that married a traditional Christian maiden, he doesn't condone degeneracy.

>>151931806
>>151931815
No
Only Hana got resurrected

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>>151931865
That's lewd

>>151931687
that's pretty sad

>>151931251
honestly the worst part about flowers was it's pacing was really bad it could've been good if it were allowed to run but it often felt like the plot wasn't moving, characters and conflict would be introduced but not be expanded upon at all, we know almost nothing about most of what was going to make up the main cast and it was two years in when jump kai died, i have hope it'll come back and be great though

>>151931567
Lyserg was at least 2 Yoh and Hororo's placement are never stated though if you base it of furyouku then Hororo would be number 3

>>151931595
mostly Yoh, he would always bring back whoever he fought with back home to eat dinner with and stuff like that lead to a chill atmosphere

>>151931637
>If i don't get answers to questions immediately the series is bad
>characters from the old series have to appear right from the start even if they really have nothing to do
>Ryu wants to work for Yoh and Anna he does somehow a bum
>G8 does nothing but I still hate them

every shaman king thread you post this man and some of this is flat out wrong

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>>151931707

>>151931865
I want to rape Jun.

>>151931827
I actually think the fights took a real nosedive after the Shaman Fight started to be honest.
The manga gained in depth and characters but the fights became pretty hard to follow and looked very asspull-y.
The only fights to this day that I still can remember crearly where early stuff like Yoh vs Faust or his second fight against Ren for example, at some point they become a clusterfuck and by the end I was just reading the speech bubbles and ignoring half of the panels.

>>151931711
>Jeanne kisses Ren to revive him while looking embarrassed
>It's actually Shamash who kisses him
>Herpaderp Ren and Jeanne are a thing in the future
>"You just couldn't let Yoh win this one could you?"

>>151931968
Shaman King didn't have many fights when you look at it objectively

Yoh vs Horohoro was good too after Yoh got done fucking around

The point was that the fights used to mean something and were well developed up until the mid-point where they turned into trash and you only read it for the story after that

BTW can't forget Yoh vs Tao Jun/Lee Pyron...that fight was GOAT

>>151931953
Did he at least fuck Pirika?

>No love for the soundtrack?
>>151931774
See this
>>151929858

>>151931953
While we're at it what the fuck was that thing where it was implied that his mom was fucked by a wolf

Seriously what the hell

>>151932109
Wait, what?

Is this actually true? What were they thinking, that song is almost unforgettable to me.

>>151932066
Also the Faust battle it's pretty exciting, read by the first time, I was thinking how the whole thing guns resolve.

>>151931898
>>151931913
>>151931964
Can't blame him for acting weird around his sister
Jun was hot as hell

>>151932066
A couple of the later fights were still good, but yeah most of them were messes.

>>151931952
>if you base it of furyouku then Hororo would be number 3
Horohoro=120000
Lyserg=115000

>>151931968
alot of the fights were used to introduce new over souls and concepts, I like the stuff with the patch though the were quick and dirty but fun too

>>151931952
>defending the atrocious piece of shit that was flowers
gas yourself

>>151932206
Lyserg was 170,000 wasn't he?

>>151931904
What?
Gonna have to reread
But whatever iirc death doesn't mean that much in SK

>>151931953
;_;
DamukoxHorohoro 4everz!!!!

>>151932066
I would argue that Takei just isn't good at drawing fights, if you look at most of the later ones, they still had some interesting concepts behind them, but the actual action usually felt flat. Most of the O.S introduced were still well drawn, and they always had some lore to back them up.

>>151932131
The wolf is the ancient ancestor of the Horokeu family

>>151932238
Start was super atrocious but it looked more promising around when it ended.

I was pretty hype to see all the surviving cast members get shuffled around again.

>>151932276
Takei's official punching bag.

>>151932307
Most Mangaka don't know how to draw fights(only Toriyama's drawings in Dragon Ball ever satisfied me)

Takei's fights were more entertaining for the ideas behind them
At least he put more effort at the beginning

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I don't know which was the worse ending in my opinion

>the adventure continues because we got axed: dream waifu Princess Hao edition
>I was allowed to continue it but then all the X-Laws used super cars as mediums and all these fights you don't really care about and then Hao's Mom comes in on the ghost train and slaps him

>>151932309
I guess it works for me?

>>151932259
Yes I remember Tamao saying they were on a trip, like a real trip, why would you lie about that with a kid who see ghosts.

>>151932379
I really liked boatgirl and +1 X-law

>>151932244
nope

>>151932378
Toriyama pulled amazing martial-arts fights every other week, the guy was on another level.

>>151932238
stop being a retard and reducing everything to a greentext

with flowers we never got to know the characters ans what really made them different
the story moved slow and was too Hana centric, but it was going somewhere and I had hope that it was going somewhere good, there are other things too like yahbae's yugioh power and the sudden Hao branch like you brought up but fuck man
>the old characters aren't here REEEEEE
>They don't tell me the answer to every mystery right away REEEEE

are retarded things to complain about

>>151932259
>But whatever iirc death doesn't mean that much in SK
Nope
Yoh and Anna are gone
They won't get revived

>>151931904
No
Wait a fucking second
In SK epilogue they are both alive and that shit happens when Hana is already a little kid

I'm >>151932259 btw

>>151932095
So about Pirika's water spirit.

When's that thing gonna do anything?

>>151932346
Death Zero arc was the only decent part
Everything preceding it was utter mundane trash

I still can't believe how atrocious the pacing was for a monthly manga...he literally schooled Kubo he was fucking writing a monthly manga in "Weekly mode"

>>151932390
It says it's a legend anyways
The whole thing is dramatic because Horohoro didn't tell anyone his real name because he hated it

>>151932565
if i recall, his real name is trey racer senpai

>yfw you take acid and realize lyserg is named after lsd

>>151932684
And his spirit is morphine

TAKEIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>151931774
Was Hao's rock theme ever released?

https://youtu.be/qjFPJQ9tywc?t=40s Played at this point.

>>151932684
Fucking hippie.

>>151932431
>with flowers we never got to know the characters ans what really made them different
Sure we did
Adult Tamao = Annoying lame version of Anna trying too hard
Alumni = Same as above
Men = Just fucking weird
Hana = Extremely annoying(even if it seemed like he was improving by the end)
Yohane = Faggot
Yohane's sister = Bad Tao Jun clone
Not-Horohoro and Not-Ryu = Forgettable

All of the new characters were extremely unlikeable versions of old one


>the story moved slow and was too Hana centric, but it was going somewhere
No, let's face it...it wasn't really going anywhere
Hana had his opportunity to learn from his mistakes quite a few times but he still insisted on using the oni's like the little dipshit he was and got kill

Then the Death Zero arc(like the incorporated Yahabe stuff which was originally not supposed to be a thing in Flowers) was basically just Takei and his fetish for reusing old stuff...it was nothing original or new

Flowers of Maize was a bullshit tournament just for the sake of having a reason to fight and the idea that G8 can interfere with Hao was shit

>>151932684
>>151932721
don't forget peyote

>>151932453
I think he rewrote it in Flowers to where Yoh and Anna stay dead since Hana fights Yoh in the Great Spirit

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>>151932651
>trey racer
SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP

>>151932788
Eres correcto.

>>151932721
Morphine was a fucking qt
Wish I had a fairy like her to be my faithful companion

>>151932857
kek

>>151932877
>Lyserg treating her like shit

I will never not be mad.

>>151932911
Fuck the anime for this shit

>>151932911
Lyserg was much nicer to her in the manga. He got her and his Angel.

>>151932784
none of those characters are explored at all a few we get hints at there past and maybe a glimpse into their motivations)excluding Tamo and Hana)

and the whole point of the death zero arc is to force Hana to grow up a bit because of how think headed he was being

things do need to change but flowers can be good if it continues

>>151932911
>>151932941
Fuck, didn't realise until now that Lyserg was so cute. I guess I'm gay like Takei now.

>>151932942
>none of those characters are explored at all
Not my problem
He had all the time in the world and he didn't do it...he was writing a monthly series as if it was a weekly one

I can only judge what I actually got to read and boy were they unlikeable...way too immature compared to the og crew for my taste

Flowers can't be good, Takei really went downhill and Flowers was all over the place...it's a good thing Takei decided to cancel it and I hope he won't bring it back

He could have done a Shaman King sequel set on the year 3000 or something but nooooooo...he had to pull a Chrono Cross on us

>>151932942
Also we all know about Tamao
She grabbed Harusame when Mikihisa was kill and fought on Tokyo or something with Ryu

Still hate how he turned her into a shitty Anna clone and it just wasn't believable that Tamao would turn like that...it doesn't make any goddamn sense

>>151933100
>Flowers can't be good
this is the only thing I disagree with you on my dude, i think he can make something good out of flowers, though I will admit I liked Hana and was interested in the rest of the cast

the magazine went belly up, it was't takei's decision to can it

>>151933100
Tamao and Ryu seemed fine to me, and the other three girls were nice too.

>Flowers can't be good
k

>>151933198
>i think he can make something good out of flowers
I don't trust Takei anymore


>it wasn't takei's decision to can it
Yes it was actually
He could have moved it to another magazine but he didn't want to deal with that shit so he basically said "screw this shit"

>>151933188
Maybe Yoh would fall for her that way? Honestly, it's quite retarded.

>>151933310
could he though? he seems to want to still do things with shaman king

>>151933218
>Tamao and Ryu seemed fine to me

>Tamao literally turned into a bad Anna clone...the opposite of what her character always was
>Ryu turned into a bum instead of hanging out with his buddies and trying to find his "best place"
>Fine
No

Flowers would need to be rewritten from the beginning...I'm not sure it's worth it
And I don't trust Takei anymore

>>151933349
>could he though?
Yeah there were other manga that moved without a problem and Flowers was the top seller for that magazine

>>151933321
>Maybe Yoh would fall for her that way?
There was a theory I read before(I think it was in the MT site comments section) that Tamao turned bitter/passive aggressive because of that lol

It still doesn't make sense though...it wouldn't be consistent with her character

>>151933385
oh well if he doesn't want to work on it then that changed everything
>>151933451
she looked up to anna and was put in charge of arsing her kid, so she emulated her

>>151933355
Dude, Ryu wanted to be a chef and the inn makes a lot of sense as his best place. It's got good memories for him like meeting Yoh and Tokageroh and starting his shaman training, and it seems chill as hell. That's a huge improvement over the bum who was squatting in an old bowling alley and looking for somewhere else to belong.

>>151933499
>arsing
Hilariously accurate freudian slip.

>>151933499
Worst part is Tamao agreeing to it and doing a shittier Anna. It doesn't make sense.

>>151933499
>oh well if he doesn't want to work on it then that changed everything
It was more like he didn't feel like it anymore at that moment
He did express interest in continuing it last year but I hope he doesn't

>she looked up to anna and was put in charge of arsing her kid, so she emulated her
But that in itself doesn't make sense
You can't just fucking emulate Anna and it goes completely against Tamao's character

Face it...it was just Takei getting lazy and turning Tamao into Anna so he can justify keeping Anna out of the manga while still having her in at the same time

It also doesn't make sense how strong she became since she never was that strong

>>151933596
Tamo id their servant and ows everything to the asukuras she's very loyal
>>151933617
yeah i'm not really found of tamonna either

>>151933653
I mean, agreeing to play Anna's character, but being more of a bitch. It feels so cheap, it's not like she was this complex character before, but I just don't buy it, I think not even she does, if I remember correctly. Which is more ridiculous.

>>151933741
in fubrai no uta and the end of sk she seems to haven't completely dipped into the persona but by flowers she's into it all the way, I would've have minded if she were just putting on an act though

>>151933821
Well, I guess she ended up being an Anna substitute, which is sad.

>>151930023
What is that giant sword looking thing by yoh

>>151933596
>Worst part is Tamao agreeing to it
No that makes sense since she's loyal to the Asakura Family since they raised her

The part that sucks is the whole Anna clone thing
I hate how Takei became obsessed with turning every female character into an edgy bitch

I would have preferred to see Tamao struggle with Hana but the latter while misbehaving still loving/appreciating her at times...but nooooooo that's too hard to do for Takei

Tamao changed a lot after the stress of having to take care of a baby and the inn by herself while in high school, but I don't remember her being anywhere near as bad as you guys're saying. Once you got past the tough mom introduction she was pretty reasonable. Jesus you guys.

Even Anna III who's the new Anna right down to marrying the MC doesn't seem as bad as the original ballbuster Anna.

>>151932784
>Not-Horohoro and Not-Ryu = Forgettable
Oh yeah, fuck those guys.

>>151933852
it's his oversoul re-designed, it looks like that in flowers too so i guess thats cannon from now on

>>151933883
>Tamao changed a lot after the stress of having to take care of a baby and the inn by herself while in high school
I still don't buy it
It's not like she was abandoned and feared from her own family the way Anna was
Still don't understand why they didn't leave Hana with Yoh's Grandpa btw


>Once you got past the tough mom introduction she was pretty reasonable.
>reasonable
>she literally destroyed Yohkyo's house to show off
>she was ordering the hanagumi when in reality the hanagumi should be able to outright murder her ass but now they can't because tamao gained a bullshit furyoku increase out of nowhere

>>151931637
>Redseb and Seyram are evil for some reason
Wasn't it a fake-out?

Already hinted that Yoh's dad or someone else friendly is sealed in golem now and they're probably playing along with the antagonist until at some point they try to triple-cross 'em.

It's not like everyone alive at the end of Shaman King ended up befriended or anything as well as the big bad. Oh wait that's exactly how Takei rolls.

>>151934013
>boss of the inn not ordering the waitresses
And didn't she do fine against them in that 3v3 girl's gone wild in the woods? Don't write off the quiet girl.

Final point, screw Yohkyo and screw his house. Can't believe you're defending that atrocious piece of shit.

>>151934029
>Wasn't it a fake-out?
They sure were acting evil around Tamao and co
Shit was strange and was never explained

The only explanation I could come up with is the Jews brainwashed them with their strange powers

>>151934013
>Hana with Yoh's Grandpa
death
I like to think Yoh and Anna wanted him to make friends too since they both grew up very alone

>>151934092
I don't think they were evil, they were both Jewish as i recall so maybe they chose Yvs over Hao

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Just re-readed the first 5 chapters of Flowers and it doesn't seem like Yoh and Anna are kill.
Characters namedrop them multiple times and refer to them as if they were alive. Pic related
But then again iirc the Yoh that Hao summoned to fight Hana when he visited him inside the G.S. was hinted to be the real Yoh
Shit's confusing

>>151934089
She was partnered by fucking Anna and Tao Jun ffs

Tamao was acting like a show-off which was my point...that shit was borderline insufferable

I have no hard feelings towards Yohkyo or whatever...the new Asakura branch coming out of nowhere in Flowers was pure cringe

>>151934155
you dense m8? they guy who was suggesting that was fucking with you

>>151934179
>Takei was fucking with you
Well, yeah.

>>151934153
>I like to think Yoh and Anna wanted him to make friends
He sure didn't make any friends living with Tamao

Yoh's Grandpa would have been better for Hana
Tamao is just a brute...she's not wise at all and no wonder Hana turned into such a little shit

>>151934153
But they weren't against the Asakura family previously

In Flowers they clearly are which is confusing

>>151930743
Yoh's belief that anyone that can see spirits can't be evil.

>>151934225
Yoh's grandpa wasn't good for Yoh though he also died, it might have something to do with FoM too like how the shamen fight took place in tokyo

>>151934272
they were just kids during the shamen fight, with revenge as their only goal

>>151934272
>In Flowers they clearly are which is confusing
I still bet it's a fake-out.

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>>151934179
>you dense m8?
H-How did you know?

>>151934351
>Yoh's grandpa wasn't good for Yoh though
Yes he was
He spared him because he didn't have it in him to kill him at birth and it's because of him that Yoh believed that anyone who can see ghosts isn't a bad person

He mentored him as a kid on lots of things

>he also died
Are you mixing Mikihisa with Yohmei?
Because I'm talking about Yohmei

He was shown warning Tamao about the Asakura branch in Flowers

>>151934495
I was still referring to the loneliness thing, I don't mean Yoh's grandpa was bad, and no they're both dead he was on his death bed in flowers, they even had a sheet over his face

man, i remember when i first saw jun
diamonds

Went ahead and bought v01 since it's $6. Looking forward to volume 2.

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>>151935582
Damn, looks like the back of someone given the thumbnail.

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>>151933852

>>151935524
She started my chinese dress fetish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLl145FqQg

>>151935749
>>151930023
Im glad I remember how godly Takei's concepts were back then. If only he had someone else making the story while he stays in second command or just draw, I think Flowers can be better

https://twitter.com/takeimokei

Is that the real Takei?

I really hope we get a remake from Mappa or M2.

>>151918110
I only watched the anime and found it mediocre. Should I read the manga for a better impression?

>>151918110
The God is mamacon

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>>151931108

>>151939686
That should be the implied answer to the question, yes.

>>151920861
>>151920618
the ending isnt bad but the build up to the ending was total shit. felt so rushed.

I never read Flowers. How did it end? Are they really dead?

>Hao
I think you guys mean ZekeI still don't understand why you americans named him this

>>151930809
>>151930749
>>151930662
>>151930566
I like how they look more extraterrestrial than robotic.
they look like design for ancient people that moved to another planet and evolved

>>151931856
for a second there I thought yoh and hao did a spirit fusion and that was yoh's spirit clad in fire spirit armor that shaped into that.

>>151918110
LOOK AROUND YOU LOOK BEYOND

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>>151933355
>Tamao literally turned into a bad Anna clone...the opposite of what her character always was
She had to raise her childhood crush's son and admnistrate the inn by herself during her teenage years, she had a breakdown and became a school delinquent.

>>151944014
probably easier for people to pronounce his name? its not hard but you would question how to pronounce it. and its 4KIDS.

>>151934615
>he was on his death bed in flowers
Yes I know that
But that was at the beginning of Flowers
Yohmei could have raised him the several years before(in fact it would have been interesting to see Yohmei die on Hana and to see how this would affect the latter)

>>151944855
or probably had a crisis cause she liked yoh but yoh didn't like her and liked anna so in her mind she must become anna. and she probably heard how even hao tried to make anna his woman

>>151937706
But Takei's drawing skill has turned to shit
His art used to be good but at some point it turned into this angular looking gay crap

>>151938148
Yes

>>151939686
>Should I read the manga for a better impression?
Yes and yes
The manga is lightyears better

>>151944855
Yeah I know
It's still just a lazy excuse for Takei to turn her into Anna

He's obsessed with Anna

I really fucking hope he starts something new and refreshing as soon as possible.
Either that or indeed a proper adaptation would be nice.
I really hope meme magic gets the ball rolling again for this.

>>151945262
>I really fucking hope he starts something new and refreshing as soon as possible.
Nekogahara

>proper adaptation would be nice
One can only dream
I'm still pissed that fucking FMA got a proper reboot in 2009 but SK didn't(that would have been the perfect time to do it with the Kanzenban too)

>>151932276
At least she will always be with him, just not totally as a human.

Tho, certainly it is quite the coincidence, that horo's dead girlfriend was chosen from hundreds of thousands of people, not only to become a spirit of nature, but also, horo's partner in the shaman fight.

God the old anime had such a beast soundtrack...especially the vocal songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2zh60XmPKg

If they make a proper adaptation Megumi Hayashibara is a must for the songs(and for voicing Anna and shit)
And they need to bring back all the original actors...I can't picture Yoh without Yuuko Sato

>>151945534
It's not a coincidence
She ran into the Koropukkuru and they felt sorry for her...she loved him so much she wanted to stay in this world and that held her back from going to Heaven

Damuko is a later invention though since I doubt Takei planned her from the beginning

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I rather have an Ultimo adaption.

>>151945912
Nobody cares about this gay fujoshit

>>151945912
just give me translations. and is that how it ends? holy shit thats gay.

>>151930953
>I mean, yeah it's original at all but, damn it's a shitty closure.
Its it even original its just shit . Even Takei wasn't satisfied with it

>>151946108
It ends how it begins

>>151931430
>Takei didn't ruin Shaman King
He did thanks to laziness and his blantant Kishimoto level characterfagging for Hao who is almost as bad as Sasuke and also his blantant waifufagging for Anna.

>>151946144
>Even Takei wasn't satisfied with it
bullshit

>>151946175
what does that mean? a time loop?

I think Anna started my kuudere fetish.

>>151946108
>>151946249

It ends with a party in Stan Lee's house.

>>151946341
How the hell is Anna a Kuudere?

>>151946424
>kuudere-More often than not, they come off as emotionless, acting very cold, blunt and cynical.
>how the hell is anna a kuudere

come on man

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>>151931251
NOT MUH SHAMAN KING which at this point should be a good thing unfortunately it proves how creatively bankrupted is. I do like that Hana's hatred for his father is justified, unlike that faggot Boruto, since Yoh is a shitty father and his abrasive attitude with his potential new spirit being a WWII fighter pilot is very interesting. Te rest of the new cast aren't all there yet and some are just expies of the previous cast . I'll say it has potential since the tone is very reminiscence the first half of Shaman King

>>151946484
But Kuudere use that as a front afaik
Anna is legit cold

>>151946567
No, that's not necessary.

>>151946567
shes a cross from yandere and kuudere.

>>151946621
No, just kuudere.

>>151946508
>Yoh is a shitty father
Yoh is not a shitty father fuck you
He literally had no other choice

Hana is more pissed that he missed out on the Shaman Fight

And the reason why Flowers is bad is precisely because most of the new characters feel like bad rehashes of the old ones...can't fucking Takei come up with original characters?

I hate that he turned Tamao into Anna especially...it would have been an interesting dynamic to see Shy(but more mature/responsible) Tamao and Mischevious Hana but that would have been too much effort from Takei

>>151946621
She's too much of a bossy bitch to be a Kuudere

>>151935993
LOOK AROUND YOU
LOOK BEYOND

>>151947123
That has nothing to do with being a kuudere.

>>151944014
>Zeke
Triggered as fuck. Nearly two decades later, I'm still trying to wrap my head around why they felt it necessary to change his name.

I watched anime. Somehow ended up reading ending, because I though't it's spin off and I remember reading 3 versions/oneshots of first chapter(s) to Flowers. Afterwards I forgot about series.
Now I'm completely confused.