JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Vento Aureo

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>>151887995
It's the peak of battle shonen tbqh.

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doppio gets me uppio

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>>151888067
best boy

>>151887995
>Why was Golden Wind so good?

It had some really good fights but the story itself was a complete clusterfuck, like zombie bruno being a thing for no reason until Araki decided to explain it in Rolling Stone, like he forgot to put it in the story or something.

Because Araki actually knew how he wanted it to end when he started it, although his lack of planning meant he couldn't find anywhere suitable to fit the flashback in so it just feels tacked on st the end despite showing us why Bruno did what he did. He did the same with Stone Ocean but was too subtle about it and also rushed the ending because there wasn't enough content to stretch it out to another volume.

>>151887995
Buccellati has to be one of the best characters Araki has ever created. I hope Sasuke comes back to voice him for the anime.

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>>151888067

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>>151887995
I wonder how much of Araki's depression at the time influenced its writing
I remember reading in a post-scriptum that he couldn't go through with Fugo betraying the gang and wrote it out

>>151888110
I thought having an ongoing mystery about why Bruno is alive was a great idea.

>>151888110
How did the zombie Bruno thing work? I can't seem to remember.

>>151888257
Gold Experience unconciously gave him enough "life" to bypass his death for a short time.

So how do you guys want David to handle Fugo in the Part 5 adaption?
>Leave it just as it is
>Just a short scene show where Fugo is at the end of the anime
>Make PHF an OVA
>Go original and let Fugo got killed by bossu after the rest of gang left on the boat or something

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>>151888202
Anyone would be depressed after killing the best character off. Depression is a slow kira

>>151888293
Was that explained in Rolling Stones? Fuck I have bad memory

>>151887951
It only makes sense for the side of JUSTICE to use hats then.

>>151888308
They will shove the entirety of the Golden Heart Golden Ring novel after the Mystery of King Crimson. Or leave it as it is.

>>151888308
I want David to go for the OVA route.
Adapt the entirety of Kishibe Rohan wa Ugokanai, Dead Man's Questions and ALL THE LIGHT NOVELS.

>>151888308
I really like the meta admission that PH couldn't be written around, so I hope they keep it as is. Part of the appeal of JoJo to me is seeing the progression Araki goes through mixing and matching new types of powers.

>>151888308
>Just a short scene show where Fugo is at the end of the anime

This or keep it as is. I really hope David puts Rolling Stone right after Gio kills Polpo because that is where it belongs, not at the end.

>>151888532
It kinda spoils everybody who dies

>>151888308
I'll go with 2 and if it's possible 3

Makes me wonder what are they going to do with 6 and handle were was Josuke and Giorno

>>151888557
Maybe, but at the end it feels like a poorly made explanation for something that didnt make sense even by the bizarre standards of JoJo.

Who knows though, it could have been the translation that butchered VA for me and the anime subs will fix it or something.

>>151888557
Just make it so the stone displays the faces, but the faces aren't clear enough to make out who is who. Being forwarned that someone will definitely die, not knowing who will die is also a kind of suspense.

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>>151888363
>announced Rohan OVA only available if you buy all the BDs
>this goes for any other OVAs they make as well

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>>151888863
David gotta earn those shekels somehow

>>151887995
I just finished Part 5 and must say it's fantastic.

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>>151888724
I dunno
They'll probably do something
They've been taking a lot of liberties with the anime overall, specially Part 4

>I want power! I will rule over the gang, and I will kill anyone who gets in the way of my dream!

What did Giorno mean by this?

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What Jojo do you think would be the best dancer, and best style of dance?

Any other non-Jojos as well

>>151889403
Stroheim
The robot

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Gappy makes me happy

>>151888308
>Make PHF an OVA
This, or a stinger scene that nods towards PHF.

Speaking of part 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44UeEXYNnOk

This is probably old news, but I haven't laughed this hard in a long time

>>151888532
>I hope David explicitly spoils the deaths of Abbacchio, Narancia and Buccellati
>I hope David explicitly spoils the reveal of the Sex Pistols
No

>>151888308
Leave it as-is. Fugo didn't accompany the others and was never seen in the story again, it was an appropriate ending for him and made the others choosing to go with Buccellati more meaningful.

And don't adapt PHF either, it's as canon as Jorge Joestar. Not to mention how it fucks up every character but Fugo.

>>151889612
Josuke was playing this, got fustrated, attacked the cartridge, and then fixed it, then this ensued.

Balding Bruno aside:

>JoJoboboboboboboboboboboboboboboboboboboboboboboOoOOOOoOOOOOOOoooooooooooo

>>151889612
>nononononononono
?

>>151889781
It's actually a "no".

>>151890178
What happens when you play a bugged copy of the game.

>Joseph's mentor becomes Ppeli Ppeli
>Lisa Lisa becomes the Ultimate Lifeform
>9ra 9kage

It's complete nonsense, yet some bits fit so well it almost seems intentional.

why the fuck can't anyone pronounce vento aureo correctly

it's ow-reo, not aw-reo

>>151890463
because they're american
I, for one, can pronounce it perfectly.

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>>151890463
because the they can't bother to how learn to pronounce it right

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Where can I read all parts of jojo online and where can I buy display/collectible level prints of the manga?

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>>151890654
there's a couple of guys reading part 5 on youtube and their pronunciations kill me

literally just go to google translate and set it to italian, plug in the name, and hit the speech button

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>>151890806
i like to suffer so it link to me

>>151890855

https://youtu.be/6_iLFyYGXls
https://youtu.be/UV1ZixTZ2Yo

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>>151889612
>the infinite muda

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>>151890806
Link that
I love cringing at shitty pronunciations

>>151890902
>>151890883

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>>151890883
>10 secons in and i'm already dying
holy shit, how do you even pronounce that the way he said?

Why is Dio's kid named jojo? Isn't it only supposed to be the Joestars family with that name/nickname?

>>151891287
Gio Gio

>>151891287
it's jonathan's dick so he still a jojo

>>151891287
Because he's also Jonathan's kid.

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>>151891287
You do remember that Dio has Jonathan's body
meaning that Giorno is both Jonathan's and Dios son

>>151891287
Did you forget to read Part 3, anon?

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>>151891331
>>151891334
>>151891343
I completely forgot about Dio stealing Jonathan's body, I'm retarded. And since I'm already asking stupid questions, why aren't the other sons Dio had named jojo?

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>>151891411
Because they are a bunch of losers
Rykiel was cool tho

>>151887995
Because it's not.

>>151887995
>that height
>no way
>google it
yeesh, Giorno's the shortest JoJo. Even shorter than Jolyne by 2cm.

Why the fuck did Araki choose the mob boss to be the least physically intimidating character? Id honestly rather fight him than Johnny based on looks alone.

>>151888308
>>Make PHF an OVA
Give me this or give me death

>>151888056
anyone have this panel in color?

Does anybody have the scene of Kira getting BtD with Killer Queen's image flashing over his own as a webm?
That was easily one of the coolest additions to the anime ever.

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>>151891644

how does araki explain how using tusk uncripples johnny

is he constantly spinning his spine?

>>151891733
y not right?

>>151891733
Wasnt that Jesus magic?
Honestly I wish he stayed crippled

>>151891468
Rykiel was a faggot who couldn't even drive without shitting himself.
Also his outfit is the single worst thing I've ever seen next to Fugo's cheese suit.

>>151891716
another great moment, but i meant when the arrow is in his arm and he's twitching

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>>151891644
this one?

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>>151890883
>Ventoro Oro

>>151891969
i think it wouldve been a nice touch if kira had slit pupils for the finale

>>151891969
>0:07
Are his pupils supposed to be a clock?

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>The colored VA scans won't get translated in my lifetime
Some of the action scenes are fucking incomprehensible in B&W.

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>>151891996
He sorta has it in the finale if you mean like this

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>>151892258
which could be a reference to this and/or stylistic choice

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>>151892396
Woah.

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>>151891941
sorry

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>>151892396
the eye detail is also in his one shot if you want to go that far, like for displaying some emotions with black eyes

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>>151892615
and Pucci does it too
Its like Johnny/Gappy with the flames in their eyes or distinguishing Diavolo from Bruno by looking into the eyes in the finale
The concept isn't new, but it's still a nice detail

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>>151891969
yes, thank you so much

>>151892728
>Its like Johnny/Gappy with the flames in their eyes
http://imgur.com/a/nVHki

>>151892436
no worries man
thanks

I like Joseph, Both old and young.

That is all.

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>>151892849
yeah, i didn't really start paying attention to the eyes that much until someone pointed out the Diavolo/Bruno eyes in the part 5 finale
I don't know how far this sort of thing goes, if it goes all the way back to part 1 or no

>>151892945
Pretty sure just about everyone does, it's mostly contrarianism that's led to the backlash against him.

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>>151893005

Does this shit have good scanlations yet? I never read it.

What if Kars get back to Earth

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>>151893023
that might be going too far
>Gappy's eyes start morphing under extreme stress/emotion

>>151893108
unless he develops a stand he will get fucked in myriad of ways

>>151893245
Ultimate Kars' self-healing powers are probably faster than Crazy Diamond's so I don't see losing to any stand user that isn't Jotaro or Giorno.

>>151888712
Made perfect sense in Italian. It felt a little tacked on but very obviously meant to come after the Mystery of King Crimson. It feels like Araki always had it planned for the story but he didn't plan where to put it except near the end, but because of that lack of planning and just expecting things to fall into place an appropriate time never really came up so he just decided to put it at the end. Having read a proper translation I can tell you, it does NOT belong near the beginning, but it still feels out of place where it is even though it's crucial to Buccellati's character arc and the themes coming together.

>>151893108
He would be just like Angelo since he's a rock floating in space
unless he melts when going through the atmosphere

>>151893381
Killer Queen could fuck him up.

>>151893381
any stand like heaven's door can buttfuck him in myriad of ways

>>151889316
He never wanted power for power's sake, he wanted it so he could minimise abuse of power since if he's in charge then there's less risk of someone worse coming in and fucking up Naples further. And the only people he killed were the Assassination Team and Diavolo's own assassin's who tried to kill him first.

>>151888966
i feel like people are kind of over exaggerating when they say this
there was really nothing that major in part 4

>>151893431
>any stand like heaven's door
Heaven's Door is one of the best stands in the series, don't pretend there's many like it.

>>151888863
killer queen forgot his gloves?

>>151891733
Yes. He's not consciously doing it but reaching that high a level of mastery over the Spin unfucks his spine.

>>151892159
Blame scan quality, they look and flow beautifully in the physical Nip copies I've seen.

>>151893399
Isn't it more crucial to Mista's arc, in that it arguably validates a lot of his superstitions and turns him from a comic-relief character into more of a hero? Buccellati was cool in it, sure, but it didn't really do anything to change how he came across, Mista was the one who did everything and gained depth because of it.

>>151893567
Oh yeah I just mentioned Bruno because a lot of people in these threads I've seen don't get his arc. Mista's was always self explanatory at least to me even looking through the shit scans though obviously it could be a lot clearer.

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>>151891826
It's not because of the spin, Gyro explicitly told him that the spin wasn't able to cure his paralysis early on and that never changed. He was gradually growing better from exposure to the corpse-parts, the fact that he only became completely cured after the corpse was completely reassembled and briefly in his possession isn't a coincidence.

>>151893614
Does that mean Jesus sent Johnny's crippledom to someone else? Since all Jesus's abilities are based on Equivalent Exchange.

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>>151893612
Oh, are you talking about the 'Zombuccellati is such an asspull' people? I dunno if Sleeping Slaves really explains that, but the explanation was always pretty clear, right? If you pump a corpse with life at just the right/wrong moment then you get a living soul trapped in a slowly-decaying body, it's not hard to figure out.

>>151893639
Probably, my money would be on someone (or a group of people) gradually losing their ability to walk as Johnny gradually regained his.

>>151893680
No it's pretty obvious but you're underestimating just how stupid the average 4chan poster is. Most of the people who complain about it probably read it in a day then complained about how a slow paced weekly manga of 155 chapters didn't make sense or was stupid because they just skimmed through it.

>>151893507
Well switching the order of some arcs and combining 4 into one is kinda mayor when comparing it to the previous parts were they really didn't do anything that mayor.
The closest thing was moving the chapter where Hol Horse confronts Dio which comes before Darby the Gambler and they put it with Hol Horse and Boingo

>>151893696
I wonder if Jesus even knew his powers didn't actually heal, only exchanged. Maybe the reason he ran away to an unknown continent was because he realised what his powers actually did and didn't want them to be used for evil.

>>151893712
That's fair I guess, way too many people here write off Pucci as a shallow character that's nothing but a mindless DIOdrone, or Jolyne as a slut with daddy-issues.

>>151893767
>Jolyne as a slut with daddy-issues
But that's what she is at first.

>>151893767
It's unfortunate because 5, 6 and 7 actually have a lot of good character stuff to discuss. The people who write of Pucci and other characters like that are probably the same ones who think Araki wrote Valentine as a hero.

>>151893783
Well a lot of people think she's like that in the whole story
while in reality she's like that for like 15 chapters when she realises Jotaro always cared for her
same goes for the people that think Jotaro just dumped her for shits and giggles

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>>151893783
SHES NOT A SLUT SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND BUT HAD YET TO ENGAGE IN COITUS

So what's ultimate Soft & Wet ability is going to be?
Time steal?

>>151893758
I sort of wonder if his powers functioned differently while he was alive, and if the way people try to use his corpse is at all similar to how he consciously used his own abilities.

A prevalent theme in SBR is that people who were greedy and desired the corpse for themselves and/or their own agenda were punished - the assassins, Hot Pants, Diego, Axl Ro, Valentine, arguably Johnny until he let go of it. People like Lucy and Steven were never punished though, because their motive was always to protect each other.

Araki seems generally fairly respectful of faiths, so I don't think he'd intend for his message to be 'Jesus' blessing was evil and should never be used' but would be more along the lines of 'Jesus' blessing was dangerously powerful and abusing it after his death was dangerous'.

>>151893859
He steals the beating of a heart
and thats how he kills Jobin

I wonder if it's possible to achieve Part 1-2-3 body type

It probably is but with way too much work dedicated to it

>>151893783
She talks about masturbating once (and we talk about it all the time in here) and is a sarcastic shit when female guards try to sexually harass her, and her 'daddy-issues' were always just understandable coldness that completely stopped after she learned Jotaro cared about her.

>>151893819
Jotaro definitely didn't dump her for shits and giggles, but his neglect of her seems more based on genuine cluelessness about what a father should be than anything. He probably thought that Sadao never being around was appropriate parental behavior.

>>151893880
I highly doubt that Jobin is actual villain.
They will probably fight but unless he can melt bubbles he's kinda insta-fucked given that Gappy can just take all his senses.

>>151893807
Didn't Araki say he explicitly wrote Valentine as a guy who genuinely thinks of himself as an American hero? As in the guy is fucking delusional and self-obsessed as shit, and all the more dangerous because of it.

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Are you happy to see me again in P5 /a/?

>>151891615
Aren't all parts coloured and posted on Batoto?
Where the fuck do i download manga from?

>reading part 5
>"we wear civilian clothes to blend in"
>look at op image

what did he mean by this

>>151893990
why araki took such a huge dump on him

>>151893971
Of course, but retarded memers that think that valentine = trump will go to insane lengths to try and justify every actions he made, even trying to rape Lucy etc

>>151893864
Oh yeah I never meant to imply Araki would write Jesus' blessing to be evil or bad but more like Jesus' heroism being in that he stopped when he realised the effects and tried to make sure no one else could use it again. The image of Jesus is still respected as it should be because historically he was a pretty cool guy but making the power have drawbacks like Stands because it's JoJo, though I like your interpretation more honestly.

>>151894008
Because that's what he does with returning characters

>>151893971
I meant more that they think Araki intended him to be a genuine hero and not just a guy who thinks he's a hero because his power is literally based on meaningless martyrdom and he completely misunderstood what his father meant about being a hero. They're difficult to interact with because they'll justify everything Valentine did and call YOU an idiot for thinking Valentine was evil because he was so obviously a completely selfless hero and Love Train is a completely sensible solution to a problem that totally does exist and not the ultimate in selfishness disguised as being for the benefit of others.

>>151894023
This never made a lick of sense, whether you agree with his policies or not Trump is an extremely emotional guy who says exactly what he's thinking at the time and tweets it, whereas Valentine is incredibly restrained and precise. He knew that his wife had been replaced for weeks before he finally acted on it, and his plans of sending assassins after Johnny and Gyro the way he did was as much to push them towards the corpse-parts so he could steal them later as it was to try and kill them.

Not to mention that Valentine got 91% and Trump got 46.1%, they're really not comparable in any way.

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>>151888067

>>151894134
The Love Train thing was really weird in general, didn't the authors notes say that the 'drawing things together' aspect of it erased miles of countryside (including people, land and animals) when it activated?

Dumbass managed to shrink his own country and would've probably done so on a much wider scale before even noticing anything was wrong in his bid to draw 'good things' towards the corpse, well done.

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>>151888067
Me and my son

>>151894008
>>151894082
I dunno, did he? While Polnareff suffered a lot he was also arguably the most important person in Diavolo's downfall along with Trish and Buccellati. If it wasn't for him then Abbacchio's sacrifice would've been meaningless, and the gang likely would've been forced to defend themselves from attacks by assassins and/or Diavolo himself until they finally died pointlessly.

>>151894209
Don't under-estimate speedreaders, anon

>>151894302
I think the other anons meant about how Polnareff got shat on when he returned in Part 5 (became a cripple and maybe an eye, lost his Stand, died and then got his soul trapped inside a turtle)

>>151894209
It's a combination of this>>151894353
and le funny "make america great again" memes

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>>151891548

>Polnareff says that split personalities are usually the result of coping with trauma
>Diavolo never revealed himself to protect Doppio EXCEPT when the fortune teller was grabbing at Doppio's pants
>Doppio usually handles things well but started getting faint and quietly asking him to stop rather than shoving him or something he's usually do when threatened
>every other time Doppio was in danger of being killed Diavolo would just give him Epitaph and tell him to figure something out
>was raised by a Catholic priest until his mother got out of prison
>sewed his mother's mouth shut so she couldn't repeat what he told her to anyone
Doppio was molested and his mob boss persona was an attempt at regaining some of his masculinity and also his imaginary friend/guardian angel? He sewed his mother's mouth shut because he told her and she was going to get the police but then Doppio realised that meant everyone else would find out and had to silence her at any cost. His split psyche only got worse over the years of coping and when he found the Arrows and got stabbed, the excess of alium bacteria built up from not being used for centuries gained sentience like Foo Fighters and latched onto the dominant part of his psyche, thus birthing the second soul Diavolo AKA King Crimson.

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>>151894501
Redeemed Kira vs Punished Giorno is canon

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>>151894521
How many decades do I have to wait for Araki to write a detailed backstory for my niggas?

>>151894369
Yeah, but even with all that Giorno's victory was his victory. I'd argue that even with all of that he was treated better than characters like Okuyasu or even Josuke, who were never mentioned again after their part was over.

And face it, while I love Silver Chariot's design and am the first to say it had some great fights in 3, it really couldn't compete with later stands in terms of creativity. 'My stand is a swordfighter that moves fast' isn't very exciting compared to 'My stand can unzip and zip anything apart' or 'My stand is half a dozen imps that can redirect bullets and relay information' or 'My stand is a remote-controlled airplane that's ideal for surveillance'. Crippling Polnareff was probably the kinder thing to do, it would've hurt more seeing him be outclassed just because his stand wasn't as good as newer ones.

realistically, when will the anime adaption come out?

>>151891548
Some of those heights got retconned though, when Narancia grew back to his original height at the end of the Little Feet fight it said he was only 164 centimeters.

And Giorno's only 15, be fair to the kid.

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>>151894570
Diavolo/Doppio backstory being vague was the whole point
You get a certain amount of stuff but not the whole thing so you can piece it together

>>151894570
Once he retires he'll publish a tell all autobiography/artbook describing all the inside details during his run at WSJ and what he intended for each Part and what he thinks of each of them himself, all accompanied by pictures from his untouched stash of non-sexual full nudes of all his characters in the manner of Greek sculptures that he undoubtedly has hidden away somewhere. He will retire after finishing JJL which he plans on running for 125 chapters.

>>151894521
I don't think it was the priest though. Didn't the narrator (who's pretty unbiased) say that he was a kind and reasonable parent?

>>151894644
Didn't Araki once said he wanted to do 11 Parts?

>>151894601
Late this year carrying over into next year or just flat out next year probably. I don't see David being able to pull off another 39 episode adaptation this soon after DiU, especially since DiU itself only just made it to the deadline.

>>151894570
Diavolo and Doppio are some of my favorite characters but the whole split personality thing could have been done better. It's like Araki just read about it and dumped some tl;dr in the Risotto fight because he didn't know how to implement it better.

>>151894601
Fall at the very earliest.
More realistically, especially if they postpone it on account of the OVA, maybe winter or even spring 2018.

>>151894677
He's never said how many Parts he wants to do, just that he wants to write and draw as long as possible and can see himself retiring in his 60s. He doesn't have a set amount of Parts he wants to do he just writes what he wants at the time with little regard to the future or past.

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>>151894644
I'd like to see him talk about SBR more, it'd be great to hear if/what plans he had for characters like Sandman and shit.

>>151894677
Nope he's never said how many he wants to do and he just writes what he wants, it could end anywhere. That said I think even a Part 9 is unlikely given his age, unless JoJolion ends within the next three years which I don't see happening.

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>>151894696
>it's like Araki just read about it
He probably did

>>151894767
That and SO for me, I get the feeling he's disappointed by how people perceived it and JoJolion has a lot of SO vibes and plot elements to it that makes me think he still wants people to like it.

>>151894696
>>151894784
Reminder that Araki gets all the material he needs by hitting the random article in Wikipedia

>>151894821
Hearing Rohan's rants about how he wants people to read his manga and think about it makes me feel sorry as hell for Araki, it must be rough going from stuff like Stardust Crusaders and Vento Aureo (which, while fun, are much more combat-focused than story-focued) that were hugely iconic and popular to stuff he put more thought into like DIU, SO and finally SBR, which weren't as popular at all.

>>151894928
VA is still pretty story focused though.

>>151894996
Eh, a little but not that much. It's a really simple and linear story and doesn't really change perspectives or explore different things the way DIU does or have a more complex overarching plot like SBR and SO, it's basically Working for the boss > Working against the boss > Defeating the boss.

Don't get me wrong, the story being relatively straightforward isn't a bad thing. While I ultimately like DIU more than it, VA didn't have times where it dragged on the way DIU did in some of the early arcs.

>>151894996
It also had more story progress than part 4

>>151894779
>given his age
He's 56
It's not like he's senile like Toriyama

>>151894767
Should I show this to my mom?

>>151888293
He pretty said the same thing in the manga. Did Rolling Stone say something different?

>>151895177
Yeah but pumping out 40-50 pages of high quality art a month takes it's toll on him. You can see he's using rotoscoped backgrounds now and only drawing the characters and foreground.

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>Tfw There are people in this fandom that thinks Kira is only ongoing villain in Part 4

>>151895218
Yes

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Does anybody have the better scanned version of this?

>>151895232
Only if there's complex backgrounds like buildings and so on, if it's set inside or in a park or forest or whatever (which it often is) he draws them.

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>>151895276

>>151895232
Don't assistants take care of the backgrounds?

>>151895324
Abbacchio looks weird.

Narancia looks the best, definitely an improvement over his original gremlin look.

>>151895324
thanks anon

>>151895398
Abbacchio looks like he was talking when the photo was taken, hence his gormless expression.

I dunno about Narancia though, that weirdly thick neck is really throwing me off. And his face is cute but he looks weirdly startled.

>>151895453
Maybe he was feeling symptoms from Fugo's virus

>>151887995
poor ending i think...but i enjoyed it even though it didnt focus much on Giorno, and he didn't actually hit many people with his stand, barely used it

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>>151895519
Purple Haze takes no prisoners, he'd look more like this.

>>151895519
I'm finally rereading part 5 and Fugo is wallpaper after his fight. No presence and barely any dialogue after and then he leaves the crew. Why is he so shit? I even like Trish more.

>>151895324
is that part 8 artstyle?

After finally finishing part 5 and partially reading 6. I read up on the other JoJo's and i'm just disappointed the story takes such a weird turn. I'm just gonna reread the previous parts and wait till part 8 is finished to continue reading. Part 5 as a whole feels skippable except for the part where we learn more about the origin of stands. Having another time manipulation villain at the end felt overdone. First Dio then Kira who's ability had a lot more thought put into it (which I like).

>>151895703
Yeah, both JoJolion and PHF came out in 2011.

>>151895633
I wish Trish got to do more earlier but to fair she had no powers yet and Bruno was intentionally keeping her in the dark, she does come into her own and gets some good resolve though

Fugo was only good for his Narancia bullying

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>>151895854
>PHF in 2011
I didn't realize it was that recent

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So why the fuck did Star Platinum go to durability E? I feel that really fucked Jotaro over in the fight besides making a terrible choice to save Jolyne and stop Pucci. Also his potential is at C, what other crazy shit Star Platinum could have developed with Time Stop?

>>151896022
>2011
>recent
2011 was 30 years ago.

>>151895633
Araki originally planned on Fugo being a double agent for the boss but dropped that plot line not long after his first fight because he was going through some shit at the time and didn't want to draw Giorno killing him. So with his one purpose in being included dropped he was deadweight so he shelved him until he could write him out because he didn't want to kill anyone he likes off. He got over it eventually since a few months later the murder carnival begun with Abbacchio and continued throughout 6 and 7 and into the modern era with no signs of slowing down.

>>151896042
>moot left 80 years ago

Time sure has gone by.

>>151896033
It went to E because of not practicing for years and also his body started to shut down without his soul or memories and he needed more time to fully recover but wanted to get back out as soon as possible to help Jolyne and body Pucci.

>>151896033
Time-stop is extremely taxing on the user, hence a guy as powerful as DIO only being able to stop it for five seconds at first and nine at maximum after consuming Joestar blood. Jotaro's use of it fucked his stand up.

And it would've been a 'terrible choice' if Jotaro had ignored Jolyne's plight and attacked Pucci. Not only would that have been a boring and unsatisfying lack of character-development that spat on how much him and Jolyne had been shown to care about each other, there's no certainty that Jotaro would've been able to kill Pucci anyway since he'd proven himself able to dodge other attacks that were aimed at him mid time-stop.

>>151896073
>gets a murder boner and kills best boys off
What went wrong

>>151896073
>he was going through some shit at the time
What happened to him during that time? Can I have a story time or at least some sauce?

does anyone else do part 5 poses after shaving your body?
no homo i shave cause of ocd

>>151896073
I don't think it was ever killing characters that upset him, but betrayal. He never shied away from heartbreaking scenes before, but it was always characters being killed by enemies who were horrible people, not by their former friends. Killing Fugo would've been actively traumatizing for Giorno and would've made the story a lot bleaker, especially if Fugo had killed a member of the team before (probably Abbacchio) to prove he was really a threat.

>>151896135
We never found out what he was actually going through because he kept it private but he mentions it in an interview for the first Part 5 LN. Hold on a sec and I'll find it, it's saved with the source on my old hard drive.

>>151896165
Will he ever write betrayal?

>>151896234
We'll probably get it part 8, where Gappy turns out to be the villain and Joshu is Part 8's Jojo all along.

>>151896234
It was specifically because of depression at the time so he might one day, though I'm sure it'd bring up some bad memories.

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>>151896263
>joshuufags

>>151896234
who knows
he was ok with stuffing someone with razor blades & scissors in the throat, but not that
it may be a sensitive subject

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>>151896234

>>151896135
Fuck the Tumblr that hosted it is gone. I'm gonna have to dig deeper.

>>151896303
>diavolo was fapping to doppio's cuteness while this happened

>>151896234
I think the only case of it so far has been fucking Streizo in part 2.

SORT OF Soundman, but he was never really an ally, and neither him nor Johnny really wanted to kill each other, or held grudges against each other over how things turned out.

>>151896336
You can't give orders with an erection. He had to take care of it.

jotaro's ptsd couldn't have been that bad if he named his stand after dio's after the fight

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So I just got into Jojo.
What the hell is this shit? Is this common throughout Jojo or is this just crunchyroll being a shit?

>>151896537
showing minors smoking is illegal in japan or something

>>151896537
Japan cant show smoking kids. Yes, Jotaro is 17 in SC.

This is annoying. I'm looking for the Golden Wind Volume 10 Post Scriptum which is where Araki mentions why he wrote Fugo out but the Tumblr that hosted the translated script no longer exists and nowhere else saved it, just linked to it. Did anyone here save it? I'd hate for it to be lost for the English fan base for historical reference.

>>151891548

Giorno's Jojo genes probably got fucked over by his mothers, though to be fair, he is also the youngest Jojo at 15, so I doubt he's stopped growing.

>>151896580
Don't worry, all Jojo is reedited in France, I'll see on Monday if I can buy the volume and then translate it if this can help.

>>151896073
>>151896135
>>151896580
does this work?

https://web.archive.org/web/20150407201422/http://yatose.tumblr.com/post/115589427467/post-scriptum-about-vento-aureo-hirohiko-araki

>>151896576
>>151896560
Well that was fast. Thanks fellas.

>>151887995
is part 5 really as shitty as everyone claims?

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>>151896641
Cool, thanks anon.

>>151896580
Thanks for trying, anon. Appreciate it.

>>151890883
>Those bookmarks
>Not editing out bullshit
>pronunciation deficit
Fuck me lad.

>>151896652
no it's good

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>>151887995

>narancia's chin
>fugo's lack of underwear
>everyone has sideways feet

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How did they go from this?

To this>>151887995
So much faggotry in this one

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>>151896704
Fugo wears a thong

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>>151896641
Yes, but fuck i hate how everyone on tumblr has to be special snowflake and edit their pages, hideous backgrounds and scrolls and buttons all over the place

>>151896680
NP sorry I couldn't find it.

>>151896641
Yes thank you you are a godsend.

what kind of setting would you like to see in future parts?

id like a pirate setting with fun ocean adventures, either modern or in like 1690. although id hate the inevitable comparison to one piece

>>151896794
I doubt Araki would go that far back and he's said before he wants the setting to be relatable or contemporary but the events to be the bizarre part, so I don't think he'd go for anything piratey.

>>151888308

what's PHF?

>The plot was that among Mista, Narancia, Fugo and Abbacchio there was a spy that was going to betray Giorno and Buccellati. At the beginning i planned out that the traitor would have been Fugo, but in the end i couldn’t do it. The grim mood that was with me while i was working on VA made me write stories that were getting little by little even more sinister, and i was getting annoyed at myself because of that. Besides, thinking about Buccellati’s feelings my heart was starting to ache. The betrayal of a dear friend isn’t something i can deal with and the only thought of it was making me sick. I was ready to accept any critic about me not having enough courage to write something like that, but i swear to God i didn’t want anyway to write something like that. Also, i can’t ignore the fact that Giorno was probably the one who should have killed Fugo and i was sure that something like that might have disappointed my young readers.
;_;

>>151896537
It's not illegal, but it's like getting a movie rated R or NC-17 in the states. Pushes back when you can show it, what mediums you can show it on, how you can advertise, who you can advertise with etc.
Self censorship of culturally sensitive topics is a big thing too.
Next Jojo it gets even worse. There is a shot where a hand injury gets blackbarred.

Guess it's somewhere between him sucking on a lollypop and just showing him smoking. Still sucks you out of the experience since you notice the censorship, but at least it doesn't damage the character.

>>151896838
id settle for a detective agency

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>>151896845

>>151896842
http://jojo.wikia.com/wiki/Purple_Haze_Feedback

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Why was this fight so good?

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>>151896878
>Noir Jojo

>>151896927
>stone mask out of nowhere

PLEASE let this be made canon.

>>151897044
It was pretty cool, even if the guy who uses it gets gibbed at the moment he uses it.

>>151896927
This honestly sounds really dumb. Fugo left Abbacchio and Narancia to die, why would they accept him back?

are there any translations for the light novels? I never knew about them but now I'm curious

>>151897127
read the novel faggot

>>151896751
Which Passione would u fuk

>>151897330
trish
all of them, I particularly like Giorno, Fugo, Narancia and Bruno

>>151897127
Well there's nothing he could do for Narancia but Abbacchio probably wouldn't have been donuted if Fugo was by his side.
Still wouldn't trust Fugo ever again myself though tqbh, nigga can shove his guilt up his loose ass

>>151897127
He didn't know they were going to die, only Mista and Bruno did. And Giorno accepts him back because;
A) he likes him
B) he doesn't want him to do something stupid and use his Stand for evil or joining another gang
C) the whole mission was constructed to evolve Fugo's Stand because Giorno was afraid after seeing Carne's Stand survive after death because of his anger and hate that Fugo would suffer the same fate and Purple Haze would become unkillable like B.I.G and roam the earth killing everything it finds. His Stand evolves and his virus' strength now scales with how angry he is, so if he gets mad and loses it or if his Stand survives after death the virus is so strong it attacks other viral cells and kills itself before it can leave the pod, neutering it and ending the threat of PH killing everyone if it survived his death. Giorno couldn't let Fugo know this because it would defeat the purpose and he wouldn't be able to change knowing it was a test, he had to want to change himself which proves his worth and Giorno offers him a place in the gang again. Also Giorno was being pressured by the Speedwagon Foundation into finding the last Stone Mask because they were worried proximity to it would awaken his latent vampire DNA (it wouldn't and Giorno is still fully human) and the Narcotics team that knew it's location were a bunch of psychos just as bad as Cioccolatta that he couldn't leave them alive, so it was like killing three birds with one stone.

>>151897244
Only one worth reading is PHF. Over Heaven fucks up one thing about DIO's character for every cool idea it had and the others are just garbage. 4th Another Day might be alright but it hasn't been translated.

>>151897330
Bruno > Abbacchio > Mista
The rest are babies and I don't play with babies.

>>151897127
>Fugo left why would they accept him back?

They don't. The novel is a Fugo redemption story where he copes with his guilt of leaving. One of the first scenes is Mista inviting Fugo to an open stadium (Fugo can't reach him there) to assign him a dangerous mission and threatening to shoot him if he tries any funny shit.

>>151897127
It IS really dumb but not for that reason. Buccellati explicitly said he wasn't forcing anyone to go with him to their probable deaths, and actively tried to discourage Narancia from doing so because he could see how scared it made him.

TL;DR, just about everything that VA established is spit on by PHF. Giorno is some asshole who forces his men to kill at gunpoint instead of using his charisma and eerily-accurate judgement to take command as an actual boss, La Squadra are portrayed as pathetic idiots with no depth or sympathy, Buccellati is an incompetent who doesn't know anything about his own men or what they do, Fugo and Abbacchio sneak out to murder children under Buccellati's nose, Mista is an unfunny and vindictive asshole who throws Buccellati under a bus, etc etc etc.

PHF is good for the OCs in it and Fugo, and pretty bad for everyone else. The author just threw in all this pointless edge that does nothing but take away all the charm and hope that VA had.

>>151897510
So essentially he read VA and misunderstood it completely.

Fucking speedreaders.

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>>151887995
39 episodes? or 48?

>>151897510
araki approved of this?

>>151897564
>>151897557

>15 year old child wants to rule a mafia organization

Giorno was just a chuuni.

>>151897557
It has a lot of drawbacks but it has a lot of positives too, I just wish the author hadn't written Araki's characters (sans Fugo) the way he had since they weren't even in it for long and most of them came off shitty because of it. Fugo's insight on Narancia was good for both of them, though.

>>151897564
Araki approved Jorge Joestar, I think he's just too polite (and too detached and uncaring) to say 'no' to fanworks.

>>151897603
Reminder that Giorno is STILL the most ambitious JoJo

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>>151897510
>Giorno is some asshole who forces his men to kill at gunpoint
>Buccellati is an incompetent who doesn't know anything about his own men or what they do
>Mista is an unfunny and vindictive asshole who throws Buccellati under a bus
Fuck I'm getting mad just thinking about it.
This sounds just as bad as Emo Dio in Over Heaven/Jorge Joestar.
I'm not even going to read it then. I really like the Part 5 characters (I don't care much about Fugo) and this kind of mischaracterization just gets under my skin.

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>>151896641
>This is why the goodbye scene at the quay of San Giorgio Maggiore on the Canal Grande in Venice happened, when Fugo leaves the scene (after that, thank to the release of the novel about Vento Aureo, and with the help of the author of it, i was able to explain how Fugo, even after he left, was still able to help the organization and his friends.).

Note that the novel he's talking about here is GioGio's Bizarre Adventure 2: Golden Heart, Golden Ring which was released shortly after VA ended and not Purple Haze Feedback, which only came out in 2011.

>>151897945
What is Giorno doing?

>>151896580
>>151896641
In case anyone here wants to look at the other translations, it appears they were moved to this blog
http://ryuujinzanba.tumblr.com
There's post-scriptums about Parts 3 and 4, and the Rohan one-shots

>>151897611
>Araki approved Jorge Joestar
You have a problem with this? It's a visionary work of genius.

>>151897871
He has his reasons but they're kind of a mess. You can tell that the author decided what the climax of the story would be first, and worked backwards to reach that point, and not very gracefully.
>Okay, I need Fugo's stand to evolve at a critical point showing that he's evolved as a person
>To make Fugo evolve as a person I'll have to throw him back into the action since he wouldn't seek it out himself
>To put Fugo back into the action I'll have to make Giorno and Mista bully him
The whole thing just comes off really forced and skeevy. In VA, the characters evolved and became better and more righteous people because they made the choice to and that's a big theme of the story, whereas Fugo doesn't get a choice and his every action was just part of some fucked-up scheme Giorno had planned out from the start.

>>151897995
He needs to pee

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>>151894637

I hate how Bruno died just to legitimate Giorno's promotion... I hate Giorno in general.

>>151898172
t. Abbacchio

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>>151898030
>When i was a kid i used to argue a lot with my little sisters, who are twins, and every time i was arguing with one of them, at some point, the one i wasnt arguing with would start crying out of the blue. “Why are you crying!?” i used to ask her, very angry. But whatever was the reason, the one who always ended up grounded was me! The truth was that my sisters decided to team up together so thay every time, no matter what i would tell my parents, i was always the one in the wrong! I swear that everytime i hear about someone who ends up in prision without doing anything bad i always tear up!
>I used to pray for those brats to disappear, and at some point i came to believe that i was victim of some curse since people always ended up misunderstanding what i was trying to say! Even when in school something strange had happened, the teachers always ended up thinking that i was the culprit, so i started to think that maybe everything was my fault and also because of they way i usually behaved…!
>It looks like my grandma, when i first left Sendai to move to Tokyo to become a mangaka, everytime she heard about a homicide that happened in the capital she used to sit in front of her altar and pray that the culprit wasnt me… I really dont understand why… I think that no one in my family was able to really get me, and maybe not even my readers are able to do that!

What did he mean by this ?

>>151897330
A
BBA
CCHI
OH

>>151898218
kek

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>>151898112
Honestly, as much as there's some things in PHF that sound interesting (like Sheila.E and a story focused on giving Fugo some character), that just sounds absolutely awful and distasteful to the characters, especially Giorno's character.
I really don't think I'll be reading it. Over Heaven was unpleasant enough as it was.

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>>151898172
You died honorably and your sacrifice was appreciated, Abbacchio. Rest in peace knowing that your actions ushered in a better, brighter world.

>>151898342
>girl

>>151898342
>better, brighter world

>>151888257
Rolling Stone predicted his death will be at the coliseum, and fate wouldn't let him die until then.

>>151898172
Giorno is simply a better leader. He is more inspiring and calm than that overly emotional bitchboi Bruno.

>>151896716
SC was made in 89-92
It was still the time when Shonens were mostly big guys looking strong

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>>151898218
He made his misunderstanding from his grandmother into Kira
And all the bullshit with his childhood curse being the Joestar curse
That or its completely irrelevant to jojo and all he was doing was living up some nostalgia

>>151898424
The team was doing great before meating Giorno

>>151898331
Shelia.E is good, Fugo is good, Murolo is good, the villains are good, with Kocaqi being particularly great. But Giorno and the other canon characters are really off even though they don't make large appearances in it at all. I'd call it a good story overall if I didn't know anything about the VA characters, but since I do it comes off as mixed-quality fanfiction.

Don't feel obliged to read it, I'm entirely with you on shit like Over Heaven being the worst.

>>151898331
Or you can just read it and form your own opinions of the characters.

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>>151898492
>meating
Hah Boipussi

>>151897564
Araki doesn't really seem to care about things like EOH or Jorge Joestar. He seems to be too polite to just turn down these JoJo fanfictions submitted to him.

It reminds me of Charlie Stross's stance on the subject
>"I do not mind you writing fanfic using my characters and sharing it with your friends unless you do so in a manner that f**s with my ability to earn a living. I am not a precious sparkly unicorn who is obsessed with the purity of his characters — rather, I am a glittery and avaricious dragon who is jealous of his steaming pile of gold. If you do not steal the dragon's gold, the dragon will leave you alone. Offer to bring the dragon more gold and the dragon will be your friend"

While I don't think Araki thinks like this, his stance is probably similar. It's not like these LNs interfere with his work or his ability to make a living so if anything it's just more publicity.

what would happen if diavolo lost his hair?

>>151898424
Bruno
>nah he knew what he was getting into, let him die
Giorno
>nah this nigga's not dying as long as i can help it

Bruno a shit

>>151897564
No
>>151897611
>Araki approved Jorge Joestar
No

The only light novel he's ever acknowledged is the first part 5 light novel

>>151898391
The sun came up at the most dramatic moment possible in the Diavolo fight, just like it did in White Album.

His name literally means 'Day'.

>>151898553
So the novels were released illegally without his permission?

>>151898553
Doesn't he have to approve stuff? I mean, he drew covers for things like Over Heaven and so on, it'd seem monstrously unfair if he was contracted to do so even if he hated the work attached to his own franchise.

>>151898564
Abacchio's death caused the sun to rise?

>>151898492
>The team was doing nothing before meating Giorno
ftfy

>>151898553
Acknowledge =/= approve.
He obviously knew about their existence since he drew covers for all of them. He must have approved. Even DP needs Araki's approval on certain aspects.
It doesn't necessarily mean he knows what goes on in them or that he even read them. And if he does, then he just doesn't care.

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Choose

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>>151898752
It will always be
BOSSU for me man

>>151898752
Diavolo gives me the urge to pounce no matter what.

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WHO HERE /RESIDENT JOJO: MORIOH CHO/ ?????

>>151898548
Bruno made tough calls because that's what a leader has to do sometimes. And even then he cared more deeply for his team (and they for him) than Giorno did, going to greater risks for them (Jumping out of the train, refusing to order them to follow him, jumping down after Secco as a test, fighting him till he went blind and deaf, and finally ending SCR's weirdness knowing perfectly well he'd die the moment he did) than Giorno, who always had a backup plan every time he seemed to be putting himself in danger. Buccellati expected to die when he pulled his absolute madman stunts, when Giorno exposed himself to Purple Haze he planned on Illuso panicking and trying to escape and set up a trap to cure himself, and when he got his hands eaten by Notorious B.I.G he'd already grown a new one.

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Do you think Araki ever took inspiration from American comic books ?

>>151898752
Do you guys ever think that when fem Valentine pleasures herself does it go to an alternate universe?
>Multidimensional orgasms

>>151898920
Probably, he seems a Westaboo in general. And didn't he reference some comic-book characters like Spider-Man in Bohemian Rhapsody?

>>151898938
Does Diavolo feel it when Doppio faps?
Did Jonathan feel it when DIO fucked dragon dildos?

>>151898995
>>151898938
I want this to be a resounding yes

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>>151898995
>'I want you to fist me so hard Jonathan feels it in Heaven, my friend'

>>151893995
Part 5 was skipped by the color crew. And it has shit translations, and without color some frames are gantz teir "wtf is going on". But I still enjoyed it.

>>151899076
If Vanilla Ice fucked Dio would he be gentle or rough

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>>151899111
>Vanilla Ice fucking DIO
>Not the other way around

>>151899111
>implying DIO wasn't the one scooping his shit out

>>151898920
He acknowledges the existence of Superman and Spider-Man in the series so maybe.
I think maybe Josuke's character was partially influenced by Spider-Man.
But in general he seems to take more inspiration from movies instead of comic books.

who colors the manga? who has that much time on their hands?

What's the point in watching /reading JJBA after DIO died?

>>151899178
SHiueisha officially colors them.

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>>151899111
>Implying Vanilla Ice was his friend

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>>151899178
It's obviously the same guy who did it without the color.
It's why part 8 is on a monthly release.

>>151893990
fuck off, I haven't read part 5 but there's no way that happens

>>151889403
Gappy (Breakdance)

>>151899271
But Pucci was just that, his friend. He wouldn't sexualize his friend. Vanilla Ice was probably his stripper and cumdump.

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>>151899290

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>>151899237
>implying he ever truly dies

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>>151899298
GET
DOWN

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why is Doppio so cute and molestable
Narancia is second best

>>151899326
>Implying fisting is sexual

>>151899355
Does he comes back after part 3?

>>151899383
GROOVIER

>>151899383
I swear to god if Gappys theme is just Josuke's break down but its get down imma fucking lose it

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>>151899429
>>151899426
GET DOWN
GET DOWN
POP THAT SHIT BACK

>>151899423
No but he's responsible for some events that happen in 4-6

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>>151899395
Doppio is built for protection, not molesting.

>>151899470
>Diavolo's eyes
That's Bruno

>>151898920
>Jojo will never get a tribute comic made by western comic book ilustrators

Also, I'm thinking of making a jojo rip to post on siivagunner: http://poal.me/bopfxm

>>151899395
>every character in this image is gay
Really penetrates the brainpucci.

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>>151899505
>siivagunner

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>>151899505

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>>151899505
Anon...

>>151899461
If there's not even a sigle MUDA it's not worth it

>>151899290
But it does tho


This is why you Wryyyyy'd the mango anon

>>151899549
>Author clearly traced two completely different styles for the first and second panel of the same guy

>>151899552
>not "If there's not even a sigle MUDA it's useless "

yare yare daze

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>>151899423
Kind of. He does die for good in Part 3 but his influence is all over the series, basically. His son is the main character of Part 5 and he appears in flashbacks in Part 6. And his alternate universe counterparts appear in Part 7.
But still, the fun part of reading JoJo is to watch Araki continuously experiment with more and more types of character archetypes and stories. After Part 3, he writes villains that are opposites, or similar, to DIO. All of them are great, and you might even find them to be even better.
Keep reading and find out for yourself.

>>151899551
>>151899549
Thats more a spit in the face to Araki honestly.
But it is flattering to have your popular idea stolen

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>>151899552
>if theres not a single MUDA
AHAHAHAHA, HOW DOES 7 PAGES SOUND TO YOU?

>>151899552
7
PAGE
LONG
MUDA