In This Corner of the World earns 1 billion yen

>>151826075
I refuse to feel guilty for the nukes.

>>151826075
Of course the Japs would go watch a movie where they paint themselves as the victims of war. Should've sent them more nukes back then.

>>151826075
Where?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_anime_films

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>>151826075
BDs when? I can't even find much of the translated manga.

>>151826285
Are you stupid?

>>151826407
Do you want to say me something?
1 billion yen = $100.000.000

>>151826664
A billion yen is ten million dollars dumbass

That's great. BD when.
>>151826327
I thought Madokami have the translated manga?

>>151826770
This is not a huge success, then.

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By getting to 1 billion yen so quickly, will it beat you-know-who?

>>151826327
It's on KM.

>>151826184
>>151826244
Fuck off, samefag.

>>151826921
No, but it can beat Koe no Katachi.

Do anime movies that aren't Ghibli finally get more successful?

Arguably the most important World War anime yet. Possibly better than Paku-san's Grave of the Fireflies even.

When are Japs gonna make an anime movie about all the chink and korean civilians they murdered and tortured?

>>151826075
why are they making tv anime again?

>>151828232
You've seen it? What makes it that way?

>>151828418
As soon as Americans make a movie about the My Lai massacre.

>>151826823
It's questionable whether we'll have a BD release even a year after it leaves theaters now that they've commited to animating 30 min of extra footage.
They're probably want to re-release the complete version on theaters as well.

>>151826888

Nice damage control retard.

>>151828586
>murder of a few hundred Vietnamese vs. killing of over a million Chinese

>>151828518
Otakus are easy money for every studio, unlike realifers.

>>151826075
I'm really excited to see this film. I was waiting all last year for it.

>>151826921
Damn, this movie destroy the competition. So boring.

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>>151826986
No, you. Enjoy your guilt propoganda.

>>151828586
They made a movie about My Lai with Harrison Ford in 1975

>>151828418
They just enjoy playing victims. Let them be.

Why do movies like this trigger /a/ (/pol/) so much?
If you read the manga you'd know it's not propaganda at all.

>>151829432
Because its fun to rip on the silly Japanese for eating our uranium even though I enjoy their media.

>>151826921
It's the fourth best-selling Japanese film of all time.

Meanwhile, Moana has already made more money total than both Spirited Away and Kimi no Na wa.

>>151826075

>Meanwhile Koe no Katachi has stopped earning shit after getting more screenings

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

KyoAnusfags will try to defend this.

>>151831097
Koe no Katachi for smart and mature people, not your mainstream shit

>>151831097
It stopped earning because it's old.

>>151831097
Why didn't they release Koe no Katachi internationally? I figure it would've been successful given it's "bullying is bad" message.

Based fucking Mappa

>>151829432
Americans are dumb and self centered and fat.

>>151827021
I can't see it beating Koe no Katachi. It's already out of the top 10 at 1 Bil. While KnK left that position after 2.1 Bil. Kono Sekai is big but not KnK big.

>>151831980
It's still in the top 10 but yeah I don't see it making more than 1.5 billion

>>151827657
Excluding the outlier( Kimi no Na wa) non Ghibli anime movies that are huge successes( top 100 movies in Japan) are either Hosoda or Anno or mainstream franchises like One Piece or Conan. Nothing else comes close. Also to enter the top 100 you need more than 5Bil Yen which is really beyond what a 62 screen opener can achieve.

>>151831097
But it did earn 200 million yen after leaving the top 10 for a month. It went from 2.1 Bil to 2.3 Bil.

>>151829432
This.
The main characters are normal people in wartime, that are too busy trying to get by day to day to care about who's in the right and who conducted what atrocities.
There are soldiers and warships depicted, but they aren't glorified or made in martyrs. The manga seems to be melancholic that they even have reason to exist.
War sucks for normal people everywhere. This just happens to be a Japanese story.

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>>151831772
t. person whose country was reduced to rubble in WW2 just like the japs

kizu got blown the fuck out

>>151832400
This kind of rationale may sound reasonable if you are talking about a modern society but certainly NOT in WW2.

These "normal" Japanese people were supporting a militarist regime that slaughters other people and invades other countries and by "trying to get by" they are indirectly sponsoring massive wars. By focusing on the victimization of the people (which was largely brought by themselves), it completely dodges the moral responsibility and feeds into the "we did nothing wrong" mentality.

By the same logic US today certainly bears no moral responsibility whatsoever on the nukes or any other shit it stirs up.

>>151828666
>two wrongs makes a right

>>151833451
If you kill your enemy, they win.

>>151826075
Really interesting. Didn't think it'd be so successful, been waiting for it for a while because of the art

Story is your typical post war/post nukes wank, desu, nothing you won't find done better somewhere else

>>151833716
Good way to tell me you know nothing about the story

>>151834208
It's about Minami who refuses to a guy and then dies, right?

And then her tomboy niece.

>>151826244
>Of course the Japs would go watch a movie where they paint themselves as the victims of war.
That's literally every WWII japanese movies.

>>151828586
So, you haven't seen pretty much every Vietnam movie.

Even forrest gump shows a mini-gun operator shooting civilians for no fucking reason.

The Japanese always want to make themselves to be the victims while american directors and movie producers can't waste an opportunity to make our troops look bad and PTSD'd to hell.

>>151831128
I'm actually more excited about koe no katachi than your name.

I hope they make an anime to get the bad performance of the movie off the story.

>>151837513
>Even forrest gump shows a mini-gun operator shooting civilians for no fucking reason.
Huh? I thought that was Full Metal Jacket

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>>151837513
I mean, Japan lost the war.

>>151837675
They started it

>>151837730
FDR wanted to get involved in the war anyway because he knew it would help the American economy.

It was a political move to get involved, everyone should know this.

>>151828418
Korean killed chink tho

>>151837826
That doesn't change the fact that the japs crossed the ocean blew our shit up, starting the war

>>151833379
>every single civilian including the marginalized ones has to answer for the whims of the statesmen
guess how i can tell you aren't very good at history

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>>151837877
Yeah but it doesn't matter, because we nuked them twice and they lost.

It makes a lot more sense for US filmmakers to make "guilt" bait, rather than Japanese filmmakers to make "guilt" bait when they weren't the ones who dropped the nukes.

>>151838051
>implying dropping nukes was worse than the atrocities they commited in mainland asia

Nanking would like an apology.

>>151833379
Japanese women in that wartime were not responsible because they did not have voting rights

>>151838219
I'm not defending Japan during wartime etc. But I really think on the grander scale dropping a nuke on any civilization is quite possibly the worst crime a society can commit.
Nanking was graphically seriously disturbing, but is it really worse than killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people?

Maybe we're so desensitized to murder at this point, it doesn't really matter though.

>>151828418
>anime

Never since the target audience is children, but for anyone who wants a Japanese movie that deals with that, check out The Human Condition trilogy. It even stars Nakadai.

>>151829432
If it were an adaptation of Town of Evening Calm, then some more of the shitposting would actually make sense, but it doesn't and it isn't. Looking forward to watching it when I can.

>>151833166
>t.
Fuck off /int/.

>>151833379
>These "normal" Japanese people were supporting a militarist regime that slaughters other people and invades other countries and by "trying to get by" they are indirectly sponsoring massive wars

>be this anon
>has beautiful waifu and a stable job during tough time
>Too busy with his job to maintain his position to have time with waifu.
>His waifu left him for his rich boss
>Is bitterly cucked, but he couldn't do anything about it.
>He could have get his waifu back, but too bad he's just "trying to get by."

>>151837513
Japan is one of the most emasculated advanced nations. I don't think they make this shit to make other people sorry for them, more like sorry for themselves. I mean the manga author certainly didn't think she would have this much exposure when she originally did the story.

>>151837730
It's more like their army started it, which wasn't entirely overlapping with their central government.

>>151838438
> dropping a nuke on any civilization is quite possibly the worst crime a society can commit.

ROFL

Hiroshima wasn't even as deadly as the firebombing of Tokyo m8.

>>151839502
>ROFL
Not him, but arguably the long term suffering and death over long periods of time and over generations does a real fucking number on people. Counting it in lives is just idiotic.

>>151837513
Isn't there a a regulation for burgers that they can't make their military look too bad or something?

>>151837877
Wasn't that because the US was already embargoing their shit?

>>151826075
Is this the anime that Anno said was garbage?

>>151826075
All I know is if the film is as good as the song, I think it'll be a really good film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8IYZkoWodE

>>151837513
>american directors and movie producers can't waste an opportunity to make our troops look bad and PTSD'd to hell.
And there are as much military glorified film of American heroism, which voiced louder than their pessimism of war. Do you really expect the common public would care anything about the loser's point of view.

American rarely voice their guilt for anything, and that is a cultural fact.

>>151837877
>starting the war
War was there for years, you just joined when the toughest time passed and allies did all the dirty work.

>>151837513
That's your problem. It has nothing to do with Japan and it's good they don't soil the achievements, deeds and sacrifices of their ancestors. Just because "we" here in the West piss on our blood, forgot where we came from and do the opposite of honouring our ancestors actions doesn't mean the Japanese need to do the same.
Not that this is even correct, your impression of the average Japanese connection with this topic seems totally wrong.

>>151826075
Thanks OP, I heard of this movie months ago, but I forgot what name it had.

>>151826184
You're not supposed to.

>>151833379
I think the manga tells a different narrative. It shows how the population is mostly brainwashed into believing Japan's victory is assured, and asked to sacrifice everything for their country. And yet in the end, after loosing their loved ones in the front lines and enduring bombardment after bombardment, the government surrenders, the American demons arrive... and the live continue as if the war had never happened. If something the manga shows the complete disconcert of the Japanese population, being completely lost and directionless after the war, while wondering what was the purpose of all the misery they have suffered for years.

>>151826184
you haven't bombed hard enough yet

>>151837362
same shit with hollywood garbage

>>151832048
Doraemon or Yokai watch easily can

>>151828666
Yeah as if that removes Amerifats guilt

>>151833166
t. trumptard

>>151833379
>US today certainly bears no moral responsibility
Civilians of-course don't. Are you retard?

>>151844923
>mainstream franchises

>>151847376
Doraemon is more maistream than OP or Conan

>>151838219
>embargo=/=Blockade
You can't declare war and attack a country simply because they refuse to do business with you.

>>151839730
No. Freedom of speech.
The directors or writes can make whatever the hell they want.
Depending how far they go, the people may criticize them and push back. The military, especially the troops, are highly respected here. So, directors have to be careful.

The only thing the Japanese did wrong was not completely wiping out the Korean and Chinese.

>>151840245
really?
Have you seen Heaven and Earth (1993) about a vietnamese women who fights for the vietcong and ends up in a relationship with a drunk beating marine husband?

How about Letters to Iwo Jima?

All these are American movies from the perspective of the losers. The Japs could never bring themselves to admit their mistakes and make us look human like in any of their films.

Even the movies that glorified American Heroism have underlying pacifist themes, and show the negative impacts of war combat on the troops.

>>151840998
Reflecing on our past mistakes, does not mean that we have to disrespect our ancestors.

I'm very much against the potrayal of marines by movies produced by Oliver stone and the like, but let's not kid ourselves and act like mistakes weren't made in that time.

The war brought tremendous strains in our society.

Japan went to a war that pretty much destroyed their society. They had to restart under a hugely western and American made society. From suffrage to educational reforms.

I want /pol/ to leave.

>>151833379
by the same logic, do "normal" U.S. people bear moral responsibility on Iraq War? for sure they are indirectly sponsoring the war...but i see everyone blames Bush, not themselves.

>>151844860
No it isn't. There are plenty of American movies that actually deal with moral conflicts and dilemmas that troops have to go through. Fears of injustices and war crimes being committed. Whether they did the right thing or not, PTSD, etc.

Jap movies are literally children walking through destroyed cities crying for their mommies, while the evil americans are bombing their shit.
Their movies always start in 1940 and either skip the entire 5 years or only show small instances where the Americans bombed their shit.

I have yet to see a japanese movie where you actually see troops going through combat, invading shit and killing people. Going through the dilemmas that you normally see in other movies.

City of life and death, letter to iwo jima, and the like. Are american and Chinese productions not japanese by the way.

>>151839730
American military gives Hollywood military hardware so that their movies are cheaper in exchange that they're not allowed to make the military look bad.

Hollywood can make whatever they want, but they'll have to procure their own tanks and shit.

>>151844860
What about The Thin Red Line

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>>151850016
>He thinks American Sniper is an anti-Troops propaganda

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>>151850016
What a biased pile of shit you just spewed.

subhuman post don't do it again

>>151850100
Where in the hell do I even mention American sniper?

American movies is a very patriotic movie. But even that movie shows the conflicts and dilemmas that some marines have to go through in combat. The famous scene with the kid is one. He obviously shots a kid to protect this unit.

When would the japs show something like that? Never. Unless the kid getting shot is the actual japanese kid. Because they love victimizing themselves.

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>>151850168
And Americans love painting themselves as heroes.

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>>151826184
>>151826244
>>151833166
sasuga americajin

>>151850143
No argument made.
Calling biased is not an argument.

I have watched quite a few japanese movies. The only decent Japanese movie about the war is the movie detailing the life of Yamamoto. Which actually shows the japanese attacking pearl harbor and being warned of the possible ramifications of their actions. But the movie doesn't even deal with much of the war as yamamoto is killed in 1943.

I for one fully look forward to an adaptation of Bulgakov's "White Guard" but for the IJA

>>151850194
I never felt like the guys in Apocalypse now, or Full metal Jacket were being portrayed as heroes.

There is certainly American heroism movies, but there is other movies quite critical of the wars.

Japan doesn't have those. They'd rather forget it ever happen, and whenever they decide to go over the period is rather the bombings or American campaign instead of their empire building before and even during the war.

>>151850325
They don't need to, Kimchi are working full steam, making movies about that so they can whine for another decade.

>>151840998
If "your ancestors" are literal mass murder xenophobes then I think a little look at it in a more sobering way would do well.

Toei Doga sacked Takahata's original scenario for Horus which dealt with the oppression of the Ainu. There's certainly a strand of conservative groups in Japan who do not want to admit any wrongdoings.

I'm happy this managed to do well after finding out that the director, Katabuchi, spent only a dollar a day to feed his family while working on this.

Oh, and Kotringo OST. Good stuff.

>>151851120
>If "your ancestors" are literal mass murder xenophobes
Totally.

>There's certainly a strand of conservative groups in Japan who do not want to admit any wrongdoings.
How ignorant are you? Do you believe everyone sees the world like you do? Why would you admit to something you don't consider to be any kind of wrongdoing?

>>151851309
I posted the Takahata anecdote precisely to illustrate that there ARE people in Japan who do reflect about and critique their cultural heritage. It seems it went straight over your head.

And you are right, they won't admit something they don't consider bad. Just like a psychopath won't admit to the moral fault of comitting murder.

>>151851278
You're happy that a retard mistreated his family for a job?

>>151849877
>from the perspective of the losers
The Vietcong won, though.

>>151833379
>implying you could speak out against the Japanese military as a citizen

A country as an identity can be responsible for different things, but to blame citizens who didn't really have a part in it is stupid. At that point you sound like an old man who hates all X people because some other people from the same ethnic group did something in the past that you don't like.

>>151851671
Nothing wrong with being passionate about your craft.

>>151851788
Everything wrong with dragging your family with you.

>>151851671
Nah, I'm happy something he worked so hard on managed to become quite a financial success despite under-performing initially

>>151851809
It'd be a bit unbecoming to pin the blame on the director when it's an issue that's more emblematic of working in the anime industry itself (and probably the country's work culture).

>>151838176
>Korean flag

The hell?

>>151851488
You're literally not using your brain.
Why would someone "show the oppression of the Ainu" if he is Japanese? Do you even use your brain?
Just because here in the West we whip ourselves for oppressing the foreign aliens in our countries and remember what terrible things our ancestors have apparently done to the poor Africans doesn't mean that everyone is in a state of self-pity and mutilation.

>>151826075
Omedetou.

>>151852007
fuck off you worthless pathetic autist

>122 posts

Oh wow, I wonder if people are discussing the manga in this thr-

>same old WW2 blame/guilt thread

Right, how silly of me.

>>151851710
lel. OK, you got me.
let's say then, The perspective of the enemy

>>151851761
I would imagine that there are things that we, as humans beings, consider as wrongdoings. And I'm pretty sure that invading other countries and killing millions of civilians counts as one.

>>151852143
>movies is about WWII
>Nobody here has actually watched the movie
>Not much to discuss apart from the trailers, art and manga
What else is there to discuss?

>>151852203
whoops, meant to quote this post
>>151851309

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>>151852215
>Not much to discuss apart from the trailers, art and manga

My point is that aside from the few people in this thread who're aware the manga even exists, it's depressing how discussion of any story set in WW2 Japan always devolves to insults about who should be blamed and held guilty rather than the merits of the story itself.

It's not as if the manga isn't translated to English.

>>151852304
But nobody is really arguing that.
We are arguing how the Japanese in basically every movie they make, they victimize themselves.

So, yes. Every movie that comes out will continue to spark this discussion, because it only reinforces the trend that Japanese WWII movies are intended to get cheap crocodile tears instead of actually reflecting in the period.

It's not like this story hasn't been told before. How many movies of housewives and mothers during the war are out there? tons.

>>151852057
Why wouldn't he? Unless you're gonna sit there and factually deny the Takahata thing, then you're just yelling at clouds while ignoring the reality that yes, some Japanese people are also "in a state of self-pity and mutilation" (what kind of /pol/crap is that even)

>>151852374
>nobody is really arguing that.

This entire thread is specifically about whether or not the Japanese feel sufficiently guilty over their responsibility for the war, as evidenced by their popular memory of the war in literature, film, manga, etc.

>We are arguing how the Japanese in basically every movie they make, they victimize themselves.

This is exactly what I mean. But hey, people will discuss what interests them. Who am I to complain, really? Carry on.

>>151852374
Pretty much this
I don't people think that current Japan should feel guilty about WWII. But it sure as hell would be nice if they stopped with the self-victimization in a conflict they started.

>>151852374
So go away and watch something you find interesting. What is it that you fucking want? For Japan to make a movie about all the wrongdoings of all their soldiers? How they invaded China and murdered thousands of innocent civillians?
You probably won't get it so why have this discussion every single time? Every thread, you get the same thing. Every single time.

>>151852477
>Why wouldn't he
It's not about "why would someone" but about the fact that you're expecting ridiculous things. The Japanese have no reason to include this topic in their media and expecting them to do so is your problem, not Japans.

>>151852785
I never asked for them to do anything. I just argued at your imperialist sentiment that "it's good Japan honours their ancestors" in order to dismiss and downplay genocide and mass murder.

>>151852215
>What else is there to discuss?
The trailers, art and manga, as you literally just suggested. There's no reason to always jump into this "fuck Japan" shit every time there's an anime related to WW2.

>>151852374
>they victimize themselves
so what? I dont see that, more or less I dont give a shit about it, let alone wanting to defend them.

You are triggered because you allow your own perception to cloud your judgement, well good for you, however, there are people who DON'T agree with you! And that is just another perspective other anons are shoving it down in your throat.

>>151852915
That's what this placed is for, discussion.
Also, I'm not letting anything cloud my judgement. This is my opinion from seeing numerous japanese movies regarding the war, not just anime but live actions. If I was wrong, someone would have already provided a movie that was the opposite of what we are talking about, but they haven't because there isn't.

Now, you don't care about this matter, good for you. but telling other to shut up isn't really in the spirit of the whole website.

>>151852867
Fuck off retard, no one is dismissing genocide. I see this was your prefered direction to head in from the get go. It's always genocide and mass murder, isn't it?
Regardless of what I think of this topic in particular, which isn't relevant, there is no implication of such a thing. Your stupid ass thinks every Japanese soldier walked into China and killed the first innocent bystanders they came across. What a stupid and ignorant view.
I can not see how someone could possibly consider the phrase "it's good Japan honours their ancestors" to be a negative thing, let alone imperialist in thought but I'm assuming your ancestors were hermits?

It's pointless though, isn't it? It's alien to me how so many people, and so often, can get so angry and obsessed with the way Japanese media works. Every single thread, every single time this devolves into some sort of utterly pointless wankfest of one's morals in order to feel better.

>>151849836
If they had won, I'm curious of what nowadays Japs would be look like then. Nothing ends well with those who once conquered China in history. That's the real kind of cultural genocide you could think of.

>>151853174
>but telling other to shut up isn't really in the spirit of the whole website.
It seem like you dont know how this place work

alright then, how about you keep consistency to the intended anime. Have you watched it yet anon? care for giving us an essay about your wholehearted criticism of victimized nips in this movie? provide evidences that you have actually seen it, otherwise you're just trying hard to bait.

>>151853663
Nobody here has watched it, but it's the same comfy looking, tearjerker, japanese family under evil american bombardment, movie. The trailer is enough.

>>151826244
Why is it so hard to understand that civilians are pretty much always victims in modern conflicts ? Imperial Japan being a cunt country didn't mean their people deserved to get bombed

>>151826921
Stop posting that because it's already a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139