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I'm going to dump some and you're going to enjoy it!
Author: Morioka Hiroyuki
Artist: Yonemura Kouichirou
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>>151776711
Fucking Abh. The Four Nations Alliance are the true heroes.
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>>151776768
Around elves, watch yourselves.
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>>151776644
Is this a new manga?
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>>151777012
>>151777014
Fairly old, actually. Started serialization in 2012, but hasn't really been picked up by any group. Nayukilove has translated chapters 2 and 3 after it was in scanlation hell with only the first chapter translated since 2013. Hoping to get some interest in it going, seeing as it's really one of the better series to come out of Japan in a while.
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>>151777061
It at least gives a vaguely(?) better rationale for the Abh conquering humans than the original I remember. It seemed to be unmentioned in the original manga aside from "the four nations is dicks to the empire," and "we conquer humans for shits and giggles because the empire demands it."
I remember three tanks I had when I was a middle schooler from Tokyopop and loved it a lot.
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>>151777466
Is this even a business deal for the Abh? They wouldn't have given three shits over who's the boss so long as the planet accepted their rule by hook or crook, right?
I can't help but feel Rock Linn goes, "make me the lord in exc--," and the Abh are like, "Sure, whatever, just surrender."
I mean, they seemed to be going to surrender ANYWAYS. Is this all just Rock Linn going "might as well guarantee myself nobility" in this?
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>>151777544
More than anything, the Abh simply seem to be trying to cut of interstellar travel. To lock people into their own solar systems as much as possible. They don't care about planets, because their society lives primarily in space.
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>>151777601
That's what they said in the anime. They're still dicks for their Holier-than-thou attitude though.
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>>151777601
>the Abh simply seem to be trying to cut of interstellar travel.
Is there more reason as to why, if you know?
It was a long long time since I read the Tokyopop manga and light novel.
Both never quite fleshed out the Abh beyond dropping the explanation that they were once an artificially-created slave race by some human(?) empire of old that they took over and because they're perfect space elves live in a perfectly ordered mighty empire of beauty.
And for some reason they like keeping conquered space-states in highly-controlled little blocks (which economically, doesn't make the greatest of sense?).
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>>151777666
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>>151777688
>(which economically, doesn't make the greatest of sense?
Makes perfect sense militarily. Keep your potential enemies separated, divide and conquer.
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>>151777688
>reason
Something about permanent peace for all of humanity, if I remember correctly. About how if everyone have interstellar travel it'll only lead to conflicts.
>>151777688
>artificially-created slave race
I thought they were meant for exploration and surveying new systems?
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>>151777804
>I thought they were meant for exploration and surveying new systems?
That's probably what it was. It's been over a decade since I last even remembered Crest of the Stars existed.
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>>151777671
>They're still dicks for their Holier-than-thou attitude though.
Isn't their entire social system built around "pride" or something? They glorify that attitude. I can only imagine how odd their social interaction must be if the social alpha is probably the biggest stick-in-the-ass upturned-nose dick in the room.
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>>151777926
>those panel 6 eyes
Huh. Jinto would be a 10/10 qt3.14 if he was actually a girl instead.
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>>151777951
You sayin' he's not already?
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>>151777978
>You sayin' he's not already?
Of course not. He's the son of a filthy traitor to humanity. We should commence space piracy onhis anusto restore human independence.
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>>151777918
It was? I don't really remember much except about Abh society except being angry, angry about space elves. No wonder the Empress was such a bitch toward the Alliance's diplomats.
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>>151778089
Laffiel makes a relative deal about it somewhere about Jinto manning up for some reason (I think it was early on, since it's where she starts to like/respect him). She says he has a "lot of pride."
It may have been part of the light novel clarifying that they do respect a person's sense of pride however; the appendix for the light novels was excellent for getting a greater hold on the setting.
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>>151778291
waifu enter stage let
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>>151778373
/end chapter 1. Will continue chapter 2.
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>>151778373
well, well
this artist has made Laffiel quite UNFF
Tight in all the right places.
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>>151778408
Credits page. Chapter 2 was done by Nayukilove.
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>>151777429
Why's this nigga so mad about space elves when he's got Vulcan in his blood? Lookit his ears
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>>151778134
I see.
> the appendix for the light novels was excellent for getting a greater hold on the setting.
That sound fun, guess I'll give the light novel a go. Thanks.
>>151778408
Laffiel's eyes scares me.
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>>151778466
>Laffiel's eyes scares me.
The artist did make them have that uncanny valley big-eyed Troll Dolls have.
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>>151778592
You see, this is a character who knows to never trust an elf.
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>>151778623
>You see, this is a character who knows to never trust an elf.
They're all pedophiles and rapists afterall. How many human cradles have been robbed by horny elves?
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>>151778706
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This rendition of CoS is great. The art is hit or miss here and there but it's well polished. However adult Jinto unnerves the fuck out of me. I keep seeing Elijah Wood Frodo Baggins because of his curly hair and the shape of his face.
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>>151778909
I shall call thee CUTE
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>>151778967
This dorky elf waifu smile is too much for my heart.
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>>151778909
>>151778967
Now that's cute.
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You know what I like about the manga? No abnormally large foreheads!
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>>151779133
>middle-right
The perfect faces just keep coming.
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>>151779397
/end chapter 2. Starting chapter 3.
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Why are the Abh such Mary Sues?
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>>151779686
>Lets question this young woman who I just met about where babies come from
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>>151779921
cute
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>>151779941
She's so expressive compare to the anime version, must be the blushing.
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>>151780011
troll.jpg
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>>151779941
The OVA of her parents meeting needs to be done in this style.
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>>151780056
Her hiding under her blanket is adorable.
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>>151780166
A CUTE
And that concludes chapter 3, and all of this manga that is currently translated into English. I hope everyone liked it, I certainly want to see more of it.
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2017-01-03 07:53:05
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>>151780190
Thank you. That was fun, I like that the Abh are more expressive than in the anime. Nice ship design too.
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>>151780190
thanks for dumping
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>>151780190
Thanks for dumping; hope the rest of it gets picked up soon.
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I loved the anime, but something about the art style of the manga rubs me the wrong way.
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>>151780543
I'm the opposite, the art style of the anime put me off, but I love the manga. It might just be that Yonemura has similar line art to Inoue Kiyoshirou.
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I thought this was noscanlationsever territory?
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (ID: !249JSUpBDk)
2017-01-03 08:04:25
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>>151780543
I kind of prefer the manga's style, the faces looks kind of weird in the anime for me.
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>>151780611
It has been for like 5 years now. Nayukilove has started translating some chapters recently though. I don't know how consistent they're going to be, or how many chapters they intend to do though.
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>>151780636
BRING ME TO YOUR LEADER, WE COME IN PEACE.
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Question is the manga still ongoing right now?
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>>151780688
It started serialization in 2012, so I would assume yes.
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>>151780688
I honestly don't know, there's 4 or 5 volumes out, so it's either finished or very close to finished, seeing as the original is only 3 novels.
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>>151780686
>Abh
>Peace
That's a lie.
>>151780688
From the Japanese wiki page, aye. It's still serialize in COMIC Meteor.
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Well, time for race treachery.
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>>151780636
The anime did not age well
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2017-01-03 08:18:31
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>>151780770
Did the original novels ended at the same place as the anime's ending? If so then it's still a while to go since the latest chapter on their website is just Laffiel and Jinto stealing the car and the Empress declaring war to the Four Alliance's diplomats.
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>>151780224
DEGENERATES
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Is this good? and how is its romance? and did Jinto got to mix genes with Lafiel?
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>>151781940
It's pretty good. No spoilers but Lafiel is a waifu for the ages.
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>>151782154
so they do or do not mix genes?
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I Just checked the anime and wow this one is old, lets say if they remake this anime, How do you think Lafiel can compete with other Anime FMC, will you hail Lafiel as a top tier waifu?
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>>151782319
She is indeed a top tier waifu.
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2017-01-03 10:11:38
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>>151782319
>wow this one is old
Nigger, it's not even 20 years old. Have you never watched anything made before 2010 or something?
>Just
>How
>waifu as generic term for anime girl
I guess that answers my question.
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>>151776477
Such a great show, I need to do a rewatch of it.
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Friendly reminder that space elves are only for extermination.
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>>151783266
Extermination by genetic mingling, right?
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>>151783404
No, why would one ever dilute their proud HUMAN heritage with some genetic manipulated elf monstrosity? Absolutely disgusting.
The galaxy will only achieve true peace when every last Abh is exterminated. Prove me wrong, you can't.
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isntt the novel on hiatus or something?
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>>151783782
The novel is finished.
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>>151783764
I'm pretty sure there's non-Abh genetic modified human in the Four Alliance aswell and they're mostly fine.
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>>151780190
Thanks for dumping. The art and the pacing are great, it would be great if some group picked it up.
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Lafiel is much more expressive in this compared to the anime. Loving the art-style.
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>>151776768
Give me spess elf pussy and I don't care anymore.
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Whenever I see this series, it makes me think of this butthurt loser on MAL who gave the first part of the anime a 1 because it promoted an ideology he was against. I can't make this up, he's one of the top reviews for the show.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/290/Seikai_no_Monshou?q=crest%20
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>>151779133
>you shall forgive me
Are the Abh a race of tsunderes?
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>>151787488
It's because she's a noble. "You SHALL forgive me". It's not a question, it's a statement of fact.she's not very tsun anyway.
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>Lafiel will never leglock you in vacuum*squeeze*
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>>151778428
Spess elf genes at work.
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>>151787618
>Waifus that actually do things
the best.
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>>151778967
guess I'll have to read it now
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>>151778006
A ruling cast of home educated autists, bravo. This is great SciFi though thanks for the story time. What should I look at next if I want to get in to more of the series?
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>>151788134
The anime is from 1999, and while it's not bad, it's extremely dated. There's also the original manga, which is also fairly dated. Your best bet is probably the novels in all honesty. It's only a trilogy, so it's not particularly heavy reading. The biggest problem is that it will be over too soon.
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>>151778776
FRODOS IN SPACE!
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>>151778967
>>151778941
There's that one bit in the anime I remember, Jinto saying that when Lafiel introduced herself it was like she was declaring victory. One of the most memorable things in all of anime, in my opinion.
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>>151782877
I want to impregnate abh QTs with my impure lander seed
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>>151780089
Dammit series don't make me a furfag in addition to an elf lover.
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>>151786502
Yeah that guy pissed me off too
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>>151786502
>https://myanimelist.net/anime/290/Seikai_no_Monshou?q=crest%20
that 1/10 review tho
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>>151788947
>>151780089
Too late. Accept it. Loli Neko Lafiel best girl.
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>>151789761
>Loli
Welp, that killed my boner. Thanks for the help anon.
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>>151782239
They mix bodily fluids, yes.
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So did anyone ever translate the novels?
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>>151788134
Are you saying there's something wrong with that?
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This has been on my wishlist for ages. Good things seem to come all at once right now, I've been overloaded with great manga recently. Another Toume Kei manga just started getting scanlated too.
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>>151786502
>I also believe that if you value human freedom and the right to democratically elect your representatives and leaders, if you hate propaganda and dishonesty, if you hate being taken for a fool or when someone tries to fool you then you probably should not watch this anime.
That guy is taking this way too seriously.
>>151785291
I'm pretty sure that normal human rarely get to see an Abh, seeing how they're almost always in space, so even if you submit to their rule you still won't get your space elves.
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What really bothered me about this series, besides the utterly fucking stupid 2D hyperspace, was the pacing that was all over the place. They spend a good two episodes worth on basically static screens and nothing happens, then pewpews for a moment or two.
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>>151779449
They're space elves nigga, it's their definition
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>>151791932
Honestly the space battles were the most uninteresting thing for me, what got me to keep watching were Jinto and Lafiel's interactions.
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>2017
>LN stil untranslated
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>>151792046
>2k+17
>not learning moon already
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This manga artist is awesome.
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>>151778373
Made for bondage and breeding
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>>151791932
>2D hyperspace,
I thought it was nice to at least justify why space battles take place like naval battles.
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>>151792046
>shit like arifureta and other low quality harem wish fulfillment trash get active translations
>this is still in limbo
We truly live in a world with shit taste.
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>>151792246
This.
Does anybody have a picture of this guy's version of Spohr? My dick might explode.
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The anime and LNs were never clear on the issue.
Do the Abh fuck?
This is the 2nd series where it's not clear if sex even exists in the setting.
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>>151791996
Man, this art combine with tight space bodysuits is going to ruin my dick.
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>>151793110
I don't think she appeared yet, the latest chapter only just have the Empress declare war on the Alliance.
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>>151793202
It's not a matter of being clear, it's a matter of being outdated enough that people don't talk about it, which is pretty on point plot-wise.
For all intents and purposes, Abh can fuck, but the pregnancy is carried artifically once the fertilized egg is extracted.
So I guess they just don't bother talking about sex when talking abou reproduction.
Maybe if the topic was 'having fun' the subject of sex would arise. But now that I think about it, they really made it obscure.
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>>151793202
Yes they fuck. I don't think it's particularly unclear. They just don't do it for procreation purposes.
Abh still feel pleasure, so of course they'll do that stuff. It's just not required and enough Abh are eccentric fucking weirdos that they probably get their rocks off more by flying in circles or petting cats that it's not the go to. But even the Bibaus crazy ass shits still had relationships with women.
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>>151793702
I don't remember reading something that suggested they do in the LNs, but then again it's been a very long time since I read them so I'll take your answer. Mystery number one solved, now to find out if people fuck in 12 Kingdoms.
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>>151778443
Damn how many series does Habanero provide raws for? I see that name in every other series I read.
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>>151791932
My impression was that they focused a bit too much on what I am assuming is extremely rich dialogue in the light novels. The intricate conversations were interesting, but at a certain point they seemed to drag on. There were a few places where they could have cut it, at the cost of interesting but time-consuming things like Abriel needling his CoS about which Bebaus she had a relationship with over the course of two seasons.
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>>151791932
I think I may have told you this already a month or two back, but you're really watching this series for the wrong reasons if you're looking for hard sci-fi and pewpew and "things happening."
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>>151794305
Habanero is not an actual group, it's just a front that random anons can send their work to for release. The purpose is to give anonymous releases a "group" because MU is dumb and requires one in order to accept releases.
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Did anyone ever pick up the novels for translation after the horrible hack job of the official English release? I haven't really looked up if anyone did.
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>>151796553
>horrible hack job
How bad was it?
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>>151786502
I'm not about to read a MAL review, but I've seen plenty of anons with similarly retarded opinions about how they can't watch the show because they hate the evil space elves too much to sympathize with them. The notion of an empire conquering people really seems to piss people off, it's weird.
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>>151796767
First thing was a minor nitpick but they said "we can't do Abh language characters because typography" so they used the same way this manga translation does, however it impacted the readability quite a bit.
Second, to save paper cost they fucking cut pieces of the novels to stay under a certain page count. Yes, the English version was an abridged one.
Then again, we're talking about Tokypop here, the same guys who completely changed the order of the chapters in the only Kino no Tabi novel they published for some reason.
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>>151797544
Did they say that they abridged it, or did they leave it for people to figure out for themselves?
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>>151797703
As far as I know they didn't say a thing.
Apparently it was "known" only in certain circles. I discovered by chance since someone reported a text detailing all the stuff that was cut in every novel of the original trilogy.
I'm not even sure why it didn't cause any kind of backlash, but I guess in that period very few people cared. Also, I believe they sold like shit - it was part of the "first wave" of LN and novels published in the US which wasn't particularly successful.
What I do know is that it seems the Kino author got so pissed that they rearranged the chapter order that ruled out any other volume release.
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>>151796978
>The notion of an empire conquering people really seems to piss people off, it's weird
It is less the consquest aspect of it, and more the author fiating the Abh into supremacy while hammering that they are the good guys, especially with how easily corrupt and revolt prone their empire would be because of how it is set up internally.
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>>151798562
The author really does set the abh up as better than normal humans, even though in the story the abh deny this. The Abh never rebel against themselves nor do they partake in flagrant corruption, except in extremely rare cases like the Baron.
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>>151797544
>>151798058
I actually have those books. I never knew that they cut stuff out and rearranged it. That really sucks ass.
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>>151798862
I've been trying to found the original source with all the information but that was originally posted on animeondvd, so you can guess how old it was.
I'm not even sure someone is working on Seikai no Senki or not at this point, but given the complexity of the original novel, I doubt it.
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>>151799301
My understanding is it is written at a pretty advanced level, though I dont know how much harder it is than a light novel
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>>151793812
They have whorehouses, bro.
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>>151798830
It's because the Abh are actually a grey zone empire where everyone drinks the koolaid.
People just buy into the Abh are total good guys thing because that's what the Abh and their closest supporters think and vocalize in the narrative.
Their society is actually a strange blend of ancient aristocracy, Vulkans and a weirdo artist colony, only the art is genetics.
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>>151776477
that cover is creepy desu.
I'd still hit it though.
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>>151796185
Can you find the post in question from archives? You can't expect me to remember some thread from that far back.
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>>151800802
I hope you mean with a mace or something. It'd be a shame to purge you with the rest of the race traitors.
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>>151800511
I dont think the abh pretend they are good guys, They just openly state what their goals are and then they carry them out. The four nations on the other hand are hypocrites.
In reality empires tend to be far more corrupt and at least as hypocritical as their democratic counterparts.
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>>151796347
Yeah I know but someone must have a full time job scanning apparently
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>>151800866
>>148966098
Don't know if it's you or not, not like it really matters. Just tossed it out there as an aside.
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>>151801254
And that's certainly present in the Abh, just look at all the Nepotism and focus on Lineage there. You can't tell me that the Bebaus would deserve their rank without the noble name they're touting.
And to the author's credit, the Empire gets its shit kicked around pretty good as the story progresses. We gradually see that the Abh are far from infallible.
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>>151801392
Well the Abh are an empire, but they are explicit about it, and the commander and chief is frankly offended at the suggestion that he favors commanders with a noble lineage.
The story itself seems to play the fact that most high ranking commanders have noble blood with the Abh social theory that extraordinary people tend to produce extraordinary protege.
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>>151801662
They say it, but there are some pretty clearly incompetent commanders in the Abh ranks that would have no business being there if not for their blood. It doesn't really jive unless you think the Abh nobility are blowing smoke up their own ass.
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>>151801392
>>151801731
Weren't the Bebaus relatively good in actual performance, though? They're just dysfunctional faggots and the one has to rein in the other.
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>>151801731
If your talking about the Bebaus its clear that before the war most of the Abh commanders had no real battle experience.
and despite being eccentric its clear the bebaus at least understand the basics of tactics
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>>151801848
They fucked it up hard several times and then went and took a bath as their fleet died horribly, so I'm gonna go with no.
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>>151801952
They fucked up? They were outnumbered 15 to 1 and given a lot of ships which were increasingly antiquated because of their low firepower (assault ships) furthermore the enemy stupidly decided to use all their mines to destroy the Aptic defense fleet rather than save them for the main Abh fleet when it arrived.
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I want this translated so bad now having looked at the inferior old manga adaptation.
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>>151802037
They were in a bad situation and it as been a pretty good while since I watched the series, but I distinctly remember several decisions during the battle where even the advisor Bebaus went "Whoops, looks like you sure fucked that" with various matters of positioning and timing.
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>>151802175
I watched it recently, They were caught off guard by the mine attack, there were too many and it was a new type of mine. Because of this they didn't have the guard ships in place before their front line was decimated.
It was a mistake but not one you would necessarily attribute to incompetence. This was their first real combat and the enemy was using a new weapon in large quantities.
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>>151786502
>it promoted an ideology he was against
?
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>>151798830
>even though in the story the abh deny this
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
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>>151789875
Based Jinto. Since that time when he tricked her to say she loves him i knew that he wouldn't disappoint me.
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>>151801324
Yeah, that was me. Didn't read your post back then for some reason.
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I used to hate Lafiel because I believed that she got Spoohr killed at the end of BotS2.
I'm still a bit miffed at her for getting Spoohr's fleet killed for a bunch of prisoners, but at least Spoohr survived which does improve things at least.
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>>151803020
>getting Spoohr's fleet killed for a bunch of prisoners
?
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>>151803875
The battle at the end of BotS2 when Spoohr faces down the Alliance fleet to protect the gate to the prison planet.
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>>151802265
>>151786502
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>>151803020
Spoohr is 100% waifu material.
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>>151804442
>characters 3/10
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That was one of the first cartoons I ever watched. I watched it after I stop watching Star Trek Deep Space Nine and Voyager. I remember a lot of racism themes and the cute alien girl.
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I think the anime version of the genes/cat conversation was a lot stronger. If I'm remembering right it happens on a bed and it feels like there's a lot of genuine tension in the air which is rare for anime.
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>>151804442
funny, because i hate how rag-tag diversity teams these days are portrayed as the best thing ever for the exact same reason.
if i hadn't watched it already, this would be the review to get me to watch it.
>a colonial empire that plans to rule by destroying all existing social structures and imposing its culture and values and
this is also literally false; Abh really could give a shit what you do on your planet so long as they own your spacefaring vessels and trade routes and don't cause trouble in their territory i.e. space.
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>>151804442
My god the sheer butthurt in this. God forbid an author present an idea that doesn't run with what you like. Even if the story is compelling he shouldn't even begin to look like he's glorifying something as regressive as imperialism.
I remember watching the series and thinking the Abh were just as bad as the human alliance but since the story followed a guy falling in love with an Abh they didn't focus on that perspective. Between Lafiel venting antimatter onto the baron with no remorse, and Spoor being her usual magnificent self but still rutheless self, I thought the Abh were slightly insane due to their own conditioning.
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>>151776477
the hero has returned once again!
i mean you Op
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>>151808152
>insane
The Abh struck me as being, as a species, somewhat autistic. I'm not sure if you can call it conditioning since its genetic and not epigenetic as far as we know, but the Abh penchant for pragmatism/overly logical thinking tends to put them in pretty silly positions, like the fact that they don't give a damn about anything outside of space, or that despite being a distinct race, on the whole they exhibit little to no racial prejudice what with mixed crews and the fact that a non-Abh is prime minister. The exception is Spoor with her "mud turtles" and the half-Abh r/AsianMasculinity baron, but that's about it. Even when the Four Nations are suggesting that Abh are a slave race and not actually human the Abh don't seem to care much at all about it.
On a lot of the fleets there was always some kind of super-pragmatic character normally acting as foil to a slightly mad Admiral who I took to be an Abh par excellence with total lack of humour and perfect willingness to do anything in service to the Empire.
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>>151808856
The Abh are also super blunt. They say things that are obviously insulting to each other and even foreign officials.
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>>151776477
do spess elfs like rape?
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I remember the shitstorm debates this series used to cause on /a/ with people arguing the Ahb were incredible assholes who impinged upon personal freedoms for the sake of security, or that the United Planets were corrupt, when both were true.The Ahb can fuck off and die though.
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are there spess ogres?
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>>151808856
>The Abh struck me as being, as a species, somewhat autistic. I'm not sure if you can call it conditioning since its genetic and not epigenetic as far as we know
They (or their nobles, at least) act like that because their society is set up in a way that incentivizes it. The further you get into Banner, the more clear it is.
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>>151801392
>the Empire gets its shit kicked around pretty good as the story progresses
Well damn, maybe I shouldn't have stopped watching after the first season. Seeing the Empire be invincible and right about everything was getting pretty boring. Do we get to see any good side fo the Four Alliance or are they always portray as crazy militarists?
>>151806495
Doesn't seem stronger to me, just a bit more serious.
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>300 replies
>no MINES
MINES? MINES MINES MINES MINES
MINES
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>>151809452
One of them (Hania I think?) actually turns out to be fairly reasonable and remains fairly diplomatic with the Abh.
It's the United Mankind that are crazy fucks.
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This series and Altina always seemed pretty similar.
You've got the naive well-intentioned princess and the far more self-aware attendant/right hand man who guides her.
Only difference is, Regis is actually incredibly competent, while the Banner MC is just kind of there.
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>>151809452
The Empire is still presented as right about everything, but they aren't invincible.
The Gosrauth is a patrol ship, so basically a battleship, while the ships that destroy it are assault ships, which are smaller and much weaker. I was actually surprised at how weak the Empire ended up being since I automatically assumed that they had some kind of technological edge to get so big in the first place. In battle they're better man for man, but I'd say 1.5 Four Alliance = 1 Abh. In maybe Banner I and definitely Banner III they talk about changing ship designs to suit the war.
The Four Alliance are barely portrayed at all in Banner, but when they are they're either neutral or sort of bad.
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>>151809487
The mines make sense in context. You have all this technology, dogfights are probably not the most natural use of it compared to super long range missiles
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>>151809712
You would think that their point defense would be good enough a thousand years into the future to not have to worry about mines/missiles.
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>>151780190
Bless your heart OP.
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>>151809765
Well the things are full of antimatter, And its shown even an indirect hit can destroy a patrol ship, that is a battleship over 1km long. They constantly make the point that a single hit would reduce their assault ship to plasma.
But over all it seems to take alot of mines to destroy a ship in open space.
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>>151809765
It seemed like the "normal" mines were just there to make it harder to spot and target the parallel-space torpedos/mines.
Point-defense is probably harder when the mines move through a parallel universe and appear right next to you, from a trajectory that doesn't match the one they were fired from.
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>>151809522
>>151809622
I see, thank you. I'll continue with the sequel then.
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>>151810042
Keep in mind Banner I is space opera, Banner II is mainly about Jinto and planetary shenanigans, and Banner III is back to space opera.
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>>151809842
A bunch of unmanned weapons is totally worth it to destroy a manned ship.
Also, mines that enter a bubble and get destroyed slow down the ship that they enter the bubble of. So they're also great for delaying and slowing down enemies bit by bit.
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>One of them (Hania I think?) actually turns out to be fairly reasonable
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>>151809522
>It's the United Mankind that are crazy fucks.
Nothing crazy about exterminating elves. The Abh's vary existence is a detriment to the exploration and future of mankind's (humans) expansion. If UM is crazy what does that make the Empire considering they have no quarrel scorching planets?
>On top of all that also Abh want to monopolize the sord rings
The none-crazy guys.
>>151810146
They had to coming.
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>>151810104
Got it, thanks. I hope there's some politics and setting information.
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>>151811423
I didn't like Banner 2 much but Banner 3 is very good.
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>>151811543
>not liking Banner II
>not liking the prisoner chiefs
>not liking theAbh hellspeech
>not likingJinto debating what language to write his last words in
>not likingLafiel weighing duty against love
Seriously?
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>>151811697
is there anything in the LNs after the prison planet episode?
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>>151811989
Quite a bit actually.
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>>151789875
No way? is it the first time an MC got to do it with the best girL? Based Jinto.
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>>151802908
>Tricked her to say she loves him
thats fuken cute, how did based Jinto do it?
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>>151810720
The Empire has no problem scorching planets that don't want to follow their rules. Which is by the way, the same thing UM wants to do to the Abh.
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So what happened to the story? Last I heard, there was a massive mega war and backstabbing by evil humans.
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Since the novels are written in both Japanese and Abh, would it be easier to learn Abh? Or is it just vocabulary substituion?
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>>151803985
I think she's still alive in the LN.
Can anyone correct me?
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>>151813441
Read the reply chain, anon. She's alive.
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>>151803985
I don't think she died she just got most of fleet wiped.
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>>151813471
I should read more carefully.
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>>151813534
What's her story?
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>>151813786
She is best girl
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>>151812238
Got caught in a rebellion on some backwater planet and the ship had to flee the system to escape the rebel fleet. By the time things had calmed down enough for them to return, he had nearly starved to death while hiding on the surface. She thought he was dead or about to be and he let her think that while she spilled her feelings all over him.
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>>151778909
>>151778941
>>151778967
>>151779941
Man, Lafiel is a whole lot more expressive than the holier-than-thou image I had in my head when I was reading the novels.
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>>151814150
That's just manga's adaptation that is trying to make her more cute.
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>>151813959
I don't remember that, is that in Banner?
>>151814150
She's a lot less expressive in the anime.
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>>151814246
That's the end of Banner II.
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>>151814273
Thanks.
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>>151804442
I love his huge bullshit ideological rant in the story section, then the rest is basically a few lines for each section saying "Oh, I disliked this a bit."
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>>151776477
I've been trying to download this series of bakabt, but utorrent is shitting on me. What's a good client to use instead of utorrent?
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>>151814730
Check their client list. Older versions of utorrent still work. I use qbittorrent.
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>>151813899
That tells me nothing.
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Did they ever address the fact Jinto will die of old age before Lafiel is through even a third of her life in the LN?
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>>151814752
Yea, I'm using 3.3.1, but lately it's been crapping out, with seeders not connecting until I close out > open task manager > end task > re-open utorrent. Or sometimes it'll connect, start downloading and then download speed will drop to 1 kb/s until I go through the aforementioned process. Will have to try qbittorrent. Thanks
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>>151814801
Watch the anime if you want to know more
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>>151814848
Oh yeah, it was doing that to me too. Bakabt cutting off support for it was the last straw. Nice to see they still haven't fixed it.
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I wish they would release a bluray.
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>>151814839
I haven't read the LNs, but they touched on it even in the anime. Lafiel said something about the future (maybe the successorship? I can't remember) , and Jinto commented in his thoughts that she was forgetting that he would be old or dead by then. So presumably the author's got it in mind.
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>>151814981
But was it ever resolved? Or was it just lampshades as a potential problem for their future relationship.
The series ending without Jinto or Lafiel confronting the fact their romance is fairly tragic from an Abh perspective?
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>>151815058
It wasn't resolved in the anime, don't know about the LNs. I know they're still ongoing, though, and that seems like something that wouldn't really be closed until they ended.
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>>151815117
I thought the LN had finished?
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>>151815218
Banner of the stars is still being written, most recent novel was in 2013. I don't know if I would call it a Light Novel though.
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>>151815218
The "Crest of the Stars" series did, but that's only the first season of the anime. Banner is ongoing, just at a very slow pace since the mid-00s.
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>>151815218
It's a space opera ,which means it's not a hard sci-fi novel. But Stars series is written in rather authentic style for adult readers and not a typical "light" novel for teens.
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>>151797544
>Second, to save paper cost they fucking cut pieces of the novels to stay under a certain page count. Yes, the English version was an abridged one.
What is even the fucking point of doing it?
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>>151817093
Greed and not giving a fuck.
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>>151817093
>>151817149
And then they have the audacity to whine and cry about piracy. Shit, I ordered the dvd of GitS Innocence when it came out. They gave me a copy with closed captions instead of subs. There was no subtitle track, only some of the shittiest closed captions I've ever seen. They didn't even bother to do those right. Nobody's going to waste money on crap like that, least of all me.
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>>151814981
>she was forgetting that he would be old or dead by then
I'm pretty sure there's genetic modification that extend your lifespan in that world. Wasn't the United Mankind's MP in the last arc of Crest came from a planet that was widely using that type of modification.
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>>151818281
Not sure if that works on a full grown human. Modifying a few cells in an embryo is one thing, and if you screw it up you've lost an egg. Modifying around 37 trillion cells in an actual person would be insanely complicated without causing irreversible damage.
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>>151818324
If they have technology to splice cat and human genes together to create hybrids, and even faster than light travel? You sound like one of those people who at one point thought a human flying in the sky was impossible.
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>>151818324
That's true. There must be something, it would be too sad for Lafiel to just watch Jinto grow old and die before her.
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>>151818375
Pretty sure the cat/human thing was her idea of a joke. And if they could do anything, we're back to the rebels doing so much damage.
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>>151818375
What the fuck does FTL travel have to do with this? They're completely different.
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>>151818413
It gives you a rough tech level measurement.
Stones and sticks -> fire -> wheel -> metals -> steam -> electricity -> spaceflight -> FTL
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>>151818472
But that very obviously doesn't imply that they can modify all your cells to make you immortal. It's not like anyone's saying it'd be bullshit if they could, just that nothing we've seen tells us that they can.
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>>151818502
Look, we can't make any wild assumptions about future tech. People with bronze swords have a long way to putting a permanent habitat in orbit.
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>>151818472
Cept that humanity had already developed ftl when they sent their colony ships out, before the abh existed.
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>>151818502
>But that very obviously doesn't imply that they can modify all your cells to make you immortal.
uhh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z7ydYdtbwM
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>>151819020
There's a chance of you finally getting laid too, but that doesn't mean much.
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>>151819459
That's a nice projection.
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>>151777544
Abh dominated worlds are usually ruled by natives which have been made noble rather than Abh noblemen. Their children WILL be manipulated genetically to be Abh, so they effectively assimilate the leaders of the worlds they conquer.
Jinto's friend actually brings up this point during Crest of the Stars, reminding him that his children will be blue-haired Abhs. We can see this in Baron Febdash's case, him being a human made noble and his son being an Abh. (the second volume of Crest novels, starting around episode 6 in the anime)
Also, it is often repeated that Abh hold little to no interest in the planets themselves, as they are first of all an interstellar mechant empire, nobility being the traders.
>>151780770
There's 3 Crest of the Stars (Seikai no Monshou) novels, and 5 Banner of the Stars (Seikai no Senki) ones, the lastest came out in 2013. And then there's Birth (Seikai no Danshou), which is a side-story collection. Only the Crest novels were translated, as Tokyopop went under. The Anime and the OVAs only cover the story up to the third Banner novel, I believe (The OVA was Banner of the Stars III, so I might just be assuming things, as it came out a year after the 4th Banner novel). There's also the Birth OVA.
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>>151820592
>Their children WILL be manipulated genetically to be Abh
Didn't know that, that's really insidious. I thought Baron Febdash just had an Abh wife and that's why his child was a half-breed.
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>>151798058
Does anyone have links to the cut content? I'm damn triggered at this very moment.
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>>151820679
The fun thing is, there are no half-breeds. The son was just autistically ashamed by his lander father.
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>>151821284
It's really weird that he's that ashamed of his father, I thought Abh are suppose to be home-schooled so where would he get that idea of lander being inferior from.
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>>151821412
His father admits teaching him that Abh were superior to landers, if memory serves.
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>>151820592
>Abh dominated worlds are usually ruled by natives which have been made noble rather than Abh noblemen
actually Jinto's case is exceptional and its implied the crown prince did it on a whim and that it was the first time the Abh ever did something like that.
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I hope this won't become another set of unfinished novels.
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>>151823178
If you're thinking about the translation, it already is unfinished due to Tokyopoop dying.
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>>151823230
No I mean the story itself.The war's heating up and I want to see it through.
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>>151776477
It's only two chapters, right?
I'm better off watching the anime, right?
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>>151823535
Three chapters, actually. And yes, you should watch the anime, it covers far more material.
See >>151820592.
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>>151823571
Ok, thanks anon.
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>>151818324
We almost have it in the real world, for fixing the problem caused by some well known genetic diseases.
Once some of the root causes of old age are identified, there could well be some easy targets for gene therapy that could extend our lifespan.
Obviously it'd be a lot easier to fix a few cells in an embryo, and true biological immortality would likely be out of reach for existing humans, but it could well be possible to extend their lifespan by decades or centuries.
The fact that he's still fairly young helps a lot as there's less accumulated damage to deal with.
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>>151823659
Watch the anime first, but then go back and read those three chapters (and not the earlier manga adaptation, which wasn't very good). There's a bit of backstory that gets skipped in the anime which the manga has, so it'll help flesh out the universe a bit more. Also, the manga's interpretation of Lafiel is pretty interesting. It plays up the mischievous (and more seductive, incidentally) side of her, as opposed to the anime which makes her a bit more formal.
That being said, you'll never be able to properly get across in a text translation the precise nuance of her "yurusu ga yoi", which I feel the anime has to perfection.
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>>151823571
Looks like this is going on my bucket list then. Thanks anon.
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Manga's pace is 4 chapters per year. Start learning Japanese now and you'll be able to read the rest in two years.
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>>151818502
>But that very obviously doesn't imply that they can modify all your cells to make you immortal
Isn't there that one guy in Crests who was modified and had lived for several centuries. But the side effect is that he became slightly deranged? I think that was meant to take genetic modification to Jinto off the table.
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>>151824429
NO that guy is only 48 or 49. His grandfather had the treatment but it is unclear if it was invitro or not.
The Abh themselves can live 200-250 years but eventually their brains start to age and they are genetically programed to die before they become senile
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>>151824429
That was not a modification. The Abh don't extend their lifespan beyond 200 years because beyond that they go senile or become deranged.
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>>151824386
>Start learning Japanese now
That's about same effort level required for graduating from wizardry.Rare occurrence.
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>>151821693
I must've forgotten then, thank you.
>>151824429
>But the side effect is that he became slightly deranged?
I'm pretty he went mad because of what United Mankind did to him and his people and how the Abh seem to always get a happy ending, I would be mad too.
>>151824499
>programed to die before they become senile
So that's why there's no old Abh, I thought they all look twenty forever.
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>>151826183
The abh dont physically age past 30, but their brains slightly break down over time.
>>151821693
No, but he did say he did a poor job raising him. Over all he seemed to have an inferiority complex nurtured further by isolating himself from other Abh.
His sister is completely normal, by abh standards anyway
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Fuck Elves.
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>>151828138
That's the idea, yes.
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I would kill for a good 4x or Tabletop RPG of this game. The world is so interesting but I know so little of the world since the Banner novels aren't translated and the Anime is good, but I know it missed details.
Plus I want to just study Abh Culture, as well as United Mankind politics. Are there any good sites to read up on this stuff?
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>>151826544
I stand corrected. I forgot that he had a sister.
>>151830167
There is strategy a game out there, for the PSX.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvaHP3QCfvg
Note that the commentary is in french.
However, much like all those anime tie-in games, it was never translated and is quite obscure, so even finding an ISO would be difficult.
As for learning about the setting, have this website for baronh:
http://dadh-baronr.s5.xrea.com/intl/en/index.html
You will still have some digging to do.
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>>151830167
>>151830470
There's also a PC one.
http://kinofthestars.heavenforum.org/t110-seikai-no-senki-for-the-pc
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Friendly reminder that only the Abriels are knife-ears.
The rest of the Abhs are merely blue haired humans which happen to be young during their whole liftime of about two centuries.
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>>151830470
>You will still have some digging to do.
No I appreciate this. I don't have the kind of memory to really wrap my brain around sci-fi setting that get super detailed, But I'm always fascinated by the authors who go to such lengths to construct their worlds.
>PSX and PC game
The PS1 game looks funky. Never seen a tactical screen like it before. Combat looks like like that one Nintendo DS game that Platinum made. Kind of like a rock/papers/scissors deal.
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mines?
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>>151833674
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Is this a manga about romancing space elfs or is it more political? I've never read the LNs or watched the anime./
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>>151835501
Tasteful space elf romance, political dealings, spaceship battles with MINES.
Pretty good.
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I suppose I'm going to have to add the novels to my list of things to read. But let me guess, most aren't translated?
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The human factions need to bring him back.
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>>151835501
It's largely about the slow romance dynamic. The politicking is generally background/setup.
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>>151836691
I have a feeling that space-Hitler would be more concerned with cleaning up degeneracy within his own nation than in warring with the Abh. I really only see him advocating war if there really is no decent unclaimed lebensraum for his people to expand into.
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>>151837257
That is actually the main motivation of the four nations. The Abh have taken over the outer ring of plane space, thought by many to lead to other galaxies. While the four nations never say it The empress thinks this is the main motive behind the invasion.
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>>151837585
Those other four nations are run by such incompetent idiots that they Hitler and Stalin.
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>>151837806
>need
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>>151823659
I picked this show up because I was told that pic related was based on the elf girl.
Also that ED track, UNF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOROB3OlHNE
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>>151837887
What the fuck are you doing?
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Her character design got a lot cuter in the interval between Crest of the Stars to Banner of the Stars II, didn't it?
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>>151837887
she's 100% definitely related. imo the improved version, but the original is decent too.
also related is Infinite Ryvius; there's a spot where you can splice together Stars OP and Yume wo Sugitemo and you wouldn't notice a difference. and, what a coincidence, it's the same composer.
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The DS9 Opening works surprisingly well as a replacement soundtrack for the CoTS opening animation.
http://www.youtubemixer.net/?ids=11771#.WG2OqIEtyP0.google
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>>151839410
Well, Saber-Marionetteface went out of style in that period.
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>>151837887
>>151839726
I don't know who this is but I hate her design. Bet she doesn't even have a reason to have blue hair.
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>>151840252
She is my waifu.
This pic also has her sister.
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am i the only one who trips some serious balls during this opening?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0C5V8OPVI
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>>151840169
Guess I should be happy for it. By the end of Banner of the Stars II, she's cute as a button.
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>>151842004
Gib elf thighs
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>>151809363
ahb were right tho, they knew greedy terran scum would use warp tech to wage war among themselves and sought to suppress the tech before they eventually destroyed every inhabitable planet in the galaxy. beyond that, they didn't give a fuck what the terrans did.
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>>151809363
You wee doing ok until the last bit.UMshitter pls.
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>>151830167
>Tabletop RPG
That's going to be hard to make, there's so little knowledge of the settting beside the Abh's Empire so you can't make much story points for a campaign and interstellar travel is restricted so it's going to be a very linear/railroady plot. And you still need to find a way to balance between Abh characters and normal human characters.
>>151830470
>In the beginning of the game you choose four out eight crewman. Then you you choose your fleet composition. There are 65 stages and the story is split between two routes: "Assault Unit Fleet" or "Special Duty Fleet". The main character will have three kinds of ending so to see all the ending you have to replay the game over and over.
That sound interesting, would probably be impossible to find an ISO though.
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>>151780932
yeah crest ended with them escaping, reporting the incident, the war begins and he heads to the academy. iirc crest adapts everything my english novel contained. but, banner novels are larger, so I'd assume they cut quite a bit from the first two tv runs and obviously the third was super condensed.
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>>151780878
actually all it needs is an official bluray transfer from the original masters
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>>151776477
REMOVE ELF
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>>151845346
>That's going to be hard to make
Mechanically it depends on how you treat it. I was thinking more along the lines of Jovian Chronicles/Lightning Strike. Rules to allow for miniatures to stand in for space fleets and some abstracted rules to deal with land engagements and social interactions.
The lack of information though is the main weakness. It could only be an Abh centered campaign with as much information as we do have. Although if the author were to give more insight into the United Mankind and how they utilize hyperspace that would open the campaign up to less railroady plots.
At the end of the day though, it could just be a wargame and stats would be provided for ship classifications and abilities dependent on which commanders are in power. But there are already two vidya for that.
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>>151845732
Never tried Jovian Chronicles or Lighting Strike before, so each PCs would be a captain of their ship or lead their own fleets?
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>>151846145
Well Jovian Chronicles has you playing mech pilots. But the company Deep Pod 9 also runs a wargaming branch that is Lightning Strike. Both games have rules to stat out large ships and for hex grid based combat for vessels of all sizes. Nowadays they really only focus on the wargaming aspect of their games and sell miniatures and such.
Given that combat in Crest/Banner takes place in 2 dimensions it's prime ground for wargaming.
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>>151848644
Nigger, the thread's two days old, 400 posts long, has been rescued from page 10 several times already, and had only 40 posts in the last twelve hours. Just let it die if it's going to die, it's clearly reached its limit.
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>>151848725
I've got bad news for you thenThis post is going to Bump the thread again
and even more bad newsThis post is filled with mines
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>>151845540
Keep dreaming ;__;
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>>151850412
nobody remembers the old memes anymore
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>>151852282
Unfortunately I was never around /a/ during CotS or Banner. I would have liked to though.
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https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Seikai_no_Senki
>2011
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Is the most recent novel really 2013? I feel like it was just yesterday it was announced and we were hoping it might spark a revival of the anime.
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>>151852362
>I was never around /a/ during CotS or Banner
Anon, look up when those aired. /a/ didn't exist for any of them except Banner III.
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>>151852660
In my defense it's like 4am here and I just assumed it aired on tech tv or something.
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>>151840252
>I don't know who it is...
There is your problem.
>>151837887
Nigga you didn't have quote all that shit, but yeah They are similar.
>>151841245
Good taste anon.
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>>151852364
Let us take a moment to apreciate how they completely skipped the first three volumes, because why not?
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>>151855094
I would like to think it's because they were only translating material they had or something, but I really don't know. This kind of shit seems to be the rule with LN translations, which is pretty suspicious. I don't know that we'll ever get to see how the series ends, at least not in any translated format.
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>>151776477
This is one of the classics for sure. It's one of those anime that make you think about humanity.
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This thread has just about doubled the number Lafiel pics I have saved.
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>>151837946
Breaking the rules. Spamming (you)'s like that is not allowed. Report and move on.
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>>151846400
I see, thank you for the explanation.
>>151852364
With all their technologies and genetic engineering, one would that think that they've cured eye-sight related problems already.
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>>151859969
GLASSES MOE IS ETERNAL
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>>151859969
>With all their technologies and genetic engineering, one would that think that they've cured eye-sight related problems already.
They might not be able to fix aging-related eyesight degeneration though. For all we know, the megane-Abh could be 150 years old.
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>>151858926
I reached a point where i gave up and decided to just save the whole chapter, really.
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>>151861383
>the megane-Abh could be 150 years old.
Absolutely horrifying.
>>151861890
Can't blame you, the art is really good and this Lafiel is really cute.
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>>151862241
Damn, I hate waiting for slow releases but this manga Lafiel is adorable.
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>>151862241
The art reminds me of Mizuryu Kei's stuff a bit.
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Man this thread is so fucking nice.
It's a reminder of what /a/ can be.
Thank you Crest. Thank you space elves.
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>>151863431
That's a pretty unf Lafiel.
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>>151864576
Have another.
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the new manga art style is fucking disastrous
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>>151864964
I noticed there is very little fan art on this, it's really disappointing.
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Episode 9 of the show gave me all the keks, the Empress ups and declares a war KEK. That woman not BS.
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>>151785291
Did jinto get to fuck lafiel in novels yet?
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>>151865228
What's wrong with it? I suspect you're trolling.
Yes, Lafiel is sexy as fuck. But prehaps even more importantly all the ships and machinery are too. Look at this and tell me it's not a good thing.
>>151779055
>>151779271
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>>151868238
I don't really care for the new art style either, to different from other official releases, it has almost a western look to it that I dont like in my anime and manga
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>>151867643
"You all come before me with all this legal posturing? Sounds like you want a war."
"Bo, we just want more rights. Pay no attention to the military force we've been accumulating"
"Nope, your getting a war right now"
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>>151868354
>Western
I don't see it. If you said you didn't like it being this digital I would fully understand, that's the one thing about it I'm not 100% alright with.
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>>151868392
Yeah and that part before when she said "if there was an exception then the ship would have not lost the battle".
That burn was sick.
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And now episode 11 starts with an in-universe political allegory. Holyshit I love this show.
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>>151868238
>>151868354
>>151868433
Have you got no fucking senses? Rafeal acts like a Japanese teenage cuckslut and her reactions are overly pretentious in the new manga. Bitch (most likely) who drew this must be some mentally challenged dumbsack
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>>151868624
I love seeing somebody get their cherry popped on this show it's so good. This is what detailed world-building looks like
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>>151869164
I should have picket it up sooner. Like the only reason I know about thx to this >>151841245
but damn this much better than I thought.
Would be cool if it got a reboot like Space battleship yamato.
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>>151866389
We've got like four artbooks from the designer full of bikinis and pantsu, that's enough for me.
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>>151867643
>>151868392
>>151868494I wish she hadn't died ;_;
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>>151869291
Glad to have another anon enjoying a good show.
But seriously. I live under a boulder, what is >>151841245 ? The designs look familiar but that could be because plug suits are generic as all hell nowadays
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>>151869625
I think I need to find scans of these.
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>>151869912
Ever hear of Muv Luv? pic related
Also, my sides were in orbit with episode 11's "Unredtaker" and anti-imperila force "negotiation" part. But this this anon >>151869811 spoiled my fun.
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>>151870162
>Muv Luv
Yeah the name rings a bell
>Adult visual novel
Is this actually worth trying? I know nothing about this.
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>>151869936
A number of them are on the panda (can't remember if they're all scanned or not). They weren't all tagged with CotS/BotS last I checked, though, so search for Watabe Keisuke and just check through some of them.
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>>151870259
anon, trust when I say that it is one the most famous VNs out there. Up the with Fate, STEINS;GATE and Clanned. I promise to you that you will experience of the most satisfyingly, brutal, funny and blood pupping story telling you have ever experienced. I am not gonna say more I don't want to spoil anything.
If you want to get in, now is a good time. The first Muv Luv VN is out on Steam.
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>>151870259
Also, if you do get into reading (which you should because of Lafial and her relation to the Muv Luv main girl) I can promise to you that when you are done with both VNs you will be crying like a bitch. It is almost like a right of passage for all those that have read the VNs (namly, Muv Luv Extra, Muv Luv Unlimited and the most terrifying Muv Luv Alternative)
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>>151870751
>Lafial
>>151868826
>Rafeal
This isn't hard, guys.
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>>151870584
>>151870751
I will take this into consideration. I liked stein;gate a lot.
Thanks.
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>>151870260
Nice and all but his art shows its age quite badly in my opinion.
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>>151873083
I like it, personally.
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