is he retarded?

What if it worked?

Wouldn't you feel like an ass?

>>151741616
DYEL?

>>151741616
wait, how did she regenerate her broken pelvis?

>>151743050
Magic.

Why did they kill best girl?

>>151741616
Gudako would have made a better MC.

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Will we ever see sexy Shuten? Will we see any of the Servants acting sexy in the anime?

>>151743426
DW should give us Carnival Phantasm : Gudako's Revenge.

>>151743426

She would be straight-up fondling Mashu before the first episode was up.

>>151743965
This would be amazing.

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>>151744038
And your point is?

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>>151741616
At least he was smart enough to cover his hands with his sleeves to avoid burning them. Can't say as much about other characters in similar situations.

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While "tsukitards" flinging shit at each other in tsukihime shithread let's discuss F/SF.
It's fully translated already if you don't know.

So now that Extra and Grand Order are getting their own anime, how should I go through these spin offs?

>>151744185
Release order always.
Fate/Extra
Fate/Extra CCC
Fate/Apocrypha
Fate/Strange Fake
Fate/Extella
Fate/Grand Order

>>151744214
Didn't Grand Order come out before Extella though?

>>151744268
Yes but it finished after. If you want you can do the first five chapters of Grand Order then Extella then the last three chapters.

>>151742946
What I have to do with this?

>>151743050
Galahad is a hell of a drug.

Two questions from someone who only knows a little bit about Grand/Order.

Question 1:

Something that shows up in multiple works by Nasu is the inevitability of mankind's destruction. Both Wallachia and Dust of Osiris forecasted that humanity had no future, and humanity is in a bad spot in Extra thanks to the DAAs succeeding at their ritual. Then, of course, there's Notes, where the world is dead, humanity all-but-extinct, and everyone is screwed because the Ultimate Ones have decided to make the Earth their playground.

Grand/Order obviously is happening in a different timeline from all of the above. What is the point of divergence from them, if any? Is humanity in GO in a position where it would be able to prevent its destruction?

Question 2:

If Solomon is any indication, the Grand Servants are a pretty big deal. Where does Gilgamesh fit into all of that? Is he a candidate for being the Grand Archer, or is he assumed to be stronger than even the Grand Servants too as one would expect?

>>151744514
>What is the point of divergence from them, if any?
The survival and compliance of Professor Leff the demon Flauros which enables the "big plan".
>Is humanity in GO in a position where it would be able to prevent its destruction?
Considering except for Chaldea, the entire human race gets successfully incinerated, no.
>If Solomon is any indication, the Grand Servants are a pretty big deal. Where does Gilgamesh fit into all of that? Is he a candidate for being the Grand Archer
Gilgamesh is not a Grand servant at all, he admits this straight up. There was a confusing discussion about being candidates for "grand mage" (which Caster Gil does qualify for) but it's unclear if this is just a special rank among magi or refers to the Grand Caster.
>is he assumed to be stronger than even the Grand Servants too as one would expect?
No absolutely not.

>>151744514
For question 1, it's not entirely clear but the absolute latest the FGO timeline could have diverged from the FSN timeline is at the foundation of the Fuyuki Grail War system in the late 1700s.

For question 2, Gil actually meets the qualification for Grand CASTER, though that's largely just a technicality because there's no way in hell he's ever going to get summoned as Grand Caster while Solomon and Merlin exist. As a Heroic Spirit, he seems to be somewhere around the level of where the Grand Servant Heroic Spirits are, though he likely isn't actually the number one choice for any of the Grand Classes.

He does seem to hold some respect for both Merlin and the Old Man of the Mountain, two for-sure Grands, that we don't really see him show for anyone else.

>>151744585
Lev's survival is where FGO diverges from Clock Tower 2015, not from FSN or any of the other stories.

>>151744618
Is it stated who some of the prime candidates for the other Grand Servant slots might be then?

I imagine that Hercules is one for Grand Archer and King Arthur is one for Grand Saber.

Can I watch this if I know nothing but memes about FGO?

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>>151735922
iqbd or google gives nothing? please help

>>151744691
The original Hassan was Grand Assassin

Grand Caster was Solomon

>>151744585
It seems pretty strange that Gilgamesh could potentially qualify as being called an archmage/summoned as a Grand Caster when he's like Bluebeard and can't use magic himself.

>>151744514
Question 1:
DAA got retconned from worlds with Servant and Heroic Spirit summoning by Nasu. Extella and Extra now deals with aliens and shit.

Wallachia and Dust of Osiris don't even exist in FGO. He never became a DA if you actually caught the hints on Camelot.

>Question 2
Gilgamesh isn't a candidate for Grand Archer as far as we know, but he's a candidate for Grand Caster.

>>151744585
>Gilgamesh is not a Grand servant at all, he admits this straight up.
Extella anon corrected this, all he said was he wasn't currently summoned as a grand or anything basically.

>>151744691
We only have the qualification of grand-ranked mages (again it's not certain if this is Grand Caster, it's hazy, it doesn't use the "GURANDO KYASTA" term, it's literally just really-great-ranked magician in nip), which means "possesses eyes which see through time".

If you believe a really old chinese datamine, Grand Saber has the same voice actress of Artoria.

>>151744618
But Solomon can't be summoned anymore (until asspull where (you) punch God and princess carry him back to earth). That's why Merlin said becoming Grand Caster is his fate.

>>151744721
>It seems pretty strange that Gilgamesh could potentially qualify as being called an archmage/summoned as a Grand Caster when he's like Bluebeard and can't use magic himself.
Simple.

The criteria for Grand Caster isn't necessarily about casting spells.

I HATE TIME TRAVEL
IN ALL MEDIA
IT NEVER MAKES SENSE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>151744781
>Caster isn't necessarily about casting spells.
that sounds kind of dumb but I believe you

>>151744514
It's literally impossible to wipe out humanity is whole now in Fate universe settings. Even Goetia understood this, so his plan was to remake them anew and Goetia had more power than the planet in his final form.

>>151744747
>DAA got retconned from worlds with Servant and Heroic Spirit summoning by Nasu. Extella and Extra now deals with aliens and shit.

Seriously? Is it because the use of heroic spirits allows humanity to eliminate the DAAs as a threat at some indeterminate point in the past or something? Also, do the aliens include the Types?

>Wallachia and Dust of Osiris don't even exist in FGO. He never became a DA if you actually caught the hints on Camelot.

I'm interested in hearing about this.

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>>151741616
He's lifting with his knees already against the ground, that's his problem right there, yep. Shoulda had a squat position going on with a perfect 15 degree deviation from straight with his feet pointing out to the sides. He'll be fine with the proper form.

The girl on the other hand is positioned completely wrong for the pushup. I admire her devotion to weighted isometrics, but a beginner should really start off with something lighter. A car or a golf cart. perhaps? And don't get me started with the blood. Not wearing a pad on your period during a strenuous workout is a rookie mistake.

I'mma give this a 4/10 cuz I like 'em.

>>151744821
Goetia never even wanted to eliminate humans entirely, Goetia loves humans. Goetia wanted humans to live forever, but since they're naturally flawed and imbued with death, Goetia took it on itself to "fix" this.

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>>151744817
>that sounds kind of dumb but I believe you
Merlin hates it, prefers sword whacking, Gil throws spellbooks from the Gate, and Solomon fumbles with his incantations because of his anxiety.

>>151741616
Would do the same, even the part of Golding hands and dying together.

You only let bitches die without putting efforts, never the waifu.

>>151744817
It's classic Nasu.

>>151744855
>everything is on fire
>doors are closed shut
>you're passing out from lack of oxygen
>she has her organs fucking crushed and is dying horribly
idk man letting her have a better death instead of trying to figure out an impossible way out while letting her die alone and scared sounds like the right option. A dying person wants to be accompanied

>>151744779
God isn't evil, he's not portrayed as evil in all of Fate, Joan even talks about God's personality at one point, so does Solomon. That's just your edgy SMT fantasy. God provided for all his people, he loved them, he wasn't allowed to interfere after the age of gods but he still struggled to help.

God could send Solomon back during a crucial moment if necessary, but it won't happen until the final episode or something.

>>151744834
I love you /fit/.

>>151744886
Yeah, that's what I meant man.

>>151744890
God is one hell of a long-term mastermind considering all of Fate/Grand Order is His chessboard, outplaying Goetia at every turn.
This has been going on since 984 BC.

>>151742946
Damn you're right. Never thought of that.

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>>151744826
>Seriously? Is it because the use of heroic spirits allows humanity to eliminate the DAAs as a threat at some indeterminate point in the past or something?
Something about the human principle and history one making DA weaker and unable to reach their apex as DAA. DA are anti-history, while Heroic Spirits are pro history. Likewise, you can't make Heroic Spirits or summon Servants in settings with DAA. It's kind of nicely keep things apart so the fanbase would just shut up about ridiculous powerlevels bullshit. DAs still exist, but they never become DAA.

Types aren't mentioned in Extella, besides the old canon stuff in Extra and CCC, now is revamped to Velber, who destroy civilizations and lifeforms of planets every 16,000 years and the Cells (like Mooncell) which record and preserve so oppose this process. Altera/Attila is basically the remnants of Velber 02 who started the destruction of the conceptual gods before she was defeated by a human, a holy sword user.

>I'm interested in hearing about this.
It's just hinted he remained Atlas' director and never left it in Camelot. Likewise, Primate Murder never met Altrouge (if she exists at all) and became this ridiculously cute squirrel Merlin raised and threw out a window and later helped (you) in your adventures loving humans and shit. He sacrificed his sentience and power to bring Mashu back to life in the end.

>>151744935
>outplaying Goetia at every turn.
Man, I wouldn't be surprised if Guda falling asleep at Olga's talk and getting kicked out of the first mission was due to him as well

>>151744890
I was making a joke.

>>151744826
Nasu using his old concepts from Fate/Prototype
All information about DAA from "new nasuverse" you can find in Fate/Labyrinth

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>>151744957
>Primate Murder never met Altrouge (if she exists at all) and became this ridiculously cute squirrel Merlin raised and threw out a window and later helped (you) in your adventures loving humans and shit.

>>151744957
It's extremely likely that Beast IV would have met Merlin LOOOONG before he would have met Altrouge.

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>>151745020
Greatest love story ever told. Fuck senpai.

>>151745050
We don't know. Maybe Merlin didn't care for humans in Tsukihime world. Merlin wasn't exactly very human himself and he got his autistic ass siding with them because muh Arturia. Likewise Arturia wasn't super human but she sided with them.

Thanks for answering my questions, gents. It sounds like GO has the potential to be pretty interesting, so here's to hoping it doesn't let me down.

>>151744957
So "DAA don't exist as organization" means DA will never able to become strong enough to kill servant?

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>>151745140
Just keep in mind who the real best girl is.

>>151745163
It means that you shouldn't pay much attention to vampires in a Fate story unless they are legendary-based ones like Vlad.

>>151745163
They can be but they will never create a unified team like Ortenrosse and Altrouge.
Nrvnqsr Chaos exists in Fate's world, he apparently fucked up the first crusade which probably had near-heroic warriors since it was a major battlefield of history.

>>151744514
>What is the point of divergence from them, if any?
Human foundation level. It's a parameter that determines the strength of mankind.

>>151745172
dead girl

>>151744935
WTF, god really exists in nusuverse?
I mean, isn't it a counterforce that has been referred as god?

>>151745247
No, this is the judeo-christian divine spirit. The guy who cut a deal with Solomon and gave him ultimate wisdom.
It seems he really loves humans (unlike some divine spirits which just want humans to shut up and worship already) and is 100% on the side of Alayashiki.

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>>151745247
FGO shilled Abrahamic themes.

>>151745163
>means DA will never able to become strong enough to kill servant?
It means the same people exist, but they didn't form a chuuni organization about themselves.

Nero is seen during the crusades at one point

>>151744747
Sun Wukong for Grand Lancer?

>>151745300
FGO shills anyone. Anyone who thinks "Oh boy, Nasu will hate on this group for me and say how they're shit" is out of luck. Hell even Hassans were the heroes recently.

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>>151745218
He's alive and well in that chibi manga so it's all that matters.

>>151745211
I thought it was the Crusade with Richard and Saladin? Because that was the Third Crusade.

Actually, come to think of it, I had one more question. I've seen here and there that there's a generally low opinion of the chapter that takes place in Rome. Is this because the gameplay is tedious, or is it the story of that particular chapter is terrible?

>>151745360
That was a nameless vampire that Richard and Saladin teamed up to destroy.

>>151745328
>chuuni organization
Jokes aside, I really don't see any ways for DAA to take humanity in Tsukihime Dark Six. Without Primate Murder they can't even stand against modern army. They only have chance in the chaos of WW3 or some cataclysm.

>>151745360
>>151745390
What happened was, Nero came and wrecked shit during one crusades, and they couldn't do shit. Then awhile later another DAA came and wrecked shit as well, except this time around both sides of the war teamed up to kill its face.

>>151744817
Famous writers can be casters. Same for inventors.

>>151745385
The story is particularly terrible, largely because Nero is shilled harder than any character has ever been shilled in TM history.

>>151745385
Everyone's personality gets shelved to discuss how brave, pure, noble, and cute Nero is, and how she clearly never did anything wrong, and was the best emperor of rome ever, etc. etc.

>>151745428
>DAA
>fate

>>151741616
Call Zone and ask for r34 of this scene.

>>151745357
What would Kirei do if he realized he is sitting next to King Solomon?

>>151745385
Nero is shit

Ceasar, Roma, and Caligula only exist to say she's the greatest emperor to ever exist forever and ever with the best heart and most pure best.

Boudica exists to say Nero is super great, that's how shit it is.

>>151744124
At least Gendo actually succeeded at saving his waifu's clone.

>>151745468
>>151745488
Was this chapter written by Nasu? Because apart from appearance, the way Nero was portrayed in Extra was a balanced and generally accurate one (extremely popular with the people but hated by the nobility, not a very good ruler or musician).

>>151745385
They changed the style of the chapters at a certain point when Nasu realized that fans were not pleased with what they were getting. He thought people would want a generic mobage style where you
>fight enemy
>read short VN scene
>fight enemy
>read short VN scene

Rome was the worst offender of this. Many characters would appear but get nothing, just to be defeated immediately. They started to change this around London I think. There is a huge difference in quality between the earlier and later chapters because of this. Also, some people really don't like Nero and she was a lot of screen time in Rome.

>>151745582
Sakurai

>>151745590
>Also, some people really don't like Nero and she was a lot of screen time in Rome.

Yeah sure, its only Nero haters being angry that she's on screen. Not that they're angry about how she's portrayed and how she's a blackhole on every character and the entire chapter or anything. No its just haters being angry she appears.

He was actually really smart. He understood that he was a protagonist in a poorly written anime, so he assumed that he might already have some broken MC power like super strength. Being the chosen one you never know which asspull power you'll get so his attem did have some thought put beind it.

>>151745567
Are you implying Gudao didn't save Mashu?

>>151745641
He didn't, Four did. Guda sat and watched her explode like a punk.

>>151745582
Sakurai only good when she write male characters

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>>151741616
Mashu and Gudako are still my daughterus.

>>151745619
>>151745619
Nero is a bad character in GO. There's nothing wrong with not liking her.

>>151745641
She was saved by a magic plot device that wasn't even related to the MC.

>>151745582
The Fuyuki prologue (that the anime OVA adapted) was written by Nasu.

The Orleans and Okeanos chapters (first and third) were primarily written by Higashide, and they are generally considered slightly better than the other early chapters.

The Spetem/Rome and London chapters (second and fourth) were written by Sakurai. Septem was really bad, and London would have been pretty forgettable if a ton of major shit didn't go down at the very end and save it.

Nasu then started to take back over again, but Higashide and Sakurai did still contribute in large amounts to the E Pluribus Unum/America (fifth) and Camelot/Jerusalem (sixth) chapters, respectively.

Nasu was then in full control again for the seventh chapter, Babylon, as he always intended to be. He was also in control for the final chapter, Solomon's Temple, though Sakurai and Higashide still wrote some scenes that corresponded to their earlier chapters and characters.

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>>151744957
Kaspar league
Touch something beautiful and come.

>>151745641
He literally did nothing the whole time, I wonder what Roman even praised him for.

>>151745787
I like to think that aura is closer to full Primate Murder mode, so adult Four is HUGE and FLUFFY and STILL KILLS ALL HUMANS

>>151745803
this is OVA, not TV Series

>>151745818
>LOVES ALL HUMANS
Fixed. He's our slut now. Takes too much after Merlin.

>>151745869
Four isn't full primate murder mode, he says this straight out.
Four = white hound of Gaia observes and loves humans
Primate Murder = white hound of Gaia hates and devours humans

>>151745803
Well if Guda hasn't gone to his room, maybe he'll be blow up with the rest of Chaldea. Lev was so butthurt over that.

>>151745818
He says that he became quite ugly in other worlds, which is why he didn't mind keeping this form this time around.

>>151745803
This is why silent protag is shit.

>>151745883
He's a Beast. All Beasts love humans. This was established by Babylon.

>>151745247
I know people like to fap to counterguardians but jebus tone it down abit.

>>151745803
He praised Guda for being at the wrong place at the right time.

>>151745909
Beasts are born of a twisted love, they don't necessarily have to appreciate humans.
Either way Beast IV's sin seems to be "jealousy" (or envious feelings since that's what Four is supposed to eat) so it could be that Primate Murder loves what humans are, but destroys them out of spite.

>>151745947
>"jealousy"
It's "comparison", not jealousy. In any case, Fou broke the cycle of being an idiot yandere by actually saving the one he loves and not "i love you so much that'll idiotically destroy you and make you reborn as I want."

>"...What's that? A small critter? W-wait! The beast of calamities again? How do you travel with something this dangerous? Do you not know that this thing will eat human desire and is really a dangerous phantasm beast?
>Do you not know if you leave this thing alone in a village for a year, it'll grow into a monster so terrible that no one can deal with?
>I'm not going to talk about unlucky things anymore. Throw it in the lava, destroy it! While you still haven't had it for long!"

Ishtar seems to not like Fou for some reason

>>151745962
Point being the way Primate Murder would behave, that is, how he is in other worlds.

>???:There's not much time so I'll be frank; I'm thinking of bringing you back to life.I am responsible for the principle of "comparison".I am a beast that grows from human conflict, feeds off jealousy and regrets, and possesses the trait of "becoming stronger than my opponent".The Beast of Calamity, Cath Palug. In a different world, I could also be called Primate Murder.If I am not raised in human society I would be nothing more than a harmless animal. That is why I was imprisoned on an uninhabited island.However, the mage that took care of me was a pretty terrible person.He chased me out of the comfortable prison tower and set me free...But, it was thanks to that, that I was able to make my way to Chaldea. There, I met you, and then Guda.

>Mashu: ---You, are---

>>151746011
>???:*I wonder if you will think this a nuisance?Still, well, as that mage said, good intentions are fundamentally pushy in their nature. So let's emulate that.Using the magical energy that I have accumulated for hundreds of years, here I can raise a miracle unreachable by any magic.The complete resurrection of the dead'. Though with that said, death in the Time Temple doesn't really count in reality.What I'm going to do from here is the transfer of the power of fate. Enough to paint over the brief, three-day lifespan that you had left.However, as I've yet to mature, all I can do is to give you the life-span of an ordinary human.By doing so, I'll become a mere beast. I'll lose my intelligence and my special traits.Until now, I had behaved with meaningful intent in your conversations, but from now on they will become nothing but mere barks.It's nothing you should be concerned with. For you guys, nothing in particular will change.But, honestly, it will feel lonely. That's why at the end, I just wanted to bid farewell to you.Goodbye, Mashu Kyrielight. You two have given me a very refreshing journey.

>So much so that I, who would usually turn into something hideous, could stay in this form to the end.


How many worlds has he seen?

I'm literally buying an android phone right now just to play this game

>>151746037
doujin of Fou giving Mashu the dick when?

I really need to start Babylon one day but i'm lazy as fuck.
Also since i won't be able to buy a vita i can stop dodging extella spoilers.

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>>151745981
She has shit taste. Roman let Fou roam free and steal Mashu cuddles. But he's wise while Ishtar was just some dumb whore in the end.

>>151746145
>hundreds of years worth of magical energy made a glopping noise as it flowed endlessly into Mashu

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>>151746155
The CE text of the two of them watching together the fireworks as they are dazzled by the sight of them is some heavy shit now.

I felt horrible on what Fou must have felt in the ending, first Mashu is melt, then Roman pulls his suicide when he was also desperately calling, and Guda pushes him away when he wants to tackle Goetia. All his comfy life fell apart.

>>151745981

Primate Murder is the only animal dick she can't ride. She's fucked all animals, but can't fuck it. And so she hates it.

>Roman: Solomon and I are like different persons, though. Since he had no sense of humanity at all.

>Da Vinci:Hm? What do you mean? That he was cold-hearted to the end?

>Dr. Roman:No, it's more simple than that. See, no matter what hero it is, they must begin as a human. Even if they were born with the blood of the gods, or were a child of prophecy, there are few that are born as heroes. First, live as a human. A hero that becomes one during his formative years would become a non-human.

>Da Vinci: That's right. Even though I was born a genius, until I reached the age where I could do whatever I wanted, I lived modestly.It was pleasant that being a genius came naturally to me, but my childhood was also full of experiences to be grateful for. Once you become a hero you do not have personal freedom. True freedom is there when you are still a human being.This is something every Heroic Spirit has in common--- ...No, wait. So basically, King Solomon was-

>Dr. Roman:Yeah, well, it's something like that. There was no period in which Solomon was a human being. He was treated as a king who could hear the voice of God from the moment of his birth. He lived with people who sought for him to play his role as king from the start.A "loving king", it was said, but that was something that was desired by everyone around him.He did not even have a second for his own thoughts.Even though he was granted the ability to see through everything, he was forbidden to develop an opinion on anything he saw.Solomon was the name of the device made by God and man to bring that kingdom towards further prosperity.That is why Solomon has no humanity.It is because to he who was not allowed to become involved with the world, no freedom of being a "human" was ever given.

People take "Solomon was a tool, had no will of his own, robot" too literally. He's just kinda like Arthuria. Except he had to be like King Arthuria since he was born, never got a chance to be just human.

>>151746290
It's in his profile, anon.

>>151746290
Also people loved Solomon while they found Artoria was rejected by humans, since humanity was still compatible with the age of gods in Solomon's day.

>>151746290
That isn't like Arturia at all. Arturia had feelings and lived 15 years as a person. She sacrificed her happiness and wishes as a choice. Solomon had no freedom.

>he was forbidden to develop an opinion on anything he saw
This and his profile supplied it to you.

>>151745488
But that's point of having her own chapter.

>>151746290
>First, live as a human. A hero that becomes one during his formative years would become a non-human.
Literally Arturia. She was a girl who wished to be a knight and took care of horses until she pulled the sword from the Stone. She had wishes, hopes, and a choice. She was given a choice. Solomon was born like that and had no coming of age: he just did as God said and was forbidden to have his own opinion. You're sure not getting him at all.

>>151746319
>You're taking it too literally
>NO, but gotta literal harder, it can only mean the most literal interpretation rather than what it says in a much more detailed way in the game or else. The game is wrong, only a brief blurb in his profile that I take wrong is right.

>>151741616
Better than standing around doing nothing

>>151746467
No, you're the one who isn't getting it. He just explained the difference between him and all heroic spirits.

No matter if they become inhuman later on, they live a short period they are human, and have some kind of human and normal experiences, then they drop that. All of them are the same. That includes Artoria. She lived a relatively normal life she tossed away in Ector's household. Sure she trained hard, but she was a modest person who wasn't a hero until later. She spent more time on her stables grooming horses than anything else.

Solomon isn't like Artoria at all. Since birth, he was a Hero with all those powers, he didn't have a formative period nor choice about it. There was no Sir Ector household. It was decided since his birth. Even Artoria had a choice during the sword selection ceremony (and this is an important part of her character: her sacrifice), Solomon was forbidden of having a fucking opinion of things. This is all even raised up when Solomon speaks to Goetia. Goetia is the only one who remotely resembles him, but the difference of what they saw and how they acted was obvious. They reached to the opposite conclusion about humans.

>>151746563
He could have groped her marshmallows while she's still warm

>>151746588
Her marshmallows are reserved for Fou

>>151746618
Why didn't Fou do anything there anyway?

He's letting her boobs pillow dying, I'm sure he could have easily tackled the boulder like a child play

>>151746618

Gudako would just grab them whenever she wanted a feel.

>>151746646
That's because Gudako is secretly one of the 7 Beasts and groping Mashu is how she stays relatively harmless to humanity.

>>151746653

So is there a beast for homosexuality? Because Gudako could be some arch-lesbian.

>>151746642
Four doesn't really care until like chapter 3 after living with Mashu and Guda for awhile. He's distant.

>>151745981
What was Mashu/ Gudako's reaction to this?

>>151746467

Goetia and Solomon were similar on how they began (an empty observation system set by God) and had a very drastic difference: Solomon had no freedom while Goetia did.

Roman laid on thick that all heroes have human beginnings, even demi gods, have some kind of childhood or period they aren't yet inhuman Heroic Spirits. This means their wishes as Heroic Spirits came from this stage. Remember Arturia's wish? The wish as the "girl Arturia" gets throw off even in Fate route. Even in her backstory it's brought up that she had to given up her wish, but she had one. Solomon had none because he never had a chance to be human, he acted inhuman since he was born and led his life reflecting this. Only after he made a wish to live as human, he started to get other wishes. He had his development as Heroic Spirits backward.

He went from Hero to Simple Human being instead of Human (with demi-god traits or other hybrid ones) to Hero. Removing himself as Heroic Spirit and becoming a simple soul was actually the perfect conclusion because of this arc which is somewhat lost in translation on trying to focus similarities to other Servants when there's none.

>>151741616
>picks up block
>turns out that she's been well and pulverized, and the rock was holding in the rest of her organs so her chest cavity gives in and slides under so now she's unconscious and when he drops it again, she'll be dead exactly because of him dropping a rock on what's left of her
How would you feel?

>>151746836
Something along those lines actually went through my head during that scene.

But if he could actually lift it, then it probably would not have been massive enough to actually do much damage to Mashu's body.

>>151741616
Nope just the director and producer.

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Hey I just watched this and I dont understand why is lancer suddenly fucking caster?

>>151747240
because it's a different universe dumdum

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>>151747282
But his legend is a lancer with two lances, how can Cu Chulainn be someone else?

>>151747305
he can be summoned as a caster due to his knowledge of runes.

>>151747305
>But his legend is a lancer with two lances
If you ACTUALLY knew Cuchulainn's legend, you'd know that even though he and Ferdiad were the best at spear and sword fighting (Lancer + Saber), they were also the best at riding and charioteering (Rider), the best at wrestling, the best at spells and curses (Caster), and even the best at singing and poetry.

They were talented at pretty much everything.

>>151747305
He does magic in his legend too

>>151742946

>Really makes you stink

>>151742946
No because even if I did lift it through some kind of bullshit, how am I going to pull her out?

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>next time summon me as a jobber

What did he mean by this?

I AM GOING TO DEFLOWER MASHU

>>151744844
>Gil throws spellbooks from the Gate
heh

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Why is Fou an alternate universe Primate Murder?

>>151747305
Heroes qualify for different classes, anon.

>>151748361
Merlin adopted him and made him love humanity so he never grew into a giant murder wolf.

>>151748361
Fate/ side of the multiverse is a strong human principle. Tsukihime side of the multiverse is a weak human principle.

>>151748501
Nice to know, given I don't give much of a shit about the Fate verse, it's a good thing they are different.

>>151747565
she will use your dick as a life rope

>>151744718
Use yandex.

>>151741616
>typical perfectionist bitch
>think she's going to get redeemed, maybe fall for mc, and ultimately get her revenge for getting betrayed
>nope lol, suffer a fate worse then death while having accomplished nothing
Fucking great

>>151744214
Fucking hell I've been living under a rock. I had no idea all of these were translated

>>151749494
Well, mostly.

>>151749494
CCC and GO aren't, Apo is partially, and Extella is getting an official release later this month.

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>>151741616
>Look at this thread
>"DAA can't show up in fate"
...You guys do remember Zelretch is a fucking Dark Apostle Ancestor right?
I'm sorry but we can never escape power levels. It's our curse.

As for Fou it honestly makes more sense that he's some kind of fake/summoned fragment of Primate Murder that formed into Cath Palug, and because Merlin is fucking Merlin it was just retardedly powerful enough to do something like bring someone back to life.

>>151749539
GO has some translations.

>>151743050
I'm more skeptical about her ribs not being mostly squashed inside her lungs.
>>151743387
Edge

>>151750053
>Edge
He's a demon that burns things. It's not edge.

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>Animeonlyfags trying to understand F/GO

Can't wait for America to be animated and the shitposting for it.

So will the other singularities be OVAs too?

>>151750397
Most likely or maybe mini-seasons
The problem is the prologue took a hour. The rest of the Orders need longer than a hour to be animated. The Babylonia Singularity is as long as any of the Tsukihime routes.

>>151750265
How is it not edgy for a cute girl to die screaming for help in a waifubait mobage?

>>151750469
>Someone is killed
>Automatically becomes Edgy

>>151745846
>OVA
>Quality everywhere

Uhhuh...

>>151750498
How do you manage to post on 4chan while being illiterate?

>>151750469
shit happens. I could see it being edgy if there was extraneous brutality, or is she got spaghettified, like a black hole (supposedly) would have actually done but it was literally like she was sinking into water.

If you think shit like this is edgy then you're probably a fucking pussy on top of being a contrarian hipster.

>>151749560
>Zelretch is a fucking Dark Apostle Ancestor
He isn't in Fateverse.

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>>151743050
Magic semen

>>151750469
Because it was done by a demon and is an spinoff of a franchise that started with a game where choosing the wrong lines would mostly lead the MC to either a brutal death or a fate worse than death.

>>151750555
They literally went out of their way to write her getting the most excruciating death available at the time, it might not be the edgiest shit ver but it was still pretty edgy.
> it's not edgy ebauce it wasn't gory
Yeah, not how that works.

>>151750659
Please tell me more about how T-M stuff isn't edgy.
And that is all beside the point, this isn't an adult VN, it's a mobage where the main hook is collecting waifus.

>>151750755
No. The main hook's the story. Nasu himself said he wanted to maked GO his magnum opus
It's an entry in the dark Fate franchise before it is a waifubait mobage.
Also what's not edgy to you? Pokemon?

>>151750695
That was to establish Lev as a villain, and to teach retards like you that this won't be a happy walk in the park just because it is a waifubait mobage. The situation's as serious and dangerous as any Fate plot if not more

>>151748101
>Cu is getting steadily powered up too
>Meanwhile Heracles still stuck in his shittiest class capable of only grunting and the Ilya line which is heartbreaking
Why they gotta do my man like this

>>151751034
Probably cause Hercules in his complete prime will probably be one of the most op servants in existence. Nasu is probably saving that up his sleeve for later.

>>151750946
>It's an entry in the dark Fate franchise before it is a waifubait mobage.
And this is why 99.9% of the marketing is centered first and foremost on the cute waifus, and this is why the MC takes bland self insert to new levels, and this is why it's a mobage with events and RNG grind up the ass instead of just a VN.

>>151751121
Strange Fake implies he faced world ending threats (which would imply Grand Servant qualifications) but that's the most we got out of him. Just speculation. Shit sucks

>>151750979
Because you're not really a villain until someone you're killing screams for daddy, sure, this clearly was the only way he could be estabilished as a villain (ignoring the whole end of the world thing), it's definitely not a case of a writer being edgy just for shock value.

>>151751218
Jesus. You're mad about such a minor thing
Fuck off to Pokemon, shitposter. Anything more's 2edgy4u
Even fucking JoJo's edgy according to your standards

>>151751283
You absolute retard, i'm not saying this was the edgiest shit that ever edgied, if this was 2edgy4me i wouldn't have gotten through the first arc of F/SN, but that does not make this not edgy.

I'm sorry i couldn't get through your blind fanboyism.

>>151751347
>You absolute retard
Coming from the shitposter using a pointless buzzword because "muh cute girl died"
The main villain of JoJo part 4 is a fucking serial killer who kills women and takes their hands because he has a fetish for hands and murders
Is that also "edgy", retard? What does edgy even mean?

>>151750609
He probably is. Remember Arc is the same as usual in Fate verse, meaning Zelretch probably raised her as normal.

I like how Lancer wasn't a Lancer this time and actually survived until the end.

>>151751217
>Strange Fake implies he faced world ending threats
We already knew that from his own legend.

>>151751503
Yeah but you never know since Nasu can change anything on a whim. Especially since it's implied he faced down Pandora even though he never did in his own legend

>>151749450
I don't get it.

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>>151751578
She's happy she can finally touch someone.

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>>151743387

That part felt so contrived. She was calm and rational the entire time, then she just magically becomes reckless toward the very end. At least Mashu and Caster made up for that stupidity. Caster in particular carried the episode.

>>151751599
I'm not following.

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>>151743824
L O N D O N
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>>151741616
He's a bit silly, but he's still not a fucking dumb log head like Shirou.

>>151751410
I don't remember Kira being written in a particularly edgy fashion, even the hand thing wasn't overblown.
Edgy is when something does things against the norm to appear cooler and more mature.
Like, say, a cute girl screaming for help before getting tortured to death in a waifubait mobage, or a main heroine getting thrown into a tentacle rape hell by her own sister in another route's bad end.

How much of the Fate Grand Order story is centered around Saber?

Lancer and Archer both showed up in this, do they show up in other parts of the story?

Or does it all focus around giving the new servants time to shine?

>>151751675
Lef is her love interest who saved her ass multiple times, she even screamed her name that time skeleton was about to rape her, also they thought they were safe.

>>151751851
>How much of the Fate Grand Order story is centered around Saber?
Only the 6th chapter is about her as it takes place in Camelot.

>>151751851
She LITERALLY hasn't appeared in her normal form at all.
Everyone gets time to shine. Saber appears as Lancer Alter for a bit in London and as a ''what if'' Divine Spirit antagonist in Camelot. But even then she's barely used and the focus is on the knights, Arash and Ozymandias.

>>151751466
>Remember Arc is the same as usual
We don't know if Arc is the same or if she even exist in Fate. Arc only shows up in Fate Extra as fanservice. It's said that if mooncell exist events of Tsukihime can't happened
>桜「はい、存在しません。それがフェイト／エクストラがifの世界と言われる所以でもあります 。そもそも、 ムーンセルが存在したら、世界観を共有する月姫の根底が崩れてしまいます。」

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>>151751945
>''what if''

>>151751753
Serenity's entire body is extremely poisonous so no one except (you) in GO can really touch her. It's something she longs for.

>>151751753
Her poisonous skin makes you orgasm to death

>>151751957
You just denied Gato's existence. Arc is an important part of Gatou's character since she was the only "perfect god untainted by human evil" as Gatou explained in CCC.

>>151752312
>>151752300
Even the other servants?

>>151752381
yes, but being an assassin she should avoid direct contact with other servants.

No he's gay in the official gag

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Assume nonstanderd episode count anime format.

How many episodes do you think each chapter needs?

>>151752589
6, 8-10 for Babylon and Camelot

>>151752350
Not me, Nasu did. I assume "canonically" you fight Rani not Gatou and his talk is just his delusions

>>151752589
as many as they want if they have sdf Gudako do the next episode previews

>>151752589
>Fuyuki - OVA
>Orleans - 4 episodes
>Septem - 1 episode
>Okeanos - 4 episodes
>London - 5 episodes
>America - 7 episodes
>Camelot - 10 episodes
>Babylon - 10 episodes
>Solomon's Temple - OVA

>>151752671
>>Septem - 1 episode
Is it an hour and a half long episode?

>>151752671
>>Septem - 1 episode

Even that is too long for that.
Unless 3/4th of the episode is Flarous and Altera than it is not worth it.

>>151752709
Septem is pure unfiltered cancer not deserving of more than 20 minutes. Heck even that's too much.

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>>151752671
>Orleans - 4 episodes
>Three episodes will be dedicated to fighting Wyverns

Are we going to get Jeanne and Jeanne Alter in this interacting?

>>151752671
>no name studio
>no name staff
>DEEN quality most of time
Dude, let's be honest.

>>151752618
But in the White Berserker entry it's stated Gatou met Arc in the Himalayas and they went to the Moon Cell together. I think you're confusing something being fanservice and being non-canon, those aren't mutually exclusive.

>>151753078
>>DEEN quality most of time
>talk about the King of Knights
>scene shows a QUALITY saber standing on grass

I laughed

>>151753048
>Jeane Alter considers her a mortal enemy.
>Jeane thinks Alter is a cute little sister.
I hope so.

>>151753176
F/GO ova is so bad that DEEN was in japanese trends at moment of streaming

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>>151753181
>>151753048

The two of them together is key.

>>151753250
To be honest I think everyone expected the animation to be bad.

>>151753354
I like some moments.

>>151753386
>I like some moments.
This

I wasn't even aware this OVA was coming out so it was a pleasant surprise in the end.

>>151753153
She's character from the events of Tsukihime but in Extra world Tsukihime didn't happened. She's copy pasted character from Tsukihime and even her entry says she's fanservice.

>>151753576
The events of Tsukihime didn't happen but that doesn't mean something like Tsukihime didn't. Nasu flat out said Archetype Earth exists in the Extra verse.

What the fuck is a grand servant?
Google aint telling me shit

>>151754359
Earth's last defense, if counter guardians and Gods can't beat a threat it sends Grand Saber with Excalibur to clean up

>Male MC
Dropped

>>151750270
what kind of dog is this?

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>>151755003
Faggot dogs

>>151753853
>Nasu flat out said Archetype Earth exists in the Extra verse.
Nah, he said that "Brain of the Planet" exist. In Tsukihime it's AE title but that might not be a case in Extra and something else carry it. Anyway we going to far from the main point. "Funny vamp" Arc isn't part of Fate world so >>151751466 isn't true

>>151755099
Medb a whore

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>>151755238
Yes and ? It's not like she pretends to not be a slut.

>>151744957

Wait what, aspects of Extra and CCC which we never got translated got retconned with FGO?

TM is dead and inconsistent. Why did he have to up the scale so much. Gods long being dead and gone, leaving humans with a mere obsession for 'truth/root' was a good enough playground.

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>>151755238
Yes and?
>The sky is blue

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>>151741616
Naruto
>superhuman character gets crushed by rocks, loses half his body and takes years to recover

Fateshit
>human level character gets crushed by rock
>still fine
>recovers in an instant

>>151755316
Well, she did make a contract to be a servant due to her lineage.

>>151755316
Did you miss the part where she said she fused with a Heroic Spirit ?

>>151755259
She's a whore, not a slut. There is a rather major difference right there.

>>151755367
I think he means that she should've died instantly, I agree

>>151755375
She does not sell her body for money or favors, and likes to fuck strong men (and need alot of them to be satisfied in bed).

>>151755181
Your argument is that

1. Her apperance is fanservice
2. The events of Tsukihime didn't happen

None of those mean Funny Vamp doesn't exist in Fate.

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>>151755479
>manipulates Cu Alter in Murrica with her body
>not a whore

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>>151755560
She was interested in his demon dick.

>>151755181
>but that might not be a case in Extra and something else carry it
He outright says that Arcueid was downgraded from planet to god in the mooncell because of Gato

Make True Magic great again in Second Order, Nasu

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>>151755560
No, she wanted his dick and he didn't care about her at all. So yeah, she is a slut.

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>>151755579
Wrong.
>>151755639
She's a whore because she was using him to run rampant in America. Medb a shit and a skanky woman. Would not touch with a 10 foot pole with my dick.

>>151755467
Only the lower half of her body was crushed. People have been run over by trains and had their bodies split in half and they still manage to survive for a couple of minutes.

>>151744957
>now is revamped to Velber, who destroy civilizations and lifeforms of planets every 16,000 years and the Cells (like Mooncell) which record and preserve so oppose this process. Altera/Attila is basically the remnants of Velber 02 who started the destruction of the conceptual gods before she was defeated by a human, a holy sword user.
Why do they destroy lifeforms every 16000 years? Who made the Cells? If Altera is a Velber does that mean that they look like Heroic spirits?

>>151755739
Dude Aliens- Nasu

>>151755681
Again, the word whore isn't good to qualify Medb, you can call her a slut, a bitch, a manipulator or else, but not a whore.

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Why would Medb need to fuck around when she has Irish Kazuma Kiryu?

>>151755579
No matter how many times I look at this picture, it just makes me laugh even more.

Archers expression towards Cu is just so good.

>>151755843
She wants all the dicks. Even those from the past and the future.

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>>151755812
>You can call her a slut, a bitch, a manipulator or else
Guess what that equates to?

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Ibaraki is underrated. Patrician taste

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>>151755681
A whore by definition sells her body for money or something in return. Medb is already a queen and fuck men to make into strong warriors/satisfy her urges. Cu is the only person to deny her so she used a grail to make him the perfect husband. Nothing suggest she is a whore, just a major slut that wants all the dicks.

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>>151755876
Same

>>151755843
reminder that this guy's wish from the grail would be a threesome with Medb and his wife

Florence when?

>>151755891
>Guess what that equates to?
Not a whore. Because she doesn't sell her body, she uses her own power to achieve her goals.

>>151755899
She's a whore by definition of using her body to manipulate him in the America singularity, wanting his dick is just icing for her.

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So, did Francis engage in non-consensual snusnu with Blackbeard?

>>151755694
her lungs should have been turned into mush
she just got lucky to be crushed under the lightest slab of concrete ever.

>>151756094
No Blackbeard is a lolicon

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>>151756094
>>151756122
pirates sol when?

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>>151756094
Blackbeard is only intersted in lolis.

>>151756149
Why is she so cute?

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>>151756167
Because she is an old hag without a man.

>>151755259
>>151755290
What are some of her slutty quotes?

>>151756147
What other notable pirates from history could they feature?

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I hope we get more navel porn because Mashu's midriff is delicious and the anime exposure should get her more love.

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>>151756265
Her best one is when she said to Gudao that she is a Rider because she rides men.

Also this is her main NP

Iron Chariot of Beloved Me / Chariot My Love
Rank: B / Type: Anti-army / Range: 2-40 / Max targets: 50
Chariot My Love. A charging attack in a chariot that is Medb's power as a queen given form. AOE attack. This chariot represents the royal authority of a lord, the iron that tortures people, and the fear that makes them shake, and uses the two bulls of the Táin Bó Cúailnge.
Especially effective against males. It is difficult for any man to deflect Medb as she charges at them.
In Fate GO it has been re-adjusted from being an anti-army noble phantasm to becoming an anti-person NP.
No male who has been captured by Medb's chariot can escape it. The inside is a reality marble, and a nest of love that will not let them free until the deed is over.

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>>151756122
>>151756149
Not after Miss Titcow Pirate is done with him.

>>151755775
Did Nasu give up and made it all Aliens because fuck it?

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I don't get it.

When they go back in time, they leave their physical bodies in the present, right?

When Lev opened this whole, it connected to the present, right? If so, could MC walk through it and see his own body?

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>>151756342
I don't think Drake has shown any interset in him at all.

>>151741616
Was a really confusing character he was determined one scene and completly brainless the next one.

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>>151756325
WEW!

>>151756358
Singularities and Chaldea are outside of time.

Everything is destroyed.

>>151756358
>When they go back in time, they leave their physical bodies in the present, right?
No, their bodies also get sent back. OIga's body wasn't capable of time traveling, only her soul was which is why she was sent back as a ghost when she died.

>>151756358
No its not some astral projection thing they literally travel back to places with their physical body

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>>151756342
I guess being a pirate makes you a titcow if your not already a loli.

>>151756466
>>151756447
Thanks.

>>151756447
>only her soul was which is why she was sent back as a ghost when she died.
did she not have a body in Fuyuki?

>>151756725
She died in the explosion, her spirit just guides (you) and teaches (you) about the game

>>151756760
she looked pretty corporeal for being a spirit, also nobody noticed?
black holes can disintegrate uncorporeal entities?

>>151756725
Think about her body like the one servants have, except a hell of a lot weaker since she's just human.

>>151750609
Zelretch helped the three families make the fucking holy grail system in the first place and taught magecraft to Tohsaka Ayato.

>>151756873
He exist as a character but he isn't a member of the DAA in Fateverse because they don't exist. He's just a beefed up DA if anything

>>151750946
>Also what's not edgy to you? Pokemon?

>Mewtwo
>not edgy

>>151756902
Mewtwo doesn't do anything edgy or scary in game, he's just menacing if anything

>>151756873
He also gives Rin the magical girl wand.

>>151752540
It it is not gay if it is Astolfo™

>>151755316
>Gemin
>Having Superhuman strength

>>151756873
Wasn't his name Nagato?

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Would he be a Rider, or an Archer class Servant.

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>>151757249
>genin
>not superhuman in every sense

The most BASIC ninja technique is Shunshin where they move faster than eye, even Naruto that sucks dick at ninjaing knows it since chapter 1

>>151741616
>it's yet an other fate
fate zero was the only watchable one

Holy shit.
This is so cringe-worthy bad.

>>151757454
Rider, he loved being on horseback.

>>151757677
Whats part is cringe?

>>151755538
>None of those mean Funny Vamp doesn't exist in Fate.
Funny Vamp exist only because Shiki killed her in Tsukihime

>>151757774
The whole thing.
>first 10 minutes are exposition infodumps
>mc is bland as hell
>heroine is moe waifu bait
>blue servant-service for otaku to fap over
>black saber service for otaku to fap over
>really shitty fights
>edgy death at the end

It was cool seeing the usual characters summoned in different roles. I suppose that's the main appeal of FGO? Sadly my phone can't run it.

>>151756853
Welcome to Nusu storytelling.

>>151757844
>Cu manservice
>bad
Are you salty because best dog made you question your sexuality?

>>151756167
>youthful cowtit'd hag, with lowkey Washu hair to boot
>eyepatch
>scar
>loli addiction
She's literally the definition of gap moe

>>151757988
Didn't she just want a good man/husband in her dialogue?

>>151757986
Nah.
I just find it retarded to re-use a character just because otaku like it.

>>151757988
Don't forget she's also a virgin queen.

>>151757844
Your post is pure cringe.

>>151758037
What's wrong with it? Why can't they reuse characters? Specially when it's one of the most popular servants from the original VN
It's not retarded at all

>>151758148
>replying to guy who call infodamps as cringe
He's baiting or crossborder

>>151748101
>>151751034
Its a reference to his FGO Lancer form.

See, with that horrid luck of his, being commanded by self-inserts he can be very useful. In fact, in the early days of FateGO, he was the go to Lancer, next to Benkei and Leondias.

Mostly because Elizabeth was kinda of a stinker if you ever did get her. Nowadays Cu's still a great pick to use during Challenge Missions, and some big archer boss you want to kill.

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>>151758148
Because I watch anime for character development. And you can't develop a character who exists only to please the audience.

>>151758213
>he doesn't like what I like
>he must be baiting

>>151758049
what?

>>151758225
He is still a solid Lancer pick thanks to most of them turning out to be underwhelming.

>>151755287
Earth is dying = Earth is dead for some reason. Mostly because of FGO.

>>151758262
There's a main cast that'll be developed as they release stuff for later singularities. This was just an adaptation of the game's intro tutorial level
Nothing wrong with reusing characters from old works as allies and enemies in the different singularities if they're used well. And Caster Cu was great in this special.
Not to mention, it's not really straight reusing him since we're seeing him in a new class using different skills than before
But again, the character development you ask for should be for the main recurring cast. Not some servants that'll dissapear once Ritsuka and Mashu have solved the singularity

>>151758356
Heh. I still use my picked up Elizabeth (from the free 4* Event)

Now she's maxed on all skills + NP3.

I very much wish that they animate the events.

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>>151755579

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Post your Golds.

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>>151758292
In Extra it's thrown out that Drake might be Queen Elizabeth in disguise.

>>151741616
No, Japanese, there's a subtle difference.

>>151757844
>blue servant-service for otaku to fap over
That was the best part

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>>151758684
Can't be bothered to stitch the two together so posting two screens.

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>>151758887
Tempted to roll for Void and Scat but want to save for King Hassan.

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>>151758684

>>151749437
She's ten years older than MC, she was never going to be a heroine.

>>151751143
Olga isn't a cute waifu Servant to collect, she was a story character and she died.

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>>151759050
Cakes also deserve some happiness though.