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>"Stop! that attack will shorten your lifespan"

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>"Stop! that attack will shorten your lifespan"
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>>151598506
>you'll lose your power if you go through with that!
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>thing has serious consequences
>he does it anyway
>never meets the consequences

If it would only happen in shonen itd be fine but thats not the only genre fucked by this shit
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>>151598506
>>151598572
I like how Ueki handled this cliche at the final battle.
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>as long as I can protect my nakama, I dont care what happens to me
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>>151598572
From what I read of hero academia they at least have the main character stop using his arms to focus on kicks after the doctors all tell him he's going to B himself TFO.
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>>151598506
>>"Stop! that attack will shorten your lifespan"
yfw it actually happens like chrono crusade.
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>"being in this mode takes a massive toll on my body so I must therefore limit the amount of time I remain in this state"
>later episodes have him in that mode almost exclusively
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>>151598629
He mainly uses kicks now, but he can still throw punches.
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>>151598506
Well, in this case, turns out Saiyans age much more longer than humans, so its not really a serious problem.
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>>151598629
Deku just didn't use One For All correctly earlier in the story (and All Might is an idiot) so he ended up hurting himself.
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>characters fight and nearly kill each other
>characters overlook their differences and become best friends
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>>151598506
>My body feels lighter
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>he's fast!
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>>151598851
>Too slow!
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>if you kill him you'll be just like him!
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>"Quick! You have to run over there before the bad guy does that bad thing!"
>"I don't have enough time to run over there but I have enough time to yell about it!"

>"The bad guy is powering up!"
>"Oh no! What can we do?"

>"Holy fucking shit this woman beat the shit out of me because I made an honest mistake!"
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How about anime where the consequences are actually there, though?
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>>151598851
>>151598865
>h-hayai!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC7aJHYePJ4
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"It's no use he absorbs everything we throw at him"
" that's just it lets overload him with too much power!!!"
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>>151598672
otherwise he would've never become the absolute madman
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>guy looks at girl
>girl punches guy to ground
Kekek very funny mai waifu

>girl looks at guy
>guy punches girl to ground
This anime has been banned
Reason: promoting violence and rape against women
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>>151598506
>"Don't! You might die if you keep going! Please!"
>keeps going
>dies
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>>151598974
>>151598672
>>151598629
So the way I understand it, if Deku continued training his body for years and years, he'd be able to get to a point where he could use All for One continuously with little to no drawbacks, right?
So why the fuck doesn't he just do that instead of enrolling in that academy? Wouldn't be he better off biding his time and then joining the hero world when he's good and ready?
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>>151599007
Have you read the manga or just animefag? Because there are proper explanations but I dont wanna spoil you
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>>151599041
Animefag here but I don't care about being spoiled.
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>>151598627
They say this about Luffy's second and third gear, then he just nonchalantly uses it in filler episodes when it was completely overkill to do so.
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>>151598916
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>character been training for 1000 episodes to perfect special move
>hardcore enemy no one can beat
>character comes out of training to use ultimate special move
>enemy dodges it or isn't effected
>?????fuxkingweakkkk
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>>151599062
>anime
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>>151599088
>character uses super special awesome move they trained for a whole arc to perfect
>it doesn't even work
>instead defeats the enemy using a variant of one of the first attacks they ever learned in the series
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>has more effective and stronger attacks/technique in his arsenal
>spams that one move to oblivion
Bonus points if that move has alternate versions and modifications
I like it
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>a woman overpowers a man using martial arts
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>he disappeared..
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>Filler ep
>Side character uses some insane shit that pretty much kills some over powered filler enemies
>Literally never see that move again in main story and side characters remain useless
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>>151599007
How did you miss the explanation in the anime? All Might lost his power and he needs a successor for OFA as soon as possible.

He lost even more power when he gave OFA to Deku.
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>>151599274
What does that have to do with being enrolled in the academy?
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>enemy murders/ruins the lives of thousands of people
>"it's fine, he was just bullied/misunderstood :)"
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>>151598506
I kinda liked in HW that using the arm wouldnt shorten his lifespan but instead make the arm a ticking time bomb that WILL go off
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>You can fix everything in exchange for everyone's memory of you
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>>151599317
HE WAZ A GUD BOI TRYNA GET HIZ LYFE ON TRAK
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>warlord kill everyone except the hero's only son
Why do they always do this
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>>151598506
its common in animes

its about playing with your emotions, its imporant to viewer see himself in spot of MC or other charasters that act like the viewer or are the same sex charaster in anime as the viewer

and then make you feel like losing something important without actually losing it. possibly at the end you will be given actual results to give you last pit of emotion feelings so you get that "what to do next" in your life

way to fool you i tell you that. free will is illusion if you do not control your emotions and i can say with 100% chance that you do not control them, only that you believe you are in control of them
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>>151599317
>he
Name one (2) anime the at did this.
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>>151598979
>MUH YANDERAY XDDD
>OGUU KO WHY DAY SUE
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>>151599615
Naruto. One Piece. Bleach. Hunter x Hunter. Saint Seiya. Dragon Ball. DBZ
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>>151598608
Explain?
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>>151599473
/ss/ with nana WHEN.
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>>151598898
>>"Holy fucking shit this woman beat the shit out of me because I made an honest mistake!"
Is this the most tired shonen trope?

It really irritates me how female characters can punch the main character into orbit because of le wacky comedy but then become incapable of defending themselves whenever someone shows up.
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>>151598979
>>guy looks at girl
>>girl punches guy to ground
FUCK Love Hina.
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>>151599136
Reminds me of how Goku learned the Kaioken and Spirit Bomb to beat the Saiyans only to not end up being able to beat the Saiyans with those.

Neither was very useful in the long run, now that I think about it. It wasn't until the Buu Arc that Spirit Bomb did anything.
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>>151599702
>Naruto.
THE COOLEST GUY
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>>151599817
>Kaioken
>not useful
what, Kaioken is what allowed Goku to beat the Ginyu force to a pulp
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>>151599133
>got magically healed by magic technques of magical girl

He lost his powers though, but if HxH were still going he'd have them back by this time already.
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>>151599845
Kaioken was regulated to being "always on" with no consequences other than when he tried to go to x20 by then though
If you think about it his base power level should've been leagues below even Piccolo and Gohan let alone Vegeta
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>>151599774
Hopefully after All Might's flashback arc
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>>151599007
in BHA's world, being a hero is an actual profession overseen by authorities
Use of quirks by civilians are heavily regulated
You need to undergo professional training and pass licensure exams if you want to work as a hero
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>>151599291
To be a hero you need a license.
To have a license you need to complete a Hero course
The best hero course is at U.A.
All Might is the new teacher at U.A.
Deku has always dreamed of attending U.A.
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>>151600172
>>151600285
i like bnha but I still hate this concept
>you're not allowed to help or safe people unless you played grabass for an hour and get yelled at by old people
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>>151599729
he liked it
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>>151598916
As shitty as it is IBO does this quite well. The MC is pretty much a vegetable now outside of his mech and needs to be carried around by his comrades.
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>>151600355
I had such high expectations for the test but IMHO Hori didn't deliver. And he usually does.
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>>151598506
>"If you use that technique, you'll die"
>character performs said technique and doesn't die
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>>151600624
He can still turn it around. The second semester is starting, which means we'll get a new sport festival soon.
Hopefully the villains seize that opportunity to wreck havoc in the city while all heroes are fondling their balls watching kids doing track and field.
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>>151600705
>this is a technique that can only be used once
>later on the technique gets used multiple times
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>>151598506
Orphan MC is the messiah and/or descendant of some of the powerful people in existence.
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>>151598851
>>151598865
>>151598923
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>character uses forbidden technique
>doesn't get arrested by the police
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>>151598881
Of all the shounenshit cliches this one pisses me off the most. I feel sorry for the MC busting his ass to take down a homicidal psycopath who killed his family and friends only to have some sanctimonious cunt shove their preachy bullshit onto you right before you exact your revenge. And it almost always happens right after the heroes carve their way through the big bad's hechmen, whose biggest sins were simply not finding a better employer, so them sparing the asshole responsible for it all in the first place because "muh morals" just shows what a bunch of hypocritical shitstains they are.
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>>151598979
>girl blackmails guy with false rape accusations
Lol how cute so funny XD
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>>151598979
Because suffering centuries' worth of oppression gives women the right to violently assault men whenever they feel like it and in general just be a cunt. Progression, the only way to move forward is by forever dwelling on the past.
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>>151600785
>Character uses Forbidden technique.
>They die from it, thats the curse.
>Later in series.
>Different character uses the same technique as if its nothing.
>HA HA THAT FOOL DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO WIGGLY WOMPLY!
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>character dies
>he's still alive
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>>151601063
>character is dead
>literally the only difference is that they now have a halo
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>series set in real world
>JAPAN IS THE BEST AND STRONGEST
>LOOK AT OUR MILITARY, AFRAID TO SHOOT GUNS
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>see boobs
>nosebleed
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>>151601171
>character is actually more powerful when dead
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>>151598979
>muh misandry
>muh false equivalencies
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>If you do that you'll die!
>But you will live

Asura's Wrath really was the best anime.
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>>151601202
Man I love it when Japs try to whitewash their history and pretend they did nothing wrong, despite all the evidence stacked against them.
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>>151598916
Gundam does it alot.
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>>151601256
So you're saying it's okay for a girl to punch a guy just because he looked at another girl?
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>>151598608
>oh I thought I had no talents left but actually I friendly fired the monkey teehee
Too bad the series had entirely forgotten about the existence of talents for the last thirty or so episodes before that fight.
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>>151601063
>Character is the first one to die, twice
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>>151601269
It's not just about history. I'm getting really tired of the nationalist undertones a lot of manga have.
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>>151601063
>people don't die when they're killed
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>>151598865
>vanishes
>appears behind MC
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>>151601386
Well that's just Asians in general, the Chinese and Koreans are also racist as fuck.
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>>151599900
nah he won't have them back until the DC arc is over
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>>151601386
There's a definite trend recently, but not everything is as overblown as GATE just yet so it doesn't irk me that much.
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>>151598506
Villain actually gonna explaining his plan.
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>>151600903
I'd watch it

>MC forms RPG party in prison
>Proceeds to break out
>Roam the lands in search of the woman
>Fights different levels of cops some with names and special moves
>Finally finds the woman
>She's dating the judge
>Homies sacrifice their self
>Get a confession
>Ends with a parade celebration in town in your honor
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>>151601386
What is it with you /pol/tards, you can't shit all over the (((globalism))) bogeyman in order to shill your Nationalist fantasyland one moment, and then turn around and complain about nationalism in media the next.
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>>151600873
You just don't know what a hero is. If a hero kill, then he isn't a hero anymore.

Those are antiheroes.
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>>151600721
I thought the sport festival was annual. I'm still a lil upset about the tournament though. Look at the matchups-vignette/page/chapter ratio and tell me he didn't fuck it up.

>Round 1:
Sero/Todoroki 4p - Kaminari/Ibara 2v - Mei/Iida 5p (gag) - Mina/Aoyama 3v - Momo/Birb 1 vign - Tetsu/Kiri 6v - Bakugo/Ochacuck 1ch

>Round 2:
TodoDeku 3 ch - Bakugo/Kirishima 3p - NO Ibara/Tenya - NO Mina/Birb

>Round 3:
Iida/Todo 5p - Bakugo/Birb 5p

>Round 4:
Bakugo/Todoroki ch43
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>>151601551
I have nothing to do with /pol/, friend. I don't know how you even got that idea, other than projection.
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>>151601600
Idiot /pol/ crossboarders were the ones triggered hardest by the GATE JSDF anime last year.
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>>151601586
If a "hero" is willing to let a clearly obvious bad guy who destroyed homes and killed children for shits and giggles go then he's a fucking faggot and deserves death more than the villain.
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>>151601638
I'm not talking about Gate specifically either. Do you actually read posts or do you just interpret whatever you want into them?
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>tournament arc
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>>151599473
Okay, but how does that explain how Deku stops hurting himself using OfA?

It the begin of the anime he says it's a story of how he became the greatest hero. So obviously whatever damage he did to his body wasn't that bad.
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>>151601652
Or they just convert the villain into some antihero. This way the author avoids making the hero kill while getting a way of disposing other villains in the future.
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>>151598506
>you remind me of my mother
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>the good guys are losing to the bad guys
>the bad guys reveals their plan/powers
>the good guys manage to beat/stop them after learning it
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>>151601652
I mean, most villians just get captured
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>>151601792
You forgot the part where the good guys then lecture the bad guys on why nakama power is important.
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>"love and smiles always trump evil"
>except when the protagonist goes full edgelord
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>>151599317
>Implying there are innocent people exist.
>Implying they are not deserve.
Pfff.
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>>151599900
We'll be able to find out who the magic girl is and what the magic techniques in two more decades
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>>151601931
fuck off ESL
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>>151601297
Not him, but it's definitely okay to punch someone like you for any reason whatsoever.
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>>151598881
Alright this is a problem in capeshit but how often is this a thing in /a/ stuff?
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>>151601787
>Videl: tsundere
>Gohan with mother issues
Freud was right. Liking tsundere shows that you have a mother complex.
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>>151598506
>ten year old boy
>stronger, deadlier and more capable than even the most revered and respected adults in the series

I guess it's not completely unrealistic though. There are legit child prodigies in real life, too.
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>>151599702
>Saint Seiya
The worst offender IMO, half of the gold saints just shrug away the fact they almost got Athena killed.
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>>151598979
>when the girl get bitchslapped for being a little bitch
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>>151601922
>gets told to not use that dark/evil power within you
>said power is the reason the situations narrowly avoid being fatal
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>>151601407
>when people die, they win.
Canada is a crazy anime.
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>>151602005
>Then halfway through the story it's revealed that they were the decedent of some sort of ultra badass and they are close to surpassing even them.
This happens so much I'm numb to it but Negima ran with it so hard I had to hate it.
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>>151599007
Because won't stop and give you 15 years to train
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>>151602131
>then halfway through the story it's revealed they were the decendent of some sort of ultra badass

Yep. Every fucking time. This killed the novelty of "loser kid works hard to be amazing" narrative in Naruto, really.

when did (you)'s get replaced with dotted underlines?
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>>151602131
To be fair though, Negi goes practically the complete opposite way of getting stronger compared how his dad(and presumably mom) got there.
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>>151598506
>demons can lay hands on an archangel and not just walk away but win
>demons are the good guys
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>the condition is
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>>151602075
I guess that sort of makes sense.
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>>151602214
I gotta admit that I feel like Naruto never had that going for it, even before we knew his parents he had the fox from day one. Even at his worst he had unlimited energy to the point where he could always perform a high level jutsu.
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>>151602238
Yeah indeed, I think one of the reasons I really rate Negima above the other shounen series is how Negi actually goes against the established notion of "proper hard work and honest training"and instead goes for "corrupted power".

I mean a lot of other shounen do still end up doing/using some corrupted/dark power, but that's usually like after they exhausted everything and things are desperate.
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>to get a powerup I have to die

Thanks shaman king
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>>151602465
Well 'die', if they happened to get maimed in the process they were fucked.
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>>151602214
>when did (you)'s get replaced with dotted underlines?

I guess they didn't want you to be able to search for (you) in a thread to find out how popular you were
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>Protag starts off as either a shy nobody or an idiot/pervert nobody

That's not too bad, where will the story go from here?

>Even after being surrounded by girls and new friends they remain the same fucking person from day 1

I dont want them to fuck every girl and take no shit but a little development would be something.
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>>151602075
He recently got to 8%
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>>151598506
>The villain working hard, training everyday without rest, giving himself for a hard work for a chance in this life.
>Some genius hero is going wreck him without sweating
Nothing personal kid.
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>>151602622
And probably force people to get a 4chan pass so they can vote in that shitty poll.
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>>151602731
>builds an empire and hierarchal structure over his lifetime
>enjoying the fruits of his hard-earned labour
>some kid walks in and destroys his life's work

The sad life of a villain.
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>>151602781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA-4B2d4L18
>Nothing personal kid.
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>>151602731
That's the problem with heroes, really. Their only purpose in life is to thwart others. They make no plans, develop no strategies. They react instead of act. Without villains, heroes would stagnate. Without heroes, villains would be running the world. Heroes have morals. Villains have work ethic.
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>>151602731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKQCs34PqKg&t=4s
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>"getting caught was part of my plan"
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>>151602967
>hero shoots villain before throwing him out of a plane
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>>151602345
You do make a pretty good point. There was a point in the beginning of part 2 though where Captain Yamato says Naruto should rely on his own strength and not the fox's, which led to the development of the rasenshuriken. It was inevitable for him to start using that fox power anyways.
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>>151598506
>Using this skill will eventually cause for you to die
>Fuck that shit I won't live to reach eventually if I don't win right now
>Spams the skill repeatedly
Why was Pop so based?
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>>151602363
Negima is just a legit genius though. He was never presented as some sort of underdog except in his age, pretty much the first thing we hear about him is "HELLO I'M 10 GRADUATED FROM OXFORD CAN SPEAK RANDOM LANGUAGES FROM EVERYWHERE AND A GENIUS MAGUS PLEASE TREAT ME WELL"
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>>151602255
Demons being the 'good' guys probably comes from Paradise Lost. Also from the fact that God and His angels, while they don't deny free will, in the OT especially don't really have an open mind at any point in time. God is right and if you agree with him then you are too. There's no room for discussion. He doesn't take away free will since you CAN turn away from Him, but that makes you automatically evil and you can see how that would be a pretty poor theme for a shonen aimed at kids.
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>Heart broken protagonist painfully abandons his life's goal and purpose in order to save the world so others can live in a utopia
>The idiots waste it
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>mission is to destroy THE item and defeat the villain once and for all
>has aerial support
>choose to travel by foot instead because reasons
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>>151602940
but a good protagonist has a personal goal they are actively working torwards. That's what makes Shinchika more interesting than, say, Ichigo from Bleach. Shichika has a personal stake in the battles, whereas Ichigo(or really most shonen MCs) just exist to fight whoever is attacking that week.
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>>151603315
>Madara will create a literal Utopia and nobody knew about the retarded white zetsu shit
>hurr muh reality
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>>151603387
>WE HAVE TO BE SNEAKY :DDDD
>ends up causing trouble and uncover their 'disguise' on episode 1
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>>151602731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKZBHzBwn44
Hahahahaha like poetry.
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>MC and friends have to find x amount of items to advance
>literally the search for the 7 dragonballs
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>>151602956
>tfw some lucky little girl destroys your dojo and kills you and all your friends
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>>151602940
Why can't heroes have work ethic or plans?
>Have a secret identity, work a 9-5 job when not crimefighting
>Train body to stay in shape/get stronger
>Formulate new tactics, plans, strategies against enemies or future threats based on past encounters
>If you're smart enough, create gadgets or tech to help fight crime or increase security
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>>151601586
>If a hero kill, then he isn't a hero anymore.
Bitchboy Hercules and Perseus are some of the original Heroes and make no fucking mistake, they killed people. Batman is an 'antihero' but because he fucking refuses to kill the Joker he's indirectly fucked up Arkham beyond measure
It's OBVIOUS the prison cannot fucking hold the Joker. Putting him in is equivalent to letting him go.
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>>151603664
Old comic batman has killed some people actually, or at least left quite them to be killed.
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>MC uses his ultimate technique
>Villain just copies it and uses it to beat him
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>>151603713
Well that's why I put antihero in scare quotes, he was always supposed to be one.
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>>151603733
I honestly think we need more villains who are too powerful for the MC to ever fight squarely and more times when the MC just flat out never surpasses some of the characters in the story. It's both a good excuse to not want to fight and a good way to introduce more subtle ways of fighting, or even thinking whether or not he should be fighting at all.
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>Side characters who were shown to be powerful earlier job to MC for no reason
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>>151603733
more like
>some character shows MC a move that is difficult to do and requires years of training
>MC learns to use it in just a few weeks/days/hours/seconds
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>clench fist
>leathery sound
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>>151603733
>MC and his rival having their final battle
>They eventually run out of power and just start beating each other with their fists
>They end up betting all of their strength on one final punch
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>The MC and Villain switch places in the middle of the story
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>>151598506
>MC advances 100000 times faster than his contemporaries
>"hard work will overcome genius"...because the genius doesn't work hard at all
>MC solves all the problems of the world on his own but still talks about muh Nakama
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>>151601256
>it's okay when x does it

Wow. That doesn't sound equivalent at all.
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>>151603915
>grand battles devolving in to fist fights
>post endgame battle with rival
these are literally the greatest things ever though
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>punch monster
>receive harem
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>>151603913
>clench fist
>blood comes out
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>>151604022
>help a girl up after bumping into them
>instantly falls in love
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>>151603315
>Small problem occurs
>MC immediately blamed and exiled for said problem
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>>151600778
It's weird to see how many remakes and adaptations Rurouni Kenshin's getting lately, while everyone forgot that Busou Renkin existed.
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>>151604114
>let's make this character join their sworn enemy for muh zetsubou reasons
Fuck Sherry
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>>151603570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLwZd30TFq4
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>>151598572
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>>151598506
>"Stop! that attack will shorten your lifespan"
>character coughs up some blood after but is fine
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>>151604429
>"Stop, smoking will shorten your lifespan!"
>character coughs after but is fine
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>>151598572
I'm remembering what I watched of Owari no Seraph.

>No, I must save my friends!
>But if you take more than two pills you'll die!
>Fuck you, I'm the anime protag. Your rules dont apply to me!
>Fucking almost dies and is useless for the final battle.

It was actually hilarious.
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>>151604458
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>>151604458
>"Stop, taking drugs will shorten your lifespan!"
>character actually dies
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>>151604543
>Top 10 most powerful anime characters
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>>151604458
Thats not funny, lad
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>>151604500

It was unexpected but great.
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>>151604543
>character does something immoral
>dies
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>>151604270
Makka na Chikai is the only reason I even remember the show.

It's a good reason, though.
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>>151598881
>Van of the Dawn
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>>151604611
Seraph threads were comfy. Season 3 when?
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>when you use an attack that shortens your lifespan so many times that you actually die
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>character promises to protect someone
>ends up possessed by that someone's enemy
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>>151599317
>Monster
Would have dropped if I wasn't so close to the end.
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>>151604397

He should've died though.
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>>151604500
Didn't he nearly go full fucking Seraphim right then and there?
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>>151599348
Ragna
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>>151599817
??? Kaioken let him BTFO Nappa. Spirit Bomb didn't really do much though.
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>>151601252
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>He's so good at fighting! Because he's Unconscious!
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>>151605788
I bet you think your thoughts are yours.
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>>151605736
Yeah, but that was more about him becoming apart of something greater than himself. I'm talking about a straight upgrade with no drawbacks.
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>>151598916
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>Medieval fantasy world
>"Allow me to explain this using RPG terminology"
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>>151605788
Isn't that usually either a hidden bloodline or some shit or else some Eternal Arms Mastery shit going on?
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>Villain has been defeated
>All of his guards are defeated
>The item he needed to rule or destroy the world is now in the hands of the hero
>He has been betrayed by his most loyal partner
>"hehe...all according to plan"
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>>151600903
>guy is actually accused of rape
>everyone in the kingdom hates him
>he gets a cute tanooki
It went better than expected until the plot went to shit
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>>151603915
>Taking Down the Popular Guy Down A Peg Punch
>Punch
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>>151606272
>Edgy blood rage mc cut myself protag
>Get a loli
>Loli turns into some big breasted whore overnight so MC can fuq her without worry
>IT IS JUST HOW IT IS XDDD

Also that novel / manga was retarded from the start

>This guy is one of the few people who can help us preventing world's end
>Yeah might as well treat him like shit and bully him
>Somehow mostly everyone agreed on this
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>>151602297
When Lee removed his weight, now that was the hypest shit ever.
I will never not be mad at Gahara asspull win.
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>>151606520
That's not too bad, the world was shit and that was the initial premise. I'm more concerned at the author randomly making the world not shit, the development felt too artificial. I only kept on reading because tanooki deserved a good end.
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>"Stop! if you keep fighting you'll damage your body
>He does it anyway
>Becomes a vegetable
Everytime
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>"THIS WAS PART OF MY ESCAPE PLAN ALL ALONG"
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>>151606749
>not knowing what this is already
>not using Google
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>>151606786
It was the only way to save everyone. At least he is okay with it.
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>>151606929
>google image search
>come up with "anime"
k
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>>151606971
Works for me ;^)
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>>151606520
That pic is incredibly confusing
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>>151599221
>M-MASAKA
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>>151601763
I still dont understand how the fuck did he manage those ranged attack by holding out his hand at Gear 2

And why can he punch and explode the shit out of niggas now
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>love interest is doomed to disappear forever
>everything starts to set up in the last three episodes
>she leaves in the middle of the last episode to return 10 minutes after
>lol I returned cuz I'm in love with u XD
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>>151603860
Or it can just go to shit like Shaman King did
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>>151599221
>MC drives a FWD
>He drifts with it
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>>151607229
Still waiting for UQH to redeem Negima.
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>>151607367
Negima was fucking garbage, i dont understand the hype

Is it because of all the Shota bait?
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>>151607411
This, i never understood the hype surrounding that shitty anime, i even tried reading the manga and dropped it before even finishing the first volume.
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>>151604896
>Heita is probably like 18 or something
>skill is called ten year knuckle
>after 7 times he dies
>realizing you are actively taking 10 years off what would've been a long and happy life with each use until you take so much his lifespan is below his age
>you have to do it to clear him
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>>151600355
And you are not allowed to shoot criminals with your gun unless you are a policeman.
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>it's useless
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>Character saves another character's life for the sole purpose of mindfucking them after
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>>151608168
>It is useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless useless
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>>151598627
Luffy's powers only make him hungry tho
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>>151607696
Not that I love it but you did drop it before it got remotely interesting
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>>151602465
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>>151599817
He did beat the Saiyans with the Spirit Bomb and Kaioken was the only reason Vegeta didn't slaughter everybody.
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>>151606971
Use "what anime is this" for that.
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>>151602465
He stole it from DB
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>>151599950
No? Are you an idiot? He only used kaioken x 2 vs ginyu force.
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>>151598881
I despise that line in any form of storytelling
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>Protag and villain fight
>Protag absolutely wrecking villain, not even a contest
>Big final attack
>"You did it protagonist-kun!"
>GASP
>Villain walks out of the dust cloud
>Completely unscratched save for clothing damage
>"Well, that's enough of a warm up."
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>>151604397
only would've been okay with him dying if that night guy was actually the end of it
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>Character established as having a short lifespan and that they're going to die in set amount of time
>They live anyway thanks to Deus ex Machina that gives them a normal human lifespan/immortality
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>>151599950
> Kaioken was regulated to being "always on" with no consequences other than when he tried to go to x20 by then though
If you think about it his base power level should've been leagues below even Piccolo and Gohan let alone Vegeta
What did he mean by this?
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>>151603923
When?
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>>151598916
Hunter x Hunter did it with Gon
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>>151601386
Japan is over 99% Japanese natives, so they are pretty racist there.
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>>151608744
Nah, all healed up
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>>151608669
If you ever watch MMA fighters warming up it does mostly consist of them letting weaker opponents just beat the shit out of them.
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>>151607912
At least he died being a MAN.
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>futuristic setting with ion cannons and space ships and cybors and shit
>somehow no biological immortality or targeted cell removal/renewal
Rustles me every time
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>>151598627

God I fucking hate this rubbery pinoy so much.

If he wasn't constantly ruining the manga, Wan Piss would have been maybe decent.
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>>151602708
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>Character dies
>Bring them back anyway because they're popular
>Also if they were a villain, a reason is contrived for them to suddenly be good

Fucking fan popularity polls the nips love so much are the worst. Just let creators tell their story.
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>>151608987
Example?
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>>151598566
lol
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>>151598566
And then you'll get them back, lose it again and get them back again
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>Mascot character blocks villain's attack to save MC and his friends
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>>151609033
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>>151609135
He is dead, Jim
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>>151598572
>Actually reduces his lifespan
>Dies
DxD truly is the thinking mans punching anime
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>>151598506
Bet everything mentioned in this thread has happened in that pure vomit called Fairy Tail
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>"Why?"
>"You know why."

I miss the edgy Munakata he was funny as hell
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>>151609033
Levi was planned to die but Ishiyama decided to keep him alive because he is popular.
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>>151608788
He lost his nen.
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>>151608987
>Just let creators tell their story.
Most of the time they don't even have one to begin with. It can take many tries to get serialized, and at that point nips stop worrying about having a coherent story and just bet it all on an initial idea.
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>>151609275
How does it even make money at this point?
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>>151609437
tities that's how
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>>151609437
He's good at drawing thicc girls
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>>151609033
Aizen, Ice Shota, and iirc, Rukia's brother.
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>>151609226
>eroticism doesn't happen in the genitals but in the brain

It definitely is a thinking mans anime.
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>>151598881
I swear a JoJo villain pulls this at some point and gets his shit kicked in.
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>>151598881
What if they're like that one guy from Warhammer 40k where anybody who kills him transforms into him?
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>>151609575
the first vilian of diu does it and he gets turned into a sentient rock
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>>151598851
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>>151609632
Oh right that was the one. I love when tropes get btfo
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>>151608118
Or self defense, depending on location
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>Satan/Lucifer/Maou-sama is actually a girl
This is so fucking overused it became an insta-drop for me
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>>151598572
At least in FMA, despite the cringeworthy final battle, the MC really did permanently lose their powers in exchange for good ending.
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>>151603882
>Just a few weeks
You barely read it, haven't you?
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>>151609887
What is this round type of eyebrows called?
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>>151598979
what is Videl vs Spopovich for 500 Alex
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>>151609437
ASS AND TIDDIES
not that those are to be complained about, it's the plot that is shit not the PLOT
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>>151609794
Best representation of Satan in anime is from Mekakucity Actors
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>>151609886
Yeah but it's not like he needed them anymore.
The point is that this trope makes the consequences completely useless plot-wise.
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>>151603913
>unsheathe sword
>that sound of metal scraping against metal
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>>151609997
>hime_eyebrows
Most pics with them aren't properly tagged though
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>>151609997
Hikimayu.

It's traditional Japanese beauty together with painting your face white and your teeth black.
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>>151610170
ain't nothing like aristocratic fashion
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>>151601259
>MC uses final move that will kill him
>Battle is won, demon king is defeated but for no real reason MC and friends say goodbye with MC going his own path and ex companions going together on a different one.
>companions keep fighting in a every time grimer and grimer world because the war ain't over yert while achieving victories not as important as the one that made MC use his final move but still quite resounding ones
>MC finds new party young and inexperienced but with the same personality archetypes ns the previous one and also keeps fighting but the tone of his part of the series goes back to the somewhat lighthearted style previous to the final battle in which he used his forbidden move.
>all while never hearing ot his original group's accomplishments
>the same screentime dedicated for each group with everything always going like shit to old group and everything conveniently falling in place for new one
>eventually old group is being pushed back and retreat to the capital
>they enter a hospital close to the palace
>MC is laying there in a coma
>forcefully with tears on their eyes wake him up knowing he hasn't recovered and tell him they need him again
>MC in a daze barely understands and uses his final move again
>the threat is defeated but MC falls dead on the spot
>final scene is the young second party of adventurers/soldiers/hunters/whatever that MC dreamt in his coma, getting ready to leave on their first adventure and when they go past the city's main door an statue of MC is there quietly overlooking all who enters and leaves the capital.
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>starts off normal
>sudden ultraedgy twist
And like 90% of the time it was better before the twist hit.
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>tfw no heian period waifu
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>>151610231
or
>mc does hear of old friend's achievements but doesn't seems to care, cares too little
>the only new party character that is not based on anyone from the old party finds it strange
>yada yada development it was MC subconscious and is the one who pushes MC to wake up at the end
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>>151598506
> don't tell me what to do now die!!!!!!!
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>>151609785
Or protecting others, depending on location
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>>151598851
Someone has the falcon beheading a duck webm?
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>>151610231
>>151610452
This is great if done right.
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>>151610838
Nah. How about this animal-related webm instead?
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>>151611015
l-lewd
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>>151599136
Naruto is so good
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>>151598506
>Villain was the good guy, all along.
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>>151611120
yeah lol
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>>151611015
Boner please
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>>151598506
The only time this annoys me is when the consequences of not using the technique are clearly worse. Like if you're going to fucking die if you don't use it, then who cares.
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>>151599317
>got away with everything
>got everything he wanted
>is now immortal
>can continue and is allowed to keep doing his evil deeds
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>>151599317
>HE WAS THE COOLEST GUY
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>>151598506
>>151613422
>MC, you need to stay alive so you can fight the Big Bad
>but feel free to learn/use this technique that might kill you
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>>151605609
He was able to beat Nappa without it, though. The only thing it did there was let him punch Nappa in the kidneys before he attacked Krillin and Gohan.

>>151608494
Vegeta tanked the Kaioken and Spirit Bomb. By the end, he only loses because Gohan sits on him as a giant ape.
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>>151608669
Toguro was scary as fuck, man.
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>>151598506
>Bad Guy gives a long monologue about truth and justice acting like he's in the right
>It's a hobby
>yfw
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>>151613935
You can see the exact moment where his soul breaks
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>>151607164
because he can throw and then contract his arms so fast his punches are "invisible to the normal eye"
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>"I love and want to bone MC because he was kind to me once"
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>>151614803
>I won't lose to you!

PFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>151608669

>Goku/Frieza fight
>starts off with them trading a few blows
>Frieza traps Goku in his death bubble, goes nucular with it
>turns a whole hemisphere of namek into a barren, ashen waste
>Goku's fine, Frieza goes "Well, that was good for a warmup"

Blew eight year old me's mind with that. All that shit going down and they STILL had yet to bring out the big guns
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>>151614803
That was because of the high jump though.
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>>151615627
Shit wrong thread.
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>being lustful for fights makes you literally Jesus
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>>151600785
>Make a new cast
>They act nothing like the old ones
>Keep a couple of the old cast in because it's the last installment
>Instead of killing the new guys off on Day 1 because their attitudes don't reflect the rest of the series, pick them off one by one until only two newbies remain
>New cast is useless in the long run
>The old cast carries the show anyway
> Resurrect another old cast to fill the void
>>
If they're fast enough to zoom up behind them, why don't they just stick their katana out while they pass the other dude by?
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>>151615033
It is worse when you know she never had a chance.
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>>151603915
That's actually the best though.
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>>151609794
>Mao-sama is a girl
>she's in love with hero-kun

Not bad when executed properly, but fucking tiresome.
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>>151607411
From what I understand, it was supposed to be a Harem Comedy, but half way through it turned into a pretty good fighting shounen, with a large cast of characters and a way to keep them all (at least a little) interesting.

The funny part was that UQHolder came out as "finally he can write a fighting shounen from the beginning", and it was actually a decent action harem-style.
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>>151600785
Always wanted a chance to post this
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>expect bad guy to have some boring light magic
>it actually makes all non virgins cum to death
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>>151598506
I hate it but fate does it well in heavens feel.
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>>151610296
>Oh look this fancy action harem comedy isekai thing where the main character is destined to be the hero.
>Oh the villain is also looking for a "hero" to take over the fantasy world, he's probably going to be that too.
>Hero meets the fantasy pope with both villain and hero girl.
>The hero refuses to mindlessly genocide the villains, and gives the pope shit for actually abusing the hero girl
>Timeskip to literal modern day apocalypse with demons and shit.
>"Oh, after that happened the pope stole the heroic girl's body, stole the hero powers you were supposed to get, and beat literally everything so badly you got amnesia of everything that happened."

I was just looking for a mindless harem with a kind of interesting setting/gimmick.
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>>151603861
>I wasn't fighting seriously, ZASSHU
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>>151615650
Shit, anon. Now I want to know too.
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>>151616923
I'm so fucking tired of fantasy christianity, man. They always get that shit wrong and either the whole church is evil or 90% of it is. Just fucking stop. Put in some polytheism or some shit, I don't even fucking care.
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>>151602005
Dude just watch Masterchef Jr and you'll feel like a fucking American even if you're French.
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>>151616927
Gil's an awful example because HE NEVER fights seriously. EVER
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>>151608917

>people still fight with swords
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>>151617050
At first it's refreshing, because outside of anime people tend to look at the idea of "villainising" religion weirdly.

Eventually it does become one of those things where it's probably a safe bet to just assume that if the church is prominent, they have some kind of secret evil goal or something. It's an easy way to get some kind of "what now" response, because usually the church is supposed to be helpful, and then TWIST it has ulterior motives and they aren't all good.

You probably won't get polytheism unless it's based on already existing religions in history, most people aren't willing to go through the effort to create a whole knew pantheon, and having a shorthand "religious organization" is just too useful for writers so they don't have to explain tenants and stuff to their readers, and can just go "most people get a general gist and don't know ALL the details, that means I don't have to explain the basics and get some room to play around".
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>>151617452
>because outside of anime people tend to look at the idea of "villainising" religion weirdly.
Nigga if I had to count the number of fantasy books and RPGs that villianise the church it'd overflow into the negatives.
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>character introduced that looks/feels super edgy and/or will-probably-betray-the-party-to-nobodies-surprise
>is actually a bro to the MC and puts his life on the line for the sake of the party/world/maguffin
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>that's no even my final form
>that's just x% of my power
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>>151598572
>>151598506
For the record DBZ was pretty consistent with the risk and reward of transformations: Kaio-Ken wore Goku out like crazy and fucked him up so bad he got put in the hospital, Great Ape form really did nothing but make you a bigger target, and the Mafuba Fucking killed you.
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>>151617569
Although I can't really remember betrayals in JoJo
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>>151616780
What was the story behind this?
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>I'm not even trying
>this isn't my final form anyway
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>>151598923
>Guess I have to use 'THAT'

>not posting the sequels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_NmRuW6848&t=1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-ET8BGp87o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agWa5R8qkIA
Thanks for shilling for me, Anon-kun.
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>character is told they are the reincarnation of someone
>they just blindly accept it and don't go through an identity crisis about it
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>>151609187
Yeah but getting shot in the fucking face didn't do it.
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I know there aren't too many narutards on /a/, but did anybody else get extremely triggered when Might Guy used the Gate of Death and Naruto flew out of nowhere and magically saved him? The fight was really enjoyable and I thought it would be a fitting end for his character.
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>>151601706
They're fun tho
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>>151619436
Didn't Nejj already die though? That should be enough for one fight
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>>151619483
Yeah, although I would've preferred Neji surviving. Guy already gave the speech about protecting the future generation, and Lee already accepted that he was going to die.

Naruto has examples of almost everything in this thread.
>Using the Inner Gates will harm the body
>Only use it in emergencies
>Later seasons have Guy and Lee use it for literally whos, and to push a boat
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>>151603622
Almost sounds like an episode from Ranma 1/2
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>>151619125
I don't see why that would be a big deal.
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>>151618423
He tried to kill his brother.
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>>151620098
ayyy lmao
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>>151599157
sounds like naruto, but more specifically sasuke.
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>>151602708
That's not how you treat introverts.
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>>151617969
Funcking Straizo is the only good-to-bad traitor in a 30 years old franchise
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>>151620098
no seriously?
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>>151609319
He's going to get it back.
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>>151618423
Use of forbidden jutsu in public
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>>151602115
You clearly never been to the US.
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>>151617969
>>151621011
Does Jobin count, at least from the Higashikata family perspective?
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>>151599499
Thanks for posting.
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>>151601386
Well you gotta pander to your audience silly. The fuck do you think your country does? Everyone tries to glorify their own country.
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>>151599702
One piece doesn't do this. A few villains teamed up with Luffy later on, but that was just because Luffy is chaotic neutral and it was convenient.
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>>151616794
I wonder how he first discovered it haha.
Talk about an awkward first date

But then again he probably just learned it later as an "appropriate" punishment for his victim or something. IDK, since magic can be learned. Maybe I'm thinking too much about this.
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>>151609437
It slotted into Bleach's spot pretty well for people. The basic bitch Shonen anime people like that isn't Naruto style or One Piece style. Plus the world itself is kind of interesting, compared to others.
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>>151613658
kek
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>>151598627
Luffy is a sociopath guys with a Gon tier moral compass for fuck sake the dude callously threatens to murder people all the time.
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>>151622269
>with a Gon tier moral compass
No
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>>151599779
Women are weak creatures when they hit men its funny to men becausd its so cute how they think they are a threat.
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>>151613658
>>HE WAS THE COOLEST GUY
I hate this translation so much. The original line was something more like "The Obito who wanted to be Hokage was cool."
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How would you fix Dragon Ball? what would you modified in the story?
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>>151622576
If you die, you don't get revived.
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>>151617050
its so overdone and bland
>crazy priest with god complex hes so evil muhahahahaha xD
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>>151622576
nothing, DragonBall is fine
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>>151622739
I see what you did there.
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Goku actually gets punished for his use of kaioken. Future Trunks' universe was completely destroyed because of it.
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>>151610296

GUILLOTINE GORILLA

Hail Torture
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>>151622576
Probably getting rid of fusions, it didn't add anything to the story of worth and just made some interesting(?) character designs that all ended up being jobbers to Buu.

For the anime specifically, I've preferred it if we kept the DragonBall animation of actually seeing the combat, but the flashes and bangs style of fighting where they're just moving super fast works fine.
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>>151598629
And there was also All Might using up the last of his power to stop AfO
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>>151603473
That's why I dropped it, to be honest.
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>MC spends entire anime plotting against antagonist
>Antagonist has long and tedious plot of evil and mayhem
>Antagonist has entire keikaku planned perfectly
>He actually pulls it off and wins
>Everybody is worse off for it and MC loses
How often does this happen?
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>>151598506
>shouting the name of your attacks before using them
>naming your attacks at all
There is no higher level of autism
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>>151623353
Death Note?
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>>151606971
whatanime.ga you daft cunt
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>>151621092
He won't because Togashi will not finish this shit
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>>151623384
Light was always the MC though.
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>>151623379
there is nothing wrong in naming them though
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>>151623624
I guess, just feels unnecessary t b h
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>>151623379
What's wrong with that? You don't think that the Kamehameha or the Kinniku Buster or the Rocket Punch sound cool?
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>>151623379
A lot of martial arts techniques in real life are named for identification purposes when communicating and teaching and in (systemic) magic systems you pretty much get led to a name organically. "Small fireball" vs. "Giant Fireball" for example. In divine magic systems there's usually no naming, the caster just kind of waves her hand and shit explodes
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>>151623353
Not really a proper anime, but I remember that happening in the finale in one of the seasons of avatar: legend of aang.
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>>151623733
The moves themselves are fine, but giving them a name, then shouting that name mid combat for all the world to hear is just cringy. It's basically telling everyone within ear / eyeshot of you "Hey, when I say this, I'm going to do this, so learn how to counter it next time". And honestly, it just looks and feels wrong. No one would do that in an actual fight.
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>>151623608
>Everybody is worse off for it and MC loses
I believe that was his point.
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>>151623379
What, don't you like fun?
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>>151601751

OfA fucks up Deku's body because of a psychological stopgate his mind puts on his use of the power.

Basically he should have been using a little bit of the power at all times rather than a lot of the power for very short bursts like he did.

He overcomes this by using very small amounts of the power in unique, clever ways.
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>>151624005
Fun is fun, but only during funtimes.
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>>151623882
In some series it is justified.

Like in Bleach, saying the name along with the incantation makes the spell much more stronger.
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>>151624238
Well in those situations It's fine, since it serves an actual purpose. It's just yelling it out for, seemingly, no apparent reason that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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>>151624238
Not justified for the two captains with "cool" Shikai activation incantations.
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>if you regain your memories you won't be the same person anymore...
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>>151624341
You mean those dual swords? I'm pretty sure that was only for when they were opposing Yamamoto, who also used the full activation incantation. Probably just trying to show off to each other since they weren't really enemies.
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>>151624473
I'm pretty sure they always say the incantation.
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>>151618607

Disappointed that this has not been posted already.
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>>151624460
>they regain it anyway
>their character doesn't change
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>>151624496
Actually, it has been established that once you unlock Bankai, incantations aren't required anymore.
Also, see Kyouraku's fight with Starrk where he released his Shikai instantly without the incantation, same with Ukitake to intercept the lasers.
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>>151601638
Literally why do you think that?
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>>151601706
Tournament arcs are fun, unless it's something like .hack//GU which is 75% tournaments
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>>151624602
So using it in fight with a random weak-ass intruder (Chad) made no sense, and was probably cringy in-universe.
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>>151624541
>they regain it anyway
>turns out they have at least four distinct personalities
>starts stalking and decapitating all the main characters
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>>151608921
>rubbery pinoy
Fuck why did I laugh to that.
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>>151624602

Ahhh yes, quite. I believe you are quoting sub-clause 6, of section 30 within volume 12 of shonen battles weekly, special edition on power levels, swordsmenship, and techniques that invalidate the previous topics. How could I forget.
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>>151624460
but in tripeace this remain true.
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>>151624752
Literally what the fuck is this post? Are you attempting to to that normalfag thing where when someone actually knows their shit you just scoff and pretend that being an effortless, uneducated piece of shit makes you better than someone who devoted time, love and effort into their hobby because you "have a life"?

No, I mean I'm very obviously ranting and slightly projecting here but what the fuck was the point of this fucking post?
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>>151624653
Eh he never used it against Chad. He just used the sealed normal form.
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>>151624867
I was misremembering, in fact I remembered him redirecting Chad's attack and it's not his skill at all.
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>>151624752
>sub-clause 6, of section 30 within volume 12 of

you sure this post wasn't meant for the /co/ cliches thread senpai?
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>>151617050
>either the whole church is evil or 90% of it is.

So like real life, you mean?
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>>151625020
Fuck off scum
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>>151625020
edgy af senpai
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>>151624460
fucking planescape
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>>151623379
thank you hajime no ippo for not doing this
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>>151625960
too slow
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>someone says "those eyes" or "look at his eyes" from at least 100 feet away

this shit really annoys me
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>>151626249

> protag and enemy dueling in a wide open space
> they break apart for some dialogue
> literally talking to each other in normal voices despite being over a hundred metres apart

Every time.
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>>151619125
Jojolion handled it well. Josuke starts crying as soon as he starts realizing where he comes from
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>>151626249
>you can feel his killing intent
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>>151602731
Read One Punch Man.
A villain there will work hard and beat the shit out of Saitama and it was so satisfying.
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>>151608948
holy shit yea, he did grew a little bit, but we deserved to have tsuna become a badass.
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>good concept
>excellent potential character development on every character introduced in the first 2 volumes
>no hints for a final boss meaning it could last for a long time
>loses traction and becomes a fanservice series
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>>151627468
>beat the shit out of Saitama
What manga are YOU reading?
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>>151608669
Toguro was a well done antagonist up until the point where the author decided to shit on him and say he was only a B-class demon, but I guess he just wanted to show how "scary" the next bad guy was so it's kinda fine.
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>>151624460
>regains memories
>snails everywhere

sometimes it's for the best that they don't
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>>151627852
You basically just described Fairy Tail.
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>An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind
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>>151628149
I dropped that shit right after the 7 years timeskip tournament, couldn't stand reading it, but in Fairy Tail's defense I'd argue that the author didn't drop the ball until 140+ chapters.
Also I was picturing Kenichi more than Fairy Tail, but being quite honest Kenichi was never an excellent manga, nor was it free of fanservice since the beginning.
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>>151617969
that was actually a drop plot point with Fugo.
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>>151608987
>>Character dies
>>Bring them back anyway because they're popular
/ourguy/
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>>151623353
I'm pretty sure this is exactly what happened in Chain Chronicle.
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>>151598881
Nice.
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>haha you can't beat me!
>hero actually can't beat him
>ends with hero begging the villain to stop
>ends up postponing his plans
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>>151629002
Yes, we know Shaman King is weird.
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>>151598506
>*grunts*
>*sighs*
>*tsk*
>do that at any situation
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>two characters who never got along/were always arguing with each other
>they finally get along and team up for a 10/10 bro moment
>one of them dies
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>>151615934
You forgot
>One of the newbies survives only because they were connected to the old cast
>The other because they needed somebody to carry that weight
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>Do super long Transformation
>Enemy attacks you right as you finish, and you're still posing

I fucking love Precure
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>>151625020
>>151625130
>>151625215
if you're talking about the old roman churches in history with the crusades, no they weren't evil as portrayed in media, but they were greedy and close-minded.
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>>151628512
>kenichi
to be fair kenichi did have a big bad but it turned out it was nothing or someone else the whole and also there was big bad but never ever hinted and only showed up at like the last volume or so to keep "superman" sensei busy
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>>151629354
There's nothing wrong with greed and close mindedness. The church didn't do nothing. What are you referring to specifically when you say close mindedness?
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>>151602731
>The identity of the villain is revealed in final episode
>They were there from the very beginning, and had gained both the protag's and viewer's trust
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>>151609886
Yeah to be honest FMA was the only shonen that did this right. Actually FMA is the only good shonen period.
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>>151629725
>the church ordered people to kill and pillage lands other cultures because they believed they were the one true religion and wanted to spread their seed.
>There's nothing wrong with greed and close mindedness
ok

>What are you referring to specifically when you say close mindedness?
hard to remember specifically but things like people weren't allowed to read.
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>>151620869
Sasuke fits it better because Naruto has literally only two attacks
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>"That's the super mysterious elite agent that has come back from dozen of suicide missions."
>"They call him Dead Liar because they think he's dead and he is lying about being alive."
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>start of the fight
>villain shows off some power
>hero immediately starts coughing up blood
>"Crap, I have internal bleeding... I think he broke a couple of ribs, too."
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>>151630354
but the shadow clone jutsu isn't an attack though
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>>151603882
>seconds
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>>151628149
>FT
>having a good concept, chara development, or not having a final goal (finding a dragon bullshit)
Not even the OST was good.
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>>151630025
There's nothing wrong with conquest and serfs like you have no business reading when they could be doing something productive
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>>151631738
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>>151630025
>people weren't allowed to read
Now that's a cool story, bro.
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>>151630025
>people weren't allowed to read
Laymen weren't allowed to read the Holy Bible sure, but reading in general? I mean if you got your hands on a copy of Discourses somehow and could read Greek...
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>>151632138
>Laymen weren't allowed to read the Holy Bible sure
Catholic church had printed bibles already before Reformation happened. The reason regular people in Middle Ages couldn't read even if they knew how to read (which was really a non problem - compare to knowing programing today) the Bible is because it was a very expensive book.
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>>151632138
ok my fault but did say I couldnt remember specifically. but didnt the church viewed teaching greek or learning greek as heresy? and so if you wanted to read the bible you had to learn hebrew.
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>>151598645
>Barely gives him an advantage after the first fight it's shown.
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>>151632218
>Catholic church had printed bibles already before Reformation happened'
they had scrolls and parchments.
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>>151627892
the webcomic version which is better
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>>151610231
what series is this
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>enemy way outclasses the MC
>"here, il give you a handicap"
>MC beats enemy
>"I cant believe I beat him"
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>>151632362
>beating the shit out of Saitama
>beating

I assume you mean Garou. That's not what happened.
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>>151601922
>Don't worry you can use this power without giving in to the darkness, I believe in you!
>T-Thanks Everyo- I WILL DESTROY ALL IN MY WAKE

This was supposed to trump Zexal, what the fuck happened?
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>>151632218
>printed Bibles
No they didn't and they had the Vulgate Bible, not Vernacular Bibles. Vernaculars got flat out banned like the first few English versions under Henry VIII. And while you were allowed to own the Latin Bible, it was expensive and nobody could read it (what do you mean non-problem? Nobody fucking knew Latin on that level, the Vulgate is not entry-level; can you read Assembly Code?), even when you could read it you weren't allowed to spread your interpretation.
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>>151632448
It still did. Zexal was straight awful for 70% of its run.
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>>151632264
Nah, the Bible was translated during late Roman times into a Latin codex.
As far as Greek I don't think it was a problem, the Greek Bible might've been heresy in the West because it was thought to be inaccurate but also because just about nobody knew shit for Greek. During Justinian's reign there were a series of natural disasters and poor policy choices that led to loss of many old Greek works and just as importantly fewer people who could translate.
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>>151632512
you mean 50% right, the varias were on point. of course shark had some backwards character development going on.
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>>151632571
>to loss of many old Greek works and just as importantly fewer people who could translate its a shame when of piece of history gets lost.
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>>151608987
Almost the entire cast of Naruto.
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>>151629189
Smile was fucking great when it made fun of mahou shojou cliches.
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>>151603664
>Hercules and Perseus
Are from a time when hero was just a synonym for "awesome" and not a moral indicator of any kind. They were heroes because they went around doing badass shit.
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>>151604397
Guy was still having troubles with his body with the future epilogue chapter, so it's not like he came out unscathed despite the healing.
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>>151633304
Wasn't he essentially a cripple, just like Lee was early on?
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>>151633265
That's because back then moral indicators were recognized as being flexible to an extent and people realized actually just flat out evil characters don't really exist. Homer makes even the 'bad guys' like the Trojans look like noble peoples to an extent. Hell, even in Medea it's meant to be ambiguous whether or not Jason deserved it.
I can't really think of any actually heroic characters besides people designed to be more or less literally fucking perfect like Jesus Christ. Killing people isn't in and of itself not heroic, especially in times when killing someone wasn't even that morally objectionable in circumstances. In fact refusing to kill someone who lost a duel or battle, which might be seen as noble and merciful today, may well have come off as insulting and purposeful humiliation for the sake of it.
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>>151602940
Read Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index. In some of its volumes, Kamachi thoroughly explores how villainous heroes are.
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>>151599291
He needs Deku to be ready before he bites the dust.
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>>151633750
>Index
>where you have villains who want to destroy a city just cause of an accident that wasn't their fault
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>>151623379
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>>151624679
Which series was this?
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>>151601314

I would have preferred that one of them willingly took Ueki's shot to save him (preferably Mori)
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>>151633843
Meanwhile someone like Fiamma is literally the Ends (Heaven and repairing Angel Fall) Justify the Means (Destroying the World), while Touma literally ties people to live helicopters rotors with an electric cable.
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>>151623760
Oh yeah, I think it's the part where the Alliance attacks Fire Nation in solar eclipse (that's been planned since the beginning) but it's actually an ambush.

That caught me off-guard.
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>>151633865
Dorohedoro
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>>151633405
Pretty much, I think he was in a wheelchair at least part of the time.
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>>151628149
>ou basically just described Fairy Tail.
Fuck that shit, Rave Groove is the one that should have been popular.
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>>151633430
>literally fucking perfect like Jesus Christ

And even him threatened to bring chaos to the world, put father against son and brother against brother.
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>>151634117
Jesus Christ is perfect by definition though, that's the built-in safety. The Judeo-Christian God is like an EXTRA abstracted version of Ahura Mazda's "choice of good" God. He is literally goodness and whatever he says is good by definition.
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>>151598881
pissed me off so much in iZombie
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>>151634230
>whatever he says is good by definition
Well, since God can't change his nature (at least if I understand Aquinas correctly), he can't change his mind. What is good was, is and will be forever and out of time. Which is exactly how God is.
I wouldn't equate this with Judaism. Even though I'm no expert, I do know their understanding of God is very different.
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>>151602940
You're thinking of bad protagonists who merely react to the events around them.
Nothing you said is a core compenent of heroes or protagonists.
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>>151620058
It depends on how the reincarnation is handled, but with the standard anime method, reincarnations are often pretty much the exact same or a slightly different 'version' of the original. After all a person lives through, being told you're the spitting image as a reincarnation of someone before you could probably make someone wonder if they even made their own decisions or think the way they do on their own.
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>looks 6
>acts 6
>I'm actually 1000 years old


>>151634271
blaine is such a good villain though
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>>151634483
I agree. Dunno how they managed to make such a horrible asshole so likeable
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>>151603939
>the genius works hard as well
>MC still outpasses them because MC works the harderest and natural talent means literally nothing lol
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>op/ed spoils the show
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>>151604896
>Misa dies a year after the finale of Death Note because she cut her lifespan in half like, 3 times
Good on you, Death Note.
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>>151634421
That's because the Jewish God Yahweh used to just be a normal pantheon god of fertility and war. Hence "I shall increase thine kin exceedingly" and all that shit and how he makes girls hundreds of years old fertile again. He's ALSO right by definition but for different reasons; not so much "God is synonymous with Goodness" as "God is a fucking God and he's right because he's a fucking God".
In the Christian sense there is no difference between God and Good. It's not that God includes Goodness, or that Goodness is what God is, they're not congruent or inclusive or completely overlapping, they're different names for the same thing. When people say "good", as far as Christians are concerned, what they really mean is "the nature of God".

>>151634474
I've never understood why it matters. It's a nonissue. The whole idea of the 'self' is your personality, your conciousness. You can't divorce "self" and "decisions / thoughts". It's the same shit when people say "how do you know we're not in a computer simulation and just an experiment" or "how do you know your free will isn't predetermined because of determinism". It's a circular argument. The correct answer is 'who the fuck even cares'?
>After we came out of the church, we stood talking for some time together of Bishop Berkeley's ingenious sophistry to prove the nonexistence of matter, and that every thing in the universe is merely ideal. I observed, that though we are satisfied his doctrine is not true, it is impossible to refute it. I never shall forget the alacrity with which Johnson answered, striking his foot with mighty force against a large stone, till he rebounded from it -- "I refute it thus."
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>>151634582
>Entire anime has a very serious and/or dark theme
>Episode ends on an equally serious note
>The next episode preview at the end is extremely lighthearted, slapstick humour and completely kills the mood the episode you just watched set
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>>151626397

He's not a reincarnation though, he just learnt he was created some days ago by fusing two guys, that's some serious shit.

Reincarnation on the other hand is a whole different thing. Ussually there's no way to explain how does it work, and it's too weird to think of someone who lived thousand of years ago as the same person as you. The only example of reincarnation I can think of right now is Avatar, and there they would talk to their past selves like if they were different people. Other examples like Shaman King or Saint Seiya merely use the reincarnation thing as a stand in for having a fate or mission to fullfill (which might raise other questions about free will) but they don't seem to feel any relationship to their previous selves.
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>>151634700
>it's a beach episode
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>>151634623
>"God is a fucking God and he's right because he's a fucking God"

That the literal interpretation the Book of Job gives of God (I would only add he is THE fucking God, the only one). But it's also underscored all around the Old and New Testament, God is right because who's going to tell him he isn't?
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>>151634778
The problem most people (who aren't edgelords) have with the old testament is that God's punishment can be very brutal. desu I didn't have a problem with it

Even though history isn't linear we can say people changed for the better in some way, especially when dealing with each other in large societies/empires/democracies/whatever, right? I tend to see it as old testament being a very strict and "lawyer-like" law for people who aren't ready and new testament as made for humans who are ready to forgive more - especially when circumstances aren't that clear cut.
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>>151602940

That's why I started to like anime over cartoons when I was a child. Even if their objectives are silly things like "I want to have an easy life" or "I want to be Hokage", they had some kind of ambition. Most cartoons at that time were superhero cartoons, and they would just ussually focus on screwing up a villain. Even outside cartoons, you have narratives like Harry Potter who is as shallow as any harem mc and was chosen out to defeat Voldemort because fuck it.

It doesn't mean that anime handles it right or is inherently better than cartoons for that, it's just a detail that I liked, mc having ambitions.
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>>151634580
I didn't like that part with eyeshield vs shin but I guess the author had to since he wrote himself into a corner with hyping up shin to a hardworking genius but at least he gets BTFO by panther later.
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>>151634778
The OT God is right because 'who is going to tell him he isn't.' But the NT God is right because he is the definition of being right.

>>151634846
>for the better
No we can't. We can say people have changed or have gotten closer to the present way of thinking but we can't say people have gotten 'better'.
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>>151634846

It seems right if you look at it from the perspective of their evolving culture. Interpretations of Christianity have changed countless times during 2000 years and it was ussually to fit in the particular view of different people in different eras.

God's punishment against Egyptians is one of the most standing examples, but it's logical if you think of it as Hebrews trying to explain their own story through their faith. But a God with limitless power that can free his people however he chooses, but still decides to inflict suffering on random, innocent people just to show off his power before freeing his people anyway it's really hard to swallow.
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>>151635010
>"Tell your bitch to not look back, or she'd be VERY salty about it."
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>>151635010
egyptians were black
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>>151635010
>innocent
That's the thing. They're NOT innocent. It still fits with the Christian view of God. If God tells you to not look back and you look back and he turns you into salt, you're in the wrong and God isn't being excessive at all.

>>151635047
The point of the matter is God being omnipotent doesn't mean He has to be omnipotent in the manner we think would be nicest. In a sense you can view Judeo-Christian shit as borrowing a lot from Zoroastrianism, where being good and christian is the act of choosing God. He's not going to force you to choose Him, that's up to you, but he can still punish you.

>>151635090
So were the Greeks according to some Columbia University (yeah the one in NYC) professor. Black Athena anyone?
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>>151634979
>No we can't
With the exception of 20th century which was all around terrible, Mongol raids and later emergence of Mohammad, I think we can. At least in Europe and Middle East, which is where Christianity appeared and was tailored to.

>>151635010
>hard to swallow
Different times. Back in the day Monarch was a personification of the people, so it made sense. Today we think of individuals as isolated, which may be a bit too skewed into the other side. Definitely if we approach this from the perspective of a believer - it's Kingdom of God, not democracy.

Though who knows what actually happened. Both testaments deal with paraboles a lot and Jews loved to turn everything into big stories. That doesn't make the story invalid, but who knows - maybe only a thousand jews ran from Egypt and only a few dozen Egyptians died. The important point is that God protected the jews and Egyptian pharoh was bad and it cost him his country, family and life.

>>151635109
>God isn't being excessive at all
I have a feeling if it was in new testament, God may give him a second chance, but that's generosity. In Christian world view we're all guilty of something. Grace which allows entrance into heaven is a gift, not our right. Supposedly it'll be given to anyone who repents earnestly, but it's not a right you can demand.
Even then, dying in this life is nothing. Maybe Job entered heaven afterwards and nothing was really lost if you believe.
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>>151635109
>If God tells you to not look back and you look back and he turns you into salt, you're in the wrong and God isn't being excessive at all.
I laughed. I now know how stewie felt when he read the bible(i think it was) for the first time.

>you want to leave this house gonna have to catch these hands first

>Black Athena
bueno. jpg
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>>151635173
>that story in genesis where a group of men said to the owner of the house a group of travelers were staying "they will not leave until we have sex them"
>"bro thats gay"
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>>151635173
>maybe only a thousand jews ran from Egypt
there isn't any archaeological evidence of hebrew slaves in egypt at all
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>>151635278
It's not hard to believe it'd be considered a big embarrassment and evidence destroyed. Especially if it wasn't six gorillion people. I don't really intend to fight for them being there, I'm comfortable shrugging my shoulders.

>>151635252
Which one is that again?
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>>151635430
genesis chapter 19 literally the first few sentences, of course im using the NIV version but its in sodom and gomorah.
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>>151610231
Write it.
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>>151617569
kakbroin
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>>151599817
Kaiouken literally saved his ass every time he used it.
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>>151634610
should've killed her the second she appeared on screen
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