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Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu

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ECHIDNAAA!!

Arc 4 Ch.81 https://mega.nz/#!JMM3BDhK!ItILLQlUh1T7J3-c2mPUsl2BEKlNP6EgJtz6tXC7UeY

We got another translation by Lemon too
"Beatrice and Rem's Service is Tough"
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ps5lqro6W_ynFJdjzi7ok-s5QAo9FZyNA2skrrhheUc/edit
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Nice general.
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>>151571908
Was this the price for that info on Garfiel?
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>>151571908
>Please recommend me more Rem content if I somehow managed to miss anything. I love Rem

Speaking of that, is he still doing arc 6 stuff?
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>>151571908
>"Beatrice and Rem's Service is Tough"
I figured out how to buy the first part. Now to debate whether I'm willing to actually fork over about 25$ for it.
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>>151573255
He was thinking about it. Possibly once he's done with all Rem stuff he was willing to do.

>>151573301
You know it's probably just 13 pages, and fairly inconsequential, but cute happenings.

I figure it may not be that worth it.
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>>151573345
It's something everyone will be able to read once it's scanned and translated into the wild web. That's worth it, I guess.
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>>151573301
If you have paypal or something I'll give you the money to buy all the Rem short stories if you're willing to transcribe them. Idk if you have a scanner or not.

>>151573255
I might do it now, but I really don't know yet. I'll spend this day thinking about what to do next
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>>151573345
>I figure it may not be that worth it.
It might not.
>>151573420
>everyone will be able to read
If only there were some way to split the cost. Ah well.
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>>151573589
When Tappei continues, pls translate the chapters
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>>151573629
Money isn't the problem in my case but rather using a random moon site and mailing it to Lemon or someone else seems like a real pain.
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>>151573589
>If you have paypal
Yes
>>151573589
>I'll give you the money to buy all the Rem short stories if you're willing to transcribe them. Idk if you have a scanner or not.
Yes, yes, and yes. Not sure how many I can actually track down, since some of these are so rare that they go for hundreds of dollars on auctions, but I think I can get this one easily enough.
>>151573737
>mailing it to Lemon
I have a scanner.
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>>151573589
Could you do some more Rem stuff from arc 3? Maybe the Al scene? It's pretty important for foreshadowing but I've only seen the manga version.
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>>151571908
>5-pages chapter

There was so little advancement in the story that I'm left with a killing desire for more. Chapter 82 when?
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>>151573653
I will
>>151573842
I'll look through arc 3 again and see if there's anything that might be worth doing

>>151573765
Alright if you ever decide to buy it just pm me your paypal. I'll only be able to give up to $100 for a single story though since I'm just a mere college student and am not rich or anything
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>>151573942
From the PST timezone I reside in it's usually close to midnight when a new chapter drops. I bet Tappei just wanted it to end dramatically on a cliffhanger.
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>>151574315
>I'll only be able to give up to $100
I don't think I'm even going to try for anything that expensive. Especially not for a single story.
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What sidestory includes the haircut?
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I don't understand. What are you people buying? Text files of story drafts that somehow never appeared on the internet despite being bought and sold?
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>>151574745
There are short stories written for store specials. You can hardly find them anywhere, and I just found a post in Chinese with some guy basically saying he spent thousands of dollars on these.
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>>151574985

>he spent thousands of dollars on these
>he spent thousands of dollars on these
>he spent thousands of dollars on these
>he spent thousands of dollars on these
>he spent thousands of dollars on these

Holy fucking shit.
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>>151574745
They're limited print sidestories. It just might be scanned somewhere already though if we're lucky. Really though, if we're very patient we could just wait for a new tanpenshuu volume that compiles a bunch of these.
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>>151575053
If you were willing to spend that much on Fairy and Kurushu you'd have your ex volume by now.
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>>151575058
>wait for a new tanpenshuu volume
One of the really rare ones is a Rem one that was released back in 2014. It goes for about 300$ on its own because of how rare it is.
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>>151575127

I don't want to be broke.
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>>151575148
Whoever buys it better scan it for the greater good.
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I just realized.

>Subaru "cured" Crusch of dragon AIDS
>Subaru and co will find a cure for Gluttony

>proclaimed best healer in the land
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>>151575411

Yeah yeah
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>>151575212
Well, I'm currently looking more into this right now. I think that crazy fucker is where the Chinese translations came from.
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>>151575411
To be fair, Subaru has a lot of weird shit going on when it comes to witch powers

>Sees the unseen
>Does not go insane from whale mist
>Can acquire witch powers from dead bishops
>Smells like Satella
>Corrupt blood makes him stronger instead of killing him

Did i miss anything?
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>>151575540
SOON
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>>151575540
Attracts little children and mourns over a potato.
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>"Crusch-sama must feel great pain. Not understanding anything, remembering nothing... So, do not you think she does not want to fight? True? It is not like this?

>As if begging him, Ferris's facial expression as he turned to see Crusch was collapsing. He had completely lost all the attitude he had until a few moments ago, even now his face in profile denoted that he was about to cry although he tried to hide that weakness.

>Despite that, he longed with all his heart that Crusch was not hurt.

>"Ferris, thank you very much for caring about me.

>Before Ferris who made his true feelings known, Crusch smiled gently.

>Crusch placed his hands over Ferris's trembling hands, then looked steadily at Subaru and the others.

>-Crusch-samaa ...

>In the sobbing state in which Ferris was found, it was impossible for him to continue participating in the conversation.

>Crusch who was hugging Ferris turned to where they were and apologized.
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>>151575540
>Regularly talks to the souls of Witches and Archbishops that have died
>Has friendly relations with said Witches and Archbishops

This is probably the biggest one.
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>>151575498
Anyhow, I said this in a previous thread, but I can confirm it now. Al knew Ram's name without being told.

The title of that short story is kind of funny, even if I'm not sure how to put it succinctly. Something like "Ram's Refusal to be Picked Up", in the sense of people hitting on her.
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>>151576409
>Regularly
Nah. It's just begun. "Regularly" might happen in the future.
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>>151576411
Oh, and the translator really is the same guy who spent a shit ton of money on these. I think they just called him the local equivalent of "based".
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>>151576681
He may be crazy spending thousands to get those novels but he is indeed based
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>>151576409
>Friendly

More or less. And Bishop one he didn't even interact.
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>>151576754
Yep. Google translate renders the gist of these translations legible, so it's kind of funny to see. Unfortunately, a bunch of random stuff keeps coming out as "World of Warcraft". Anyhow, it seems Rem really likes making pinkie promises with Subaru.
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>Rem and the others are cured but Subaru went comatose in exchange
>Emilia and Rem are the substitute MCs

I kind of want an arc like this.
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>>151576954
>It seems Rem really likes making pinkie promises with Subaru.

The cute thing is he hasn't broken a single one as of yet. Or has been fulfilled.
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>>151577065
*has already been fufilled
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>>151577024
Sounds like fun, especially if Subaru spends that time trapped inside his head with the Bishops/Satella.
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>>151576954
There's this you can use to cross reference

http://pastebin.com/4uTPvZqM

It was summarized by an ESL and then cleaned up a bit.
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>>151577024
You would need Subaru's book and Gospel for that first.
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>>151577024
>Rem and the others are cured but Subaru went dark lord in exchange
>Emilia and Rem are the substitute MCs
I want this
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Can Rem be cured of her acquired mayo dislike?
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>>151577810
No
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>>151577217
I've seen that before. You can find the forum post for it here, with a few other stories on earlier pages.

http://partner.tieba.com/p/4710442066?pn=3

I'm going to look over the ones that have already been done, and go see if the translator got any more done than I know about.
>>151577065
He kind of failed the most important promise, but not intentionally and he's definitely trying to set that one right. But yeah, the story makes it out to be a habitual thing. It also mentions that Rem realizes she's been moving up closer to him when they were sitting on the sofa together.

I think I fully understand the focus of this story now, and why it's called "The Best Day of Rem's Life". She spends a lot of it worried that Subaru might be secretly scared of her, before he puts her worries to rest. She was actually trying to bring up the subject of how she almost killed him a few times, and thought she was actually going to end up killing him before the dog incident. Though he interrupts her before she actually says she was going to kill him, and she's pretty terrified she may have broken the "illusion of intimacy".
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>>151578055
Subaru should really continue fixing her lack of self-confidence and complexes once she gets back.
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>>151577810
>said he would die if he didn't swim in the stuff
>he almost drowns

Really makes Rem think.
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>>151578192
Well, they can do it for each other, can't they? But yes, she was really happy that Subaru really did trust her and feel safe around her.

Also, some forums posts about how Rem scenes taste like a mix of shit and sugar after what happens later in the story. I think they're referring to the coma.
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>>151578192
Both of then were already on a good path towards that, the problem is the coma.
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Found all of the pages of one of the stories posted somewhere.
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>[Emilia: Since we’re here already, I thought I’d like to see what you have to wear beside maid outfits.]

>[Rem: Subaru-kun was one thing, but for Emilia-sama to be suggesting this as well…]

>[Emilia: Oh, Subaru was telling you the same thing too? I think I understand a little better what he was thinking, now. It’s so much fun seeing all your cute clothes, after all.]

>[Ram: Though in Barusu’s case, his ulterior motive was obvious, so the idea was dismissed.]

The clothes thing comes up a lot more often than I expected. This needs to be illustrated.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1butlirEZlyNPMJ1_hzUuy28DCnELXshWpeXiFSikCx4/mobilebasic
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>>151578403
This scene is quite sad in hindsight.

>[Rem: Subaru-kun would you……]

>Then, Rem’s suddenly lowers her voice in this quiet room with only the two of them left in it.
>When he looked in that direction in silence, his eyes met hers, as she looked up at him clearly.

>[Rem: If I’m gone, will you remember me for about as long as that?]

>[Subaru: ……That doesn’t sound like good luck, so I don’t want to answer.]

>Subaru says those words with a discouraged voice and pokes Rem’s forehead with his finger.
>When she touched that finger that was on her forehead with her hand, she had a smile on her face as if indicating she received the answer she was looking for.

The devious part being that he wrote this before the coma.
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>>151571908
Everyone who has dealt with Echidna has said that at least once I bet.
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>>151579345
Its probably a common sentiment
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>>151579002
Also just discovered there's no reason to buy Garf and Ram, or Frederica's story. I just found raws. Some guy on those forums has been uploading these lately, as in the past few days.
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>>151579724
Yep. Got all of the pages of those two. More might even be posted later!
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>>151576409
>>151576785
He doesn't have friendly relations with them. He's practically engineered the deaths of two of them and capture of another. This not what comrades do.
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So, how many time had passed since Subaru got in the that world?
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>>151580473
By arc 4, about 2 months or so. arc 6 is about a year I think, maybe more
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So how will Subaru get inevitably fucked in the end?
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>>151580623
Sealed like Satella or along with her if he tries to save her despite her wish to die.

Or he loses RbD by the last arc and dies for real.
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H Echidna doujin when?!
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There's only about 3-5 people that actually love Subaru, right?
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>>151581549
Rem
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>>151581549

If the author cares to have a decent ending, none of that matters and Rem will win.
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>>151581549
Are we talking romantically? It's 2 and maybe 3 if you count Satella, and if you're in the Satella=Emilia crowd then it's just 2 again. Petra has a crush but it's a little kid crush that will fade with time. Where's the fifth supposed to be from?
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>>151581754
>and if you're in the Satella=Emilia crowd then it's just 2 again
I really feel like it should be more than this, but I still think it'll be this in the end.
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>>151581808
He pooped on the Subaru=Flugel theory by having them explicitly look nothing alike to the point that it's brought up in story so he might not be going for that low hanging fruit.
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>>151581879
Or it's just deflection. I don't know, I just feel like the end result is going to be something rather drab compared to the rest of things.
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Is Ram a real bro?
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>>151581879
Physical appearance feels like the dumbest point to completely disregard the theory on when there's still potential for bullshit like soul transfusions or inherited covenants.
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>>151581966
Not really? She's too into clown cock. She'll help out, and she's not a bad person, but she's going to be sarcastic about it the whole time and then go right back to the clown cannon to recharge.

She's probably an okay wingman for helping with Rem, but Subaru doesn't really need help there to begin with.
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>>151581969
Body possession seems to be experimental magitech related to Echidna and Roswaal. I think the only reliable Subaru approved way would be the Lust authority, but would it manifest as a transformation power? Would the Subaru who's come to value himself more change himself to such an extent that this was the likeness Shaula remembers him by?
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>>151581927
At the very least I'm sure we're missing so many puzzle pieces that when we learn of them we'll look back on our early theories and laugh.
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>>151581966
She's a sister through and through. Kind of annoying or rude most of the time but deep down she still cares for you.
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>>151581549
As of the current arc? 3 (Emilia, Rem and Petra)

That said Petra doesn't really matter.
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>>151581879
That doesn't deny the theory. You're reincarnation don't have look like your past selves.
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>>151582584
Well, there Satella too, but she kinda of complicated.
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>>151575206
I guess you don't love them that much, after all.
How sad.
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>>151582649
He can't just be a reincarnation, since Satella says she has not loved anyone else other than him, and talks about him saving her, so it's pretty clear there's a past there.

She wouldn't refer to a reincarnation like that.
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Why do they look perturbed?
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>>151571908
That bitch, Echidnaaaaa!
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So if Elsa kills Ram this time around she'll have killed every meido
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>>151583614
Also has top kills on Subaru in the LN I think. She's playing for score.
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>>151583813
>Most of Africa doesn't have Re:zero as favorite anime of 2016

I wonder why.
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>>151583666
Isn't that Rem? I suppose Rem's indirect score will be higher.
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>>151583969
Haven't been forced in arabs' net?
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>>151584090
Rem only has 1.
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>>151583813
>Literally every single thing reporting on it is sucking Yuri on ice's dick

Was Yuri on ice really that much of a hit, or are news sites just trying hard to pander to it because of the gay stuff going on?
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>>151584298

I thought she had two at the mansion
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>>151584640
Mansion loop 1 -> curse
loop 2 -> Rem
loop 3 -> Ram
loop 4 -> suicide
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>>151584298
>indirect
I mean two direct kills at the mansion, two suicides, death after the first meeting with the White whale.
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>>151584752
If you're going to count like that, the entire counter turns into a huge mess.
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Every thread until Rem wakes up.
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>>151583813
>Italians liked berserk

What the fuck is wrong with them
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>>151583813
No way, I can't believe that the Philippines' top 2016 anime is Yuri on Ice.
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Good news everyone, Elsa doesn't kill Petra in the LN! She gets crushed to death by the Guiltyrau instead

Petra and Subaru are in the courtyard (or somewhere idk) heading towards Rem's room to evacuate her when there is a sudden impact from above and Subaru's vision "is filled with red". When Subaru regains consciousness he's severely injured, and being carried around by a badly injured Patrasche who's running from the Guiltyrau. Before it can kill Patrasche, she throws Subaru onto the 2nd floor near Rem's room.

The last thing Subaru remembers is holding onto Petra's arm. When he looks down, he's still holding onto it, except it's been severed from the elbow

(As you can probably tell, pretty much everything after Subaru returned to the mansion changed. A lot)
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I wonder if the rabbits could take on the White Whale.
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>>151586511
It's funny that the mabeast everyone thought would be cut came back with a vengeance.
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>>151586511
Its still nice but, why didn't they just include the World Ending chapter? He was pretty good in that one. Is it because of censorship?
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>>151586511
>Guiltyrau

What is this
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>>151586781
EBONY KING OF THE FOREST
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>>151586511
Please don't pussify Subaru LN editors
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>>151586614
Fucking hell wasn't the Guiltylaw supposed to be cut??
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>>151586511
You know all these changes are making me a bit worried. They might really be making arc 4 shorter than arc 3 and remaking it from the ground up.
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>>151586781
A manticore or chimera more or less. In the original it shows up in the last loop as a special fuck you from Meili and it just jobs. It was basically a joke character.
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>>151586978
I'm sure the witchy bits are all intact.
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>>151586978
Why? Arc 4's major plotpoints weren't bad or anything, why are they doing this?
Is this because they want to make a season 2 and they're making Tappei cut corners in order to fit arc 4 and 5? Could be a possibility, but that could ruin everything.
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>>151586511
Kinda makes more sense, since so far we didn't see jack shit from Meili, even though she's supposed to be helping.
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>>151583813
>Africa
>Sousei no Onmyouji

My niggers got good taste
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>>151587081
The main plot points don't seem to be touched. How the events transpired don't seem to be affecting any major plot points.

Plus, in this case it makes sense for Subaru to job, since a freaking Manticore assaulted them by surprise when Subaru was prioritizing the safety of survivors.
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>>151587137
Oh ok. The only change I would like is Subaru actually killing something with his Authority of Sloth (The Guiltylowe seems like the perfect candidate)
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>>151586826
It seems that instead of cutting it, he instead made it actually relevant to the plot.
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>>151587081
The major plot points are still there but it wasn't an uncommon criticism that the arc was padded with roadblocks that didn't really need to be there or were drawn out too long. Tappei also feels like he didn't set stuff up soon enough it seems. For example, Meili just kind of shows up in the WN. Now readers can anticipate her on account of her minion fucking an entire loop. The same goes for the moment Subaru suspects Frederica of giving Elsa information, the clown and Ram have been planting the idea in his head since the arc started in the LN (I don't really think it was too random in the wn though. He had to suspect someone and he didn't realize just how far down the rabbit hole Roswaal would go.)
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>>151586511
So we aren't going to see Subaru go man mode trying to save Petra from Elsa? We won't see Subaru dragging her dead body around? Nor will e see the double suicide and Subaru making Beatrice cry?
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>>151587418
Editors are pussying out. This is fucking Re:Zero were talking about here, they are cutting too many corners.
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>>151587418
We might see some of that.
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>>151587222
I'm not the guy who is reading through to find differences by the way.
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>>151587487
I'm sure they are making the right decision.

Right?
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>>151587487
Anon, you're only getting off hand info and we don't know how the rest transpired.

For all we know Subaru did some pretty ballsy shit in order to free Petra from Elsa.
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What does Rem's butt smell like? Blueberry?
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>>151586978
I don't think it will be. This is a failed loop, so none of this is really affecting anything except making things more "exciting" (I guess that's subjective, but I personally liked the mansion fight a little more)

>>151587418
He still uses Shamac against Elsa (although it's a bit different, since Frederica and Ram are also with him. Frederica is the one who ends up saving Petra (pic related))

(Also I don't know if I'm the only who was confused by this, but the thing Petra holding onto isn't Frederica's hair. It's her tail. A really really hairy tail)

Subaru isn't dragging her dead body around, but he is holding onto her severed arm.

Attempted double suicide and the Beatrice parts are still the same (I haven't finished the Beatrice parts yet but so far they're the same)
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>>151587418
I'm sure the Beatrice part will definitely happen at some point in some way. It's pretty much needed to lead up to her suicidal speech and to effect the outcome of Donadona's contract.
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>>151587617
She thinks her nee-sama is the shit and probably uses the same soaps and shampoo as her.
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>>151587723
So what does Ram smell like? Strawberry?
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>>151587667
>Frederica is the one that saves Petra
>Not Subaru
>Subaru isn't unknowingly carrying her body thinking she's alive
>Its an arm instead

This is somewhat upsetting
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>>151587764
I dunno, it sounds fine to me.

Him holding on to a piece of Petra and right after having Patrasche save his life and probably die itself is pretty damn sad.
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>>151587748
Probably. Or a citrus fruit to match her personality. So Remu is a blueberry that smells like a strawberry.
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>>151587764
If he thinks he's still holding onto Petra when he comes to it would amount to the same thing. No clue if it's like that though.
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>>151587926
Considering he was unconscious before Patrasche saved his life he was probably thinking he still held onto Petra.
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>>151587819
Yeah, but it doesn't have the same punch you know what I mean? What made World Ending so special was due to how it made the reader feel Subaru was really alone and is bearing a great burden. It feels somewhat light-hearted with all the people helping him to fight compared to that. You know what I mean?
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>>151587960
It makes more sense since he was most likely going there early in order to stop it, and getting help from Ram makes sense too.

Plus, it not's like he wasn't alone after shit started to go down again >>151587667 he still tried for double suicide.
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>>151587960
I can see what you mean but at the same time this is better structured as far as the overall pacing and plot threads go since a lot got crammed into the end with barely any introduction. It's a trade off in that sense.
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>>151588020
The double suicide things isn't really my concern but rather the events leading up to it due to the tone of desperation of events unfolding that lead up to the suicide. Since it feels like Subaru was somehow made more pathetic with Patarche doing all the running and everyone getting injured compared to WN Subaru who had 3 fingers cut off, throwing knives jutting out of his body, coughing up blood and a flayed arm that he wanted to cut off.
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>>151588173
Anon, those may still be there. Plus it's even more desperate since the freaking Chimera is attacking, can't really fault Subaru on that one.

If i remember right Elsa kills him that loop too according to the anon reading through.
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>>151588173
You have to realize that the earlier volume combined bits of the original world ending loop with the surprise Elsa attack to move things along but that means he would have to approach this loop differently from the WN version by going early like the kiss of death loop. Otherwise he'd be really clueless. More than people meme he is. It's a shame but it can't necessarily go the same way.
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Here's a rare non mind broken short haired Emilia.
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>>151588125
True, but that's the price of shortening arcs I guess, hopefully they do some service with everything else.

>>151588173
Also the fact that he had to do almost everything by himself when it came from running away from Elsa and combating her rather to Rem's room to keep her alive with Freddie being jobbed adding tension to the situation. As well as Subaru doing all the running rather than getting carried by Patarche which makes him more I guess interesting. Plus I'd be nice to have kept this little gem.

>Yet worrying about Frederica, Subaru must follow her words and ensure Petra remains protected.
>He taxes his trembling legs to stand. His feet lead him to the fallen Petra's side. And, he goes to pick her up—
>—When there, buried from her head's rear to her nape, he spots the crooked knife.
>Blood trickles from her mouth, brain lies spilt from her fractured skull. Fresh bloodshed seeps heavy into her soft chestnut hair. Her gentle, warm hands no longer move.
>Subaru lifts his right arm. He sees a pathetic bundle of flesh missing three fingers and half a forearm. The kukri he had attempted to halt had torn straight through to strike Petra. Now presented with this, Subaru thus had protected not a single thing.
>Subaru: “—aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!”
>Bloody does his ruined throat shriek.

Continuity, pacing and flow-wise it makes sense but it sort of lost its little charm. When you make it look like Subaru isn't the one soloing a number of things by himself and is instead getting help from outside sources.
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>>151588373
I don't know. Those triangles remind me of broken glass.
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>>151588409
While going solo on things sounds nice and badass, it's also stupid, since he is extremely fucking aware that he died to Elsa last time, and he knows just how strong she is. Relying on others is hardly a shameful thing, it's a staple of Re:Zero.
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>started the first episode
>It's literally the main character complaining about how this rpg sucks.
Neat
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>>151589345
Remember that about the MC as you go forward. It explains a lot about his actions later on.
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>>151586978
>>151587081
You guys need to stop freaking out about nothing. They are cutting or reducing parts that were most just fluff. I mean enjoy those bits myself, but weren't super necessary. Especially compared to improving flow and pacing.

Tappei did the same for Arc 3 was longer in WN than in LN. Arc 4 just had more of it.

>>151587764
Why you even be mad about this? He was working together Frederica and Ram to free her since they were there.

>>151588173
It don't stop everybody from dying so he despair is still there that leads up to it. Besides Frederica was also holding off Elsa like she did WN, for Subaru to escape with Petra. It's just that now Ram and Patarche were helping too.
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>>151589735
>It don't stop everybody from dying so he despair is still there that leads up to it.
Well, I didn't read it, so I can't judge it myself. However, it does strike me as something that changes the tone of the loop. Not all flavors of despair are the same.
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While I'm here I might as well just post the rest of the LN changes so far. (I'll put them in a pastebin or something later when I'm less lazy)

Starting from when Subaru and Ram arrive back at the mansion. Subaru hugs Petra (like in the WN) and Ram is like "You're disgusting". Then Petra introduces herself to Ram since it's their first time meeting and it's cute.

And then a change that will probably piss off a lot of you, that scene that everyone posts here all the time where Subaru sits by Rem's bedside is gone/changed. It starts off the same, but since Ram is also with him meeting Rem for the first time, she asks him (pretty nicely) to leave the two of them alone for a while.

Since he can't really refuse that, he leaves, and runs into Frederica.

(It seems like 90% of the changes can be attributed to Ram being at the mansion this time, which was the clown's idea. So if you don't like any of the changes, just blame the clown)
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>>151589894
>And then a change that will probably piss off a lot of you, that scene that everyone posts here all the time where Subaru sits by Rem's bedside is gone/changed.
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>>151589735
Please fix your grammar. I wouldn't normally care too much but you regularly delete your posts and make them long so you might as well get some basic conjugations correct.
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>>151589894
>Subaru sits by Rem's bedside is gone/changed

Well fuck me then
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>>151589894
They added a scene with Rem and Petra in the previous volume anyway so we're trading 1 for 1.
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>>151589894
Ram being at the mansion really was my main concern. It didn't really make much sense to me as something that would actually add to the story, except to have Subaru make a wasted effort to talk to her about Rem which inevitably gets erased and therefore leads nowhere.
>>151590025
I don't think that's really the same. Also, is there any translation for that one anywhere?
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>>151589894
He may still talk to Rem in the future maybe.
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>>151586781
http://rezero.wikia.com/wiki/Demon_Beast#Guiltylowe
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>>151589894
Then, Subaru and Freddie don't talk about the demihuman war or her and Garf's backstory or being 1/4 or any of that. Instead Subaru just straight up asks her what her reason for setting up the "trap" was (the teleporting crystal thing from volume 10).

Of course, Freddie has no idea what he's talking about, and eventually Subaru realizes that's she's probably telling the truth. So he then asks why she lied about the crystal being necessary to enter the Sanctuary (Roswaal said it wasn't necessary) and she clams up because "muh pledges".

So then Ram (who had rejoined them at that point) pulls out her staff and is like (paraphrased) "Let's restrain her and drag her back to the Sanctuary so she can talk" and Subaru is like "Holy shit bitch calm the fuck down" and Frederica is like "Well if you want me to come there I guess I can??"

And just as they're about to leave (with Subaru thinking that he'll finally be able to figure out who's behind everything), Elsa shows up with hostage Petra. That's the end of chapter 1.

(I'm confused about how much Ram knows about the "framing Frederica" thing. It seems she believes her when she says she doesn't know anything but also suspects she's hiding something? Maybe I've misunderstood something here)
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>>151589894
>always accuses Barusu of deviancy
>the clown she loves enslaved her at a young age and took advantage of her

What did Ram mean by this?
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>>151590119
>have Subaru make a wasted effort to talk to her about Rem which inevitably gets erased and therefore leads nowhere.
Sort of. It lets him get her thoughts about Rem out a little bit without losing memories as gets covered later, telling her all about Rem is apparently not a great idea.
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>>151590341
Why isn't it? Does Ram freak out?
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>>151589894
The changes sound fine to me. Especially since we get more Ram in this arc who had been slidelined for too long since Arc 2 anyway. I don't even think Ram and Petra even interacted n the WN. Also ditto for more Meili as >>151587355 explained. It seem like LN version just better setups up for a lot of stuff than WN did.
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>
In contrast to Ram’s outfit that had been made with an eye towards a soft splendor, Rem’s clothes were abundant with frills, producing a sweet ambiance not unlike something that would seem fitting for Beatrice, another of the mansion’s residents. With left and right ponytails adding to the effect, the combination of Rem’s gentle eyes and her attire shone brightly.

Wait, that twintail Rem thing happened?
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>>151590372
The memories are being eaten continuously, especially as you try and invoke them. So you'll have a brief thought, then feel like something is off or missing and then your brain will try and make up new info to fill what was lost. Its like there's a hole in her heart that stuff is continually pouring out of.
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>>151590372
No, the problem is that there's an implication that Gluttony doesn't work immediately, so for example, the memories of Rem are slowly going away like a glass with sand falling to measure time.

So the more Rem is talked about, the more she is forgotten, since the power fills the blanks of the newly stated information.
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>>151590565
I think I'm confused, memories of Rem are being removed from people? Again?

Maybe I really should just read the WN/LN or whatever's most recent
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>>151590372
Trying to fill in the blanks actually makes the effect worse sometimes. It's like the white space in memory already had a sort of emotional muscle memory towards that person so when you try to explain it all it does is replace the space with a new sterile memory. Like explaining the joke. This sidestory kind of explains it or introduces the concept.

https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2016/12/23/a-certain-sister-sister-relationship/
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>>151590604
In practice it just means the effect on people gets has a tendency to get stronger if you try filling in their blanks.
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>>151590604
What? You were asking about arc 4 stuff without knowing how arc 3 was supposed to have ended? You might want to check the pastebin and start there.
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>>151590285
It's completely possible that Ram is simply following Roswaal's instructions, and framing Frederica for his benefit, which if true would make her a massive piece of shit for doing that to the one who trained her to be a maid.

Otherwise she is being lied to by Roswaal and believes him.

You know, i'm starting to think Ram is going to die at some point due to all the covering she does for Roswaal and all the shady shit she most likely helped him with along her life in the mansion.
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>>151590511
Not like that fanart piece, if that's what you're talking about since in this scenario she has a new outfit to go with it.
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>>151590710
I know, but just that a twintail Rem happened.

>>151590709
There's probably a lot of little shit she doesn't know. Provided his Gospel did tell him or hint at what would happen to Rem, Ram would never stand for that.
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>>151590679
I'll check out the pastebin, thanks, literally just finished the anime and I thought that stuff was about the whale/memory loss business.
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>>151590285
Chapter 2 is basically completely different, as I've said above.

The first part is a short "fight" between Elsa and the others (mostly Ram) that I can't be fucked to describe, but basically Freddie rescues Petra with her furry tail, Subaru Shamacs Elsa, and in the ensuing chaos they manage to escape into the mansion courtyard (Subaru and Freddie are injured, possibly lethally since nobody can heal).

After all that chaos Subaru realizes Rem and Beatrice are still in the mansion, and wants to go back for them. But Ram disagrees saying that they should escape with just the four of them because it's too dangerous.

So Subaru gets really fucking pissed off ("How could you leave your sister behind! etc) but Ram doesn't budge, even dropping this line:
>[Ram: For Roswaal-sama sake as well, please leave Rem behind]

And that breaks Subaru a little ("It may have been the greatest sorrow he felt since Rem's existence was lost") as he realizes that Ram truly has forgotten her sister.

But then Freddie and Petra disagree with leaving them behind and so by majority vote they decide they're not leaving them behind.
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>>151590749
Also worth noting, but I think his Gospel only tells of the correct loop, so if Subaru is off-script, Roswaal is also pretty blind and probably starts freestyling shit to whatever end he has planned.
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>>151590511
There needs to be art of the maids in those casual clothes.
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>>151590756
The memory loss for Rem is not related to the whale anon
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>>151590781
>And that breaks Subaru a little ("It may have been the greatest sorrow he felt since Rem's existence was lost") as he realizes that Ram truly has forgotten her sister.
This hurts, especially since Ram is essentially being discarded here, Roswaal knows this loop is fucked.
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>>151590781
>Ram: For Roswaal-sama sake as well, please leave Rem behind

This leaves an extremely bad taste in my mouth
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So are there others aware ( outside of Subaru ) of the fact that there are different timelines/loops? Or that Subaru has rbd?
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>>151590950
A devious and curious witch knows about it
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>>151590950
Echidna yes, Satella obviously, and Roswaal, though Roswaal doesn't know the mechanic on how Subaru is able to redo, simply that he can.
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>>151590905
It's actually even worse
It's (forgive choppy context, just going off this page)
Subaru: I'm telling you! That sacrifice...
Ram: Right. It might be my little sister. --But, if she is my little sister, then this is what she'd say.
Ram: For Roswaal-sama's sake as well, please make me a sacrifice.
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>>151590987
You know, she might actually say that. Both those sisters are too ready to die. Still gross though.
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>>151590950
Yes. Echidna who is a ghost and has a power that can let her look into past loops and Roswaal who figures out Subaru can reset through process of elimination but doesn't know how it works.
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>>151590987
That feels extremely disgusting coming from Ram.

I kinda want Roswaal to die for real in front of her, to see how she'd react.
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>>151590987
Rem's pretty loyal to Roswaal though not as much Ram, so yeah she would say that. It's what all makes this sadder.
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>>151590987
Oh boy. Ram claiming to know what Rem is like despite having no memories of her triggered Subaru in arc 6.
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>>151591030
>>151591065
I don't think she'd sacrifice herself for Roswaal.

She does not value him that much. He is their employer, but in Rem sidestory of her ordinary day, she flinches at his presence and Puck's. So she's clearly not that fond of them, in fact fears them.

Those she wishes to protect are her sister and Subaru. She'd do it if Ram was adamant about it i guess, but if she could she'd pull Ram by force out of there too.
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>>151591030
Do previous loops continue, or does that timeline/world stop the moment Subaru dies? I pray that it's the latter.
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>>151591163
Ambiguous, it's explored in arc 4.
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>>151591129
...is Puck bad, too?
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>>151591129
No, she'd sacrifice herself for her duty. Also, regardless of the particular reasoning Ram gave, Rem would see Subaru safe first and would want him to leave her if it meant he could also die.
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>>151591195
Puck is an extremely powerful spirit that most people would fear, and he has a LOT of shady shit happening in relation to Emilia, so maybe.
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>>151591163
We don't know but he takes a trial that shows past, possible present, and future. It's designed to really fuck with you mentally and the present section fucking destroyed him by showing him dead timelines continued and making the idea of parallel universes a little too real for him. We still don't know.
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>>151591195
He's kind of a dick. Rem's fear of both of them is related to how powerful they both are.
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>>151591065
The problem isn't that Rem might say that, which is debatable. The problem here is that Ram certainly wouldn't. That's a point that even comes up in one of the short stories I glanced over. Ram would give everything for Roswaal, everything except her little sister.

Slightly related. From what I've heard of the LNs, the characters seem to start diverging around near the end of Arc 3. Emilia never asks any dumb questions like "What's the Witch Cult?" and Subaru lets her comfort him while he's with Rem, while the WN specifically said he wanted to be alone with Rem and Emilia understood that. So it feels like something is being overhauled with their character dynamics.
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>>151591195
Not necessarily but he's a nihilistic spirit who only cares about Emilia and spirits don't really think like people. Even Beatrice can be like that.
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>>151591129
She has a martyr bad habit. I fully expect Subaru to have a fight with her about it at least once after she wakes up.
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>>151591257
>The problem here is that Ram certainly wouldn't.
This is probably the biggest thing. Ram wouldn't give up on Rem even if Rem wanted it, as seen in the doggo incident.
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>>151591129
No dude. She very loyal to Roswaal, and even act on own in service of his interests.
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>>151591347
This what she like at slight disrespect shown to him.
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>>151591347
Also Freddie is at least that loyal, willing to give up her life for duty, Rem learned under her and idolized her as an ideal maid, she'd at least follow that.
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>>151591347
>>151591387

She is/she's. You're always forgetting that verb.
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>>151591387
Confounding factors
1. She wants to beat the shit out of Subaru-kun and could very well be coming up with excuses to do it
2. She is thick in her Ram addiction and trying to be like her, which may include clown fetish
3. She later pulls the 'It's for Roswaal-sama!' when beating up cultists when Bete kidnaps tardbaru but really it was all about Subaru, so we know she has precedent for lying about these things.
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>>151589894
>Subaru sits by Rem's bedside is gone/changed

YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB EDITORS

ONE FUCKING JOB!
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>>151590987
>>151590905
Holy shit they somehow made Ram's Stockholm Syndrome worse
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>>151590781
So then Frederica beastifies (her beast transformation is a 2 metre giant cat-like creature, literally a giant pussy) and goes to act as a distraction. (Also I'm not sure if she fully transformed or not, but it seems she can still remain sane after transforming, since she's talking to Subaru and co. after that)

When the rest of them are running through the mansion towards Rem's room, Subaru notices that all the doors in the mansion are open (just like in volume 10, foreshadowing) and then they get attacked by the Guiltyrau which they get away from after some struggling.

Subaru is confused at why this loop is so different to the previous, and Ram splits off from them to go get Patrasche so that they can escape more easily.

While Subaru and Petra are alone there is a small part where Subaru apologizes for always putting Petra in danger, and Petra says its okay and that's she's really grateful to Subaru for the dog incident and that she wants to help him too. Then >>151586511 happens.

After that it's the double suicide attempt and Beako time, and that's it for now.

>>151590987
That does seem a lot more accurate, thanks.

>>151591257
Yeah, in the LN Emilia seems at least aware that the WC targets half-elves. That's why all that exposition about Shaula etc. was removed in the epilogue.

I think the biggest character change is Puck. He actually fights the cult in volume 8 (in the WN he can't because muh contracts) and a lot of his shadier shit has been removed (don't know if retcon or Tappei is just hiding it better).
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>>151583969
There's probably like 10 with working internet per country and one just happened to stumble upon crunchyroll
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>>151591471
She does take her position seriously though, she's just not above using it. Seen here and also with the cultists where she brings up professional reasons first before getting to what she is actually concerned with. Even so she thinks reasonably well of Roswaal and will defend the mansion with her life.
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>>151584591
Probably the people reporting are fujoshitters
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>>151589894
Did they actually remove Subaru's bedside scene? Why?
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>>151591588
Ram seems to have kicked him out
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>>151591588
The editors probably just considered it fluff.
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>>151591620
>>151591602
Yeah, someone is gonna get stabbed tonight
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>>151591471
Look I know don't want to believe it because to Roswaal the twins are most just tools, but that's the truth. There is no reason for her to lie. Even in Arc 3 she still because Roswaal has given her everything from education to shelter. Her loyalty to him and her is strong enough not to have her abandon her current life just to run off with Subaru.
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Anyone feel like dropping the MEGA link that has chapters 1-80?
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>>151591620
But it wasn't fluff. It was heartbreaking.

What the fuck were those editors thinking?
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>>151591666
http://pastebin.com/gWi7LURJ
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>>151591703
I don't know if they'll have more time later, but this scene got changed to show how Ram feels about things and to show how much her connection to Rem has been severed.
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>>151591347
She's very loyal, but that recently translated short story mentioned she actually disapproved of how far Ram took things.
>>151591471
>which may include clown fetish
Nah. She actually developed an inferiority complex about not having anything comparable to her sister's clown fetish, at the same time as disapproving of it. Of course, that inferiority complex vanished the moment she got a car fetish.
>>151591588
I honestly hope she gets something that actually helps replace it. The few moments like that are all she really gets.
>>151591657
>Her loyalty to him and her is strong enough not to have her abandon her current life just to run off with Subaru.
I think that's probably more contextual. She'd be willing to run off with Subaru if given the right reason. Running away with him while he's mentally broken has other reasons for her to refuse the temptation.
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>>151591782
Are they just trying to exaggerate everything like they did in the anime? If so that's stupid.
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>>151591776
Thanks friend.
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>>151591657
She chose not to run away with Subaru because she believed in him. She didn't know what had him so flustered but knew he could do it and that he wasn't the type to give up so easily.

There is absolutely no way Rem would choose the clown over Subaru at this point. Ram, most likely, but not Rem.
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>>151591703
It's just a repeat of what he was doing at the end of Arc 3 and the beginning of Arc 4. Yes, Yes Yes he feels so bad and guilty on the inside blah blah. It was a bit redundant at point and seemed there only to pander to Rem fans.

I'm pretty sure it was Tappei and the editors made the changes anyway.
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>>151591886
What would they be exaggerating? Subaru came back with a particular mission and since Ram came with him this time this is the time to show Ram's initial reactions to her sister instead of waiting to the end of the loop.
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>>151591528
I assume the Beatrice stuff happened like normal, but when Beatrice got killed by Elsa, instead of somehow surviving for no reason, Subaru is killed too.
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>>151591347
>>151591387
How is he not afraid of her the next loop?
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>>151591886
Nah, I think Tappei felt like he introduced Ram's feelings on the matter too late in the main WN stuff since she goes out of focus in the fifth arc.
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>>151591939
He was? He quit that loop and hid in his room and had Betty protect him from both maids. Then Rem died and his theories went out the window.
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>>151591939
He was. Of both maids, until the curse killed her in that loop.
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>>151591968
>>151591976
The fuck are these dotted lines?
The new (You)?
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>>151591939
He is. He wakes up screaming and basically avoids her for the entirety of that loop. It wasn't until his suicide scene that he realizes Ram also took part in the murder/actually killed him, but he had a new drive to keep him going by that point. So he jumped off the cliff.
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>>151591939
Didn't he snap after seeing Ram and Rem again?
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>>151591913
Um dude look Rem still has a life outside Subaru. She not just telling him to convince him not to leave. That life involves someone who taken care of her for 6 years of her and older sister who still needs her support. She had every reason to stay. If she couldn't have talked him out of it, she wasn't just change her mind and leave.
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>>151592017
She instantly follows up with what it would be like if they DID run away. Baby making and all.

If he had a better reason to run away, she likely would have.
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>>151591991
Maybe. I'm using Clover right now so I'm only seeing the old one.
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>>151592017
Her primary reason for not going is that he was obviously overwhelmed and quitting. Her duty to Roswaal and her sister is what stops her from just riding off with him herself while he was crazy/faking crazy.

The big part in Episode 18 is that he presented the offer wrong and for the wrong reasons, and that's why she declines.
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>Emilia thought kissing made babies
>So basically whatever cute lovey-dovey scene she and Subaru share at the end of Arc 4 was enough for her to pursue having Subrau's child, even if only in the heat of the moment
>More fucking importantly, she was game to have Subrau's child right away in that loop where she loses it
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>>151591935
I haven't read that far yet, but you're thinking of the wrong loop. This is from around chapters 34-35 (when Subaru first discovers Beako's gospel). Beatrice doesn't get killed by Elsa yet (at least not on screen)

From what I've heard, instead of Beako teleporting him to the Sanctuary when she kicks him out, he just gets killed by Elsa at the mansion instead. But I don't know anything more yet (or if that is even true)
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>>151592109
Iirc she was told by Annerose, a bratty kid living at the new mansion they moved into by the time this came up. She didn't believe that at the time the kiss happened if that was the case.
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>>151592056
Are you telling Rem is so obsessed with a guy she is only known for a month that she would pick him over her sister and essentially her benefactor and father figure? The AU is and AU for a reason. It's something that would require her to go against her character to happen.

>>151592103
Even if his reasons were better I don't she would have run away with him. Otherwise it would mean she literally stopped caring about everything else but him.
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>>151591915
It's not about feeling bad or guilty, but rather about how he reflects on the feelings he specifically holds for Rem. None of which happens in the earlier Rem coma scenes.
>>151591782
This kind of makes me think this will be used as an explanation for why Subaru isn't going to even bother trying to talk to anyone about Rem throughout the rest of Arc 4.
>>151591931
>to show Ram's initial reactions to her sister instead of waiting to the end of the loop.
Well, it actually shows a much uglier side to it than that, with her willingness to sacrifice her sister. The WN doesn't show any scenario like that.

I do have a very slight guess about things, but that depends on whether or not Subaru actually ends up strangling Roswaal. They might have decided to have Subaru build up more slowly to that level of frustration and anger, rather than trying to punch people right off the bat.
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>>151592115
Yep, what he's talking about is gonna presumably happen in vol.12 where Suabru willingly conforts her.
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>>151592264
>Roswaal
>Fatherfigure

You can't be serious.
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>>151592179
Didn't Annerose actually tell her that when she was training Emilia as a maid when she first arrived?
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>>151592109
It was more like she trying to convince Subaru to not throw the child away since it was not at fault for their recklessness.
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>>151592349
Anon, just because we know that the clown is fucking shit, does not change the fact that he provided them a place to stay, gave them education and a job.

Even if it was pre meditated and he allowed the events to happen in the first place to acquire them, in their eyes he raised them.
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>>151592264
>Rem is so obsessed with a guy

Yes? Also if you read this chapter, she was seriously considering it.

https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2016/11/10/arc-3-rem-taking-care-of-subaru-and-camping-out/

The only thing that was stopping her was "because of Subaru-kun".
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>>151592322
>It's not about feeling bad or guilty, but rather about how he reflects on the feelings he specifically holds for Rem. None of which happens in the earlier Rem coma scenes.

How do you know that wasn't in the other tow earlier coma scenes in the LN? In either we don't need a third coma to know Rem had special place in his heart. Even the next Witches Tea-Party showcases this again.
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>>151592349
If didn't know what you know about Roswaal now why would this be strange? You have look at this from the perspective of the twins. Roswaal is an assclown for sure, but he most certainly took care of them.
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>>151592424
Wasn't it Freddie who raised them though?
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>>151592563
Freddie taught then how to work properly and probably helped too, but in the end, Roswaal was the one providing all of it.
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>>151592465
Considering it is not same as actually doing it. Even she knows it is a fantasy and would be betrayal to those two, that why she says it can't happen.
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>>151592465
I didn't really get that impression. She shook her head of those things and thought back on not betraying her sister and stuff like that. I didn't see it as especially serious. There a some things we want to do but know better than to try.
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>>151591387
Funny thing about this loop which wasn't included in the anime is that in the manga he even almost started suspecting Emilia at this point. He was really staring to lose it due to panic.
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>>151592614
Well yes, the only one who would benefit from such a selfish scheme would be herself. She'd be betraying everyone's trust, even Subaru's. However, that doesn't mean she'd be willing to die for Roswaal's sake alone. She's not like her sister. She doesn't devote her mind, body, or soul to Roswaal.
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If Subaru seemed happy and had a better sounding reason to run away I bet Rem would convince, trick, or push Subaru into turning it into a more slow and sensible moving away plan. Or try to get pregnant before they can leave.
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>>151592829
I'm pretty sure her body at least devoted to Roswaal. That's usually expect of a servant otherwise she is poor one than Subaru because he at least devotes nearly everything to Emilia. Same with Felix towards Crusch.
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Just skimming further through the Spanish translation of the LN, and there's one thing I have to say. Emilia and Subaru's interactions are absolutely nothing like they were in the WN at this stage. It really feels like someone thought everything about their relationship needed to be overhauled.
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>>151593028
Subaru loves Emilia. Felix loves Crusch.

Rem does not love Roswaal, nor is she even particularly close to him.
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>>151593043
Not the same in what way?
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>>151593028
She would jump at the chance to sacrifice herself because she has a worrying fixation on doing so. Ram would never let her do it if she can help it though.
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>>151593164
So far there's a lot less meme-flirting about wanting to lick her neck or whatever, and a lot more actually talking serious in a mature manner.
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>>151593228
>Emilia actually acting mature

Well damn, at least she has a fighting chance now.
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>>151593199
However, she wouldn't do it for just anyone, and Roswaal can protect himself. She's not going to be ready to die to spare Roswaal an inconvenience.
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>>151593043
>It really feels like someone thought everything about their relationship needed to be overhauled.

The editors I assume
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Well keep in mind the arc 6 TLs carry more weight than the arc 4 ones.
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>>151593260
Maybe. Anyhow, I think there might be another change. Did he ever make Frederica listen to him talk about Rem and how much everyone should love her in the WN? Because right now it seems like one of the changes is that Subaru is a lot more eager to tell everyone everything about Rem.
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>>151593283
Right, I don't think she would ever rationalize a sacrifice like Ram is doing here. It's not her impulsive or blaze of glory style of going out. In fact, her mind wouldn't be on the clown at all and probably more along the lines of getting fucking Elsa and the Guilty shitter off her back. Maybe nee-sama and Subaru-kun might come up if she's really going to sacrifice herself since they're nearby.
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So according to CR this show is the most watched on every continent except Asia and we know they have nico where re zero also dominated.

But all this popularity only amounted to a fourth as many sales as YOI? How does this even make sense?
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>>151593451
>Subaru is a lot more eager to tell everyone everything about Rem

Its surprising this is a change I don't like. Considering Subaru's entire relationship revolving around Rem is one that is a lot more private, calm, shy and mature. Him having always talk about Rem, to me, is a bad change.
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>>151593043
>It really feels like someone thought everything about their relationship needed to be overhauled.
It's kind of true, though. There's a reason the vast majority of the fanbase prefers Subaru and Rem's relationship over his and Emilia's.
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>>151593539
It kinda makes sense in here because he wants people to remember her.
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>>151593539
I'm sure a lot of it isn't about their romantic relationship but rather everything about her. It's a natural reaction in context when everyone suddenly forgets her. I'd be terrified in his shoes. I think he's doing it just to confirm a bunch of things to himself and vainly hoping for a natural reaction from them.
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>>151593507
Re:Zero has a LN and a free WN.
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>>151593539
Well, it doesn't go into detail. Emilia asked him to tell her about Rem, so technically this is most of what he's been talking about for several hours now. In the WN, Frederica didn't know why the room she had prepared for Rem was already so clean. In the LN, she knows because Subaru has been,
>making Frederica listen to the talk of the lost truth. About the existence of that young woman named Rem, and how much is that until now that girl should be loved. Just as he told Emilia inside the dragon cart, on the way back to the mansion."
So, I think I understand the Ram scenes better in this context. Subaru is trying to tell everyone everything he knows about Rem, which is kind of a little horrifying if Gluttony still works the same way. He'd literally be overwriting all traces of her memory, without even realizing it.
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>>151579994
why does she look so flat
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>>151593776
Because she kind of is perflat.
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>>151593776
Because she is? It's even mentioned during Arc 6 of the WN, when she's boasting about her looks. Her defense is that because Rem's are big, it all evens out to be perfect.
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>>151593539
If it means Subaru will get less triggered every time someone mentions Rem then I'm all for it.
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>>151593776
Well she kinda is.
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>>151593901
It depends on if it all starts feeling incredibly futile and frustrating to him. If he's been trying to tell everyone about Rem, only for Ram to drop a "she'd want to be sacrificed for Roswaal" kind of assumption. That kind of makes me think that's something that could set off Subaru getting triggered by people assuming things about her. But I won't know until I see it.
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>>151593925
but look at that one pic and look at this, these are still small but not that small. but i guess this is fan drawn. i prefer this small and not table flat small.
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>>151594020
She's not completely flat in the LN art either if you look closely.
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>>151594069
thats 2flat5me but yeah i see it.
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>>151594020
Well she isn't Rem-tier but she's okay. She isn't table flat small.
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>>151594097
Her breasts are larger in the manga art than they are in other official material, where she generally looks pretty flat.
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>>151594104
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Welp. Just looked at the scene with coma Rem and Petra, and it's really not much. He doesn't get too deep into it, nor does he spend longer than a few moments to tell her to wait for him.
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>>151594584
These editors I swear
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>>151594584
Do we know why Subaru has two eyes in that vol 11 loop yet?
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>>151571908
>In response to Beatrice’s firm declaration of her intent, Rem dropped her shoulders, thinking “It can’t be helped”, and----
>[Rem: ----Yes, open wide.]
>[Beatrice: *Gulp*, I suppose. ------Huhh! Damn it!]
>She scoops up the cooking, holds out the spoon, and Beatrice becomes shocked, as she ate it involuntarily. However, her surprise lasted only for a moment. She immediately changes to an entranced expression and says
>[Beatrice: Mmmm…….You put it in my mouth, I suppose. But, it doesn’t taste bad. Not bad.]
>[Rem: That really makes me happy. It seems like Nee-sama and Emilia-sama invented a steamed “Baked Potato” by putting a cut in a yam potato and putting mayonnaise into it. So, I looked for some possibilities, and I worked on a mayonnaise cuisine that’s delicious even if it gets cold.]

-----------

>[Beatrice: Little by little! You said little by little! You really are perverse…..]
>[Rem: Yes, open wide.]
>[Beatrice: Aan, I suppose…...mmm, it’s delicious. Don’t mess with me, I suppose!]

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>[Beatrice: Wa---wait…....in the end, this is just me doing my……]
>[Rem: Don’t just try the hot ones, but the cold ones too please! Ahh, please taste it thoroughly!]
>[Beatrice: *Gulp*, I suppose----!]

We really need more Beako and Rem moments.
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>>151593260
Emilia has always acted mature. It's Suabru that's done the opposite up until Arc 4.
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>>151593539
All he did basically just grief over her. It washardly mature.
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>>151594844
Subaru and Rem need to hurry up and get married and adopt Beako.
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>>151594910
Funny thing is Beako hardly talks about Rem in main storyline let acts like she misses her. Honestly I don't they are as close as some of us are making them out be in end.

Which makes if she could open up that easily to anyone it would have taken Subaru to very end of Arc 4 convince she wasn't alone.
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>>151594990
She was close to her by typical Beatrice standards but that's not saying a lot. She at least wanted to know her better if her comment in arc 5 is anything to go by.
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>>151594990
let alone
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>>151594990
True, but she does miss her considering Rem has been her care-taker and superviser, plus she talks has is on the same affinity with Subaru when it comes to Beatrice, we also do know that Beatrice does care for Subaru even before arc 4 like when she cried as Subaru jumped off a cliff. So the question of Beatrice opening up to Rem isn't a matter of "if" but a matter of "when" as well as is Rem will be dead or not by the end of arc .
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>>151595186
*arc 6
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>>151574745
>>151574985
>>151575058
Are there any other series that do stuff like this? the only other one i know were two sidestories in shieldbro you'd only find if you bought the vol 7 manga. And many illustrations by the manga artist that nobody bothers to scan
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>>151595277
I mean, volume 5.
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>>151595186
I don't think Betty and Rem's conversation with Subaru are really in a similar wavelength at all. Quite few people beyond those two cared for Subaru with Emilia being the first to do so.
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>>151594990
I don't know. Here it states she valued their relationship, however distant it may've been a lot of the time.

https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/rezero-arc-5-the-encounter-with-gluttony/
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>>151595277
I don't think so. Haven't heard of any notable series that has done something like this.
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>>151594910
>[Rem: I’m sure it won’t always be fun times. Not everything will go as well as I imagine it. We might have no boys and they might all be daughters instead. Subaru-kun might feel ashamed about his family.]
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>>151596053
Oh now that's just getting depressing
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I want to catch up here the anime left off but I'm not a reader T.T.

The manga is so slow tho.
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>>151596053
Really anon
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>>151595277
I thought bundling extra stuff was a standard thing for LNs.
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>>151596622
In Re:zero's case it feels like bits and pieces of story you wouldn't find anywhere else. And like other anons said, with limited prints until compiled and released as a book.
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How will Rem react when she finally wakes up and finds out how much Subaru angsted over her?
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https://mega.nz/#!1M132SjC!r5zvq2H9HartEMeUCoGEcv6Iit72deiLN77fhEwAIgc
Another short one
Tomorrow (today) is NEW YEARS EVE. I recommend you have LOW EXPECTATIONS.
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Is there any connection to Puck and Subaru? Or Puck and Echidna?
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>>151597797
Happy new year's eve summary-anon.
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>>151597797
>Mulling over things alone wouldn't result in anything. Echidna could not be relied on anymore.
>Meaning that now, there was only one person who Subaru could share his problems with.

SUBARU NO
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>>151597827
We wouldn't know if there was one between him and Subaru. Echidna turned Puck into a spirit for unknown reasons. They also seem to have had a contract but we don't know what that was for either. Nor do we know what pre-spirit Puck was like.
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>>151597797
Happy new years translation anon. Thanks for the hard work as per usual
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>>151597797
Thanks
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>>151597797
Here's an early Happy New Years, anon.
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>>151594689
Or the simple fact that it's been more than 3 years since Tappei wrote this arc and a lot has changed since that time. You surely don't believe that Tappei did not have a single thing in mind he wanted to change when he got the chance to do in the LN publication.
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>>151597797
>Subaru: “It's Echidna's barrier...”
>Roswaal: “Eeeeeeexactly. SANCTUARY's cemetery is her gravestone, with the barrier being something to prevent the half-bloods she used pre-death in her experiments from escaping. ….Aaaaaaaalthough I'm sure you would have aaaaaaaalready investigated into this much.”

So Santurary is used for human/demi-human experiments. Also, Roswaal's way of talking is getting more punch-able lately.
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>>151597797
Happy new years eve to you too
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So judging by the last lines, did Suburu say something that Roswaal was waiting for or are we just touching his insane side?
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>>151598020
This.

The LN version of Arc 3 was the same, through less extreme. Even the LN version of Arc 2 cut and added a bunch parts that weren't in the WN. All of them still hit same story beats, but with a more refined pacing and structure.

You kinda have understand at end of the day the WN basically Tappei's rough daft and stuff subject to change.
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>>151598129
It probably was the moment he was waiting for. Considering Subaru is still following the gospel at this point.
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I just caught up with the translations/summaries. How much content is there left to come?
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>>151598473
2 arcs worth. Plus the SOL side-stories are fun.
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>>151598473
There are 6 arcs in total and it's ongoing. Right now we're past the halfway point of arc 4 but still have quite a lot to go. We'll have finished arc 4 by March. This is why the LN version of this arc is looking to be so different because I'm sure he didn't intend for it to be this story's Namek.
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>>151597797
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>>151597797
Happy new year and thanks for everything
>Subaru: “I kinda think this's changing track of the conversation, but...”
>Roswaal: “Hm? Yeeeeees?”
>Subaru raises his finger to draw attention. Roswaal tilts his head.
>Focusing firm on Roswaal's heterochromatic eyes, Subaru speaks.
>Subaru: “Is there a reason for you to unconditionally want SANCTUARY freed?”
>Roswaal: “—”
>Roswaal responds to the question with simple silence
>Silence, as his grin slowly intensifies, and his yellow eye's gaze pierces Subaru.
>—Subaru senses on his skin that once again, the situation's mood is changing.
So Subaru just revealed to the clown that he doesn´t know about his relation with Echidna or am I missing something aside from that
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>>151598997
When's Subaru just going to try and kill clown already?

I was really hoping he would turn out to be good but unless some bullshit 360 happens, we're stuck with this one.
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>>151599350
without clown Emilia can´t win the royal selection, which is her wish. Besides, how the fuck do you kill that guy without casualties?
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>>151599433
Just how strong is he? I've never seen him go all out.

I still fully expect Subaru to lose his cool and try something stupid, though.
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>>151599476
Roswaal and Puck fought once, the topography of the landscape changed.
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>>151599350
Kill him how? He's easily the storngest person in that entirely place.
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>>151599691
Assasination, poison, crushing his heart in his sleep, Cholera maybe?
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>>151599762
Even if he did, Ram would more than likely try and kill Subaru in turn.

Maybe.

Probably best to wait for him to fuck up so the stockholm syndrome isn't as strong.
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>>151599476
>magic strong enough to change the weather
>enough melee training to stab people with his arms and blow skulls with a kick
>the dirtiest tactics you can imagine and more
you tell me. I think they said once that he "counts as an entire army"
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>>151599793
Subaru can always ask Otto to hentai logic her again I guess?
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>>151599476
Don't worry, later on Subaru has full intent of killing Roswaal.
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>>151599831
Explain? I think that flew over me.
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Is there a folder with all the chapters?
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>>151599853
Otto is a sex fiend, plus a kiss-ass which Ram enjoys so
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>>151599875
I mean, what'd Otto do to Ram? I don't recall a scene involving them.
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>>151599863

Ctrl + f pastebin
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>>151599897
Nothing much, its just Otto has Roswaal's gospel now and Subaru noted that Ram isn't her usual haughty self around him. Probably because she's weak to compliments. Not in arc 4 though.
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So was her name really changed to Ryuuzu in the LN?
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>>151600368
Actually Otto doesn't. Ram destroyed Roswaal's gospel back in Arc 4. What Otto has in the original gospel aka the Book of Wisdom which Echidna created. That said mortals can't read the that version IIRC.
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>>151600583
That's her Romonzation I think.
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>>151600605
Anon i don't think that's right Otto found someone to fix the burned gospel back up, probably in the hopes of salvaging it. If i remember right, Echidna's book of wisdom is in her possession and it's WHITE. Beatrice and Roswaal's perfect copies are BLACK.
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>>151600634
How would a romanization make Lewes turn into freaking Ryuuzu though?
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>>151600020
You should probably update it due to all the SOL chapters running around
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Emilia isn't even a love interest, is she? All this Rem circlejerk makes it seem like she's the only one important now.
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>>151600929

For that we have this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wOtTltdwZhHK0UKaV1AelPcA-K70SdWPcY3FTBJGnA/edit#
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>>151600954
She's still a love interest, it's just not nearly as compelling as Subaru and Rem considering she's mentally a child and stuff. Even while she's in a coma, Subaru's love for Rem manages to give us things like this.
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>>151601027
Then what's the point of Emilia being a love interest in the first place if they're just going to push Rem so far?
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>>151601052
Because Emilia is the main heroine. Plus Emilia looking exactly like Satella isn't just a mere coincidence.
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>there are more Julius x Subaru doujins than any girl besides Rem and Emilia

FUCKING WHY
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>>151601067
So Emilia is the main love interest?
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>>151601113
Main Heroine /=/ Main Love Interest
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>>151601087
Lately you've been acting really fucking pissy and annoying. I wish you'd stop being so obvious that it's all your doing, it's like you're using a trip so we know it's you.
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>>151601067
>>151601148
That doesn't even make sense. With how much he fawns over Rem, couldn't they just have focused on her relationship with him more so than needing "This witch is the main girl" and so on? Emilia lacks so much focus in comparison, it really makes me wonder what he really thought when sitting down to write this.
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>>151601165

Well excuse me for being somewhat pissed at the situation
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>>151601190
The only lack of focus on Emilia is in a romantic light, considering Rem has been out of commission for the past 3 arcs. You don't need to be the main love interest to be the main girl, you know.
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>>151601251
Except when the main character makes it appear like he does want her to appear in that light.
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>>151601190
Well its to shit on isekai tropes I guess. He just wanted to be a "hero" of an isekai story and treated everyone like some sort of set-piece and become the shining knight that will save his "silver-haired heroine" which ultimately shat in his face.
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>>151601336
Funny how he got what he wanted in a way he never wanted it to be like. Its a monkey's paw type of story it seems.
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>>151601336
So where does this all go with Emilia then? Because it really does love Rem quite a ways more, so all this posturing he did with Emilia and romance seems like it's all kind of wasted.
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>>151601276
Actually he has been showing much hesitation as of arc 6 when it comes to trying to romance Emilia. But we will never know for sure until we see arc 7.
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>>151601434
He still loves her a lot too He kisses her in arc 4 in order to show her he does care for her before she goes back to her trial.

If he'll get anyone at the end at all depends on what will happen.
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>>151601469
He hesitates because he doesn't want to do so while Rem is in a coma. He states that even if Emilia did come to fully understand her love, he'd not be able to enter a serious relationship with her due to his mental state
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>>151601469
>Actually he has been showing much hesitation as of arc 6 when it comes to trying to romance Emilia
In regards to loving Rem or just her in general?
>>151601479
Does that kiss really mean anything at the end of the day? If he still believes her to not be matured in certain ways, he's not exactly going to pursue anything.
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>>151601500
>he'd not be able to enter a serious relationship with her due to his mental state
This makes no sense whatsoever. Why bother with romance in the series then?
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>>151598129
I think its starting to touch on Roswaal's true motivations. I don't know if Roswaal is okay with that or not, I guess we'll see next chapter.
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>>151599897
He means Ram is addicted to Roswaal because of dickings, so Otto could use the same hentai logic to dick her over to their side again. Its a joke.
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>>151601511
A little bit of both actually.

>Emilia: “I think that If you were able to divide it like that, then you and I might’ve never had to fight so much to come to understand each other. So, I reeaally love this type of Subaru.”

>[Subaru: Spoiled, aren’t I? Also, Emilia-tan confused me so much with a profound speech after that.]
>He wished that they wouldn’t say “love” or called him “attractive” so easily. Even if Subaru clearly told his feelings, Emilia’s mental growth wasn’t quite there yet. It seemed like no progress was made up until now for these two in regards to their understanding of the type of love formed in a relationship between a man and woman. Although, even if there was progress, Subaru also wouldn’t be mentally prepared. It would take 2―at least 3 years――no, if possible, even more than that, to be prepared. This was the type of incompetent state he was in.

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>[Emilia: Yeah. I think that’s right. Subaru will devote himself to that girl for a while, and he might stop caring about me as well.]
>[Subaru: No. Under no circumstances would that…..]
>>happen. It shouldn’t happen.
>He swears that his feelings towards Emilia would not waver from now on either.
It’s just that his feelings for Emilia were a different part of the entirety of his feelings. Him having strong feelings towards Rem is a fact, and just like Emilia said, if she were to wake up, there was no doubt that he’d become devoted to her.
>However, she says “it’s fine” to Subaru. Then
>[Emilia: If it makes Subaru turn the other way, that just means that I’ll be the one this time to do my best for you to turn my way. I’m not worried about Subaru suddenly not being there. Therefore, I’ll also have you come my way, no matter how madly in love you become with Rem with how cute she is.]

Its up in the air for interpretation but in my opinion Subaru's romantic love for Emilia is starting to waver.
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>>151601534
Because Love is a central theme of the story. Ultimately, Subaru loves both Emilia and Rem equally, though for different reasons and with different focuses. Because of what happens to Rem most of her scenes needed to be front loaded, and the author isn't trivializing the impact of her loss on the main character. In the WN this means that he mostly took Emilia's interactions and developments way too slow, which seems to be a big part of what he's fixing in the LNs, adding or changing scenes to give Emilia a bit more of the focus she probably should've had to start as someone who is supposed to be a viable main love interest.
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>>151601676
>no, if possible, even more than that,
Except he's more than willing to jump right into it if it was just Rem. He's rather inconsistently written, isn't he?
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>>151586511
>>151591528
>>151590781
>>151590285

Just to clarify, in the WN this loop had them originally being jumped by Elsa in the secret passage, Freddie stays in it to fight her, Elsa kills Petra offscreen and Ram is just in the village while all this happens?
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>>151600954
All the circle jerking is in irrelevant side stories that won't be referenced or important to mainstory.

>>151601027
I disagree. I like their interactions and how plays hard to get. Her mental age pretty much non-issue since isn't relfected in them. If anything the Rem love is pretty overrated since romance with is even that special. Don't get me I like but it's hyper exggrated.
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>>151602229
>All the circle jerking is in irrelevant side stories that won't be referenced or important to mainstory.
I'm not understanding what you mean.
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>>151602212
Yes, basically. Ram and Patrasche get to be fun bonus kills to the new exciting monster
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>>151586995

I guess its inclusion is to make it less of a jobber in the LN having it do something before they show it again?

Was it responsible for the meatorbs Subaru encountered in the village on his 3rd visit to the mansion?
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>>151602229
>I like their interactions and how plays hard to get.
She's not playing hard to get, she's playing dense harem MC. She legitimately does not understand, she's not just being coy.
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>>151601676
>Its up in the air for interpretation but in my opinion Subaru's romantic love for Emilia is starting to waver.

Sounds more like wishful thinking to me. SubaruXRem will end before SubaruxEmilia does base on how story built around their relationship and fact as Subaru stated in Arc 4 he'd never stop loving her nor will he ever leave her side. This isn't just spur thing here that will disappear.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mw6KT-9cyk&feature=youtu.be

Deep deep sigh
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>>151602397
>Subaru stated in Arc 4 he'd never stop loving her nor will he ever leave her side.
Arc 4 is also where Subaru states that he loves Rem as much as he does Emilia, to Emilia herself. And the same arc where Carmilla appears as Rem. No one can say anything for certain at this point, so it's all "wishful thinking."
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>>151602478
>>151602397
He really should've just low-keyed the romance, because this is all such a mess.
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>>151601733
> In the WN this means that he mostly took Emilia's interactions and developments way too slow, which seems to be a big part of what he's fixing in the LNs, adding or changing scenes to give Emilia a bit more of the focus she probably should've had to start as someone who is supposed to be a viable main love interest.

But Tappei isn't changing that aspect. Emilia was always viable love interest because Subaru chose her. One sideled love stories that turn mutual are pretty common in shounen romance There nothing wrong with gradual romance development either because unlike Rem Subaru and Emilia are MCs of the story. They are only character have been active in every arc and that's not gonna change for a long time.
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>>151602585
>because unlike Rem Subaru and Emilia are MCs of the story.
Yeah, you're dumb. People don't have as much fondness for Emilia because she doesn't do a god damn thing. The LN is fixing that by giving her things her character should have been doing. She's a kind enough girl to try and comfort Subaru when he is obviously destroyed inside, if you think its okay that she completely ignores him throughout the vast majority of arc 4 you are an idiot. It doesn't make sense for her to do based on what we know about her, just like it didn't make sense for her to ignore the village in arc 3 so that was added in. Tappei was going glacially slow and realized it didn't make any sense and that readers didn't think Emilia seemed viable compared to Rem because Emilia was just not doing things Emilia should probably have done.
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>>151602681
This also goes beyond the romance angle and into the candidate angle as well. For a nice girl who cares about people she did basically jack and shit until scenes were added in on issues she should at least care about.
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>>151602275
I thought he was referring to sidestories. Rem, barely in the story anymore more of romantic scenes are pretty much with just Emilia. Which is not a surprise after when he confessed to her.

>>151602316
Emilia understands what love is and aware of Subaru's feelings, what she unsure of is her feelings towards. There is nuance to issue. Tappei is clearly playing the long game on their relationship. Hell Garfiel thinks they basically a couple already.
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>>151602681

So in the WN she just stayed in the mansion while the village down the street was burning?
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>>151602681
>The LN is fixing that by giving her things her character should have been doing. She's a kind enough girl to try and comfort Subaru when he is obviously destroyed inside
The WN specifically mentions Subaru not actually wanting her to do that as the reason she isn't there.

Oh, and depending on the quality of the Spanish translation, I think they may have changed the scene in which he told Emilia he loved Rem.
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>>151602782
>Emilia understands what love is and aware of Subaru's feelings, what she unsure of is her feelings towards.
Oh god, that's going to be the end-game isn't it? Forget final bosses, if there's anything final in this, it's doing some G Gundam shit to make Emilia wake up with the power of love in the end when it comes time to deal with Satella/??? in general.
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>>151602811
>The WN specifically mentions Subaru not actually wanting her to do that as the reason she isn't there.
And he can suck a dick. He needs help and he lets his stupid pride get in the way. If its bad enough to be obvious even Emilia should take notice as with the lap pillow scene and do at least something.
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>>151594584
>Welp
Does Subaru love Rem in LN as much as he does in WN?
It seems like Tappei is pushing Emilia romance more so he can shorten the gap between Subaru x Emilia and Subaru x Rem
Hopefully he is still keeping the polygamy promise.
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>>151602478
And in that very same arc he tells Emilia he loves her so much that he could die. So what is your point here? Subaru's strong feelings for her hasn't even after all the things he's go through, this includes loving Rem. It's not gonna happen now. So it is wishful thinking. If want your Rem only ending you had with AU.
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>>151602876
>Does Subaru love Rem in LN as much as he does in WN?
Fuck if I know. What I do know is that the tone feels completely different. It doesn't seem like he's actually told anyone else that he loves Rem.
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>>151602968
Then how does Rem come up for 'Who's Rem?'
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>>151593043
Post the link
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>>151602884
It's not wishful thinking because he literally loves both equally. He might choose one or both, or one will die, or Subaru will die, or any number of things could happen. Going and saying things like

>SubaruXRem will end before SubaruxEmilia

Doesn't make sense because the story is far from over, especially when the current WN arc is all about bringing Rem back, after which is the only point where you would be able to say a dumb statement like that for sure, and the solution is probably not going to be as simple as you think.
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been streaming for a few hours and all the threads I was taking requests for are dying, gimme some more requests
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>>151600683
Japs can't into L
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>>151602782
I doubt it. If anything I expect any and all romantic developments to reach their plateau before the final boss. Seems more fitting for this series.

>>151602840
Well she does in the LN. But yeah, problem with Subaru at least in the WN he's afraid to show his vulnerabilities to Emilia as her wants to be her rock like Rem is for him. It's part of the whole be Rem's Ideal hero" thing.

>>151602876
It doesn't seem that's like changed from the spoilers. It's just that more SubaruxEmilia stuff is being added which natural progression from the end of Arc 3.
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>that part of the second trial where emilia is screaming and crying, calling subaru a liar after he killed himself and wilhelm runs in the room and immediately tries to do everything he can with ferris to him but slowly breaks down into despair as he cannot accept or understand why subaru has just committed suicide

It felt too real.
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>>151602968
Perhaps Tappei just doesn't want Subaru to be seen as a guy obsessed with a girl in coma.
As long as Tappei doesn't cut major Rem scenes in arc 4, I'm fine with it.
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>>151603124
Does it just end there?
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>>151603172

There is more to it but it was the Wilhelm part I thought was the greatest, he is my favourite character.
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>>151603198
Old grizzled veterans are usually my favorites.

Speaking of which, how much more did the LN go into his backstory?
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>>151603098

Crusch-sama giving a christmas present to a blushing Ferri!
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>>151603244
He got a whole book dedicated to him
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>>151603244
It showed the war he participated in, the people he knew and some of which he lost, more of his interactions with Theresia, Female Roswaal, and i think it may have showed stuff post marriage as in, before she went to fight the whale? I'm not sure myself.
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>>151603124
What are all these trails she's going through? For ascension?
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>>151603098

after >>151603254 Crusch-sama hugging crying Ferri
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>>151603098
Subaru, Rem and Beako celebrating the new year like a happy family.
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It's still amazing how much people really hate Emilia.
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EX3 when and what could it be about?
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>>151603080
It was already linked here before.
https://astervoneinzbern.wordpress.com/rezero-kara-hajimeru-isekai-seikatsu/
>>151603146
>As long as Tappei doesn't cut major Rem scenes in arc 4, I'm fine with it.
Hasn't that already happened?
>>151602994
Subaru briefly pauses right before he'd finish his sentence, and Emilia asks "Who's Rem?" during the pause. So he hasn't actually told anyone else he loves Rem.
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>>151603098
Subaru catches Beatrice red handed stealing the mansion's supply of mayonnaise.

While he was on the way to do the same himself.
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>>151603421
I don't think he has cut the fake Rem scene.
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>>151603396
It's more like people are unsatisfied with all she did so far.

Even in arc 4 which supposedly showed more of her development we almost get fucking nothing, she shows up for like 10% of it. I will give it that her past was fairly important in terms of reveals, but otherwise the rest was still weak.

The LN seems to be trying to give her some more screen-time though.
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>>151603123
>problem with Subaru at least in the WN he's afraid to show his vulnerabilities to Emilia as her wants to be her rock like Rem is for him. It's part of the whole be Rem's Ideal hero" thing.
Yes, which is why I give Emilia a lot of slack in this regard, but seeing her ignore things when he's really obvious about it seems really out of character. It lacks agency and its a big part of why people find her sort of bland. Her becoming basically a doll in the AU is the logical extension of this, and that its written as a bad end is something Tappei wants to avoid.
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>>151603530
Well obviously he hasn't cut it, because it hasn't happened yet.

Volume 11 stops at when Satella possesses Emilia.
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>>151584591
Because it was apparently the most watched thing in fall 2016 among countries and individual US states according to the seasonal country charts, but not the most popular show of 2016 overall.
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>>151603124
>ferris to him but slowly breaks down into despair as he cannot accept or understand why subaru has just committed suicide
Ferris understood why he did it. Its why he called him a coward, he could see that this would be like losing Crusch for him.
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>>151603363
That was part of Subaru's trial. Its to free Sanctuary.
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>>151603597

I think he meant Wil-ji breaking down
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>>151603620
Is it all translated or at least partially?
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>>151603649
Read the pastebin
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>>151589894
They really are going for the INTENSE FRIENDSHIP, huh?
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>>151603624
Yeah, probably rereading it, my bad. It was pretty rough, he had a lot of respect for Subaru. And then fucking Satella pops up using his body as a puppet and wrecking shit.
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>>151603530
Has the fake Rem scene come up? From what I've heard, her death scene confession is still unchanged and the polygamy idea was also introduced.

I suppose the way to put it is like this. If Season 2 hit, you wouldn't know he was in love with Rem with the way the Arc 4 scenes were changed. You really would think it was just "DEEP FRIENDSHIP". If the Lust scene comes up, and isn't changed too much, that would probably be the first time anime-onlys would learn about it.
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Fuck, Nobby's Ferri's are always nice looking
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>>151603677
No, they're just putting the sisters in some light. Combined with what happens later, it sets up that maybe Ram has some recollections, but nope, which makes it harsher.
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>>151603677
He still stated that he loves Rem in the LN though.
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>>151603661
Just not sure if it's the 1-3 bit or the split ones.
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>>151603086
I'm not denying he loves both equally, I'm denying that his feelings for Emilia would randomly waver due to Rem now when they never did regardless of when she was awake or not. If he really feels that way after seeing everything about her then nothing should change. It's the one thing that has remain constant even with changes he and Emilia has gone through. Even after confronting Emilia's worst side and .accepting it
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>>151592972
She'd probably just resign her job and try to keep her bonds to Ram intact. As in, they move away to make their family, but close enough for her children to have their Auntie Ram.
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>>151603888
Adding to this a bit. Think of it this way, Rem told him to never give up, because it doesn't suit him. Even if it meant missing her chance to have him all to herself and getting a soccer team, it was more important that he stay true to the man she fell for and knows he can be. For better or worse (Probably worse for Rem), a big part of the was his devotion to Emilia, which explains his 'I love Emilia' line. He can't simply give up on her either without essentially betraying both the girls he cares for.

Perhaps later there will be developments that give him an out where he ends up with just one of them, or both of them, or neither, but we don't know at this point.
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Did Elsa go down in flames yet?
She was hot.
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>>151603396
Only people who hate her thsoe looking for excuse to do and the fact she gets in the way of another ship really.

>>151603531
Okay stop this. If that was the case she wouldn't be 2nd most popular character in the story.

>Even in arc 4 which supposedly showed more of her development we almost get fucking nothing, she shows up for like 10% of it. I will give it that her past was fairly important in terms of reveals, but otherwise the rest was still weak.

Except it isn't? She moving in and out like every character in story unlit after the 3rd Witches Tea party where major it plot threads focused on her. That's far more than 10% and ch 110 is consider best chapters in the Arc.
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>>151603888
Roswaal has even warned her that things will change between Subaru and Rem big time once she awakens. I'm not saying he'll randomly give up on her, but if he does, it won't really be out of nowhere because many things will have happened by that point.

Also stop deleting your posts and correcting yourself 20 minutes later, especially when you still make mistakes anyway.
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>>151603734
>Has the fake Rem scene come up?
Not yet. I hope the author won't make any change to it. Otherwise a lot of people will believe Subaru and Rem's relationship is nothing but a strong friendship.
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>>151604070
>Only people who hate her thsoe looking for excuse to do and the fact she gets in the way of another ship really.
That's more or less what I'm getting at.
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>>151603561
I pretty sure knew the WN, but I saw her just respecting his space. I think either action would be fine, but not leaving like she did in LN is more in character, so I agree there.
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>>151604070
>Except it isn't? She moving in and out like every character in story unlit after the 3rd Witches Tea party
I don't know what you've been reading but aside from her early appearances she's been crying in a tomb in the fetal position. Even waking up next to her every loop Subaru usually just picks her up and puts her somewhere, sometimes without even talking to her. She'll eventually get some screentime and accomplish something, but its dumb that it took the entire arc to do it.
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>>151604070
>If that was the case she wouldn't be 2nd most popular character in the story.

You do realize Japs usually place the mains on the top spots all the time right? Of course Emilia is going to be one of the top ones.

Again i don't hate her, but most of what she did in the WN is fairly weak so far. Not sure about Arc 5, but i do know she tries to be involved much more.
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>>151604166
>Not sure about Arc 5, but i do know she tries to be involved much more.
She does get a lot more in arc 5, but it still took her fucking half of her supposed time as the heroine to get that much.
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>>151604151
She was respecting his space, but that takes an amount of awareness I don't think she actually has. She was characterized as someone who will meddle with people who need help even if its not actually all that good of an idea. Its why she helps Subaru, and Plum, and why it was added that she at least try and help the village. It just seems weird that she'd sit back and do nothing.
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>>151604166
Also she's not the second most popular character. I don't know where she currently ranks but she's behind both Subaru and Rem, so she can't be second unless it was a poll specifically for the heroines. At which point since there's only two viable options really it would be just embarrassing if Emilia wasn't at least second. Its also ignoring what the power gap looks like.

I think Emilia is viable enough, especially with cleaning up her interactions in the LN, but trying to point to polls for that is not the way to prove anything.
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>>151597797
Happy new year, Summary-dono.
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>>151604004
Agreed, with everything here. Subaru's gone through to much for Emilia for at this point with hopes that one day she where she accept his feelings wholeheartedly own her accord.

>>151604081
I don't think you're supposed to take Roswaal's words at face value. Not only has he been wrong before, it's like he's just saying that to force a rift between Emilia and Subaru.
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>>151604509
>it's like he's just saying that to force a rift between Emilia and Subaru.
The opposite actually. He wants Subaru and Emilia to be devoted to each other so he follows through on helping her be king with no other distractions. Words are about his only viable method for this left because he can't simply dispose of Rem.
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>>151604306
>I don't know where she currently ranks but she's behind both Subaru and Rem
From what I know, her place is inconsistent. During WN Arc 4, I think she was behind Otto at one point.

Anyhow, the oddest feeling I get from the changes is that it seems like they changed things which have remained fairly consistent up to Arc 6 of the WN. LN Emilia already seems less passive than Arc 6 Emilia, if that makes any sense.
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>>151604070
>2nd most popular character in the story.
According to who? She most definitely is not.
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>>151604702
Polls.
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>>151604720
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>>151604720
>>151604767

Thank you Nobbybro, I love you
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>>151604781
np
I'm actually gonna sleep now, sorry for not taking more requests
I've been streaming for about 9 hours
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>>151604830

Come to these threads more often!
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>>151604155
That's question you should be asking yourself. She has interacted with Subaru plenty of time through out this arc and has not just been in a tomb. She not just hogging entire screen time especially since she can't move the area she is in.

Moreover as I said the last 30% is more about her than anyone elves and involves some best scenes in this arc.

>>151604166
That's not relavnt to my point. She popluar period.

>Again i don't hate her, but most of what she did in the WN is fairly weak so far. Not sure about Arc 5, but i do know she tries to be involved much more.

I don't even know what this supposed to even mean in this context. How is one strong or weak here? Emilia is about as involved everything as every other character not named Subaru. Just because she no sceentime 24/7 doesn't change because neither is anyone else. Otto, Frederica and Petra for example MIA for large chucks of Arc 4 when Subaru suddenly with them. Tappei doesn't force to be there just because he moves them in a logical order.
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>>151603098
Suburu in a disco dancing competition with the cast. Would prefer Ram as a rival but go with what you feel is natural.
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>>151604985
Otto, Freddie and Petra are both not 'main characters' and have also done more this arc than Emilia so far. If you are having to dig up side characters to compare Emilia to to justify things she's done, you have already lost hard, especially after claiming Rem isn't a main character. Emilia is losing to supporting characters as the 'main heroine'

And that's fucking sad. It shouldn't even be close, but you having to try and compare to the fucking Petra is an embarrassment.
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>>151604306
Except she is and have seen on multiple online polls among series fans. She also has the 2nd most amount of fanart. So let's not kid ourselves here. You're just sounding like a desperate Remfanboy now, come.
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It's actually becoming pretty damn annoying to read through all this Rem circlejerk in the LN anymore. Why the hell didn't he just make her the sole heroine in the story, since it really feels like that's what he wanted in the first place. Emilia really has no place in this, so she should just be shipped off to obscurity as well.
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>>151605117
>She also has the 2nd most amount of fanart
Subaru has more. Any other lies you want to tell?
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>>151605158
>It's actually becoming pretty damn annoying to read through all this Rem circlejerk in the LN anymore.
Huh? There's a Rem circlejerk in the LN? Since when?
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>>151605158
As stated before, main heroine =/= main love interest.
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So when does she start sniffing his boxers?
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>>151604609
>From what I know, her place is inconsistent. During WN Arc 4, I think she was behind Otto at one point

That was early on in the poll were there wasn't even a lot of votes.

>
Anyhow, the oddest feeling I get from the changes is that it seems like they changed things which have remained fairly consistent up to Arc 6 of the WN. LN Emilia already seems less passive than Arc 6 Emilia, if that makes any sense.

I think you mistaking her usual gentle demeanor for passivity. Emilia showed in Arc 4 she can be commanding and confidence during the final events of it after she gets herself together moves on from her past. She type that adheres to speak softy, but carry a big strict lining of conduct.
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>>151605306
When priority of one is placed over another, then does it matter? Emilia is the main heroine, but she sure as hell doesn't feel like it when she barely gets any attention in it.
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>>151605117
>Except she is and have seen on multiple online polls among series fans.
Post them then. I have never seen a poll anywhere where she placed above 4th unless it was specifically only girls, in which case she comes in at a distant second.

As for Art, Subaru has more, and I think Emilia only barely passed fucking Ram recently. And its ignoring that Rem literally runs laps around Emilia on that front, its not even remotely close.
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The damn poll is missing characters like Regulus, don't take it so seriously.
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>>151605419
Nobody cares about captain autism
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>>151605387
>and I think Emilia only barely passed fucking Ram recently
Wait? Emilia passed Ram? Since when?
>>151605345
>think you mistaking her usual gentle demeanor for passivity.
No. I'm talking about passivity, not gentleness. I'm actually just referring to how often Emilia actually talks and starts conversations.
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So when Subaru turns his back on the world to save Satella will anyone stay by his side?
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>>151604985
>Otto, Freddie and Petra are both not 'main characters' and have also done more this arc than Emilia so far

Sure if getting killed repeatedl is doing something. Sorry but that is complete nonsense. Everybody has been busying themselves some role. Subaru has interacted everyone in turn, that is a fact.

> If you are having to dig up side characters to compare Emilia to to justify things she's done, you have already lost hard

That's pretty much BS. You don't seem to understand how writing works. Regardless of what pontless arbitrary standards or metric use an excuse everyone play some role in this Arc at different points. That's why you don't see Frederica for several chapters or Emilia for several chapters and then see them again later.

>especially after claiming Rem isn't a main character. Emilia is losing to supporting characters as the 'main heroine'

Ah so basically you're just one of those bitter fringe Remfanboys who make shit to attack Emilia for ship by trying discredit her. Gotcha.
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>>151583813
Why is my country there when you can't even watch crunchyroll here
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>>151605734
>Ah so basically you're just one of those bitter fringe Remfanboys who make shit to attack Emilia for ship by trying discredit her. Gotcha.
Ah, so you started shit you can't back up, gotcha.

I have literally been giving support to Emilia throughout most of this thread, because what some people say about her is bullshit. But when you go spout different bullshit don't expect me to just ignore it.
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To me story involvement and appearance does not always have to be physically. A character can be barely around and actively do things but actually have a lot of involvement into the narrative.

To me that's what Emilia does so far. While she rarely has active moves that one can acknowledge on a face-value she holds a lot of dynamics and developments behind the surface. Saying she does barely anything might be correct in the literal sense but certainly is not the case in the overall narrative as a character which to be honest is what counts.
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Reminder that Rem was right to feel threatened by Petrasche
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>>151605734
>That's pretty much BS. You don't seem to understand how writing works. Regardless of what pontless arbitrary standards or metric use an excuse everyone play some role in this Arc at different points. That's why you don't see Frederica for several chapters or Emilia for several chapters and then see them again later.
Let me explain this to you. You seem to be confused as to why people don't like Emilia or think she's uninteresting, or don't think her romance has gone anywhere, etc. By your own logic, Petra should be as popular as Emilia. You understand that correct? You are saying Emilia is on the level of Petra and acting like that is an achievement, while also claiming Emilia is a main character and that she's totally super popular you guys. But your evidence for this is that 'at least she does maybe as much as a 12-year old side character'

As a main character. Who is supposed to be a viable main love interest. And your only support for her actions is that she's at done maybe as much as a cute, but bit supporting character. And you are confused as to why people would be hard on Emilia and expect her to do more.
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You can only have one as your attendant

Choose wisely
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Finally a new Ferri. There hasn't been new Ferri or Crusch-sama for a while. Tired of seeing Pixiv Re:Zero always so blue.
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>>151605925

Ferri
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>>151605158
What are you talking about?

>>151605387
Wht the hel polls have been looking at The anime ones?

>As for Art, Subaru has more, and I think Emilia only barely passed fucking Ram recently. And its ignoring that Rem literally runs laps around Emilia on that front, its not even remotely close.

BS,the fact you even brought up Ram tells me enough that have no idea what your talking about. Ram's fanart literally prop up by her sister. She would be lower than Betty if weren't for that.Subaru is just laughable. The only way he could eve beat her is drawn with some else like Ram.
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>>151605894

Was she right to feel threatened by this thing?
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>>151605632
>that pic
why even bother to put such a plain text over that pic
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>>151605961
>Ram's fanart literally prop up by her sister.
No shit sherlock, that's how big the powergap is. Rem is able to support a character that has no business being close to Emilia in art up to Emilia's level. That's why you claiming art stats is doubly stupid.
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>>151605894

Well to sum up her action between Arc 1-3

Saved someone from thugs without ever asking for a compensation. Reunited a child with its parents in a city where she constantly meets discrimination even without Subaru's presence. Fought off a hired assassin who is well known to have her jobs done. Saved Rom from death by healing his wound. Took emergency measures to make Subaru survive long enough to let Beatrice heal him fully. Provided Subaru who has no place to stay or a way to earn to money a home and a job, a perspective basically. Studied for the election which shows that she doesn't take it for granted but puts effort into it. Saved Subaru from collapsing under the traumatization and the pressure of having to keep up a facade. Saved Subaru from being killed by Rem who developed once again distrust for him. Healed his wounds again and watched over him. Helped in arranging a professional healer who heals his damaged gate which would have otherwise killed him and this couldn't be fixed through RBD. Fought off the cultists that raided the villa until her very own death twice. Healed Subaru's wounds again. Went off to warn the villagers from the impending danger and when rejected set up some means of protection. Killed numerous cultists and even killed a finger. Protects the children while they escape. Comforts Subaru who is destroyed because of Rem's fate.

To me that sounds not like "not much" but more like not much of this was dwelled upon in a way that makes it apparent right away.
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>>151605961
Subaru actually is more popular in fanart than Emilia, though. Being paired with another character means nothing because half the time Subaru's tag isn't even used in Subaru/Rem fanart on pixiv.
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>>151605963
Of course
just make a summary in your head of everything that Patrasche has done so far and forget that she is a Ground dragon for a second. you get the story of a tailed, mute girl that piggyrides Subaru around
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>>151606108
>Comforts Subaru who is destroyed because of Rem's fate.
We're reading the WN right now.
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>>151606226
Don't know why we do with drafts if there is a polished version but aight, if you insist so. Omit two things. The rest still stands.
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Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.
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>>151606327
>>151606383

You do this a lot
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>>151605791
>Ah, so you started shit you can't back up, gotcha.

You started it first by acting like a bitter fnaboy at an attempt of character assassination.

>I have literally been giving support to Emilia throughout most of this thread, because what some people say about her is bullshit. But when you go spout different bullshit don't expect me to just ignore it.

That means nothing when start pulling up bullshit yourself. Every character's action is valued in this story. You can't put them on scale. That's why don't see me ging around selectively judging anyone. Otto for example is basically a non-action guys that even appear or do that much beyond talking. That's still important because exist to move the story or character in some direction.


>>151605912
>Let me explain this to you. You seem to be confused as to why people don't like Emilia

I'm well aware the real reason some people don't like Emilia.

> or don't think her romance has gone anywhere, etc

Like I give a shit. Rem's romance has nowhere too. It doesn't stop from circlejerk literally anything that written and act like's the greatest thing ever. Furthermore which paring someone likes more is opinion, I prefer dynamic Suabru and Emilia have no problem with it's grduall build up. It's only one aspect of their relationships that feed of their personal developments like in Arc 4 when Subaru finds a new sense purpose uses that to also strength his bond with Emilia so she can confront her demons. If you like Rem's character better that is fine I don't care.

>Petra should be as popular as Emilia

What the hell are even talking about? Popluar is combination of things not just a singular one.

The rest is dumb for me to bother.
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Bros, I don't care about Rem but I'm sure you're able to appreciate this http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60659263
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>>151606383
Calling them drafts doesn't feel right. If we did, we'd miss the scene in which Subaru gets Otto to look through classified documents to entrap him.
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>>151606512
Would it fucking kill you to actually proofread your shit before posting it? Especially when you already delete your posts to "fix" them in the first place.
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>>151606032
So your just desperate and feigning on what I'm really talking about because Ram gets slammed in solo art.

>>151606116
Yes, does matter. Solo fanart has typical been one of barometers of popularity. This one of Rem's proof of domination among the cast. She doesn't need to be pair anyone because her base most draws just her.
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>>151606512
You're the one acting like a bitter fanboy right now, hombre. Also, if you're going to delete your posts to correct mistakes, actually correct all of them, or better yet, proofread your damn posts.
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>>151606714
Don't move the goalposts. If only solo fanart counted Rem would be the only actual "popular" character. For all your talk about Rem fanboys, you sure are going out of your way to bend shit to defend Emilia.
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This is the Ferri of innocence and positivity. After this has been posted, no negative posts or fights are allowed in the thread.
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>>151606512
So you type up a big long typo-filled post to say literally nothing, bitch, and cry, while accusing others of being bitter fanboys. Neat. We're done here.

I think honestly think thing Emilia needs most in this whole story is someone who can actually talk about her without being a complete fucking idiot. Remfags can have a better discussion of Emilia than Emiliafags can.
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This all started because some guy just can't understand some people simply don't like Emilia at all, because they don't view her "importance" the same way as him.
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>>151581452
Japan has no taste at all. Fine, I'll take another five Rem doujins.
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>>151607044

RULE BREAKER RULE BREAKER RULE BREAKER

If you break a rule the Ferri of innocence and positivity has set, your favorite character will be bullied to death.
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>>151607044
The dude's been here for quite awhile. It's easy to tell who it is when they type like that, delete their posts to correct those typos, and still make plenty of mistakes in the "corrected" post. Makes it hard to take someone seriously when they can't even proofread their posts even though they had two chances to get it right.
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>>151583813
Of course Africa liked the new Berserk.
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>>151606945

I want to lie to Ferri and tell him that I can cure his beloved Crusch-sama in exchange for sexual favors and revealing to me all of her most important secrets

Does that count?
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>>151607161
fuck off
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>>151607140
You'll take your Rem doujins and you'll like them. You should begin to really fear if they start having Rem cosplaying in situations from the other characters.
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>>151607236

That's just horrible, but you're not exactly breaking the rule.

>>151607249

RULE BREAKER
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>>151606108
That's plenty to me for story with large cast.

Here's Rem's and i will use the current time line like you are doing

Arc 2-3

Meets Subaru sense the Witch Scent (we don't actual see this but whatever). Views the lap scene between Subaru and Emilia. Goes to village with Subaru and Ram. Helps Suabru rescue the children after deciding to trust him. Latter leaves to cure Subaru of his curse. Get's rescues by Subaru and Ram and later talks to to Subaru. Goes to capital with Subaru and Emilia. Llets Suabru go to the election meeting. Ends up at the Karsten manison and spends 3 days there with Subaru. From Zero happens. and she relays Roswaals's instructions to Subaru. Participate in the White Whale battle and get a confession out of Suabru afterward.

And that's it. Nothing done that much more. Bare in mind Rem is the person outside Suabru and Emilia to have done a bunch of stuff. SO everyone else is even less than these two.
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Ferri of innocence and positivity will be posted every time the thread heats up.
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Why exactly did Roswaal react like that in the new chapter after Subaru's question anyway?
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>>151607301

So having Ferri suck my dick while I browse Crusch's most secret papers and wonder aloud what his beloved Crusch-sama would think if she saw him now is okay?

Awesome!
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>>151606769
Bitter fanboys go around shitting on other characters, I don't.

>>151607044
What she needs not deal blowhard Rem fans who can't grasp the concept of limelight and need make shitty excuse to attack another character.

This not to say all Remfans are like that, just extreme ones like who do these things in first place. You think after reading this far you know how Tappei works but not. Was Rem every since in Arc 2? Hell no, she had to share her time everyone else like with every character has don so far. So there time gaps when she wasn't there just made small talk with Suabru. Yet want act like different for Emilia or any other character. Thats's my problem with you. Your tying creating narrative isn't there discredit another character and frankly sick of it.
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>>151607366
Exactly. I don't want to spark a discussion who did more than who and whose actions are superior in importance but to me Emilia has plenty of actions they simply aren't put as much in the foreground as for example Rem's. It's not about the "how much" but rather the "how is it portrayed". And well to me these rather subtle actions and developments perfectly align with her character.
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>>151607556
>Innocence and positivity
>Bullies someone to death

Aside from being stupid as fuck, my favorite character is Ferri too, so i guess he'll bully himself to death.
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>>151607550
>>151607236

>raping poor innocent Ferri

That is not okay
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>>151607764

I know Ferri isn't your favorite character and Ferri of innocence and positivity isn't the one doing the bullying.
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>>151607803

>rape

whut.

He's exchanging his body and knowledge for healing Crusch

How is that rape?
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>>151607738
>Bitter fanboys go around shitting on other characters, I don't.
Yeah, you just act like a rage monkey that can't handle that some people, not just Rem fans, just don't like Emilia, and have some kind of scenario in your head where it's all those nasty nasty Rem fans that do nothing but attack your precious Emilia all day. While typing with horrid grammar that you can't even fix when you delete your posts.
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>>151606169
Will she ever pull a firo and transform into a big breasted onee-san?
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>>151607054
No this started because someone started \ shit about another someone else likes. If started making inaccurate about Rem like it was fact Rem fanboys would be all over me.

I could make similar arguments Rem and frame as my opinion no matter how off the mark it might be. I don't do that because I don't care to cause conflict. It's also because I actually respect story Tappei is writing.
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>>151607913
I certainly hope not. That's a bullshit trope.
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>>151607958
Something like that will never happen in re:zero i guess, not without some gruesome consequences shortly afterwards in true re:zero fashion.
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>>151607763
Yeah, I can completely understand if her actions don't appeal to you, but nowhere the same thing as not doing anything. Appeal and such are subjective.

Thank for at least being sensible and realizing objectively Emilia has done as much as anyone. That is all I wanted. Beyond that Tapei can't do anything who like or don't
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>>151607382
No one must know his secret love
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>>151608167
Basically I wish most Remfans were like you in this thread.
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>>151607944
No, it started because you're an overly sensitive retard that can't handle people talking shit about your waifu. And now you're under the guise of superiority because you supposedly "respect the story Tappei is writing." And if you didn't care to cause conflict you would have stopped this meaningless argument a long while ago.
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>>151607738
>You think after reading this far you know how Tappei works but not.
I know better than you, because I think Emilia needed more to do and Tappei obviously agrees. Most of the scenes he has added were in parts where I was thinking while reading the WN 'Why the fuck isn't Emilia doing something?'
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So is the new world flat? Is it square, round? Are there more than four countries? What is the world's name? What's the geography like? What kind of features does the world have?
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>>151608238
WHAT ARE IT'S HOPES AND DREAMS?
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>>151607944
You sound awfully similar to that retard that was spreading actual misinformation about things in arc 4+ before we started getting translations and he was proven wrong. I don't think that guy actually had horrible grammar, though, so I could just be wrong on that.
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>>151608238
It hasn't been overly detailed, but from what I can gather its pretty small, I think just those 4 countries exist and at the very least its some kind of flat plane with the Great Cascade surrounding it. It doesn't have any oceans.
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>>151608339
I want a map. One of the best parts of isekais is the potential worldbuilding has.
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>>151608433
Someone pointed out he might be keeping it purposefully ambiguous so he doesn't have to commit to one geometry.
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>>151608175
>Next chapter is the clown sperging out about his love for Echidna

If it happens it'll probably be fun
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>>151608433
He hasn't worked on the world' geometry much.

If he will or not we'll have to wait and see. For some reason i keep imagining that the geography may be an important point later.

>All the focus on the starts isn't for nothing
>It's not actually another world
>It's a far away planet and whatever is pulling people there did not jump them to another world at all

Or something like that.
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>>151607883
>Yeah, you just act like a rage monkey that can't handle that some people, not just Rem fans, just don't like Emilia,

K' like make this clear. I don't give shit if don't like Emilia or not. If say something bullshit about her it's still pretty much bullshit. If had just said you don't like her out of preference, but you come up all those vague excuses you pull of your ass. Many of which that can apply to others. It's definitely 99% Remfans.

>and have some kind of scenario in your head where it's all those nasty nasty Rem fans that do nothing but attack your precious Emilia all day

So otherwords what is happening right npw? Yeah. Whatever, half of you at least are to up your ass to see reason. This fruitless discussion as always is with people who biased as fuck. Not all Rem fans are bad but her fanbase the worst which has been the first time has been said I'm sure.
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>>151608578
Meant to say on the stars
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>>151608603
Not him but you're still placing blame on a specific group as if they're out to get you, stop that.

As for the "excuses" you have to understand, that just because someone doesn't view it the same way as you, doesn't mean he's wrong in itself too.

People want to see her get involved more in the story, and not just "oh, she's not acting because reasons, even though her personality would dictate otherwise" and so on. I don't think hate fits the description, it's more like Emilia needs more screen-time. A heroine of the story cannot be left in the backseat for so goddamn long, and since Tappei is always working on anythin re:zero related, the changes in the LN express that. He's adding a lot more scenes for her doing stuff instead of just being a doll waiting for her moment to shine.
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>>151608603
>Not all Rem fans are bad but her fanbase the worst
As proven by this 'fruitful discussion' I think that award goes once again to Emiliafags. For all your moral highgrounding you keep glossing over that you claimed at the start that Rem was a side character and that she is going to fall away because she's not actually a Main Character like Subaru and muh Emilia. If you didn't actually want to claim that you're an idiot for championing that cause and continuing to ignore it every time it was pointed out directly to you.
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>>151608603
And there you go again placing blame on "Remfans" like it's only them that think you're a blithering idiot.

Didn't that spfag person pull this same dumb shit? Or am I just mixing two people together and this retard's been around for longer than I thought?
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>>151608793
I don't think i ever saw him talk like this before actually.
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>>151608719

Why is there cum between Regulus' fingers?
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>>151608823
I just remember him or someone else saying very similar things to a lot of what he's said in this thread back while the anime was airing. I don't know, I haven't really paid too much attention to the goings on in the threads since around the time the anime was ending, and all I know about what happened with spfag was that the shit he was saying got proven wrong and he left or something.
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>>151608947
God dammit, now I cant unsee it
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>>151608947
Anon that doesn't even look liquid, the artist just probably fucked up and forgot to draw the spacing between the fingers on that spot.
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>>151608235
>I know better than you, because I think Emilia needed more to do and Tappei obviously agrees.

This right here, is why I don't like Rem fans. If this was any other character you wouldn't make this statement. Now I can turn around and disingenuous and say in response so this what Rem fans tell themselves to assuage their potato waifu being sidelined.

I how you no pretend to know Tappei thinks? He make more scene for any character he chose for any reason.

>Most of the scenes he has added were in parts where I was thinking while reading the WN 'Why the fuck isn't Emilia doing something?'

Except fucking doing something. What other character counts doing something she wasn't Because i don't remember her one part of story standing there like a statue more anyone else. So when she literally not doing something i.e. talking with somebody, doing something like taking the trails etc) that requires the though and movement?
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>>151609000

Cum on your fingers sometime and spread your fingers. It looks exactly like that.
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