Arc 4 Ch.81 https://mega.nz/#!JMM3BDhK!ItILLQlUh1T7J3-c2mPUsl2BEKlNP6EgJtz6tXC7UeY
We got another translation by Lemon too
"Beatrice and Rem's Service is Tough"
He was thinking about it. Possibly once he's done with all Rem stuff he was willing to do.
You know it's probably just 13 pages, and fairly inconsequential, but cute happenings.
I figure it may not be that worth it.
If you have paypal or something I'll give you the money to buy all the Rem short stories if you're willing to transcribe them. Idk if you have a scanner or not.
I might do it now, but I really don't know yet. I'll spend this day thinking about what to do next
>If you have paypal
>I'll give you the money to buy all the Rem short stories if you're willing to transcribe them. Idk if you have a scanner or not.
Yes, yes, and yes. Not sure how many I can actually track down, since some of these are so rare that they go for hundreds of dollars on auctions, but I think I can get this one easily enough.
>mailing it to Lemon
I have a scanner.
I'll look through arc 3 again and see if there's anything that might be worth doing
Alright if you ever decide to buy it just pm me your paypal. I'll only be able to give up to $100 for a single story though since I'm just a mere college student and am not rich or anything
There are short stories written for store specials. You can hardly find them anywhere, and I just found a post in Chinese with some guy basically saying he spent thousands of dollars on these.
>he spent thousands of dollars on these
>he spent thousands of dollars on these
>he spent thousands of dollars on these
>he spent thousands of dollars on these
>he spent thousands of dollars on these
Holy fucking shit.
They're limited print sidestories. It just might be scanned somewhere already though if we're lucky. Really though, if we're very patient we could just wait for a new tanpenshuu volume that compiles a bunch of these.
To be fair, Subaru has a lot of weird shit going on when it comes to witch powers
>Sees the unseen
>Does not go insane from whale mist
>Can acquire witch powers from dead bishops
>Smells like Satella
>Corrupt blood makes him stronger instead of killing him
Did i miss anything?
>"Crusch-sama must feel great pain. Not understanding anything, remembering nothing... So, do not you think she does not want to fight? True? It is not like this?
>As if begging him, Ferris's facial expression as he turned to see Crusch was collapsing. He had completely lost all the attitude he had until a few moments ago, even now his face in profile denoted that he was about to cry although he tried to hide that weakness.
>Despite that, he longed with all his heart that Crusch was not hurt.
>"Ferris, thank you very much for caring about me.
>Before Ferris who made his true feelings known, Crusch smiled gently.
>Crusch placed his hands over Ferris's trembling hands, then looked steadily at Subaru and the others.
>In the sobbing state in which Ferris was found, it was impossible for him to continue participating in the conversation.
>Crusch who was hugging Ferris turned to where they were and apologized.
>Regularly talks to the souls of Witches and Archbishops that have died
>Has friendly relations with said Witches and Archbishops
This is probably the biggest one.
Anyhow, I said this in a previous thread, but I can confirm it now. Al knew Ram's name without being told.
The title of that short story is kind of funny, even if I'm not sure how to put it succinctly. Something like "Ram's Refusal to be Picked Up", in the sense of people hitting on her.
Yep. Google translate renders the gist of these translations legible, so it's kind of funny to see. Unfortunately, a bunch of random stuff keeps coming out as "World of Warcraft". Anyhow, it seems Rem really likes making pinkie promises with Subaru.
>It seems Rem really likes making pinkie promises with Subaru.
The cute thing is he hasn't broken a single one as of yet. Or has been fulfilled.
>Rem and the others are cured but Subaru went dark lord in exchange
>Emilia and Rem are the substitute MCs
I want this
Can Rem be cured of her acquired mayo dislike?
I've seen that before. You can find the forum post for it here, with a few other stories on earlier pages.
I'm going to look over the ones that have already been done, and go see if the translator got any more done than I know about.
He kind of failed the most important promise, but not intentionally and he's definitely trying to set that one right. But yeah, the story makes it out to be a habitual thing. It also mentions that Rem realizes she's been moving up closer to him when they were sitting on the sofa together.
I think I fully understand the focus of this story now, and why it's called "The Best Day of Rem's Life". She spends a lot of it worried that Subaru might be secretly scared of her, before he puts her worries to rest. She was actually trying to bring up the subject of how she almost killed him a few times, and thought she was actually going to end up killing him before the dog incident. Though he interrupts her before she actually says she was going to kill him, and she's pretty terrified she may have broken the "illusion of intimacy".
>said he would die if he didn't swim in the stuff
>he almost drowns
Really makes Rem think.
Well, they can do it for each other, can't they? But yes, she was really happy that Subaru really did trust her and feel safe around her.
Also, some forums posts about how Rem scenes taste like a mix of shit and sugar after what happens later in the story. I think they're referring to the coma.
Found all of the pages of one of the stories posted somewhere.
>[Emilia: Since we’re here already, I thought I’d like to see what you have to wear beside maid outfits.]
>[Rem: Subaru-kun was one thing, but for Emilia-sama to be suggesting this as well…]
>[Emilia: Oh, Subaru was telling you the same thing too? I think I understand a little better what he was thinking, now. It’s so much fun seeing all your cute clothes, after all.]
>[Ram: Though in Barusu’s case, his ulterior motive was obvious, so the idea was dismissed.]
The clothes thing comes up a lot more often than I expected. This needs to be illustrated.
This scene is quite sad in hindsight.
>[Rem: Subaru-kun would you……]
>Then, Rem’s suddenly lowers her voice in this quiet room with only the two of them left in it.
>When he looked in that direction in silence, his eyes met hers, as she looked up at him clearly.
>[Rem: If I’m gone, will you remember me for about as long as that?]
>[Subaru: ……That doesn’t sound like good luck, so I don’t want to answer.]
>Subaru says those words with a discouraged voice and pokes Rem’s forehead with his finger.
>When she touched that finger that was on her forehead with her hand, she had a smile on her face as if indicating she received the answer she was looking for.
The devious part being that he wrote this before the coma.
Everyone who has dealt with Echidna has said that at least once I bet.
Also just discovered there's no reason to buy Garf and Ram, or Frederica's story. I just found raws. Some guy on those forums has been uploading these lately, as in the past few days.
Yep. Got all of the pages of those two. More might even be posted later!
Are we talking romantically? It's 2 and maybe 3 if you count Satella, and if you're in the Satella=Emilia crowd then it's just 2 again. Petra has a crush but it's a little kid crush that will fade with time. Where's the fifth supposed to be from?
He pooped on the Subaru=Flugel theory by having them explicitly look nothing alike to the point that it's brought up in story so he might not be going for that low hanging fruit.
Physical appearance feels like the dumbest point to completely disregard the theory on when there's still potential for bullshit like soul transfusions or inherited covenants.
Not really? She's too into clown cock. She'll help out, and she's not a bad person, but she's going to be sarcastic about it the whole time and then go right back to the clown cannon to recharge.
She's probably an okay wingman for helping with Rem, but Subaru doesn't really need help there to begin with.
Body possession seems to be experimental magitech related to Echidna and Roswaal. I think the only reliable Subaru approved way would be the Lust authority, but would it manifest as a transformation power? Would the Subaru who's come to value himself more change himself to such an extent that this was the likeness Shaula remembers him by?
She's a sister through and through. Kind of annoying or rude most of the time but deep down she still cares for you.
He can't just be a reincarnation, since Satella says she has not loved anyone else other than him, and talks about him saving her, so it's pretty clear there's a past there.
She wouldn't refer to a reincarnation like that.
>Literally every single thing reporting on it is sucking Yuri on ice's dick
Was Yuri on ice really that much of a hit, or are news sites just trying hard to pander to it because of the gay stuff going on?
Every thread until Rem wakes up.
Good news everyone, Elsa doesn't kill Petra in the LN!
She gets crushed to death by the Guiltyrau instead Petra and Subaru are in the courtyard (or somewhere idk) heading towards Rem's room to evacuate her when there is a sudden impact from above and Subaru's vision "is filled with red". When Subaru regains consciousness he's severely injured, and being carried around by a badly injured Patrasche who's running from the Guiltyrau. Before it can kill Patrasche, she throws Subaru onto the 2nd floor near Rem's room. The last thing Subaru remembers is holding onto Petra's arm. When he looks down, he's still holding onto it, except it's been severed from the elbow
(As you can probably tell, pretty much everything after Subaru returned to the mansion changed. A lot)
Its still nice but, why didn't they just include the World Ending chapter? He was pretty good in that one. Is it because of censorship?
You know all these changes are making me a bit worried. They might really be making arc 4 shorter than arc 3 and remaking it from the ground up.
Why? Arc 4's major plotpoints weren't bad or anything, why are they doing this?
Is this because they want to make a season 2 and they're making Tappei cut corners in order to fit arc 4 and 5? Could be a possibility, but that could ruin everything.
The main plot points don't seem to be touched. How the events transpired don't seem to be affecting any major plot points.
Plus, in this case it makes sense for Subaru to job, since a freaking Manticore assaulted them by surprise when Subaru was prioritizing the safety of survivors.
The major plot points are still there but it wasn't an uncommon criticism that the arc was padded with roadblocks that didn't really need to be there or were drawn out too long. Tappei also feels like he didn't set stuff up soon enough it seems. For example, Meili just kind of shows up in the WN. Now readers can anticipate her on account of her minion fucking an entire loop. The same goes for the moment Subaru suspects Frederica of giving Elsa information, the clown and Ram have been planting the idea in his head since the arc started in the LN (I don't really think it was too random in the wn though. He had to suspect someone and he didn't realize just how far down the rabbit hole Roswaal would go.)
So we aren't going to see Subaru go man mode trying to save Petra from Elsa? We won't see Subaru dragging her dead body around? Nor will e see the double suicide and Subaru making Beatrice cry?
I'm sure they are making the right decision.
I don't think it will be. This is a failed loop, so none of this is really affecting anything except making things more "exciting" (I guess that's subjective, but I personally liked the mansion fight a little more)
He still uses Shamac against Elsa (although it's a bit different, since Frederica and Ram are also with him. Frederica is the one who ends up saving Petra (pic related))
(Also I don't know if I'm the only who was confused by this, but the thing Petra holding onto isn't Frederica's hair. It's her tail. A really really hairy tail)
Subaru isn't dragging her dead body around, but he is holding onto her severed arm.
Attempted double suicide and the Beatrice parts are still the same (I haven't finished the Beatrice parts yet but so far they're the same)
I'm sure the Beatrice part will definitely happen at some point in some way. It's pretty much needed to lead up to her suicidal speech and to effect the outcome of Donadona's contract.
She thinks her nee-sama is the shit and probably uses the same soaps and shampoo as her.
>Frederica is the one that saves Petra
>Subaru isn't unknowingly carrying her body thinking she's alive
>Its an arm instead
This is somewhat upsetting
Probably. Or a citrus fruit to match her personality. So Remu is a blueberry that smells like a strawberry.
Yeah, but it doesn't have the same punch you know what I mean? What made World Ending so special was due to how it made the reader feel Subaru was really alone and is bearing a great burden. It feels somewhat light-hearted with all the people helping him to fight compared to that. You know what I mean?
It makes more sense since he was most likely going there early in order to stop it, and getting help from Ram makes sense too.
Plus, it not's like he wasn't alone after shit started to go down again >>151587667 he still tried for double suicide.
I can see what you mean but at the same time this is better structured as far as the overall pacing and plot threads go since a lot got crammed into the end with barely any introduction. It's a trade off in that sense.
The double suicide things isn't really my concern but rather the events leading up to it due to the tone of desperation of events unfolding that lead up to the suicide. Since it feels like Subaru was somehow made more pathetic with Patarche doing all the running and everyone getting injured compared to WN Subaru who had 3 fingers cut off, throwing knives jutting out of his body, coughing up blood and a flayed arm that he wanted to cut off.
Anon, those may still be there. Plus it's even more desperate since the freaking Chimera is attacking, can't really fault Subaru on that one.
If i remember right Elsa kills him that loop too according to the anon reading through.
You have to realize that the earlier volume combined bits of the original world ending loop with the surprise Elsa attack to move things along but that means he would have to approach this loop differently from the WN version by going early like the kiss of death loop. Otherwise he'd be really clueless. More than people meme he is. It's a shame but it can't necessarily go the same way.
Here's a rare non mind broken short haired Emilia.
True, but that's the price of shortening arcs I guess, hopefully they do some service with everything else.
Also the fact that he had to do almost everything by himself when it came from running away from Elsa and combating her rather to Rem's room to keep her alive with Freddie being jobbed adding tension to the situation. As well as Subaru doing all the running rather than getting carried by Patarche which makes him more I guess interesting. Plus I'd be nice to have kept this little gem.
>Yet worrying about Frederica, Subaru must follow her words and ensure Petra remains protected.
>He taxes his trembling legs to stand. His feet lead him to the fallen Petra's side. And, he goes to pick her up—
>—When there, buried from her head's rear to her nape, he spots the crooked knife.
>Blood trickles from her mouth, brain lies spilt from her fractured skull. Fresh bloodshed seeps heavy into her soft chestnut hair. Her gentle, warm hands no longer move.
>Subaru lifts his right arm. He sees a pathetic bundle of flesh missing three fingers and half a forearm. The kukri he had attempted to halt had torn straight through to strike Petra. Now presented with this, Subaru thus had protected not a single thing.
>Bloody does his ruined throat shriek.
Continuity, pacing and flow-wise it makes sense but it sort of lost its little charm. When you make it look like Subaru isn't the one soloing a number of things by himself and is instead getting help from outside sources.
While going solo on things sounds nice and badass, it's also stupid, since he is extremely fucking aware that he died to Elsa last time, and he knows just how strong she is. Relying on others is hardly a shameful thing, it's a staple of Re:Zero.
You guys need to stop freaking out about nothing. They are cutting or reducing parts that were most just fluff. I mean enjoy those bits myself, but weren't super necessary. Especially compared to improving flow and pacing.
Tappei did the same for Arc 3 was longer in WN than in LN. Arc 4 just had more of it.
Why you even be mad about this? He was working together Frederica and Ram to free her since they were there.
It don't stop everybody from dying so he despair is still there that leads up to it. Besides Frederica was also holding off Elsa like she did WN, for Subaru to escape with Petra. It's just that now Ram and Patarche were helping too.
>It don't stop everybody from dying so he despair is still there that leads up to it.
Well, I didn't read it, so I can't judge it myself. However, it does strike me as something that changes the tone of the loop. Not all flavors of despair are the same.
While I'm here I might as well just post the rest of the LN changes so far. (I'll put them in a pastebin or something later when I'm less lazy)
Starting from when Subaru and Ram arrive back at the mansion. Subaru hugs Petra (like in the WN) and Ram is like "You're disgusting". Then Petra introduces herself to Ram since it's their first time meeting and it's cute.
And then a change that will probably piss off a lot of you, that scene that everyone posts here all the time where Subaru sits by Rem's bedside is gone/changed. It starts off the same, but since Ram is also with him meeting Rem for the first time, she asks him (pretty nicely) to leave the two of them alone for a while.
Since he can't really refuse that, he leaves, and runs into Frederica.
(It seems like 90% of the changes can be attributed to Ram being at the mansion this time, which was the clown's idea. So if you don't like any of the changes, just blame the clown)
>And then a change that will probably piss off a lot of you, that scene that everyone posts here all the time where Subaru sits by Rem's bedside is gone/changed.
Ram being at the mansion really was my main concern. It didn't really make much sense to me as something that would actually add to the story, except to have Subaru make a wasted effort to talk to her about Rem which inevitably gets erased and therefore leads nowhere.
I don't think that's really the same. Also, is there any translation for that one anywhere?
Then, Subaru and Freddie don't talk about the demihuman war or her and Garf's backstory or being 1/4 or any of that. Instead Subaru just straight up asks her what her reason for setting up the "trap" was (the teleporting crystal thing from volume 10).
Of course, Freddie has no idea what he's talking about, and eventually Subaru realizes that's she's probably telling the truth. So he then asks why she lied about the crystal being necessary to enter the Sanctuary (Roswaal said it wasn't necessary) and she clams up because "muh pledges".
So then Ram (who had rejoined them at that point) pulls out her staff and is like (paraphrased) "Let's restrain her and drag her back to the Sanctuary so she can talk" and Subaru is like "Holy shit bitch calm the fuck down" and Frederica is like "Well if you want me to come there I guess I can??"
And just as they're about to leave (with Subaru thinking that he'll finally be able to figure out who's behind everything), Elsa shows up with hostage Petra. That's the end of chapter 1.
(I'm confused about how much Ram knows about the "framing Frederica" thing. It seems she believes her when she says she doesn't know anything but also suspects she's hiding something? Maybe I've misunderstood something here)
>always accuses Barusu of deviancy
>the clown she loves enslaved her at a young age and took advantage of her
What did Ram mean by this?
>have Subaru make a wasted effort to talk to her about Rem which inevitably gets erased and therefore leads nowhere.
Sort of. It lets him get her thoughts about Rem out a little bit without losing memories as gets covered later, telling her all about Rem is apparently not a great idea.
The changes sound fine to me. Especially since we get more Ram in this arc who had been slidelined for too long since Arc 2 anyway. I don't even think Ram and Petra even interacted n the WN. Also ditto for more Meili as >>151587355 explained. It seem like LN version just better setups up for a lot of stuff than WN did.
In contrast to Ram’s outfit that had been made with an eye towards a soft splendor, Rem’s clothes were abundant with frills, producing a sweet ambiance not unlike something that would seem fitting for Beatrice, another of the mansion’s residents. With left and right ponytails adding to the effect, the combination of Rem’s gentle eyes and her attire shone brightly.
Wait, that twintail Rem thing happened?
The memories are being eaten continuously, especially as you try and invoke them. So you'll have a brief thought, then feel like something is off or missing and then your brain will try and make up new info to fill what was lost. Its like there's a hole in her heart that stuff is continually pouring out of.
No, the problem is that there's an implication that Gluttony doesn't work immediately, so for example, the memories of Rem are slowly going away like a glass with sand falling to measure time.
So the more Rem is talked about, the more she is forgotten, since the power fills the blanks of the newly stated information.
Trying to fill in the blanks actually makes the effect worse sometimes. It's like the white space in memory already had a sort of emotional muscle memory towards that person so when you try to explain it all it does is replace the space with a new sterile memory. Like explaining the joke. This sidestory kind of explains it or introduces the concept.
It's completely possible that Ram is simply following Roswaal's instructions, and framing Frederica for his benefit, which if true would make her a massive piece of shit for doing that to the one who trained her to be a maid.
Otherwise she is being lied to by Roswaal and believes him.
You know, i'm starting to think Ram is going to die at some point due to all the covering she does for Roswaal and all the shady shit she most likely helped him with along her life in the mansion.
I know, but just that a twintail Rem happened.
There's probably a lot of little shit she doesn't know. Provided his Gospel did tell him or hint at what would happen to Rem, Ram would never stand for that.
Chapter 2 is basically completely different, as I've said above.
The first part is a short "fight" between Elsa and the others (mostly Ram) that I can't be fucked to describe, but basically Freddie rescues Petra with her furry tail, Subaru Shamacs Elsa, and in the ensuing chaos they manage to escape into the mansion courtyard (Subaru and Freddie are injured, possibly lethally since nobody can heal).
After all that chaos Subaru realizes Rem and Beatrice are still in the mansion, and wants to go back for them. But Ram disagrees saying that they should escape with just the four of them because it's too dangerous.
So Subaru gets really fucking pissed off ("How could you leave your sister behind! etc) but Ram doesn't budge, even dropping this line:
>[Ram: For Roswaal-sama sake as well, please leave Rem behind]
And that breaks Subaru a little ("It may have been the greatest sorrow he felt since Rem's existence was lost") as he realizes that Ram truly has forgotten her sister.
But then Freddie and Petra disagree with leaving them behind and so by majority vote they decide they're not leaving them behind.
Also worth noting, but I think his Gospel only tells of the correct loop, so if Subaru is off-script, Roswaal is also pretty blind and probably starts freestyling shit to whatever end he has planned.
The memory loss for Rem is not related to the whale anon
>And that breaks Subaru a little ("It may have been the greatest sorrow he felt since Rem's existence was lost") as he realizes that Ram truly has forgotten her sister.
This hurts, especially since Ram is essentially being discarded here, Roswaal knows this loop is fucked.
>Ram: For Roswaal-sama sake as well, please leave Rem behind
This leaves an extremely bad taste in my mouth
A devious and curious witch knows about it
It's actually even worse
It's (forgive choppy context, just going off this page)
Subaru: I'm telling you! That sacrifice...
Ram: Right. It might be my little sister. --But, if she is my little sister, then this is what she'd say.
Ram: For Roswaal-sama's sake as well, please make me a sacrifice.
Yes. Echidna who is a ghost and has a power that can let her look into past loops and Roswaal who figures out Subaru can reset through process of elimination but doesn't know how it works.
That feels extremely disgusting coming from Ram.
I kinda want Roswaal to die for real in front of her, to see how she'd react.
I don't think she'd sacrifice herself for Roswaal.
She does not value him that much. He is their employer, but in Rem sidestory of her ordinary day, she flinches at his presence and Puck's. So she's clearly not that fond of them, in fact fears them.
Those she wishes to protect are her sister and Subaru. She'd do it if Ram was adamant about it i guess, but if she could she'd pull Ram by force out of there too.
No, she'd sacrifice herself for her duty. Also, regardless of the particular reasoning Ram gave, Rem would see Subaru safe first and would want him to leave her if it meant he could also die.
We don't know but he takes a trial that shows past, possible present, and future. It's designed to really fuck with you mentally and the present section fucking destroyed him by showing him dead timelines continued and making the idea of parallel universes a little too real for him. We still don't know.
The problem isn't that Rem might say that, which is debatable. The problem here is that Ram certainly wouldn't. That's a point that even comes up in one of the short stories I glanced over. Ram would give everything for Roswaal, everything except her little sister.
Slightly related. From what I've heard of the LNs, the characters seem to start diverging around near the end of Arc 3. Emilia never asks any dumb questions like "What's the Witch Cult?" and Subaru lets her comfort him while he's with Rem, while the WN specifically said he wanted to be alone with Rem and Emilia understood that. So it feels like something is being overhauled with their character dynamics.
No dude. She very loyal to Roswaal, and even act on own in service of his interests.
This what she like at slight disrespect shown to him.
1. She wants to beat the shit out of Subaru-kun and could very well be coming up with excuses to do it
2. She is thick in her Ram addiction and trying to be like her, which may include clown fetish
3. She later pulls the 'It's for Roswaal-sama!' when beating up cultists when Bete kidnaps tardbaru but really it was all about Subaru, so we know she has precedent for lying about these things.
>Subaru sits by Rem's bedside is gone/changed
YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB EDITORS
ONE FUCKING JOB!
Holy shit they somehow made Ram's Stockholm Syndrome worse
So then Frederica beastifies (her beast transformation is a 2 metre giant cat-like creature, literally a giant pussy) and goes to act as a distraction. (Also I'm not sure if she fully transformed or not, but it seems she can still remain sane after transforming, since she's talking to Subaru and co. after that)
When the rest of them are running through the mansion towards Rem's room, Subaru notices that all the doors in the mansion are open (just like in volume 10, foreshadowing) and then they get attacked by the Guiltyrau which they get away from after some struggling.
Subaru is confused at why this loop is so different to the previous, and Ram splits off from them to go get Patrasche so that they can escape more easily.
While Subaru and Petra are alone there is a small part where Subaru apologizes for always putting Petra in danger, and Petra says its okay and that's she's really grateful to Subaru for the dog incident and that she wants to help him too. Then >>151586511 happens.
After that it's the double suicide attempt and Beako time, and that's it for now.
That does seem a lot more accurate, thanks.
Yeah, in the LN Emilia seems at least aware that the WC targets half-elves. That's why all that exposition about Shaula etc. was removed in the epilogue.
I think the biggest character change is Puck. He actually fights the cult in volume 8 (in the WN he can't because muh contracts) and a lot of his shadier shit has been removed (don't know if retcon or Tappei is just hiding it better).
She does take her position seriously though, she's just not above using it. Seen here and also with the cultists where she brings up professional reasons first before getting to what she is actually concerned with. Even so she thinks reasonably well of Roswaal and will defend the mansion with her life.
Look I know don't want to believe it because to Roswaal the twins are most just tools, but that's the truth. There is no reason for her to lie. Even in Arc 3 she still because Roswaal has given her everything from education to shelter. Her loyalty to him and her is strong enough not to have her abandon her current life just to run off with Subaru.
But it wasn't fluff. It was heartbreaking.
What the fuck were those editors thinking?
She's very loyal, but that recently translated short story mentioned she actually disapproved of how far Ram took things.
>which may include clown fetish
Nah. She actually developed an inferiority complex about not having anything comparable to her sister's clown fetish, at the same time as disapproving of it. Of course, that inferiority complex vanished the moment she got a car fetish.
I honestly hope she gets something that actually helps replace it. The few moments like that are all she really gets.
>Her loyalty to him and her is strong enough not to have her abandon her current life just to run off with Subaru.
I think that's probably more contextual. She'd be willing to run off with Subaru if given the right reason. Running away with him while he's mentally broken has other reasons for her to refuse the temptation.
She chose not to run away with Subaru because she believed in him. She didn't know what had him so flustered but knew he could do it and that he wasn't the type to give up so easily.
There is absolutely no way Rem would choose the clown over Subaru at this point. Ram, most likely, but not Rem.
It's just a repeat of what he was doing at the end of Arc 3 and the beginning of Arc 4. Yes, Yes Yes he feels so bad and guilty on the inside blah blah. It was a bit redundant at point and seemed there only to pander to Rem fans.
I'm pretty sure it was Tappei and the editors made the changes anyway.
What would they be exaggerating? Subaru came back with a particular mission and since Ram came with him this time this is the time to show Ram's initial reactions to her sister instead of waiting to the end of the loop.
He is. He wakes up screaming and basically avoids her for the entirety of that loop. It wasn't until his suicide scene that he realizes Ram also took part in the murder/actually killed him, but he had a new drive to keep him going by that point. So he jumped off the cliff.
Um dude look Rem still has a life outside Subaru. She not just telling him to convince him not to leave. That life involves someone who taken care of her for 6 years of her and older sister who still needs her support. She had every reason to stay. If she couldn't have talked him out of it, she wasn't just change her mind and leave.
Her primary reason for not going is that he was obviously overwhelmed and quitting. Her duty to Roswaal and her sister is what stops her from just riding off with him herself while he was crazy/faking crazy.
The big part in Episode 18 is that he presented the offer wrong and for the wrong reasons, and that's why she declines.
>Emilia thought kissing made babies
>So basically whatever cute lovey-dovey scene she and Subaru share at the end of Arc 4 was enough for her to pursue having Subrau's child, even if only in the heat of the moment
>More fucking importantly, she was game to have Subrau's child right away in that loop where she loses it
I haven't read that far yet, but you're thinking of the wrong loop. This is from around chapters 34-35 (when Subaru first discovers Beako's gospel). Beatrice doesn't get killed by Elsa yet (at least not on screen)
From what I've heard, instead of Beako teleporting him to the Sanctuary when she kicks him out, he just gets killed by Elsa at the mansion instead. But I don't know anything more yet (or if that is even true)
Iirc she was told by Annerose, a bratty kid living at the new mansion they moved into by the time this came up. She didn't believe that at the time the kiss happened if that was the case.
Are you telling Rem is so obsessed with a guy she is only known for a month that she would pick him over her sister and essentially her benefactor and father figure? The AU is and AU for a reason. It's something that would require her to go against her character to happen.
Even if his reasons were better I don't she would have run away with him. Otherwise it would mean she literally stopped caring about everything else but him.
It's not about feeling bad or guilty, but rather about how he reflects on the feelings he specifically holds for Rem. None of which happens in the earlier Rem coma scenes.
This kind of makes me think this will be used as an explanation for why Subaru isn't going to even bother trying to talk to anyone about Rem throughout the rest of Arc 4.
>to show Ram's initial reactions to her sister instead of waiting to the end of the loop.
Well, it actually shows a much uglier side to it than that, with her willingness to sacrifice her sister. The WN doesn't show any scenario like that.
I do have a very slight guess about things, but that depends on whether or not Subaru actually ends up strangling Roswaal. They might have decided to have Subaru build up more slowly to that level of frustration and anger, rather than trying to punch people right off the bat.
Anon, just because we know that the clown is fucking shit, does not change the fact that he provided them a place to stay, gave them education and a job.
Even if it was pre meditated and he allowed the events to happen in the first place to acquire them, in their eyes he raised them.
>Rem is so obsessed with a guy
Yes? Also if you read this chapter, she was seriously considering it.
The only thing that was stopping her was "because of Subaru-kun".
>It's not about feeling bad or guilty, but rather about how he reflects on the feelings he specifically holds for Rem. None of which happens in the earlier Rem coma scenes.
How do you know that wasn't in the other tow earlier coma scenes in the LN? In either we don't need a third coma to know Rem had special place in his heart. Even the next Witches Tea-Party showcases this again.
If didn't know what you know about Roswaal now why would this be strange? You have look at this from the perspective of the twins. Roswaal is an assclown for sure, but he most certainly took care of them.
I didn't really get that impression. She shook her head of those things and thought back on not betraying her sister and stuff like that. I didn't see it as especially serious. There a some things we want to do but know better than to try.
Funny thing about this loop which wasn't included in the anime is that in the manga he even almost started suspecting Emilia at this point. He was really staring to lose it due to panic.
Well yes, the only one who would benefit from such a selfish scheme would be herself. She'd be betraying everyone's trust, even Subaru's. However, that doesn't mean she'd be willing to die for Roswaal's sake alone. She's not like her sister. She doesn't devote her mind, body, or soul to Roswaal.
If Subaru seemed happy and had a better sounding reason to run away I bet Rem would convince, trick, or push Subaru into turning it into a more slow and sensible moving away plan. Or try to get pregnant before they can leave.
I'm pretty sure her body at least devoted to Roswaal. That's usually expect of a servant otherwise she is poor one than Subaru because he at least devotes nearly everything to Emilia. Same with Felix towards Crusch.
Just skimming further through the Spanish translation of the LN, and there's one thing I have to say. Emilia and Subaru's interactions are absolutely nothing like they were in the WN at this stage. It really feels like someone thought everything about their relationship needed to be overhauled.
She would jump at the chance to sacrifice herself because she has a worrying fixation on doing so. Ram would never let her do it if she can help it though.
>Emilia actually acting mature
Well damn, at least she has a fighting chance now.
Maybe. Anyhow, I think there might be another change. Did he ever make Frederica listen to him talk about Rem and how much everyone should love her in the WN? Because right now it seems like one of the changes is that Subaru is a lot more eager to tell everyone everything about Rem.
Right, I don't think she would ever rationalize a sacrifice like Ram is doing here. It's not her impulsive or blaze of glory style of going out. In fact, her mind wouldn't be on the clown at all and probably more along the lines of getting fucking Elsa and the Guilty shitter off her back. Maybe nee-sama and Subaru-kun might come up if she's really going to sacrifice herself since they're nearby.
So according to CR this show is the most watched on every continent except Asia and we know they have nico where re zero also dominated.
But all this popularity only amounted to a fourth as many sales as YOI? How does this even make sense?
>Subaru is a lot more eager to tell everyone everything about Rem
Its surprising this is a change I don't like. Considering Subaru's entire relationship revolving around Rem is one that is a lot more private, calm, shy and mature. Him having always talk about Rem, to me, is a bad change.
>It really feels like someone thought everything about their relationship needed to be overhauled.
It's kind of true, though. There's a reason the vast majority of the fanbase prefers Subaru and Rem's relationship over his and Emilia's.
I'm sure a lot of it isn't about their romantic relationship but rather everything about her. It's a natural reaction in context when everyone suddenly forgets her. I'd be terrified in his shoes. I think he's doing it just to confirm a bunch of things to himself and vainly hoping for a natural reaction from them.
Well, it doesn't go into detail. Emilia asked him to tell her about Rem, so technically this is most of what he's been talking about for several hours now. In the WN, Frederica didn't know why the room she had prepared for Rem was already so clean. In the LN, she knows because Subaru has been,
>making Frederica listen to the talk of the lost truth. About the existence of that young woman named Rem, and how much is that until now that girl should be loved. Just as he told Emilia inside the dragon cart, on the way back to the mansion."
So, I think I understand the Ram scenes better in this context. Subaru is trying to tell everyone everything he knows about Rem, which is kind of a little horrifying if Gluttony still works the same way. He'd literally be overwriting all traces of her memory, without even realizing it.
Because she kind of is perflat.
It depends on if it all starts feeling incredibly futile and frustrating to him. If he's been trying to tell everyone about Rem, only for Ram to drop a "she'd want to be sacrificed for Roswaal" kind of assumption. That kind of makes me think that's something that could set off Subaru getting triggered by people assuming things about her. But I won't know until I see it.
Well she isn't Rem-tier but she's okay. She isn't table flat small.
Welp. Just looked at the scene with coma Rem and Petra, and it's really not much. He doesn't get too deep into it, nor does he spend longer than a few moments to tell her to wait for him.
>In response to Beatrice’s firm declaration of her intent, Rem dropped her shoulders, thinking “It can’t be helped”, and----
>[Rem: ----Yes, open wide.]
>[Beatrice: *Gulp*, I suppose. ------Huhh! Damn it!]
>She scoops up the cooking, holds out the spoon, and Beatrice becomes shocked, as she ate it involuntarily. However, her surprise lasted only for a moment. She immediately changes to an entranced expression and says
>[Beatrice: Mmmm…….You put it in my mouth, I suppose. But, it doesn’t taste bad. Not bad.]
>[Rem: That really makes me happy. It seems like Nee-sama and Emilia-sama invented a steamed “Baked Potato” by putting a cut in a yam potato and putting mayonnaise into it. So, I looked for some possibilities, and I worked on a mayonnaise cuisine that’s delicious even if it gets cold.]
>[Beatrice: Little by little! You said little by little! You really are perverse…..]
>[Rem: Yes, open wide.]
>[Beatrice: Aan, I suppose…...mmm, it’s delicious. Don’t mess with me, I suppose!]
>[Beatrice: Wa---wait…....in the end, this is just me doing my……]
>[Rem: Don’t just try the hot ones, but the cold ones too please! Ahh, please taste it thoroughly!]
>[Beatrice: *Gulp*, I suppose----!]
We really need more Beako and Rem moments.
Funny thing is Beako hardly talks about Rem in main storyline let acts like she misses her. Honestly I don't they are as close as some of us are making them out be in end.
Which makes if she could open up that easily to anyone it would have taken Subaru to very end of Arc 4 convince she wasn't alone.
True, but she does miss her considering Rem has been her care-taker and superviser, plus she talks has is on the same affinity with Subaru when it comes to Beatrice, we also do know that Beatrice does care for Subaru even before arc 4 like when she cried as Subaru jumped off a cliff. So the question of Beatrice opening up to Rem isn't a matter of "if" but a matter of "when" as well as is Rem will be dead or not by the end of arc .
Are there any other series that do stuff like this? the only other one i know were two sidestories in shieldbro you'd only find if you bought the vol 7 manga.
And many illustrations by the manga artist that nobody bothers to scan
I don't think Betty and Rem's conversation with Subaru are really in a similar wavelength at all. Quite few people beyond those two cared for Subaru with Emilia being the first to do so.
I don't know. Here it states she valued their relationship, however distant it may've been a lot of the time.
>[Rem: I’m sure it won’t always be fun times. Not everything will go as well as I imagine it. We might have no boys and they might all be daughters instead. Subaru-kun might feel ashamed about his family.]
In Re:zero's case it feels like bits and pieces of story you wouldn't find anywhere else. And like other anons said, with limited prints until compiled and released as a book.
How will Rem react when she finally wakes up and finds out how much Subaru angsted over her?
>Mulling over things alone wouldn't result in anything. Echidna could not be relied on anymore.
>Meaning that now, there was only one person who Subaru could share his problems with.
We wouldn't know if there was one between him and Subaru. Echidna turned Puck into a spirit for unknown reasons. They also seem to have had a contract but we don't know what that was for either. Nor do we know what pre-spirit Puck was like.
Or the simple fact that it's been more than 3 years since Tappei wrote this arc and a lot has changed since that time. You surely don't believe that Tappei did not have a single thing in mind he wanted to change when he got the chance to do in the LN publication.
>Subaru: “It's Echidna's barrier...”
>Roswaal: “Eeeeeeexactly. SANCTUARY's cemetery is her gravestone, with the barrier being something to prevent the half-bloods she used pre-death in her experiments from escaping. ….Aaaaaaaalthough I'm sure you would have aaaaaaaalready investigated into this much.”
So Santurary is used for human/demi-human experiments. Also, Roswaal's way of talking is getting more punch-able lately.
The LN version of Arc 3 was the same, through less extreme. Even the LN version of Arc 2 cut and added a bunch parts that weren't in the WN. All of them still hit same story beats, but with a more refined pacing and structure.
You kinda have understand at end of the day the WN basically Tappei's rough daft and stuff subject to change.
There are 6 arcs in total and it's ongoing. Right now we're past the halfway point of arc 4 but still have quite a lot to go. We'll have finished arc 4 by March. This is why the LN version of this arc is looking to be so different because I'm sure he didn't intend for it to be this story's Namek.
Happy new year and thanks for everything
>Subaru: “I kinda think this's changing track of the conversation, but...”
>Roswaal: “Hm? Yeeeeees?”
>Subaru raises his finger to draw attention. Roswaal tilts his head.
>Focusing firm on Roswaal's heterochromatic eyes, Subaru speaks.
>Subaru: “Is there a reason for you to unconditionally want SANCTUARY freed?”
>Roswaal responds to the question with simple silence
>Silence, as his grin slowly intensifies, and his yellow eye's gaze pierces Subaru.
>—Subaru senses on his skin that once again, the situation's mood is changing.
So Subaru just revealed to the clown that he doesn´t know about his relation with Echidna or am I missing something aside from that
>magic strong enough to change the weather
>enough melee training to stab people with his arms and blow skulls with a kick
>the dirtiest tactics you can imagine and more
you tell me. I think they said once that he "counts as an entire army"
its just Otto has Roswaal's gospel now and Subaru noted that Ram isn't her usual haughty self around him. Probably because she's weak to compliments.Not in arc 4 though.
So was her name really changed to Ryuuzu in the LN?
Actually Otto doesn't.
Ram destroyed Roswaal's gospel back in Arc 4. What Otto has in the original gospel aka the Book of Wisdom which Echidna created. That said mortals can't read the that version IIRC.
Anon i don't think that's right
Otto found someone to fix the burned gospel back up, probably in the hopes of salvaging it. If i remember right, Echidna's book of wisdom is in her possession and it's WHITE. Beatrice and Roswaal's perfect copies are BLACK.
She's still a love interest, it's just not nearly as compelling as Subaru and Rem considering she's mentally a child and stuff. Even while she's in a coma, Subaru's love for Rem manages to give us things like this.
>there are more Julius x Subaru doujins than any girl besides Rem and Emilia
That doesn't even make sense. With how much he fawns over Rem, couldn't they just have focused on her relationship with him more so than needing "This witch is the main girl" and so on? Emilia lacks so much focus in comparison, it really makes me wonder what he really thought when sitting down to write this.
The only lack of focus on Emilia is in a romantic light, considering Rem has been out of commission for the past 3 arcs. You don't need to be the main love interest to be the main girl, you know.
Well its to shit on isekai tropes I guess. He just wanted to be a "hero" of an isekai story and treated everyone like some sort of set-piece and become the shining knight that will save his "silver-haired heroine" which ultimately shat in his face.
So where does this all go with Emilia then? Because it really does love Rem quite a ways more, so all this posturing he did with Emilia and romance seems like it's all kind of wasted.
He still loves her a lot too
He kisses her in arc 4 in order to show her he does care for her before she goes back to her trial.
If he'll get anyone at the end at all depends on what will happen.
He hesitates because he doesn't want to do so while Rem is in a coma. He states that even if Emilia did come to fully understand her love, he'd not be able to enter a serious relationship with her due to his mental state
>Actually he has been showing much hesitation as of arc 6 when it comes to trying to romance Emilia
In regards to loving Rem or just her in general?
Does that kiss really mean anything at the end of the day? If he still believes her to not be matured in certain ways, he's not exactly going to pursue anything.
A little bit of both actually.
>Emilia: “I think that If you were able to divide it like that, then you and I might’ve never had to fight so much to come to understand each other. So, I reeaally love this type of Subaru.”
>[Subaru: Spoiled, aren’t I? Also, Emilia-tan confused me so much with a profound speech after that.]
>He wished that they wouldn’t say “love” or called him “attractive” so easily. Even if Subaru clearly told his feelings, Emilia’s mental growth wasn’t quite there yet. It seemed like no progress was made up until now for these two in regards to their understanding of the type of love formed in a relationship between a man and woman. Although, even if there was progress, Subaru also wouldn’t be mentally prepared. It would take 2―at least 3 years――no, if possible, even more than that, to be prepared. This was the type of incompetent state he was in.
>[Emilia: Yeah. I think that’s right. Subaru will devote himself to that girl for a while, and he might stop caring about me as well.]
>[Subaru: No. Under no circumstances would that…..]
>>happen. It shouldn’t happen.
>He swears that his feelings towards Emilia would not waver from now on either.
It’s just that his feelings for Emilia were a different part of the entirety of his feelings. Him having strong feelings towards Rem is a fact, and just like Emilia said, if she were to wake up, there was no doubt that he’d become devoted to her.
>However, she says “it’s fine” to Subaru. Then
>[Emilia: If it makes Subaru turn the other way, that just means that I’ll be the one this time to do my best for you to turn my way. I’m not worried about Subaru suddenly not being there. Therefore, I’ll also have you come my way, no matter how madly in love you become with Rem with how cute she is.]
Its up in the air for interpretation but in my opinion Subaru's romantic love for Emilia is starting to waver.
Because Love is a central theme of the story. Ultimately, Subaru loves both Emilia and Rem equally, though for different reasons and with different focuses. Because of what happens to Rem most of her scenes needed to be front loaded, and the author isn't trivializing the impact of her loss on the main character. In the WN this means that he mostly took Emilia's interactions and developments way too slow, which seems to be a big part of what he's fixing in the LNs, adding or changing scenes to give Emilia a bit more of the focus she probably should've had to start as someone who is supposed to be a viable main love interest.
Just to clarify, in the WN this loop had them originally being jumped by Elsa in the secret passage, Freddie stays in it to fight her, Elsa kills Petra offscreen and Ram is just in the village while all this happens?
All the circle jerking is in irrelevant side stories that won't be referenced or important to mainstory.
I disagree. I like their interactions and how plays hard to get. Her mental age pretty much non-issue since isn't relfected in them. If anything the Rem love is pretty overrated since romance with is even that special. Don't get me I like but it's hyper exggrated.
I guess its inclusion is to make it less of a jobber in the LN having it do something before they show it again?
Was it responsible for the meatorbs Subaru encountered in the village on his 3rd visit to the mansion?
>I like their interactions and how plays hard to get.
She's not playing hard to get, she's playing dense harem MC. She legitimately does not understand, she's not just being coy.
>Its up in the air for interpretation but in my opinion Subaru's romantic love for Emilia is starting to waver.
Sounds more like wishful thinking to me. SubaruXRem will end before SubaruxEmilia does base on how story built around their relationship and fact as Subaru stated in Arc 4 he'd never stop loving her nor will he ever leave her side. This isn't just spur thing here that will disappear.
>Subaru stated in Arc 4 he'd never stop loving her nor will he ever leave her side.
Arc 4 is also where Subaru states that he loves Rem as much as he does Emilia, to Emilia herself. And the same arc where Carmilla appears as Rem. No one can say anything for certain at this point, so it's all "wishful thinking."
> In the WN this means that he mostly took Emilia's interactions and developments way too slow, which seems to be a big part of what he's fixing in the LNs, adding or changing scenes to give Emilia a bit more of the focus she probably should've had to start as someone who is supposed to be a viable main love interest.
But Tappei isn't changing that aspect. Emilia was always viable love interest because Subaru chose her. One sideled love stories that turn mutual are pretty common in shounen romance There nothing wrong with gradual romance development either because unlike Rem Subaru and Emilia are MCs of the story. They are only character have been active in every arc and that's not gonna change for a long time.
>because unlike Rem Subaru and Emilia are MCs of the story.
Yeah, you're dumb. People don't have as much fondness for Emilia because she doesn't do a god damn thing. The LN is fixing that by giving her things her character should have been doing. She's a kind enough girl to try and comfort Subaru when he is obviously destroyed inside, if you think its okay that she completely ignores him throughout the vast majority of arc 4 you are an idiot. It doesn't make sense for her to do based on what we know about her, just like it didn't make sense for her to ignore the village in arc 3 so that was added in. Tappei was going glacially slow and realized it didn't make any sense and that readers didn't think Emilia seemed viable compared to Rem because Emilia was just not doing things Emilia should probably have done.
This also goes beyond the romance angle and into the candidate angle as well. For a nice girl who cares about people she did basically jack and shit until scenes were added in on issues she should at least care about.
I thought he was referring to sidestories. Rem, barely in the story anymore more of romantic scenes are pretty much with just Emilia. Which is not a surprise after when he confessed to her.
Emilia understands what love is and aware of Subaru's feelings, what she unsure of is her feelings towards. There is nuance to issue. Tappei is clearly playing the long game on their relationship. Hell Garfiel thinks they basically a couple already.
So in the WN she just stayed in the mansion while the village down the street was burning?
>The LN is fixing that by giving her things her character should have been doing. She's a kind enough girl to try and comfort Subaru when he is obviously destroyed inside
The WN specifically mentions Subaru not actually wanting her to do that as the reason she isn't there.
Oh, and depending on the quality of the Spanish translation, I think they may have changed the scene in which he told Emilia he loved Rem.
>Emilia understands what love is and aware of Subaru's feelings, what she unsure of is her feelings towards.
Oh god, that's going to be the end-game isn't it? Forget final bosses, if there's anything final in this, it's doing some G Gundam shit to make Emilia wake up with the power of love in the end when it comes time to deal with Satella/??? in general.
>The WN specifically mentions Subaru not actually wanting her to do that as the reason she isn't there.
And he can suck a dick. He needs help and he lets his stupid pride get in the way. If its bad enough to be obvious even Emilia should take notice as with the lap pillow scene and do at least something.
Does Subaru love Rem in LN as much as he does in WN?
It seems like Tappei is pushing Emilia romance more so he can shorten the gap between Subaru x Emilia and Subaru x Rem
Hopefully he is still keeping the polygamy promise.
And in that very same arc he tells Emilia he loves her so much that he could die. So what is your point here? Subaru's strong feelings for her hasn't even after all the things he's go through, this includes loving Rem. It's not gonna happen now. So it is wishful thinking. If want your Rem only ending you had with AU.
>Does Subaru love Rem in LN as much as he does in WN?
Fuck if I know. What I do know is that the tone feels completely different. It doesn't seem like he's actually told anyone else that he loves Rem.
It's not wishful thinking because he literally loves both equally. He might choose one or both, or one will die, or Subaru will die, or any number of things could happen. Going and saying things like
>SubaruXRem will end before SubaruxEmilia
Doesn't make sense because the story is far from over, especially when the current WN arc is all about bringing Rem back, after which is the only point where you would be able to say a dumb statement like that for sure, and the solution is probably not going to be as simple as you think.
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I doubt it. If anything I expect any and all romantic developments to reach their plateau before the final boss. Seems more fitting for this series.
Well she does in the LN. But yeah, problem with Subaru at least in the WN he's afraid to show his vulnerabilities to Emilia as her wants to be her rock like Rem is for him. It's part of the whole be Rem's Ideal hero" thing.
It doesn't seem that's like changed from the spoilers. It's just that more SubaruxEmilia stuff is being added which natural progression from the end of Arc 3.
>that part of the second trial where emilia is screaming and crying, calling subaru a liar after he killed himself and wilhelm runs in the room and immediately tries to do everything he can with ferris to him but slowly breaks down into despair as he cannot accept or understand why subaru has just committed suicide
It felt too real.
He got a whole book dedicated to him
It showed the war he participated in, the people he knew and some of which he lost, more of his interactions with Theresia, Female Roswaal, and i think it may have showed stuff post marriage as in, before she went to fight the whale? I'm not sure myself.
It was already linked here before.
>As long as Tappei doesn't cut major Rem scenes in arc 4, I'm fine with it.
Hasn't that already happened?
Subaru briefly pauses right before he'd finish his sentence, and Emilia asks "Who's Rem?" during the pause. So he hasn't actually told anyone else he loves Rem.
Subaru catches Beatrice red handed stealing the mansion's supply of mayonnaise.
While he was on the way to do the same himself.
It's more like people are unsatisfied with all she did so far.
Even in arc 4 which supposedly showed more of her development we almost get fucking nothing, she shows up for like 10% of it. I will give it that her past was fairly important in terms of reveals, but otherwise the rest was still weak.
The LN seems to be trying to give her some more screen-time though.
>problem with Subaru at least in the WN he's afraid to show his vulnerabilities to Emilia as her wants to be her rock like Rem is for him. It's part of the whole be Rem's Ideal hero" thing.
Yes, which is why I give Emilia a lot of slack in this regard, but seeing her ignore things when he's really obvious about it seems really out of character. It lacks agency and its a big part of why people find her sort of bland. Her becoming basically a doll in the AU is the logical extension of this, and that its written as a bad end is something Tappei wants to avoid.
Because it was apparently the most watched thing in fall 2016 among countries and individual US states according to the seasonal country charts, but not the most popular show of 2016 overall.
>ferris to him but slowly breaks down into despair as he cannot accept or understand why subaru has just committed suicide
Ferris understood why he did it. Its why he called him a coward, he could see that this would be like losing Crusch for him.
Has the fake Rem scene come up? From what I've heard, her death scene confession is still unchanged and the polygamy idea was also introduced.
I suppose the way to put it is like this. If Season 2 hit, you wouldn't know he was in love with Rem with the way the Arc 4 scenes were changed. You really would think it was just "DEEP FRIENDSHIP". If the Lust scene comes up, and isn't changed too much, that would probably be the first time anime-onlys would learn about it.
I'm not denying he loves both equally, I'm denying that his feelings for Emilia would randomly waver due to Rem now when they never did regardless of when she was awake or not. If he really feels that way after seeing everything about her then nothing should change. It's the one thing that has remain constant even with changes he and Emilia has gone through. Even after confronting Emilia's worst side and .accepting it
She'd probably just resign her job and try to keep her bonds to Ram intact. As in, they move away to make their family, but close enough for her children to have their Auntie Ram.
Adding to this a bit. Think of it this way, Rem told him to never give up, because it doesn't suit him. Even if it meant missing her chance to have him all to herself and getting a soccer team, it was more important that he stay true to the man she fell for and knows he can be. For better or worse (Probably worse for Rem), a big part of the was his devotion to Emilia, which explains his 'I love Emilia' line. He can't simply give up on her either without essentially betraying both the girls he cares for.
Perhaps later there will be developments that give him an out where he ends up with just one of them, or both of them, or neither, but we don't know at this point.
Only people who hate her thsoe looking for excuse to do and the fact she gets in the way of another ship really.
Okay stop this. If that was the case she wouldn't be 2nd most popular character in the story.
>Even in arc 4 which supposedly showed more of her development we almost get fucking nothing, she shows up for like 10% of it. I will give it that her past was fairly important in terms of reveals, but otherwise the rest was still weak.
Except it isn't? She moving in and out like every character in story unlit after the 3rd Witches Tea party where major it plot threads focused on her. That's far more than 10% and ch 110 is consider best chapters in the Arc.
Roswaal has even warned her that things will change between Subaru and Rem big time once she awakens. I'm not saying he'll randomly give up on her, but if he does, it won't really be out of nowhere because many things will have happened by that point.
Also stop deleting your posts and correcting yourself 20 minutes later, especially when you still make mistakes anyway.
>Has the fake Rem scene come up?
Not yet. I hope the author won't make any change to it. Otherwise a lot of people will believe Subaru and Rem's relationship is nothing but a strong friendship.
I pretty sure knew the WN, but I saw her just respecting his space. I think either action would be fine, but not leaving like she did in LN is more in character, so I agree there.
>Except it isn't? She moving in and out like every character in story unlit after the 3rd Witches Tea party
I don't know what you've been reading but aside from her early appearances she's been crying in a tomb in the fetal position. Even waking up next to her every loop Subaru usually just picks her up and puts her somewhere, sometimes without even talking to her. She'll eventually get some screentime and accomplish something, but its dumb that it took the entire arc to do it.
>If that was the case she wouldn't be 2nd most popular character in the story.
You do realize Japs usually place the mains on the top spots all the time right? Of course Emilia is going to be one of the top ones.
Again i don't hate her, but most of what she did in the WN is fairly weak so far. Not sure about Arc 5, but i do know she tries to be involved much more.
>Not sure about Arc 5, but i do know she tries to be involved much more.
She does get a lot more in arc 5, but it still took her fucking half of her supposed time as the heroine to get that much.
She was respecting his space, but that takes an amount of awareness I don't think she actually has. She was characterized as someone who will meddle with people who need help even if its not actually all that good of an idea. Its why she helps Subaru, and Plum, and why it was added that she at least try and help the village. It just seems weird that she'd sit back and do nothing.