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What do Asuka and Shinji do after Instrumentality ended and they

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What do Asuka and Shinji do after Instrumentality ended and they end up on the beach next to each other with the LCL liquid? Do they go their separate ways or do they kill each other? Hate sex?
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They have a beach episode.
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>>151472599
Playing in LCL water sounds like fun.
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>>151472540

Shinji cries.

Asuka bitches.

Rei watches.

Everything is right with the world.
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>>151472540
in this picture, Shinji's distant gaze reminds me of chris-chan when he was a child
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>>151472842
Looks like he staring at Asuka's ass, and Asuka looks a bit taller.
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>>151472873
nope, Asuka is taller here but his eyes aren't on her ass
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>>151472540

They make Mari.
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>>151472922
Mari is their kid?
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>>151472540
Are we asking for the suggestive narrative regarding interpretive aesthetic elements or how the plot unraveled into it's conclusion through the given information of both the show and movie?
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>>151472955
Only in some batshit LASfags headcanon.
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>>151473477
Right now she's a shit fan service character, it would be an improvement.
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>>151472540
It's pretty obvious what happened.
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>>151472922
Mari is Asukas mom you idjit
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>>151473495
Hate sex.
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Is Asuka the original example of worst girl wins?
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>>151473502
>shikinami
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>>151473486
Giving shallow characters retarded backstories is not improvement. This is a very common disease in animu where the writers just shit up nonsense background because they think it gives "depth" to their "characters".
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>>151473507
How does she "win" per say? As an Asukafag, I wish she did win.
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>>151472540
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>>151473507
Winning is like NTR in the sense that it lost all meaning long ago and is just some nonsensical meme now.
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>>151473557
just perfect
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>>151472540
They should have fucked like there is no tomorrow. It's what I would have wanted to do with Asuka.
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>>151472540
They probably get into the robot
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>>151473557
Yup that's me.
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>>151472540
Shinji probably just fucks off to be alone. At this point, everyone he actually cares about is dead, with Asuka being...well, Asuka.

Look, let's face it, she's kind of a bitch. If I was Shinji, I'd just go out and be a hermit. Because fuck it, if I'm going to be the last man on earth, might was well enjoy it before I end up dying. Planet's so fucked up I doubt I'd survive long anyway, no water or plant/animal life to keep me alive. Maybe I'll talk to Rei. Or my hallucinations of Rei. I don't fucking know, it's Eva, I can't explain this shit.
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They grow up and old and live happily ever after. Nothing else to fucking do anyway, may as well. Probably build a nice hut on the shores of the red sea and walk it, looking for old friends to return all the time.
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>>151473545
She obviously won. Sex was implied many times.
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>>151473859
>Sex was implied many times.

How so? They are attracted to each other but they absolutely hate each other.
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>>151473898
Read the script for the last 2 episodes. All he ever thinks about is her.
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>>151473987
Where can I find it? Mind linking it, anon?
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>>151473859
Kaworu won the Shinjibowl, but then he died.
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>>151472540
When Anno is going to finish 4.0?
Its clear Kaworu/Shinji is end game because the new OC/Asuka are also end game.
Fucking Anno went full fag with 3.33
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>>151474111
Evangelion was full fag way before that.

4.0 is going to be 2 full hours of Anno jacking off.
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>>151474111
>>151474155
shh, this thread is about EOE and the original anime, don't speak of rebuild fan fiction.
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>>151474176
Rebuild is canon, you need to get over it.
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>>151474189
So is Dragon Ball GT in Dragon Ball anime, its still shit.
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>>151474206
That doesn't stop it from being canon

>watching Dragon Ball
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I want a story of that random girl who pops up out of the sea.
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>>151474111
>>151474155
>>151474176
>>151474206

Hold on, what was the point of the Rebuilds anyway? What was wrong with the originals?
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Nothing
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>>151474297
Anno wanted a redo.
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>>151473987
So Shinji is in love with her? I thought they hated each other. Asuka and Shinji are so confusing.
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>>151474297
Anno wanted a new studio.
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>>151474104
Misato must have been so butthurt in this scene.
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>>151474468
b-b-baka...i-it's not like I like you or anything...ugyuu~
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>>151474468
Asuka luuvs shinji
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>>151474468
No she really loves him, or at least what she wishes he would be, she mainly is just mad that he is never there for her and never helps her (It's really obvious in the directer cut of episode 22) Shinji kind of likes Auska but he really loved the 2nd Rei until she exploded and got replaced with the 3rd and after he found that out and the whole Rei clone thing he just got really freaked out by her.

at least I think I don't fucking know.
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>>151474661
Asuka loves Kaji
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>>151474589
>>151474601
I wished they hugged at least once, after all they have been through they deserve it.

>>151474661
So the source of her anger stems from Shinji not showing any romantic interest in her?
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>>151474700
yeah but he chose Misato so that's not going anywhere (also he dead)
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>>151474735
She still only had eyes for Kaji.
She wanted to use Shinji as a puppet, but the real love was Kaji.
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>>151474734
kind of it's not so much that he doesn't show any romantic interest in her, it's more that when they first meet all she has heard of Shinji is that he's that miracle pilot that defeated an angel the first time he got into an Eva, so when they meet she assumes he's going to be super high speed and like her (and deep down she wants someone whos on her level to help her out of her mom tried to kill her then herself) but then they meet and he's this beta pussy and she's angry because she thinks he could be way more than he is and then help her.
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>>151474781
the irony here is the manga was pretty Shinji/Asuka
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>>151474818
They were bros and a lot more friendly than in the Anime, but Asuka only had eyes for Kaji.
Shinji made out with the angel boy, but I think he loved Rei.
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>>151474735
During her mind rape when she "confessed" to Kaji, she said "that's not the real me!" or something like that, next scene is calling how to Kaji and then she see's Shinji "why are you there?! You don't do anything! You don't hold me! You won't even help me!"

>>151474781
err, the Sadomoto manga is non canon.

>>151474818
Is it? I haven't read the manga because I heard it was Kaworu/Shinji and Shinji/Rei, you sure?[/poiler]
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>>151474862
The Sadamoto manga is canon.
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>>151474856
In the anime she said this version of her "isn't the real me!

>>151474885
The only "true" canon is the anime, it was made by the character designer
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>>151474856
the ending implies that they'll be a thing I remember noticing more of those ship moments, and the make thing was forced, in fact manga Kaworu was a complete ass and because of that his death at Shinji's hands is much weaker but that's not really on-topic
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>>151474948
The scene where she pulled out her boobs, not the confession.
Her affection for Kaji is very real, that's why she always calls to Kaji for help.

She just wanted Shinji to be a puppet to her, that's why she says if you won't give everything to me (like a puppet or slave), then I don't want anything from you.
If she truly loved him, she wouldn't say she wants nothing from him, she'd take what she can get.

Even with Kaji not giving everything to her, she tried to take what she could get. That's true affection.
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>>151474953
Sadamoto didn't intend anything between Asuka and Shinji in the Manga. He just made them to be bros.

>Sadamoto: In fact, Shinji and Rei, and Shinji and Asuka, their touch stopped at holding hands. Everytime they hold their hands, it has a different meaning. It is one fun fact about EVA……So I never intend to let the children’s relationship go beyond that. On the contrary, Kaworu is the only one who overstep the boundary, he break the rule.
>All About Kaworu Nagisa, 2008
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>>151474734
Asuka knows he looks, she can see his eyes, too. She's mad that he doesn't read her mind and react exactly like she's inviting him to without her having to expose herself. And his ability threatens her self-esteem. Plus he's exactly the same as her but only in ways she is absolutely unwilling to admit about herself.
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>>151474998
well that's how I saw it when I read the manga
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>>151474962
Wrong, she confessed to him "I'm ready for you Kaji-san! Be it kissing or beyond!" then she yells out that it isn't the real her.

You're missing the point anyway, the whole scene was supposed to show her the real thing underneath.

>>151474998
Actually they made pairing choices based on Japanese poll on who was the most popular character among Nips, true story.
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>>151475050
I think you need to reread it, cause I don't know how you came to that conclusion.
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>>151475011
There is also the scene where she invites him to her room during "Inpenitrable Wall of Jericho" scene and she is deeply hurt he didn't notice her hint.
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>>151475062
Yeah, the real her isn't ready for sex or an adult relationship.
Never in that sequence did it say her love for Kaji wasn't the real her.

When Asuka is being honest she says she doesn't want anything from Shinji unless he's a puppet to her (so that's not love), and she also says in EoE she'd rather die than do it with him (become one in instrumentality), which is probably one reason why she left.

You can say that she's being "tsundere" or that she doesn't really mean that, but the truth is you can't handle the fact that girls like Asuka aren't and never will be interested in you.
You can't handle girls rejecting you for stronger and more attractive men, so you pretend they aren't being honest with their feelings.
You're pathetic.

>he most popular character among Nips
Rei is the most popular by far, and she is never paired with Shinji.

Sadamoto has a crush on Kaworu, so he put him with Shinji.
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>>151475064
stuff like Shinji actually saving Asuka, and her enthusiasm at that fact there were other things I must've forgot though, really the only things that stuck with me was that impression and the changes made to Kaworu
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>>151472540
I'm pretty sure the Adam and Eve story would give you a hint.
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>>151475154
Because in the Manga they become friends and get along quite well.

Shinji even tries to help Asuka get Kaji to notice her like they are bros.
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>>151475127
i think you can't understand asuka because you might actually have some autism
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>>151475170
That doesn't make any sense because Yui said other humans are coming back.
And Eve is Unit 01.
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>>151475182
now that I don't remember at all
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>>151475200
Asuka is written like a realistic teenage girl, I understand her far more than you ever could.

You're a boy who's never had any close contact with another girl, so there's no way you could understand how she feels or her intentions.
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>>151475127
Actually Asuka was referring to she wanted him to giver her attention and nothing but. The pool scene during thermal expansion and her jealousy with Rei. Asuka also spied on Rei when the first child went to visit Shinji in the hospital. Meaning either she was deeply worried about Shinji or jealous of their relationship.

>You're pathetic.

You sound angry.

>Rei is the most popular by far, and she is never paired with Shinji.

not really the case with rebuild and the manga. infact they go out in dates in Shinji Ikari Raising Project manga and was a one sided crush in Angelic Days.
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>>151475235
>You're a boy who's never had any close contact with another girl, so there's no way you could understand how she feels or her intentions.

normalfag pls go
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Reminder that Shinji is canonicaly heterosexual.
>Speaking about the blushing, is it because Shinji was happy that someone said they like him?
>Anno: Yes, Shinji-kun really didn't experience carnal desire there *laugh*.
Confirmed by Anno himself.
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>>151475277
Both of those are side Manga not made by Khara.
I'm talking about the canon stuff: Manga, Anime, Rebuild. And Rei and Shinji are never paired together.

>>151475277
>>151475303
You only project onto Asuka because you want to pretend a girl would ever be interested in your ugly ass just because you're "nice" to her, and think you can save her.
Get over yourself, you don't really like Asuka and you're not really a fan of her.
You're just using her as a tool to delude yourself into thinking you could ever be loved by another woman.

You won't accept the real Asuka for who she is, she would despise you if she was real.
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>>151475235
Yeah, I agree with >>151475200
You probably have some autism.
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>>151475348
Does saying that make you feel better? You think a girl would ever look past your looks for your personality?

Imagine yourself in 50 years. Living alone, and still a virgin. Doesn't that image frighten you?
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>>151475335
From all the leaps and assumptions you keep making about people, I think you might be the one projecting.
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>>151475303
I don't think you can have that level of honest to god tsun and still be considered a normalfag.
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>>151475388
This is Psychology 101. You aren't exactly doing a very good job of hiding who you are in your posting style.
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>>151475182
Its still canon.

>projecting

You don't sound like you are from here, I want reddit to leave.
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>>151475119
That's the best one. She uses Bible trivia and doublespeak to challenge him to attack her in the night and fuck on their guardian's bed if he isn't a little kid, and then she waited up. That is the Resident Evil puzzle of pickups.
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>>151475235
I don't know if you're>>151475335
but if you are aren't you flat out admitting to projecting yourself onto asuka? I'm not saying the other anon isn't as well but ii is Autistic as shit to calm you get a character just because you were once the same age and because you're the same sex as that character
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>>151475329
His mouth looks like lipstick in the thumbnail.
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>>151475420
Shhh. It's supposed to be a secret.
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>>151475420
Oh, I'm sure my first post in this thread really tells you who I am.
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>>151475449
Asuka is written to be your average teenage girl, any girl could understand her plight and what she goes through.

But naturally men will see her as a mystery even though she's clear as day to women.

I believe Anno himself said Evangelion was a feminist Anime, that explains why the fanbase is more than half of women in Japan.
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>>151475445
She really wanted sex I think, and one of those among many instances of her failed romantic exploits cause her mental condition to deteriorate.
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>>151473557
> Has access and knowledge of NERV and SEELE
> Doesn't just get more EVAs built and fuck shit up himself

Once again shinji gets everything he deserves
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>>151474468
.. she kissed him
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>>151475491
so women are shit is the message of evangelion?
but is she really though? your statement implies all women will have the same thoughts and feelings about Asuka anon, that's kind of a leap
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>>151474297
Some fans complained about the last 2 episodes and even EoE so he decided to rebuild it and make it "better". Alternatively he had some expensive new animation equipment, a talented studio and a work so popular pretty much everything about it sells.
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>>151475541
How did you get that message?
Evangelion is pretty pro-women.
I think it's the only time in Anime where the female menstrual cycle was even brought up. That might not seem like a big deal to you, but I think it kinda is.

I'm saying her struggles can be understand and related to by women, because they are things women typically experience in their life.
Not just her, but Misato too.
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>>151475575
>How did you get that message?
jokes anon, i'm saying Asuka is shit and if she's a acute representation of women then eva mus think women are shit, it's a joke though since I like Asuka

can't men also relate to Asuka and Misato
though? The were even written by a man
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>>151475575
>Evangelion is pretty pro-women.
>sexual assault and domestic assault against women is pro women message
>mfw
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>>151475465
Don't get me the wrong way but some examples are way more obvious than others.
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this thread is full of autism
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>>151475630
I don't think Asuka is shit, I love her like a 2D sisterfu.

Yes, I think anyone can relate to everyone in Evangelion.
But of course there will be some women specific things and men specific things in the female and male characters that you can't understand unless you experience them yourself.
I think Asuka is a very personal character in that way. I can't help but see myself in her.

>>151475649
It never portrays those things as positive, and actually goes into the minds of these women and how they feel about these things.
So yes, it is very pro-women. The majority of the main characters are women, in positions of power and taken seriously. How is that not pro-women?
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God fucking damn, the "you don't actually like Asuka! You only like the idea of her you created in your mind" autist is back.
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>>151475536
Well that's lust, but its not true love. Then again, nobody of the canon pairings are normal couples.
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>>151475691
is this your first eva thread?
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>>151475710
I think if you only see Asuka as fap material, you don't really like her.

You're doing the same thing she yelled at Shinji for in Eva.

You aren't seeing her for the real her.

I'm just sad because it seems many people in these threads would rather talk about her ass than her character, even though she is so well-written. It seems like a waste. I feel bad for her.
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>>151475706
>It never portrays those things as positive

Yeah, Asuka reacts to the masturbation as "do it as you always do it Shinji" during Instrumentality and touches his cheek when he was about to kill her.

Don't see it.

>>151475767
Nobody was talking about her ass in this thread, but it is undeniable she was mad at Shinji because he didn't notice her romantic advances. Its pretty fucking obvious.
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>>151475767
That's cause I learned my lesson when I was a newfag. Whenever I say something I relly mean or really want, it kills the thread and gets me all the wrong kinds of attention.
It's better to keep people at a distance with shitposts and dry attempts at humor. It's not like any of these people will affect my life or connect to me on any level.
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>>151475706
i'm not disputing the gender specific stuff, i'll never know what it's like have a period, and i'm happier for it and again the "Asuka is shit" was a joke


I saw Ritsuko getting capped as a positive actually
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>>151475795
She says that in a spiteful way, and still calls him disgusting and pathetic both in and out of Instrumentality.
The masturbation was definitely not portrayed positively. I'm surprised you think it would be.

Evangelion is definitely pro-women, in Anno's own words "A feminist Anime". But I guess that depends on how you define feminism.

She was mad at Shinji because he wasn't showing attention to her, she acted the same way with everyone who didn't show her attention. I wasn't denying that.

But I think it's clear a lot of anons like to ignore many facets of her in the show because they personally don't like them.
I can't help but feel bad for her, as it seems a great part of her fanbase is doing the same thing that she hated so much in Eva.
Not like I can do anything to change it, though.
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>>151475844
Ironic how the Anime about connecting to people has a fanbase that insults those who try to connect to people.

>>151475847
Well, Ritsuko wasn't supposed to be someone to root for. But again, the show went into her thoughts and struggles and gave her depth.
She became a very complex and well-written character, not one-note.
I think it's things like that, treating female characters seriously, that are pro-women.
They don't have to be good or sympathized with.
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>>151475888
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She was mad at Shinji because he wasn't showing attention to her, she acted the same way with everyone who didn't show her attention. I wasn't denying that.

So she goes around trying to kiss everyone and show her feminine physique off? Look at the subtitle for episode 15 for proof. Asuka desired Shinji.
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>>151475976
Magma diver?
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>>151475923
it's seriously funny how you respond to my jokes
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>>151475996
She does have red hair.
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>>151475923
>Ironic how the Anime about connecting to people has a fanbase that insults those who try to connect to people.
I wasn't trying to insult you, where did you get that idea. I might not be the most pleasant person to be around, but it's just text on the internet. Sorry.
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>>151476002
I just wanted to start a discussion, but I guess you're not in the mood for it. Sorry.
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>>151475996
I was referring to episode 15's subtitle "Those Women Longed for the Touch of Other's Lips, and Thus Invited Their Kisses"
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>>151475976
She kissed him in the episode she was paranoid about Misato kissing Kaji.
She wanted to take her mind off things, and the fact that Shinji didn't even seem to be into it made her even more angry.

The people who push her away, as if she isn't worthy, make her want them to look at her all the more.

>>151476021
My post wasn't talking about you, I was just talking about the fanbase in general.
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>>151476074
I don't think so, considering she ended a date in the same day.
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>>151476074
>>151476126
I'm pretty sure the reason wasn't that her pride was hurt, it was more that she was looking for affection desperately. Her fear is being alone. Like I said before "Wall of Jericho"
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>>151476126
Her date was giving her attention, thus she grew bored of him and threw him away.
That's what she does to every boy who fawns over her.

Had Kaji or Shinji acted the same, she would have thrown them away too.

It's actually a common thing among women, so in this way I think Asuka is very realistic, but I don't want to expand upon explaining it because you may just get angry at me.

>>151476163
Well, it's a mix of both.
Asuka loses it and breaks down the minute her pride suffers, if you'll remember the latter half of the series.
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>>151476030
it's been years since i watched eva, and back then was my first time watching it in full, i'm going back through it now but I'm limed in what i can actually talk about based on my memory.

One thing I can say though is eva is something that has stuck in my mind more than any other show, I can still recall certain things like the scene where Kensuke and Toji see Shinji in pain when unit 1 gets a tentacle run through it.

I think I have a general idea on what the characters were like as well, and i can say that Asuka wasn't a blameless angel, she never made a clear and direct attempt at opening up or trying to be understood, there's also perception when it comes to understating Asuka it isn't guaranteed that everyone will see her the way she would want to be seen, that applies to the fandom too in that not everyone is going to see Asuka the same way
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>>151476074
She wanted two opposite things at the same time, both of which were and weren't mutually exclusive. But what she really wanted was to set herself up for failure.
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>>151472540
They stay together and realize they are both broken, but at least repairable together.
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>>151476179
Her pride is just a coping mechanism, her piloting EVA is to escape the realities of her past. She hates herself deep down.
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Of course Shinji wasn't interested. She wanted him to be her slave and her audience, and do all the "logistic" and "engineering" parts of a relationship, while she gives nothing in return and gives all her affection and attention to another guy. Not because the other guy was willing to put up more effort, but precisely because the other guy in the triangle didn't do anything and wasn't willing to. He was worse than nothing, and it's surprising he didn't turn gay or go an hero after being treated like that. Oh wait, he did.
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>>151472540
>do they kill each other? Hate sex?
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>>151476360
Of course, she is deluding herself and trying to mask her flaws.
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>>151476810
So I guess humanity goes extinct post Instrumentality considering some times past and they are the only ones left.
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>>151475205
Actually some time passed, notice Misato's crucifix is nailed to a post.
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>>151477036
That was showing that it may have took up to 2 weeks before Asuka showed up along with Shinji.
Shinji was by himself for a long time.

So taking Yui's words, it seems other humans will surely follow.
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The three MCs of NGE are basically three aspects of Nadia from blue water.

Shinji looks like her.
Asuka has her personality.
Rei is a vegetarian and has (partly) alien origins, just like Nadia.
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>>151477137
>Rei is a vegetarian
the more I hear about her the worse she becomes
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>>151477016
Only Anno knows. The End is what you make of it.
But if I was in his shoes, if I was worth less than nothing to someone, if I was somehow worse than the guy who ignored her until he drove her to suicide, I would have just left. I wouldn't even say goodbye in that sort of situation. I can't be as brave or as unselfish as Shinji, I'm only human.
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>>151477189
I think she's more like a pill-arian. Only living from food supplements and such, like Robocop. Robomom.
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>spending rest of your life with kraut woman
JUST
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>>151477189
>>151477275
In the original series she isn't shown eating at all iirc, but in Rebuild she accepts Shinji's miso soup after refusing to eat red meat.

My guess is that being Lilith's vessel gives her a certain aversion to eating animals, since that would be kind of fucked up.`
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>>151477331
You don't love any of the characters if you forgot them getting ramen together.
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>>151472540
They go separate ways and never meet again.
Asuka probably goes back to Germany, marries some hot guy and gets 3 children.
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>>151474189
no the rebuilds are not canon
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>>151474189
Rebuilds are obviously not canon, they renamed Asuka for a reason.
>>151474661
Asuka doesn't give a shit about Shinji and Shinji is only interested in Asuka in a sexual way.

Shinji didn't love Rei either, she just felt like his mother.

>>151475335
Manga isn't canon. Rebuilds aren't canon.
Only NGE/EoE is canon.

>>151475976
Asuka wants to be accepted as a woman, but gets denied that by everyone around her.
Asuka doesn't give a shit about Shinji, she just wanted to be seen as a grown woman.

She wears Misatos shirt for a reason every time Misato isn't at home.
Misato also denies her the perfume and her tits magically looked smaller when she shows them to Kaji.
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>>151477594
I wouldn't jump to conclusions about the Rebuilds until 3.0 + 1.0. They MIGHT be canon, although I'd prefer they stay a separate continuity with some kind of ambiguous link to explain the similar circumstances surrounding Shinji.
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This scene shows it all. If autists ITT had some teenage romantic experience, they wouldn't have doubts about mutual attraction between Asuka and Shinji.
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>>151478352
They also bicker like a couple would.
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This scene shows it all. If autists ITT had some teenage romantic experience, they wouldn't have doubts about mutual attraction between Asuka and Shinji.
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>>151478411
>One More Final: I Need You
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Deep down she does care, at least a little.
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>>151478352
They're mainly embarrassed because they got called out
>>151478454
this
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>>151478206
No they are not canon period.
They are too terrible and too big of an insult to the original to even entertain the possibility of them being canon.
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>>151478423
>>151478454
>>151476919
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>>151478454
She cares a lot about both of her fellow pilots, it's just that she's afraid of whether or not they'll return that concern.
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>>151478562
Bro, they're written and directed by Anno and Shinji themselves. If they say it's canon then it is. We just have to wait and see.
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>>151473545
Doesn't Asuka win in pretty much every Evangelion alternate continuity anyway?
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>>151478622
No they're not, Anno completely lost his vision. He's just sullying his own work at this point.
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>>151478647
Maybe he lost his vision, but he got the lobes for business in return.
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>>151478757
He should off himself at this point desu.
Or get a revelation, never make/release 4.0 and nuke everything rebuild related ever.
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>>151478631
What about the Shinji Ikari Raising Project manga, does she win in that?
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>all these anons who didn't even try to analyze DC of episode 22
>all these anons who didn't even try to analyze flashing images througout series
get over it, Asuka was on the beach at the end for a reason, they are semi-canon
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>>151479068
There is also a rumor/theory that she was pregnant towards the end, her line "kimochi warui" was meant to refer to some morning sickness.
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>>151479068
She was at the beach because she didn't want to get permanently fused with those other plebs.
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>>151479120
Why next to Shinji though?
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>>151479139
Rei put them there
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>>151479147
She must have had a ulterior motive.
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>>151479164
She wanted to show Shinji that thanks to instrumentality, Asuka saw him masturbate to her.
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>>151479181
kimochii warui
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>>151478631
No?

She only won in Angelic Days.

NGE2, Puchi Eva Manga, ANIMA, and Campus Apocolypse (sort of) were all won by Kaworu.

Rei won 0.
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>>151479215
Exactly

“‘At last Anno asked me ‘Miyamura, just imagine you are sleeping in your bed and a stranger sneaks into your room. He can rape you anytime as you are asleep but he doesn’t. Instead, he masturbates looking at you, when you wake up and know what he did to you. What do you think you would say?’ I had been thinking he was a strange* man, but at that moment I felt disgusting. So I told him that I thought 'Disgusting.’ And then he sighed and said, 'I thought as much.’”
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>>151479238
Kaworu also won the Anime, Manga, and soon to be Rebuild.
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>>151479545
>anime
>dies at the end
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That's kinda hard to answer, tbqh

First, we need to understand, that besides Shinji being a retard throughout the series, Asuka still wanted to connect to him, she didn't actually mind to be saved by him (we remember her reaction in "Magma Diver") but she also wanted him to act more like Kaji, be a real man (in a sense of being independent and making his own decisions, we remember her asking him out in "Magma Diver" when he doesn't try to protest and be a man), because she believes that worthy man can save her and she can act more openly (we remember her being all dreamy and funny around Kaji). Shinji fails at everything she wants to see in him, hence her annoyance with his presence in her mind rape sequence. He is there, beside Kaji, she's attracted to him as much as she's attracted to Kaji, but she doesn't understand why. She didn't manage to connect to him, he didn't come to her at night, he didn't hold her while they kissed. "Why are you there?". She doesn't understand why she cares, she can't accept "the real her". Along with flashing images during mind rape (ALL of them focus on her attraction to Shinji, there are even phallic symbols (pic related)) mind rape opens up everything. Asuka is forced to come to terms with the nature of her relationship with others and society, trying to reject others but eventually having to come to terms with her inability to remain alone. The final ("I need you", Asuka still needs Shinji, as a person she wants to connect to, now that she finally accepted herself) bring a resolution to their mutual hedgehog's dilemma. They finally manage to connect to each other, they are ready to open their hearts to each other. What will happen next? Well, Asuka's definitely mad at him for sexual harassment (I would beat the shit out of him tbqh), they'll need to sort things out. But that won't be a problem, there's hope. Hope's one of the main themes of the series, as we see in episode 7. Hope for humanity and hope for those two.
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>>151479779
Kaji also dies, would you deny he won the Misatobowl?
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>>151479860
Why is Kaji always so smug?
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>>151479262
>then he sighed
d-did Anno break into some chicks house? Was this his way of gauging whether or not she'd like him after
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When they say everyone can choose to "come back" from LCL, what does that even mean?
Does your body just spontaneously materialize from the sea of LCL?
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>>151479897
Because he has two 10/10 chicks after his dick
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>>151480055
>be a cute Japanese 3DPD
>be asleep
>suddenly you hear some heavy grunting in your sleep
>you decide to ignore it
>grunting doesn't stop
>it intensifies
>you feel someone standing over you
>be scared shitless
>open your eyes
>look up to the skies
>and see
>I'm just a pooor booy, nobody loves mee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdUPwR6mzXo
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>>151480104
>Does your body just spontaneously materialize from the sea of LCL?
Probably so, everyone is composed if LCL kept in human shape by their own AT field, so when they manage to gain a sense of self they should just reform
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>>151480055
>I was only 9 years old
>I loved Anno so much, I had all the Eva merchandise and movies
>I pray to Anno every night before bed, thanking him for the life I’ve been given
>"Anno is love" I say; “Anno is life”
>My dad hears me and calls me a faggot
>I know he was just jealous of my devotion for Anno
>I called him a cunt
>He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep
>I’m crying now, and my face hurts
>I lay in bed and it’s really cold
>Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me
>It’s Anno
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear “Shinji is gay for Kaworu.”
>He grabs me with his powerful otaku hands and puts me down onto my back
>I’m ready
>I unbutton my shirt for Anno
>He takes out his dick and starts furiously masturbating
>It hurts so much but I do it for Anno
>I can see his cock hardening as my eyes start to water
>I rub my nipples
>I want to please Anno
>He roars in a mighty roar as he fills his hand with his love
>My dad walks in
>Anno looks him straight in the eyes, sighs and says “I'm so fucked up.”
>Anno leaves through my window
>Anno is love. Anno is life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0aTpkn1M30
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>>151480055
He broke into Iku-chan's house
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>>151478647
>lost his vision
>made the most critically acclaimed godzilla movie of modern times praised for its social commentary
If anything he's just fucking with Eva fans at this point. 3.0 + 1.0 will be a return to form. Mark my words and have faith in the mastwr.
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>>151480750
No fuck you, fucking nuke the rebuild garbage.
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>>151479119
That's an Evageeks crackpot theory, original quote was "there's no way I'd let you kill me" and the final line was her seiyuu's response when Anno asked her thoughts about someone masturbating to her body. It's just supposed to convey spite with a hint of dramatic irony.
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>>151480774
It's nobody's fault he stole your idiot, Asuka.
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>>151480819
Asuka doesn't give a fuck about Shinji.
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>>151480750
Rebuild is great because it panders to me
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>>151480750
I get the impression he wants to be done with eva, and was forced back into doing it for some reason or another. I haven't watched Shin Godzilla yet but i'm excited to
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>>151480806
Evageeks are fucking creepy, I opened the site exactly once to look for a list of angels. Saw they had a doll of Asuka on the front page and just did a 180.
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>>151477331
In the original she was constantly reminding everyone she doesn't like meat.
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>make an anime with a message to people to live their own life
> everyone just continues to fap and ship the shit out of it
being Anno is eternal suffering
I want to hold him
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>>151480903
>just did a 180
>not doing a 360
>>>/reddit/
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>>151480953
She said it once
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>>151480962
>make an anime with a message to people to live their own life
>turns his most glorious work ever into waifubait fapmaterial
He should kill himself
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>>151480962
>make an anime with a message to people to live their own life
Earlier today someone exploded at me for telling them to form their own conclusions and opinions. After criticising me for my affront, the person went on to express his hatred for democracy and free speech in several hundred words. That same person has seen Eva a month ago.
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>>151480962
people will be driven to masturbate to characters they relate to, it's unavoidable
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>>151480891
You're a brainless sheep sucking Anno's dick, nothing more.

>>151480750
Anno has lost his way, he's not fucking with EVA fans. He's just pleasing himself.
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>>151480997
>not doing a 360

>doing a twirl
>>>/cgl/
>>>/tumblr/
>>151475556
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>>151481506
>You're a brainless sheep sucking Anno's dick, nothing more.
think whatever makes you happy anon
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>>151481105
He didn't do that, though. Yamaga and the Gainax marketing department did because they had previously went bankrupt after every project they did.
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>>151481708
Well he didn't keep them from doing it.
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>>151481743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIAXG_QcQNU
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>>151481743
He tried considerably. The Evangelions were designed to be hard to make toys of (and this actually made kaiyodo and bandai pretty upset), but short of killing Yamaga and taking over Gainax there was't much he could do.
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>>151481508
Yuri on Ice is a good show, anon
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>>151482047
Absolutely. It's just not my kind of show.
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>>151482028
Although Rebuild is entirely on Anno's initiative and doesn't really fit this idea
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>>151481578
>that petty resignation
Brainless sheep indeed.
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>>151481578
>>151483485
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Reminder that new canon is best canon
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>>151483485
>>151483775
why would i argue with a stranger on the internet about whether or not a man that made a Korean animated drama is a hack or not
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Nothing. The timeline resets to start RoE.
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>>151484106
Why would you keep pressing your thoughts and opinions onto internet strangers, but refuse to consider your own thoughts?

The answer: you're a brainless sheep.
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>>151484298
I didn't do that though
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>>151484395
Yes, you did, refer to earlier posts. If you don't care, then just shut up, sheep. Enough mewing from you.
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>>151484417
no i didn't anon I stated what I think and only once at that never forced them on to anyone or even attempted to get someone else to accept them
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>>151475575
>Evangelion is pretty pro-women
a WOMAN destroyed the world.
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>>151484459
>baaaaaaaaaaaaah
-you
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>>151472540
Rebuild begins.
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>>151484661
So? The fact that they portrayed a woman with having that much power shows it is pro-women and feminist Anime.
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>>151484794
The master loves ultraman, what else is new.
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>>151484661
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>>151484816
>>151484661
It's more nuanced than that.

Take the "period" thing, for instance. How does it "bring it up" ? Well, it doesn't really bring it up besides showing how annoyed Asuka is about having it. It's a single scene lasting 15 seconds tops in about 26 episodes, and this is because they stretched it.

Then who is Asuka? Well, she's a brainwashed puppet who constantly moans, annoys and otherwise screws things up for others including herself. She's good for nothing, and her own self destructiveness ends up as her own undoing. She's powerless and unable to do anything.
Not very feminist, is it?

Consider Misato, AKA "slut shaming - the character". She's had sex with one guy, and spends her entire end of series finale being insecure about how much of a slut she is. Not exactly very feminist either. In fact, what the fuck was Anno thinking here? The "girl in control" would be a good angle, but Kaji just outdoes her in truth searching. At best a pseudo-feminist character like Scully.

But then, consider good ol' Rei. Now there you've got some feminist potential. It's not a success story with a supersweet end, but it has everything. Gendo, the ultimate patriarch, the father, the commander, the abuser in so many ways is Rei's prime initial relation. He is the oppressor, having literally molded Rei from the image of his ideal wife, and he intends to use her and then discard her to revive his wife.

Rei ends up beating the hell out of Gendo, and then runs off with his entire prize, reclaiming the suppressed power she had within her, and then aids reviving the world.

That's nuance.
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>>151485111
I don't think you know what feminist and pro-women actually means.

Misato and Asuka don't have to be portrayed as powerful, they just have to be treated as characters with depth and complexity. They just have to be respected as legitimate characters and not one-note objects that please the male characters like in so many harem.

This is why Evangelion is feminist and pro-women and makes us feel validated.
You proved me right with the Rei bit anyhow.
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>>151485111
>this entire post
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>tfw we'll never see an Asuka-Shinji sex scene
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Evangelion isn't necessarily feminist, it's just realism. Like in real life the female characters are people with free agency.
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>>151485393
Someone needs to go back and look at the frames carefully.
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>>151485221
>Misato and Asuka don't have to be portrayed as powerful, they just have to be treated as characters with depth and complexity.

You know, you chose the wrong show for this one. Evangelion's characters are whether you like it or not designed with the male eye in mind. They cover a wide range of male preferences, are in fact designed specifically to be pleasing for men. Designed by men, for men.

If you lack read or consume fiction that lack female characters with depth or complexity, chances are that you are in fact simply consuming vapid fiction. Another point is that complex female characters are also attractive to men. It validates men's desire for the characters - otherwise we'd be susceptible to criticism for liking vapid masturbational objects, you know? You'll find that in anime that caters to men, the female characters are more than often well developed in more ways than one.

Then again, complexity? How complex is Misato's "good girl" syndrome again? Where exactly does her development lie? As the only true woman of the main cast, isn't this treatment of her character unforgivably anti feminist?

No, it has to be about the message. The story that was on the heart, the story that got told. Not something that's a function of screentime or dropping higher maturity-level buzzwords.

I much prefer >>151485415 's way of seeing things. In real life some people validate feminism/meninism, others defy it.
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>>151485505
>>151485221
I'd like to add that in e.g Asuka's case, she's specifically created from the author's own fetishes and preferences in female characters, even to the point of plagiarism.

With Misato, there's even background info that Anno was actually attempting to court a fellow co-worker through her, making Misato the ultimate symbol of man's attempt to conquer woman for himself.
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>>151475575
>I think it's the only time in Anime where the female menstrual cycle was even brought up. That might not seem like a big deal to you, but I think it kinda is.
hmm, Berserk?
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>>151485415
That's what makes it feminist, it portrays women in a realistic light.

>>151485505
>You'll find that in anime that caters to men, the female characters are more than often well developed in more ways than one.
Not at all. Look at your typical harem Anime nowadays. The entirety of the female characters is just them wanting the MC's dick, they don't have any depth and the fans don't care if they don't.

Just because it was made by a man doesn't mean anything, portraying something as feminist or pro-women isn't a hard task, it's quite easy. You just have to treat the female characters as equally valid as the males. It's very simple, and Eva accomplishes this.
Many Anime do not, especially recently.

>Then again, complexity? How complex is Misato's "good girl" syndrome again?
What are you implying here? Misato is incredibly complex. I'd dare say the most complex in the whole show after Shinji.

Your definition of feminism and pro-women is very exaggerated and wrong.

Evangelion is very popular among women, who have praised the female characters since the 90s. I think these women have more say in if Evangelion encourages feminism or not than you do, no offense.

>>151485596
This post is just untrue.
Asuka especially is probably the most representative of pro-women themes in Eva. Misato being a close second.

>>151485753
I never read it, how do they mention the menstrual cycle?
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>>151473557
who are their children?
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>>151485111
Rei is anti-women though, she was submissive to men the entire show.
She sends a bad example to girls.
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>>151485818
>Not at all. Look at your typical harem Anime nowadays. The entirety of the female characters is just them wanting the MC's dick, they don't have any depth and the fans don't care if they don't.

Cherrypicking is easy, and if you select shallow anime to compare against, no wonder you're left disappointed. You can't very well pick up porn and expect depth. Try some actual literature, or anime that tries to have a balanced cast of characters and to do well with them.

>Just because it was made by a man doesn't mean anything, portraying something as feminist or pro-women isn't a hard task, it's quite easy. You just have to treat the female characters as equally valid as the males. It's very simple, and Eva accomplishes this.
Many Anime do not, especially recently.

This isn't an argument. The things I posted earlier, were.

>What are you implying here? Misato is incredibly complex. I'd dare say the most complex in the whole show after Shinji.
>Asuka especially is probably the most representative of pro-women themes in Eva. Misato being a close second.
>Evangelion is this
>Evangleion is that

Well here's the problem. You just keep repeating that. She's super-complex, she's this, she's that, but you don't ever get to explaining why. Now I've pointed out one glaring hole in Misato's character, which you've failed or avoided to address.

So in what way? I hear talking but don't see no walking.

>>151485879
See >>151485111
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>>151485818
>I never read it, how do they mention the menstrual cycle?
well, Casca wasn't able to fight well, cause she had her menstrual cycle
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>>151485879
Which is where complexity comes in. Submissiveness in and of itself is not what makes a character "anti-women", and in Evangelion this submissiveness is used as a tool for a very feminist message, combined with the oppressing nature of e.g Gendo.

If the current status quo, or the objection that feminist has is against the oppression that women face at the hands of men, does not this initial setup provide the perfect backdrop and nurturing grounds for the writer and reader to elaborate on the possibilities the character faces?

Thus Gendo caricatures the grand patriarch which stands against Rei's caricature of the matriarch, a docile, obedient yet self-sacrificing strong woman in the young shape of a girl. Perhaps with a Japanese and an ethnocentric touch, but still an example.

The story thus includes the downfall of the patriarch at the hands of the matriarch, because the woman found it in herself to rebel and do what she wanted, chose not to serve, to accept herself before himself.

A character like Asuka or even Misato simply serves to enforce negative female stereotypes, e.g the "bitch" or the "insecure slut with daddy issues". Truth be told, Anno and Evangelion bailed on those two characters in this regard and this may be why they never reached the same critical acclaim.

>>151486101
>>151485818
>>151485753
I doubt the Anon in question has consumed much fiction or anime/manga at all, since menstruation has been mentioned in equal or greater amounts for some time before Evangelion, even more in depth as simple crude PMS jokes.
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Well this thread certainly went in a completely unexpected direction. I've never even considered half of these things.
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>>151486315
>I doubt the Anon in question has consumed much fiction or anime/manga at all, since menstruation has been mentioned in equal or greater amounts for some time before Evangelion, even more in depth as simple crude PMS jokes.
same goes to me then, but after all, I am not really what someone would call a hardcore otaku...
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ah the daily eva thread
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>>151486794
To pass the bar I'm thinking of all you had to do was to read the stuff you were made to read in high school.
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>>151472540
>235 replies to a literal fanwank thread

>>>/evageeks/
>>>/reddit/
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>>151472540
LCL is nutritious, amiright?
>Cum in the ocean
>It starts sprouting little Asukas and Shunjis
>humanity is doomed all over again
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>>151478352
Why are normalfags so sure of thenmselves?
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>>151486642
Cause most of the time it's infested with degenerate Asuka and Kaworu fans, the less fair of the EVA crowd.
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>>151486794
>I am not really what someone would call a hardcore otaku...
Does that word even have any meaning left in today's situation? It's like depression, people who have it pretend not to have it, and people who don't have it pretend to have the symptoms to gain attention.
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>>151474189

I thought that the manga, anime + movie and rebuilds are completely different universes.

I read the manga and it has a lot of shit that didn't happen in the anime, and AFAIK the rebuilds are a retelling of Evangelion.

So they went full Marvel/DC shit and everything is canon.
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>>151487005
>shippers
>fans of either character
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>>151486843
The only required reading I really read was Inferno. But I read a ton of books about aircraft, piloting and aero engineering. It was more interesting at the time than reading about why a Russian woman would throw herself under a train, or about flowers that are actually evil.
What does that make me?
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>>151487136
Who said anything about shipping?

>The only required reading I really read was Inferno.
yikes
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>>151487208
Learn to post quote. Thread's full of shipfaggotry.
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>>151485393
Thank god.
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>>151480903
>Evageeks
the Deathberry of Evangelion.

>>151480997
Your parents dropped you on the head a few times when you were a baby.
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>>151475491
>women admit they're all automatons with no individuality or capacity for thought beyond attraction
Finally.
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>>151485842
Does it matter? It's not like they love him anyways.
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>>151487465
It's time to post that image I never get a chance to post.
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>>151478352
Anyone who had a teenage crush know how superficial and flimsical those are.

>>151478391
Just so retards get this one staight, recurrent bickering is the sign of an unhealthy relationship that's just begging to be terminated before it can escalate into something ugly.
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>>151487578
Not that guy, but he's right in the case of Asuka.
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>>151487604
>not that guy
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>>151487594
crushes are just the start of love!
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>>151472540
>Leaf through manga at book store
>No Angels V Eva action

dropped
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>>151487578
Are you projecting autistic chick? It would make sense that you think in memes.
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>>151486050
>>151485879
>>151485818
>no response
It's always the Asuka fans isn't it? The idiots?
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>>151487604
I hate to perpetuate the stereotype but ARE YOU STUPID?
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>>151487861
Some times I feel stupid, I guess. But no one thinks I am.
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>>151487934
I bet your parents always told you how smart you were.
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>>151485818
>That's what makes it feminist, it portrays women in a realistic light.

Sure does, they're either histrionic bitches or insecure sluts. Extremely realistic, and the only way they're not going to be like that is if they are somehow ancient gods in human form, or the world ends.
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>>151488104
Not him but mine told me I'm stupid.
And I think I am.
And I am.
What the fuck are you people even discuss here?
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>>151488166
Dunno, ask the other guy.

Basically there was some sort of discussion going earlier on but someone obviously backed out.
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https://youtu.be/zOvVb0z6HcE?list=LLDcU6S0_VHd0j8p_GBRDVDQ
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>>151488482
What am I watching? And why?
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>>151488761
Mari sings it when she's going to fight the Angel in Rebuild 2.
I just like how it sounds.
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>>151488802
So do I, despite the disgusting taint of Mari.
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>>151488858
>disgusting taint of Mari.
Mari is soft and pure. Take that back.
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>>151485879
Is this a joke post?
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>>151488944
Mari is pure, warm and soft piece of shit
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>>151488944
Oh fuck right off.
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>>151489076
>>151489110
Play nice.
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>>151489180
>pairing a nu-Eva piece of crap with based Asuka
Even though she's Shikinami, it's outright disgusting and is a pure insult to true Eva fans
Burn in hell, faggot
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>>151489250
Too bad it's canon for shiki
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>>151489005
Is my life a joke life?
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>>151489330
What's the implication here?
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>>151474818
The manga advanced every relationship further and deeper than the anime, but the only true pairing was Gendo and Yui.

Also, Fuyutsuki got cucked.
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>>151472540
>end up with the most pathetic human in history
I feel for Asuka
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>>151478454
more than thah man. She need Shinji really bad.
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>>151489521
Asuka and Mari share a bunk. Their personal items are "interwoven and strewn about the room"
Apparently, the bottom bunk is always made because the two allegedly share the upper bunk. Mari also scribbled "Princess" in front of Asuka's name at the bottom of the bunk.
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>>151489528
>The manga advanced every relationship further and deeper than the anime
It absolutely cucked all the characters and made unnecessary and stupid changes
Also the ending was retarded, but cute, but still retarded
Flashbacks with Yui were great, I literally cried every time, her acceptance of Gendo was sweet and that's all
Sadamoto is a good artist, but the manga was your typical shonen stuff, so no
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>>151489631
>Shinji
>pathetic
confirmed for not getting Eva at all
Leave and never come back
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>>151489646
Thanks for sharing.
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>>151489811
No problem anon.
Sorry if you don't like Mari, I'm just easily amused is all. And she's cute
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>>151487578
Really? You're on 4chan and you rarely get to use this image?
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>>151489875
I can't stand the Rebuilds and Khara in general post 3.0.

Seeing stuff like this just validates what I've been saying about them pushing thoroughly for the pandering.
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>>151489932
Oh they pander for sure. I just happen to be part of the audience that's okay with that.
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>>151489891
I only use /a/. Rarely /x/, when I need a story idea or a dream interpretation.
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>>151489989
If you can acknowledge that openly even when people push you for it, I've got no problem with you, cancer.
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>>151490022
I'll admit whenever asked, no real point in lying. If it matters though, NGE>Rebuild
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>>151487098
Rebuild starts as a retelling then it goes off the rails and some characters seem aware of the events of the original series
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>>151490105
To think that Mari fans are more honest and straightforward than Asuka and Kaworufans
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>>151490280
They at least accept it that they are stupid shippers to whom the studio is pandering
Unlike Kaworufags who scream "canon" at every corner
I feel bad for Asukafags because original asushin is canon but everybody faps to kawoshin, even the one who knows the truth
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>>151490419
Asukafags never had any "canon" ship. Asukafags are worse than all of them.

Hell, in the original story Shinji confessed his love for Kaworu twice, so even the deluded Kaworufags are more in the right than them.
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>>151489646
>apparently
>allegedly
Can you just call it fanwank and be done with it?
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>>151473557
Simpsons did it.
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>>151490280
Truth is best anon
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>>151486962
Because they don't second-guess every decision they make.
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>>151490669
>Hell, in the original story Shinji confessed his love for Kaworu twice
Fucking hate this argument, not that you're arguing for it but just because you brought it up

Love doesn't mean "Yeah let's be a couple and fuck" you fujoshits. When Shinji says he loves Kaworu he means like a brother would or a best friend, it's like in MGS3 when Eva asks if Snake loves The Boss; Snake does love her, but not like a lover, the love goes deeper than that

Kaworu is the only person Shinji has ever been around that has outright confessed that he loves Shinji, whether it be an attraction to him (which can certainly be mistaken) or a confession for loving his company. Everyone else around him has felt entirely conflicted, like Asuka being tsun, Rei not knowing how to express emotion, and Gendo being exactly what Shinji is; as a result, Shinji has always been confused by how people really feel about him, despite them all loving or at least liking Shinji in the end. Kaworu had to outright tell Shinji he loved him, which was the safest way for Shinji to understand anyone, and which is also why Shinji admitted he loves Kaworu as well
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>>151491333
More like they don't think at all and are overly-confident pieces of shit.
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>>151490669
>you betrayed me like my father

Shinji's love for Kaworu is the same as Narcisse or Dorian Gray falling in love with their own idealised image. It has similar results as well. They both share certain psychological "qualities" with Shinji, by the way. Shinji fell in love with an alien creature from the higher planes which was wearing his face. 4DPD. Look at MP Evas or Adam in the flashbacks. That is the Deceiver's true form. To make matters worse he just manipulated him emotionally saying exactly what he needed to say in each scene. He drove him into suicide and claimed his soul, and was at least partially motivated by a selfish desire to observe and play games with humans.
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>>151491414
>>151491460
>Love doesn't mean "Yeah let's be a couple and fuck" you fujoshits. When Shinji says he loves Kaworu he means like a brother would or a best friend

I'm by no means a fujoshit, but you can't keep your story straight. How does those two mix? Not at all, of course.

The thing is, whether we like or not, Shinji did express those feelings, and your counter-argument doesn't have any basis - as in "it's like a brother or a friend". Regardless, none of what you've posted actually concerns the canon, the point remaining that yeah, Asuka x Shinji is in no way canon, nor a healthy or romantic relationship in itself.

Don't get me wrong. I don't like Kaworu fans nor the Kaworu character myself. I think what people see in the character is fake 100% of the time, and they're unable to for instance process the inherently negative aspects that you mentioned.

But when it comes to "shipping", the facts are that Shinji did not hook up with anyone. In the series, everyone congratulates him on a round ball and not even once did he offer Rei, Asuka or arguably Kaworu any lingering thoughs of romance, or romantic involvement. Any such story is first and foremost the vapid delusions of shipper cancer.
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>>151491618
It's almost like the fans perceive Kaworu the same was Shinji does. Poetic.
I'm not saying there wasn't affection involved. I mean you can love your dog, but that doesn't mean the dog gets a free pass from pulling the sled.
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>>151491858
>It's almost like the fans perceive Kaworu the same was Shinji does. Poetic.

No, the objectively don't. In contrast to Shinji, the fans actively delude themselves.
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>>151489635
>more than thah man. She need Shinji really bad.

The final title prove it that they both really need each other.
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>>151472540
they become Adam and Lilith
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>>151491985
>post number ends with my birth year
Creepy. Also yes.
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>>151485415
>implying free agency exists
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>>151491985
Can you shippers commit suicide already?
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>>151491985
>>151492417
>asukafag delusions

Sorry, you didn't get Evangelion.
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>>151475329
What about Shinji being bisexual?
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>>151492492
Maybe it exists on a mountain, or when you're just wandering around town. Somewhere where's no outside influence. But around someone like Asuka? No chance.
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>>151492936
I get it more than you, anyway.
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>all the shippers
In the original (the one that was shown in Moonland in 1995-1996), nobody hooks up, because we don't know what happens, we just sink throat-deep in psychology and enjoy the final message.
However, EoE, along with DC versions of episodes 21-24, provides us with a closure to Shinji and Asuka's hedgehog ark, with the latter accepting the former and herself. Shinji was her "significant other", the person who gets into your heart once you "leave the womb" (Shinji and Asuka left the Evas - their mothers - behind). As for Shinji, I think Kaworu was more or less his first "significant other", Kaworu was the first person who accepted Shinji openly and through Kaworu Shinji learns to love himself and therefore love others genuinely. So, yes, in EoE the connection is established and I know for certain that Shinji and Asuka will try to be happy.
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>>151493351
No, you don't.

>>151493354
>However, EoE, along with DC versions of episodes 21-24, provides us with a closure to Shinji and Asuka's hedgehog ark, with the latter accepting the former and herself. Shinji was her "significant other", the person who gets into your heart once you "leave the womb" (Shinji and Asuka left the Evas - their mothers - behind). As for Shinji, I think Kaworu was more or less his first "significant other", Kaworu was the first person who accepted Shinji openly and through Kaworu Shinji learns to love himself and therefore love others genuinely. So, yes, in EoE the connection is established and I know for certain that Shinji and Asuka will try to be happy.

Sorry but this is bullshit. The "closure" you speak of is only your own imagination, your personal "closure" that you made up because you couldn't deal with the series ending.
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>>151493716
Is it time to actually watch anime? Because this thread is about to go sour any minute.
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>>151493849
People like >>151493354
are just sad.

Pisses me off that people can have such shitty interpretations and not feel shame.
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>>151494111
what's the right interpretation?
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>>151494193
One that doesn't rewrite the whole series so it can be about the ship.
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>>151494111
We get it, anon. You're a kissless virgin. There's no reason fictional characters shouldn't be happy because of you. She said, don't let others suffer for your personal hatred.
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>>151494269
>One that doesn't rewrite the whole series so it can be about the ship
what do you mean?
what's your interpretation?
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>>151494271
Quit projecting, loser. Actual, real decent people don't need to rely on fictional, non-real person being """happy""", so that you can pretend to NOT be a kissless virgin through your imaginary coupling.

FYI, your "pairing" is objectively shit.

>>151494305
I mean, when losers like >>151494271
pretend he's doing it so non-real people can be "happy", he's really just taking Evangelion and using it as a sock around his cock to jerk himself off with.

Therefore his """interpretation""" inevitably becomes a a routine in which he twists Evangelion until it becomes his personal love story to compensate for the one he doesn't have himself.
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>>151479238
>She only won in Angelic Days.
Delusion won't get you kaworufags anywhere.
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>>151494600
>>151479238
You are all losers, because all you're fighting over is scraps. Rei is the best girl of the original series, and no matter how much pandering you people get or crave after the fact it won't change that.
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>>151494634
>Rei is the best girl of the original series
You are completely right, however it is in fact delusional for kaworufags to deny the endings, and the soon to be next ending with asuka.
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>>151494531
no, I get it, I mean what's the right interpretation?
what's yours?
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>>151494531
t. Miyazaki
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>>151493354
Fuck off with your fanwank.
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>>151494634
>Rei is the best girl of the original series

WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS!
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>>151495235
Rei has been the best girl for 20 years straight, yes...?
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>>151495301
I don't know what you see in Rei, she was not depicted as a waifu in any way. Only japs like Rei, nips have shit taste.
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>>151473507
nope Akane won in Ranma instead of Ukiyo or Shampoo
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>>151495380
>>151473507
Anyone that thinks Rei should have "won" is attracted to their mother.
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Asuka is best daughterfu
>good genes
>loveable
>cute
>red hair
>genius-level intellect
I want to raise her in my big house with garden in Germany
Shinji would also be a nice son, if raised properly
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>>151495366
Rei is just better in general, and that includes as a "waifu".
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>>151495429
>Implying Rei is Yui
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>>151495429
Anyone who writes what you just did is just pulling shit from their ass.
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We never heard the explanation. To be continued...
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>>151484794
AS EXPECTED OF THE MASTER

that fucker is Toku as fuck
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>>151495366
I see a better person.
I see a better character.
I see a more original, thought-provoking character.
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>>151495429
Go back to bed Freud, I love my mom but not in love with her

If anything I think Misato should've actually won but she had Kaji so next best is Rei, hell calls Rep would've even been better if it weren't for Touji

Asuka is just plain and simple a piece of shit with mommy issues and a superiority complex she's garbage
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>>151495766
>liking vore/unbirth/metamorphosis/mindbreak/giantess/hivemind/multihead/multivag/conjointed
And somehow Freud isn't at work here.
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>>151495766
>>151495429
Asukafags probably had shitty mothers, so they don't know the qualities of a good mother.
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Pretty sure Shinji could just reattempt instrumentality and try to bring everyone back since it was mentioned that it was possible for someone to come back if they so choose.
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>>151495766
lel, the whole Rei thing is literally Oedipus complex, Anno said it himself, by surrounding Shinji with three moms, two of whom he wanted to nail and one of whom he was literally riding
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>>151495495
You're disgusting. Rei and Shinji together is absolutely repulsive.

>>151495636
>asshurt detected

>>151495725
A character is that is completely in-human and alien is a better character who is represented as a real person? You have shit taste mate.

>>151495766
That's way too simplication of her character, and you don't understand the series at all. I don't know how you claim you like the series without appreciating Asuka, one of the most important characters in the the anime.
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>>151496135
>You're disgusting. Rei and Shinji together is absolutely repulsive.

Less repulsive than the other pairings, to be honest.
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>>151495533
Rei is Lilith.
Lilith is everyone's mom.
Still incestuous.
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>>151496185
>literally his biological mother and a monotone doll

Rei is literally creepy and Anno was mad when the Japanese like yourself liked her character. Rei was literally an afterthought in the anime.
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>>151496135
>A character is that is completely in-human and alien is a better character who is represented as a real person? You have shit taste mate.

None of that is any particular disadvantage when it comes to being a good character. It's not shit taste either, it's just the facts. Rei has the traits and mindset of a good, great person, while Asuka doesn't.

Asuka is Goofus, Rei is Gallant.
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>>151496039
Who was the third mother?
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>>151496267
That means Asuka has flaws, the trademark of a good character. please never write anything ever.
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>Shinji: "Angels, messengers of God, enemies named after servants of Heaven. Why are we fighting them?"

>Asuka: "What are you, stupid? Strange beings are attacking us. If you're going through a fire, you've got to brush away the embers, of course!"

>Rei Ayanami: "Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire."

really fires up the neruonisms
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>>151496262
Actually, Rei is a cornerstone of the anime, and alongside with Shinji is one of the only two characters with an actual, cohesive and consistent character arc.

The only reason Anno is mad, is because he created Asuka to be his favorite character. That's why he copied so many traits from his other favorite character, to compensate for the fact that he was never allowed to work on them by Miyazaki.

What he didn't anticipate, was that he created Asuka as an unoriginal character. In the meantime, his honest and innovative creative process with Rei actually made the most popular character in his entire career. This pissed him off because he wanted Asuka to be more popular, for shallow reasons.
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>>151496362
>please never write anything ever.

Why, because it's hurting you? Sorry to break it to you, but if your argument is that "Rei doesn't have flaws", then you should just give up.

>>151496262
I don't find Rei creepy, but I find Asuka downright disturbing and disgusting. She's a dumb puppet who doesn't have any redeeming sides besides the one you force on her.

That's disgusting.
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>>151496469
>The truth is, I have no emotional attachment to Rei at all.

>In the midst of making Eva, I suddenly realized that I had forgotten her. Her very existence. For example, in episode seven, I remembered and added one shot with Rei. I had no attachment to her at all. I think that was okay, because in episode eight, she didn't appear. Not even in a single shot.

>Episode 6 was too early.

>At the end Rei says "I don't know what to do," and Shinji says, "I think you should smile," and Rei smiles. ... Afterwards, when I thought about it, I cursed. In short, if she and Shinji completely "communicated" there, then isn't she over with? At that moment, Rei, for me, was finished.

>When she smiled, she was already finished, this character.
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Dumb people: Asuka

Horny people: Misato

Smart people: Rei
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>>151496567
And Mari?
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>>151496560
I'm sorry, are you trying to make a point?
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>>151496581
Asuka and Mari fans are dumb and dumber respectively.
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>>151496610
Rei doesn't have a "cohesive and consistent character arc", Anno made that shit up as he went like everything else.
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>>151496650
Mean.
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>>151496529
I'm still asking on why is Asuka is a bad character and you can't give me a strait answer.

>>151496469
But Asuka and Shinji's struggle is the cornerstone, I don't you you understand NGE.

Rei became popular because it appealed to Japanese men who want the quiet, monotone Japanese housewife. Infact Rei is a Mary Sue.
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>>151496667
He could have stolen the scripts or hired a thousands monkeys to write it. He may have rolled dice and then picked out the corresponding letters compared against the roll to write the script and it wouldn't matter..

It doesn't matter. There's two characters with a solid, consistent and cohesive character arc in the entirety of the NGE series, spanning from episode 1 to 26, and that is Rei and Shinji.

This is a fact borne from the result of his labour, regardless of how poor you claim his workmanship was.
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>>151488482
i like her dub voice. she sounds even crazier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrauk6XfHRo
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>>151496567
Not an argument.
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>>151496752
>I'm still asking on why is Asuka is a bad character and you can't give me a strait answer.

Actually that's the first time you've asked that, prior to that it was simply establishing that Rei forms the better person and character.
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>>151496800
Actually I did ask, when repeated gooks kept putting Asuka's character arc down as a bad character. I'm still waiting.
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>>151496765
I love her dub voice. She's voiced by Trina Nishimura who also voiced Mikasa Ackerman in the English dub of Attack on Titan/ Shingeki no Kyojin.
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>>151496752
>But Asuka and Shinji's struggle is the cornerstone, I don't you you understand NGE.

What do you mean, "Asuka and Shinji's struggle"? They're all characters and all the main cast characters, which includes Misato, Gendo, Ritsuko and Rei all have that very same struggle. You didn't get Evangelion, you didn't even try to, because all you care about was refactoring it into shipping BS.

>>151496727
Sorry, but it was so catchy. Truth be told, I like you more than most other Evangelion fans.
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>>151496800
>Rei
>better person
Rei isn't even a person to begin with. Her struggles with personhood are her main issues, after all.
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>>151496765
>That soundtrack
>Better make this snappy
>Fine! Here! IF YOU WANT IT THAT BADLY, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU THE ARM! THAT'S ENOUGH! JUST. FUCKING. DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE!!!!
muh dick
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>>151496840
Sometimes I wish /a/ had flags like /pol/, it would explain the shitposters.
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>>151496862
>Truth be told, I like you more than most other Evangelion fans.
That's awfully nice anon! I'm sure you're a nice person too.
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>>151496840
Where did you ask this? Then does it matter? You're just trying to shift the topic.

>>151496872
In terms of consciousness and personhood, Rei rates far higher than Asuka.

Unlike Asuka, Rei has a definition of her self which isn't solely depending on someone or something else. Rei is able to define and understand herself on her own terms, whilst Asuka is comparable to a broken, noisy puppet which only follows it's given, broken and self-destructive programming.

Asuka is never able to confront herself and understand what's around her, to truly be conscious. Rei was able to do that from the start, but Asuka never got out of that loop in NGE.

Asuka also has similar (but easier to solve) personal problems, but Asuka never gets where Rei got.
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>>151496884
Woah, so this is the modern Evangelion audience.
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>ITT: retards arguing who "got" Evangelion right
my fucking sides, you're all babies, fucking kill yourselves
besides, I'm the one who got it right, so go ahead and ask me anything, I'll provide the answers
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>>151496950
>reddit spacing
Why should I even bother reading this post from a literal redditor?
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>>151496760
Anno admits he had played out his entire original vision of Rei's character by Ep 6. Everything about her character after he made up on the spot, and he doesn't respect it at all. Anno himself doesn't consider her a fleshed out character.
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>>151496862
Misato and Gendo's arcs are meant to highlight the similarities of the second child and third child, am I the only one who noticed this? Gendo's self loathing (Gendo is hinted as being what an adult Shinji would be like) and being unworthy to love, Misato's manipulation of Kaji and hatred of her father and Asuka's need for attention. These characters are connected and I'm deeply surprised nobody managed to pick it up.
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>>151496959
>Anon can't into fun and enjoyment on a personal level
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>>151496950
So just described Asuka as a flawed person and Rei as nothing but a Mary Sue. I'm glad we agree.
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>>151496841
Loving yourself is important.
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>>151497047
>Anno admits he had played out his entire original vision of Rei's character by Ep 6. Everything about her character after he made up on the spot, and he doesn't respect it at all. Anno himself doesn't consider her a fleshed out character.

Anno could say Evangelion is shit, or that Evangelion is really just about the color red. Ultimately, what Anno says doesn't matter, it's what he produced. So your (and his) arguments are all "out of canon" sentiments, just that, nothing more. Nothing worth taken seirously. It only shows that you're sort of aggressive and malcontent since you won't consider source.
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>>151497135
>Reifags are this delusional.
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>>151497112
>So just described Asuka as a flawed person and Rei as nothing but a Mary Sue. I'm glad we agree.

Nothing about that implies "mary sue", and the sooner you stop using buzzwords (and using them wrong at that), the sooner we can have a real discussion. Care to try again?
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>>151497089
Of course, we should all strive to be like >>151496841
who watches dubs of fucking SnK. Let us complete the metamorphosis into gaia, am I right?
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>>151495471
>genius-level intellect
They kinda all had that. Rei was studying weird biology in German and had memorized the ventilation system of headquarters, Shinji played perfect Bach from memory and circumvented the systems intended to keep him from attacking headquarters as soon as he wanted to attack headquarters. Asuka's more distinct for her drive.
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>>151497055
You're simply reading too much into it. Start with the basics, don't jump to conclusions because you want to chase some ideal parallel.

>>151497168
It's called being objective and rational.
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>>151497135
>or that Evangelion is really just about the color red

It isn't?
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>>151496996
>>151497112
Is this the best Asuka fans are able to muster? Non-arguments, redditor accusations and nothing more?

At least back in the day they were able to provide some character analysis, instead of acting like a butthurt loser from /jp/.

>>151497235
Not pointing fingers, but there's some who seem to think that.
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>>151497114
Very important.

>>151497184
>He doesn't watch both for enjoyment and critique
Step it up anon
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>>151474231
Don't say shit about dragon ball faggot
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>>151497168
Use your brain, Asukafag. If Anno came out today and told you that Asuka was shit, would you then change your opinion based on that? You should be able to consider whether or not Asuka is shit just based on the actual character. If you need Anno to "back you up", then you're just a weakwilled nonce who simply plays follow the leader, so you can have a "safe waifu" because the writer likes it.
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I haven't seen a good red vs blue waifu war in three years
Continue, gentlemen, you're all insufferable retards as usual, I like that old-fashioned vibe
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>>151496353
Unit 01
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>asuka

>Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking emotions, usually beginning in early adulthood, including inappropriately seductive behavior and an excessive need for approval. Histrionic people are lively, dramatic, vivacious, enthusiastic, and flirtatious.

>People with HPD have a high need for attention, make loud and inappropriate appearances, exaggerate their behaviors and emotions, and crave stimulation.[3] They may exhibit sexually provocative behavior, express strong emotions with an impressionistic style, and can be easily influenced by others. Associated features include egocentrism, self-indulgence, continuous longing for appreciation, and persistent manipulative behavior to achieve their own needs.
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>>151497270
>implying a soft pink retard can even formulate a coherent critique
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>>151496752
>Infact Rei is a Mary Sue.
I don't think you know what a Mary Sue is
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>>151497541
>Rei
>fucking autism
See, I can be ebin too.
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>>151497541
>>151497584
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>>151497571
Asuka literally calls her Miss Perfect and the Director's favorite.
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>>151473545
>per say
Never change, /a/.
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>>151496261
If so, hooking with everyone is incestuous as they're Lilith's children too.

Lilith is so far in the bloodline that I might as well not care
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>>151497233
>It's called being objective and rational.

Ironic, when a ton of Rei's character arc is acknowledging your emotions.

>>151497269
>Not pointing fingers, but there's some who seem to think that.

In utter, brutal honesty NGE put a huge amount of focus on the Asuka/Shinji relationship, to the detriment of every other character in the show. Anno started off with way too many ideas to fit into a single 26 episode series, but when push came to shove he kept cutting parts of Rei and Kaworu's character arcs rather than jeopardize Asuka's. Kaworu especially, originally he was supposed to have nearly as much screentime as Asuka or Rei instead of being a one episode character.

That's why Asuka is so much different in Rebuild, unlike Rei and Kaworu. Anno managed to get everything out of her character that he wanted in NGE, he needed to do something new with her.
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>>151497605
>tumblr
Leave.
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>>151497549
>Being this sodium ridden over a preference and opinion
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>>151497571
It's an Asuka fan. Look at it: >>151497609

It's retarded. It thinks because Asuka, someone who is known for knowing absolutely nothing, says something, it must be true.
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>>151497671
>muh salt maymay
>>>/twitch.faggot/
Your opinion is shit and you should feel like shit.
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>>151497642
>Ironic, when a ton of Rei's character arc is acknowledging your emotions.

There's no irony there at all.
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>>151497609
In a scornful manner and she isn't even right in her claim
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>eva thread
>it ends up becoming waifuwar nº 32.987.234
never change, /a/
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>>151497722
Jeez anon, you need to get more hobbies.
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>>151497642
>In utter, brutal honesty NGE put a huge amount of focus on the Asuka/Shinji relationship, to the detriment of every other character in the show.

Detriment? What exactly makes you say that? I don't think showcasing their relationship and how troubled it was is a detriment to the series, rather it's the other way around. Then whatever focus they got, it was repetitive, stalling and didn't actually push as many points as it could have.

>Anno started off with way too many ideas to fit into a single 26 episode series, but when push came to shove he kept cutting parts of Rei and Kaworu's character arcs rather than jeopardize Asuka's. Kaworu especially, originally he was supposed to have nearly as much screentime as Asuka or Rei instead of being a one episode character.

You wish, you deluded Kaworufag idiot. Stop pretending that Kaworu was anything more than Anno's small pet side character, who in actually, wasn't anything more than a normal human boy with a pet cat Angel in the original script. Rei, Asuka, Misato etc... got plenty of characterization and didn't suffer, you may criticize their execution but they were fully formed characters that by the way, can very well stand the inclusion of Asuka as a main character. Kaworu having more screentime would ruin the story and kill Evangelion as a serious production, all spinoffs have shown that so far.

As for Rebuild, don't kid yourself: it's different because Anno does what he wants. Anno is a self-proclaimed Asuka fan with a strong partiality towards Kaworu and a hatred for Rei, which reflects what Rebuild has become perfectly: a doujin-esque EVA-world where Anno takes his nerdy fandom out on the characters. Abuse and insults for Rei, varying amounts of glorification for Asuka and Kaworu.
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>>151497764
You need to be dragged into a grave.
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>>151498024
We're all hurtling that way anyway anon, you may as well enjoy the ride and not be so angry all the time
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>>151497976
Holy shit, what a nice pic
saved
I wanna listen to the cure just by looking at it
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>>151498088
I'm sure your normalfag ass can totally empathize. Now scram.
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>>151497642
>That's why Asuka is so much different in Rebuild, unlike Rei and Kaworu. Anno managed to get everything out of her character that he wanted in NGE, he needed to do something new with her.

You actually believe this? It's the other way around, Anno never got anything out of Asuka at all. She was just a foil, not a fully formed character with a good resolution or even hints at being a self-made person by the end. If that wasn't bad enough, Anno had to take a big hit to his otaku pride in seeing his character being defeated every day, all day by Rei Ayanami. He passive-aggressively lashes out not just against Rei, but all of Japan for this, and makes Asuka is mouthpiece in e.g the EVA drama which also showcases how much more popular Rei is and how butthurt Asuka is about it.

Rei and Kaworu are nothing alike their originals, Rei has been hit with a big ugly stick into submission and Kaworu is for some reason a time-looping perfect stranger that can do no wrong even when he fucks up royally. His screentime has expanded to a full third of the series, that's like eight or nine episodes, vs just one.
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>>151498101
Speaking of the cure....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p6zedm0emA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xik-y0xlpZ0

Ah, Westworld, yet another series that's about to be royally screwed over by pointless sequels.
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>>151498195
>She was just a foil, not a fully formed character with a good resolution or even hints at being a self-made person by the end
didn't she come back to life and accepted the World like Shinji? Wasn't that a good resolution?
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>>151497642
>Kaworu especially, originally he was supposed to have nearly as much screentime as Asuka or Rei instead of being a one episode character.
Not at any stage. Even in the shitcanned draft he's introduced and killed in one episode without his character changing over its course.
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>>151498274
If it had ended with Asuka and Misato winning the lottery, or having custom built their own Porsche off screen, would that be a "good resolution"? Just like EoE's ending, it's only "good" insofar they're present at the end and that would please some fans, but good ? They basically ditched the entire character development and more or less admitted that the character was "unfixable" unless the world ended, and then any and all development there may or may not have been was off screen anyway.

So no, it wasn't good.
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>>151497976
>Detriment? What exactly makes you say that?
Rei and Kaworu get less focus, Shinji and Asuka get more. It isn't necessarily to the detriment of the series overall, but Kaworu and especially Rei are more tied into the main plot. That's why the Asuka and Shinji relationship seems repetitive to you, it isn't tied into the main plot so it doesn't need to progress at a similar rate.

>As for Rebuild, don't kid yourself: it's different because Anno does what he wants. Anno is a self-proclaimed Asuka fan with a strong partiality towards Kaworu and a hatred for Rei, which reflects what Rebuild has become perfectly: a doujin-esque EVA-world where Anno takes his nerdy fandom out on the characters.
Rebuild isn't over yet, mind you.

>You wish, you deluded Kaworufag idiot.
>mfw I'm an Asukafag
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>>151498178
>Now scram.
No can do, just took my socks off and got comfy.
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>>151498369
>Rei and Kaworu get less focus, Shinji and Asuka get more.

Stop right there. You're lumping in Kaworu with Rei, as if they were even remotely the same type of character with similar scopes and breadth.

It's not working, see >>151498343

There never was any "oh no Kaworu gets less", if anything there was a "Rei gets less", but guess what? Who fucking cares? NGE is what it is, it's over now, and the time they spent on Asuka is not time I'd want removed post-fact. What the fucki s wrong with you?

Kaworu didn't tie into any main plot for shit, Rei, Gendo, Shinji and Yui did. Kaworu was a one-off episode whose presence is eradicated after episode 24, the one episode he was in. Kaworu did precisely nothing but appear for one episode in NGE, and that was enough. He wasn't a core part of the story, the plot or even much of the lore unless you "go to deep" and start fanwanking.

>Rebuild isn't over yet, mind you.
It's over as far as this issue is concerned.

>But I'm an Asukafag!
An Asuakfag who wishes for less Asuka screentime, and speaks like a Kaworufag? If so, you bet on the wrong horse for yourself, let me tell you that. Regardless of who you like, everything you've written is catastrophically wrong.
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>>151498361
must be nice to just ignore the ending so you can shove your twisted idea onto random anons
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>>151498712
I'm not ignoring anything. It's known as an "open ended" finish because of how little it actually reveals and shows in a concrete manner. It's an ending the author even refuses to provide any official explanation for, which is good on him I suppose.

But the point being? If it's a good or bad ending is entirely up to you, since it's not actually defined. Now in terms of character, where does this put Asuka ? Not in a good place. She never has a solid, finished character because the final stretch of the series kicks her around like an unwanted stepchild no one knows what to do with.
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>>151498195
>She was just a foil, not a fully formed character with a good resolution or even hints at being a self-made person by the end.

Asuka gets more time focused on her character than anyone other than Shinji. She's the only other character to get a real resolution in EoE too.

>>151498509
>An Asuakfag who wishes for less Asuka screentime, and speaks like a Kaworufag?

As an Asukafag, I was very satisfied with what we got in NGE. Anno told the full relationship. Shame that Rei and Kaworu got shafted though, but that's what Rebuild is for.
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>>151498823
>As an Asukafag, I was very satisfied with what we got in NGE. Anno told the full relationship. Shame that Rei and Kaworu got shafted though, but that's what Rebuild is for.

You've got it the other way around, switch Asuka and Rei and you've got what you're looking for.
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>>151498823
>Asuka gets more time focused on her character than anyone other than Shinji. She's the only other character to get a real resolution in EoE too.

But that's categorically false. This is the problem with Asuka fans. Your entire relation with the rest of the fandom and Evangelion itself is based on one huge lie.

1- Misato has more time focused on her character than Asuka, right next to Shinji.
2- Asuka has no real resolution as a character in either NGE or EoE.

In NGE, Asuka is "tanged" and is thus guided along by everyone else, and by the end of her ep.25 session, she never reaches any solution to her problems save for cowering in defeat at the situation. Unlike e.g Shinji or Rei, there's never any point where Asuka thinks or reasons her way to "this is what I'll have to do", or similar. No solution, no resolution, she remains a foil after having been inactive for almost the entire tail end of the series.

The same repeats itself in EoE, where Asuka lies inert, only to be used as a symbol of what may be Asuka fan's sexual and shallow interest in the character - the masturbation scene. Asuka does not move, she merely accepts. Even when she is to fight, she is only there to fight because everyone else has prepared the stage for her. They carried her, cared for her and put her inside the EVA. Then when she could not fight still, even the EVA reaches out to Asuka. Then she dies, and there is no character development. No deeper, meaningful development like with other characters like Shinji or Rei.

While Shinji meets his conclusion as we all know, we here see the movie culminate with Rei's rise to godhood and retribution against Gendo. Asuka remains a passive foil even to the very end, choked by Shinji.

It's not a good character resolution, and only a good resolution if the fan itself sets out to write post-EoE fanfiction.
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pokapoka rei best rei
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>>151499071
it's unbelievable to me how you can say shinji develops and meets his conclusion and then just completely ignore the fact that asuka ends up materialized with shinji (obviously because she came to terms with herself and rejected instrumentality)
top tier delusion
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>>151499661
this
>>151499071
you're a pure retard
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>>151499592
WHO IS THIS PERSON AND WHAT DID SHE DO TO REI
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>>151499592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQw30UYp_9U&ab_channel=TakenakaHanbee
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>>151499760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21mHYWbYZuU&ab_channel=TakenakaHanbee
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>>151499661
>>151499709
You're just butthurt. See, this happens:
>it's unbelievable to me how you can say shinji develops and meets his conclusion

because we actually see Shinji reason through everything. We have his character on screen, on time, showing these changes. But there's no such thing for Asuka.

See how you have to "jump to a conclusion" for Asuka? You could just as well jump to the opposite conclusion, which is quite frankly more realistic and in thread with the themes of Evangelion.

I mean, that's it, Asuka fans. All you have is delusion.
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>Rei
>messed up but gets better
>is a goddess
>admirable

>Asuka
>messed up but keeps getting worse
>is weak
>disgusting
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Asukafags are fucking retarded. Just like their character.
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>>151500126
>>151500258
You look like you really want a reply.
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>>151473507
If you're a toilet-loving nu-male then sure
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>>151500126
>>151500258
samefag
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>>151499592
All toilets are worst
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>>151500346
This is the only face she makes, ever.
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>>151472540
They realizes she actually gets off on being choked because of how she found her mother messing her head up like that, so he bangs her doing breathplay.
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>>151499971
you're honestly just projecting at this point and it's pitiful
it's not jumping to a conclusion if shinji sets the precedent for it. or are you actually still trying to say asuka just pops up on the beach to pacify "le asukafags"?
depending on how you reply this is probably the last (You) you'll get from me
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>>151500375
>he doesn't flush
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>Rei
>a good character
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>>151500378
Can you reddit browsing faggots off yourselves already?
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Hey guys, what is a more sure-fire way to kill oneself: hanging rope or slitting writs?
Asking for a friend.
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>>151500945
getting dematerialized by god seems to have 100% success rate
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>>151477137
Nadia is an alien
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>>151498509
>if anything there was a "Rei gets less"
No ambiguity there, Shinji was to have stayed at NERV specifically for Rei while Gendo went to war with the world, the descent into Dogma was conceived as Gendo raving while Shinji tries to reach Rei and talk her down.

The unused material could still turn out relevant, in a lot of ways Rebuild resembles it and Eva's original Nadia fanfic premise more than the FAR and Seeds of Life cosmology established post-series. We're more setup than ever before for the Return of the Jedi style father and son Eva fight that Anno wanted.
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>>151501735
>Gendo and Shinji duking it out

Well that would be something
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>>151497269
your comparing Phantom Menace with Q, watch Phantom Menace.
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>>151502526
Mari is Not JarJar, JarJar had a purpose.

JarJar>Mari

Mari is Darth Maul, interesting-Looking Character design, No characterization, Ultimately irrelevant to the story.
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>>151502669
Be nice to Mari, anon. She's soft and pure. Secretive and skilled. Cute and Asuka's lover.
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>>151502749
>and Asuka's lover.
If only, if only.
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>>151502789
>Anon doesn't know
>>151489330
>>151489521
>>151489646
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Years and years of:
>continuing shitposting
>fanwaking
>bad memes

This anime was really a mistake, sometimes I wish I could erase this anime from existence, whathever it did spawn, is not worth it.
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>>151502890
Just to say, I was the OP for that thread a month ago, I know.
http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-4904.html

If they do that in the last film, I'll be amazed.
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>>151502984
>whathever it did spawn, is not worth it.
Writers having more control with productions.

such a horrible path.
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>>151503004
It was a pretty great thread anon, thanks.
Do you soft pink?
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>>151503060
>Do you soft pink?
Do You Party?
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>>151503140
I do, friendly anon
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>>151500126
>Watching Eva for morally upright characters
You're supposed to feel EMPATHY for them you dumb motherfucker. Rei is supposed to be creepy because she's ready to throw her life away and is actually a giant ayylmao; you shouldn't be TITILATED by it because you want your girlfriend to be a loyal supersoldier.

It's been twenty fucking years and you fuckers still don't understand bitching about who's cooler and more practical as a cocksleeve is PRECISELY what the show is going against.
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>>151489646
Could you even fit two people on that skinny ass top bunk?
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>>151503391
I fine Rei relatable because of her desire to fit in and connect with others while having diffuclty to do so because of her condition

Also Hayashibara's voice is earsex
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>>151503556
These two skinny cuties can definitely comfortably share it.
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>>151475844
>Whenever I say something I relly mean or really want, it kills the thread and gets me all the wrong kinds of attention.
Perhaps there could be less threads, and perhaps people could learn to listen when opinions are voice and put some part of themselves at stake on the stuff they waste most of their life on.
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>>151473557
>married with children

Que mierda conchetumadre, kek.
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Asuka luuvs shinji
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>>151504405
>>151504279
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Not going to lie, former SEELE member here, and it's hilarious watching Shinji crash and burn, but in all seriousness, we can't let him get in the robot.
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>>151504502
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>>151503391
>interpreting the show how you want is wrong, everyone should think like me let's all be a bunch of faggy robots
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>>151504405
>>151504502
>>151504610
That's not soft pink. That's not soft at all.
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>>151504651
>>
>rei fags once again dodging around the real reason they like Rei is that they want a girl who has no personality of their own so they can project onto her
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>>151504651
Soryu > Shikinami
>>151504610
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>>151504695
Nooooo, Rei is supposed to be Mari.

>>151504746
Agreed, but Asuka/Mari > Asuka/Shinji
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>>151504788
Not really since Shinji and Asuka need each other. Mari is a terrible character. Shinji/Asuka feels more real. I also don't like seeing Asuka turn into a shitty yuri character.
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>>151504875
Asuka and Mari have been together for 14 years. They've been through far more than Shinji and Asuka.
Far more cute too.
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>>151504930
Except they haven't, she isn't Soryu.
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>>151504990
Shiki and Mari have canonically been together 14 years. Maybe they weren't a thing the entire time, but it's still far longer than Shinji and Sohryu.
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>>151505080
Except Shinji Ikari and Asuka Langley Soryu have been living together longer than Shikinami. Because Mari has never met Soryu. Case dismissed.
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>>151504788
>but Asuka/Mari > Asuka/Shinji
WRONG

Asuka/Rei > Asuka/Mari > Asuka/Shinji
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>>151505229
Anon I think you've got your canons, timelines and continuities wrong.

>>151505260
>>151505289
>Asuka/Mari > Asuka/Rei > Asuka/Shinji
VERY cute pictures anon. Have a nice day/night.
Goodnight!
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My God, I'm literally going to throw up with all this yuri shit
Im okay with People Spamming Kawoshin but this is just beyond disgusting
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>>151505316
Nah, you do. Shikinami is not the same fucking character.
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>>151505316
Do You Party?
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>>151505326
>Kawoshin
Good shit though. And it gets even better if you flip it. Char would be into it.

>>151505368
He clearly knows that. Here>>151505080 anon was talking about in their own timelines. Yurishit-kun knows his Asuka
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>>151505326
Welcome to the contemporary Eva fanbase. Full of shipfaggotry and nonotaku poserly normalfags.
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>>151505368
>being this retarded
OUT

>>151505434
Title?

>>151505442
Nice thumbnail
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>>151505487
>does not have the desire for constant attention
>has no interest in Shinji
>does not have the rivalry with the other childs
>lacks the "layers" of Asuka Langley Soryu

Its a fucking different character, end of story. Stop acting like it is.
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>>151505582
>has no interest in Shinji
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>>151505582
>implying anyone said Soryu was Shiki
Get the shrapnel out of your brain, retard
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>>151505487
Title?
Different anon, just to say the doujin is not just between Asuka and Rei,
but unfortunately a threesome including Shinji.

how sad

Confusion AR
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/857747/0a6aa37b72/
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>>151505716
>spoonfeeding
Fuck off.
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>>151505628
Well she doesn't, she barely interacts with Shinji in 2.22 and she wants to kill him in 3.33.
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>>151478411
That's pretty hot to me anon, even if you were being sarcastic.
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>>151487578
is his shirt a dick
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Speaking of shipping and stuff, is there any Asuka and Shinji non lewd doujins?
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>>151472540
separate ways or shinji killed her
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>>151472540
They fug.
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>>151506029
is there any Asuka and Shinji non lewd doujins?

The Epilogue of Evangelion(700 pages)
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/359210/abd4f7fbcc/

Girlhood(142 pages)
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/68275/7227d91fd5/
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>>151506029
>>151506264

THE PARADISE LOST episode 0:7
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/23081/64505f9ce7/

Be kind to me, don't tease me
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/32300/29745b48ae/

She Plays Fortissimo
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/38919/17e68a894a/

Tenohirano Adolescence
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/72463/385d416b19/
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>>151505763
>spoonfeeding
how?
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>>151506419
Lurk for two years before posting.
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>>151506375
Tenohirano Adolescence
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>>151506264
I've read Epilogue, its pretty good. I wish there was some kind of infodump or wiki of differnet EVA doujins.

Thanks desu.
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>>151506883
>wiki of differnet EVA doujins

http://g.e-hentai.org/?f_doujinshi=0&f_manga=0&f_artistcg=0&f_gamecg=0&f_western=0&f_non-h=0&f_imageset=0&f_cosplay=0&f_asianporn=0&f_misc=0&f_search=evangelion&f_apply=Apply+Filter

this is probably the best site to so so, it does not have all, but alot of different doujin.
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>>151503391
Such delicious butthurt Asukafag rage. Rei is just better.
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>>151504641
>interpreting
You had a whole goddamn movie spell it out for you. Death of the Author doesn't mean you're allowed to outright ignore what the show is saying for your interpretation, you know.
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>>151508380
fag
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>>151508474
Momma's boy.
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>>151508534
dumb dumb duumkopf
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>>151472540
They screw like rabbits other of course
They wanted this the whole series, time to break the tension, you know
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>>151508547
Deluded pervert.
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>>151508595
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