Why are anime-lovers freaks?

>>151385112
>giving a shit about normalfags

Just enjoy what you want, all there is to it. If people want to look at anime and fans in a biased, narrow-minded manner that's their own business.

I am a fetish-filled autist so they're pretty spot on.

>>151385112
Because they don't understand it. Why is some grown man watching little girls eat food and talk about desserts? It doesn't line up with the image of what a 20 or 30 something year old man would usually watch, even for anime. Its the same thing with video games.

>>151385194
This

>>151385112
>Why do they only see us as fetish-filled autists because we happen to enjoy Japanese cartoon stories?
What they don't realize is that everyone is a fetish fueled autist. Some people show it, some people don't. If anything anime/manga fans show it more often than many other groups.

Why do you make stupid gay threads? Because you're an autistic fucking loser that likes dick.

People don't like you because you are shit, not because you like anime(which they shouldn't even know about, normalfag)

Anime fans are fucking awful. Especially on websites that aren't 4chan.

>>151386106
Like you when you aren't on 4chan.

>>151385112
Go to Exhentai to find out. Anime fans are either naive weeaboos or degenerate autists.

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>>151385112

It's not anime that's taboo, it's what kind of anime people are into. Shounen series are widely known and acceptable (pic related is a famous athlete watching naruto before a game).

It's a bit funny how battle shounens are seen as pure shit here, while there is thread after thread with the most embarrassing borderline porn. The kind of shit you would never want your family or coworkers to know you watch.

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>>151386106

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvozYm3S-kw

You should see anime fans in public.

>>151386397
Battle shounen carries itself on action mostly, with moments of fanservice. Stuff that's less compelling to a majority of people requires more fanservice to keep it alive long enough to deliver its message to those actually interested in it.

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>>151386505

>tfw this was in the city I live in

fuck

>>151385112
>tell me 4chan
>blog thread about 3dpd
Fuck off back to /r/anime, retard.

Mods aren't deleting shit today.

Its fine I understand.

>>151386505
>implying waifufags aren't even more embarrassing

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This type of cancer

>>151385112
Anybody who claims they don't have any fetishes and isn't asexual is full of shit. Humans are immensely sexual animals by nature, but religion has cast sexuality in a negative light, painting it as something that's regrettable if it weren't necessary to reproduce, would be outright banned.

When those who have been raised into this mindset see others who don't conform to what they've been taught, their inner world starts to crumble and they panic. They then cast the blame on the non-conformists because they can't accept that they're living on lies.

And thus, anybody who's even slightly in touch with their own sexuality and doesn't feel a need to hide it gets labeled a deviant.

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>>151386835
Fucking this.

>ironic weebs
>western anime fandom in general

Make it stop please.

>>151386603

Fanservice is an ingredient you shouldn't add to much in. It's like frosting, you add just enough to enhance what's already there. What I don't understand is entire series being made completely out of fanservice built on no foundation. Shit like Strike the Blood or Myriad Colors Phantom World.

And the best series are the ones that don't rely on fanservice at all, like FMA

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>>151386918
I hate that shit so much. People really are the worst.

>>151386945
The term alone implies that anime fans are horny manchildren. No wonder it came from otaku culture.

>>151386835

Meh, that just looks like something a 14 year old made. Look at all that entry level anime, and Miku for some reason. None of those shows are bad or embarrassing though.

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>>151386945
>the best series
>FMA

>FMA
>no fan service

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>>151387031

Horny in general, men aren't the only ones. If you look at anime for girls, it's the other end of the spectrum, but basically the same shit (yaoi, boys love, etc). They take parts of men they find attractive (large hands, height, etc) and make grotesque things out of it, straight out of Cronenberg's nightmares.

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>>151387033
>None of those shows are bad

>>151385112
Who is this fluid druid

>>151387243
Sauce is in the image.

>>151387193
True, it's honestly rather disgusting and incredibly limiting. I've been watching a lot of live action films recently and I wish anime was more like them.

>>151385112
The main exposure they get to anime fans are teenage fans who act like complete idiots about it.

aka Narutards for the most part

anime is the truth and everything else is shit

>>151385112

Cause you act like retarded militant shit heads who seem paranoid as all shit about mainstream society and bait and talk shit all day on the internet. Not a good way to make animes but a fantastic way to earn a bad reputation as a fanbase.

>>151387363

When you're free to write about anything, it's funny how most shows/manga gravitate around sex. What happened to just going on awesome adventures with your friends? What happened to well written plots full of betrayal and revenge? What happened to real horror with fucked-up looking monsters and terrifying villains?

It's all just little girls going to high school now, and most of this board wouldn't have it any other way.

>>151387363
It's slowly seeping into Western media, though. Hannibal was pure yaoibait.

>>151387605
I wish modern anime characters were older. Or at least looked older.

>>151386505
>>151386835
>>151386918
This is pretty much the only correct answer

>>151387198

All of those shows have millions of fans, and make tens of millions of dollars worldwide across languages and cultures. But it's not a show about 12 year old girls playing trombone, so I guess it's not up to /a/'s discerning tastes

>>151387363
>I've been watching a lot of live action films recently and I wish anime was more like them
That is the stupidest thing I've read all Christmas. If you want something like live action just make fucking live action.

>>151387922
>>>/gaia/

>>151387742

Japanese pop culture revolves around youth worship. If you're over 23, you're an old cougar and should be embarrassed you haven't been married yet.

>>151387946
By "more like live action" I meant more focused on the story and characters. Anime was like that in the past. The characters weren't all cute boys and cute girls.

Because you guys only watch cheap chinese cartoons so you can fap to the doujins. You ARE freaks and perverts.

>>151388035
I know, but again, aren't people tired with the same boring designs? Guts and Griffith in Berserk were also teenagers but they looked older. GitS's appeal comes largely from its art and design. I can't stand these pretty boys and girls in modern anime.

>>151388225
>Anime was like that in the past
only the few you were aware of because of the lack of internet or lack of care.
when we get series like that now people still bitch because it wasnt made in the 90s and find every reason to hate them.
Also reminder that the 80s had plenty of creepy otaku pandering shows with grade school girls panty shots fest and sexual inuendoes.

>>151386505
>That guy that fades out of existence

Rest in peace, bro.

This has to be bait. Why would a normalfag be here complaining about anime not being normalfag-friendly enough on Christmas?

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>>151388343

Good new series are coming out, but mostly in manga because there's very little risk in publishing a black&white comic on newsprint. Anime is more and more expensive everyday, and a production house will only go for a safe bet.

Something like goblin slayer (pic related) will never be adapted into anime, but the next Light Novel about a high school kid with skill-collecting powers being transported into fantasy-land will.

>>151388680
I don't even fucking know anymore about this board.

>>151388680

>normalfag

What's wrong with not being a loser?

>>151389239
You need to go back.

>>151389292

Isn't there a show about little girls you should be watching right now?

>>151389363
Isn't there a disgusting 3DPD whore you need to go please while watching the latest fairy tail episode?

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>>151389363

>>151387363
>I've been watching a lot of live action films recently and I wish anime was more like them.
NO.

Look at hollywood. Token minority roles, recycled scripts, shitty sequeles. FUCKING EMOJI MOVIE.

Just no.

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>>151387742
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny

>>151387363
>I want anime to be more mainstream in west
>I want the west to poison anime

How are people like you even here?

>>151389471

Modern anime is the same, in its own way. They've got the same issues: expensive production leading to safe bets every time.

So instead of an emoji movie, you have isekai, battle-schools, and slice of life. The one time something different like Attack on Titan comes out, they run it to the ground within 2 years.

>>151389567

Anime was started by Japanese ripping off disney and french comics. What we have now is the result of years of stagnation.

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>>151389635
Those are TV shows though. Emoji thing is a fucking movie.

If you look at western TV shows you get a shitton of procedurals. I would argue that isekai offers more plot diversity than procedurals.

Also you're forgetting other overarching genres like mecha or magical girl shows.

And recall that Fate comes from an eroge. That would be almost unthinkable in the west. Turning a porn game into an action series with fairly unique plot hook.

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>>151385112
Why is the giant girl the best?

>>151389789
This guy is high as fuck. LOL

Why is it okay for normalfags to appropriate other subcultures like American comics or this one?

>>151390748
the dumb giant that does not know what it tramples on

>>151385112

We could have had an Ikkitousen thread, but instead you had to make a pointless thread like this.

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>>151386835
>people devaluing the word otaku
>or rather, changing its' meaning
Otaku has always been a pejorative word - "being into something so much that it has negative effects on you, as a person", or "having way too much useless knowledge about certain things instead of having knowledge about what really matters". Pretty similar to "nerd", actually. It was always an insulting word, but now it's something people "wear", akin to a fashion accessory.

>>151386397
is not even that, the important thing is not to act like a socially retarded autist that only can talk about anime and always tries to shove their own tastes down over everyone else throat

I like silly shoujo/josei romance and other cute shit I don't hide my powerlevel but I don't flaunt it if I'm not asked about it.

>>151385112
Maybe because weebs they met at cons are insufferable faggots.

>>151385112

Cause you wear the label like a badge of honor and act like horrible horrible people. Don't relish the stereotype abs buy into this whole hurr normalfag and give them grief if you don't want them to think of you as a bunch of degenerate freaks

>>151389471

Sony makes terrible movies, Sony makes terrible anime, what's the fucking difference really at the end of the day. The problem with anime is twofold today really, production committees that are only interested in targeting big spending obsess fan demographics in Japan and making fast easy money off them and a shitty complacent fanbase that is too busy shitposting and not having standars to really matter anymore.

>>151389239

The show normalfag thing otaku started to delude themselves into thinking they're special instead of idiots being exploited by a trash industry that doesn't actually care about them at all if you read between the lones is legitimately one of the saddest trends I've ever seen. Just so self-deluding and so much projecting on so many levels. Granted addiction does that to people

>>151388972

I don't know I just accept that anime and it's fanbase are thoroughly fucked now and there's no going back at this point.

>>151389239
most normalfags are actually secretly losers

What's the classification between us, anime fans on imageboards between anime fans on other (normie) places like Reddit and Tumblr

I noticed some similarities and differences and been studying the phenomenon.

What I thought up as a possible answer is that anime fans here and on 2chan are basically otakus, terrible anti social people who obsesses over anime autistically and that the normie anime fans are weeaboo short and simple, they like the things we like, know some of the things we know and do something of the thing that we. They're like us but different, could it be that the real life and the non anonymous setting and account could be a contributing factor to this inherent difference.

I feel that a real life setting and accounts are a factor of this as for example, People ERP all the time on here, when people here do, some people join in, we have threads for all those things, but when someone on Tumblr or Reddit or Real Life does it, it's retarded and cringy, I understand that real life is different from the online, but how about tumblr, I'd it their devotion or we don't take ERP seriously as them that we see it differently

Another example is when questioned about their love of anime, an chan user might deny it completely or say something such as
>im a weeaboo so what
or even embrace
>yeah I'm a fucking weeb, seen hundreds of shows, Haruhi is the best

But normie? Fans might say
>OMG I love Anime :3 anime is so amazing

I would like to find a name to describe these two subclasses from the general
>Otaku
>Weeaboo
>Ironic Weeaboo

>>151387605

Yeah the way /a/ just launches itself full throttle into a very narrow stereotyped definition of an anime fan and anyone else are "normalfags" is fucked. Anime as a thing will be dead outside of Asia within generation as nobody is going to want to get involved with this shit that you can barely call television with a fanbase that you can barely call one and is more concerned with its word nonsensical politics and fighting other people than anything else. Like I don't know it's just not a fanbase at this point because you need to truly value something and it have actual meaning to you to call yourself a fan of something IMO and I don't see that with anine anymore and haven't in years really. The whole full throttle shitposting thing is admittedly pretty new to me but the lack of standards IMO is what really sets anime apparent from almost any other supposed fandom.

>>151395348
>normie

Stopped reading right there.

>>151395348

There is no difference, the whole normalfag thing is just crap /a/ made up to streamline it's shitposting. I mean the board doesn't even have good image discussion thread anymore, it's all about inventing bogeyman to fight lightly much like /v/ and it's console wars crap that is 90% of its content

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>>151387141
Doesn't have =/= doesn't rely on

kuso thread

>>151387922
Damn I didn't know Twilight was considered good.

>>151385112
generally anime is shit

anyone with slight of intelligence knows this

someone with greater intelligence wont let himself be fooled by anyone

and also you and many others, who are mainly found here make their own minds up about what others think of you, or how they see you

some of them might even show disgust towards you, and thus you make the assumption that everyone you see similiar to those inviduals see you the same way. in reality its you who will feel ill everytime you see person who behaves or looks sertain way, making YOU(this is important to understand, it doesnt matter what others do, what matters how you feel yourself, because ultimately its you who is fooling yourself) yourself to make stuff up and believe things that do not align with the real world

>>151395348

>normie Fans might say
>OMG I love Anime :3 anime is so amazing

You have a g point
So isnt that just saying ppl on irl sites are the ones that make anime fans look like degenerate fucks?

>when questioned about their love of anime, an chan user might deny it completely or say something such as
>im a weeaboo so what
>or even embrace
>yeah I'm a fucking weeb, seen hundreds of shows, Haruhi is the best

So youre saying someone who really embraces anime will already assume ppl to think its a shit culture

Do you really want to know?
It's because it's a cartoon. Now I know there will be some people who rage at me for saying that, but swallow my words and don't rage at me. People often watched cartoons when they were younger, thus when they grow up they dismiss it as something immature, see it as something to grow up from. They link this notion to everything animated and with the exception of comedies, automatically jump to conclusions and simply disregard it. Even when they do decide to see it they become overtly nitpicky as a way to save face and pretend to be grown.
In my opinion people like this are immature as they dismiss entire mediums of storytelling just because it was made on paper instead of filmed by a camera with real people.

>>151396175
This is all bullshit
I actually interact with normalfags, and they consider me a really smart guy who just happens to be really weird
And I guess I am
Many people on this on 4chan talk about hiding your power level, I don't, I flaunt my power level, and nobody cares, if anything they ask me for recommendations

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>>151386861
It's not even about sex. It's about repressed people being more succeptible to control. If someone already feels shame, for not doing anything, they are more likely to listen to an authority figure. When your external image (the mask you present to others) feels your core self might be a perverted piece of shit, it is easier to turn to a morality system or group opinion to tell you what's normal.

>>151387605
t. Finn

>>151385112
>why does anyone and everyone who doesn't enjoy anime/manga the way we do believe that we are some sort of other species?
See >>151385194.

If you care about what normalfags think you're interacting with people too much.

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>>151396175
>someone with greater intelligence wont let himself be fooled by anyone
And yet, here you are.

>>151385112
>Why do they only see us as fetish-filled autists
Uh, because almost all of us are?

>>151385112
Unfortunately there are lots of people who care about and in fact make fun of people for enjoying things that don't hurt others. Kind of like how you assholes treat people like shit for a variety of anime related reasons, like if you see a screenshot of someone streaming or someone asks for a source. Really the way people here try to block others from becoming part of their secret club is no different. I'd say 95% of humans behave in this despicable way in general so it's probably pointless to even discuss it.

>>151387363
Ironic shitposting is just shitposting.

>>151387605
Have you tried more than five anime in the last year, let alone manga? "Girls going to high school" sums up a tiny portion of it.

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Because a huge majority of people who are interested in anime act like fucking retards (at least outside /a/) and try to bring the topic on unrelated things, and that's also pretty much the reason why I never actively show interest in Anime unless its something like AnimeCon.

Also it didn't help when Frank released that video, seriously, say just bringing up the topic Anime itself and some random aspie will shout "Weeaboo.".

>>151387605
Even that animators expo thing was nothing but young anime girls in various state of undress
The industry is way too obsessed with underage girls

>>151385212
>I am a fetish-filled autist so they're pretty spot on.
This, to be honest.

>>151395348
What about us that don't fit into any of the categories? I mean don't get me wrong, I'm a fetish filled autist, but I like anime/manga because I like animation and drawn stories in general not out of a particular love for japan or obsession with anime/manga itself. Japan just happens to have one of the most developed and nuanced industries out of any country I can think of and incubates talent much better because of that industry.

>>151399980
What do you mean "what about us"? He's making generalizations, there's no "but what about us."

>>151399875
He's retarded, but his point isn't entirely wrong, the Japs in general are risk averse, in any given year you'll find the vast majority of anime/manga following color by the lines plots and scenarios with little "soul" that sets them apart from the other cash grabs. Excepting rare times when sheer popularity can drive something into existence, industry bigwigs gambling big on some unknown talent, or even an established industry figure doing something gutsy now that they have a following, you rarely see much that isn't just revolving around the same tired bullshit. Sex being a part of aforementioned bullshit, because if anything has always held true in marketing it's "sex sells"

please help report these threads
dont let /a/ turn into /v/

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>>151400047
I kind of fucked up reading his post. So, yeah sorry I'm an illiterate fucktard, my bad.

>>151400052
I'm not going to deny that a huge part of the industry is cliche stuff (just like literally any industry), but if you're seriously suggesting that series not revolving around tired bullshit are rare, particularly for manga, then you seriously have a low powerlevel. Off the top of my head, there are currently ongoing series about astronauts, shogi players, overclocking, radio hosts, 16th-century tea ceremonies, alternate-history matriarchal feudal Japan, nip communist extremists, French executioners, Mongol princes, Turkish generals, Kazakh wives, nigger guitar players, desert fantasy, Irish fantasy, space emperors, alien shamans, vampiric goldfish-men, a T-Rex investigating black-magic superheroes, and gem-people fighting buddhist-statue-shit from the moon.

>>151400060
/a/ is already basically /v/ circa 2013, the only real difference is the amount of posts in a day and the fact that some of the older mods have this as their homeboard and babysit the board keeping the worst of the retards in check.

>>151385951
This to be honest

OP is probably fat as fuck which is why nobody likes him

>>151385112
Because most of the time we ARE freaks. I doubt anyone on /a/ has a normal social life.

>>151385112
Obsessive weebs give decent fans a bad image.

>>151400117
That's still a small fraction of the amount of manga being published in both periodicals, online, and in tankobons. I mean seriously how many are going at a time, a thousand at the very least?

Furthermore you ignore the fact that just saying the subject matter is different, doesn't make it qualitatively so. So what if there's a manga about shogi players, how is it different than the mahjong manga, or the Go manga, or the extreme Chinese checkers manga? How is a manga about drifting trains functionally different than drifting cars? How is a manga about statue idols different than a manga about regular idols? The school comedy about a T-rex girl different than a school drama about a regular girl?

Not that I'm dismissing all the examples, but come on anon, just summing it down to a few words about how it differs, doesn't prove that it isn't the same in the ways that matter.

>>151399925
Frank practically killed any chance for some animefans to reveal their interests and doomed some to bullying. It's sad too as in the video he fucking differentiates between an animefan and a weeb and yet people ignored that infodump.
People call us retarded.

>>151399942
That's a good thing
Cute girls are cute, and there's nothing with liking cute girls

>>151400296
Yes, there are thousands and thousands ongoing, and I doubt either you or I has read even a twentieth of that so we can't really talk about percentage, but my point is that there are plenty of these unusual series coming out in any raw sense, and it's not at all hard to find enough of them to keep yourself occupied.

> Furthermore you ignore the fact that just saying the subject matter is different, doesn't make it qualitatively so.
You aren't wrong, but I'm trying to be economical here - do you want me to go over dozens of manga in detail, or what? If you'll take my word for it, I'll assure you that none of the things I just named are super-generic-but-with-a-gimmick-to-hide-behind shows like you seem to be suspecting. If you won't take my word for it, then I mean, feel free to compare 3-gatsu to Hikaru no Go or Akagi or whatever other board/parlor-game manga to see how they differ for yourself.

>>151400403
>shows
Manga, rather.

>>151400195
I have a bunch of friends, I play d&d twice a week, and I usually play vidya with my friends
Just because we're not normalfags doesn't mean we can't befriend people that we like

>>151400052
read more manga faggot

>>151400296
>this list of examples is only a tiny fraction of all manga ongoing
What a silly objection.

>>151385112
Shit thread. Where is Mod?

>>151400403
>I'll assure you that none of the things I just named are super-generic-but-with-a-gimmick-to-hide-behind shows like you seem to be suspecting.
Not that guy but at least one of the examples, Keyman, turned out to be way less unique than you'd think considering the premise and designs. Just looking at the covers gives a more accurate impression of the series than the premise.

It's not generic, but it definitely has generic elements next to the interesting ones, and you can imagine that a lot of series are like that: interesting, unique ideas that nonetheless still fail to be fully unique in execution.

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>>151400403
>we haven't read it all so we can't know how much good or bad is
Come on anon, that's why we have rules of thumb and statistics to draw inferences from.

>there are plenty of these unusual series coming out in any raw sense,
I wasn't actually complaining about lack of raw unusualness, but a lack of quality stuff in general on top a generally "color by numbers" design strategy that mostly produces bland crap. There can be good stuff done with cliched settings and ideas, and there can be boring stuff done with "unusual" settings and ideas either way. I mean just an example, take that roman bathhouse manga, sure it was unusual but simply picking an unusual subject does not a quality publication make, same with copying popular elements from a popular manga and making some half assed mix and match derivative.

>- do you want me to go over dozens of manga in detail, or what
Not really, I was mostly playing doubles advocate. My original point, albeit poorly expressed was agreeing with that other anon that a lot of stories (in anime, I think we were talking anime) revolved around constantly reusing the same sorts of themes and draws -such as sex appeal- to sell. I wasn't really trying to argue in in raw numbers, but in generalities, and as such I was just pointing out that to some degree I could understand his frustration with the industry for that reason.

>>151386861
But even non-religious people who were born in non-religious homes are like that too. What's the explanation now?

>>151386945
Strike the Blood and Phantom World are not 100% fanservice though (I wish it was). You are in reality talking about DxD and Shinmai maou no testament right?

>>151400766
Religion creates a cultural halo that extends far beyond the literal scripture and the belief in said religion.

>>151400592
It's not some sort of super unique never-seen-before story, I'll agree, but it's certainly not the color-by-the-line cash grabs or "idol show BUT WITH STATUES"-type things that he's talking about.

>>151400731
>Come on anon, that's why we have rules of thumb and statistics to draw inferences from.
And statistics says you should judge the number of unusual series you know as a proportion of series you know, not of all the series in the industry. Thank you for agreeing with me.

Anyway, in generalities I do agree, but like I said, that's not unique to anime/manga. This notion that everything is the same and that works that aren't corporate-engineered rehashes are some endangered breed is just not true.

>doubles advocate
It's a doggy-dog world, anon.

>>151400829
>It's not some sort of super unique never-seen-before story, I'll agree, but it's certainly not the color-by-the-line cash grabs or "idol show BUT WITH STATUES"-type things that he's talking about.
Well, that I'll agree with. It's certaintly more of a genuine attempt to create something new and interesting, it's just that it also has elements that stick out like a sore thumb. Why are there generic-looking anime girls next to a dinosaur detective and all those keymen? I've nothing against either element on their own, but placing them beside each other feels like a mistake.

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>>151400824
This. Religion creates a cultural background. It is the basis for a lot of written and unwritten rules we take for granted.
You could even say an atheist is more serious about these things than a believer. He or she accepts the rules at face value, without their moral or supernatural justification.

All I know is that I want to watch great guatdians now

>>151400829
>>And statistics says you should judge the number of unusual series you know as a proportion of series you know
>Drawing statistical data from a single individual and assuming it is to be valid
You what now?

>but like I said, that's not unique to anime/manga
I don't disagree and never have, however this is the animu/mango forum so we may as well limit our discussion to such. Besides there are specific types of rehashing that are more or less exclusive to these types of media we may as well discuss in a general, but not overly general manner. For instance what the original retard was complaining about with highschool kids and highschool girls.

>This notion that everything is the same and that works that aren't corporate-engineered rehashes are some endangered breed is just not true.
Yeah well, I disagree with you about that.

>It's a doggy-dog world, anon.
Such sentiments are a diamond dozen.

Because anime is fucking weird. Really, if you think about it apart from the few normie accepted film studios and television series, anime is filled with unusual shit. Also, for most dumb people anime is not normal enough and for intelligent people anime is far lower a form of art than others. Because of this and the fact that most of this shit is made for fucking teenagers, anime has fallen into an awkward position which is only appealing to children and strange people.

>>151400994
>>>Drawing statistical data from a single individual and assuming it is to be valid
Exactly how far do you want to go with this? To begin with, the very notion of examples pretty much fails statistical rigor, it so this is a little autistic. Either way, applying statistical rigor or not, comparing a non-exhaustive list of examples one guy thought up on the spot to the number of all manga currently in publication is clearly silly.

>Yeah well, I disagree with you about that.
And I've given examples to support my point, while all you have is "I don't trust your examples" and an insistence on statistical validity, as though anyone were going to take an SRS of ongoing manga and give you a confidence interval.

>>151400957
I can't say the girls really bothered me, honestly. Hot women in a gritty action series seems pretty expected, it's not like they've all got Keionface or anything.

>>151401133
Statistics itself is nothing but autistic people's attempt to explain and understand human interaction in their own terms.

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>>151401133
>comparing a non-exhaustive list of examples one guy thought up on the spot to the number of all manga currently in publication is clearly silly.
Are you then claiming in good faith that the number of unique or manga that break the mould is more than a small fraction of the total number of all manga? Because I find it hard to believe you would be willing to claim that in good faith.

>while all you have is "I don't trust your examples"
Actually I said that your examples were not detailed enough to be used as arguments, and that I could see them either way without more info.

Besides my argument was more based on generalized axioms and generalizations which would lead one to believe that "unusual" manga are outliers. For instance the very fact that you termed them unusual shows that you, and I, both think of these as being non-normal. We also agreed on how money making industries generally work, which is to say in a way that quashes creativity and risk to prioritize profit. Even just these two points we've agreed on would seem to indicate the relative likelihood of the truthfulness of my supposition.

> as though anyone were going to take an SRS of ongoing manga and give you a confidence interval.
The important part is that we could if we really needed to, autism finds a way.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

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Anime was made by the Japanese to speed-fast the degradation of society. Just embrace it, being a degenerate race is an inevitability.

Fuck is going on in this thread? It's Christmas for fucks sake don't you normalfags have families to be with?

>>151401337
> Besides my argument was more based on generalized axioms and generalizations which would lead one to believe that "unusual" manga are outliers. For instance the very fact that you termed them unusual shows that you, and I, both think of these as being non-normal. We
>Are you then claiming in good faith that the number of unique or manga that break the mould is more than a small fraction of the total number of all manga? Because I find it hard to believe you would be willing to claim that in good faith.
There's small and there's small. I've already agreed that they're outliers, but the "small" fraction I'd expect them to make up is still far larger than the "small" fraction of the 20 examples I gave as a proportion of however many ongoings there are. And not to push semantics too much, but there is a pretty large space between unique/mold-breaking and paint-by-the-numbers.

Frankly, we're just at semantics at this point anyway, and I think we might just have to agree to disagree. If you want more detailed examples, though, here's some of the series I was referring to, you can make of that what you will or investigate on your own if you care enough.
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=24720
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=6741
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=13885
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=97661
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=92248
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=4982
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=82304
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=62896
Or hell, just look at the lineups of magazines like Afternoon, Morning, Comic Beam, Harta, etc., and see the range of stuff they have there. Yes, even then you're not getting a major portion of the industry, but at some point when you've got numerous whole magazines full of fairly creative stuff, the fact that they're technically outliers becomes kind of trivial.

Regardless, I'm going to bed.

Lets just agree that manga sucks and we are only here for the girls

>>151401940
>but the "small" fraction I'd expect them to make up is still far larger than the "small" fraction of the 20 examples I gave as a proportion of however many ongoing there are.
I wasn't attempting to argue that the examples were the exact proportion, I was at the time only trying to point out that even though one could say "well here are some examples" in the end it isn't really a convincing argument against the general trend given how many manga are being published at any one time.

>Semantics
Nah, it's fine, those terms are all pretty much poorly defined by me, I was more using phrases by feeling rather than with a definitive meaning in mind.

>If you want more detailed examples, though, here's some of the series I was referring to, you can make of that what you will or investigate on your own if you care enough.
>just look at the lineups of magazines like Afternoon, Morning, Comic Beam, Harta, etc., and see the range of stuff they have there.
Gotcha sucker, I just tricked you into giving me recommendations on /a/, truly this elaborate ruse has paid off! Seriously though thanks, I'll have a look at them, at some later date. Can't say I will likely look into them too far though, I have absurdly specific tastes and rarely find anything that sounds good to me, hence my whole whining about how small the pool of unique stuff is given my even smaller pool of selections

>Regardless, I'm going to bed.
Goodnight, faggot <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFQQALduhzA
>16 million views
This is the reason why people hate anime fans

>>151402295
Right.

>>151385112
Because most normal anime fans hide the fact that they enjoy anime.

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>>151400195

I'm almost certain most of /a/ consists of normalfags (who haven't even watched/read 100 series) and crossboarders. It's nothing like old /a/, where a thread like this would have been imagespammed, saged repeatedly, and deleted in less than an hour.

>>151385194
fpbp

>>151385112
because nobody would like to bein the same species as you, I really feel sorry for your family

>>151385112
Who? I've spoken to people and they don't really care, and as for the others that do watch anime it's usually the mainstream shows like dbz, sao or aot.

You're thinking too much about it, stop being insecure

>>151405593
>I'm almost certain most of /a/ consists of normalfags (who haven't even watched/read 100 series) and crossboarders.
Man shit really hasn't changed at all since 06.

>nothing like old /a/
/a/ had different periods over the year, I'm not even sure what you mean by "old". Like pre Code Geass /a/ or like original founding /a/? Because originally /a/ was a fucking cesspool at it's founding. The board elitism came along a bit later.

>>151405593
Maybe the change is good, we had a completely warped and illusory idea of what normalfags are, similar to how r9k sees women but in a different way.
Imagine our initial surprise when we discovered who they really were, and why.

>>151385112
>Why do they only see us as fetish-filled autists because we happen to enjoy Japanese cartoon stories?

Because most of their experience with the fandom is from the really embarrassing people. A lot of people have watched anime and still do, but you wouldn't know it unless you got to know them.

Meanwhile the ones that stick out with "Man I'm such a huge anime fan!" can't keep their powerlevels in check. It paints everyone like that as a result.

>>151406617
Meh let the autist have their board elitism. It's honestly it's a defining characteristics of /a/.
It keeps people from typing like retarded weaboos which is also a plus.

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>>151385212
>>151399947
These.

>>151385112
>carrying about what normalfags think
you're a failed normalfag

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>>151406610

It has though. Compared to other chans, this anime board is a lot worse and it also happens to be the most popular one. It's not like it matters in the long run anyway.

>>151406964
Oh I just meant that complaint/sentiment hasn't changed at all over the years.
I can't say I'm very involved with this board much anymore but it looks like a lot better than when general threads were spamming the board or the constant K-ON shit posting. Good content/conversations have always been rare here but it pops up now and then.

>>151406734
>It keeps people from typing like retarded weaboos
There is no digital identity, that's why. There's no need to put on the metaphoric cat hat and ritually embarrass yourself.
Although /pol/ might be an entirely different story indeed.