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Can't wait for QUALITY in tomorrow's episode..
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>>151332195
Toriyama’s involvement in the anime and manga:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

>Anime Involvement:
“I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be. Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!”

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/

“I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.”

>Manga:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/


Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
Toriyama: That’s right.


Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!
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>>151332269
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-2-toyotaro-sensei-super-anatomy/

>What’s your process working with Toriyama-sensei?!
I draw a rough draft based on Toriyama-sensei‘s original story, then I send it to my editor, who gets sensei to check it. It’s an honor to be able to give concrete form to sensei‘s ideas, but sometimes sensei will send over a part he drew himself, which sends me into an uproar, going back and forth between being all hyped up and feeling really down in the dumps.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

>It sounds like you have a pretty close working relationship with Akira Toriyama. He gives you the outline and you make changes. What is the most interesting thing about working with him?

“Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking”

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/11/30/dragon-ball-super-manga-collected-edition-vol-2-cover-art-toyotaro-comment/

Since it’s Akira Toriyama-sensei doing the original story, the manga has a slightly different approach than the TV anime, which results in a different kind of production. I hope you all enjoy that aspect of it for volume 2!! And I hope you keep reading!!
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>>151332269
Thread has been up for two minutes and you're already firing autism rounds out of your retard canon again. Can you please, for the love of god, just fuck off for one single goddamn christing cunting thread? You piece of fucking shillling shit
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>>151332320
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/10/14/shueisha-establishes-new-dragon-ball-room-initiative-support-future-content/
>Shueisha Establishes “Dragon Ball Room” to Expand and Optimize Content
Shueisha revealed that it had newly established a “Dragon Ball Room” on June 21st of this year. Its goal is to break down barriers between departments to expand and optimize the globally popular Dragon Ball franchise.
The announcement was made at Shueisha’s new publication planning presentation held in Tokyo on the 12th. Although the Dragon Ball Room falls under the umbrella of the rights division, its section chief Akio Iyoku also serves as editor-in-chief of V-Jump, where the Dragon Ball Super manga (the original story of which is overseen by Toriyama) is serialized. Iyoku says that, “in practical terms you can think of it as handling both the rights and editing. It’s a new experiment to have a department that only thinks about Dragon Ball.”
Akira Toriyama, the original author, commented that, “I was wanting to keep this old series alive and kicking even in the modern day with help from Shueisha’s excellent staff, so for me this team is dependable and a real godsend. It’d really be great if this way I won’t have to do anything!!!!”

>Messages from Toriyama:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

“I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!”

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/09/30/dragon-ball-xenoverse-2-collectors-edition-to-include-bonus-toyotaro-manga/

“I’ve been drawing manga less often these days, so Toyotaro has has taken up the mantle of drawing Dragon Ball. I still contribute the basic ideas, but Toyotaro’s wonderful skills allow the Dragon Ball universe to be brought back to life in the present.”
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>>151332324
it's to ward off shitposters dipshit.
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>>151332324
This autism is on an entirely whole new life.
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>>151332324
Report him or anyone who starts this shit. This is pure spam at this point anyway.
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>le toyocucks xD
>le toeishills xD

Oh boy here we go
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>>151332399
no posting Toyopedro memes is spam.
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>>151332388
>implying post this shit every single FUCKING thread isn't shitposting
Why don't you shut the fuck up and think a little, mongoloid?

>>151332396
>jajajajaja ur autistical xD le kewl maymays
Next time you think about speaking, don't.

>>151332399
I have before and jack shit happened
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>>151332462
>Why don't you shut the fuck up and think a little, mongoloid?
why are you so triggered over posting author's comments with citations?
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>>151332508
Because it fucking incites those cancerous anime vs manga debates you fucking mongoloid retard.
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>>151332508
>why are you so triggered that the same bullshit gets spammed every single time a thread opens up
It's like you're a walking bag of autism.
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>>151332508
>spamming author's comments with citations?

Fix'd and that's why is cancer
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>AHHHH HELP ZAMASU I CAN'T BEAT THIS JOBBER

>PLEASE HELP
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>>151332388
This is just attracting more shitposters, you absolute fucking retard.
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>>151332508
This guy >>151332554
has it right. You're a literal fucking moron for not understanding that. The mangafags vs the Toeishills is the absolute worst thing that can happen to a thread.
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>>151332304
>Speech bubble for smirk
Does the manga think we're blind or autistic that we can't tell Black is smirking?
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>>151332605
>The mangafags vs the Toeishills is the absolute worst thing that can happen to a thread.
except no one will take the bait seriously if they're armed with knowledge.
Trolls always intrude the thread and lie through their teeth, at least this way everyone knows the truth and can ignore them.
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>toyopedros and toeishills fighting each other when they're both the same kind of cancer

Why is this happening in the first place?
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>>151332696
>except no one will take the bait seriously if they're armed with knowledge.

First day here, champ?
>Aha! If I wield wisdom in each hand, those conniving trolls won't dare lay a finger on me!
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>>151332696
>except no one will take the bait seriously if they're armed with knowledge.
This is /a/.
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>>151332645
No, but Niggastream probably does.
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>>151332708
muh canon
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>>151332696
>except no one will take the bait seriously if they're armed with knowledge.

Oh shit son you're a retard.
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its like im really on /v/
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>No more GTfags in the threads
>So Superfags find their way to fight each other

This is sad
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>>151332708
Toeishills are pissed as fuck that the manga is confirmed as canon, but they're well aware that Toyopedros are fucking autistic and will swallow any bait that is thrown to them, so they flood the threads talking about how Toei is superior, calling themselves Toiegods, while the mangafags rage and make themselves look even stupider.

Both mediums are shit.
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>>151332736
>First day here, champ?
no clearly you are, copy pasting TA quotes have been a thing for the last year.
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>>151332708
Superior Toeichads are asserting dominance over the mango that nobody cares about because Toyo is a hack
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>>151332815
This actually kind of makes me miss that one stupid GTspic that always called everyone a bug brained idiot for not slurping up GT like it was a big juicy taco.
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>>151332849
>toeichads

This is sad, both mangafags and animefags are cancer
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>>151332849
>Superior Toeichads are asserting dominance
[citation needed] (laughs)!!
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>>151332861
Yeah, at least it's fun to mock his broken English and aggressivity.
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>>151332849
>>151332892
>>151332893
Please just fucking stop. Stop responding to these retards so these threads stop getting flooded with autistic fights about an autistic story that is equally autistic in both mediums.
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>>151332892
>>151332893
Every time, baby
Toeichads keep winning
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>>151332828
>Super is shit
>so both manga and anime are shit

BREAKING NEWS
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>>151332591
>t.gtspic
It's okay carlos, it's okay.
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>>151332949
The Toeifags are obvious shitty trolls. The main problem is that the mangafags are too autistic to just ignore them like a normal person would.
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you know what the fuck i want for christmas?

i want a goddamn super thread that isn't "le toeishills xD" "le toyopedros BTFO by le superior toeichads yet again hehe"

i hope all of you fucking die.
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>>151332799
/a/ is the new /v/
/v/ is the new /soc/
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>>151332696
>except no one will take the bait seriously if they're armed with knowledge.

This is your average toyopedro
And you wonder why you get bullied

>>151333035
shut it ya dwarf
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I don't care about this "which shit is less smelly" fight so post your favorite DB girl
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>>151333081
You just did
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>>151333081
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>>151333081
Mine too.
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>>151333081
You just did.

So second favorite.
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>>151333191
Lazuli is not for sexuals

delete pls
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>>151332195
What's the name account of Toyotaro instagram?
>>151333081
Vados. Second place goes to Mai.
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>>151333155
Teen Bulma is semen demon tier
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>>151333081
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Vados /ss/ femdom doujins when
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>>151333277
Toyotaro_VJump
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>>151333250
this
post Lapis instead
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>>151333319
Fuck off Cabba
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>>151333327
Thanks.
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>>151333380
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Not on /a/ much, but why when you tell people to provide a source, their entire thing is
>Spoonfed. Newfag. Lurk more! XD

If you have a source to contradict something, fucking post it, don't be a retard. Honestly, how much of /a/ is underage?
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>>151333238
>removed from canon just to add more to Goku's Superman origin.
why you do this toriyama-sensei?
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>>151333560
>Honestly, how much of /a/ is underage?
You.
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>>151333548
Lapis is second best boy after Trunks for me.
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>>151333250
>>151333380
Was was even the point in revealing their real names if they're still called #17 and 18 by everyone?
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Here's 1/5 pics of Toyotaro's signatures with a quick character sketch.
If you had the chance, who would you ask to get a sketch for your signature from Toriyama or Toyotaro?
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The only thing that made super bearable was Blacks permanent smugness
the manga fucking sucks
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>>151333607
Damn. :/
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>>151333750
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>>151333750
twintail videl or taopaipai
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>>151333676
do you rike it?
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>>151333790
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>>151333676
If you are talking about in-universe, they don't remember their names so makes sense still as #17" and "#18".
If you are talking about the real world, I hate how most of people doesn't even know their real names also hate how people who actually knows their names ignore them. but I'm a fucking weeaboo who use "Mark" isntead "Mr. Satan", my autism will never be satisfied
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>>151333825
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>>151333081
Hot blooded Kung Fu chinese princess wife.

Basically everything about her is hot to me.
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>>151333868
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>>151333868
Toyo remembers Launch
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>>151333750
Chi-chi or Arale.
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>>151333914
fin
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>>151333676
Even Krillin calls her 18. What the fuck dude.
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>>151333750
I'd ask for a sketch of myself, but that would probably seem too autistic and Toriyama/Toyotaro could not be arsed to make up an original design on the spot.

I'd just ask one of Kid Boo if they refused, then.
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What the fuck is wrong with canonfags? I don't understand.

I'll pick the word of Toriyama then a third party any day of my life.
WHY would you want a third party cuck making changes?

Toyo and Toei are both third party but what's so wrong with knowing how the process works? It seems to me that the manga is more Toriyama involved.
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>>151333750
Vegito
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>>151333750
Buu Saga/Mystic Gohan.
I always loved that ahoge of his. I don't know why they removed that in Super, he just doesn't look the same.
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>>151333976
It's probably like her nickname at this point. Even if she did figure out her real name she seems to prefer 18. Maybe she just feels like she's not "Lazuli" anymore. Or perhaps she just thinks 18 sounds cooler.

I like to imagine Krillin only calls her by her real name when they're gettin' hot n' heavy.
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>>151334096
>It seems to me that the manga is more Toriyama involved
It is, and that's why Shueisha/Jump is more involved for the next arc after they established the Dragon Ball Room which breaks down walls between departments.
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>>151333750
>>151333790
>>151333825
>>151333868
>>151333914
>>151333973
> No chichi
Nobody likes chichi, no even tori
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>>151333750
A bunny Bulma sketch obviously, too good!
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>>151334211
>Nobody likes chichi, no even tori
Although it's true Toriyama doesn't like to draw Chichi, these are Toyotaro's signature sketches.
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>>151334096
Retards believe Toriyama was some God of writing that "suddenly" turned shitty, so they think the franchise should be in "better" hands.
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>>151334161
>"Oh fuck, Lazuli--"
>18 decks him
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>>151334231
this
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I want this colored please!
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>>151333750
Merged Zamasu
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>>151334322
Go here >>151331369
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>>151334161
I'd be cool if they just called her 18, but they say it super formal, like "Android Number 18" or something like that.
I don't remember how it is in japanese.
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>>151334454
Jinzōningen Jū Hachi-Gō
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>>151332195
>mfw you will never be a KamiTuber
>mfw you will never EVER get to watch the best porn videos of all existence: Mai having sex with Trunks
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>>151334454
'Juuhachigo-san'
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>>151334840
>mfw you will never witness Trunks's first night with Mai

Fuck this universe.
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>Hey 18 I came back because I had found in a destroyed lab some papers with our real names
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>>151335049
>This made me remember I have another husband and family
>Bye Krillin
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>>151335313
I really want to see 17 and Krillin interactions
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>>151334840
>>151334995
>Pilaf and Shu get lost inside Capsule Corp
>they hear some loud noises from one of the rooms and decide to check it out
>they walk in on Trunks giving Mai a good dicking
How would they react?
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>Doujins have more character development than the manga itself
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>>151334454
It's funny because in the spanish dub, they just call her Eighteen.
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>>151335416
I know how I'm going to react.
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>>151335416
Probably something close to a heart attack. They are prudes who never had any action in their lifes.
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>>151335496
True.

Bulma a slut
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>>151335466
>mfw 18 will see her husband and daughter die
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>>151335416
>P...PILAF-SAMA!
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>>151335313
>18
>Leaving the man of her life
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>>151335686
Speaking of doujin. Some of the best 18 doujins include ntr.
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>>151335679
Here I am Mai.
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Oolong can transform.
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Just a matter of time until this happens to trunksue, he has cuck genes after all.
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>>151335770
Seems guys just can't self insert into a mini manlet.
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Is AMV-making autistic?
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>>151335867
>Is AMV-making autistic?
Yes.
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>>151335770
I'm ok with that, I can't fap with Krilinx18, they're too cute
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>>151335496
It will be also a pretty massive heart attack, considering it's their friend who is getting fucked.
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>>151335313
She was a teenager and an orphan, so I doubt she had any sort of family whatsoever
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>>151335794
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>>151335930
>Implying Mai didn't get that Pilaf BBC already
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>>151335845
http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ190786.html
It already happened
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>>151336009
Nah, Pilaf is too pure.
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>>151335930

Yeah, I would have a Sheer Heart Attack if I was in the same situation too.
Just imagine the scene: one of your best friends fucking some rich boy with blue(?) hair and you are fucking there to watch. Only a heart with no weakness could stand that.
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>>151336015
>It's the same guy who did the BulmaxBeerus doujin
Holy shit based
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OTP
T
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>>151335416
Pilaf/Shu would have a heart attack like anon said
Mai would get very embarrassed
Trunks wouldn't give a fuck
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>>151335490
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>75% of posts are insufferable /cgl/-tier shipperfaggots

is toei to blame?
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>>151336015
DELETE THIS
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>>151336210
Is that 17 in the background?
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Not the biggest broly fan but you have to admit the blue hair on this figure makes him seem like SSBlue and relevant.
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>>151336491
Is not obvious?
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>>151335559
How are they such prudes?
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>>151336396
Still better than le toyocucks vs le toeishills
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>>151336758
Manga has already won though, it's just shitposters having their last chance at (You)s before February.
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>>151337198
For fuck's sake anon, when are you going to get through your thick skull that the shitposter is only doing that to fuck with you?
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>>151337386
you just repeated what i said.
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>>151336671
They probably lived a very sheltered life in that castle.
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>>151337506
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Why is Hit on a SSB / SSGSS / potentially closest to Beerus-tier level out of all the current S-fighters?

Realistically speaking he doesn't have God Ki. How could Hit be so powerful as to easily overshadow Majin Buu (the most powerful creature without god ki in the series)? And I'm not talking about the Time Stop shit. I'm talking about his base form being nearly on par with SSB (easily miles above Buu or anyone else who made an appearance thus far). His base form is too damn strong considering everything we know about how power is accumulated and where power comes from. Freeza was written as a mutant freak who was born with an abnormally large power (and after training for only a short time he surpassed early SSB), Cell had to acquire his power from absorbing other bio-forms designed to boost his abilities that were already engineered from all of the greatest warriors' cells to begin with, and Buu was created by an evil demonic wizard with all kinds of dark magic and was essentially pure malice incarnate that couldn't even be properly controlled. All of these villains were powerful because of reasons. None of them had God Ki. Hit doesn't, either. Even considering his "improvement" shit it doesn't make sense!

Yes, I know. Fuck powerlevels. But seriously, how can someone with no God Ki be THAT strong? Even considering Zamasu, who had God Ki, he was considered to be one of the most powerful Kaioshin and Goku had to go SSJ to beat him. After that in order to power up he stole Goku's body and all of that bullshit occurred. Why is Hit so bloody strong for no goddamn, explainable reason?

p.s. I actually like Hit. Not hating.
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>>151337758
>Why is the writing in DBS shit?
Really? You're asking things like these this late in the game?
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>>151337840
I actually like DBS overall though.

This is probably one of the only things that makes me go "nani?"
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>>151337758
>how can this character we know nothing about and has lived for 1000 years be so strong in a fantasy setting where characters get so strong in literally 4 months
>I can't accept this!
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>>151337758
>Why is Hit so bloody strong for no goddamn, explainable reason?
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>>151337758
I just figured he's a Frieza tier mutant, who also happens to have lived for a thousand years. So he's bound to be pretty strong. I mean, he's not like Frieza, who literally sat in a chair any time he could get away with it, Hit does go and do stuff himself

So basically it's like Frieza's 4 months of training was equivalent to or a bit less effective than a thousand years of moderate exercise
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>>151337758
>Why is Hit so bloody strong for no goddamn, explainable reason?
The reason is simple: Toei filler.
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>>151337885
>>151337758
Think about God Ki as a spiritual boost to the natural physical boost of Super Saiyan.

ie. It's still strongly dependent on Goku and Vegeta's base form strength.

Keep in mind that someone like Kiaoshin and maybe even King Kai probably have access to "god Ki" being technically gods. And Gohan could probably slap his shit in with one hand.

We hardly even have confirmation that They could beat Majiin Buu in this form. Honestly if Goku went up against Super Buu(with absorptions) in this form he might still be evenly matched. The problem is we don't know how much god ki adds to them. Beerus tends to go easy on them and Whis just floats around dodging them so it's difficult to even know how large the gap between them is.
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I don't know if this has an answer but i'm desperate for one.

How the fuck did Black Goku recognize Vegeta when he first used the time ring to go back into the past?
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>>151338283
Zamasu watched the tournament, remember?
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>>151338338
Wasn't that in the manga? I'm talking about the anime.
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>>151338369
He also watched the tournament in the anime.
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>>151338283
Maybe he killed Vegeta and the rest of the Z-Fighters in the original timeline after killing Goku, Goten, and ChiChi?

>>151338338
This is actually a better answer, but I already had all that shit typed
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>>151332195
It'll be fixed in the blurays, stop expecting much from a tv toei anime.
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>>151338381
Oh. I thought that was Gowasu.

Alright, another question. Did Black Goku turn SSJ or SSJ2 in the manga?
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considerations?
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>>151338456
>youtube
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>>151337758
Power levels are meaningless and you should stop trying to make sense of them. Nobody working on the show cares about it anyway.
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>>151338456
>O.o,
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Fighters I'd like to see in the universal tournament:

>a 2fast4u speedster
>janemba-like reality warper
>guy who can't use Ki and is just naturally powerful
>guy who can age or de-age his opponents by touching them (effect would have some sort of time limit though of course).
>magician
>universe 6 namekian, there are still 5 fighters for U6 left, c'mon Toriyama
>planet Salad's king
>invisible guy who can only be sensed
>guy who can nulify all senses, including ki detection
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>Goku
>Vegeta
>Gohan
>Cabba
>Probably U6 Saiyan king as well

>five Saiyans in total
>FIVE
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In Future Trunks timeline Future Gohan had civilization get destroyed by the androids, he witnessed all of his friends get mass-murdered, and even his real dad, Piccolo, was killed.

None of this was enough to trigger SSJ2.

But Cell stepping on Android 16's head was enough to seal the deal.

What gives?
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>>151339015
He just wasnt strong enough
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>>151339015
Gohan had already mastered Super Saiyan in the main timeline.

He had a bigger bond with his dad, who was getting slaughtered out there by the Cell Jr, along with everyone else. Cell even told them to kill them at some point.

Bad writing even so, Cell arc is a mess.
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>>151339015
Future Gohan was just a weakling.
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>>151338684
A freeza guy who isn't an asshole
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Favorite manga panels from the franchise.
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>>151339015
I like to think that there was no hope. Nobody was there around to really motivate him. He was the strongest good person and that was the problem.
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>>151339090
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>>151333062
t. most perfect man in the universe
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>>151339015
Gohan was already angry, 16's speech was the trigger
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>>151339015
SSJ2 can only be obtained after certain level. It just can't be done with only rage.
And DB always stated that training methods>spending a lot of time training

Whis methods for example made Goku and Vegeta obtain SSB.
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>>151339090
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>>151339150
Was Teen Gohan(SSJ) stronger than Future Gohan(SSJ)?
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>>151339246
Yes by far.

Consider the following relations
Trunks claims the future androids are weaker than the present timeline ones.

Goku at the cell games is obviously lightyears beyond the future androids.

Gohan is stated to be stronger than that Goku.
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>>151339090
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>>151337758
Freeza doesn't have godly ki, either, even when he's in his gold form. His ki is so naturally powerful he doesn't need it. I'm presuming that Hit is like Freeza and is some strange xeno mutant that lucked out. Honestly, I hope godly ki never becomes too powerful that only people with godly ki can fight them. It already puts more limits on the already large scale of power levels from those who are the lower side of it. Krillin and Tien aren't even on level of untrained Freeza. Having godly ki exacerbate the power level gap is completely unnecessary.
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So apparently Vegeta going SSB twice during the tournament arc with Hit was enough to reduce him to less than 10% of his battle power.

Which is apparently less than a normal SSG form.

This sort of explains the entire Zamasu arc a little better.
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>>151339653
>constantly fix Toyocuk's mistakes
I'll entertain you, sauce?
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>>151339128
Fucking Goku, every time.
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>>151339922
>PAT-PAT
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>>151339090
This reminds me the manga should have ended there, every time
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>>151339710
>mommy, spoonfeed me!

It's literally in the last thread, mangalet. Stay mad, though.
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>>151340575
>it's in the last thread
>s-so i don't have to provide the proof t-that doesn't exist!
>toeipedro
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>>151333310
Why is Andy Bogard such a jerk without his brother around?
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>>151339631
>So apparently Vegeta going SSB twice during the tournament arc with Hit was enough to reduce him to less than 10% of his battle power.
Didn't Goku and Vegeta switch SSB on and off during the zamasu arc in the anime?

They didn't get any decrease in power at all. Only when beaten.
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>>151340575
Why are retards on /a/ always going on about "spoonfeeding"? If you have evidence to prove somebody wrong, fucking post it, don't be a faggot and tell me to look elsewhere.
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>>151340782
That side effect only exists in the manga.
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>>151339631
Why didn't he know that would happen though?
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>>151340815
People on /a/ love to be elitist assholes about their chinese cartoons. But in this case, it seems like it's just lack of an argument.
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>>151339128
wait...

did he used to rest his head on grandpa gohans junk?


wtf
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>>151341067
The only threads I go on are this and SnK because I don't watch/read much anime and manga anymore, but goddamn, if you have the evidence to prove somebody wrong, post it. I had this argument with somebody in another thread. If you have evidence you show it to win an argument. This is one reason I believe there are a lot of underage people on here.
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>>151341170
yes
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>>151341196
I forgot how much of a slut Bulma was.
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>>151341285
what do you mean anon?
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>>151341285
>was
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>>151341363
In Z she barely was and Super is just trying to bring back things from DB.
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>>151341177
>This is one reason I believe there are a lot of underage people on here
DB threads are full of /v/ crossboarders, who are mostly underaged. They also bring their cancerous buzzwords and memes with them and that's why the threads are so terrible.
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>>151341409
She was trying to buy some time until Trunks learned the Mafuba.
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>>151341478
Too bad for her. Zamasu is gay.

With himself.
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>>151341438
Granted I'm typically on TrumpGeneral on /pol/, but anytime somebody tells someone else to prove their claim, they show their source. Saying "spoonfed!! Go find it yourself XD" is idiotic because people won't.
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>>151341578
>With himself.
he's actually gay for Goku but settled for his self.
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>>151341868
>>151341578
He is in denial about his thirst for Goku's ningen dick. He fucks Black because at least he has a ningen body with a God's soul.
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>>151342049
hi anon.
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Does Trunks know about Mai's real age?
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>>151342333
How is she that young in the future timeline?
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Episode 63

>Gowasu and East Kaioshin arrive.
>Gowasu: Stop this, Zamasu!
>Future Zamasu: I see. This is the Gowasu of your world and he came using the Time Ring.
>Gowasu: I'm ashamed of you, Zamasu!
>Goku: Gowasu-sama, you got it wrong, you got it wrong. The who was your student was.. (points to Goku Black) that one.
>Gowasu: Oh. Well, I'm ashamed of YOU, Zamasu!

What, Goku? Does it matter? Both were students of Gowasu.
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>>151342408
the pilaf gang wished for youth and they were turned into babies before piccolo was killed by the androids
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>>151342333
No.

>>151342408
Pic related.
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>>151342466
>>151342469
Thanks!
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>>151342469
We need this translated.
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>>151342585
It is
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>>151342612
Source?
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Freeza:
>base/regular form is 530,000
>first form is 1,000,000.
>second form is unknown but was able to effortlessly dominate nail-merged Piccolo at 1,200,000. Probably about 2,000,000 to 2,500,000.
>final form is at least 4,000,000 (stated to be about one-third of his full power).
>100% full power is 12,000,000.

Goku
>landing on Namek he has 180,000 during the fight with Ginyu.
>gets his body stolen.
>body gets thrashed by Vegeta.
>out of commission the entire time they fight Freeza.
>???
>finishes healing
>somehow gains enough power to fight against Freeza in a form that was using at least 4,000,000.
>Goku goes from 180,000 to at minimum 4,000,000 in a single zenkai.

really makes you think
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>>151342624
-1st page-

>Future Trunks' world
>When Trunks was a baby, the Earth fighters were desperately fighting the androids.
>In the meantime, Goku died of a heart disease.

Goku: Oh, I'm dead.

>Gohan left the battlefield in hopes of finding the Dragon Balls

Gohan: I have to find the Dragon Balls and save the planet before Piccolo-san is killed...
Bulma: Gohan! Come with me, quick!

Gohan: Looks like all the Dragon Balls are in the same place!
Bulma: Yes, and I have a bad feeling about this... We have no time to lose...

Gohan: The sky has turned dark! Oh no!

-2nd page-

Pilaf: Shenlong! Turn us into young people again, now!
Mai: Eh?
Shu: I heard there are some monsters near the southern city... I don't think it's time to make this kind of wish...

Bulma: You guys!! What are you doing?!?
Pilaf: *baby sounds* (W-we became too young!)
Mai and Shu: *baby sounds*

Shenlong: Your wish has been granted. Farewell.

Gohan: PICCOLO-SAAAAAAAAN!

>This is the first time Trunks and Mai have met

Pilaf: *baby sounds* (RUN!!)
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>>151339088
This, Frieza's people need to stop getting a bad rap.

They also need to give the species an official name.
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>>151342662
Mai, how about telling your man that you're responsible for 17 and 18's rampage?
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>>151342662
Thanks anon!

>>151342709
>They also need to give the species an official name.
This is what I really want.
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>>151342716
It was Pilaf's fault though.He made the wish.
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You're a big god
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>>151342859
for you
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>>151342753
Closest thing is xenoverse's cell calling them frost demons
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>>151342859
He must be from the FORth Universe
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>>151342912
I was disappointed Beerus didn't have a spiky cat dick in that.
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>>151342987
He destroyed the spikes.

For her pleasure™.

Duh.
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>>151343020
Has Beerus ever gotten any action in his life?

I bet Vados gives Champa a handy every once and a while.
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>>151343108
All he did was sleep before constantly eating on Earth.
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>>151343108
I doubt Vados would get anywhere near that fat fuck's dick.
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>>151342912
>>151343020
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>>151343108
I bet whis teases beerus about sex stuff
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>>151343108
hi
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>>151343108
Whis is pretty much his personal fuck boy.
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>>151339338
yes
but remember Gohan was only able to get to SSJ in the first place because the time he spent with Goku in the time chamber and then ultimately get to SSJ2
Future Gohan didn't have a year's worth of just training with his father in a time chamber, he didn't even have someone competent to train with
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>>151343385
>Imagine being Beerus in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Whis, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your freakishly tall body and horrific androgynous powder face.
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>>151333670
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>>151339015
he didn't have anyone to train with
he probably was only able to reach SSJ in the first place because the Androids destroyed civilization
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>>151343108
It's obvious Whis wants Beerus' d.
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>>151343572
Hi anon
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this thread is getting boring post some hakai
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>>151343890
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>>151343914
I absolutely love the fact he turned Zamasu into sannd.
It's a nice reference to the fact he turned an egg into sand in the BoG movie.
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>>151344015
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>>151344015
>>151344205
Nice, I had forgotten about that scene. Makes the manga hakai even better now.
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>>151342469
>trunks staring at mai

it was fucking decided even then
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>>151344413
>staring so hard he broke his neck
Jesus, calm down Trunks.
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>tfw hi
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>>151344791
Hi
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>>151344467
>>151344413
>>151342469
MAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIII
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>>151344947
TORANKUSU
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>>151338442
SS1 (with sparks, though)
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why is hi so magical
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>>151345677
He definitely flexed a SSJ2 for the initial panel you conveniently didn't post.
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>>151344791
>>151344867
>>151345858

Hi anons, I havent gotten a hi in such a long time plz give me chi chi
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>>151346036
He's not. If you are blind and can't see how the air raise his hair and clothes is you own problem, buddy. SS2 Goku's have a cleary different hairstyle.
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>>151346036
>>151346180
also "he looks like a SS2 in the first panel but SS with sparks in the rest of chapter" still proving he was SS
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Let me sum up every single DB thread for you n00blets:

>powerlevel mental-gymanatics(highest form of autism)
>canon vs non-canon(japanese dont even have a concept for canon lol)
>manga vs anime(shitty cashgrab series, only 2 arcs. 1 tournament arc and now another tournament arc. Battle of Gods is passable, the rest of new generation is shit)
>super vs gt (my shit tastes better than your shit! NO my smells better! No my shit squirts out of my rectum better!)

and of course the incessant false-flagging of the above tactics to gain precious (You)s
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>>151346180
This looks exactly like the first panel you autist.
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>>151346376
You forgot about
>hi
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I can't wait to see best cat again
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My theory is that he starts off SSJ2 but powers down as he loses stamina. The excessive amount of sparks is enough for me to believe this.
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>>151346597
Wouldn't his hair be the exact same as the Goku picture on the left since, you know, it's Goku? I still believe it's SS and not SS2.
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>>151346422
hi to you too anon!
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>>151342469
>Old Mai's design is canon now
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>>151346699
He also shouldn't have sparks if you want to split hairs.
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>>151346932
Well Goku Black's hair is slightly different than Goku's
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>>151346881
I think he didn't want to create new designs for them because it was just for one panel.
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>>151342859
broly
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>>151348722
stfu
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>>151346881
>>151348350
TA did the initial concept art and character designs for GT.
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>>151343572
Where did you take the speech bubbles?
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>>151346703
fuck off, slut
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>>151342640
>151342640
His 100% power was 120,000,000
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>>151338251
>We hardly even have confirmation that They could beat Majiin Buu in this form. Honestly if Goku went up against Super Buu(with absorptions) in this form he might still be evenly matched.

Are
you
retarded
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>>151339015
>and even his real dad, Piccolo, was killed.
That's probably what caused him to go ssj.
What do you think could have caused him to go ssj2?There just wasn't any other stimulus, also he wasn't as strong as present gohan when the latter turned ssj2 so there is that. Levels of power are most likely a requirement to transform further, that would explain why gotenks can go ssj3 but neither goten or trunks can.
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>>151337758

There is 1000 years of unresolved backstory with Hit we don't know about. Was he born that strong? Does he train? Is it magic? Who knows. We have a fucking Winnie the Pooh ripoff that literally uses pocket dimensions or some shit to absorb fucking attacks. Are we really going to question why Hit is strong?
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>>151338979
>REEEE THERE ARE FIVE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT RACE OUT OF AN OVERALL 120 FIGHTERS REEEE

Wow
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>>151343524
The question was
>Was Teen Gohan(SSJ) stronger than Future Gohan(SSJ)?
not
>Did Teen Gohan have more potentian than future gohan?
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>>151340545
Nah it should have ended at cell games, there was still stuff to develop after Freezer saga like Gohan mysterious potential or what Vegeta would do on earth.
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>>151339238

I fucking loved that part in the manga and anime. That's why a lot of the Super characterization for Vegeta bothered me at the start.
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>>151339922
>>151339128
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>>151339954
Ffs they should have been together.
Wtf Toriyama
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FUCKING MOOOO
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>>151351488
told u to stfu
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>>151351778
but vegeta i thogth im supposed to be a raindeer
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>>151346384
>"e-exactly the same, you a-autist!"
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>>151352194
no stfu
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The unused new italian intro;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPLe-eQQrQ&feature=youtu.be

get to 0:49 for dat eurobeat
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READY FOR SUM TOEI QUALITY U GUISE?
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>>151353198
every sunday brother
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happy Christmas Eve lads
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>>151337758
Maybe he is universe 6 cell, an experiment with all the strongest warior gene of the universe.
Also he is thousand years old that help with power level
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>>151353873
That still looks better than Fucku.
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>>151354043
Don't forget about me.
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>>151354106
QUALITY
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reminder
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>>151354214
Reminder of what? Cabba looked the same as he did in the anime in the manga. The image on the right is just from the same exaggerated artwork that featured Boo and Botamo (the fight that never happened) about to clash, retard.
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>>151354214
>reminder that promotional images look better than anime stills

Gee thanks.
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>>151337506
>>151337561
I wonder what his kid's name would be? Tight, as in whitey tighties.
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>>151355010
His aunt is named Tights.
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>>151354214
Step aside Cabba, Vados has found a new fucktoy saiyan.
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>>151355436
>"What? You're telling me that Vados is in love with Son Goku-san?"
>"HEY, HITTO-CHAN! I'VE GOT A NEW JOB FOR YOU!!"
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>>151333081
Done.
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>>151333081
best girl right here
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why doesnt anyone else learn kaio-ken?
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>>151355436
>le dicasty shipping
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>>151332324
You mad

Also MAGNA IS ONLY FUCKING CANON!!!!!!!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
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>>151355010
Thong
Boxers
Panties
Banana hammock
Jockstrap
Bra
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>>151349813
>implying we're gonna see even half of those fighters
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>>151355966
I was just memeeing. Everybody knows Goku doesn't get the concept of love and he is already married with Chi-Chi.
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Will there ever be a scene as good as the japanese version of gohan going ssj2?
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>>151332195
Yes, I'm sure today's episode will be okay or fun at best.
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>be money printing franchise
>still not treated properly by toei

They don't out effort into one Piece nor this. What do they actually care about?
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>>151335867
Only if you don't use Linkin Park
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>>151333155
Damn, seeing these kind of pics really makes me miss this old DB style...
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>>151357451
Money
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>>151357451
All the money goes to Precure because it's their IP.
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Who gives better blowjobs? Chi Chi or Videl?
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>>151333081
Teen Chi Chi. She was best girl before Toriyama ruined her.
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>>151354855
>Cabba looked the same as he did in the anime in the manga.
Sure
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>>151355999
Shut up you sad excuse for a human being. Every time "people" like you draw breath I am reminded of how superior I am. You waste the very space you take up in order to exist. What do you do with your life other than shit post on a fucking anime imageboard? Nothing. You are a microbe among microbes, a fucking farce, and I truly hope that one day you see the light and unselfishly kill yourself so as to rid us of the cancerous blight you call your life.
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YFW average Toeicuck
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>>151357975
Chichi.
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>>151358234
Yeah, I agree, he's black and white in the manga and fully colored in the anime.

Fucking retard
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>>151338251
>Honestly if Goku went up against Super Buu(with absorptions) in this form he might still be evenly matched.
You cannot. CANNOT. Be this fucking stupid.

(captcha "select all images that feel romantic" fucking what)
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>>151358386
Not even a mangafag, but he looks better in "black and white".
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>>151358386
Not him but Cabba looks like he came straight from Auschwitz in the anime.
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>>151359067
He looks exactly the same minus the colors. What the fuck is wrong with your eyes.
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>>151359188
>not him
Sure you're not, samefag.
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TFS BROLI TOMORROW
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>>151359255
>TFS
Please leave.
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>>151359307
>hating on TFS for no reason
Please leave
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>>151359188
Maybe it's because it's from a different angle and that he's not sandwiched between 2 other guys that he looks skinnier
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>>151359307
Keep jumping the "lel tfs is cancer" bandwagon hoping /a/ accepts you.
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>>151359348
>>151359409
Fag-O
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>>151341612
They think saying "hahaha spoonfed" will make them look smart and superior for some reason, when it really just shows they're morons.
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>>151359409
>>151359348
>I enjoy unfunny "hehe Goku is le retard xD" "hehe Vegeta hates Trunks :3" "hehe Goku is le bad father! >:)" memes
You really need to kill yourself.
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>>151359482
yfw /a/ will never accept you for your different opinions.
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>>151359580
You have it really easy compared to the fans of yugioh abridged. Everybody hate those guys, TFS are just obnoxious.
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>>151359580
Most people hate the TFS fanbase and the voice actors themselves because outside of DBZA they are unfunny, annoying, cringe-worthy pieces of shit. DBZA is kind of funny sometimes.
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>implying Great Priest isn't the main villain of the next arc
>implying he won't cause Zeno and Zeno to kill each other leaving him as the strongest left
>implying Vados and Whis won't fuse to beat him
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>>151359580
You deserve it for being a retarded tripfag.
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>>151358442
>>151349730
This isn't retardation. This is a lack of evidence.

We know that Goku alone couldn't fight Super Buu (with absorptions) and they had to become Vegito to fight him.

Even against Kid Buu, who lost all of his absorptions and powers, Goku using Super Saiyan 3 could barely keep up and they had to rely on the spirit bomb.

While we know SSJG was able to keep up with Beerus, at least a little bit, we don't know if SSJB is a as strong as SSJG because the only thing we have to compare him to is the fight with freeza and the U6 tournament.

We have no idea how much stronger than Majiin Buu Freeza or Hit would be (other than some arbitrary quote of how high Freeza's new power level is)

We're ASSUMING that SSJB is exponentially stronger than they were in the Buu saga and even if it is, a GOOD chunk of the Buu Saga was about them all being almost completely outmatched or struggling to keep up. So even if SSJB is stronger than Buu at his strongest, we have NO idea by how much. That was my point.
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>>151359803
This sounds like shit fanfiction.
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>>151359848
Except SSB being stronger than SSG is fucking canon, you autist.
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>>151359580
TFS abridged aren't bad, their playthroughs are horrible, though.
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>>151359198
He looks more slender in the anime art, so im asking you what the fuck is wrong with yours.
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>>151359813
>"muh different unpopular opinions xd"
>"lel normie faggot xDd"
>"amirite /a/ kek?! XD"
Autists like you need to be put down.
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>>151359980
The angles are different, are you an actual retard?
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>>151360027
The only autist here is you. Don't post again.
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Why do these fucking animals eat sushi with forks
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>>151360029
Nah, i find anime Cabba a little tall and slender, compared to the manga one.

He almost looks like a season 1 digimon character.
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>>151359803
My theory is that the next villain is someone from a universe Zeno destroyed

Universe 13 survivor
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>>151346568
>tfw Champa has bigger tits than Vados
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>>151357975
Chi-chi by far. Her lips are untainted from kissing so they're softer and purer.
Plus lipstick blowjobs are the best blowjobs.
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How in the world can any of you be following this show? Serious question.

SPOILERS below if you haven't watched yet


Guys what the fuck. Am I not the only one who hates the ever living shit out of the omniking? Does anybody else not see it as an unforgivable disgusting 10/10 sin that they made a cute and cuddly character the most powerful force in the DBZ universe by leaps and bounds? The comedic value of this isn't worth how insanely uncool and lame it is that this thing is the most powerful thing in the dbz universe. And to make it worse the character is so powerful that goku will never ever be able to beat it either. How lame is that? A cute and cuddly harmless looking character that goku can't even beat.

And of all things they use the omniking to defeat a villain. Somebody as powerful as omniking shouldn't be stepping into any fights at all. It would be like superman fighting Doomsday and then the OneAboveAll, who looks like a cute pink panda, just comes down and zaps Doomsday out of existence with a tickling love beam and disappears.

When I saw them use Omniking to win I seriously said "WHAT THE FUCK" for like 2 minutes straight. I'm glad that I have skipped all the episodes of DBZ super and just watched the major fights. Because none of the major fights were any good or worth watching so all of that build up from all the episodes would have just lead to an anti climactic lame fight that would have made me want to kill myself from waiting all those episodes to see the fight happen.

Dragonball super also just ruined the badass image and personality of many characters by forcing them to act out of character in extremely silly stupid ways for the sake of a cheap laugh.

Or having vegeta just

You know what never mind i'm performing a logical fallacy. The fallacy is I think I have enough space in a single post to list every problem with this show.
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>>151360216
This is massive and so probably a pasta, but I haven't seen it so oh well.

Your problem is you're an autistic moron who takes this stupid fucking show too seriously. If you try to take fucking DRAGON BALL seriously you're going to uncover a whole slew of problems, but if you realize that it's a fucking gag manga and always has been and just sit back and enjoy the ride, you'll have a good time.

But I know you'll continue reading into literally everything and sperging out like a retard, so I don't even know why I'm trying.
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>>151359931
When is that stated? And in what capacity? Because I haven't seen anything that backs that up or proves that? If you can find proof then I'll totally believe you, promise.
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>>151360293
>ITS FOR KIDS SO ITS OKAY IF IT SUCKS
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>>151360358
If you take something more seriously than the author does, you're an idiot
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>>151360085
>implying divine beings need to conform to earthling customs
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>>151360344
Chapter 5 of the manga: Beerus and Champa. Episode 25 of the anime: An All-Out Battle! The Vengeful Golden Freeza

Go my child
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>Piccolo can read minds

Why was this never brought up again?
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>>151360344
This whole fight.
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>>151360358
I rest my case, you're a fucking moron who can't stop taking everything as seriously as someone reading an essay on nuclear fusion. You're never going to enjoy anything with that attitude and you're probably a power level autist as well. Fuck off.
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>>151360461
He could read Kami's mind since they're linked, I assume.
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Freeza fight is GOAT.
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>>151360489
(You)
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>>151360456
>>151360467
Ah gotcha. Then yeah I was wrong about that. I still think the boost from SSJB (while more powerful than he's ever been before) Still has reasonable vulnerabilities and isn't "all powerful" I mean lifting a Metaton is still too heavy for Vegeta.
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Merged zamasu is the second strongest character on dragon ball, prove me wrong.
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>>151361480
>got BTFO'd by Vegetto
>got BTFO'd by Kaioken Goku

Not even stronger than Whis, let alone the Grand Priest or Vados
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>>151360933
Goku had to go Super Saiyan to lift 10 tons in the buu saga.
They can destroy planets with ease with a powerlevel of 9000, but lifting heavy shit over 1000 tons is still hard for someone with a powerlevel over one billion.
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>>151336510
Where can I find this?
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>>151361480
The fact that Goku and Vegeta even touched Zamasu in comparison to Whis makes him not the strongest.
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>>151361480
Yeah, second strongest of his universe only, considering the U10 GoD is probably stronger than him
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>>151360216
Saved
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>>151361531
>>151361760
>>151361951

What about his immortal form where he can wreck the shit out of space time?

He has basically become omnipotent at the end.
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>>151360651
yes brother
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this thread needs more saiyagirls
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>>151362462
If Goku found a qt Saiyan girl who could cook AND fight would he leave Chi-Chi?
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>>151362702
Fighting hasn't stopped him from leaving Chichi before.
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>>151362136
Omnipresent, but not omnipotent.
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>>151361548
toei lol
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>>151361480
Fusion is a joke technique.
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>>151346568
SOurce me

Google
Yandex
IQDB
Wait

They all failed me
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>>151362702
>goku never tried gine's home cook meals.
Fuck you beerus
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>>151362916
>Orders Frieza to destroy planet Vegeta
>spends his whole film looking for a Super Saiyan God
BRAVO
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>>151362848
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>>151332195
>expecting something from a filler episode
Just have fun with those, holy shit
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>>151359572
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>>151363118
wasn't the reason he ordered frieza to destroy vegeta because he fear the super saiyan god will come and beat him?
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I honestly believe Minus would have been better if it had simply been from Gine's side of the story as the events of the Bardock special took place.
>Gine giving birth to Goku
>Forming a connection with her son
>Hearing about Bardock's outbursts about Freeza attacking Planet Vegeta
>Gine being the one responsible for Goku's departure.
>Bardock's side of the story unfolds as it does in the special.

Granted, by the time Bardock attempted to warn everyone, Goku had already left Planet Vegeta in the special.
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>>151349813
>>151338979

Im actually suprised that the famous warrior race only has 5 representants in the whole fucking existence
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>>151363300
It was never stated why he ordered Frieza to destroy planet Vegeta.
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>>151363393
I'm surprised they're still considered the most famous warrior race when they'd get jobbed out by a mildly trained earthling.
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>>151363421
Pretty sure it was just cause he didn't like them
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>>151363421
It was because King Vegeta wouldn't give him the most comfortable pillow.
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>>151363313
Idk why people hate that page so much
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>>151359572
>it's o--only funny and good if the memes are from /a/ b--baka!
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>>151363463
Even weak ass Saiyans reach 1000+ PLs in ape form
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Why is Sumimoto so shit? His tracks for Kai were horseshit except for some particular ones. I miss Yamamoto.
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>>151359255
I don't hate TFS, but they're an American production and should be discussed on /co/.
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>>151359699
I enjoy DBZA, but yeah, outside of that they're pure shit.

HI I'M A VOICE ACTOR LOLOLO xDDD!!!
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>>151346699
I think it makes more sense the way it is, Zamasu doesn't have mastery over the form so it makes sense that his transformation isn't quite up to par
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>>151363737
Because it retcons Goku's reason for being sent to Earth for the worse.
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>>151359255
>TFS
>Have a guy who can almost perfectly imitate Funimation dub Goku, Tien, Krillin, and 16
>He only voices 16 and Kami
Wasted potential.

>>151363804
I honestly can't watch anything from them outside their DBZA and Hellsing Abridged. One of them is even a fervent socialist gay furry that honestly believes Trump is literally the next Hitler.
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>>151364552
Seriously.

MasakoX only got to be Goku because he was there first.
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>>151364552
>Have a guy who can almost perfectly imitate Funimation dub Goku

Got any links?
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>>151364552
The Tien they have is already good enough, and it's not like he gets all that much screen time in the first place
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>>151364765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqfNNuQLIWI
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>>151364552
>honestly believes Trump is literally the next Hitler.

The Funi voice actors believe that too, Goku and Vegeta's voices in particular. All they do on twitter is get butthurt about Trump. Luckily I can separate politics from things I enjoy so it doesn't bother me much as long as they keep their views away from their jobs.
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Can I just skip Z and watch Kai so I can catch up sooner? I'll end up watching Z eventually anyways.

Are any of the movies worth watching?
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>>151339015
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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So is Cooler or any of the DBZ film villains canon or not?
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>>151365077
They aren't.
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>>151332565
Jobbing Black Goku is a cute, a cute !
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>>151364988
Also, with the first 27 episodes of Super, would it be better to just watch the two movies instead?
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Does it really matter if Black used SSJ or SSJ2? In the end both he and Zamasu mentioned SSR coming
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>>151365206
Watch the movies. In particular Resurrection F since the DBS version is just horrible all around.
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>>151365206
I'd say go with the movies. There are 'Super Cuts' on Nyaa which use footage from the the show to extend the movies; Also I would recommend Kai over Z for pacing
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>>151364552
Everyone is a liberal cuck lad. Even Zamasu was a blundering psychotic idiot just like the rest of them who took environmentalism too far.

The moral of the story is to stick to training and impregnating qt earthlings. Zamasu lost sight of what really mattered in life while Trunks grabbed Mai by the pussy and made the future great again.

HERCULE FOR PREZ 2024
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>>151345677
>black
>wear black eye liner
Let me get this straight, Goku Black is a scrawny, tanned, eyeliner using, earring wearing version of mainline Goku that has a transformation that makes him have pink hair? Why is Tori trying to make his villains gay and twink as possible? He already took Trunks and Tien's gains. One of the other villains of this series is literally a green delicate space elf.
>>
The only reasons one would watch Z over Kai is nostalgia. The pacing in Kai is better, and it only removes stuff that you'd only really miss if you already knew of it.
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>>151365653
Kai has completely trash BGM
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>>151359232
Hi, I'm >>151358234 also >>151354214, not >>151359067 or >>151359188. Stop being retarded, blind anon
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>>151365691
Only the Buu arc.
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>One of the last things that a human earthling did that was remotely cool was temporarily hold back a futuristic genetic hybrid bug hominoid .
Why are the Earthlings so cucked in this series. The humans can't even scratch the main villains anymore, let alone have a chance at killing them,
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>>151365809
You mean destroying a million year embodiment of all evil and carnage in the universe?
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>>151365809
Saiyans are hax. There is a reason Kaioshin was so surprised that mortals so powerful could exist in the Buu Saga, after going SSJ they tore through all the limits that supposedly existed for mortals.
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>>151361548
>implying punching strength=lifting strength
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>>151365653
I prefer Z over Kai.

Currently rewatching on episode 89. All of the filler scenes that were added are pretty good. The only thing that pisses me off are the random cuts to Bulma's suffering on Namek. They seriously cut to her too much when she's getting chased by random dinosaurs. But I just fast forward at this point. The added scenes are sometimes really good shit. One of the best scenes was when Gohan was getting trained by Piccolo and had to survive in the wilderness. Early on he finds a robot and they have an emotional scene that seemingly, if not unintentionally, foreshadows the death of Android 16 and why Gohan used it as a catalyst even harder than it was. Another thing I really liked during those episodes was Gohan trying to take care of a wounded dinosaur only to get knocked out and have it killed by a carnivore ("and thus Gohan learns the harsh law of nature: kill or be killed").

My point is that not all of it is trash. Some is, but not all. I also really enjoy how long the fights are lasting. Kai fights seemed to be over in one or two episodes tops. DBZ fights are going on for a solid 3-4+ episodes. I like it.

Kai is fine though, I just prefer the original uncut release more. Plus they actually have the Buu saga.
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>>151366006
That's my point. As an old fan, you have already watched it, so the pacing is fine and you may like the additions. But if you are a new watcher there's no point to much of the filler, and it certainly isn't worth dealing with the pacing for.
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>>151365945
And then we proceed to encounter a seemingly endless supply of guys not only more powerful than that, but ones that have been more powerful than that long before Goku and Vegeta were even born.
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>>151365541
Canonically Black and Goku have the same exact skin, body, etc (toei fault again, like Trunks' hair).

>black eye liner
We are talking about Goku Black or Majin Vegeta? Same shit

>pink color and earrings having any conection with sexuality
(You)
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>>151363261
>total pleb
>for disliking the cancer that is TFS
Fuck off back to /v/.

>>151363755
All the stupid memes are cancerous you insufferable moron.
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>>151366086
The androids are the only of those that stand out as jarring. Cell was made out of cells of all these great fighters, Dabura was the demon king, Majin Buu was feared by the gods as the most dangerous monster in the universe, Beerus is a god too. It all fits nicely, and humans reaching that power would seem even more of an asspull.
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>>151366086
None of which are mortals. Buu is some kind of primordial evil goop, And the rest are gods. The only mortals to surpass Frieza are Super Saiyans, beings created through extremely advanced technology, and Piccolo
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>>151365710
Stop posting.
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>>151352473
did you really...?
how can you call someone else autist?
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>>151366268
He was quoting someone you fucking inbred
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>>151366187
DESU, I think DBZ would have made more sense had the Android/Cell saga been first, and at the end, to defeat Cell, Goku gains SS1, but he doesn't know what it is until Radditz shows up to start off the Frieza shit.

And in that arc its revealed most Sayians have SS1, and Frieza is stronger then that, so Goku has to reach SS2 to beat Frieza.
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So Goku can get pierced (presumably) in the heart by Beerus during the BoG arc and it'll be healed thanks to his god form.

But when he's stabbed by Goku Black's sword multiple times while in Blue, he's down for the count and his wound isn't healed until Chichi treats it? Consistency. Not to mention his stab wound somehow makes a circular hole?

This show is shit and it annoys me that autistic people defend this, among its other issues.
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>>151363463
They earned that name somehow right? i bet theyre potential is unmlimited, just needs some help. Probably this happened before, and so they kept the name.
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>>151366261
Start seeing for your own good
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>>151366350
None of that is canon anyway, particularly the BoG bit, so it doesn't matter. I mean yeah it's fucking stupid, but it doesn't matter
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>>151366455
I said stop posting.
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>>151366512
Not (You) to you. You don't even deserve it
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>>151366726
You're lucky I'm not close enough to beat your shit in. Smartasses like you who think they're clever need to be put down.
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>>151366346
I don't know, that'd change too much about everything.

The way I would have fixed it is, remove Mecha Frieza altogether, the androids kick everyone's asses before Vegeta can go SSJ, they master SSJ in the RoSaT, and the rest happens similarly.

It'd make SSJ more mysterious as even if Goku could achieve it in Namek, he couldn't do it voluntarily (before training that is). The androids aren't stronger than Frieza this way, and it can go down without the need of changing way too much.
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>>151365541
>eyeliner using

Black is only like that because he has Zamasu's eyes. Zamasu also has the eyeliner.
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>>151365528
Zamsu was literally /pol/ you dumb nigger
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>>151366899
Forgot pic.
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>>151364552
I see someone say something bad about Trump and I start to cry.
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>>151363393
Because there are only Saiyans in U6 and U7?
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>>151367262
>U6
not by a long shot, they still exist as a race there.
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>>151367320
...That's what I said?

There are only Saiyans in universe 6 and 7. None of the remaining 10 universes have any Saiyans because that race is exclusive to Beerus' and Champa's universes.
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I thought SSR was just blue + Zamasu ki
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>>151366774
You are baiting, right?
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>>151362462
Fool, the thread needs more Majin girls.
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>>151367002
>Thinks I care about Trump
Nope. Not even from the same country as him, but even if I was American, I wouldn't vote Trump or Hilary. It's just stupid that democrats are falling for the same mistake that they criticized republicans for: demonizing the president that isn't align with their party.

Calling Trump the next Hitler is no different than calling Obama the anti-Christ or a Muslim Marxist agent, or calling both globalists out to fulfill the promise of a New World Order conspiracy. It's nothing but complete fabrication or deliberate propaganda.

People are going to be disappointed that, no, Trump is not out to round out all the ethnic minorities and homosexuals with the intention of killing them all off. It's nothing but unsubstantiated claims with zero evidence.
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>>151366346
>And in that arc its revealed most Sayians have SS1, and Frieza is stronger then that, so Goku has to reach SS2 to beat Frieza.

That's shit
Don't mess with Saiyan > Frieza, it was the best kick-off to Z possible
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>>151367391
It's Zamasu's ki with the super saiyan transformation combined.
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>>151364552
>One of them is even a fervent socialist gay furry
Pretty sure that just because Scott's username is "KaiserNeko", it doesn't mean he's a furry.

He's a gay weeb though.
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>>151367728
He's also a Bernie supporter and has reblogged many of his socialist policies .
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>>151367728
He's a furry. I don't recall exactly where it's said, but it has been said. Cards Against Humanity comes to mind, but I'm not sure.
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>>151367925
>muh politics matter when it comes to judging the product

Let me guess, you're the kind of guy who'll drop a show depending on the political orientation of the creator.
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Fuck off to /pol/ faggots
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>>151368213
Trump will Make America Great Again, faggot!
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>>151363393
Consider this: U7 Saiyans got almost wiped out (they were almost all pieces of shit anyway), and U6 saiyans are mostly bodyguards. They won't have a lot of representatives. Goku and Vegeta are outliers. Goku was raised to be respectful while loving fights, and Vegeta had his edges evened out by Goku and earth. Their skills were also a product of all the perils they faced on Earth.

Not a single one of the U7 Saiyans that died had to fight so hard they'd become Super Saiyans. They were all overconfident shits. And U6 didn't need Super Saiyans or to do better than being bodyguards.
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Fuck Sumimoto, he ruined DB.
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>>151334258
Goddamn it that made me laugh. Just the image that right her sitting on top of his necked corpse... "Shit Krillin? Honey? Babe? Oh shit ROSHI WE NEED THE DRAGONBALLS AGAIN"
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>>151367994
I'm not that anon you quoted, but like what he posted: "I don't watch anything from them outside their DBZA and Hellsing Abridged," is pretty much my view of Team Four Star as well.

They're an annoying,loud bunch I could never be friends with in real life, but they make funny internet videos, and I'm not going to stop watching because I don't like them personally.

I'm not one of those progressive tools that boycotts Lovecraft or Orson Scott Card, because one holds racist views and the other believes marriage is between a man and woman.
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>>151368318
Despite all that, people seem to forget the reason why Frieza killed the Saiyans was because he believed they were getting too powerful, and were completing missions even some of Fireza's top men thought were impossible.
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>>151335598
Jesus fuck... never actually thought about it but yeah she will even out live the Sayians, possibly Piccolo too. Man I can see her at the end with Piccolo staring at the ocean... "I miss Goku, he always knew what to say at these times"
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>>151368295
>America
>great

>ever
kek
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Am I the only one immensely bothered by digital era SS hair coloring? Throughout DBZ it looked almost white whenever they weren't displaying their golden aura.

Nowadays it always looks bright yellow, without chaning at all when they have the aura.
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>>151368551
According to DB Online, which is like 200 or 300 years in the future, she's alive, along with Piccolo, Dende, Roshi and Buu.

I think everyone else is already dead.

>Roshi and 18 will fug
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>>151368684
The White hair was FPSS which they stopped using
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They can just use thje super dragon balls to make 18 a humnan
Also she is a cyborg, bot a robot which means her flesh parts will die
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>>151368800
It wasn't. That looked white because they weren't showing an aura. It's not a new form, just SS fully mastered, so they can control their ki without needing it to show.
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>>151368766
So 17 will have the same deal, huh

>"Yeah, your great-great-great-grandpappy has been ranging this park for a good 300 years now, looking just as fabulous as ever."
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>>151368923
Yep sounds like 17... god bless him ranging the shit out of that park.
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>>151332269
>I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.”

Yeah, sure Akira, we know...
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>>151368923
Wouldn't she have somebody kill her once Krillin dies?
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>>151369214
Do androids have a soul?
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>>151369232
Do Androids dreams?
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>>151369232
Shes a cyborg, not an android, despite what they call her.

She is literally just a human with robot bits, and thus, has a soul
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>>151369270
If she was a human with robot bits she would age and die
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>>151369270
Gero undressed 18 and 17. Where are you, drawfags?
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>>151369214
Well, it really depends. If either Krillin or 18 don't qualify for the Afterlife Body Retention Program, then they won't be seeing each other anyway, since one or both of them will just get cycled through into their next life. If that's the case, then there's not much point in 18 dying
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>>151369301
She does age.

She just ages REALLY slowly.
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>>151368551
Piccolo inherited his father's immortality, just like Buu, both of them won't die from natural causes. I don't know about Roshi, though. I think he's immortal like the other two, but that's never really explained.
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I'm a bit lost, now that Hit cucked Goku what is the next episode going to be?
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>>151369450
Some killing move bullshit, and either Whis or the dragon balls. Probably the dragon balls because he'll become stronger from dying.
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Why isn't Monaka on the tournament team? Does Beerus want to lose?
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>>151369429
Demon King Piccolo only wished for eternal youth, not for immortality
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So why don't Goku and Vegeta just wish for immortality, or at least eternal youth? They're the only reason why Earth still exists and will continue to if they stay alive.
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>>151369429
Roshi stated all the way back in like Dragon Ball that he is immortal, and drunk like some immortality elixir or some shit.

Mercenary Tao, and his brother Master shen of the Crane school, also have some form of physical immortality.
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>>151369450
goku is only half dead
the ki blast he shot into the sky returns and revives him
today is round 2 until beerus stops the fight
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>>151369517
Damn, that's a good question. To Goku's knowledge, Monaka is the most powerful fighter in their universe.
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>>151369564
They only care about fighting and getting stronger. Immortality is kind of cheap and for cheaters.
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>>151369620
^This

If they are immortal, there is no real risk, and thus, no enjoyment of the fight.
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>>151369693
>>151369693
>>151369693
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>>151369429
Piccolo and Kami weren't immortal. Namekians just live for a long time.

Roshi said he was immortal but then against Tenshinhan says he's not. It's safe to say he can live for a long time, because the crane hermit is around the same age and Baba is his older sister. Hermits in DB may live for a long time.

Pic unrelated, just find it funny.
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>>151369552
eternal youth = not aging = not dying from old age

if piccolo don't get cancer or ebola he'll live forever
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>>151369722
Roshi is immortal when it comes to time, but not when it comes to getting the shit beat out of him.

Its like the Night elves in Warcraft, if no one stabs them to death, they can basically live forever
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>>151340764
No Mai to make him happy
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