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Are we supposed to think guy is a total tool?

It's like they try and make him look like the silent badass character but whenever he gets the chance to do something he messes it up somehow. He couldn't even ride a fucking motorcycle.
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>>151293798
i can ride his "motorcycle"
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salt is my dad shut the fuck up about him>>151293798
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He's having a midlife crisis is all
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>>151293798
What was even his plan? Just to collect fragments to make sure his crazy dad doesn't get them first?
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>>151293798
>I sent Papikana out in the world to find my daughter, and she did it, the absolute madwoman
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>>151293798
Go out and drive a car with a summer tires in fresh powder snow and see how well you do. Now try it on a motorbike.
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>>151293798
He managed to get someone pregnant. Didn't seem like he was expecting it at all though, so maybe he screwed up wearing a condom.
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>>151293798
Sayuri was holding him back. When Bu-chan starts carrying her you can hear the motorcycle starting again.
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CONGRATULATIONS
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>>151293798
Punished Salt is a tool, yes.

The real Salt is not.
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>>151298351
A

FUCKING

FIST BUMP

Will they ever be this gay again?
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he is riding his bike on fucking ice cream snow
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>>151298451
When we get the bittersweet Kingdom Hearts ending.
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>>151297371
Is Salt going to de-age in the next episode?
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>>151298451
>mutual confession
>both of them finally on equal terms
>just blew a giant robot into space with one punch

You think after that they'd hug and kiss? Fuck no, a fistbump is exactly what they'd do, because that's awesome. Save the hugs for later.
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>>151297397
Probably. He said something about "nobody wanted you to come back *this way*" So apparently, there were other ways to bring her back other than the way she did.
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The show would've been better if Salt had remained a completely useless piece of shit the entire show.

Like he could've had the backstory part and everything, but in the present he should just let everybody else be doing shit. I mean, he's not exactly contributing meaningfully either way, but it'd be more expedient and help clean up an already pretty cluttered climax.

Now God help us this was also not the best time to decide Flip Flappers should be the Yayaka show.
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I don't get it. The new henshins gave them tits, but no cleavage. Dostedt?
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>>151298682
no, but he is going to use the same machine that made his dad go insane.
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>>151298735
Man... the recent criticism the show's getting doesn't really even seem to make that much sense.
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>>151298757
animator for Mob helped animate this episode to help the team reach the deadline. He made a statement via twitter claiming how happy he was to contribute to this show, but how he is also sorry since he is "not good at drawing cute girls" so if the girls don't look quite right this episode "it is my fault".
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>>151293798
So it's pretty much confirmed that Salt is Cocona's father.
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So now that they are crashing this with no survivors what would be the least painful way to go?

Would you prefer a generic happy ending so that even though the show failed to live up to it's potential at least the characters you have come to love and care about are happy?
Or would you want something bittersweet or downright sad so that something is salvaged from the plot?
Or just go balls to the walls and have something crazy since there's nothing to lose anyway?
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>>151298800
Unless Mimi got raped by Salt's dad or Papika grew a futa dick then yeah
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>>151298791
ok
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>>151298757
They don't have enough of tits for them to mash together into cleavage. I fucking love small tits
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>>151298830
Something insane
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>>151298877
The sound effect that went along with that was nostalgic as hell. What was it from?
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>>151298830
an ending that can make the series be viewed as a masterpiece despite its flaws.
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>>151298451
To be fair, a fist bump is pretty damned gay for girls.
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>>151298877
Literally Zant.
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>>151298886
it sounds like a cross between digimon sfx for going to the digiworld and the madoka witch barrier noise.
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>>151298451
>Yaoifags wedding ring and implied kissu
>Hetfags get to see yurifags BTFO
>Yurifags get a brofist
I didn't think sweaty ping ponging lesbians would save yuri.
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>>151298830
Just Eva my shit up. A happy or even bittersweet ending would feel unsatisfying at this point.
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>>151298877
This scene reminded me of Touhou.
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Is Yayaka going to do anything next episode?

Probably not enough time
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I really want Papika and Yayaka to have a relationship besides just that they both like Cocona.
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>>151298830
if papika and cocona can live together in a clearly romantic relationship, give me a happy ending, but spice it up a bit so its not 100% generic.

If their relationship is strictly platonic though, go balls to the wall and surprise me.
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>>151299075
I don't think they can ever be friends
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>>151299075
>being friends with the person who also has the hots for your crush

yeah no
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>>151299075
OT3 and everyone's happy.
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>>151299054
I have the worst suspicion something terrible will happen to Yayaka
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>>151299111
Because at least one of them is gonna die?
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>>151298877
Giving me Madoka flashbacks.
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Wow, that was a great episode. Addressed Cocona's main theme perfectly and she finally met her real mother who gave her the advice and encouragement she needed to make her own decisions Her relationship with Papika was addressed in a saitisfying way whilst having so much awesomeness to boot, yayaka henshin, bu chan henshin, nyunyu singing funiculi, boss rush, animation after Yayaka transformed was some of the best in the entire show and the symbolic yuri wedding too.

Now next episode all they need to do is give us a bit more information on Papikas backstory and the deaging and the ending will have been top tier. Really an emotionally satisfying episode this week on all fronts.
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>>151299171
Well they never got along and it has the cat/dog analogy
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>>151298451
>literally had a meadow run with the two shouting about how they love each other

You're getting kind of greedy, anon.
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>>151298886
It's kind of a muffled version of the DPI gate from episode 6.
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>>151299246
I can't believe how many people have a problem with this line.
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>>151298830
Saliva-dripping yuri makeout and cunnilingus scene followed by an apocalyptic tragedy that kills most of the cast and separates both girls.

Just fuck my shit up as hard as possible, basically. It's the only way I'm going to remember this show years down the line.
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Anyone want to make a wager that ep.13 post credits ends with a >みーつけた ?
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>They went cheap with Yayaka henshin
Faggots
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>>151299246
What really bothers me is how proud of herself she looks as she saying such a stupid line. Literally looks like a child that just figured out how to use the potty.
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She's going to do something next episode and you're not gonna like it.
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>>151299278
they're just continuing to circlejerk the age gap memay like an autist with a habit
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>>151299309
you're right anon

i'm going to love it
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>>151299318
I got over that last week when we learned what their relationship actually WAS. I must say I like it even better now.
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Would you go gay for Hidaka?
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>>151299246
>Yayaka can't even claim that she's known Cocona longer than Papika anymore
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>>151299303
kek
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>>151299348
Well I'm a little girl at heart so wouldn't that be going straight?

Besides good luck pulling him away from his true love.
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>>151299348
i'm het for science-kun
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>Crisis averted, PI seperated from real world
>Papika stays in PI for w/e reason, has last 好き moment with Cocona
>FlipFlap is dissolved, Yayaka lives with Cocona, hidaka becomes a second-hand computer hardware salesman
>cocona pining for Papika goes to the pipe, finding nothing.
>then suddenly!-
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Still my favorite part

>embarrassed that she is having fun in a ballerina outfit and yelling stupid things like FLIP FLAPPING!
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>>151298791
>animator for Mob helped animate this episode to help the team reach the deadline
Is this why they knock out that EVA-01 with one punch?
If so, then it seems like Oshiyama either has no other choice but to insert stuff some external animators want, or he just doesn't care anymore.
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man, this show could have been such a damn masterpiece if it was just 2 cour. More adventures, more episodes to give us a gradual slide into the tonal shift, episodes and moments to develop flip flap more, maybe 1 or 2 episodes from papika's perspective.
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>>151299418
god i want her to "tch" at me and call me a softie
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>>151299409
Japan gets hit with an ICBM and Cocona is drafted as a pleasure woman for the now corrupt JSDF.

You have to give better prompts than that if you don't want something horrible.
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>>151299409
>we made it look sad halfway through the episode, but don't worry its actually a good end
These are the most bullshit endings, but at this point I don't even care.
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>>151299469
I want her to poke my forehead and glare at me. Amai
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>>151299486
It's literally the ending i've been counting on since many many episodes ago, i guess i'm one of the few whose expectations have gone completely fulfilled so far.
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>>151299469
Tch!
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For anyone hoping that they will fix stuff in the BD release. I don't see how that is gonna happen with those low sales.
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>>151298877

so this really became Madoka but with lesbians
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>>151298956
And what did they do? Smacking balls around?
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>>151299207
Yeah the episode was fine some of the best animation since episode 9 and some of the best cuts in the show in places. The advice from Mimi part was a bit rushed, could have been more impactful, but I agree that the way the did it and completed Cocona's development as a character was good. Matched up the themes of her being directionless and indecisivene with Cocona's lack of family, her wish in episode 4, and resolved them through the parental encouragement to make her own decisions that Cocona has been missing her whole life coming to the front.

>>151299246
I didn't see a problem with the line at all if you take it for what it is. Papika has always loved Cocona since she was born. Doesn't mean she has always loved her in the same way.

>>151299426
What a ridiculous assertion.
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>>151299354
Well, Papikana only knew Cocona for a few months before being separated and then got her memory wiped somewhere along the line.

If I was a doctor, I wouldn't claim to know a baby long than its father 10 years down the line just because I was in the room when the mother gave birth and he wasn't.
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>>151299533
Doesn't work like that.
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>>151299511
>tfw you'll never get to headpat yayakat and have her pretend to hate it while blushing the entire time
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>>151299528
>Mistress Yayaka will never tch! you
Just kill me already
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>>151299528
Pure Delinquent.
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>One side of Mimi wants to protect the daughter from all the danger and damage she always knew
>The other wants to give her the freedom she never had
I will keep posting this until everyone notices how great this was
>inb4 activate windows
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>>151299684
Why was I born into this horrible reality?
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>>151299832
activate your windows dude
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>>151299684

Delinquents are the best.
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>>151299832
Some people think its not great because her mother "made the decision for her/told her what to do" but I don't see it that way really she didn't make her do anything she just gave her the confidence and reassurance she needed to be able to do what she felt was right all along.

Some people think that it is damaging to Cocona's development that she was involved but I think if they just completely dropped Cocona's need and want for a family without showing it in some way while putting significant importance on it through out the show people would just be complaining about how they never addressed it at all. "Cocona spends the whole time whining for her mother, then magically in the last episode just decides she doesn't care anymore" I can imagine being the complaint. This way was a good balance though, it addressed Cocona's family yearning and let her grow to make her own decisions with parental reassurance she had been lacking from a robot.
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>>151293798
>provide the tools to main cast to prevent everything from episode 9 onwards from occurring
>knows more shit about the PI than the main cast and capable of substantial contributions
>go hands on when shit finally goes down at the extent of his abilities
Mimi's just too much of an abomination. If anything, Papika and Cocona progress were handed by Salt.
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>>151299961
I don't know man, I was a loud ass complainer before but I'm finding it harder and harder to find things to complain about. FLFL at LEAST AOTY.
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>>151299832
Apparently no one except maybe Cocona even likes the first side of of her though, so the two sides are a bit too imbalanced and seems like we're just meant to accept the second side is her real side.
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>>151300035
Well, both sides *are* her. I don't actually read them as separate entities, just two different emotional extremes.
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>>151299961
She was showing signs that she was not liking what Evil Mimi was doing, but she was still in the mindset to let her mother make the decisions for her because she was too afraid of failure, when everything she needed was the encouragement and words of trust from her mother.
This also concludes Mimi`s wish of her being free, she even said that she just wanted to watch from far, she just got overprotective because she ddint wanted her to suffer as she did.
gr8 m8
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I was thinking why do I like Yuyu. I remembered that I like Rei a lot, but my favourite moments with Rei are rare moments when she's being cool (like when she throws the spear). And Yuyu's like that most of the time.
I fucking love Evangelion so much.
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>>151299961
I can understand where people that wanted Cocona to be less of a doormat after 12 episodes are coming from, but I still thought the scene was nice. Bringing in her father was an important point too. I'm sure Cocona has put 2 and 2 together and realized Salt is her dad, if Mimi didn't outright tell her off screen, and this started to talk about why Salt never said anything.
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>>151300021
Yeah the show really delivered on way more than I thought it could this week, maybe some of it could have been a little more emotionally satisfying if it didn't have to go so quick though.
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>>151299393
>you will never be Hidaka's AI waifu
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>>151300147
WAIT
COCONA DOESNT KNOW SALT IS HER FATHER YET
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>>151300147
The thing is they are interpreting it as her getting "told" to do something when Mimi is literally just telling her everyone gets worried, thats OK but you have to make your own decisions and find your own way. She didn't tell her to do anything at all. Just gave her some parental advice and courage she needed all along to be able to do what she wanted.
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>>151300085
Well, not real in that neither Salt nor Papika acknowledge her to be the Mimi they knew and even the second side of Mimi told Salt that it wasn't what she really wanted.

Crazy Mimi was probably just born from the fact that Mimi couldn't stop Cocona due to various inhibitions (like the fact that she's afraid of hurting others, as shown when she accidentally made Salt's dad go mad) and her desperate wish to protect Cocona created Crazy Mimi who had none of her inhibitions and could freely use her powers.

However, Crazy Mimi literally cared for nothing else than what she was created to do at that moment (make sure no one hurts Cocona) and didn't even care about Mimi's friends or big picture wishes for Cocona under less extreme circumstances.
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>>151300209
Its never been outright stated to her or anyone that Salt is Cocodad. Its still technically possible he's not, but it would preposterous at this point. Since its been made so clear to the audience, and Cocona doesn't question her mom about it, I'm assuming she just knows by now.
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>>151300330
Just because it was not said by direct words it doesnt mean that the message wasnt conveyed by other means or combination of means
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>those last 3 minutes
Jesus fucking christ
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I want to slap my dick on Nyunyunyu's tummy.
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>>151300525
Cutest couple.
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>>151298844
But their dress/armor is really designed to be filled with a huge rack. It look pretty bad on these flatties.
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>>151298830
You're a fucking idiot.

Every thought you have ever had came from your betters. You're a husk with neither the experience for original thinking or the imagination. You're a barren animal built only to shitpost. The only reason it would ever matter to you whether or not you lost this outlet is because it's all you have. Turn off the internet and you're alone, trapped in your own head with all the voices you've collected, and because they can't move through you, they turn on you. Every opinion you've parroted asks you why you can't think for yourself, and you have no answer. If the internet was off you'd have to confront the fact that you're a non-person.

That must suck.
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>>151299418
You now realize that Papika taught pretty much everyone how to have fun.
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>>151299246
That's a really motherly line, though.
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>>151300657
Some people like that kind of thing
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>>151300657
The preview shows them together as young children in Mimi's world. That's what she's referring to.
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>>151293798
So why does Mimi give YYK the lewdest outfit of all?
Will we see them do a goofy triple henshin pose?
I need it in fanart, at least.
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>>151298451
I think Papika is asexual, so...
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>>151298974
But Eva TV had a happy ending.
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>>151293798
DEJA
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>>151300753
I think she is just referring to everything including when Cocona was a baby but that doesn't mean her love hasn't changed to being romantic with her rebirthed mind. Like was pointed out before Papika doesn't think of Papikana as the same person
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I actually really liked the fist bump it was cute as duck the way they were smiling at each other while doing it. They looked pretty smitten to me.
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>>151300525
I'll match your tummy slap and raise you a womb kiss.
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>>151300911
>duck
Phone posting was a mistake.
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>>151300911
I agree wholeheartedly. It's what two people who know they love each other and just enjoy doing things together would do.
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>>151300525
I want to cum inside NyuNyu badly.
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>>151300976
Which hole anon? Don't forget the important bits.
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>>151300976
Semen punch her. NyuNyu seems to be gaining popularity in Japan although not as popular as Yayaka by a long shot.
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>>151300976
I really want to see futa papika railing Nyunyu
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>>151300986
In the hole of her floating platform device.
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>>151301036
MUSCLE bu-chan railing NyuNyu.
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Between Coconuts, Papika, Yayaka, Yuyu, Sayuri, and Mimi, which character is the least flat?

No Papikana, that's cheating.
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>>151301058
>it's a hover platform and portable glory hole in one
Asclepius knows what's up
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Is Yayaka an example of a tsundere done correctly?
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>>151301195
I'm not sure if I would go that far, but she is a great example of character redemption. Last time Nips pulled it off so well was Karin.
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>>151300976
>loli
>twintails
>skimpy outfit
>hilariously useless/irrelevant
>bros with bu and loves fun
>trigger discipline
>probably sterile so perfect cum dump
Nyunyu is what happens when /a/ finally becomes the little girl.
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>>151301195
No but she's best girl.
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>>151301195
i-i always liked yaya since the very beginning but i've just realized how much i really love, love, LOVE her!

new waifu
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>>151301307
>her power was literally going really fast
Brilliant.
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>>151301341
it represents my heart rate whenever she shows up
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>>151301341
>and literally kicking tons of ass.
YAYAKA KAKKOI!!
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>>151301299
I've called Yayaka best girl from the start, but I don't know how to feel now that she's the true, undisputed bestest girl.
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>>151301195
Yes.
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>>151301341
She found her way into my heart at LUDICROUS speed.
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>>151301390
You might say she has got to go fast.
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I love Yayaka!
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It was a dream
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>>151301722
Sure, at least the shitstorm will be fun.
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>>151301718
i love her too anon! i want to buy her all the sweet bread! i want to make her smile! i want to hold hands with her!
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What's Yayaka's henshin called?
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>>151300637
They will age up in the last episode and the armor will be filled alright
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>>151301794
I am pretty sure it's called "fucking awesome".
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I wish Yayaka would win.
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>>151301722
Since Papika is nowhere to be seen, Cocona goes to FlipFlap HQ, looking for the redhead
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>>151301823
Oh hi Ange.
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>>151301823
at least she won our hearts
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>>151301794
Pure Domination
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>>151301843
That's simply not good enough.
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>>>/wsg/1457514
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1482421834025.webm
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>>151301829
From the storyboard it looks like she is at home with Yayaka eating creambox. She gets worried about where Papika is, looks everywhere before they've been together and asks hidaka too before finally going to the pipe. Not all the storyboard cuts are in the PV though so seems unable to determine if she finds her there or not.
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>>151301794
Pure Delinquent.
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>>151301909
>ED starts playing
>Cocona is looking for her
>Can't find her
>Turns her back to the pipe
>ED end
>Cut to black
>HOLLO!
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>>151301909
Maybe revisiting 7 a little bit?
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>>151301960
>tears of happiness
I'll donate $500 to a random anon for BD buying purposes should that happen.
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>>151301960
Or it could be found you!
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I want to be the only one Yayaka lets her hair down for.
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>>151302007
You are supposed to want to become Nyunyu not Cocona >>151301279
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>>151302007
l-lewd
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>>151302007
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>>151301960
>>ED starts playing
>>Cocona is looking for her
>>Can't find her
>>Turns her back to the pipe
>>ED end

no no no, take away that last one.
>Turns her back to the pipe
>at school a week or two later
>wide shot of Cocona at her desk
>ED starts
>hear the door slam open
>TANOMO~!
>Closeup of Cocona turning toward the door, her eyes shimmering synced to the bell in the ED

THIS is how it must end.
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>>151301070
This anon knows what's up
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Last night I dreamt I was Yayaka. Can't really remember what I was doing though.
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>>151302118
Why do her pants have a slit at the front?
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>>151300525
>only canon pairing
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>>151302181
I want to feed anon creamboxes
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We still don't know how Papika got her youth back
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>>151302212
Literally next episode.

>It's not important!
At least that anon got BTFO
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>>151302181
Maybe you wrote a song.
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Yayaka is kakoii!
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>>151302199
>What could it mean?
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>>151299207
>nyunyu singing funiculi
Missed that, bet most people watchindid too.
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>>>/wsg/1457467
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1482419219309.webm

Will Buu be able to handle Nyunyu now?
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So in the first episode when the suits came and gagged Cocona, what the fuck was that all about then? Like did she not even once question who the fuck they were or what the fuck happened?
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>>151300637
Those loveheart cutouts are going to look pretty lewd when they're older.
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>>151302518
She wasn't sure if that was real or a dream I assume.
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>>151302557
Looks pretty lewd now.
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>>151302557
Papika is already 30, I'm afraid that's it for her chest.
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>>151302518
Everything that happens in this anime don't really make sense nor do some character have a role or purpose.
I'd say "just don't think about it."
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>>151302599
This is a nice dream, but I don't think that's how it works.
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>>151302599
She's the same age as Cocona.
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>>151302604
It makes pretty good sense. The tracking theory was confirmed later on.
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>>151302599
>I'm afraid that's it for her chest
Thank god. DFC is a dying breed.
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>>151302518
Holy shit. I completely forgot about this.
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>>151302873
It was already addressed indirectly when toto/Yuyu directly tracked Cocona's location on screen in episode 9 and then again when KKK knew exactly where the Flip Flap base was.
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>>151298451
they transformed into wearing wedding dresses.
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>Cockona
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>>151299246
>>151303048
these
you could only get more explicit if they started tonguing each other
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>>151298451
NanoFate would like a word with you.
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Anybody do this yet? I missed a thread or two.
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>>151303600
YYK is the only one of the three without a fade legging. Is this meant to illustrate her inner clarity post-henshin?
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>>151303600
If they did, I haven't seen it. Saved, thanks.
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>>151303628
Yayaka belongs in the middle with Cocona on the left and Papika on the right.
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>>151303600
Can you even imagine what it would be like to have a foursome with these three? I bet it's pure climax.
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>>151303973
In that order Cocona is holding her hand away from Yayaka's while Papika is reaching hers out.

I couldn't decide. RGB, BGR? Order by the hair, the backgrounds, the boots, or the characters? It seemed like it looked best that way.
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>>151304092
My autism sees the boots first.
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I can't believe they make 'Salt is Sayuri's boyfriend' real
Well, not real, but still
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>>151293798
>He couldn't even ride a fucking motorcycle.
You try riding a motorcycle through snow at high speed.
Look how long you last
Salt is an adorable Dork though
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>>151303973
Forgive the lazy crop job, but is this more to your liking?
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>>151300209
From where would she know that?
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>>151302199
Better access
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>>151304454
I was just thinking about the legs but it's cool.
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>>151303600
>red
>green
>blue
Together they make up one whole pixel!
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>>151304991
I really wish we had gotten Vividred style gattai. The three of them docking does wonderful things to my chin-chin.
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>>151305066
Are Yayaka's hands thomassons? Or does she use them only for creamboxes?
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>>151305209
Cool girls don't use their arms dummy, that would imply they give a fuck other than being based as hell.
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3hz confirmed for bros
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>>151305209
She punches Cocona once in the episode 9 fight. It's pretty much a combo connector though.

>>151305066
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>>151299303
Made my morning anon
You're a star
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How good would flip flappers have been if Rie Matsumoto had directed it /a/.

Sounds like the perfect combination to me
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>>151305904
Not at all better. Much of the charm is a direct result of oshiyamas aesthetic and influences.
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>>151305904
Depends on whether or not the overarching plot stays the same. You can't really salvage this.
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>Salt using(?) ELPIS
>Papika age explained
>Mimi final fight
>create decent ending

This is all I'm expecting from the finale.
The only way Flip Flappers is ruined for me forever is, if they actually go Pure Audio or pull an EVA scribbling episode.
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>>151306010
Doesn't need salvaging it's great.
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>>151302518
Memory wipe
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>>151306015
That pretty much sums up my expectations too. I feel like some things could have been executed better but have still really enjoyed the show and it's my favourite this year flaws and all.
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>>151305932
>oshiyamas
for sure he has and seeing as it is his first full series as director I think he has done well.

But Rie is god
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>>151306015
Last episode killed my expectations. Expecting nothing now, it surely can't get any worse. And with Papika's age thing confirmed I know there's at least one thing to look forward to.
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>>151306082
Kekkai Sensen was shit but that wasn't her fault the source material was shit and even the aesthetic colour type choices sucked. Kyousougiga didn't turn out great either but I blame that on Toei. The Kyousougiga ONAs and her precure film are her best works. There have been some rumours flying about in Japanese media that she might get a feature film recently which would be nice.
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>>151306169
Well they've pretty much covered everything important besides that which was mentioned by the previous poster so not sure what else you'd expect other than what he listed.
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>>151299551
>Madoka but with lesbians
but Madoka is already lesbians
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>>151300209
What if Papika is her dad?
What if it was one of the boy Papika's from the many-papika episodes???
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>>151306205
Kyousougiga was 10/10 for me and kekkai was 9/10 because it had a few serious issues.

I think Kyousougiga might been the best thing toei has ever made although that isn't really that hard...
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>>151306332
All the Papikas were girls.
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>>151306284
FliFla has 3 confirmed lesbians, Meguca only has 1-1/2, point FliFla
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>>151306365
meguca has 3 confirmed.

Rebellion canonised KyoukoxSayaka
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>>151306284
>lesbians
>s
You can maybe argue Homura is one but that's it.
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>>151306385
Homu is confirmed and Sayaka is Bi, Kyouko is the 1/2
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>>151306364
All the Papikas were drawn like girls. Some were called boys.
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>>151306439
"Ikemen" can refer to girls. Some Nips call Yayaka an Ikemen.
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>>151306169
>Last episode killed my expectations.
You have pretty shit taste
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>>151306460
Yayaka is a girl?
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>>151306439
This is true, Papiya even has a boob-line
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>>151306351
Nowhere near it. Things like ojomajo doremi, hearcatch precure, ashita no nadja, mononoke, horus, hosodas digimon and one piece movies, sailor moon come to mind as better Toei productions immediately.
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>>151300911
>duck

Quack!
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>>151306489
It's hard to believe, I know.
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>>151306256
I don't care about Salt or Mimi, them taking the spotlight again would result in another disappointment, bit that's just me. Pretty sure the final will give enough focus to Cocona and Papika, but with that half assed transformation-confession scene of the latest episode it's better not to expect a thing.
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>>151306573
How am I supposed to suck her dick then?
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>>151306613
I think that transformation and confession was handled wonderfully myself.
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>>151306532
I completely forgot about hosoda's digimon, I stand fully corrected. I still think it is one of the greatest animes ever made though.
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>>151306658
Nah. The "since you were born" and the lack of a henshin sequence kills it. They didn't even bother to shade their eyes in the scene.
Oh and the brofist.
To me it looks like this was supposed to be part of the last episode, but was put in this one for whatever reason.
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>>151306685
It's a show that would get a mention in noteworthy from this decade for me and not much more. The ONAs though really are quite brilliant.
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>>151306702
I'm not bothered by since you were born. Papika is clearly referring to all love there. As for a transformation sequence I would have never expected that for a one off those things take serious work to make to an acceptable standard hence why they're reused. And I loved the bro fist personally it was goofy and fun and really cute. The way they were looking at each other whilst they did in too oozed love as much as the embrace in the first episode or the clover crown scene in episode 7.
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>>151306632
That was my dick between her thighs you fag, I was too tired after making passionate love to my girlfriend Yayaka and couldn't kick your ass.
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>"6HP" (Six Hearts Princess) will broadcast unfinished on December 30th
So there's a chance it will happen with FlipFlappersas well? I still think it's yet another reference to you know what
So do you know any other examples, especially recent, when the show airs unfinished?
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>>151306776
>I'm not bothered by since you were born.
I'm not either. Just listing things that others were bothered by.
>And I loved the bro fist ... the embrace in the first episode
I just would've prefered an embrace, ... or a you-know-what. But then again, they are still in the middle of a fight. That's why the ending seems so rushed. Maybe you really have to think about this as a two parter episode.
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>>151306898
GuP and Long Riders due to production issues. Also Sakamoto got 1 episode cut off due to lack of a slot.
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>>151306658
Good for you. I thought it was a lackluster finish for a dramatic arc they've built for so many episodes. The transformation and daidaidaisukis were adorable, but both characters didn't do anything different to prove they've changed. All happened way too quickly, almost too good to be true. When shit hits the fan, and characters are hit with the worst, you want to see them mature. I don't feel they earned that moment, but again, opinions.
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>>151306974
I felt it was earned entirely Cocona certainly did something different she expressed her love for Cocona which was a huge development for her character. I agree that the scene from good Mimi up until the end could have used more time though and that would have increased the emotional impact.
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>>151307040
*for Papika.
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>tfw no comfy snow sayuri gf
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>>151306898
Kekkai sensen is a pretty good example
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>>151307010
Cool
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>>151307052
High. Oshiyama was tweeting about there being a lot of work still to do after the final episode airs on retakes recently when another director asked him if he was coming to his party.
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>>151307010
Das ist sehr niedlich, anon
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who /STILLhyped/ here
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>>151306898
Six hearts princess is ridiculously unfinished though they have a one hour time slot and iirc 140 cuts in 20 minutes of anime unfinished then a whole further 40 minutes with no anime at all that they will fill with documentary stuff.
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Wonder if card anon can give a sample of all the entries so far, worried about my entry was picked up or not.
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>your best friend is lesbian paedophile who wants to fuck your daughter since she was born
And Mimi dares to complain about her daughter's friends?
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>>151307179
Definitely still excited for every episode. Really looking forward to rewatching everything too after I finish work for the holidays.
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>>151307188
I'm guessing if the e-mail made it, he'll include it. I'd like to see a collage of all cards so far.
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>>151307199
Nice meme.
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>>151307199
Except its familial love, Papika herself confirmed it.
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>>151307179
Count me in. I watched the episode after reading few threads. I expected much worse. It's not perfect, but as far as I know, Oshiyama is green in directing. He started great as a novice
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>>151307271
No she didn't.
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We probably should work on actually organizing the rewatch stream now.
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>>151307207
>>151307275
I was talking about the henshin
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>>151307188
Don't worry, card anon checks even junk folder
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>>151299961
You don't have to type so much to defend it. The issue with it is simply pacing. Cocona was given literally no time to think over her mom's advice making it look like she just did as told. If it just borrows a bit more time from previous Salt shots it'd be fine.
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>>151307301
goood, it's just i remember posting several rough drafts in the threads before the finished product and was worried if the wrong one was picked up is all.
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>>151307312
Regardless of what it "looked" like people are fundamentally missing what actually happens. Mimi didn't tell her to do what she did in any way. Mimi gave her life advice and then Cocona acted on it in line with the desires she already held.
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>>151300035
This is again where the new writer falls short. There are definitely ways to not give evil Mimi cheesy lines and make her comically evil. Evil mimi is only subtly evil in the last ep that was pretty good.
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>>151307378
>people are fundamentally missing what actually happens
Not him, but if that happens the show screwed up.
I understood it the way you did though.
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>>151307179
Cautiously hype, the final could really make or break the show.
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>>151307389
I can't think of any instance where I thought Mimi came off as comical or cheesy to be honest.
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>>151307409
Yeah I agree it could have been handled better I said myself that the scene could have done with being a bit longer.
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>>151307378
True, she gave her the one piece of legitimate parental advice everyone should have heard irl by now, that the fear of failure is always there and it's natural to feel such, all you need is a little push/courage to move forward despite adversity.
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For all it's perceived flaws I still can't help but think of anything but Flip Flappers as AOTY there is just nothing else bearing its level of creativity, ambition, sincerity and passion. A real breath of fresh air in the anime landscape and there isn't another show like it ever made. Better to be ambitious and not quite perfect than mediocre and safe any day.
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>>151307179
At the moment I'm not hyped.
That will change when the PV drops
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>>151307378
I know what the scene is meant for. It's the most important scene for Cocona's character growth yet it's not given enough time. The argument is only about pacing. The pacing not ideal making it confusing, alright?
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>>151307179
The released storyboard pictures don't fill me with hope for a meaningful ending. Looking forward to Uexkull and Yayaka pairing up though.
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>>151307582
I didn't ever claim you didn't I have seen multiple people argue along the lines previously described though. That it was bad because Mimi told Cocona.
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>>151307604
>Literally 2 of the 3 coolest characters on screen at the same time.

I wonder what would happen if Pops also showed up then?
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>>151307604
What do you think a meaningful ending would entail? Are you just using that as codeword for "ending I want to see" or "anything other than happy".
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>>151307627
Then we can agree to the consensus that there is something to improve about that scene.
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Is Nyu a consolation loli for Yayaka? Pic related.
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>>151307660
Anything other than generic happy ending #54.351. I'm fine with Peter Pan ending, someone dying, anything that isn't your standard then they all lived happily ever after as best of buddies.
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>>151307669
Yeah there's plenty to improve about a lot of Flip Flappers but I think the last episode did a decent job with all the important bits.
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>>151307660
Another anon but I japanese media has a fundamental lack of satisfying endings.
I mean for an example just look at all of Urasawa's manga.
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>>151307703
And I want a happy end. I guess someone will be disappointed either way.
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>>151307703
Well at least you admit that you aren't actually talking about meaningfulness then.
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>>151307703
Lately 'someone dying' endings have become more generic
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>>151307703
Peter pan ending is still the most plausible ending at this point, i've self-deliberated for so long even the worst possible conclusion will still show this series in a positive light for me, i think i need help.
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>>151307188
Why wouldn't it?
I don't think all enteries need to be amazing drawfaggtory. Sometimes a thank you is good enough.
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>>151307806
That last storyboard pic is giving me vibes of Papika appearing with no explanation after she does some kind of heroic sacrifice act that establishes she can't return to the real world, but then this is ignored because generic happy ending. Here's hoping I'm wrong though, the show certainly surprised me on multiple occasions for better or worse.
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>>151307703
If it's happy ending then it should be 100% happy like Matoi.
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>>151299458
I know what you mean anon, this show is starting to feel rushed, if we had like double the amount of episodes things would have transitioned much smoother.
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>>151307179
I am.
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FLIP FLAPPINGU!!
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>>151307987
If we had double the episode the show would have been a boring drag
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Why do they put so much emphasis on Yayaka being less important to Cocona if she herself keeps repeating she likes Cocona as a friend?
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>>151308061
Because they are shipperfags? They never made sense.
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>>151308055
We could have had way more psychedelic adventures with Papika and Cocona, exposition gradually spread throughout the show, and more time to explore Salt's relationship with the flips, Yayaka's relationship with the KKK and more info on Nyunyu. Maybe twice as many is excessive, but more episodes definitely would have been nice.
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>>151308000
Radiant Lifegem.
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>>151307422
The best I understand about evilMimi is that she is protective of Cocona to obsession with questionable methods while the obsession originated from desperation.
She's been quite consistent with not caring about any people other than Cocona until this
>You're so persistent, so stubborn
>and you intrude in people without a care in the world!
>I hate you! I hate, hate, hate you!
First I don't know why she had to feel so strongly about Papika to justify her own actions. Also this "dai dai dai kirai" is as cheesy as "dai dai dai suki" but evilMimi is a serious character all along so this is quite out of character.
To make her now comically evil you need lines to justify her actions. Maybe just argue about their own ways of parenting, something like
>you don't know what Cocona needs!
>you don't know how much I've done for Cocona.

A second time she broke her character is this
>I'm your mother, you know!
>Why won't you listen to me?!
>Bad girls like you...
I don't know if this is bad translation or just a bad line. It is making it look as if evilMimi is making a deliberate decision to turn against Cocona which runs directly contradictory to how she's been protective of Cocona. If evilMimi's purpose is no longer to protect Cocona what is her purpose? There are definitely ways to not make it a deliberate choice
>No! Don't take my Cocona away from me! *goes berserk*
or
>I can no longer protect my Cocona. *loses control*
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>>151308061
Cocona is the only friend Yayaka ever had and even that was just because she was set up to be her friend. A real friend for Yayaka is more than anything she ever had with anyone; it doesn't have to be romantic. With how many connections Papika and Cocona share, they're pretty much destined to be together.
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>>151308129
I mean the authors. The preview has another frame of Yayaka looking at Cocopapi holding hands.
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>>151308061
She gave up on love (from Cocona). She's a Tomoyo, it's already been addressed several times.
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>>151308061
To cater to the people who don't like puppy and would prefer cat. Since nothing will be explicitly confirmed, everyone can have their own headcanon as to who wins the Coconabowl ultimately.
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>>151308170
That frame might be a concept from ep9. Seemed to me like some of these were shown already.
I guess it's meant to reinforce that Papika and Cocona are even closer together?
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>>151308147
>I'm your mother, you know!
>Why won't you listen to me?!
>Bad girls like you...
It's pretty common lines for overprotective mothers, i don't see anything "bad" there.
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>>151308243
It's a common line but the way it's presented followed immediately by her own actions says this line is meant to harm Cocona.
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>>151308279
Yep, it's always mean harm for your disobedient child.
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>>151308147
this Mimi persona was created to protect Cocona but she still has some lingering feelings for Papika so she's lashing out to "protect" herself from them in a way that mocks Papika and Cocona's relationship.

evilMimi's character affect is driven by perceived betrayal if her flower meanings are to be believed so I feel that conscious distain is better suited to her than going berserk or loosing control.
At least that's how I interpret it.
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>>151307179
I say this not as damage control or as a fanboy, but if the finale is amazing I'll still look back positively on this show. The last 5-10 minutes of episode 12 were legitimately terrible, but how the show ends is more important, plus taking into consideration of the show as a whole it had way more good parts than bad.
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>>151307703
it's probably gonna be the 'they all lived happily ever after as best of buddies' one
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>>151308608
Yuyu's like "bitch, hands off my onii-chan".
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>>151308681
I love the noises she made this episode.
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>>151297540

Maybe he shouldn't have been going so goddamn fast then.
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>>151308727
I found it strange, but it's okay for a barely 14yo Seiyuu I guess.
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>>151308140
damn that episode was really good

good old times
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>>151308608
where is nyunyu's right eyebrow?
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>>151308744
It was befitting whatever age Yuyu is supposed to be.
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>>151308513
>The last 5-10 minutes of episode 12 were legitimately terrible,
What was terrible about that part?
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>>151308820
You're inviting shitposts do you know? Legit discussions about why are already overdone.
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>Bring what you treasure the most!
>I brought a bracelet!
>I brought Uexkull!
>I brought Cocona!
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>>151307552
I agree with this to some level. What we're getting is way better than something boring.
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>>151308915
>treasure yourself the most
>become invincible
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>>151307552
>>151308925
Think there's any chance of it having a cult following that eventually builds until it becomes a phenomenon, spawning an extended series and a movie or something?

I mean, it happened in western animation a couple of times...
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>>151308955
Somehow selfishness doesn't feel like something that would work as a henshin trigger, unless you were evil, and then the power would do you more harm than good.
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>>151308964
It's more likely that the last episode will be 24 minutes of uncensored lesbian group sex.
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>>151308964
Don't think so. Not influential enough where it matters: in Japan.

>>151308955
That is not how it works.
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>>151308998
If they'd make it easier for us to fucking buy their stuff
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>>151308955
>literally the final boss that get's overcome by the altruistic heroes
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>>151309010
It'd still be 500€ for 12 episodes.
The market for stuff like this is not big
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>>151308964
>Think there's any chance of it having a cult following that eventually builds until it becomes a phenomenon, spawning an extended series and a movie or something?
Becoming new Madoka? It's a bit too late to gain traction I think. Besides, the market isn't ready for it yet. They didn't make it "fun all the way" and some years will pass before people need another "goes serious by the end" show.
Would be nice to have Rebuild of Flip Flappers. With proper storylines about Sayuri's crush on Salt or Twins realizing they like each other more than KKK. All that good stuff that was just brought up in the end with no build-up.
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>>151307179
I didn't take part in any threads up until ep.12 and I didn't notice any kind of decline or worsening. Shows how /a/'s negativity influences your enjoyment of anime for the worse.

The only weak parts of ep.12 were the animation errors and how Mimi's good self just randomly appeared to Cocona, that part was lazy.
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>>151308981
Until it fades to a title card that reads "CONFIRMED GAY CHAMPS 2016. SUCK IT HOMOS ON ICE"
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>>151309213
>Yaoifags get wedding rings and implied kissu
>We get a brofist
Please don't remind me next time.
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>>151309172
Cocona's false memories immediately undone was weak too, and Cocona and Papika henshining for the second time because muh power of friendship was also questionable (very rushed and lacked necessary tension at least)
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Does anyone have experience with how fast limited BDs usually sell out? Say I wanted to buy Infinite's limited edition BD set but could only afford it in 2 or 3 months.
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>>151309257
I'd feel better if their second transformation took care of Mimi once and for all and we get something unrelated in the finale. But Mimi is still presumably around so no chance of that.
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>>151309268
Don't worry, I'm sure there will be lots of unsold ones left.
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This sequence is animated on ones
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>>151309312
I'm surprised that out of all the mysteries still unanswered that people listed nobody has wondered what exactly Mimi is.
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Dear Cocona
I've loved you since neonatal
Now I'm robbing that cradle
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>>151308147
The first line is one that for now I'm holding out on since it might make a lot of sense in retrospective, what with how Papika followed Mimi into PI and whatever ended up happening meant Cocona ended up back in the real world.

The second one is one of my main gripes with the episode. I've otherwise really enjoyed how they've been handling Mimi's character. I love how >>151299832 are two sides of the same coin that make perfect sense considering her background, and looking at the evil!Mimi and good!Mimi's actions as playing out Mimi's internal conflict is very satisfying. But I just can't wrap my head around that line.
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>>151309386
A person with the power to access PI. That's it. Though bringing in her relatives would be cool. For that family drama feeling.
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>>151309367
This sequence and the one immediately after were my favourites in the entire episode. Probably the best looking bit since episode 8. I've rewatched it over a dozen times by now.
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>>151309367
Nice.
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>>151309390
What the fuck were they thinking?
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literally can't stop watching this
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>>151309591
You and me both, pal.
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>>151309172
>I'm just a newfriend who jumped in the bandwagon
Please don't post here again.
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>>151309669
Fucking nyufags, I swear.
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>>151309591
Can't wait for the rewatch stream, chat is going to lose it so badly.
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>>151309257
>friendship
That's the part you should be questioning.

Anyway, we've been predicting a zero impedance event since at least episode 4. It really wasn't surprising if you were paying attention.
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>>151309721
Shit, watching it last night briefly turned me into "black guy guy losing his shit" levels of hype watching by myself
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>>151309721
Speaking of streams, today's on Abema had neat reactions.
>KITAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Shouldn't be frowning
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https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1482419219309.webm

daily dose
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>>151309864
>shit my niece totally wants to fuck, how do I break this to her gently?
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>>151309864
Didn't look like that initially. Who is to blame?
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out of model
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>>151309879
The guy from Mob that had to help out. He apologized already via twitter.
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>>151309828
Kill yourself, monkey.
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Out of model 2
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>>151309879
that was an inbetween
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>>151301897
I came when this happened
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out of model 3
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>>151309915
Sorry pal, you got the wrong continent there.
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>>151309891
>>151309933
>>151309985

Please redraw this for the BDs. ;_;
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>>151309933
Are you just capping in-betweens and distance shots? Because it doesn't really matter terribly if those remain on-model
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>>151310042
you can look it up and see for yourself
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>>151310042

They are legitimately bad. Especially >>151309933 bothered me while watching.
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These are supposed to be smears but they lack the well-done speedlines as in previous episodes.
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>>151310013
Except that there are no portuguese weebs
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>>151310145
for the reference
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>>151310145
That's because they immediately lead into this, anon.
They aren't conveying speed smears but motion blur. There's even an in-between frame with no Yayaka. She disappears after deforming and before reappearing as a line. It was a deliberate style choice.

Why are you trying so hard to nitpick animation when you clearly know so little?
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>>151310145
green yayaka is so fast that speedlines are unnecessary
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>>151309890
Perfection.
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>huh, /a/ has consistant trolls, for this show, wonder what the rest of the world thinks...
>search Flip Flappers via twitter: Nothing but praise and love
>search Flip Flappers via tumblr: Nothing but praise and love
>search Flip Flappers via Google: Nothing but praise and love
>search Flip Flappers via Reddit: Noting but praise and love, 2 or 3 recurring trolls in ever thread


So its pretty safe to say that outside of a small handful of trolls, this show is considered to be amazing by the masses with only a couple nitpicks here and there?
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These muscles make my dick hard
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>>151309828
How many people were watching?
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>>151310224
Not him, but they do contribute to the unpolished impression 12 made. Especially when compared with >>151310169
The warning signs were there when they said they have a tight schedule during that 8/9 prescreening event.
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>>151310376
I remember when at the start and middle of the season literally no one but /a/ was talking about and liking this show.
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>>151300525
>>151300976
>>151300976
M-MUH DICK!
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>>151310408
~10k
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>>151310419
isn't it weird though? Up until the middle of the season, Only /a/ knew about the show, and then once the world discovered it, trolls came to /a/ to spread shitposting, despite the majority of people outside /a/ loving it as well?
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>>151310376
/a/ always has trolls. But shit escalates when they do have valid criticism, even when exaggerated, and they collide with die-hard fans in damage-control mode.
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>>151310473
Yeah, but no show is perfect. Every show has "valid criticism" that can be used against it. The problem is when fans who say its not that big of a deal get flamed and deal with shitposters who just won't give up.
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>>151310473
Don't forget that yuri/yuribait is a shitposting magnet as well
>>151310409
>Not him, but they do contribute to the unpolished impression 12 made
But they don't. You wouldn't use speedline smears to transition into that multicolor beam
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>>151309721
I miss neetball chat
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>these last 3 episodes have made it impossible to not like Yayaka more than Papika
For what fucking purpose. I will never get over this.
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>>151310450
More like the standard shit of
>something on 4chan picks up steam
>people take it to other websites, reddit, twitter, etc.
>people visit the threads on 4chan due to high activity
>high activity makes it a prime target for career shitposters who'd target whatever the hell is popular on 4chan for maximum attention

The only thing that has threads as active as Flip Flappers right now is Yuri on Ice.
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>>151310376
Yeah bullshit. There is a lot of criticism out there about episode 12. The rest of the series has been fine but they done fucked up with episode 12
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>>151310376
Papikafaggots are just upset that it's finally undeniable that Papika is a shit. They wanted to pretend so badly, for the sake of their yuri OTP, that Papika and Cocona had some 3deep4u secrets yet to be uncovered, but all that happened was that Papika is literally into pedo-incest.
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>>151310551
yeah but FlipFlappers had been roughly as active as Yaoi on Ice the entire season if that one anon's statistics are to be believed so why would they come out of the woodwork at this point?
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>>151309879
the final frame gets retraced digitally by another person and loses all the line quality of the original key frame
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>>151310581
Episode 12 is better than 4,7,10,11 and 2
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>>151310531
There were shitposters on both sides. I might've contributed. And I liked every episode so far.

>>151310532
>multicolor beam
Sure. It's fine on it's own, but when you put it into a subpar episode, you shouldn't be surprised if it will get pointed out.
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Guys are we organizing rewatch of series before final episode airs yet?
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>>151310376
You lie. No one's watching this but /a/
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>>151310612
But it isn't a subpar episode you mouthbreathing retard.
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>>151310584
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>>151310436
Please kill yourself.
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>>151310550
I like them both
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>>151310473
>damage control
There's that word again. People liking something and talking about why they like it isn't damage control. People challenging negative opinion to justify itself isn't damage control, especially when that negative opinion is shit like this >>151310145 where someone with no knowledge of animation is complaining about in-between frames and trying to claim that it's evidence of some general failure of presentation.

Every episode has flaws, we all acknowledge that, but patience wears thin when 4 consecutive threads lose half their bump limit to the same 3 or 4 shitposters spamming the same single-sentence criticism slightly reworded each time, or bandwagon jumpers that come in and start writing paragraphs upon paragraphs to intricately explain things they don't really understand to justify the negativity in a thread overrun with dedicated shitposting. We get it, one line of dialogue and some sloppy in-betweens utterly ruined the entire series for you. Great job, you have shit taste, we forgive you.
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>>151310606
>>151310632

Maybe. Maybe not. But it certainly looked worse and had worse cuts.
I still liked it by the way.
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>>151310678
>trying to claim that it's evidence of some general failure of presentation
You're clearly delusional. There is no claim about general failure of presentation I can see of.
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>>151310678
>proving his argument
>this whole post
You are the definition of damage control.
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>>151310678
I meant the constant
>really feeling that writer change
shitposting on the fan side that happened while everyone was racing COCONA vs. semi-broken HS torrents
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>>151310678
This show's facial expressions are way too unexpressive
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>>151310606
>4, 2
Whoa I wouldn't go that far.
4 was an excellent emotional episode and hit all the right notes while having some of the best in-episode pacing in the series. It was a highlight

2 was just goddamn great overall and one of the most visually distinct episodes. The whole sequence during Papika's powerup and their escape from the PI was excellent, too.

Not that 12 was particularly bad, but I wouldn't put it ahead of those 2 episodes, because they were great.
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>>151310689
The only really bad cuts I noticed in the episode were the scenes with Salt and Nyunyu but at those points they didn't detract much from the enjoyment of the episode.
The fight scenes looked great
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>>151310740
>if you disagree with me it means you're on damage control
Okay.
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>>151310588
It takes a while for a show to really noticeably pull away from the pack. An anime original isn't going to be as prime a target as something that was majorly hyped during the season's pregame.
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>>151310797
I can give you 2 because it's an edge case for me and I haven't rewatched in a while.
But 4 was just rather boring to watch in my opinion and not having a PI was just a further detriment.
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>>151310819
The one cut from the escape of PI #2 into PI #3 comes to mind. There was a 10 second scene of that rabbit that felt out of place.
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>>151310819
The part with the motorcycle where they quickly switched to a 2-frame slideshow and then back to animation was probably the worst moment in the show. That was one of those times where there is clearly no reason for the shot to be edited that way except to cover over unfinished work and it is really something you can't not notice while watching the episode. As far as I can remember, it's the first time this show has had a moment like that genuinely indicative of production impacting airing.

That said, I think it's a good thing that those issues were contained to the comic relief bits early in the episode and didn't impact the actual action sequences. Those remain the highlight of the episode and Yayaka's henshin really deserves a lot of credit for how amazingly put together the whole scene was.
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>>151299832
Either find a key online or ca;; up MS support bihh
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What kind of PI's would you have liked more of guys? My personal favorites were the ones that were an aspect of someone in the cast, I wish we had gotten into Sayuri's head.
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>>151310830
I'm glad you understand.
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>>151310729
I claimed it and saw other people claim it. Not because of in-betweens, of course, but because of crumpled last 5 minutes, where various characters' emotions and emotional transitions were just not given enough time. Which resulted in a jump from the ever-powerful Mimi mindbreaking Papika while Cocona watching disinterestedly to them one-shotting the not!Unit02 with almost nothing in-between.
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>>151310376
This show is considered amazing by those who watch it. Which is nobody.
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>>151310952
I just miss the cool, more fantastic high concept ones.

4 didn't even really have a Pure Illusion, but Papika and Cocona trying to survive on an island was fun too.
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>>151310952
My favourites by far were the ones where the PI itself wasn't really relative to the overarching narrative and functioned as much as a standalone. 3, 5 and 8 are probably my three favourite episodes so I think I would have liked more PIs like that.

I found that the PIs focused on advancing the plot didn't really feel like they advanced the characters much or gave them much time to shine as individuals, while those more standalone PIs ended up having a lot of character development just in the fact that nothing took the spotlight away from the characters themselves.

Particularly, I found that the more plot-focused an episode was, the less agency Cocona had and the more passive she became. The standalone episodes all have her relatively active and engaged, and she takes the role of protagonist proactively. 5 in particular was a very Cocona episode. Compare that to something like 7, where Cocona spends the whole episode basically alone and yet barely says or does anything, and shows almost no expression of emotion. Whenever the plot steps forward, her character steps backwards and I think I liked her character more than the plot.
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>>151311078
>Compare that to something like 7, where Cocona spends the whole episode basically alone and yet barely says or does anything, and shows almost no expression of emotion
I think you missed the point of ep 7 by its incredible subtlety.
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>>151311078
>7
>a plot episode
>not a highly focused character study of Cocona, where every single scene points out something about her
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>151310952
We've already seen Sayuri's PI.

Hers was the spiky planet, home of the gimps. She's a BDSM enthusiast.
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>>151311078
My favorite episodes are 3 (pure fun factor) 4 (I think this had the best character interactions and development between cocona and papika, I wish there were more "survival" or "stranded alone and together" moments in the show) , 6 (just a masterfully done episode imo) 8 (pure fun factor again) 9 (good tension and Yayaka showdown was god like) 11 (fuck you, I loved it. Whole episode had me at the edge of my screen like a super hyped black guy)
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I need cute winter-clothes Sayuri art.
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>>151311231
Still doubles the stats total.
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>>151311172
BDSM-DOMINATRIX-TENTACLE-ALIEN-QUEEN thank you anon
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What would Yayaka's PI be like?
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>>151311200
To be honest, the whole 9,10,11,12 arc has been amazing for me, I love it.
I don't think there;s been a single episode that I've disliked in this entire series. The jump from episodic with hints at something bigger to full on "we plot now" big picture stuff was a sharp one but the plot is good and the episodes have been amazing so I really have no complaints.

I love the fact that we've gone from "oh shit" moments in 10 and 11 to Yayaka henshin and Cocona saying "daidaidaisuki"
In every way this feels like a climax of everything the fun standalone episodes had been building towards all along.
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>>151311172
>>151311277
ehhhhh
her PI is K-ON world, she's Mio
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>>151311390
ep 9
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>>151311390
Like the Class S one except all the creepy girls are Coconas. For real though, I think we did see it in episode 9.
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>>151311390

Eternal friendship with CCN in a loving home where she feels welcome and like she has a place
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>>151311450
So she's KKK Delinquent Batman?
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>>151311403
I think 12 faltered a bit, but otherwise I agree with you. I have said it many times before, but I really feel like this show needed one extra episode- it should have dedicated an entire episode to the boss rush, and then another entire episode to Mimi mindrape of papika and Cocona development into Mimi pep talk.
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>>151311495
Yayaka's PI tried that, but Cocona didn't like it too much. Her Papilust had become too strong at that point to be contained.
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>>151311499
Japanese Lesbian Batman
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>>151311390
An idyllic field of flowers surrounded by volcanoes
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>>151311505
The problem with that is that you can't have a 14 episode TV show.

I mean yeah, they could have planned it "better", but that would have meant cutting one of the earlier episodes that people like the most. Not a good trade.
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>>151311318
I'd commit unspeakable things if I could lick Yayaka's belly.
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>>151311617
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>>151311576
gurren lagann managed to have 27 episodes, and bakemonogatari first run managed to have 15 episodes. you don't HAVE to stick to cour limits.
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>>151311505
I do think this episode could have been paced better, but at the same time I thought 11 could have been paced better until I saw 12 and realized they paced it to make room for what was coming next. In retrospect the way they did things made sense and I appreciated it as soon as I could see where they were going with it.

I assume I'll feel the same way for 12 after 13. 12 was dense, but that also speaks volumes for what they're going to attempt to accomplish with 13. As long as they don't drop the ball, I'm sure the way things fit together will continue to make sense in hindsight. You just have to be comfortable with spending a week not knowing.
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>>151311612
I want to rest my head on it and pat it like a bongo drum until she gets pissed off and smacks my face in
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>>151310376
I'm certain that if I were marathoning this episode 12 would've just been a stumble but I'd still be enjoying the ride. Here since we're all watching weekly every negative thing gets magnified to hell and back to the point where it's suddenly worst show of the season or something.

Having said that, I still think there was a much better version of this show that could've been if it weren't for scheduling failure, an inexperienced director, and not to mention the change of main writer. The ideas and premise were there, they just couldn't execute it well enough to make this a legendary anime instead of just a good one. Which is such a damn shame.
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>>151311576
>The problem with that is that you can't have a 14 episode TV show.
Just curious, why not? Both Haruhi seasons were 14, for example.
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>>151311668
11 is honestly my favorite episode in the entire series and the one episode I have rewatched the most. I think most of my disapointment with 12 is simply because it does not live up to the level of hype nor drama 11 ended with.
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>>151311661
Bakemonogatari had 12 tv episodes and 3 web episodes.
That's a terrible idea and generally something you avoid at all costs. The final BD sold less than half the average because it didn't have a tv airing, and the web release was only possible due to the kind of backing that the show had.

When you get too big for your britches, you get shit like Kekkai Sensen, where the final episode is delayed two full seasons because they can't find a timeslot big enough to air it.
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>>151311687
It all depends on 13, but that PV combined with Pure Audio and the increasing drop in animation / drawing / pacing since 10 leaves me without expectations.
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>>151311687
Just to add, the execution of the first 9 episodes was excellent, and 10/11 were very good. 12 is still good, just not as good.
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>>151311687
if this was 2 cour, this anime would have been one of the best ever made.

As it is now, it is only really really good anime. But man, imagine how amazing it could have been!
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>>151311688
You can sometimes get extra episodes on air if scheduling allows it and the production committee wants to pay for it.

But it's highly unusual. Flip Flappers is already pushing it at 13.
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>>151311668
>>151311505
Episode 7 was almost pointless if you think about it. It was a "character study" and not even one that warranted its own episode, and aside from that it'll only be remembered for the multi Papika gimmick. It could've been possible, for example, for them to combine 7 and 10 in such a way where Cocona and Papika enter PI accidentally while escaping the base, at which time Cocona encounters the Papikas in rapid succession. This gives the reveal of Mimi afterwards by Papika even more impact seeing that it came after the exploration of Cocona's feelings. The flashbacks can take place in the next episode entirely.

The above is a bad example since it's so much to cram into one episode, but it's just one example of something they could've done. The main point is that 7 took up unnecessary time that could've been used for something else.
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>>151311843
There are a lot of 13-episode shows out there though, not really pushing it.
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>>151311872
13 is totally normal. That's just a quarter of a year.
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>>151311872
nah, the only wasted thing about 7 is that we dont ever see papikas equivilent. If the episode had been equally split between papika and cocona in their versions of that PI, then that episode would have been 11/10 goat.
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>>151311882
It used to be more common, but 12 is the standard now. Fall season shows in particular are shorter because of Christmas programming, there's not many 13-episode shows this season (the only other one I'm watching is Euphonium, there are probably a couple more).
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>>151311872
Sorry but ep 7 is probably the most important episode in terms of series composition.
>pivot ep
>transition from adventure arc to drama arc
>connecting present time PapiCoco with past SaltMimi
>exposition on PI nature and KKK
It's also a strong episode about character development
>following up DPI personality fuckery in ep 6 to develop Cocona's character
>cementing the yuri in PapiCoco
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>>151311945
To be fair though, would Papika have really been affected as much by 7!PI as Cocona?

She's just constantly thrilled to be around Cocona, but whatever she was dong involved building a spaceship out of abandoned refuse.
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>>151311958
Just taking a quick glance at what I've watched, there are at least a couple pretty much every season for the last few years. 12 is the standard, but 13 isn't uncommon.
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>>151310550
Because Yayaka is the combat monkey in a show that is not primarily concerned with how well its characters can fight. She gets all the badass scenes but not the girl because she failed key tests of character.

Papika is best because she has her priorities straight.
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>>151312040
Sure, there are always 13-episode shows. But the original point is that 13 is already a "long" show. 14 exists but it's incredibly rare.
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>>151312091
>she failed key tests of character
Are we watching the same show?
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>>151312030
I think anything that would give us more of the internal thinking and struggles of Papika would improve the story signifigantly. A lot of the reason why people are so adverse to lines like "I have loved you since you were born!" is because while we know a lot about Papika, we really still dont know the way she thinks about these things or how she views the world, her ID, her past, ect.

This means lines such as that are uncomfortable and awkward specifically because it is very difficult to parse what sort of love she is talking about because while her character is relatively complex, our understanding of her internal thought processes and thinking is nearly zero.
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>>151312150
I think the idea behind it is that Cocona is looking for a mother figure, and that mother figure ironically is Papika.
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>>151312091
>that is not primarily concerned with how well its characters can fight
Factually incorrect. Yayaka is actually the most trained individual thanks to Asclepius being the semi-military organization that it is. Cocona and Papika never received formal training, so it makes complete sense that she is better than them.

>Papika is best because she has her priorities straight.
Oh right, Papika, who after "dai kirai" couldn't even bother to stand up until Yayaka verbally smacked her down for not wanting to help her supposedly prematernal soul mate. Ever since Yayaka switched, she has been nothing but not a 100% concerned about Cocona (which was her character point even while working for the enemy).
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>>151312150
As a dogfag craving for backstory the last weeks
>our understanding of her internal thought processes and thinking is nearly zero
There are some clues about Papika being a fated lover for Cocona. The next ep can do it really.
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>>151312150
>it is very difficult to parse what sort of love she is talking about
I think it's obvious not a romantic one. Still, you are very correct in the rest of your statements. Papika wasn't given enough exposition.
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>>151312091
>Papika
>straight
That's not how it works, you silly boy.
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>>151312223
>Cocona is looking for a mother figure
And she got hers, who is not Papika
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>>151312290
And also a ghost.
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>>151312223
A mother figure is a figure of stability, not uncertainty. Adventures are full of uncertainty.
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So what's special about the Amorphous Children anyways? They seem like some kind of Pure Illusion test tube babies or something.

We only have one more episode to wrap all this up and it seems like this is yet another thing that's not going to have meaningful payoff.
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>>151312304
Two for the price of one, even
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>>151312309
The amorphous children can enter Pure Illusion by design. Normal humans can't unless they're really special.
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>>151312309
You got the sweetest character development for Yuyu, be happy with that
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Am I the only one that thinks episode 12 just took a dive in quality...
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>>151312306
They haven't been going on adventures since Papika turned out to actually be a mother figure. That's why it's ironic.
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>>151312375
Ganging up on Mimi is an adventure.
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>>151312150
Maybe it's an issue for most people. I personally like it. Cocona is constantly wrapped up in all this inner turmoil and conflict while Papika was, up until she had to start reconciling 20-something years of past experiences, pretty straightforward and open about what she wants.

The fact that her old self is pretty much Papika, just more professionally minded, reinforces that appeal.
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>>151312375
Papika got fucked into a toddler by evil mimi. Her age was reset. She acted in a child's capacity not a mother, ok?
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>>151312409
Notably not an adventure where she drags Cocona along, and also notably not one she was very motivated to go on until Yayaka smacked some sense into her.
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>>151312246
>>151312255
>>151312223

I understand all your different perspectives, but I honestly think it could have been best if there was enough time for Papika exposition for her to have an arc like this:

> Episode 1+2 "Cocona is fun!"
> Episode 3+4 "I love love LOVE her!"
> Episode 5,6,7 "But wait....do I love her romantically?" Something occurs "Yes I think I do!"
> Episode 7-9 "Mimi....who is this, why do I keep getting flashes of this....other life"
> Episode 10-11"I remember everything now.....Who am I? Papikana, or Papika?"
> Episode 11 and 12 "Do I still love Cocona? I do, but how do I love her? Do I love her as family, or as a lover?"


Then have the ultimate conclusion to that question finish her character arc in the finale.

If this arc had been a thing in roughly this way since the start, then it would have added so much. Whether the answer is yuri or platonic, it would have added so much more to the show.
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>>151312444
Damn Mimi sure is a fucked up bitch.
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>>151312506
>romantically
Why are lots of people so obsessed with it?
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>>151312506
It could work like that. I'm not even a yurihater, it's just that Papika's character now is far too childish for considering romance, even in her 20s in the flashback.
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>>151295133
This comic needs a translation
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>>151312563
Shipping has to be some kind of primal instinct.

>Hey look, she is all clingy like a retarded puppy
Must want to bang her!
>Look, she is her surrogate father
Must want to bang her! Etc.
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>>151312586
>Thank the sakkan of mob psycho 100 for his help with ep 12!
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>>151312586
They're asking Mob to color in keyframes. Mob says he can't draw well and Papika says that there are a bunch more over there.
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>>151312506
But that's pretty much what happened, you only saw it from Cocona's perspective until Cocona gave up in episode 10 and after that it's implied.

Like niggas always rag on how the storytelling is "less subtle" now because they're feeling the writer change, but then they go and complain about how they're not directly getting told enough about what Papika thinks.
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>Green Pure
>Kicks energy balls

wtf i love yayaka now
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>>151312563
because the wedding symbolism has been over the top. they love each other in a romantic way
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>>151312526
Who made this, it isn't futanon
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>>151312563
>Lots of physical intimacy
>Hand holding
>several scenes of her touching/feeling up cocona
>sniffing and smelling cocona
>multiple scenes of them nude together
>Sleeping together
>"I love love LOVE you!"
>Wedding dress henshin.
>Episode 7

Oh gee, I wonder why.
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>>151312708
I think you meant to quote the post below and it's https://twitter.com/relaxed75
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>>151312657
I just feel like we should have gotten a bit more of that from Papika's perspective, thats all.
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>>151312739
We're talking about a girl who sleeps naked in a ball pit, anon. And she sniffs literally everything.
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>>151311390
Wasn't it episode 9?
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>>151312535
Who made this, it isn't on futanon's tumblr
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Sayuri was CUTE this episode! C U T E
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I'm prolly kinda late to the party but holy shit the OP song is great

Anyone know other songs with similar vibes?
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11942050
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>>151312868
Houkago no Pleiades
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>>151312739
Papika's love for Cocona isn't confirmed as something other than her childish words. Surely she is already singularly devoted to Cocona alone with all her life, which is surely romantic if not for the mess when there hasn't been any backstory to validate her feelings as authentic to the extent age gap pedo memes are shitposted to death. We dogfags want the backstory such that the love gets confirmed as genuinely romantic.
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>>151312868
Kill la Kill OP 2 gives me similar vibes.
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>>151312941
Hey, dont get too mad. I am a dogfag to, and I want the backstory/character development just as badly as you. I was the one who made this post: >>151312506
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At this point in the series I've heard the words daisuki thrown around si many times that they've lost all meaning. They're going to need to pull an aishiteru in the final episode or else their love is just gonna come across as an awkwardly touchy friendship.
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>>151313067
Not really. Papika's action already speaks louder. It's just her action is being misconstrued as pedo love or motherly love. Once the backstory sets in and her motivation reveals, all previous meaningless confessions will be recontextualized, I hope.
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>>151313067
Yeah, me and my bros constantly yell how much we love love love LOVE each other while holding hands before our symbolic weddings. Just friendship.
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>>151312941
>age gap pedo memes are shitposted to death
Telling it like it is is not the same thing as memeshitposting.
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>>151313211
Is that before or after you play Smash in love hotels?
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>>151313211
If you don't you need better bros to be quite honest with you
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>>151313211
One time I got drunk and went hugging all my friends who drank with me and telling how I love them (no homo tho). So it's plausible.
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>>151313244
Okay seriously what is this smash bros thing from? I feel like I've missed a joke
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Why this show attract shitposters and yuri baiters? Why not just let us have our one good anime of the year and fuck off.

>inb4 not even top 3
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>>151313297
Animation, sadly
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>>151313222
They're also funny as hell. There's a difference between humour and shitposting.
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>>151313286
It's from a thread after episode 7. One anon asked what Papina meant by "Let's do something fun."
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>>151313297
why does this...*
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spooky
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>>151313297
every mildly popular show merits the same comment, you are not special. please drop the youtube commenter complex
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>>151298791
That explains this.
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>>151312150
>her character is relatively complex
No it is not. Her situation is complicated, but Papika is a very flat character. When she says X, she means X. She says she loves Cocona because she loves Cocona, despite being her aunt. It's fucking creepy, but do remember that this anime is Pure Fiction.
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>>151313244
We're too scrub for the love hotel tourney's. Keep it casual in a four post bed with curtains drawn and some soft candle lighting.
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>>151312127
You tell me.

>>151312236
Yes, she's a combat monkey. Glad we agree. But this show is primarily about characters and relationships. The chuuni battles are secondary.

As for Papika you forget she was actually looking for Salt before breaking down but he had already booked it.

Her board was broken, she didn't know where Salt and the others went, she had no way of chasing Cocomimi to PI, and as far as she knew Cocona really did want nothing to do with her. What exactly would you have had her do in that moment? She had literally zero options, and it wasn't until absolutely everything had been ripped away from her that Papika broke. Much better then Yayaka's breakdown in ep9 where all her despair was self-inflicted.

Yayaka's appearance gave Papika options and new information, and she recovered quickly once there was actually something she could do.
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>>151313374
His Cocona is cute on this picture.
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>>151313297
>two female main characters
>ambiguously intimate subtext
>magical adventures
>sakuga battle action
>popular on /a/
It naturally attracted all of the dedicated shitposters that regularly target madoka, nanoha and other similar series. It was inevitable from the beginning that they'd flock here as soon as their was enough of an audience for them to do their song and dance.
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Papika will not be by Cocona's side by the time things come to an end. You guys should accept this now before it's too late.
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>>151313463
I never see any shitposters of this caliber in Nanoha threads, though.
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>>151313389
papika being a flat character worked for the show at the start because it was all about cocona. you don't need to develop every character for them to mean something to the one you're focusing on;

now that the show is some clusterfuck told from an omniscient perspective that jumps around mindlessly the fact that papika is a non-character harms the emotional impact of any scene that involves her.
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>>151313482
It's acceptable as long as her character is fulfilled.
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>>151313502
Nanoha is explicitly yuri, isn't it? Nothing to shitpost about.
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Yukyusukyuru will save the day!
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>>151313286
I found the post: >>150104408
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>>151313548
>uexkull is coming back but not Pops
DROPPED
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>>151313529
>Living together raising a kid
>Characters and the staff joke about them being wife and wife
>Still not allowed to be explicitly in lesbians with one another
Sasuga Japan.
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>>151313067
Have there been any daisukis aside from CocoPapi's?
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>>151313656
Yayaka used it when she said she loved being at Cocona's side.
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>>151313517
Not him, but this was very well put.
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>>151313676
Begonias confirm daisukis are romantic then.
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Does anyone else think it's weird Papikana is a cake in a child's body and is lusting over a girl a decade her senior and getting off on her scent?
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>>151313517
>Papika
>non character

She's Peter Pan, full of excitement and kindness for everything around her. She's there to make life fun for everyone else. She also has changed a lot from episode to episode. Don't see how she's a non character at all.
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>>151313778
Why would that be weird? There must be something wrong with you.
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>>151313778
Papika got fucked by Mimi into a toddler. She was a victim too and she no longer has the capacity to act as a cake. This relieves her of pedo suspicion.
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>>151313778
No, but it destroys any hope for a romantic resolution.
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>>151313778
No. Also Cocona is the most lustful.
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>everyone mad at episode 11 and 10 for being all plot and no action and adventure

>Episode 12 comes out, very little plot, almost entirely action and adventure

>/a/ reacts by complaining that they didn't get their backstory

Holy shit, could you fags being any more tsun towards this show?
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>>151313778
>Does anyone else think it's weird
The entire anime is about acid trip, at this point I can no longer tell what is weird.
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>>151313778
>is lusting over a girl a decade her senior
What?
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>>151313864
You are actually referring to two distinct groups no wonder you observe personality disassociation
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>>151313778
More like Papika is a child who suddenly gets the memories of a past life where she was a cake that had a connection to important characters and events a little over a decade ago. This past life was "papikana".
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>>151313864
>I'll pick out only the posts that complain about each episode
>That'll show /a/ that people have different opinions
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>>151313804
>She's Peter Pan, full of excitement and kindness for everything around her
that's a basic personality, flat characters have those. examples: obi-wan from a new hope, haruko from flcl.

>She also has changed a lot from episode to episode
the only time the show meaningfully focused on her and conveyed change was episode 2. nothing after that gives her focus or creates character growth in any concrete way, you might be projecting your own thoughts onto the show instead of drawing from evidence.
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>>151313933
I think this line of hers "I'm not Papikana you know" confirms she has put an end to her past identity, with legit reasons
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>>151313860
In a year or two when Cocona's sex drive kicks into overdrive there's no place in reality or Pure Illusion where Papika will be safe.
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Y(OOOOO Episode 13 just confirmed to be a 60 minute long MEGA EPISODE.


PREPARE YOURSELVES
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>>151314029
Hey, that's long enough to save this series
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>>151314029
>to be animated in 168 hours
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>>151314029
Confirmed where?
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>>151311725
>11 is honestly my favorite episode
Not going this far, but I felt that this episode was underappreciated. Nice to see that someone likes it as well. The showdown between Mimi and Salt with the build-up of the flashbacks will be one of my favorite things of this show.
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>>151314029
Kill yourself
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>>151314029
>airing in 2 months
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>>151313975
She picks up cues on how and how not to act and speak every episode. She's a completely different person in episode 7 than she is in 2.

>the character that has the most influence on every other character is a non character because her changes are subtle and her personality is too basic for me
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>>151313990
That's not what she said. She just told Salt "I'm called Papika now" in response to him calling her Papikana.
>>
I like how the show has minimum special effects and focuses a great deal on animation itself. The only special effect I can see is a small amount of vignetting and subtle bloom in a very few select romantic scenes. Compare that too the insane amount of bloom in Hibike or eyesore level chromatic aberration in Girllish #.
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>>151299207
>>151302402
I noticed it immediately (and that Bu-chan was singing along) but couldn't remember the name.
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>>151312915
>nobody voting Uexküll
Awesome.
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>>151314029
Holy shit I unironically thought of spreading this same shit here but I thought no one would believe it
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>>151314029
>these madmen love eva as fuck so they ought to give us an eoff
rational
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>>151314029
Thats a big ((you))
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>>151314259
Different stylistic approaches.
Eupho, along with most recent kyoani works, are imitating live action cinema and use digital post-processing techniques to imitate lens distortion and lighting effects only possible when you have an actual camera filming a shot.

Girlish# focuses heavily on stylized stills and closeups over motion and uses editing tricks to create the illusion of depth when there's no character movement to convey it.
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>>151314085
Same here. The only thing wrong with 11 is the composition and animation quality which were significantly worse compared to earlier episodes.
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>>151314354
thanks, to be honest I only shit post it because its the dream- its what I want to happen.
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>>151314085
>>151311725
Agreed, Episode 11 was great for me.
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>>151314537
>Yayaka
>dog
what an abomination
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>next episode already confirms we'll get Papika's backstory and how she came to meet and love Cocona due to PI fuckery by Mimi
>BUT WHERE IS THE BACKSTORY
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so they have 20 minutes left to wrap up the series. How are they gonna do it?

I think a traditional fight is out of the question now, the only way to wrap this up while having a satisfying narrative is to make the "fight" be emotional DPI stuff.
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>>151314644
Salt will go to PI and convince Mimi to stop. That's the only thing I'm sure of.
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>>151314622
>saving it for the final episode
>the final 20 minutes.
>competing with screen time with final boss, Salt DPI shenanigans, and whatever ending or conclusion they are going to give us
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>>151314622
>>BUT WHERE IS THE BACKSTORY
More like WHERE IS THE NEXT EPISODE.
just can't wait
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>>151314622
I do wish we had gotten some more Papika story earlier on. I agree with the anon saying we needed to understand more of her motivation/how her brain works.
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>>151314644
>so they have 20 minutes left to wrap up the series. How are they gonna do it?
Pretty shoddily, we can be sure of that much.
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>flifla is almost over

i cant deal with this
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>>151314792
Nothing to look forward to next season either besides LWA.
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>>151314622
Papika was a mistake.
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>>151314792
I hate this.
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>>151314792
I'm just happy the ride is over soon, came for the tripy adventures but stayed because the girls are too cute.
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>>151314644
>First 2 minutes: transition from brofist to a bit of a meatier love confession, interrupted by Evil Mimi.

>Next 2 minutes- sasuga fight against evil Mimi, interrupted by SALT, who is going into DPI to destroy PI itself

>PI starts collapsing on itself

>DPI stuff everywhere, flashbacks, Papika backstory, PI backstory

>Cocona and Papika heart to heart

>Demon Lizard Mimi shows up, final fight

>escape from PI, echoing flashback from earlier episode (its like poetry)

>escaped from PI, now have about 4-6 minutes left of screen time to close things down with a proper ending.
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>>151315045
This sounds good.
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>>151315150
This actually sounds awful, especially the demon lizard mimi part.
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>>151315176
demon lizard mimi was confirmed in the PV though, its the only reason I even mentioned it.
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>>151315271
It's still awful. I hope PV is misleading.
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