They're here

Zen-Chan are going to be the final boss?

judging from the pic everyone seems to have normal hands
interesting

>>151182252
He is a nice person, he wouldn't do that.

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THE BIG GETE STAR ENABLED ME TO CHEAT DEATH!

trash post, you need to type "Dragon Ball Super" into the title newbie.

>>151182217
>kaio with a prism head
what

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Part of the new Opening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H567uuR0y8Q&t=0m50s

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>>151182271
He deleted 6 universes in a tantrum. Future Zen-Oh deleted Zamasu´s universe because he was annoying.

>>151182217
Who?

>>151182341
are you missing an eye or something?
what are you talking about?

>>151182391
He didn't destroy the universe just Earth. And I'm sure he had a good reason for those other universe to go.

>>151182421
according to Toei's official timeline on their website he destroyed the Universe.

>>151182420
anon is talking about third Kai on the left with a cone hat.

>>151182440
Well that makes fuck all sense because Goku time warped back to grab him. He couldn't go back to a nonexistant universe. And Zeno specifically says "A planet like this must be destroyed"

>>151182467
>And Zeno specifically says "A planet like this must be destroyed"
he said "a world like this must be destroyed" and there's no explanation for the void that he was floating in.

>>151182466
Thats a GoD

>>151182466
so he doesn't know how to count
got it

>>151182485
okay but those are synonyms. I think the more reasonable explanation is toei got some shit wrong again. I guess we'll see if Universe 10 shows for the tournament

>>151182497
Quit being a cunt.

>>151182492
yep you're right, I simply said Kai because anon did.

>>151182366
Lots of blood effects. It will be a death tournament or what?

>>151182421
>He didn't destroy the universe just Earth.

Watch the episode again

>>151182492
Its connected to a black robe = kaio

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Reminder that Blackfags will never, ever recover.

>>151182578
to me it looks like the black robes belong to the people beside the hat person.
Besides, the hats belong to the GoDs.

>>151182558
Well thats the one way for that ending to be complete nonsense. How can something that has been destroyed exist. Goku went back to the exact same place. That location shouldn't exist anymore if he destroyed the universe.

>>151182583
but what if this was all part of their master plan and Black somehow gets Rose next chapter?

>>151182623
It just means that everything in the universe was destroyed, it's still void you can move in, what's the problem?

>>151182217
>left 6 GoD
>right 4 GoD
>only 10 universes
THE PURGE HAS ALREADY BEGUN

>>151182644
Anime Black was pretty obvious about getting beat up = getting stronger, i don't think manga mentioned it yet

>>151182583
Nah, he will get SSR next chapter. But it's still fun to see them getting mad because of this chapter.

>>151182661
Well then the Universe wasn't destroyed just its contents. It just can't make sense.

>>151182679
>I havent reached that form YET
>All to GAIN the ultimate body
>Black had to fight Trunks in SSJ but then stopped needing it at some point
cant be any less subtle than that

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>>151182583
>Manga Black being a boring jobber like all the other super manga villains having any bearing on the perfection that is anime Black
You are a funny guy.

>>151182679
>i don't think manga mentioned it yet
manga going to probably just rely on zenkai boosts from Kibito styled heals from Zamasu.

>>151182715
>that one queer Blackfag that can't stop RPing every day
It's time for you to seek help.

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>>151182388
Posted this last thread.
This moment is such a perfect match up of tense and silly that I love it. It's really the perfect way to end a tournament arc.

>>151182676
They are in pairs of Gods of Destruction in white and Gods of Creation in the darker color. There may even less o.O

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>>151182660
Why is goku such an idiot?

>>151182748
>Implying I am that guy
Scratch that you are hilarious.
I don't even know that was a thing.

>>151182798
you are him.
>"muh anime Black is perfection! xD"
You can't hide from us.

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>>151182825
yeah right anon.

>>151182715
The best part about Black is that fucking finally. FINALLY someone besides Goku beat the final arc boss.

>>151182330
>Toyo fans are the ones that like the anime-original content
lol

>>151182889
>The best part about Black is that fucking finally. FINALLY someone besides Goku beat the final arc boss.
it's just a parallel to Gohan getting all the attention in the original Cell arc.

>>151182686
>Well then the Universe wasn't destroyed just its contents

So basically the same

>>151182929
Gohan only got attention during the Cell games. Before that he didn't do shit during the arc.

>>151182943
Not really. The Universe is there still its just empty. Thats like saying you destroy an apartment complex when you move the furniture out.

>>151182514
Of course Universe 10 will be in the tournament. F. Zeno destroyed the multiverse in the future timeline, not anything in the present

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>>151182903
Everyone knows Toyofags love GT and SSJ4

>>151182977
the point is he got the final blow on the villain.

>>151182786
Punch drunk.

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>>151182765
>He's coming back for the Universal Tournament

I'm so fucking happy

>>151182559
Hol up. So is Vegeta's ssj2 stronger than Goku's ssj3 in the manga? Toranksu said that he was getting his ass handed to him by base Goku black, and it was stated that Trunk's ascended ssj2 was almost on par if not better than Goku's ssj3, but Vegetable's ssj2 was beating the shit out of ssj Bracku.

>>151183012
No you'd have to make a new term like "Toyblefags" or "AFfag".
Loving GT is a Toeishill trait considering it's TOEI's OC donut steel.

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>>151183008
Good point

>>151182977
>>151183016
Did someone besides Goku get the final blow there? I was pretty sure Gohan was about to lose until their magic family Kamehameha

>>151183055
>Toyblefags
Toyotaro and toyble are literally the same person.

>>151182999
The only difference is that Zeno didn't move anything, he destroyed it

>>151182623
I mean, that's why everything was shinning when he returned, rather than the usual black void with stars. It was a way to show a destroyed universe.

>>151183079
but the point i'm making is that this troll is using the term Toyopedros to label all mangafans. All mangafans aren't Toyblefans.

>>151183070
To be fair, Gohan and Goku AND Vegeta were the ones who defeated Cell

>>151183106
Then how did the time machine know where to go? That place should have ceased to exist. That void in it's place should be something totally different but it was in the same spot.

>>151183114
Even then what the fuck are you talking about did anyone mention mangafags?
I only spoke of toyofags.
Why are you so offended, nobody mentioned mangafags anywhere in that reply chain?
Seems to me that you are just a backpedaling toyofag.

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What if he moved to DBGT timeline?

>>151183275
He'd be at home with the rest of the garbage.

>>151183229
The location still exists. By your logic Zenou would have killed himself since EVERYTHING shoudl have ceased to exist.

>>151183156
I found amazing how at the beginning of the cell games Vegeta says they shouldn't give goku a senzu or help him, later goku says the same when Gohan is fighting, because mah saiyan honor and in the end the decided to go charging against Cell and attacking when he got distracted.

>>151183070
I think Father Son Kamehameha is more symbolic. When we see Goku talking to Gohan he's just got a hand on King Kai's back talking to him. But Goku is "metaphorically" assisting Gohan. He's coaching Gohan along with the blast, Pepping him up and making sure he puts everything into the blast.

I don't believe it's meant to be seen as literal.

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hi SeththeProgrammer here.
just wanted to tell you that the manga is fucking shite. keep watching the anime trust me its better.

>>151183263
this isn't backpedalling, I'm just trying to help your dumb troll post out which is all about labelling people. Toyopedro is your derogatory term of mangafans and has nothing to do with real Toyotaro fanboys.

>>151183275
>Rapes Baby, Super 17 and the shadow dragons at the same time with "muh rage of friendship"
>Becomes the Trunks Show

>>151183352
if you are a dragonball fan.
watch the anime.

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>>151182715

>non-canon Black is "perfection"

Who cares? Not even canon.

>>151183275
It becomes DBTT

>>151183312
fuck off bitch
you just butthurt black got fucked

>>151183366
With two of himself and two of his girlfriend, he's already got sitcom material

>>151183391
But the anime is primary canon lmao

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Reminder that the anime is literally, LITERALLY Toeishit filler who went against Toriyama's wishes and made bullshit edits and cuts to this arc.

Based Toyotaro is finishing Toriyama's vision in the -canon- version of Super in the manga.

Look forward to it!

>>151183284
I don't think Logic applies to Zeno, he is basically God. Not a god. God.

>>151183410
black manga's version makes no sense what so ever and if you are a dragonball fan you shoul stick with the manga.

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>>151183425
anime:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.

Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

Manga:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/11/30/dragon-ball-super-manga-collected-edition-vol-2-cover-art-toyotaro-comment/

Since it’s Akira Toriyama-sensei doing the original story, the manga has a slightly different approach than the TV anime, which results in a different kind of production. I hope you all enjoy that aspect of it

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>>151183292
It's pretty obvious Vegeta wanted to steal the kill like the asshole he is

>>151183425
Primary canon is the outline that Toriyama sends to both Toei and Toyotaro, everything else is just not canon.

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You're given the opportunity to rewrite Broly.

What would you do different?

>>151183478
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

Literally proclaiming right there that it isn't his work anymore in the anime. It's not his vision.

That's why he places himself in the role of a fan to watch it together with us.

Manga confirmed canon version after all.

>>151183478
>same boring interview

Do you have this on-hand, lmao???
Mangohans confirmed autistic
Anime primary canon confirmed

>>151183492
Primary canon is anime

>>151182279
How can this be!?

>>151183512
He wants to kill Vegeta, not Goku

Also he's a gentleman

Reminder:
>both the anime and manga are based loosely on Tori's lay-out
>equal footing
>Anime is more popular and is ahead, therefore supersedes

Until manga usurps it in BOTH popularity and plot-placement, you'll be second-fiddle ;)

>>151183533
>It was bait

You got me anon, I'll give you a 6/10

>>151183594
>both the anime and manga are based loosely on Tori's lay-out

Except it isn't, you fucktard. Toriyama directly works with Toyotaro as the writer counterpart to Toyotaro's art.

The anime has gone off on its own more than once, and Toriyama and friends are countering them with the new Shuesha studio.

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>>151182388
P E R S P E C T I V E

>>151183512
He isn't Bulk mode fail Saiyan. That proves that Broly is a fail.

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>>151183594
>Until manga usurps it in BOTH popularity and plot-placement, you'll be second-fiddle ;)
It doesn't matter what you think about it's popularity, the deed is already done.
Shueisha/Jump is the definitive franchise rights owner and they publicly stated that the manga is the original story overseen by Toriyama and that's why the next canon arc is going to be based off Toyotaro's storyboards.
It's win win really, the anime's quality will increase, and Toriyama's vision is seen through by his successor in both mediums.

>>151183632
>countering

Anon, you have no idea how this works, do you?

It's not a competition. The anime is the main product, everything else is promotional material. And even the anime is promotional material to sell toys and merchandise.

It's all a big toy commercial. These fucking retarded anime vs manga discussions are unnecessary as fuck.

>>151183700
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/


I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.

>>151183748

Toriyama confirmed for having disdain for the shitty anime. Confirmed for patrician taste.

Manga confirmed clearly canon and Toyotaro the true disciple of Akira.

>>151183750
Fuck you anon, I just finished fapping.

>>151183325
>Toyopedro is your derogatory term of mangafans and has nothing to do with real Toyotaro fanboys.
And then you suggest to call them toyblefags or AFfags, despite the fact that is literally another word for toyofags.
Also there was literally no mention of the manga whatsoever, only toyofags specifically.
You really are just talking out of your ass.

>>151183828
t. assblasted BTFO toyopedro.

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>>151183788
>>151183828
I got no idea what kinda gay shit you are talking about. I just like Dragon ball.

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Mangafans = true fans of Dragon Ball. It was common knowledge that the DBZ manga was canon and the anime was not. This continues into DB Super. Toriyama is working most closely with Toyotaro, that's obvious.

It seems that somewhere along the road, the animefaggots got cocky and started thinking their version was canon simply because it aired first and was earlier than the manga, which obviously took its time to properly present Super.

There aren't people out there proclaiming the DB anime as canon over the manga. Neither is that the case for Z. Superfaggots are just butthurt GT losers who are back with a vengeance.

Nothing more, nothing less.

>>151183292
Vegeta was the reason why Gohan was losing in the first place

>>151183919
>using a gif from the DBS anime
>from the GOAT scene which won't be in the manga considering it already skipped the part where Black tells Goku he killed his family

Toyopedros BTFO'd once again

>>151183919
>Mangafag talking shit about the anime using an anime gif.
Oh the irony.

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>>151183919
they're having their one last round of "epic trolling" before they become relics of the past with the upcoming canon arc. That's why their trolling has gone full retard mode.

>>151183919
You don't get it as long as Toriyama wrote the plot it's canon. Even if Toei does their little bitch creative control tampering they can't change the whole story. GT is noncanon because Toriyama didn't write any of it at all.

>>151183998
>You don't get it as long as Toriyama wrote the plot it's canon
If you were to compare the two clearly Toei's trash isn't as canon as his work with Toyotaro.

>>151183981

Pretty much. It's hilarious how all the animefags are now basing all their speculation off the manga image in the OP because the non-canon anime is still doing shitty filler.

>>151183981
>toei was closer to toriyamas vision than toybles draft
AYYYYYYYY

>>151184030
>What is filler
They are just padding it out like every anime ever to milk more episodes out of the source material.

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>>151183412
>DB with laugh tracks

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>>151184063
It's just going to be extra funny when the anime starts taking orders from Shueisha and Toyotaro.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/


Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
Toriyama: That’s right.


Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!

REMINDER THAT DB MINUS IS CANON OVER THE BARDOCK SPECIAL WHICH IS OVER A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER

>>151183632
>>151183684
Anime is primary canon.

>>151184202
>Anime is primary canon.
[citation needed]

>>151184030
>isn't as canon

There are no gradients of canon.
It's either canon or it isn't.
They're both views on the same overall work.

>>151184220
In OPM anime he references meeting Vegeta in the manga. therefore they are one and the same.

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>>151184242
Even I haven't checked the final script of the Anime, let's enjoy this together (laughs)!!

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>>151184202

>if I say it enough times, maybe it will become true!

>>151184286
So?
Toriyama's attachment/detachment from the product doesn't equate canon, if it's an adaption of what came from his mouth, and it's officially recognized, it's canon whether he scrutinized every panel, or didn't even watch an episode.
Holy fuck you guys are too busy wrapped up in your shitposting wars to even grasp basic logic.

>>151184335
>Toriyama's attachment/detachment from the product doesn't equate canon
FULL DAMAGE CONTROL MODE ENGAGED.

>>151184335
Only mangafags ever say anime is noncanon. They need to feel special cause they looked at book pictures instead of screen ones.

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>>151184358
Damage control for what?
I'm stating the most basic shit in the world and you're having an imaginary one-sided shitflinging war with a boogeyman.
You niggas are off the deep-end.

REMINDER THAT DB MINUS IS CANON OVER THE VASTLY SUPERIOR BARDOCK SPECIAL

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>>151184454
>"It's shit! xD"
yeah you sure showed us.

>>151184491
based Toei does it again
Cuckotaro takes yet another L

Anime version of Dragon Ball has never been canon.

Will never be canon.

Get over it already.

>>151184491
>Toei understands that Toriyama's concepts are shit
>back-handedly mock them to BTFO of Cuckiyama

>Toyocuck is a fanfiction autist who eats Cuckiyama's shit for lunch
>honors his word in the manga
>it's terrible, zero memes

>>151184533
>Resurrection F doesn't exist in the manga, meaning that either the anime or the movie version is canon

KEKTAROFAGGOTS BTFO'D ONCE AGAIN

>>151184533
Are you buying them? It would make more sense your need to justify it as something more special.

>>151184533
This Toyopedro is on SUICIDE WATCH
Cuckotaro is too poor to afford the ink to make RoF canon
TOEI DOES IT ONCE AGAIN
H O W

Oh my fucking god. Can we go one thread without the Manga vs. Anime bullshit.
Go on reddit if you wanna bitch about which adapts which better, jesus christ.

>>151184570
>>151184589
>>151184597

Sperging out isn't going to make the anime canon lol.

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>>151182217
I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-book-version/

>>151184607
>Go on reddit if you wanna bitch about which adapts which better

We're not bitching about which does what better
The anime stomps out the manga
Us Toeichads are simply ripping Toyopedros to pieces, as is customary for the alphas to dominate the betas.

>>151184639

Based Toyotaro the true disciple of Akira and the artist of the canon version of Super.

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>>151184632
>>151184639
>Toyopedros can't read
>Toyopedros this assblasted that they're the secondary canon

Toei keeps putting these bois in the dirt
they can't keep getting away with this

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>>151183684
>Akira Toriyama, the original author, commented that, “I was wanting to keep this old series alive and kicking even in the modern day with help from Shueisha’s excellent staff, so for me this team is dependable and a real godsend. It’d really be great if this way I won’t have to do anything!!!!”

> “I was wanting to keep this old series alive and kicking even in the modern day with help from Shueisha’s excellent staff
>no mention of Toei whatsoever
JUST

>>151184696
Yeah I mean since the OTC is BotG and the anime is based off of that and Toriyama is just supervising the manga. The manga is more like GT than the anime.

>>151184726
Based Toei don't even need to be mentioned because those niggas are tighter than tight
#WolfPack
#CuckotaroBuysTheDrinks

>>151184725
K E K

>>151184765
>DBS Manga is GT
>DBS Anime is the true canon

Can't make this shit up.
Feels so good to be a Toeichad

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>>151184768
>Toei gets publically humiliated in the 30th year anniversary databook
How can you even recover after this?

>>151184805
Holy fuck based Toei reinvigorated Toriyama's passion for the series
If it weren't for Toei Toriyama would have let based DB die and never even given the concept of DBSuper life
Toei has superseded canon

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>tfw DB Super manga is the canon version

feels good man

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>>151184839
Based Toei does it again

>>151184844
>posts a retrace

Toyopedro blowing himself to kingdom come
Toeichads win once more, take another L

How do you fuckers not get tired of doing this shit every single thread

It's not entertaining, nothing gets accomplished, it's just a waste of time

Yet you still do this dumb bullshit constantly

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>>151184725
What did Toycuck mean by this?

>>151184839
Toei is a close runner up right behind Dragon Ball Evolution.

>>151184903
>Toy-no-chinno is just trying to make his fanfiction wanking a reality

DBS Manga literally confirmed fanfiction

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Feels good that based Trunks isn't pathetic in the canon manga.

>>151184939
I remember another set of fanfic that Toriyama endorsed but didn't write. hmm what was that called again?

Oh yeah GT.

>>151184882
let the Toeishills have their last chance at trollling.
They will be extinct/working for Toyotaro come the next canon arc.

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You guys are really making One Piece threads look like paradise.

>>151184882
You think if we start reporting the retards, the mods will do something about this?

This shit is just spam at this point.

>>151184964
>Goku literally told him this chapter to fuck off because he would only get hurt.
>Not useless.
You are so delusional.

>>151183919
>the DBZ manga
> DBZ

>>151184982
At which point it will actually become noncanon

>>151185034
Trunks was useless at this point in the anime too.

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>>151184768
Godfucking damnit anon my sides.

>>151185108
Nah trunks actually fought evenly with SSR Black

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>>151185108
Ofcourse anon.

>>151185160
>defending Gary Stue
I seriously hope you don't resort this low.

Who the fuck let these samefags in?

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>>151185206
>172 posts
>33 posters
Oh god what have I become.

>>151185187

>that shitty animation

god the anime is pure garbage

>>151185275
you think this is bad? This is known as the best of the arc besides the 30seconds of Vegito or the 30 seconds of Vegeta beating up Black.

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>>151185187
>Hardly shaded
Fuck yourself

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I really want to see a episode where we see how trunks saved his future timeline.

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Let's talk about Waifus. Because that seems like a better use of our time than...this bullshit.

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>>151185356
I'd rather see a real Babidi Flashback.

>>151185383
Suno>Chichi

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After the hardship that is this tournament, Vegeta will likely fuck Bloomer's brains out and end up with his daughter. It all comes full circle.

>>151185479
a year already passed after pans bird, there isnt going to be a bra

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>>151185479
I hope so.

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How did Chi Chi get Goku to have sex?

>>151185499
You realize a year isn't necessarily 12 months even, right?

>>151185542
She told him it was training and that he'd eat a lot of food afterwards.

>>151185542
Im sure it didin't take much convincing after she played with his cock a little and showed him how good it feels.

>>151185505
Even to this day, his sleeveless onesies is Vegeta's best outfit
>>151185542
sleeping pills and lots of viagra

>>151185589
>Even to this day, his sleeveless onesies is Vegeta's best outfit
agreed.

>>151182217
>That one samefagging Toeishill gets reported and banned
>thread becomes a peaceful haven with no shitposting
we're going to need a nickname for him.

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>>151185542
She didn't. At least not the first time around.

>>151185754
Actually the one who made all the good points was me and I'm still here. Don't think you can pipe up and start your shit again.

>>151184030
>isnt as canon

take a second and reread what you just said. the shit is canon or it's not, toriyama WROTE the fucking plot for DBS, regardless of whether it is the anime or the manga.

it doesn't make sense to say one is more canon than the other...

>>151185857
see
>>151183478

>>151185754
If he was banned, good. But please don't start shit again. Also by "giving him a nickname", you're already giving him too much attention.

>>151185820
>Actually the one who made all the good points
>good points
name one

>>151185808
Explain SSJ then

>>151185941
The fact that BotG is OTC and the anime is a direct continuation of it.

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>>151182366

Using that god tier Beerus OST to hype us up. They know exactly what they are doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umi-hGsdYbo

Sometimes manga is better

Sometimes anime is better

It's not that hard to understand, can we please move on?

>>151186026
>OTC
what does OTC stand for?

>>151182217
So are ALL the Gods of Destruction Egyptian Cats?
The way that Whis asked Goku if he'd like to be the next God of Destruction implied that mortals had ascended to the position before.

>>151186073
One True Canon

>>151186073
Only tremendous cucks
i.e, the manga reader-base

>>151182271
>Genocidal monster that destroys entire universes on a whim
>Nice

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>>151185808
>implying Chi Chi would let Yamcha even touch her

I know alot of people look past it, but Chi Chi is one of the biggest Gokufags ever. While their relationship is pretty much a long running gag, she genuinely does love him and he at the very least cares greatly about her.

>>151186088
only two are revealed and those cats are Beerus and Champa.

>>151186088

We can't really see what they look like. Also, I think Universe 6&7 are mirror universes which is why Beerus and Champa are nearly identical. Other universes might have different looking Gods.

>Doggo God of Destruction to balance out the cats.

>>151186125
Are you saying Goku isn't a good judge of character?

>>151186088
Best-case is they're just incredibly powerful mortals who surpassed the former GoD's.
Beerus and Champa are just ridiculously OP members of some alien Cat-race that originated in Universe 6 and 7 that became strong enough to elevate to the position.
This way we could put those posts in a state of flux, maybe even swap one out, make an arc's villain aim to become GoD as a goal, and get a whole array of cool designs.

>>151185542
She probably showed him what married couples are supposed to do in one of her books.

>>151186174
Whis offered the job to Goku if Beerus ever died so it seems it doesn't have to be a cat guy

>>151186152
Yes, that's been obvious since the Original Dragon Ball.

>>151186129
After Goku died, she had 8 years and she didn't even try to remarry. She'd probably never date anyone that's not Goku.

>>151182217
predictions?

>alternate universe radditz/nappa

>>151186175
Goku didn't even think it was weird to grab peoples genitals. It;s not like he would freak out if Chichi grabbed his dick

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>>151186038
>0:24 - 0:25

I can't be the only one.

>>151186198
I still personally bet that Super ends with a big Goku/Beerus fight and him possibly becoming the U7 GoD.
Maybe Vegeta for U6. It would mirror the dynamic Beerus/Champa have, as closely-bonded rivals becoming the GoD's for a universe.
Also Vegeta has some ties to U6 through Cabba and the Saiyans, so taking the mantle of the ruler of a more peaceful race of Saiyans after reforming his character since the beginning of Z seems like the most fitting end possible.
All of that actually makes much more sense that I first though. This shit's going to happen, isn't it?

>>151186026
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/bog-official-movie-guide-akira-toriyama/
>First of all, please tell us the circumstances around your first hearing about the new movie.

>I think it was around 2011? It all started when I came to Tokyo, and my first editor, Torishima-san, suddenly handed me the scenario and said, “read this!”… I guess? At that time I had no idea what it was, and when I asked Torishima-san what the scenario was for, I heard for the first time about how it was going to be made into an animated movie. (laughs)
He's not even the main script writer for the movie, screenplay was by Yūsuke Watanabe.
If you read more into this interview it actually reveals that certain plot elements predates the overhauls that Toriyama wrote in. (such as the 6 saiyan ritual to birth a god)

>>151186207
How come he befriended every enemy and killed the ones he knew he couldn't?

>>151186254

fucking Howard Dean the inspiration for Zamasu. I can see this.

>I LOST THE ELECTION AND BECAME A LAUGHING STOCK
>REEEEE NINGEN.

>>151182217
So, which of the 2 Zenos is in charge? What happens if they ever get into an argument or disagree about something?

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New GoD revealed

>>151186288
Daishinkan is who's really pulling the strings.

>>151186263
Yeah but Toriyama changed it until he was satisfied. It is the direct mental product of Toriyama and therefore OTC.

>>151186272
>How come he befriended every enemy and killed the ones he knew he couldn't?
That was never his rationale for which enemies he killed and which he didn't.

>>151186291
An anubis could be a great contrast to Beerus/Champa.

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>>151186291

Holy fuck that's bad.

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>>151186291
>OC angel's face
Everytime.

>>151186308
>It is the direct mental product of Toriyama and therefore OTC.
this is your head canon. RoF could be considered "OTC" but not BoG.

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>>151186213
Unlike Bulma Chi Chi is very old fashioned. If Vegeta was gone for good, Bulma would probably eventually find a new man. Chi Chi on the other hand only has eyes for Goku and would never remarry or find a new man.

>>151186337
Is this real

>>151186312
Zeno isn't evil. He would only destroy a universe if it was fucked beyond redemption. He wants to make friends that not evil.

Does Vegeta ever feel bad for all the civilisations he's destroyed ?

>>151186288
>What happens if they ever get into an argument or disagree about something?
They get into a fight and the universe is doomed

>>151186291
>spic fanbase believes this kind of shit
>yfw you're a spic
>you have to deal with this kind of shit everytime

>>151183772
Toyotaro can't do Toriyama style manga. He's just an imitator.

Youngjiji tho could perfectly emulate it if he wanted.

>>151186352
They both are. RoF wouldn't have happened if Toriyama didn't rewrite BotG. Beerus was meant to be defeated as a one shot licensed movie villain. Toriyama turned him into a whole new series.

>>151186412
>He would only destroy a universe if it was fucked beyond redemption
Whis outright said that Zeno destroyed 6 entire universes on a whim.

>>151186026
But the anime changed/didn't include some important stuff that was in the movie.

>>151186341
It's made for clickbait videos, he doesn't care about details

>>151183054

Late to the party but Zamasu is a genius fighter, for a kaio. And he's using Goku's body, who is a fighting genius too, its safe to assume that Black got used to Trunks fightstyle, enough to toy with him in base form. Trunks did mention that he have seen Black in SSJ2 before, so in their first fights they probably clashed with similar powerlevels, until Black learned all the tricks.

Also Vegeta SSJ2 has always been stronger than Goku's, either by pure bruteforce or the still active majin boost.

>>151186461
Zeno viewed Zamasu as annoying. Beerus said he would destroy a universe if it annoyed him. So an evil entity taking over the universe is a whim to Zeno.

>>151182217
I assume that they'll have some of the other GoD be weaker than Beerus and Champa so that Goku can get his first win against a GoD.

>>151186448
>They both are. RoF wouldn't have happened if Toriyama didn't rewrite BotG
That's besides the point, you are arguing that the movie is the definitive canon or some shit even though some no body wrote the script which is a ripoff of Dragon Ball AF by Toyble.
The ripoff replaced Xicor with Beerus, and then Toriyama replaced the crocodile with his cat etc.
There's clearly plot elements that predate his rewriting and he clearly states he left a lot to the animation team.

>>151186443
>jiji

Isn't that the one who made an AF manga copypasting pages from the original?

>>151186443
>Young Jiji
>literally the copy pasta tracer that can only do 80's TA's sameface for every single picture
yeah okay buddy.

>>151186535
I highly doubt all 6 of those universes were taken over by an evil entity that shed its physical body to become one with the universe. Whis wouldn't consider that a whim.

>>151186557
It doesn't matter what he left in. He decided those parts were good enough which makes them Toriyama approved 1st hand. Toryiama made Whis and Beerus gag characters. They were meant to be named after diseases and be just straight dicks like Broly or something. By making them so light hearted he changed everything.

>>151186609
Maybe not that exact thing but we don't know what happened in those universes, and Whis seems to have limited knowledge of what happens in other universes. They just know he could if he wanted. But he is nice he likes Goku, they are besties.

>>151186366
I bet Bulma didn't even marry Vegeta

>>151186647
just because he changed the story elements doesn't somehow magically make the movie the definitive canon. You are delusional if you think so.

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>>151186341
What about it?

>>151186696
Now that I think about it, we don't actually have any confirmation that they're legally married.

>>151186699
OTC is whatver Toriyama is direclty involved in secondary canon is based off Toriyama but trusted to someone else, and noncanon is something Toriyama endoresed as an alternate storyline like GT, or filler which Toei puts in.

>>151186647
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/battle-gods-animanga-akira-toriyama/
>Why did you go with the concept of “6 Saiyans”?
>To be perfectly frank, as a story concept, it was just a convenient number for the author.
Right here he refers to the author as a third person, instantaneously nullifying your claim that somehow this Toei movie is the definitive canon of the events just because Toriyama worked on it.

>>151186696
They did eventually get married, but not until after the Cell games.

>>151186761
Vegeta kisses her though. What a sweet little prince.

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>>151186764
>OTC is whatver Toriyama is direclty involved in

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/11/30/dragon-ball-super-manga-collected-edition-vol-2-cover-art-toyotaro-comment/

>>151186784
And Tights didn't bother going.

>>151186777
You just don't get it. Toriyama created DB canon, it is automatically canon if he says it is.

>>151186834
Death of the Author

>>151186443
The other way around. Toyo even in his younger years had a better understanding of panel and composition than most AF artists, but he is still learning and Toriyama gave him advices about that. Toyotaro is weak when it comes to fighting choreographies, and still has a lot to improve. But according to Toriyama, he is the one closer to his style.

Jijii in the other hand relied to much on tracing and his composition wasn't the best. I remember the scene where ssj5 Gohan kills Ize with a Kamehameha and the scene is obviously taken from the panels of Goku defeating freezer, but Ize is suppose to be in the sky and because of the wrong use of panels, he looks like if he was being attacked from above.

Young art also evolved in a completely different direction.

>>151186817
Dude you just proved yourself wrong. It says right there Toriyama wrote the story for the anime and entrusted the manga to Toyotaro.

>>151186834
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/09/30/dragon-ball-xenoverse-2-collectors-edition-to-include-bonus-toyotaro-manga/

“A message from Akira Toriyama”
I’ve been drawing manga less often these days, so Toyotaro has has taken up the mantle of drawing Dragon Ball. I still contribute the basic ideas, but Toyotaro’s wonderful skills allow the Dragon Ball universe to be brought back to life in the present.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/10/14/shueisha-establishes-new-dragon-ball-room-initiative-support-future-content/

The announcement was made at Shueisha’s new publication planning presentation held in Tokyo on the 12th. Although the Dragon Ball Room falls under the umbrella of the rights division, its section chief Akio Iyoku also serves as editor-in-chief of V-Jump, where the Dragon Ball Super manga (the original story of which is overseen by Toriyama) is serialized. Iyoku says that, “in practical terms you can think of it as handling both the rights and editing. It’s a new experiment to have a department that only thinks about Dragon Ball.”

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/
I’m really grateful to you. I never thought an artist like you would come along to draw the continuation of my story!

>>151186879
No it says that Toriyama writes a story which then both the manga and the anime adapt in their own way

>>151186879
no he's referring to the manga as the original script ya dingus.
this is what he said about the Trunks Arc:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.

Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.

Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!

>>151186888
See that word "continuation" that means secondary canon.

>>151182217
I wonder if the Kaioshin of other universes are as strong as/stronger than Zamasu and not fodder like the U7 Kai.

>>151186846
Not in this case. Toriyama still has the last word and whatever we want doesn't matter. It matter what he wants.

>>151186928
(You)

>>151186918
>Episodes
He is talking about the anime and saying they add filler to make more episodes. Not news.

>>151186968
that quote is direct evidence he wasn't very involved in the final product of the anime's continuity.
He literally says "even I haven't checked the final script, let's enjoy this together (laughs)!!"

>>151186817
>>151186879
Based anime
PRIMARY
CANON

>>151187010
Man you are thick. He is saying he hasn't seen what filler they have added. He wrote the main storyline, and they add some random shit to push for time. Thats how anime works.

>>151187017
He's talking about the manga dipshit.

>>151187048
it's more than just about random filler and padding, it's direct evidence that the manga is closer to his vision than the anime. This is common sense you mongoloid.

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>>151186337
SSB Kaiokek x10

>>151187061
All those manga episodes, that scriptwriters (for voice actors) edited.

>>151187101
literally what?

>>151187123
You don't know what a script or an episode is? I guess that explains the confusion.

>>151182217
This reminds me of Bleach.

>>151187144
who are you quoting? The original post clearly doesn't use either of those terms.

>>151186888
Although the Dragon Ball Room falls under the umbrella of the rights division, its section chief Akio Iyoku also serves as editor-in-chief of V-Jump, where the Dragon Ball Super manga (the original story of which is overseen by Toriyama) is serialized. Iyoku says that, “in practical terms you can think of it as handling both the rights and editing. It’s a new experiment to have a department that only thinks about Dragon Ball.”

That says that an entire department was created to supervise the manga without Toriyama god damn can you even read?

>>151187256
Oh and by "Original story which is overseen by Toriyama" they are talking about the anime you thick fuck

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>>151187256
>That says that an entire department was created to supervise the manga without Toriyama god damn can you even read?
no this was to supervise the quality of the piss poor anime. Toriyama reviews the manga himself.

>>151187296
>Oh and by "Original story which is overseen by Toriyama" they are talking about the anime you thick fuck
Considering he doesn't even oversee the anime, you're fucking lying through your teeth. (laughs)!!

>learn about the DBs because your battle chimp employer was retarded enoug to not turn off his Scouter's voice recorder
>go to Namek
>give an ultimatum to the savages, either give up the shiny ball or die
>savages refuse to yield, apply violence
>at one village, savage actually has the nerve to destroy your Scouters
>wipe out all of them, you have to make an example
>battle chimp employer actually rebels againts you
>triggered.jpeg
>kills literally-who, one of your strongest soldiers
>kills Dodoria, your....tag-along guard, (idk dude he's an ant compared to you, how is he functioning as a body guard)
>your more useful bodyguard actually kills him
>turns out monkey has already stolen a DB, and you have no idea where he hid it
>"oh for fuck's sake"
>turns out he's alive, now you just need to heal him and interrogate him
>turns out leaving him paper weight was a bad idea, as he wrecks your ship and steals all your DBs
>supertriggered.jpeg
>he kills Zarbon but no worry here's the Ginyu Tokusentai
>t-they're doing homosexual poses but they're hyper competent desu!
>BTFO Vegeta and get all the DBs back
>turns out savages put on a password
>shit shit shit shit shit I killed them all
>find out some are still alive
>on the way, pass by child who'd later revive your enemies with some broken hax magic bullshit
>coerce savage into giving you the password
>turns out slugman has been tricking you all along and your chimp enemy already has the password
>YOUWONTESCAPEMYWRATH.jpeg
>by the time you reach the monkey, the dragon is gone and your shot at immortality is over

Did Freeza do anything wrong?

>>151187299
Well you are either fully in a delusional fantasy world of just baiting so heres your last (you)

>>151187296
where the Dragon Ball Super manga (the original story of which is overseen by Toriyama) is serialized.
IT CLEARLY FUCKING STATES THE MANGA IS SERIALIZED YOU DELUSIONAL RETARD.

>>151187336
He lost twice

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>>151187296
I highlighted a word so your dumb fucking ass can understand this basic shit.

>>151187373
DAmnit why is this person so dumb. The department that was created to serialize the manga is run by Akio Iyoku. Toriyama says himself he only contributed basic ideas and that he writes the main plot of the anime.

Anime OTC
Manga Questionably even secondary canon
END OF STORY

>>151187437
Fuck it, three times actually

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>>151187336
Well, if like most of the Dragon Ball universe you consider genocide to be no big deal, I guess not.

>>151187453
>Anime OTC
[citation needed]

>>151187453
>Akira Toriyama, the original author, commented that, “I was wanting to keep this old series alive and kicking even in the modern day with help from Shueisha’s excellent staff, so for me this team is dependable and a real godsend. It’d really be great if this way I won’t have to do anything!!!!”

Notice how he doesn't say a single word about the worthless peasants at Toei?

>>151187464
Why didn't Zamazu use that?

>>151187472
see
>>151186918
>>151186888
It's like I know he must be baiting because no one can be that stupid but it actually excites me that this proves the anime is OTC so I'm going along with it.

>>151187541
Both of those proved that the manga is overseen by Toriyama and is the primary canon now, get some fucking learning comprehension skills.

>>151187507
Yeah he was saying he probably won't have to do anything in the manga because their team is handling it. Furthur proving he basically has nothing to do with the manga

>>151187596
>Furthur proving he basically has nothing to do with the manga
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/


Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
Toriyama: That’s right.


Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!

>>151187596
>Furthur proving he basically has nothing to do with the manga
[citation needed]

>>151187464
>Giving that thing to a retard like Jaco

The Galactic King is a crazy motherfucker

>>151187596
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579


>It sounds like you have a pretty close working relationship with Akira Toriyama. He gives you the outline and you make changes. What is the most interesting thing about working with him?

Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking
-Toyotaro

>>151187299
>needing 150 years old senile man with alzheimer to point out just how retarded scaling in your drawing is

>hoping Toeishill will post a good comeback or a quotation from an interview
>he can't even because the animation director has been canned twice and is already on the third one.

>>151182388
WAIT WHAT IS THIS FUCKING REAL?

>>151187746
Scaling of Super Dragon Balls were brand new at that point you retard. At that point in time the manga was ahead of the anime.

>>151187696
So what you are saying is that Toriyama does the main plot of the anime edited by toei with filler, and the manga storyboards are done entirely be Toyotaru edited by Toriyama incase it didn't fit.

Basically the manga IS GT

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>Thing I like
>"Toriyama said it so it's canon, ok?"
>Thing I don't like
>"Well obviously he's senile so he doesn't know what he's doing"

>>151187796
>Basically the anime IS GT
Yes it is, thank you for fucking putting basic Toei trash 2 and 2 together you retard.

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>>151183908
>82x124

>>151186061
Nope.

If the manga was weekly it would probably be better overall, but since it isn't they are about the same.

>>151187819
Right well it was productive. Now any non baiting manga fags know beyond a shadow of a doubt the anime is OTC.

>>151187784
That's not even the fucking issue there you dumb toyoshill.

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>>151183908
Anon, here.
And don't ever let me see you do that again.

>>151183054
The fact that he got a good punch in on Beerus when SSJ3 Goku couldn't do shit says a lot

>>151187929
>know beyond a shadow of a doubt the anime is OTC.
[citation needed]

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Are DB Threads always going to be like this? Toeicucks Vs Toyo/Tory Manga? Just discuss the damn Cartoon and stop fighting for gods sake.

>>151187929
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-introduction/


I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone

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We're finally alone sweetheart

>>151187929
BASED

>>151187954
>>151187979
Toyocucks digging their grace

>>151187958
>Toeigods vs Toyo/Tori

Very subtle bait, Toyocuck.
Everyone knows the anime is primary

>>151187958
No its over no one respond to the manga troll you've seen the evidence

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>tfw they'll somehow screw him over and prevent him from fighting again

>>151187958
>I want to be right about things and I need to prove what is canon and what isn't to do that!

Also we're still in filler hell, so there's nothing to discuss

>>151187954
>OTC
whats that?

>>151182889
Goku only beat Frieza and Buu

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>Being so contrarian that you start loving fucking Toei Animation

Damn

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>>151188026
>the anime is primary

>>151188082
and king piccolo, and the red ribbon army, and vegeta

>>151188080
this dumb dipshit think there's only "One True Canon" to the Dragon Ball franchise.

>>151188046
>Goku-san I have bad news, everyone except Vegeta fell asleep, so the team right now is just you and Vegeta

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>Toeichads face when they win

>>151188090
Toyopedro on suicide watch

>>151188112
based

>>151183919
Fuck off with this fandom purity bullshit.

>>151188121
Well the manga canon is the "real" canon but the Anime canon exists just fine, the movies and alternate series are really the only things worth excluding.

>>151184882
It's pure autism.

>>151188161
this troll thought the anime became magically the primary canon because Toriyama was involved in the BoG movie.

>>151185275
>Best animated part of the arc next to some other minute a bunch of episodes later
>Shitty
I'm triggered. Mostly because most of the time the animation is complete garbage, but not that part

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>Toriyama decides to go full capeshit with his franchise
>There's no real canon anymore, only different continuities
>These threads die because there's nothing to discuss anymore
>yfw