ITT overrated shit

>>151153852
you can't say nothing of /a/'s favorite animu even if is true, anon

Code Geass.

Grin Login, not so good.

>>151153852
Name three legitimate flaws about FMA:Brotherhood.

Fuck you and everything you believe in.

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>>151153852
Well why don't you tell us why you think it's overrated? What do you dislike about it?

>>151154942
1. It's popular
2. It's not the version i watched when i was a teenager
3. I really want to kill myself

Madoka

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>>151153852

>>151155040
Fair argument.

>>151153852
ITT hating popular shows means I have good taste

>>151154982
Why is this overrated?

>>151154942
Its generic shonen shit thats all you need
And Im surprised its even popular here, what in the fuck get out you redditors

>>151153852
>not using the overrated shit pic
Your post is highly overrated.

>>151154618
>/a/'s favorite animu
[citation needed]

>>151155075
Popular != good

>>151155113
>FMA
>generic shounen
I'm sorry anon, but I think you might have brain damage. Please see a doctor.

>>151155387
Right back at you.
You should rewatch it some time, its shit.

>>151154942
>Overacted and forced drama
>Childish humor and end
>Forgettable characters and a bad protagonist

>>151155512
>Mustang
>Hughes
>Hawkeye
>Bradley
>Scar
>Armstrong
>Hohenheim
>forgettable

Anon, please.

>>151155573
all of them mediocre at his best

>>151153852
Why the hell is this the top recommendation for every series on BakaUpdates? Even manga that is absolutely nothing like FMP has it as the top recommendation

>>151155614
Whether you like them has nothing to do with whether they're forgettable. You probably pictured every single one of them when you read their names.

And if you didn't like any of those characters, your taste is so unbelievably shitty that there is genuinely no hope for you. Please consider offing yourself.

>>151155113
>generic shounen

Stop using words you don't know the meaning of anon

>>151155682
But it is.

>>151155512
>forced drama

Meaningless buzzword, explain why it felt "forced"

>>151155698
How is it generic? All you've done is throw buzzwords without explaining why you think that, like most morons that come on here

>>151155752
How is it not?

>>151155752
FMA Mangahood's story is painfully generic and predictable; there are seven enemies and the heroes gradually work there way through each at them via one on one duels. That sounds like an excuse plot to a video game.

Go to HxH or even FMA 2003 if you want a non-generic shounen with interesting plot and themes.

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>>151154942

>extremely rushed pacing in the beginning due to operating on the assumption that viewers already watched FMA 2003
>horrible forced comedy in dramatic scenes that completely ruins the mood and tension of scenes that the characters still take completely seriously
>generic "i wanna be god" shounen villain that's defeated with protagonist's power of friendship

bonus round
>generic muh dark nature of humanity plot and themes
>kimblee vs scar subplot completely dropped
>scar's circle of reconstruction and ishvala's deus ex machina asspulls to defeat wrath
>and pic fucking related

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>>151155679
>Your opinions are not of my taste, so I wanna tell you kill yourself
Good reply anon

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>>151155718
really I must explain something too obvious?

>>151155951

drama in a fictional story is "forced" by definition you moron.

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>>151153852
>ITT overrated shit
>posts something good
Have a real overrated shit that doesn't have a single thing to redeem itself.

>>151156212
>shit talking the best jojo part

>>151156212
your baiting right? 4 parts of jojo and you post the best

>>151156279

>best jojo part

If you're the best in a pile of shit that's cool and all but you're still in a pile of shit

>>151156212
Not even the most overrated Jojo

>>151156349
Then you should have posted part 3 as that's easily the most overrated.

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>>151156279
>best jojo part
animeonly detected

>>151156443

The whole series is shit.

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>>151153852

>>151156469
>opinions

>>151153852
OP is a faggot, what a surprise.

>>151155852
This

>He's muh brother!
got annoying after a while

Also I thought most of the homunculus died way too easily, Lust should have survived way longer she was too good a character to kill off so early

>>151156443
>part 3
>overrated
It's the most iconic but I don't think anyone thinks it's the best.

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>>151153852
Nah, I'm not going to let this go without comment.
This is how things become "default opinions".
FMAB is great.
Not perfect, but great.
It has an amount of renown approximately proportionate to its quality.

>>151155512
>overacted
This is anime, everything is overacted.
>forced drama
this means nothing.
>childish humor
a franchise having a lighthearted tone and silly moments isn't a flaw. It just doesn't fit your preferences
>childish end
happy endings are not a flaw. What was childish about it?
>forgettable characters
Now you're just baiting, like >>151155573
said.
>bad protagonist
Ed is insufferable at times, but he's supposed to be an arrogant child at the start. He works very well in his story, and mellows out a lot as it goes on.

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>>151155512

>>151155828
Are you fucking retarded? >>151155752 asked you why it was generic and you literally replied saying that it was generic. Please do not reproduce.

>>151158852
>there are seven enemies and the heroes gradually work there way through each at them via one on one duels. That sounds like an excuse plot to a video game

>>151158877
This isn't even close to what happens in the story. You probably read that the Homuculi are based on the Seven Deadly Sins on Wiki and thought you could shitpost about it on /a/.

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>>151158877
This is just factually untrue. You haven't even watched/read FMA.

/a/ cant argue why its bad nor good

>>151156212
>No Stardust Crusaders
Wew, how does shit taste like?

ITT: normies get triggered at the truth

>>151154942
Name three legitimate good things about FMA:Brotherhood.

>>151154618
>/a/'s favorite animu
Planetes?

>>151159912
mustang
hawkeye
housewife

>>151157493
relax and then go to reddit

>>151160640
generic bullshit characters, except hawkeye she is kinda cool

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>>151159912

>ed and alphonse bro dynamic

>symbolism in the homoculi's characterization that reflect aspects of Father's (and humans' in general) psyche and the irony in their deaths that reflect personal growth in the character that defeats them

>alchemy anime magic is an interesting mechanic that draws philosophical principles from real-world chemistry and alchemy that both makes fights interesting and crafts interesting ideas around how a system could work if human souls actually existed

>the idea of the one true deity being Truth in both the sense of rational logic as a universal but also as a reflection of how one personally sees the world

>wrath/bradley being an awesome villain, both within the context of the narrative and also being an actually threatening presence whenever he's on screen

>literally everything about hohenheim

>the english voice acting

>>151157493
This

>>151156279
That isn't part 7 or 4

>>151155304
Popular != bad

>>151153852
One Piece

>>151154942
>generic
>takes forever for the plot to get going
>MC is dumber than a brick

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>>151156301
>Jojo has 4 parts

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>>151155951

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>>151153852 (OP)
>ITT overrated shit

Here you go OP

>>151156212
Could not agree more, Part 2 easily has the worst villains too.

>>151160363
no, Evangelion

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>75 posts in
>no Monster post
I think it's time I left this site

>>151156212
>>151156279
>>151156301
>>151156419
>>151159773
>>151162558
>>151156444
>>151161907
jojo is the mlp of anime.

>>151156106
That's not overrated. I literally never see anyone saying any remotely good thing about it. Considering how entertaining it is, I'd say it's underrated.

>>151165545
>SnW
>Overrated

nigga you what

>>151155828
Brotherhood was super predictable. Remember how Hohenheim traveled around the world and left parts of his Philosopher's Stone in places where they would trigger a transmutation circle that would undo Father's alchemy suppression once the eclipse passed over them? Saw that shit coming from the very first episode.

Kill yourself.

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>m-muh exposition
>m-muh quotable philosophers
>i f-feel smarter after watching this show
>season 2

i still liked it but fuck me right

>>151161506
>symbolism in the homoculi's characterization that reflect aspects of Father's (and humans' in general) psyche and the irony in their deaths that reflect personal growth in the character that defeats them

YES GODDAMMIT THAT WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS THAT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO RECOGNIZE.

Not only do their deaths reflect growth on the characters that kill them, but they die in significant ways (Lust gets burned to death by a handsome man, Gluttony gets eaten, Pride gets reduced to an embryo, Greed gets taken from the only things he never considered possessions, Envy commits suicide after realizing it will never possess the human element, Sloth gets outpaced by someone who fights faster than him, Wrath just fucking dies in a fight, but totally at peace).

That's just what I remember. Was there anything better than that?

Anime I didn't personally care for, but understand the appeal and acclaim.

>Wings of Honneamise
>Trust & Betrayal
>Baccano!
>Nadia
>Serial Experiments Lain

Anime I actually thought was overrated shit.

>Black Lagoon
>Escaflowne
>Shingeki no Bahamut
>Disappearance
>Everything by Gen Urobuchi, christ what a fucking hack

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>>151155883

Y'all are making me want to reread FMA but gosh that's an undertaking.

Shit taste OP.

Now to get out of the way the obvious ones:
>Dragon Ball Z
>Naruto
>One Piss
>SAO
>First FMA anime adaptation
>Sailor Moon
>Saint Seiya
>Slayers
Hm there's almost a trend here

Aria, a show about nothing

>NGE
>Serial Experiments Lain
>Ergo Proxy

The last 2 are just regarded as "okay-ish", but that's still more than they deserve

Darker than Black? More like browner than SHIT!

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I'll make it really simple for everyone here.
Every overpopular Anime is shit for a very simple reason, and this exact reason is why people like it so much.
It's called fanservice.

>>151166288
>Black Lagoon
>Overrated
I don't understand how this is possible considering it's basically rated "Revy's hot and there's guns and fighting", it's not like anyone pretends it's a masterpiece to my knowledge.

>Urobutcher
I thought the first madoka season was pretty good for visual style even if the plot was a bit silly, though I hear it became some sort of trainwreck later on since I can't speak to that I'll just ignore it.

Non Non Biyori? More like Non Non It Bores Me!

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>>151166570
>Watch Aria after having watched YYK OVAs, really in the mood for "comfy" anime
>It's noticeably less comfy than I've been lead to believe from posts on /a/
I dunno, just didn't feel like it was that great.

>>151166957
you forgot carlos.jpg

>>151153852
Parasyte.

Daily reminder that "generic" is a meaningless buzzword. Complaining that something's indistinguishable from things like it is pointless because it just goes to show that you don't understand or even try to understand why they're different. If you can't distinguish something from things like it, that's on you, not on whoever created what you're talking about. They don't need to take your ignorance into account when creating what they're creating.

Characters? Story? Sound? Visuals? Fuck that. The only important thing in a show is how much fun you had while watching it, so each show is subjective to each person. The entertainment factor is all that matters. And goddamn, was I entertained.

>>151154942
its shit
its trash
its boring

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>>151161506
Pretty much every part of this, even the English VA comment.

Also
>if human souls actually existed
this is your (you)

>>151168310
>If you have watched things like this 20 times before, you should enjoy this thing that is also like them and does nothing new or interesting
Also it's hilarious that you think creators don't need to make things stand out for their shows to be successful.

>>151168578
I agree with this. I feel like people in general try to find things to complain about in entertainment instead of trying to get immersed and enjoy they're consuming.

>>151155852
While I agree with some of this. It's still a fun fucking time and better then 90 % of the schlock we get. Its story though flawed, has a fuckton of moving parts, characters and plotlines. Most shonen that introduce so many elements like this one did end up fucking it up half way through. This managed to tie everything up in a satisfying manner and without running for to long.
>Wanna know a real franchise that is overrated hot garbage? Anything by Abe, seriously fuck that guy.

>>151168723
Everything's been done before to some degree so how is a creator supposed to know what you specifically would ignorantly see as new? Also, quite a lot of media stands out just fine, at least to me because I'm able to recognize how they're different. You may have difficulties doing so but that doesn't mean other people do so acting like it's the fault of a piece of media instead of just a personal problem is incredibly self-centered.

>>151168984
>Everything's been done before to some degree so how is a creator supposed to know what you specifically would ignorantly see as new
Gee I wonder.
>Open list of most popular animes released
>Also open list of animes released in the past 5 years
>Check the themes / settings / tropes of them
Wow that was hard

>>151157493
>This is anime, everything is overacted.
Much more so in this one. Im not counting battle shonens because they are usually shit as well. Good anime shows dont have this much overacting.

>this means nothing.
It actually is closely related to the above.

>a franchise having a lighthearted tone and silly moments isn't a flaw. It just doesn't fit your preferences
It is done very badly. No one said having lighthearted tone and silly moments is a flaw except yourself. Stop making shit up and acting like anyone else said it.

>happy endings are not a flaw. What was childish about it?
Again, stop projecting. Happy ending does not mean being childish. Being childish does.

>Now you're just baiting, like >>151155573said.
>everything I dont agree with is bait.

>Ed is insufferable at times, but he's supposed to be an arrogant child at the start. He works very well in his story, and mellows out a lot as it goes on.
Cant disagree with this one but this neither makes it good nor bad.

>>151169079
>animes
>tropes
>having this little of an understanding of how anything works
You need to be 18+ to post here.

>>151165372
Thats because Monster is actually good. No one cares about your shitty meme.

>>151169328
Nice non argument.
The only one who doesn't undesrtand how things work here is you bud. I actually work on, not anime, but videogames, and providing an experience that really stands out from the sea of generic trash is pivotal to success.

>>151154942
My only grips are the shit pacing from the first 10ish episodes, and the alchemy totally being underutilized by almost everyone.
Of all the shit Edward can do, he sticks to his sword arm trick like 90% of his fights, and anyone with any specialization doesn't seem to know how to do anything outside of their specialization.

>>151169394
How?

>>151169736
It's just how the market works.
If you don't generate a desire on the consumer to get your product, by standing out from the competing hundreds of products, you don't sell shit.
Two decades ago this wasn't the case, because there were way fewer people making games and the entry barrier was much higher. Now we have excessive supply for the demand.

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>>151155883

>>151169948
What I meant was how specifically do you make something stand out?

>>151153852
i never understood why people liked this besides it having a lot of frames. the fight choreography and action scenes were pretty lame; it was so straightfoward either edward slashes wildly, scar touches somebody or mustang snaps his fingers. i didnt get why edward was so esteemed, he was pretty shit at alchemy and didnt do much. the whole thing about getting their bodies back fell flat to me. the brothers felt like side characters honestly, like it was just random happenstance that they got involved in the government conspiracy shit. the resolution of the series just seemed random as well, like they just decided to jumble up every plot point into sacrifices. the emotional parts fell flat to me as well, like that one famous crying scene, i could not care less about the dude that died.

Gurren Lagann, not so good.

>>151170047
The short of it is that you analize the market and do something innovative and attention grabbing.
Here's an article Ryan Clark that goes into greater detail (Crypt of the necrodancer dev): http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/RyanClark/20150917/253842/What_Makes_an_Indie_Hit_How_to_Choose_the_Right_Design.php
There was also another one by the subnautica devs I think that called it giving your game "spikes" or something like that, but I can't find it.

>>151167137
>YYK OVAs
thank you for letting me in on this secret

One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Yu Yu Hakusho: Each of these are the typical super human hero that gets "stronger than anyone can imagine" and fights the "strongest villan ever". There's no real emotional or intellectual growth because these characters just will their way to victory. They never face true defeat. Also, it's tiring when somehow after 500 episodes/books that a top level character can somehow get twice as strong or some shit.

Gurrn Lagoon (shit)

One Punch Man is ironic in making him virtually invincible. But it's sucks because they never develope the comedy properly.

Any of those battle suit shits. Especially the ones where they go in space. They're so bland and unoriginal.

Black butler, soul eater, blue exorcist, and seven deadly sins: unoriginal and bland.


This is just my opinion. I enjoyed many of these shows,but I still think they're overrated. If you enjoyed them or think I'm wrong, please post a rebuttal. I'm interested in discussing this.

>>151167137
The problem is that you went from the magnum opus of iyashikei to a pretty good iyashikei. Aria's manga is also much better than its anime.

>>151167137
Keep going, my man. Its first season is certainly good but the Natural and especially the Origination might be more up your alley.

>>151168723

Generic doesn't mean something is bad or lesser. It means it uses the standard tropes, symbols, narrative forms, and themes of a genre. The only things that aren't generic are the works that start and define a new genre.
A perfect execution of a genre's cliches allows works to stand out. For example, Trails in the Sky is a generic and cliched game, however expert execution of those genre cliches allows it to stand out from its peers

>>151165890
>one unpredictable plot thread over the course of 50 episodes
>people defend this

Watch Naruto. It's far, far better. Most of the enemies, such as Orochimaru or Itachi, are less shit as well. Or watch Yu Yu Hakusho.

>>151166672
>NGE
>Serial Experiments Lain
>Ergo Proxy
Sounds like you just don't like slow-pacing and character introspection.

>>151170710
Except TitS doesn't actually stand out, except in niche circles by people praising it for whatever reason, the opinion on its quality is quite divided amongst those who played it too.
Furthermore, the genre is quite lacking as the abundance of generic games made it stagnant.
A better example would have been Ni No Kuni, a game in the genre that actually stood out because of the collaboration with Ghibli.

>>151154942
It's boring...

I probably would have enjoyed it when I was nine.

>>151171196
>legitimate flaws
>boring

>>151162009
/thread

Ghost in the Shell, the first two movies

>>151155040
Fair points.

>>151154942
It's directed like shit.
It adds stupid anime original shit.
It removes important parts of the original story.

>>151172823
Got a list? That sounds more like the first FMA anime.

>>151173266
The original anime is much more guilty of the two last but it was well directed at least and never pretended to be anything but its own thing. FMAB director had no grasp at storytelling whatsoever.

Here you have the list of overrated anime in my humble opinion.
>fmab
>nge
>klk
>ttgl

The term "overrated" is also a worthless meme phrase. It's literally complaining that other people like something more than you do. It really pisses me off when people think it's a legitimate criticism. There's also the people who like or even love something but still call it overrated, usually as an attempt to fit in and not seem like they have a "bad opinion" or something equally insane. How fucking stupid can you get? It's also fucking terrible that this is a legit "Overrated Shit" thread that people are really taking seriously.

>>151169525
>>151155852
>pacing at the beginning
That's the only actual flaw that show had.

Not quite sure, what's the goal of this thread is.

>it's generic shounen shit
Generic bait thread.

>>151165372
I'll agree with you. I had so many people telling me how good this was. After 12 episodes I dropped it because it was fucking boring.

>>151156212
Agreed, part 2 is the weakest right next to part 6

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>>151170710
being generic doesnt inherently make something bad or lesser. however, generic series usually end up being very predictable and without great or excellent execution can be quite boring, especially for those who've seen enough anime to know the tropes and cliches over and over again. since we're on the topic of fma:b ill give some examples.

>Ed is a generic loudmouthed, confident MC with a huge appetite and lots of friends.
>Al is timid but would do anything to help his friends
>Greed is a bad guy but then turns out he just wanted friends
>Primary antagonist has a god complex
>Primary antagonist defeated by friendship shenanigans
>Everyone uses the same few techniques and abilities (assassins creed armblades) despite the incredibly versatile nature of alchemy
>Winry is a tsundere

When you look at a series and its remarkably generic that doesnt make it bad, and in fact fma:b uses these tropes quite well, but precisely because it really fails to execute perfectly or provide refreshing new takes or ideas on the shounen battle genre, its quite easy to see why some may be disillusioned with the series, especially considering that its quite universally popular. i personally enjoy it but i feel that its not so deserving of its universal acclaim. it doesnt do anything badly, but likewise it also fails to impress spectacularly.

>>151153852
Your taste, your favorite anime, your life: it's garbage. kys

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>>151153852
These kinds of thread are the reason why /a/ is such a shitty board. Bunch of retards just using buzzwords so they can trashtalk an anime they don't like.

I feel bad for the few that want to have a genuine discussion about why a certain anime is bad but in the end the retards are going to shitpost harder, preventing the decent discussion.

>>151174340
>kys
Get the fuck out of here.

Azumanga Daioh, shitty ripoff of Lucky Star.

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>shit protag
>shit girl
>shit cast
>awful writing
>obnoxiously cutesy look of everything
>melodrama up the vazoo
this is coming from someone who liked anohana. i fucking can't stand this show. op is the only redeeming quality

Reddit:zero

>>151174543
Lucky Star came out like a decade after Azumanga Daioh

>>151170807
Slow pacing is boring, anon.

>>151174638
Lurk two years before posting.

>>151169525
Ed barely thought any of the Homunculi so the steel sword was the only thing needed. He still used alchemy in those battles too.

Cuck:Zero
Gintama
Angel Beats

>>151170425
shit taste, anon

>One Piece
>"strongest villain ever"
He's still pretty weak in-canon, compared to a decent number of villains, and he's been defeated more than once. The timeskip haki powerup was bullshit, though.

I'm pretty sure the same was true in Yu Yu Hakusho, but I haven't watched/read in a long time.

>One Punch Man
>They never develop the comedy properly
It just seems like you don't know anything about visual comedy.

>Gurrn Lagoon (shit)
>

>bland and unoriginal
>

>>151167436
I have no clue to this day why it was so loved. The shit version of Tokyo Ghoul Part l .

>>151174207
Read the manga instead it makes everything seems so much more suspenseful.

Eureka 7

>>151153852
One of the flaws in the series is Ed and Al's hatred towards Scar.

I know he killed Winry's parents but he actually has a reason for their deaths while Mustang and most of the others killed Ishavalans where they could have declined. He killed the State Alchemists too but once again he had a good reason for it.

It could have been a very great dynamic in the series if shit wasn't so realistic.

>>151174578
I enjoyed it while finding Anohana pretty boring.
I see the flaws of the anime, but it's still enjoyable I think.

>>151153852
absolutely agree
>>151154716
agree
>>151154750
absolutely agree
>>151156106
you're a faggot. it's not that good or should be considered one of the all time greats
>>151166536
leave out dragon ball z. it's way too important to be considered overrated
>>151166672
especially agree about serial experiments lain. that shit was boring.
>>151170425
the fact you lump yu yu hakusho with the rest makes you an underage faggot with shit taste and should kill yourself
>>151172542
ghost in the shell if shit. fucking boring 2deep4u bullshit and way too much dialogue to be considered entertaining.

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>>151153852
>no one starts the overrated shit threads with that monster pic anymore
Truly sad.

Anything music related
Anything that has more than 100 chapters
Anything that has more than 3 seasons
Basic rules for all media.

>>151162508
This is accurate.

>>151175931
>calling episodes chapters
please drink bleach.

>>151175954
You can't drink a TV show moron.
Go watch more Manga with you weebs

quality discussion

>>151175942
especially your lie an april. that shit was so fucking over dramatic even at moments where it didnt even need to be dramatic at all. got obnoxious as fuck after a few episodes. also the music wasnt even that good. I havent seen much music anime but they all tend to be complete shit with the exception of kids on the slope.

>>151175999
Begone reverse Satan
No quality or discussion takes place here.
Only immense Faggotry by people who haven't watch a decent TV show since Fraggle Rock was airing.

Nice recommendation thread

>>151162508
>Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso

Fucking this x10

>predictable plot
>LITERALLY every episode is the same
>forced drama
>should have been 12 episodes max but they stretched it out to 22

Demo calling it his anime of the year is what confirmed his shit taste.

>>151165973
Please don't remind me of season 2

>>151174543
But anon, lucky star is a ripoff of watamote

>>151175848
They do though. Those threads just don't get all that many replies and usually fall off the board pretty quickly.