I don't get it help pls

>>151037066

It's a good movie, which makes it "entry level garbage for normies REEEEEEEE." Do yourself a favor and only watch the shittiest slice of life anime shows imaginable, Zack Snyder's DC films, and the Star Wars prequels.

>>151037252
preach it

>>151037252
why so rude?

>>151037066
Which part or what is it that you don't understand?

Also, could somebody post that image that tried to explain how deep is the movie?

>>151037066
>can't even get the themes of his movie across without literal talking head monologue sequences
All there is to get is that Oishi is a fucking hack.

>>151037252
Fuck off /tv/

just overanalyse the crap out of everything in the movie dude its fun fuck

>>151037066
Despite all her rage, she was still just a ghost in a shell.

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>>151037780

>can't even get the themes of his movie across without literal talking head monologue sequences
>Oshii is a fucking hack

Except in 1985 he made an avant-garde film with extremely sparse dialogue, and it's fucking great.

>>151040324

Even as far as slow-burn, talking head, deep concept films by Mamoru Oshii go, GitS isn't that good.

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>>151040324
>fucks up the first 2 Kerberos movies so hard Jin-Roh only got made on the explicit condition that he not direct it
>not a hack

>>151037066

>in the far future, where androids are a thing and cyberization of the human body is complete
>the US has a black project where it attempts to weaponize an AI that can take on whole countries and shut them down in minutes
>during this process, the AI gains sentience and expands into the net--and it consumes all of human information at an exceptionally rapid pace
>it begins to explore what it means to be human, and tries to download itself into various bodies across the world; leading to events XYZ
>eventually, it manages to find the Major, which just so happens to be one of the most advanced cyberized former humans on the planet
>it likes how the major thinks and also notes that she's a woman
>it knows that various agencies are after it, and either want to contain it and neuter it to understand what happened and then weaponize it further if they can--and destroy it if they can't
>it wants to do what humans and other species on the earth do: procreate and pass on it's genes
>and so, the major and Project 2501 come together and have a child
>which then evolves further into the net and the implication is that inevitably there's a whole AI civilization living within the global net hardware of GiTS universe
>and the cost of this procreation is that the major's mind is also uploaded into this deep net

That's the main plot, and the subplot is Motoko's own existential struggle of whether she is machine or if there's anything in her that's still human. She's been cyberized for so long and has gone through so many bodies and parts, that while she behaves like a human she is unsure as to whether in her cyberbrain there's a ghost aka soul that makes her her--or if over the course of the many cyberizations and body swaps, Motoko Kusanagi doesn't exist and there's just some pseudo personality that has taken hold that moves the shell (body) in certain ways and reacts in other ways.

start with the greeks

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>>151037252

>>151037066
>I don't get it
You're not supposed to. This becomes apparent when you see the absolute abortion that was Innocence, the sequel.

What you have to understand about GiTS '95 is that Oshii sacrificed everything for the purpose of illustrating theme. Story, character, coherence, everything. The story of GiTS '95 is almost nonexistent, and Oshii disposed of all the levity and nuance in the characters of the original manga. The point of all the empty philosophical dialog in GiTS '95 and Innocence is that you're supposed to be able to just barely but not really follow it, it's part of expressing the idea that the major is evolving beyond humanity. '95 gets away with this decently well and does a legitimately incredible job of illustrating its themes, but when you watch Innocence you realize that '95 only worked because of the constraints which were put on it. Oshii penned the screenplay for Innocence, not '95, and it's just openly retarded. Then you start to compare his work on GiTS to his other renowned works, Jin-Roh, Patlabor 2, and it all becomes very samey. He's one-note, and it worked best in Jin-Roh.

All that being said, '95 is a beautiful work of art. Again, it does an amazing job of illustrating themes, it becomes a monolithic totem where every single element right down to the music is lending thematic support, the design, art, animation, score, and visual direction are all incredible, but it falls down as entertainment. It comes across as more of a lecture than a story.

>>151042865
HOly fuck this bloard is infested with plebians

>>151042865
nice pasta with quality b8, saved

>>151043076
>bloard
True.

Just pay attention to the arguments going on when everyone gets all existential.

>>151042865
>This becomes apparent when you see the absolute abortion that was Innocence
decent bait, kinda mad

>>151037780
He didn't write GITS.