Anime films are putting Japan’s live actors out of work

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>>150999475
B-but /a/ keeps saying that anime is dying. What the fuck is going on here? I thought anime didn't make any money.

>>150999475
If Japan actually made good live action movies, this wouldn't be a problem

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>>150999475
>a movie so dangerous it jeopardizes the balance of the 3D world

>>150999546
/v/ keeps saying it.

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>>150999679
>>150999528
Actually FINDS A WAY to the head of character designer, see Newtype lastest cover.

>>150999769
See >>150999714

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>yfw when Tomino predicted this over 3 decades ago.

Well, it makes perfect sense, probably not even nips like their own movies, but anime is even exported to the rest of the world.

>>150999475
japanese are generally shitty actors anyway. especially when they're directed by japanese directors. literal overacting shitfest.

On a different topic, is there a version of this movie out yet that isn't garbage in quality?

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>>150999475
>Japan’s live actors
Those exist?

>>151000122
Well, MCs of Your Name are voiced by live actors.

>>151000122
There are dozens of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvEZqGOloaY

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What went so wrong bros? Japanese movies were very good

>>151000219
You're not allowed to make movies about your history from any other than american POV.

>>151000144
Not sure what I expected

>>151000219
Hollywood took over the live action movie industry. They'd rather watch white men with Japanese subtitles than look at their own people.

>>150999475
>the increasingly lopsided nature of Japanese cinema

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pf_article_112902.html

It costs the equivalent of $24 to go see a movie in Tokyo. (Probably more now, this was in 2011.)

So while normal people are cutting back on entertainment expenses like you'd do in a recession, the anime nerds are spending their life savings on hundred dollar anime BDs.

>>150999475
Does this mean Hollywood actors are putting American voice actors out of work? Of course not, these industries don't magically sabotage each other.

>>151000352

Pretty much, England that had a decent movie industry is pretty much gone, same with France and Italy.

I think we dont hear about it because of Theater that survived, Hollywood simply destroyed everything ... I suppose Korean and China Cinema survive just because they are somewhat isolated but Hollywood already setting their eyes on China so its a matter of time, of couse Japan got worst because they lack the Theater tradition of Europe that allows actors to remain on a live stage and of course because of Sony that is one of the major studios of Hollywood.

>>151000527

Well, it seems China wants to make its own Cinema Industry to compete with Hollywood, and with protection from the Chinese Government they might even succeed.

>>151000184
>You now realize that Kamen rider is just a make work program to keep japanese live action actors employed.

>>151000583
It might be worth watching if they can stand to make films that aren't retellings of Romance of the Three Kingdoms

>>151000440
Well, they still have their place in TV drama.

>>151000628
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_films_of_2016

>>151000628

This new one about the Great Wall is supposed to be the first of the new breed of Chinese-made films to compete with Hollywood.

>>151000583
>China wants to make its own Cinema Industry to copy Hollywood movies

Fixed the grammar errors for you

>>151000727
Wait, so Kimi no Na wa is actually based on Keit Ai?

>>151000762

Don't know how well most Hollywood formulas would translate into Chinese though.

>>150999575
This.

Also if you can actually act you would probably go to America and be the token asian character. Or at the very least the token martial art expert

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>>150999475
don't fall for the seiyuu school scam.

>>151000802
Yeah being Katana in Suicide Squad was so worthwhile.

>>151000775

They dont, this is why The Mermaid was the highest grossing movie in China, Warcraft movie that bombed was saved by the Chinese revenue that just shows they have strage tastes.

I think they also own a lot of Hong Kong movie industry that is already established, after all The Mermaid and Shaolin Soccer had the same man behind them, Stephen Chow.

>>151000527
what is kabuki?

>>150999546

I think they think Late Night anime=all anime. I mean /a/ is pretty ignorant and seems to think anyone "normal" or mainstream is Satan himself so....

>>151000105

They think acting means just gesticulating, gnashing teeth and mugging for the camera as they chew the entire scenery so yeah. Acting to Japan might as well mean just go completely bat shit nuts on camera for 2.5 hours since apparently every live action drama has to be an hour longer than it needs to.

>>150999475
Hollywood fucked it desu. Japan just doesn't produce good live action movies anymore.

>>151000427

Your Name isn't an otaku movie though. Incidentally

>Thread is about Live Action vs animated cinema in Japan
>Example is Your Name
>Thread spends the majority of it's time memeing about this Keit-Ai thing

I swear OP's do this on purpose

>>151000935
This, Japanese live action cinema is complete garbage.

Japanese actors and films (with the exception of Anime) are ABSOLUTE SHIT.

They can't act for shit, always overacting, plot is shit, all shit.

The Japanese can only make good movies, when they are the only ones doing it.

B-But I like Nodame Cantabile.

>>150999475

The subs are up on Kissanime, but is there a release date for the English dubs?

Just take a look at the FMAB trailer, theres your reason why JP movie industry is shit.

>>150999546
>believing /a/ in the first place

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>why don't people want to go to the theater to go see a 3-hour long samurai film with no intermissions in the year 2016?

>>151000527
>>151000696
The problem is that chink cinema lacks 'bite' due to the government censorship. You can't quite afford to be too creative in your materials.

>>150999575
So painfully this, 99% of Japanese live action is complete shit.

And no, its not a cultural/language barrier issue, its just bad.

The only good live action Jap films that have come out in the last 10 years or so that I have seen are;
Okuribito
Aruitemo Aruitemo

The latter being a Oscar worthy example of how Japan should stick to making fucking films.

>>151000861
>strange tastes
It's not strange at all. There's actually a very simple reason: CG and special effects. To people (in the west) who are used to seeing major blockbusters for decades, it may not mean anything, but to china (and by extension, plenty of other asian countries), hollywood is their only real shot at seeing fancy CG effects. While the west has already gotten used to it, over in china it's still a pretty new thing and good CG isn't quite as common in their own films.

>Hong Kong movie industry
Unfortunately, HK's movie industry seems to have stagnate in recent years.

>>151001026
Kill yourself

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>>150999769
this is kinda overboard, you know.

>>151001174
forgot scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlduxC1mtrs

>>151000696
>>151000628
>>151001099
Big Fish & Begonia was a legit good movie desu

Funny seeing talk about live actors overacting when this is about competition from anime, the lord of overacting. Isn't that the reason live actors are sometimes hired for anime movies and such rather than seiyuu? Because they don't base their performance on archetypes?

>>151001549
Never said there aren't good chinese movies, it's just that there's a 'limit' to how good they can be.

>>151001671
>Japanese
We're talking about actual chinese movies here, not the chinese in the lol chinese cartoons joke.

>>151001671
u w8 m8

Calm down on the projection and strawmmaning. Also, we're talking about Chinese cinema and you seriously have no idea about what's going on. I'll tell you to go read about what people in the entertainment industry have said about it (at least those who dared to speak out) but you probably can't read mandarin anyway. Your post has jack shit to do with anything.

>>150999475
Japan saving 2D animation

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>>151000762
>China wants to make its own Cinema Industry to copy Hollywood movies

Chinese companies are making anime shows more and more, but you only saw the japanese studio name. But the contractors were in china. But this season's Bloodivores is a chinese producer (TenCent) and chinese animation studio. They have to have some japanese staff to get it onto japanese TV, but no worries because they are broadcasting it in china in its native language.

Picture: Disney has been unable to stop china from making, showing in theatres around the world, and selling Cars. The chinese studio copied a lot and modernized the drawings and then basically did a rewrite of the text. So, you have Cars starring the Autobots. I guess Autobots is not a trademark of Hasbro/Wizards of the Coast.

Is this a Kimi no Na wa thread?
I want this to be a Kimi no Na wa thread.

Which is worse plagiarizer, China or korea?

>>151001805
If Disney can't stop China, we're doomed.

>>151001608
Oh I agree with you, Chinese cinema would probably be world-renowned if it wasn't for the CCP. I just wanted to mention Big Fish & Begonia cause it's probably the first good animated movie to come out of China. I'm hoping it gets an international release.

If Chinese animation got big, would discussion of it belong on /a/ or /co/?

it's not anime's fault. idk much about Japanese cinema, but when someone talks about modern Asian cinema it's either going to be Hong Kong or Korea. and China and Taiwan to a lesser extent.

>>150999546
>anime is dying meme

newfag detected

The "meme" is in context of late night slots. Indeed, it is reclining and does not bring home video sales like it used to (even by last decade's standards)

Now, releasing anime on film guarantees YUUUUUGE profits and sidesteps piraters at the same time.

>>151002018
If it did get big enough, then there might be enough massive shitstorms on both boards that would result in a "/qi/".

>>151002261
>"/qi/".

/qi/? I might be dumb but what does that stand for?

>>151002243
If nips would just put their shit on Netflix instead of continuing their meme garbage of physical sales.

Am I crazy or are the current seiyuu generation all starting to sound the same? I'm pretty sure only ten years ago the performances were far more distinct.

>>151002316
Quite Interesting

>>151001805
What would we do without China

>>151002324
>If nips would just put their shit on Netflix instead of continuing their meme garbage of physical sales.

lmao now that's a recipe for "anime is dying"

>>151002316
Qin Shi Huang

The jackass, the territory, and the state that the West named the massive empire in the East after. Hence "chin(a)".

>>151002324
Nip business culture is still leery of streaming as a viable delivery platform. Many of them are also computer illiterate and only access the internet through their cellphones. Also Netflix's insistence on releasing shit all at once would be the death of weekly discussion on /a/ as we know it

>>151002461
Ah, just the jackass for all three parts.

>>151002450
Physical media is already dead.

>>151002445
America would still be great because we'd still have our manufacturing jobs and wouldn't have to have our media pander to pleb chinks.

The beginning of the end for mainstream Japanese cinema was when Fox fucked over Kurosawa on Tora Tora Tora!
They picked him up to co-direct purely because he was the only Japanese name they knew, then proceeded to ignore and talk down to him until he left.

>>151002554
>Would have to pay a lot more for all electronics.
>But this is good because we keep this ridiculously low amout of garbage jobs inside the country
I bet in 20 years when all transport of all things is automated you will be complaining on how evil robots stole millions of jobs

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>>151002243
>"I love the anime people, great people outstanding character, just terrific people. I was on the phone with them the other day, just fantastic. but they got a problem folks. I the media wont want me to say this, but I will because I'm a good guy: nightslots. I mean they work on the anime, they draw the anime , they voice the anime, they write the anime, and where do they put it? The nightslot! Folks, there's something seriously wrong with that country if those, terrific, terrific people can just end up on the nighslot. I'll tell ya what, once I'm in control: no more nighslot. Nada; zilch, bye-bye mr. nighslot. Anime is gonna be so, just, so so great, they're gonna be sick of all this greatness, I'll tell ya, there gonna be sick of it. It's gonna be YUGE, lemme tell ya.

Ignoring the five year olds that scream from their lungs that Japanese can't act and make good films for a second, it's true that cinema in Japan has decreased in quality. Good movies are so being made, good actors exist but the overall quality has seemingly decreased. Especially in production values, lightning and composition seem almost irrelevant even though it was one of the strongest points of Japanese cinema.
Don't know what they're doing but it could very well be shit education when it comes to acting and directing. Plus funding might also be awful but it seems the Japanese are happy with it.
We have almost the same issue in Germany, somewhat decent production values but terrible acting schools that focus on theatre like acting and directors that often just go down the "Hollywood" path.

>>151002644
>But this is good because we keep this ridiculously low amout of garbage jobs inside the country

Yeah it's not like 70% of the country still doesn't have a BA and might prefer a manufacturing job over student loan debt. Or that income inequality has only increased as manufacturing jobs have left. Clearly having cheap shit is all that matters.

>>151002713
>it could very well be shit education when it comes to acting and directing

Dunno about acting, but for directing, you go to film, not film school.

>>151002759
I don't know what you're trying to say? It's a statement about general education for both professions.

>>151002753
US manufacturing job losses since 1990 have been 60% robots 40% chinks. Multiple models have concluded this.

>>151002818
So is the 40% chinks unimportant then?

>>151002753
>Clearly having cheap shit is all that matters.
To me, yes. Fuck the uneducated.

>>151000440
Don't they compete for funding from sponsors?

>>151002866
That represents about 3 million jobs. It's significant, but not nearly enough to solve the problem you're talking about.

>>150999475
Why would any """'talented""" actor be unable to do voice acting? If you cannot act with your voice you cannot act.

>>151002753
Why not just get a degree and become a professional that contributes to society instead of being a waste of breath loser who is literally worth less than a robot?

>>151002866
You're going to be getting progressively angrier in the coming decades, as technology makes most jobs obsolete.
I'm annoyed that bureocracy still has you require things like accountants, which current software can do perfectly if the government allowed to eliminate that job via regulation.
You should be preparing for a future where most people can't find jobs, not trying to turn back the wheels of progress. Mostly because progress is unstoppable.

>>151003132
So a person with a gender studies degree has more worth than someone who went through an apprenticeship and knows a trade?

>>151003065
Some people are great emotive actors but cannot act in a soundbooth.

Some people can deliver dialogue greatly but suck with expressions.

>>151001896
Ching Chong Ching Chong Ching Ching Ching Ching Ching Ching Ching Chong,
Ching Chong Ching Chong Ching Ching Ching Ching Ching Ching Choooooooooooooooooong.

>>151002866
It will be unimportant eventually because technology is advancing.

>>151002658
Make
Anime
Great
Again

>>151000713
Wait I thought that Great Wall one is a Hollywood movie pandering to Chinese

>>151004248

It's a Chinese movie pandering to Hollywood actually.

>>151000527
Italy had a comedy this year that made as much money as Avatar
It completely obliterated Star Wars while being released at the same time
Italy still has a movie industry and it's ok
>watching an Italian movie on tv
>mimutes long slo-mo fanservice shot of the lead male actor
Free! levels of fanservice, it was hilarious

>>151004331
Avatar as in the CGI tall smurf people by Cameron, or Avatar as in the Shyamalan adaptation of the Last Airbender?

>>151004680
Cameron's Avatar
It made as much money as Avatar in the local box office

>>151004814
>in the local box office
Pffft way to be misleading.

>>151004980
Who cares about foreign markets?
I don't think it was even released abroad

>>151005015
Because saying shit like "made as much money as Avatar" doesn't sound impressive at all if you're talking about your local market, you idiot. Especially if your local market is neither china nor murica.

>>150999546
only /v/ and the Miyazaki legion think this

>>150999475
It's not like Japan is well known for making good movies in the first place.

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>>150999575
This.
>>150999475
Maybe /jp/ would care more.

>>151005035
It reached Avatar box office numbers in Italy without spending half abillion dollars, I think that's pretty fucking good

why dont other countries make anime

>>151005135
>What is Seven Samurai?

>>151005035
But Japan literally doesn't give a shit about China or America.

>>151005135
Ignorance the post.

While I thought about all the women that are forced to voice all 0815 battle harems I never really thought about that one guy.
>“It’s ranked at the top of the most desired professions,”
I wonder...

>>151005035
It is when it's 100x times less the cost of Avatar.

>>151005459
It's a man listening to cute women voicing cute girls how they want to suck the dick of the man's anime character.
Sounds like a great job, actually.

>>151000527
>France cinema industry is gone
>Record year for entries

>>151005404
>>151005458
Please enlighten me. Name 5 good Japanese directors who are not Kurosawa.

>>151005798
You said good movies, not directors. Already losing the plot? But anyways. Ishii, Miike, Kitano, Kobayashi, Ichikawa, Mizoguchi, Ozu, Naomi Kawase. You want to hear some more?

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>>151005251
But they do. Sort of.

>>151005798
Takeshi Kitano, Takashi Miike, Yasujiro Ozu, Kenji Mizoguchi, and Hirokazu Koreeda.

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>the purge continues

>>151005947
>>151006015
I stand enlightened.

>>150999891
Stop posting that because it's already a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139

>>151006299
And most Japanese films (like French films or South Korean films) aren't known not because their stories suck but because they're in a different language/culture.

The stories themselves are perfectly fine for American consumption judging from the American remakes of many of these stories.

>>151006299
>>151005798
Fucking pleb.

Why can't actors be voice actors?
Don't hollywood actors also do voice work in western animated movies?
If they start making more anime movies than live action movies than actors will start doing more voice work
I fail to see the problem

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>>150999974
Based Godmino

>>151000440
In America cartoons (except a few 'sitcom' exceptions like The Simpsons and Family Guy) are considered children's television. Its exceedingly rare for Americans to tell a adult-oriented story with a generally serious tone through animation. That is the reason why Hollywood and VAs don't compete in America.
Exhibit A: Ghost in the Shell. It needs a fat, live action ScarJo to appeal to American adults.

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Is she the greatest actress of our generation?

>>151005484
It's not when it's released in only 1 % of the world.

>>151002468
>Also Netflix's insistence on releasing shit all at once would be the death of weekly discussion on /a/ as we know it

That's a good thing anon.

>>151004980
You thought he meant that the sole box office takings for that movie in one country was enough to compete with the worldwide takings of a blockbuster? Are you retarded?

>>151007879
>>151005035

>>151002468
>Netflix's insistence on releasing shit all at once would be the death of weekly discussion on /a/ as we know it

This is actually a great way to abolish generals

Is it not just a production problem? Often it seems like they can't afford the equipment. Shit cameras, shit microphones, shit lighting... if the quality of the film is going to be poor on a base level like that, then it's no wonder they squander the opportunity to write well, act well, direct well.

Like, their TV dramas even look like they're shot on home video. Here in the UK, a similarly sized country, we produce at least decent looking TV.

>>151007996
Not really.

>>151007721
And?
It made the same amount of money in that territory as the super expensive mega blockbuster

>>151004331
I wanna see an example vid of this, just for kicks.

>>151000981
Well, yeah, now it is. Anime really is the best they have at this point.

>>151008280
>just for kicks
There's nothing wrong with being gay, be honest
https://youtu.be/r-Frf1_r12c?t=14
scene starts at 0:14

>>151008011
That reminds me, Japan has an NHK television license fee, doesn't it? What do they do with the money? It's a shame nothing good seems to come of that. I and other pardners watch plenty of UK TV but when it comes to Japan it's pretty much just anime.

>>151008219
It doesn't save the Italian movie industry, though, that would mean it made 100 times less the profit, too.

Let's look at the exact numbers:

Judging from what I can take from Wikipedia, I guess you're talking about “Quo Vado?”. It had a budget of 10 M€ (11.2 M$) and made 65 M€ (72.9 M$).
Avatar had a budget of 237 M$ + 9 M$ = 246 M$, making 2.79 G$. That's 22x the budget, 38x the turnover and 41x the profit. So even relative to the budget, Avatar made nearly double the profit.
(Also, as I said, 41x the profit simply is 41x the profit. The ratio of turnover to budget doesn't actually matter in the end, the difference does.)

Also, of course movies are going to fare better in their home market, with people being happy about their own country being able to make good movies, too. I'm German and we had Der Schuh des Manitu in 2001: That made 65 M€ from 4.5 M€ budget – so it had the same turnover as the Italian movie on less than half the budget. Still, I wouldn't claim it was an indicator for the good shape of the German movie industry.

If anything, these European movies are a sign of how bad the industry fares. Our movies are only successful in our own countries, and I find that pretty sad, because to me that's a sign of how people just go see these movies because of localism.

>>151001598
Anime acting has become weaker recently, but it still blows away Japanese live acting.

>>151005251
What do you think of this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdM2Ylxm8nU

>>151002392
You're not wrong.

>>151008505
German movie market is much bigger compared to Italy
Avatar got twice what it got in Italy in Germany
And of course a nation is gonna watch local movies, it'd be stupid to think otherwise
We're on /a/ you should know this

>>151008961
>German movie market is much bigger compared to Italy
>Avatar got twice what it got in Italy in Germany
I didn't claim anything different. Half the budget, same turnover, so it should be comparable to the Italian movie.
I only said I wouldn't claim that movies in this category are not a sign of the well-being of a country's movie industry.

>And of course a nation is gonna watch local movies, it'd be stupid to think otherwise
Yes. And that's exactly why >>151005035 said that it isn't very impressive (as do I).

>>151009103
>I only said I wouldn't claim that movies in this category are not a sign of the well-being of a country's movie industr
Sorry, one "not” too much, obviously.

>>150999475
This is a good thing, japanese live action is shit anyways.

>>151009103
If the market is bigger you need less to get the same box office, that was my point
Except for the US, where the market is huge but they need crazy huge budgets to make that money
And I don't see why it's not a sign of health, a local movie competing locally with a hollywood juggernaut is pretty great in my eyes
Look at Kimi no Na wa, it's the 4th highest grossing movie ever in Japan and it probably had a fraction of the budget of Harry Potter, Avatar and Frozen

>>150999475

I wish anime got dubbed with as much effort as thy give to like pixar movie voice acting. It might actually be a good dub if they did.

>>151009333
Because if you make that argument, you can also argue how great the North Korean movie industry is. I guess in North Korea it's doing better than Hollywood movies, after all.
I see your point, but it's difficult for me to understand how well the Italian industry is doing when I can't even watch their movies because they are simply not released here. But then again, Kimi no Na wa isn't released here either.

>>151003172

Yes, because a trade that can be done by a fucking automaton is a worthless trade.

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Can't say I'm surprised.

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>>151003172
>gender studies
>not making any money

Anita would like to have a word with you.

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>>150999475
post yfw 3DPD was BTFO yet again

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>>151002658

>>151009409
Language barrier is a bitch
Do you know why Hollywood has such a huge market everywhere in the world?
Because they finance, oversee and keep alive local voice acting companies and give them their movies after they learn how to be great dubbers
It's why anime is usually bad in English while it's decent when dubbed in other languages, those countries use the huge Hollywood funded voice actors to dub anime
In Italy we have professional voice actors that always dub the same actor in Hollywood movies, you watch Leo Di Caprio, he's always got the same Italian voice, and then you hear these same guys voicing foreign soap operas, anime, western cartoon and tv shows
We even have actual actors dubbing foreign movies too

>>150999546
The Japanese entertainment industry is dying in general
live-action just happens to be dying faster than anime

simple as that

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>>151009474

>>151009591
Glad to hear that. Now I don't feel like so much of a filthy weeb because I occasionally end up searching for jap dubs for hollywood movies. Pacific Rim with nip dub was brilliant in more ways than one.

>>150999475
This is one of the most retarded clickbait I've ever seen. There are way more live action movies and dramas then there are anime movies. Plus there are many more anime that are being converted to live action. But okay, here's another alarmist piece that makes people feel like shit for something barely related succeeding.

>>151009591
>It's why anime is usually bad in English while it's decent when dubbed in other languages, those countries use the huge Hollywood funded voice actors to dub anime
[citation needed]
Maybe that's true for Italian, but certainly not for German.

>In Italy we have professional voice actors that always dub the same actor in Hollywood movies, you watch Leo Di Caprio, he's always got the same Italian voice
Yeah, we have that, too.

>and then you hear these same guys voicing foreign soap operas, anime, western cartoon and tv shows
Western cartoons are usually dubbed by famous actors (so they aren't actually professional voice actors...), but anime is usually dubbed by... I don't know, people in desperate need of some money?

>We even have actual actors dubbing foreign movies too
Yeah, I find that stupid. Acting and voice acting are two different things, if actors do voice acting, it's usually just so people recognize their name.

>>151009711
English speaking countries have this problem
But watching something in the original language is still generally the best choice

>>151009898
It's not the quantity, but the quality, and the box office numbers

>>151001174
>Okuribito
Man, I've never cried at anything as much as I cried at that movie.

>>151009993
When I watch anime on tv I sometimes recognize voices from big movies, so it definitely happens
And big name actors dub animated movies in the US as well, it happen with dubs in Italy too

>>151009993
>but anime is usually dubbed by... I don't know, people in desperate need of some money?
I think Disney hires real actors for their Ghibli localizations.

The industry will survive.
Look at all the movies being adapted from manga and LN, the more they learn from anime the better.
Kamen Rider > jap cinema

>>151012022
Is it like the equivalent of capeshit domination over there yet?

>>151000527
>same with France
ever been to france mate?

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>qz.com
Sound like some top tier bullshit article because no one cares about anime films in Japan. How many movies released this year? 4? 5?

>>150999546
What percentage of new anime do you guys find good?

>>151001174
You know nothing about japanese cinema. When will people learn now to talk about things they now nothing about

>>151017188
>oscar-bait and koreeda
I guess this is the modernized version of the "dude Kurosawa lmao I'm Japanese cinema expert".

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>>150999475

Why would anyone want to see a shitty Japanese live action movie when you can superior movies from Korea and other Asian countries? Not even the Japanese market is interested in its own live action movies. With the increasing importance of the international market, it only makes sense that Japanese moviemakers are specializing in the market they now dominate instead of fruitlessly competing with the superior Korean and Hong Kong filmmakers. Until someone breathes some new live into the Japanese live action filmmaking, this trend of focus on anime movies is only going to becoming stronger in the future.

>>151018143
I'm actually baffled at this. Cinematography wise, Korea's live films shits on Japan so badly. Shouldn't Japan be actually up there? What happened?

>>151001608
>Never said there aren't good chinese movies, it's just that there's a 'limit' to how good they can be.

Oh, it's that "only stories that are critical against your government are good stories"-meme.

Soviet movies were GOAT (Andrei Tarkowski et all), and so are Chinese movies that arent just inane money-making schemes like Tiny Times etc.

Zhang Yimou films and those by Feng Xiaogang are realy fucking kino.

>>151021622
>>151001608
>>151002018

I think Chinese historical movies are pretty critical of the chinese government.
Like "The Assembly" from 2007 (critizising the disrespect against veterans by the post revolution bureaucracy), "Fall of Ming" from 2013 (railing against corruption and warning the CCP against the loss of legitimacy because of it), "The Banquet" from 2006 (shitting on official rewriting of history) etc. are all very critical of the CCP rule in general. And they were great movies, btw.

Of course, critique is always subtle, self-reflected and not in-your-face like in Western movies, and they almost always play in ancient China to give them plausible deniability.

Hopefully this means we'll be getting less manga adapted only to live action film and more anime adaptations.

part of the reason korean cinema is so developed and popular is because the korean government subsidizes and supports the korean movie industry as part of their effort to promote korean cultural products. i don't know much more beyond that.

>>151002243
Shitty regular anime is the foundation of good anime films though

>>151022984
There hasn't been a good anime movie based on an established anime series since Baron Omatsuri.