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>I somehow got a special skill that only I have
This is the greatest asspull ever, why the fuck would an mmo give a special snowflake ability to someone
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SAO is badly written gargage.
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>>150888017
SAO is shit, we all know it, and we know the reasons. But it's been a while and it's not worth to discuss it again, anon. Let it die.
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>>150888017
The real question is, why the fuck would someone watch SAO?
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>>150888017
Tera online used to have a skill called " Murderous Intent " which only the top 5-10 players of ranked Skyring could use which buffed them insanely, but you had to end the season with being top everything time to keep it.
I honestly support giving special skills for certain achievements.
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>>150888095
Yes, that's a great idea but giving someone a special skill without doing anything is just an asspull.
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>>150888017

that's every Web/Light/Novel protagonist ever

having a special snowflake ability is what defines them as being a protagonist

prove me wrong
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>>150888017
Its because you are newfag. Star Wars Galaxies was giving out "jedy" powers to random players. Similarly Everquest had "rare" races you can only get when you create random character with small chance.

Its nothing out of ordinary and not really different now from someone getting top equipment in korean RNG mmos now.
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>>150888017
Villain didn't know why he did the shit he did and you're asking this?
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Kayaba was a shitty railroading DM and decided that game will end with him going 1v1 against the player with dual wielding, which skill was supposed to be granted to the player with best reaction times.

The bigger asspull was breaking the game twice with the power of love during the final battle.
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>>150888017
Reminder that earlier in the show he killed a guy who dual wielded axes
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Who cares about SAO when Moonlight Sculptor exists?
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>>150888258
>gookshit
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>>150888267
Certainily better than nip shit written by 11 yo.
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>>150888307
How so? Both are written by authors who self-insert as the protagonist.
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>>150888335
>self insert as Weed
good luck, also didnt know author was a jew
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>>150888371
Yeah, because you're an EOP.
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>>150888477
Says EOP to person that speaks 4 languages.
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>>150888017
nobody ever said that a video game had to be fair
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>>150888017
I played a gook mmo once and it was full of shit where 0.001% will just randomly get a +10 upgrade or something for free and made them super op.
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>>150888128
>>150888017
SAO is shit but you can't really say that they asspulled this certain part since they did in fact say that the player with the fastest reaction time in game was to be given the skill.
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>>150888502
>I speak 4 languages because I said so
I can speak 8 languages fluently though.
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>>150888128
>it's a special skill without the player doing anything
Someone didn't watch SAO.
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>>150888872
I did, I'm OP. I'm currently at episode 10.
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>>150888017
It would be a lot more feasible if we had other guys achieve the same special position. Too bad the author doesn't know shit about world building and concentrated on shitty romance instead.
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>>150888929
> currently at episode 10.
Okay, you are forgiven.

BTW Season 1 ends at Episode 14. There is NO Episode 15. There is definitely NO such thing as a Fairy Dance Arc.
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>>150888929
>Starting a thread when you're not even halfway through
Go away before you get spoil- ah whatever never mind. Nothing we could ruin anyway.

Still, you can only really shittalk something if you know the whole of it.
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>>150888017
the guy who wrote sao doesn't really play mmo
he wrote it more as an adventure self insert style story

a good story that has mmo realism and focuses on some aspects of community building in mmos is log horizon
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>>150888857
Well my uncle works for Rosetta Stone
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>>150889084
And besides, Kayaba never had actual intention to treat it as an "MMO", but rather as a Hero / Villain Story.
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Progressive > anime
Prove me wrong, you cant.
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>>150889711
We don't need to, because it's the truth.
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The biggest asspull was when Kirito became a master programmer and could code shit at speeds equivalent to Data from fucking Star Trek
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>>150888017
>have the fastest reaction time in all of the players
>give a skill to further gap the players
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>>150889915
> Master Programmer
> Only using Copy / Paste function
OK
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>>150890097
Tell that to Tera Online
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>>150889711
I can't, you win.
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>>150889711
So they're planning to release 80+ volumes for progressive? Considering the pace so far with 1 or 2 floors every volume.
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while I don't like SAO, this is fine.
It's given out to the player with the highest reaction time, witch presumibly changes constantly, Make it to the top of their internal reaction time leader board once, and you get the skill. So 100s (and in a non permadeath game 1000s) of players would have unlocked the skill.
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>>150888017
you're forgetting the 8 other conditional skills

it's not an asspull when it has very clear stipulations

kayaba intended for them all to be discovered by floor 100, and to have the band of unique skill users and the rest of the game's strongest players face off against the final boss in a climactic confrontation
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>>150891328
Actually, a skill that only unlocks if you beat some worldwide record sounds like a fun challenge, imho.

...well, as long as it isn't TOO broken.
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>>150891328
>everyone who ever topped the leaderboard would get the skill and keep it permanently
>multiple people would have Dual Blades
[Citation Needed]
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>>150888017
>I have been recognized as capable of replacing my idol, as he must sacrifice himself for the good of mankind
>If I continue to prove myself, I will be advancing in his footsteps
Your point being?
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>>150891328
it's called a unique skill, emphasis on unique
there are no duplicates
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>>150888929
I'm going to be a nice guy, and strongly recommend you stop watching this series immediately.
If you're really interested, pick up the LN. After reading through the first 4 volumes of the LN and the first volume of progressive you should be clear to watch the anime. The reason I say this is A-1's adaptation botches a great deal of the things that made the LN rather enjoyable, and sometimes just cuts them out altogether. If you have any hope for this series, there is far more to be found in the LN. In fact, you may just like Fairy Dance more than the Aincrad arc, because Fairy Dance was TERRIBLE in the anime.
Once again, because I feel fully the need to reiterate: You are setting yourself up for disappointment if you watch the anime.
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>>150891521
It's only called Unique because there are no reports of having another player using it.

Heck, the existence of the skill was well hidden for 6 months, so it's possible someone else would have gotten the skill.

Case in point, you can't prove unique means that it's really unique.
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>>150891693
It's okay, I'm thinking of reading Progressive after I finish the anime.
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>>150891206
Gladly read 80+ vol of kiseki work.
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>>150891842
Kayaba states that his unique skill is indeed, well, unique.
Furthermore, he goes out of his way to state that there were indeed other unique-unique skills, roughly equal in power, that were never discovered, and never will be.
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>>150888095
That's interesting.
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>>150891904
Wait, it has a manga? What's the difference between the light novel and manga of Progressive and which one should I read?
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>>150891920
If so, I wonder what would happen if someone else garned a new record while he was training the skill. Would his skill just dissappear suddenly? Or would it be pointless at that time?
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>>150888017
This was one thing that actually was explained. Kayaba was a big fat chuuni who wanted to live out his dream story about this fantasy world. In that world there has to be heroes and those heroes have to be stronger and better than everyone else.

Basically SAO was never designed to be balanced or even a real MMO, it was designed by a psychopath who wanted to live out his lifelong fantasy.
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>>150891982
The manga sucks by default. Go read the LN instead.

>>150892011
This.
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Holy shit, you guys weren't lying when you said this anime was bad. It was never foreshadowed at all and suddenly he's some master programmer.
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>>150891999
Actually, it's very likely that if another candidate appeared, he would get a different unique skill.
The endgame plan was essentially 'only the people with unique skills would be able to beat the final boss.' Kayaba's plan through the whole game was to scout potential candidates to replace him and carry on his will for Alicization after he kills himself to create the Medicuboid. Whoever shows a great love and care for VR and VR technology, with a clear drive to see it go places, is considered.
In fact, the whole final boss battle, with the 'cheating death' for both Asuna and Kirito was a means for Kayaba to solidify the gravity of Kirito's new undertaking. "If you're not careful, your path will devour you and everyone you love." kind of deal.
I can assure you that if another unique skill appeared, Kayaba would be the first to see how his candidates would use it.
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>>150892108
Just wait until the part where he builds a robot capable of housing an artificial intelligence with intelligence equal to a human.

So he's not just a programmer, but also an engineer, expert in robotics and an expert in artificial intelligence to boot.
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>Watch Isekai
>Watch modern anime
>Wow why is this bad
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>>150892108
Yet Again
This isn't some stupid shit; he literally just copied Yui's file into an item before she disappeared. I bet at least 50% of us here knows how to use "help" and "copy".
>>150892167
And yes, he was studying robotics after FD Arc on English Forums to accommodate Yui's needs

There are actual reasons why the anime is bad; these are not it. It's the director.
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>>150892303
Stop sucking snob's dick.
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>>150891206
>80+ volumes
What, the fuck, how many monkeys do they employ to prduce such quantity?
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>>150892826
Quite apparently none.
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>>150891469
>Actually, a skill that only unlocks if you beat some worldwide record sounds like a fun challenge, imho.
Yeah, let's reward OP players with skills that make them make gap between them ond other players even bigger.
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>>150892826
It's just a hypothesis since Progressive is supposed to show Kirito clearing the floors in great detail. There's four volumes out so far and it has only covered 5 floors. Considering the pace, it wouldn't be surprising to expect 1 to 3 floors every volume. Anything more than that would just lose the purpose of Progressive.
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Is rape possible in the VR MMOs?
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>>150892937
Would that make SAO Progressive the longest light novel series of all time?

I mean seriously, that's about 74 volumes if it does 1 floor per volume from now on, which is also approximately 30-40 years that the writing of progressive would have to span.

I honestly find it hard to believe that Kawahara can keep it up for that long.
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>>150888095
>used to
Why was it removed? That's a pretty cool concept.
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>>150893892
It probably became too pay to win.
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>>150888095
Nobody cares about your shit game you wolfshirt faggot
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>>150893109
I agree as well, making Progressive was too much of a risk since he'd end up rushing it again, or stopping it completely. He should have just started a new series while writing SAO since the brand is too big to suddenly end.
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>>150889084
>a good story that has mmo realism and focuses on some aspects of community building in mmos is log horizon
>literally trapped in another world and they aren't playing an MMO

Everytime.
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>>150891982
>What's the difference between the light novel and manga of Progressive and which one should I read?

They're extremely different, but plotwise, it's technically the same. The same people die, the same bosses are fought.

Read both of them.
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>>150893109
Basically only 1 volume comes out a year, and he's already skipping 2016.
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>>150893109
>Would that make SAO Progressive the longest light novel series of all time?
Guin Saga (グイン・サーガ Guin Sāga) is a best-selling heroic fantasy novel series by the Japanese author Kaoru Kurimoto, in continuous publication since 1979. A record 100 volumes were originally planned, but the final total stands at 130 volumes and 22 side-story novels.
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>>150888017
Ow, and don't mind the dual wielding axes guy in EP 4.
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>>150892826
Actually, I wonder if Kawahara and his management ever considered pulling a Churchill and hiring a team of ghostwriters. His prose isn't exactly accomplished or distinctive and the volume of work he has ahead of him is huge.
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>>150889711
You are a winner
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>>150894522
It's a dual axe
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>>150888872
Are you retarded? He was the highest level player.
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>>150892349
Someone did a pretty good job of explaining this, but basically if he had access to the source code for the whole game which magically allowed him to access and change it from WITHIN the game in a language built for VR that hadn't been released to the public that he somehow magically knew, why did he bother bullshitting with an artificial intelligence program when he could have done something useful like, i don't know, enable the logout feature?
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>>150894738
what is that?
is it an axe with one handle that splits like a fork to have two axes?
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>>150894962
yes.
that's why it doesn't count
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>>150894738
Watch the damn episode, he clearly attacks with both of his hands, each holding an axe
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>>150892011
>Paralysis is ultra broken
>Melee weapons only

How did a shitty MMO get so many buyers
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>>150892962
Only if the victim keeps her ethics turned off at all times. While harrassment gets a 'warp offender to prison option', even if the victim can't press said button, I'm fairly sure continued offense teleports the offender anyway. Or disconnects them.
Even if the victim were paralyzed and had their finger moved to disable ethics, ethics could very well be locked by age or preferences. Or, the act of moving somebody against their consent would probably also trigger the harrassment punishment.
In the case of SAO, I wouldn't think taking the risk is worth it, but the female and male both have to consent for nonconsentual sex.
In the end, I guess it all depends on whether or not Cardinal is feeling particularly kinky.
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>>150895025
First VR MMO.
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>>150895025
If a VR MMO as ambitious as SAO existed, people would have bought it in Day 1. Also Paralysis isn't that broken, it just seemed broken since it became a death game.
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>>150888039
Fpbp.
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>>150894522
that one's just a straight up blunder

most fans i've seen either accept it as an oversight or reconcile it by considering the axes as a paired weapon, whereas dual blades lets the player equip different swords in both hands simultaneously and use them with a unique skillset
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>>150894522
>>150895295
>>150895017
You clearly did not watch the show. There is a difference between using sword skills and attacking manually. The point of the dual wield skill is that you can use special sword skills with two weapons.
Anyone can equip two weapons, but you would only be able to use sword skills with one of them. The other one would have to used manually.
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>>150895212
>Paralysis isn't that broken,


You can throw a shitty dagger at an over-leveled player to stun them for a good 2 minutes.
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>>150895375
Now that's just grasping at straws.

>can use special sword skills with two weapons.
Was the opposite of that ever mentioned?
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>>150888017
because SAO is a meme that got way too far

if wasn't for anime Kawahara would be another hack LN writer that struggles to pay his bills
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>>150895691
Which straws, you fucker?
Player one wields 2 weapons. He doesn't have dual-wield skills, only one-handed skills. Therefore he can't dual wield effectively.
Player two also wields 2 weapons with dual wield skills. He has access to dual wield skills, thus can dual-wield effectively.
It's like a priest using a two-hander. It's not like you can't do it, but you are retarded if you do.
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>>150888017

It's been some time since I've seen the anime so correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought there were several people out there with unique skills? I seem to recall the leader of some faction having a unique skill.
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>>150889084
IIRC, Kawahara actually played MMOs quite extensively, mostly English-language ones.
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>>150888190
Close, but not really.
Kayaba wanted to have epic showdown with him as final boss and other 10 heroes, each with special skill.
But only Kirito showed up with one of the skills. So he decided to go 1v1
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>>150896068
>But only Kirito showed up with one of the skills. So he decided to go 1v1
He would have given skills over time. There were still plenty of floors to go until 100.
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>>150895888
>I seem to recall the leader of some faction having a unique skill
That was literally the game dev in disguise and he was the only other person to have one
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>>150894943
That's assuming it was simply disabled. Kayaba could have completely removed the code to do that in order to better cover himself in case the police tracked him down and kicked in his door.

Also, I don't think we ever actually saw a logout feature in the first place. It may have never existed.
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>>150896278

Thats obviously not true because we see the log out feature at the end. Not to mention as a beta tester Kirito will have seen the log out option as well.

Not only that, but if Kirito can write enough code to program a custom pet within a few seconds he should also be skilled enough to add in a log out feature right? even if it forcibly removes the player from the game like a /kick all from server command or some shit.
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>>150896278
>Also, I don't think we ever actually saw a logout feature in the first place. It may have never existed.
Okay, I know I'm being a moron for responding to a tripfag, but you do realize that a large part of the plot revolves around Kirito being a beta tester for the original, right? Obviously a logout feature existed, or he would've been stuck in there since before the show started.
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>>150896475
>even if it forcibly removes the player from the game like a /kick all from server command or some shit.

And risk the nerv gear frying everyone's brains because they didn't end the game correctly?
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>>150896650

I gave one example dude, im a guy that has 0 knowledge outside of hosting servers with friends, Kirito in all his knowledge could maybe have even cancelled the VR gear's overheating effect if all he has to is search for the code and delete it, if the standard we are expecting is him being able to create an entirely new item and copy a limitless ai onto it in a couple of seconds, a lot of things are possible.
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>>150888129
you mean its every eastern mmo ever. Korea/chinese/jap players do not give a single fuck about "lol we are all equal" and their mmos often have achievements and monthly rankings or some other system that offers rare and unique op shit to players if they manage to be the best player on their server in whatever activity is being measured.
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>>150896968
And if you don't play them, read basically any MMO WN.
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>>150896968
Shieet, with my African American genes I can win one of their mmo's dick measuring contests
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>fantasy anime
>with an MMO interface and logic that applies to everything they do
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>>150894522
Thanks again, A-1.
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>>150895375
Both axes are glowing in the show, so he's using Sword Skills with both hands. They fucked up.
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>tfw no good anime mmo
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>>150895554
You can have a shitty dagger, but you need high level poison.

Also, stun lasts 10 minutes, what the fuck.
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>>150896479
In the beta. I meant it never existed in the release version. And as for >>150896475 they didn't log out, the game ended. That's a very big difference in concept and implementation.

>>150896815
Converting an entity to an item was not a new feature. We had already seen it earlier with the dragon familiar. Kirito simply applied the same mechanism, which is normally not available to the players except within the pre-coded game logic. See Progressive's "Unlimited Pantsu Works" (pictured here) scene for another case where Kirito exploited an obscure inventory trick
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>>150896278

One of the novels mentions how he would log out and his assistant would take over Heathcliff while he slept or ate, so the code was there. I think it's one of the Alicization books.
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>>150896968
What's the problem with that, it's a reward for being literally the very best.
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>>150888017
I liked how SAO looked and how VR was a BCI instead of the screen strapped to your face systems we currently have.
That's the only real good things I can say about it.
I liked the abridged series more than the actual anime
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>>150888017
>Yo imma overwrite the game's programming with my MC powers
Why didn't the author just write Sao as a true isekai, at least Deus ex machina is more feasible in a real world setting
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>>150899238
>Asuna's look of terror
Every time.
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>>150888017
it would be cool if you had a chance to be a special guy
like 1 in a million chance
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So did he ever release info on what the other should were or how they were supposed to be gotten?
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>>150900898
Don't we all
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>>150902639
There's some listed in WN content, and Archery is one of the listed ones in the video game adaptations.

But I don't think any of them have been officially listed in anything LN related.
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