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Shuumatsu no Izetta

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Do you think Izetta scored?

With a date like this, I find it hard to imagine she didn't.
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>>150840882
Is water wet?
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>>150840882
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>>150840943
Fine certainly was.
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>>150840882
There's been zoom ins of there face in the final frame, if they aint kissing, there about too.

The claim they had sex is alot more in question though.
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Fine made Izetta weak in the knees
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>>150821064

https://a.pomf.cat/pojhcv.webm
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<< Demon Lord of the round table, I'm counting on you! >>
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>>150841256
I just remembered the video of the Pandora dub somebody posted and how painful it was.
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>>150840882
Nope, they are friends and nothing more.
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>>150841566
The date says otherwise.
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>>150841711
Friends do nighttime strolls all the time.
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>>150840882
Nope, I don't remember anything close to lesbian sex being shown in this series.
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>>150841812
Not while caressing each other cheeks.
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>>150841711
>date

Nothing wrong with spending quality time with a friend when both could die the next day
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>>150841256
That was lewder than I thought.
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>>150841875
Everything wrong with replying two times though.
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>>150840882
Where did Izetta learn to be such a charmer? Is she just a natural?
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>>150841957
She's going to die soon, so she might as well alpha up before it happens.
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My name is not important. What is important is what I'm going to do. I just fucking hate Eylstadt and the human worms feasting on its carcass. My whole life is just hot, fiery hatred and I always wanted the archduchess to die violently. This is the time of vengeance and no clone is worth saving. And I will put in the grave as many as I can. It's time for me to kill, and it's time for Izetta to die. My genocide crusade begins here.
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>>150842250
Sophie's so cool, I want her to nuke my country.
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>>150842335
She looks better than Izetta for sure.
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>>150842697
kys
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>>150842715
But he's right.
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>>150842738
No
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>>150842250
Such a lust for revenge
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>>150842335
I want her to survive and regain her will to live. But this won't happen. Nothing good will ever happen to her.
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>>150842780
They just want an evil witch that kills people as an opponent.
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>>150842738
Maybe if you like EDGE with an extra helping of EDGE and a side of EDGE hold the mayo.
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>>150843176
Stop parroting.
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>>150843206
Come on, Anonymous.

We all know that if she were any more of an edgemeister, she'd literally be a character in Chuunibyou demo koi ga shitai.
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I am going to enjoy seeing the evil Sophie btfo by the beautiful and pure Izetta.
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>>150843423
>straight girl is evil while the lesbian is beautiful and pure

Does not compute.
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>>150843473
>straight girl is evil while the lesbian is beautiful and pure
>Does not compute.
Indeed.
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>>150843423
Sophie will go down surely, but she's taking the yuri nation with her.
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>>150843659
>Sophie will go down surely
Yep.
>but she's taking the yuri nation with her.
Nah.
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>>150843659
You don't need braincells to know that >>150843691 is the only ending.
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only subtext
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>>150842768
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>it's an atomic bombs are evil and so are the country that uses them episode

Surprised they didn't just make the United States of Atlanta the bad guys...yet.
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>>150843176
Same character?
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>>150840882
girls can't love girls!
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>>150840882
>>150840996
>>150841566
>>150841711
>>150841821

Anons, it was a metaphor. They weren't literally going "on a magical broomstick ride." Don't be so naive and literal-minded.

>>>/wsg/1441085
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>>150844199
You know? I kinda love the implications of the previous episode.

>Made war against entire NotEurope.
>Sign a pact of no aggression with the NotRusia.
>Prepare a fucking nuclear bomb to force the entire NotEurope into submission.

>Not inviting the NotRussian to the peace negotiations.
>Planning to attack NotRussia only after the rest of the continent have surrendered under the threat of a nuke.

Apparently, the NotRussia is stubborn enough to keep on fighting after a nuke have been delivered to another country, and strong enough to not mess with them if there's another conflict with another country.

Fuck, apparently the NotGerman are planning to go to war with the NotRussia even with a nuke on their hands.
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Done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4op_44Dn-U
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>>150844199
Atlanta is going to steal the mahoubomb in the finale and pave the way for an S2 that never happens.
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>>150844624
Just what you'd expect from the master, Yoshino.
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>>150844654
This is amazing.
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>>150844654
Perfect.
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>>150844199
>Implying Atlanta war dick didnt became flaccid the moment Sophie leveled London on her own

Im glad they didnt become relevant, Atlanta had no place in the story and conflict whatsoever
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>>150844654
Nice desune
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>>150844654
I'm embarrassed for everyone involved.

But it was okay.
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>>150844654
Simply perfect.
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>>150844654
BRAVO
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>>150844654
I unironically like this even though it's technically an AMV.
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OST when. I need it
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>>150844624
If it was a metaphor then it's up for interpretation. Did the director say what he meant by that metaphor? Did he even say it was a metaphor? Or did he say nothing because it's to be understood literally - a magical broomstick ride in a show about a witch and her idol she feels indebted to?
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>>150845504
10 days.
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>>150845590
Of course it is up for interpretation, that's kind of the point of creative media. But you can't go saying that then flinging out
>Did the director say
As if it were some kind of argument.

You can't have it both ways, anon, so which is it? Open to interpretation or locked to the director's intentions?
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>>150840882
Well seeing as she was quite literally killing herself to facilitate the date I'd very much hope so.
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This thread is getting weird again.
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>>150845963
It's just anons grasping at straws as usual.
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>>150845983
I'll grasp your straw, mate.
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>>150844635
>Apparently, the NotRussia is stubborn enough to keep on fighting after a nuke have been delivered to another country, and strong enough to not mess with them if there's another conflict with another country.
You can really feel the influence of Wargaming with this.
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>>150845909
It's open to interpretation until the director gives us something concrete. And until that happens, all this yuri is just subtext with nothing real.
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>>150840882
Izetta's score scored. Can't wait for the OST.
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>>150846078
Its not fucking subtext.
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>>150846078
>>150846159
Please tell me this is just one guy replying to himself. Not even /u/ is this easy to troll.
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>>150846159
Okay, where is the overt yuri text?
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>>150846078
That's the answer I expected, but somehow I am still disappointed in you, anon.

Word of God is a terrible thing to live by; this board may as well not exist if that's the best level of discussion we can hope to have.
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>>150846186
I'm not trolling. It's just that somebody's wrong on the internet, and I feel I must convince them to remove their yuri goggles and see the reality in all its crushing splendor.
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>>150846032
If the day is saved because Sophie cannot fight superior Volgarian mid-war stalanium armored tank units coming to liberate the people of Eys with their impressive speed, precise on the move shooting, and advanced log based cloaking devices then we can be sure Serb has provided them with accurate information to portray. Very much unlike those weak Panzer IIIs that were destroyed by simple medieval weapons due to their poor build quality and untrained crews rushed to the front to soften infantry positions for sure.
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>>150846328
You're just a het faggot butt hurt that its canon now.
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>>150846328
Only 5 days more till the ending and /u/shitters calling the show shit because their delusion didnt happen at all
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>>150846397
What exactly is canon now?
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>>150846343
>tfw every volgan soldier is wearing ushanka and when he's not fighting inferior germanian army he's giving food to the civilians and dancing to kalinka
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>>150846328
The broomstick ride was a (incredibly obvious- not sure how you missed it-) metaphor for the tender caresses of first (and, of course, last) love.
Go ahead, try and prove me wrong.
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>>150846528
Not to mention they kiss off-screen
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>>150846528
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>>150846521
If notGermany's revolution didn't happen, can we say that the notRussian revolution didn't happen either? Perhaps Communism never happened.
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>>150846435

Oh no anon. I don't think it will be a yuri end.
They fell in love, they made love.
Now Izetta will die or disappear after exhausting herself through use of the jewel and Fine will be consigned to a loveless relationship with the King of England.

It's really the only way it can end.
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Say something nice about this kind and innocent girl.
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>>150846652
She had two hard lives.
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>>150846652
She's an okay singer?
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>>150846652
She probably burned very nicely.
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>>150846652
She's a rare limited edition first print.
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>>150846528
There's no proving you wrong (or right for that matter) because it's your interpretation of what you think is a (incredibly obvious) metaphor. I can just as easily drum up a different but equally viable interpretation, but I don't even need to as the metaphor might not even be there. What you're experiencing is called confirmation bias.
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>>150846528
>>150846878
You (that is, the both of you) are shitting up this thread (and probably several others by merely being around this one), and it's my (objective) opinion that you clearly need to get a room (that you can have buttsex in).
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>>150846652
I wanna fug her.
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>>150846652
She proves that straight women are evil.
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>>150847357
Shit, you're right.
Sophie was betrayed by /het/ princess for being /het/ herself.
But what about this sexually frustrated lady? Is she evil too?
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>>150847533
She's molesting discarded Sophie clones
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>>150847533
She doesn't seem to be very happy about anything she's doing and the only other female she's ever been shown within a mile of is a psychopathic zombie so who knows.
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>>150846950
There's literally (by which I mean literally (as opposed to figuratively (though this doesn't need to be said (thus the parentheses)))) nothing wrong with writing your sentences like a lisp function.
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>>150847581
Chances are she was forced to eat Sophie's zombie cooch to keep her spirits up in the times between killing Eylstadtians.
Science division-chan has a hard life.
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Your face when?
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>>150847751
>eat Sophie's zombie cooch to keep her spirits up in the times between killing Eylstadtians
It doesn't seem to work that well.
Maybe that makes her so pissed.
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>>150847818
Hardly a surprise.
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>>150847818
Will this have been his last major appearance in the show? If so, then I'm okay with that.
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>>150847818
>I'm disappointed
Fuck off, you're not my real dad!
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>>150847849
She's doing her best here. It's not like cunnilingus was ever in her job description.
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>>150840882
Why does she keep riding brooms and rifles and stuff? She levitated fucking tanks, surely she can manage something more comfy like a car or a bed.
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>>150848127
>Why does she keep riding brooms and rifles and stuff?
Because
- heavier things require more magic
- magic flows better through long, cylindrical objects
- magic flows even better if that long, cylindrical object is made of wood
- some other reason that comes down to some bullshit magic rules
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>yfw you were up all night eating pussy but have an important meeting in the morning
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>>150848501
Damn, I saw those shadows under her eyes but didn't think for a moment about what they meant.
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>>150848826
This show has the deepest metaphors.
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>>150848826
Finé really was having a mental breakdown since the end of last episode.
Good thing Izetta spent her off time mastering the Bright-slap and it's healing capacities.
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>>150848905
I love Fine abuse.
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>>150840882
Obligatory

>Izetta goes coma after getting seriously injured during the final battle
>wakes up 15 years later
>Fine is married to King Henry and has a baby
>Izetta sheds the tears of joy, knowing that she's saved her princess and Eystadt
>the babes is named Izetta
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>>150849050
HAHAHA KEKED MY MAN AM I RITE???? XDD
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>>150849050
That would actually be great.
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>>150849050
>Izetta goes coma after getting seriously injured during the final battle
>wakes up 15 years later
>Fine is married to the BMW CEO and they've motorized the entire population
>Izetta sheds the tears of joy, knowing that she's saved her princess and Eystadt
>everyone in Eylstadt rides around in cars named Izettas
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>>150848940
We still need the lesbian NTR mindbreak doujinshi starring Finé as Sophie's breeding sow.
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Wtf i love Sophie now.
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I hope the based Brits pull through even further.
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>>150849226
I wonder what was she thinking.
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>>150849301
Britain will do nothing.
Russia will do nothing.
America might do something, but it won't be helpful.

WWII will be won entirely by the Duchy of Eylstadt.
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>>150849304
"Gee, I sure hope someone isn't plotting against me."
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>>150849301
>britbong
>doing anything cool
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>>150849304
>I hope I get to live a long, fulfilling life with the prince
>I hope my descendants don't turn into lesbians
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>>150849320
>America will fuck up royally, but it will be helpful
Fix'd
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>>150844654
Wow. That came out beautifully. I watched it with a huge grin on my face.
Fantastic job.

Have a shop my brother made for me.
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You now remember Jonas
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>>150849450
You now remember this lad
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>>150849450
Was that the "I'm too stupid to live" soldier?
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>>150849542
Thanks for reminding me.
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>>150849523
He was converted to Yurism in a matter of seconds.
Based Biggles.
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>>150849763
Yurism was what killed him in the end.
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>>150849797
When did he die? I don't recall that
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>>150849819
He crashed the plane, with no survivors.
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>>150849838
He was a big guy.
For yuri.
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Do you reckon the Brits will somehow manage to throw their weight around to get Fine through?
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>>150849933
Weren't they already conquered?
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>>150849995
No. The Germanians attacked London from the air and that's it.
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>>150849340
She's perflat.
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2 schemers 1 room
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>>150850323
That entire scene was super gay but was overshadowed in massive gayness by Fine and Izetta.
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>>150850361
>That entire scene was super gay
It really wasn't.
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I wonder what Izetta's plan is.
She told Finé something about the magic stone, but they cut away.

I really wish that Izetta can out-ruse Sophia without having to drain all her own life away.
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>>150850375
I bet you think Ben Hur wasn't a gay movie either.
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I don't know why I even tried.
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>>150850375
It was incredibly gay.
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>>150850361
>super gay
It's mainly because of Suwabe. His voice is smooth as fuck.
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>>150850492
Also this.
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>>150850433
>>150850504
Can't two people just talk to each other without /a/ thinking that they're going to fuck?
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>>150850529
It was much more homoerotic tension than imminent ass-pounding.
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>>150850529
No
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>>150850492
>dat quality

Don't try to improve it. Apply a number of filters that can make the pic look like something really from the 1940s, starting with black/white stuff and few flim scratches
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>>150850529
You should read the interview for Ben Hur. It was very much intended to be gay. Even if this anime doesn't end with actual lesbian end, you know damn well what the staff is doing.
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>>150850397
I think she is going to shoot Sophie until she dies.
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>>150841256
not bad
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>>150851396
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>>150851396
(((Germanian SS)))
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>>150851396
This guy really was enjoying himself humiliating Fine. I like him.
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>>150851396
How did the Emperor let a Jew sneak into the Germanian SS?
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>>150851443
Not enough Fine's suffering.
Can I ask more in the last eps?
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>>150847818

Why is an airforce pilot doing road patrols?
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>>150851497
She's gonna be captured now, so sure
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>>150851533
He's in on it.
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>>150851497
But after getting slapped by Izetta, Fine won't break so easily anymore. That's not fun.
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>>150851497
Definitely.
I want to see more of this.
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>>150851544
Yeah. I said before that all the cliffhangers so far have been bullshit. The pilot is going to be friendly and say "thanks for the plane, RIP buttboy" and whatnot.
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>>150851570
>>150851641
>>150851657
I wish I could retcon Izetta out of existence, we might have gotten this Fine as she struggles with her daily life as the kaiser's abused wife.
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>>150851670

I want to see you struggle as the kaiser's abused boytoy
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>>150851706
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>>150851676
>Fine suffering
I never knew I wanted this so much. I hope there's more to come.
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>>150851775
A ryona doujin or two would be nice.
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>>150851775
Let's hope that she'll deliver.
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>>150851539
>captured
By whom?
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>>150851775
>I hope there's more to come.
She got better.
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>>150851669
>The pilot is going to be friendly
That's why he ripped Sieg's papers and said he was disappointed, of course
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>>150851838
Reich
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>>150851670
I've been wishing for this since ep1...
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>>150844654
I love you so much
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>>150851845
It's all part of the plan.
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>>150844654
>video not available
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>>150851841
>you will never be slapped by Izetta

Why live
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>>150852104
works for me. what country?
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>>150852098
I hope this show is better than that >_>
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>>150852164
Nevermind
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>>150844654
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4op_44Dn-U
ty vm it's beautiful
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>>150852013
Thanks.
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>>150844654
Not working for me either. London.
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>>150852280
Are you watching on your phone?
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>>150852280
bloody hell mate
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>>150840882

>Huh huh hey fine
>huhuhuh yeah izetta?
>I think we scored
>Oh yeah heheheheh
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>>150852951
Is this how yuri sex works?
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>>150841256
Recording this must've been awkward as hell.
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>>150852986

moreso doing them in a bevis and butthead style

but bevis and butthead itself is kind of a gay joke. So it works I guess
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>>150851641
>>150851657
>>150851676
>>150851676
>her hope and optimism gone: the Fine chronicles
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Does the comic feature Fine as a damsel-in-distress?
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>>150852280
Google how to proxy bypass.
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So, why Izetta was captured by notGermans before first episode?
Is she going to be captured in the last episode and create a time loop with power of magic to save Fine?
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>>150853640
Fuhrer was already doing secret research on witches.
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>watch Episode 11
>desperately hope for the characters to evolve a little bit from the rigid pieces of shit that have been leaden weights around the show's ankles
>absolutely shit-tier passionate speech from Izetta that immediately snaps Fine out of her lull, once again cementing the fact that she has no depth
>Fine immediately loses any chance of progression she would have hoped to make, becoming the exact same inflexible trash the literal next scene
>Izetta literally slapping any chance of the show being interesting out of Fine's 2-Dimensional face

Well, this show had hope. It's a shame the writers want to pretend it's anything more than a generic, forced love story that lacks the balls to do anything adventurous with the story. Instead, it just teases that it may be interesting, before dropping itself right back on-track for a happy hand-holding ending.
Blunder of the season to be very honest with you family.
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>>150853753
At this point the only people watching it are yurifags or those who appreciate trainwreck plots. I am both
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>>150853753
Cool story bro
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>>150853753
It's 12 episodes long. Were you seriously expecting things to progress otherwise?
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>>150853916
There was a faint hope/possibility that they'd pull a late-game twist to make episode 12 compelling after stringing us along to the dull outcome.

>It's 12 episodes long.

Oh, are we pretending that shows can't feature character development that's at least somewhat interesting in a one-cour, or have you just never seen it happen?
If the former, you're dumb. If the latter, how sad for you.
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>>150854037
Show doesn't really need character development, though. What it does lack, and desperately needs, is character depth.

Finé and Izetta being static characters is fine as long as you can know why they are like that. Which isn't obviously the case here.
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>>150853336

Someone make this
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>>150854037
Except that the post I was replying to is bringing this up after 10 episodes have passed. At that late into the game, you either have no new significant development or it's rushed as fuck and thus badly done development.

>If the former, you're dumb. If the latter, how sad for you.
Nah, I find it sadder for you that you are this good at projecting shit and making up assumptions that's not implied.
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how are they going to resolve everything in one episode?
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>>150854217
They won't.
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>>150854138
I agree, but 11 episodes in, no meaningful depth will be added, so a twist of character development in an attempt to actually make it somewhat interesting was the only bet of remotely redeeming this shit-show.

>>150854169
>At that late into the game, you either have no new significant development or it's rushed as fuck and thus badly done development.

See above, pretty much.
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>>150854217
Nuke explodes and Europe goes out in flame. The moral is: nukes are bad!
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>>150854274
They're still mad about that?
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>>150854169
>you either have no new significant development or it's rushed as fuck

Actually it has been mounting for pretty much the entire season, so them developing a little this last episode wouldn't have felt rushed at all.
They just used the mounting tension/plot-points as disposable drama-fodder.
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>>150854234
Well, I agree. Finé and Izetta are static characters and have linked development. That's how they seem to have conceived them. Too bad that they fucked the execution of it.
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>>150854304
Yes
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>>150854037
Late-game twists are often the WORST you can get for character development. Fun for plot reasons, but usually to the detriment to the characters.

>stringing us
>us
Seems more like that's just you expecting more than what it is. Izetta, like Regalia, has been very by-the-books and has little to no incentives to go otherwise.
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>>150854304
I could say the same with Pearl Harbor
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>>150854345
>Fun for plot reasons, but usually to the detriment to the characters.

There is literally nowhere to go but up for Izetta and Fine in terms of the quality of their characters.
They're at a point of bad wherein you may as well do something for fun plot reasons, because the characters can't be any worse.
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>>150853497
Fine's the Lois to Izetta's Clark.
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>>150854357
On an unrelated note, Izetta's almost as bad as Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor.
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>>150854565
Come on now.
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You know this was inevitable now.
>RIFFRAFF
>STREET RAT
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>>150854685
You're right, it's worse.
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Just to present a different opinion I'll say I like how MCs and supporting characters are written
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>>150840882
I'd like to believe that this is just a start of their love story. That later both of them will come to terms with the fact hat maybe they're a little bit more than friends. Cue Izetta/Fine hijinx where they both try to ask people around them of what the other might feel for them. Royal guard will play matchmaker and make it happen somehow.
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>>150854798
I like it too. It's something very conventional and I like my love stories conventional.
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>>150854732
Give me one reason why Izetta should be considered worse than Pearl Harbor.
you can't
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>>150840981
Fine's like spaghetti, straight until she gets wet.
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>>150854798
I don't hate them, but I don't like them either. They're way too one-dimensional. Izetta, for instance, should have come to care more about things other than Fine, and interact more with people other than Fine too, I think. And there should have been more to Fine than her devotion to her people too. I mean, I understand these are their core character traits and that's okay, but if that's all there is to them, it makes for pretty bland characters. And it wouldn't have been that hard to add a little more "meat" to their characterization so it feels like a waste of potential too.
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>>150854917
I can't think of a reason it should be considered better either. Not the same anon though.
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>>150842335
>Sophie will never peg you

why even live
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>>150854949
Accurate.
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Why is Fine so useless?
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>>150855323
Why not? She's just a princess.
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>>150855357
So are you but I don't see you being useless.
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>>150855418
>So are you
No, I'm pretty sure I'm not a princess.
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>>150855462
You're my princess, baby.
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>>150855504
I wish I was a princess. Wouldn't be such a poorfag then.
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>>150842715
He's right
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>>150854798
Same.
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>>150844654
holy shit
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Will he make it out of this alive?
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>>150855867
Of course not, he's a man.
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>>150855897
He's a queen, if you know what I mean.
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>>150855897
Punished Hans survived though
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>>150855928
You just jinxed him.
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>>150853497
>>150854410
>in the Izetta universe there is a series of ridiculously high budget animated theatrical films in Atlanta about Izetta's weirdly homoerotic adventures with the duchess of Eylstadt, fighting Germanians and various villains of the week.
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>>150854949
You really won't get very good flexible spaghetti by just making it wet. You need to boil the water as well.
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>>150856095
Don't worry, Izetta makes her both hot and wet.
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>>150855913
Nah, Elliot's the Queen, Emperor's on top
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>>150856028
>This anime is actually existing in Izetta's universe
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>>150855867
He'll grow himself a clone and transfer consciousness after the death of the original body. Then he and Sophie will build galactic empire several centuries later
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>>150856185
>exists
fml.
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>>150856137
I'm sure she does.
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I've heard of afterglow but this is ridiculous.
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Post your ideal endings.
>Fine delivers a rousing speech at the Westrian conference, unveils the dark nature of Germany and Izetta's current efforts
>Izetta crashing her rifle with no survivors, piecing the stone back together and triggering a Not!Atomic explosion, decimating Germania's forefront magical technology, herself, and Sophie
>the Witch menace is finally rid of this world
>Germania is defeated
>Fine aims for world peace in honour of Izetta
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>>150856338
Ideal ending = on screen kiss, no nip tricks involved.
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>>150856338
Sophie kills everyone.
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>>150856338
izetta and fine adopt a baby sophie and live out the rest of their days together in peace and quiet
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>>150856362
I change my answer to this
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>>150841256
When are we getting a dub version of episode 11's moonlight flight?
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>>150855306
>wet loli Fine & Izetta
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>>150856338
All Germanian scum die except Scientist Keiki and Fine and Izetta get married in a huge ceremony attended by all the soldiers and that one British pilot and also all the royal guard are paired up with each other in suit+dress pairings.
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>>150856571
I'm sure that pilot died saving Izetta after she got captured.
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>>150856486
That was cringey
>lol lets simulate orgasm because we're too toothless to do anything but simulate
>FINE!
>FINE!
>AAAAH FINE!
Was awkward as shit.
Fine should have told that cunt to shut up.
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>>150856338
>Timeskip at the end of the episode
>Fine is speaking to her children with some unnamed father.
>"And that kids, is how we rewrote the legend of the white witch"
>Camera pans to a picture of Izetat on the wall
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>>150856641
>Fine should have told that cunt to shut up.
She probably doesn't want to get slapped again.
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>>150856688
I can see it happening.
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>>150856302
So, are we to conclude that their sex was so intense it knocked off the mountain top?
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>>150856641
You're the one that needs to shut the fuck up.
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>>150856625
The pilot that kamikazed was the Eylstadt pilot that Izetta was riding with to get to the battle with Sophie, not a British pilot 1000km away.
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>>150856742
I think they just melted the snow.
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>>150856768
Elystadt has planes?
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>>150856338
>izetta defeats sophie but she uses most of her lifeforce to do so
>fine is kept hostage at the peace conference by germanians
>izetta bursts into the conference hall and informs everybody that otto's plan have failed
>izetta have one last conversation with fine
>her last words are "fine, don't forget about your promise"
>fine cries when everybody is just staring in silence at this scene
>time skip
>we see germanian woman from science division in civil clothing approaching atlantian checkpoint in now occupied germania, she's holding something in her hands
>soldier stops her and asks "what's this" and points his rifle at her hands
>"just a little child"
>soldiers comes closely and we can see that's she's indeed holding an infant
>"okay lady, you're good to go" says soldier with a smile on his face
>after woman takes few steps soldier turns once more and shouts "what's it's name?"
>woman smiles and answers "sophie"
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I'd totally let Izetta go on a ride on my magical broomstick with Finé.
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This tank crew must be very nice.
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>>150844654
This is so corny and great, thanks anon.
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>>150856338
Fine and Izetta fake their deaths after defeating Sophie and escape together, Europe is liberated by Volgans.
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>>150856137
I don't know. Has Fine ever blushed once witch Izetta?
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So this is how witches and princess have sex
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>>150857358
Once during the magical ride.
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>>150857358
>Has Fine ever blushed once witch Izetta?
>witch Izetta
you did this on purpose, didn't you?
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>>150857358
>>150857403
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>>150857379
>princess
*archdyke
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>>150857629
Her cheeks are just rosy because it's cold. There's nothing sensual or romantic about this scene!
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>>150857629
I guess this proves Fine is straight. No way she can have decent lesbian sex with those claws.
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>>150856800
Pretty passionate indeed.
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>>150858070
she let them go since izetta was in a coma
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>>150856362
It doesn't have to be that edgy. But Sophie successfully launching the nuke on Landsbruck, despite Izetta's efforts to stop her, is something I wouldn't mind seeing.
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>>150858070
Can do ok with mouth only.
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>>150858515
Actually now we can have Sophie destroying Landsbruck with both Izetta and Fine staying alive.
That would be a worthy ending.
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How long until someone makes a HoI IV mod for this?
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>>150857629
Anyone else think Izzeta looks like she has downs?
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>>150857993
This bait is getting old.
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>>150858515
>>150858898
You and I both know that the only city that'll get witchbombed is Neue Berlin.
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The pan to the moon is very reminiscent of old movies where two characters are about to have sex. It's almost laughable.
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>>150859713
Sad but true. I actually expected both Landsbruck and Neu Berlin to be bombed, too bad there's only one bomb
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>>150844447
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>Izetta dies in the final battle
>Colonel Keikaku tells Fine how to use the cloning technology to "resurrect" Izetta
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>>150840882
Fine fucking scored. She rode Izetta like a broomstick all night.
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>>150860758
I've got feeling that will be the ending.
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>>150860758
Cloning does not restore the memories or the personality, so what's the point? Apart from having a personal magical loli, of course.
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>>150860869
And how would they do that if they need blood of a living witch to awaken a clone?
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>>150860926
Uh, except it did.
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>>150860975
Wasn't she simply taught to hate the Eylstadt? Or maybe it's magic.
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>>150860975
She got her memories after she drunk Izetta's blood, they can't do the same for Izetta clone if both Sophie and Izetta are dead
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>>150861030
>Wasn't she simply taught to hate the Eylstadt?
No.
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>>150860965
What if Izetta's stolen blood works better on Izetta because it's her own blood?

Either that or some power of love shit.
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I have a feeling that the ending will be one of two extremes, either a super safe ending where Izetta lives through the power of friendship and everyone is happy, or a fucking disaster of some kind that warrants multiple shitposting threads appearing at once.
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>>150860758
Ah, yes. Lesbian pregnancy. Just like my porn.

https://exhentai.org/g/925680/9b73429cfd/
https://exhentai.org/g/948737/8dd55e62b7/
https://exhentai.org/g/993729/231d539207/
https://exhentai.org/g/1002445/64c9ec3c3b/
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>>150861265
They're gonna kill Izetta, and I won't be happy.
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>>150861288
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>>150861139
I don't think blood samples will have any effect, but that's just me. Not to mention that bringing back the dead isn't something that should be done
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>>150846652
...nah.
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>>150861265
The number and circumstances of characters dying so far imply a disastrous ending. Though this show really isn't consistent.
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>>150861297
No they won't. The fact they've been presenting her comically dying repeatedly in those comics is proof by itself that they won't actually go for that in the show itself. That's leaving aside that the whole tone of the show doesn't fit some kind of grimderp ending. Edgefags are always confidently pronouncing an eminent bloodbath and they're always wrong.
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>>150861288
Man, way too many of those stories had rape.

Gotta go and make my magical lesbo pregnancy weird.
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>>150861431
>The fact they've been presenting her comically dying repeatedly in those comics is proof by itself that they won't actually go for that in the show itself.
Yes, because black humor isn't a thing.
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>>150861265
I think Izetta will live because Sophie will have a final change of heart and give up her life force to make up for the part that Izetta lost. The two halves of the stone are united, and Fine and Izetta will adopt the last surviving Sophie clone, which is still a baby, and bring her up as White Witch - the Next Generation.
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>>150861511
It isn't when you cancel it out by removing the humor of it, no. That would invalidate the whole point of the comics.
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>>150861571
That's entirely too nice to be true, and you know it.
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>>150861431
Or maybe they will and there won't be a comics for ep12 because she actually dies this time
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>>150861511
>black humor
It's a thing, but I'm not sure if you entirely know what that thing is.

It isn't, if anything, the characters dying in the actual show.
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>>150861571
I like the idea about last Sophie clone surviving just to give her a second chance
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>>150861617
They will turn things around. Izetta won't die in the last comic, but she will in the show.
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>Izetta and Fine both die somehow
>reincarnated in the 21st century as Japanese high school girls
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>>150861703
Okay, but that's still not black humor. Rather, that would just be bittersweet.

And now that I think about it, the show having a Christmas special with the seiyuu also sort of leads me to believe that the finale will be death free. Otherwise, I imagine it would be a bit awkward.
Unless they both die, or something.
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>>150861764
I don't see the sweet part in her dying in the canon.
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>>150861764
>Otherwise, I imagine it would be a bit awkward.
I don't see why. They would just talk about how brave Izetta was in her last moments or some shit like that. Standard thing for seiyuu events.
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>>150861703
No she won't. It's not happening, and I wish the episode would hurry up and come just so edgefags will again be BTFO, just like last season with Qualidea Code. But you never learn, and will be right back at your groundless doomsaying next season, no doubt.
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>>150861764
I wonder if we'll get a special christmas comic like on halloween

izetta and fine mistletoe hijinxs
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>>150861763
A Kannazuki no Miko is fine too.
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>>150861851
I can't wait for "edgefags" to be BTFO too. All three of them.
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>>150861853
I'd honestly be fine with the comic going on long after the series.
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Will Izetta ever love someone as much as she loves her himesama? I'm looking at this in the war veteran perspective wherein the 'brotherhood' they've experienced are forever.
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>>150862099
>Will Izetta ever love someone as much as she loves her himesama?
Clearly, no.

Same for Fine, quite frankly.
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>>150862223
Wow. I like Flip Flappers, but I'm not sure there's THAT much to discuss about it. Unless it's all just shitposting.
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>>150862281
There's a lot to discuss
>speculation
>cockona
>yayaka vs papika
>yuri art
>schizo yurihater
>more cockona
>more speculation
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>>150862281
Really, it's FlipFlaps that gets you, and not fucking Vivid?
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>>150862393
And then there was
>robogranny
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>>150862281
There's a lot more to discuss there than for Izetta.
>>150862431
Vivid was a mistake.
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>>150862492
>Vivid was a mistake
Any show where more than one character has heterochromia is a mistake.
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>>150841256
The link timed out
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>>150862431
Nanoha has always been popular.
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>>150862281
>>150862431
It's because both threads are plagued by the same shitposter.

It's not actually people discussing the show, it's literally all baiting and samefagging.
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>>150862711
Yeah, but strikes isn't Nanoha.
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>>150844654
Bless you.
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>>150862711
I know, but the show itself is so goddamn dry, I'm wondering what the hell could even be getting those numbers?
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>>150862836
>I'm wondering what the hell could even be getting those numbers?
>>>/wsg/1440489
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>Lets ride into a NotGerman controlled zone with a wanted traitor who isn't hiding his face or anything
>"Oh shit why did we get caught" - Sieg, Spy"""master"""

Holy moly that was retarded.
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So, why'd he go with them?
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>>150863461
To be smug when news arrives of Izetta defeating Sophie and her vanguard.
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>>150863461
they needed him to guide and them tell them how to get past the blockades.

he could also bullshit something to the germanian soldiers if necessary
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>>150863547
>Hello Soldaten! I know that I'm travelling with Archduchess of Eylstadt and that's suspicious as fuck, but hey, if you don't tell anybody I'll give each of you a free Sophie clone *wink*
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>>150856812
Someone needs to taxi the one competent component of the military around and provide meat shields against 109s.
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>>150861864
Rape
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>>150841256
>https://a.pomf.cat/pojhcv.webm

Link died
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what did they mean by this?
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>>150862706
>>150864189
https://my.mixtape.moe/bdzxtm.webm

pomf a shit.
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>>150864287
Fine is enjoying the company of her faithful dog as much as she can because she knows it won't be alive much longer.
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>>150864287
that some tickling probably took place on that mountain
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>>150864287
I just want to point out that I really enjoy the detail that Fine is the one doing the more feminine gesture of leaning on Izetta's shoulder.

Personally because I find it makes the scene all the more cute and intimate, but also because I know that tomboy taming is a popular doujin fetish among some people.
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>Berkman be like Sophie can be active for two hours, if Izetta can hold out that long, the missile won't be launched
>"forgets" to mention Germans have a clone factory
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>>150864287
What happens if during rigorous lovemaking on that peak, one of them unconsciously dropped the broom below? Will they be stuck?
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>>150864674
It will still have magic, remember when Izetta dropped the missiles in water.
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>>150864674
Given that Izetta can levitate almost anything, I assume a boulder or really just about anything would work. The broom is just traditional.
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>>150864758
>The broom is just traditional
Especially for hymen breaking.
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>>150864674
More important question: won't Izetta be too tired to bring them back to the palace after sex?
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>>150864758
It needs to be big enough to ride on since she couldnt make due with he half spear in 4.
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>>150864860
She can just ride Fine.
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>>150845909
Japan has a tradition of seeing girl crushes as meaningless and they're counting exclusively on an audience that openly see anime characters as their properties so it's not so open.
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>>150864988
>Japan has a tradition of passing off serious lesbian relationships as just girl crushes
There, ftfy.
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>>150864925
CAN she levitate living matter though? We've never seen her do it.
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Who the fuck cares if those two hawt broades will later fuck guys or not or if it's just a phase in their adolescent 15 year old life?

What matters is that they implicitly fucked each another, which stimulates our imagination and makes our peepee grow larger, because seeing two hawt gurlz doing seks is better than just seeing one hawt gurl doing masturbation.
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>>150865142
Doing that with another girl is not ok, Fate-chan!
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>>150865142
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>>150865142
Good endings 101 says that "they lived together happily ever after" is the way to go. I mean, a lot of relationships do not last forever IRL, but you do not even want to think about that when some romance happens in any fictional work.
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>>150865142
Stop posting, dumb male.
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>>150864656
I'm pretty sure Berkman is going to try to do some doublecrossing shit and will wind up with a bullet between his eyes courtesy of Bianca or Sieg.

Hell, it'd be pretty badass if Finé herself removed some krauts before this is over. She was denied that pleasure up until now.
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Anyone else really like the gentle breath sounds for the magic during the brick scene?
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>>150866770
It's been used throughout the show, but yes I do.
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>>150866731
>Finé pulls a gun on the kaiser.
>"B-But these are peace talks!"
>"Have a piece of this!"
>*blam*
She's from fantasy Tirol, so she should know about bad puns before killing people.
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>>150866731

I kind of like Berkman, to be honest. In a world full of people dying for their country, he knows that what's important in the end is saving your own skin.
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what are the chances otto dies and elliot takes over germania's leadership?
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>>150867018
He does seem to be a character whose ideals are congruent with a lot of Anons.
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>>150856338
>Izetta defeats Sophie
>world peace is achieved
>she used too much power and is hence eternally wheelchairbound
>she doesn’t age any more either
>physically unable to fight, Izetta can finally be happy
>Fine has to take care of her in their retirement home
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>>150867538
Hate to ask, but what is this?
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>>150867224
Zero? I bet they both end up dead
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> Motherfucking V2s

This anime is doing so many things right, I love it.
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>>150867015
>She's from fantasy Tirol
Tirol Fin(al)e.
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>>150867676
Gamma. Fun as hell.
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>>150843176
That "Evil is sexy" attire is perfect.
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>>150867846
Actually, I find it possible that after Sophie and Izetta take each other out, the war in Europe goes on for a few more years, which ends with Otto either committing suicide after the Volgans invade and Elliot becoming their puppet monarch/president, or first chancellor of the new West-Germanian Republic which lies under Allied control.
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>>150867846
he just seems like a much more reasonable and rational guy.

he could sign the peace agreements when otto dies/goes insane
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>>150843176
>>150867929
Designed by Hugo Boss.
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>>150866731
I thinks so too, but I have a hard time trying to guess what his goal might be here
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>>150867945
That's possible, but will Otto really invade Volga if the peace talks fail now? He's not completely sane but he at least seems to be willing to do one thing at a time
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>>150867945
nvm I've read your post wrong >_>
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>>150843176
Still salty over the lack of coat.
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>>150868202
He was always going to invade the Volgans, just like he is sure that the Volgans will one day invade the rest of Europe.
Some of the recent advances to the Germanian warmachine thanks to Sophie's exenium might make him believe that he still could have the technological edge to defeat them, even if he wouldn't have enough to power up a nuke anymore.
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>Volgans
>Volgans
>Volgans
When will you people finally accept that they will do nothing?
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>>150868385
She's still a solid 8/10 without it.
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>>150863416
Beautiful
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>>150868421
They're just a background element to show that yes, the Germanians will do something stupid like a multi-front war against both the Allies and the Volgans and ultimately lose, just like Nazi Germany lost in real life.
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>>150868561
>just like Nazi Germany lost in real life.
Just like how Tyrol prevented an atomic bomb attack in real life.
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>>150868639
Maybe they did, you just never knew!
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>>150867538
Its a superhero manga called Gamma. Its really good, but it has twincest bait (The main sisters ARE lesbians, but they dont end up togther, like they implied)
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>>150868639
More like Tyrol made atomic holocaust possible by killing one chick who will harvest earth for magical uranium centuries later because she's now more nazi than the nazis.
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>>150868402
>He was always going to invade the Volgans
That's obvious since his goal is world domination. But I don't think he's so stupid he'll declare war on them before dealing with the allies. I deliberately don't want to bring any real world analogies here, ofc the writers may still use them, but I'd rather see berserk Sophie or Izetta along with allies destroy Germans
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>>150868828
>I deliberately don't want to bring any real world analogies here
That ship sailed before the story even started, when not-Germany invaded not-Poland.
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>>150868733
Words can’t describe how much I want an anime of it. And Izetta really should end like it, that’d be amazing.
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>>150853753
>Well, this show had hope
>Hiroyuki Yoshino
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>>150868905
You have a point, yes, but there are enough differences, and the fact it's started the same way doesn't necessarily mean it will end the same way too
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>>150868954
It ended too soon to get an anime.
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>>150868954
The ending was pretty forced and aprupt, but yeah, its very good.

Author has HORRIBLE tastes though, LOL, apparently he cried in Spiderman 3. SPIDERMAN 3!!!
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>>150869319
Spiderman 3 is a modern masterpiece.
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>>150844654
Based, thank you anon
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>>150869319
Who wouldn't break down in tears if forced to watch Spider-Man 3?
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>>150868954
sauce?
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>>150849340
>yfw she's asks you where's the strap on
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>>150850524
can you make a desktop background 1920x1080 pls
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Would you trust this woman to be around your teenage daughter?
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>>150867909
Thank you.
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>>150870093
Actually, yes, I would.
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>>150870093
They never really explained her, now that I think about it.

I'm surprised that I'm not more upset about this.
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Why not nuke Not!Germany instead of deactivating it?
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>>150870260
She's probably the reason half of the girls in Eylstadt lock their doors at night.
The other half is okay with it.
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>>150870315
She's probably the key so Atlanta won't attack next ep.
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>>150870315
She's either one of the past witches that's related to Izetta or a spy from Atlanta
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>>150870357
She's just a tutor, not an ambassador
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>>150870315
What explanation do you want? She's working as a publicist/image something for Eystaldt. Jesus why does everyone and their mothers want wikipages from their chinese cartoons?
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>>150870315
The only reason she was in the show was to grab titties and use her influence with the press one time.

I don't know why she needed to be a separate character from Sieg.
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>>150870315
What's to explain? She's a sexy fanservice/comic relief character. If you mean her role in the story, there's nothing beyond the surface: she actually is just a publicist they hired to help arrange their propaganda efforts.
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>>150870409
because we can't have sieg grabbing titties
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>>150870401
I bet you think Izetta and Fine are good characters too
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>>150870478
They could have made Sieg a girl. Sieglinde.
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>>150870394
>She's just a tutor
I would let her teach me how to grope women like a girl.
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>>150870260
Even if your daughter asks if she can go to a sleepover?
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>>150870507
Sophia, fuck off. The writing thus far hasn't been anything to write home about, but it was way more serviceable than a 12 epiosde show with the plot of "Flying lesbian fights the Third Reich" has any right to be.
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>>150870412
>She's a sexy fanservice/comic relief character
I'm sure she will show up in the last episode somehowto love Sophie and Izetta tenderly as family.
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>>150870093
I wish she were around when I was a teenager.
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>>150865142
You're fucking right.
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>>150870401
I don't think you paid very good attention. She was in charge of publicizing Izetta, yes, but she also had clear ties to the darker goings on of the Eylstadtian government. To the point that she in fact knew the players by name. This is not something a normal publicist should know.
And all of this while she was apparently hired to also be Fine's tutor, which was at the very least a slight cover.

Was there even a point in her being an Atlantan?
Those are the sorts of things I more or less wanted to know.

>>150870507
I'm clearly not him, but I like them, so there.
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>>150870507
I like them enough. We're at episode 11 now and what bothers me is the fact that you're still whining about 'characters' when we've established that this is very poorly written. I'm getting tired of your shit just like some of us are. If you want depth and good characters I'm sure there are plenty of other titles that would be better for you.
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>>150870401
>not wanting to hear the story of how a straight girl back home broke her heart, causing her to seek a job in a far off continent where girls can love girls
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>>150870861
I paid enough attention but I won't bother to be an autist for this show. Mostly because what we've seen so far is a cutout story. Evil guys are evil. Good guys are good. This is not some great espionage show. There aren't big twists. No one is working as a double agent and if they are, they are basically 'faceless' characters like that platoon leader or that surprise old guy from Lotte's sister's pub. My point really is, at this point, Elvira is probably one of the good guys and expecting her to be some spy is kinda of laughable.
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>>150870931
Good is subjective.
I'm sure there are some people in this thread if not at least on this board who would only consider a character to be "good" if they were older than 20. Or anti-heroes. Or male. Or some other arbitrary reason.
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>>150870861
Official site only says something like she's responsible for public relations and intelligence of Eylstadt. I too have been wondering if there's a point of her being an Atlantan. After ep8 I thought she either is truly devoted to Eylstadt and would inform Sieg that Atlanta wants to attack Eylstadt after they deal with Germania, or that she's an Atlantan spy
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>>150870507
I’m not sure what people even want from those characters. It’s completely fine to define Fine through her fine skills as a leader. It would have been nice if Izetta had a character trait that wasn’t related to Fine (drop the dumb spy sublot for Izetta adventures without Fine’s dog leash), but it’s not a deal breaker as the story is primarily about those two being together, not apart.
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>>150871085
And?
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>>150870507
>How to trigger Izetta threads with one line
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>>150871223
You can't even greentext properly, newfag.
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>>150868733
>>150868954
This looks grea-
>20 chapters
>likely only ended due to reader votes
Of course.
And they still argue that manga is the most creative and superior medium.
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>>150871052
>Evil guys are evil.
Bassler's not. Rickert, not so much either. Sophie also still has room for saving. I also thought the show did a pretty good job of also showing the majority of Germanian grunts as just people on the other side.
>Good guys are good.
Won't argue with that, but I think the show introducing Kuntz at all at least showed that the good guys have some patches of being morally grey.

But more importantly, I think you're trying to project your own failings onto the show. The show is no brain scratcher, certainly, but it's still your fault if you let things fly over your head.

>My point really is, at this point, Elvira is probably one of the good guys and expecting her to be some spy is kinda of laughable.
I don't think I ever implied that she was a spy.
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Tfw when you actually enjoy dumb spy subplot more than whatever Izetta moments on screen...
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>>150871210
And Bob's your uncle.
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>>150871293
Totally agree
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>>150871293
I kind of knew you would nitpick on the elvira-spy thing but was too lazy to change it to a rather umbrella term.

When I say evil guys are evil, I meant enemies. All of those you mentioned are/were enemies. I will give you Sophie because clearly there's one more episode more.

>But more importantly, I think you're trying to project your own failings onto the show. The show is no brain scratcher, certainly, but it's still your fault if you let things fly over your head.

I'm kind of disappointed that you choose to attack me personally but well you may have the last reply if you want.
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>>150871325
What’s it like having shit taste?
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>>150871170
>it’s not a deal breaker
It was for me. I'm just watching of the action now. I don't give a damn about the characters.
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>>150870528
>Sieg
>a girl
>with that birthmark
>still wearing the suit and tie
I'm overheating.
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>>150871400
>watching izetta
>having taste at all
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>>150871436
Why are you in this thread?
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>>150871455
He's probably for a chance to make a rape dungeon joke.
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>>150871436
Nothing wrong with enjoying something flawed.
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>>150868639
Who's to say they didn't?

If Germany was putting their money into magical nukes and it was suddenly shut down, they would fall behind the atomic race!
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>>150871455
As long as I find something entertaining about it, I can watch crap just fine.
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>>150871170
They want character depths that one could write an essay about and circlejerk for eternity in threads.
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>>150871557
>this anime is shit
>I don't really like it, I just watch it ironically
>what you actually like this shit?
>what a fag
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>>150871618
just stop replying
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>>150871606
I don't think you know what character depth means.
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>>150871170
I just want to exchange few fanservice scenes with scenes where Izetta is using her powers to help common folks. That would add so much to her.
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>>150871428
Pretty much Yayoi, isn't it? Actually, Elvira could cosplay convincly as Shion, as well...
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>>150871678
There you go again, telling people what they don't know and what they don't.
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>>150871713
What fanservice haters don’t realize is that those scenes take up very little screen time. You’d get a couple minutes at most removing everything, that’s not nearly enough.

The spy subplot has to go and be replaced with something where Izetta has to make a decision on her own, that’s how you fix Izetta.
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>>150871744
>last thing Jonas saw was this
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>>150871785
It's just the truth.
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>>150871787
Izetta makes enough decisions on her own and it was discussed over million times already. Idk why you think she can't do that
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>>150871877
The truth is subjective.
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>>150872051
None that really shed any light on her character. And it’s not about being able to make decisions, it’s about building her character with them to something more than “Fine’s dog”.
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>>150872051
Not the same anon, but all the decisions Izetta made "on her own" actually revolve around Fine somehow. I think anon was talking about decisions that wouldn't involve Fine at all.
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>>150872118
In the end, it's just because she's in love with Fine.
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>>150872169
Sure she loves her, but her obsession goes beyond that. It has to do with having no friends before she got to know Fine, the fact that Fine saved her, and her self-esteem issues.
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>>150872169
No she isn't there just friends.
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>>150872217
I don't see anything wrong with that. Perfect gf to be honest.
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>>150872217
Nah, she's got Bianca and Sieg. They clearly care about her alot too.
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>>150872304
For a basement dweller, maybe.
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>>150872226
Stop.
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>>150872393
>Nah, she's got Bianca and Sieg. They clearly care about her alot too.
Izetta's only now realizing they care about her. It's too little too late.
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>>150872217
Even if Izetta develops better self-esteem, Fine will still remain the most important person in her life, well, at least for some long time period. She may eventually change, but it takes years.
Also, as it's already being pointed now she has enough people who care about her, and for whom she cares in return
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>>150872397
I have no interest in making Izetta my waifu, but I do think she'd make an awesome friend. My reasons for liking her aren't due to her being submissive or doting, or anything like that, but due to the fact that she's shown she's just an all around good person.
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>>150872397
Wait, you're not a basement dweller?
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>>150872437
>It's too little too late.
Why's that?
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>>150872393
>Sieg
>capable of human friendship
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>>150872484
Fine being her most important isn't a problem. Also, as I said in >>150872437, Izetta's just realizing there are other people to care about her, but now it's too late. This should have happened around episode 7 or 8. Then it would have been the first step in her development.
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>>150871850
Damn it, Yayoi is way to cool for school.
The ideal lesbian in my book.
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>>150872393
>she's got Bianca

All you can say for sure. We don't really know what Sieg really thinks of her, other than that she's an essential tool to protecting the country. What he thinks of her in terms of value as a person is anyone's guess.
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>>150872549
>Why's that?
Because it's just a first step in her potential development. If it happened early, it could have led to some actual growth for her.
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>>150872600
>>150872566
Didn't you see his face when he was offering her the stone? He visibly shows emotions, appears distraught, withdraws his hand for a moment, before very reluctantly giving it to her.
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>>150872574
Finé and Izetta are static characters. They will not, and were never intended to, develop. What they do lack is depth (which is not development) the writers utterly failed at showing us that.
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>>150872574
Actually she started to realize it somewhere around ep6
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>>150872574
But she already said previously that she wants to protect all the people that have shown her kindness.
You're just parroting Sophia now.
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Is it so wrong to protect an entire kingdom for your waifu?
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>>150872594
She's too cool for this schoolgirl, that's certain.
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>>150872566
Of course he is. Also he constantly suffers doing his job and kinda enjoys that
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>>150872739
She told Bianca the only thing she wants to do in life is to fight for Fine, and Fine alone.
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>>150872667
Yeah, he showed the same just before executing Jonas. He still killed him like he was putting a dog down.
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>>150872735
I've noticed a lot of people who dislike the characters seemed to have also never entirely manage to "get" the characters.
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>>150872694
>They will not, and were never intended to, develop.
Sure, but I think it was a stupid decision.
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>>150871744
Fuck.
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>>150872694
Not really, Izetta has been getting a little more confident little by little.
Do you really think she would have slapped the emo out of Finé and tell her off at any point before all the stuff they went trough together.
Their relationship matured and Izetta with it.
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Greetings ningen
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>>150872820
>She told Bianca the only thing she wants to do in life is to fight for Fine, and Fine alone.


Your yuri goggles are too tight.
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>>150872838
That anon doesn't dislike them he's just frustrated the show didn't go the way he wanted. But I do agree with you.
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>>150872820
Which probably preceded the scene where she told Finé that she loved Eylstadt too. You know, development.
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>>150872910
wow that's gorgeous thanks
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>>150871850
Sieg is like if Yayoi had a son with the other best Psy-Cop.
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>>150872989
Yeah, Izetta keeps repeating she fight for Eylstadt since her dialogue with pilots in ep7, but what does it matter
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>>150872989
It all happened in the same episode. Was it off-screen development? If that's the case, I'd say it's a piece of pretty shitty writing.
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Why is it so hard to understand that you can fight for people AND your princess? Isn't that a good thing?
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>>150872773
>>150872887
The absence of intimacy in her life is slowly killing her.
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>>150844654
I could kiss you.
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>>150872820
>she wants to do in life is to fight for Fine, and Fine alone.
>and Fine alone.
This is blatantly false.
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>>150873109
She brought on herself by being a selfish, cowardly bitch.
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>>150873214
Not him but she did say it.
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>>150873214
>This is blatantly false.
It's true actually.
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>>150873257
>>150873265

Okay, fuck it, give me the episode. Is it the one with the torpedoes or before that?
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>>150873317
It's from the most recent one.

But I agree the "Fine alone" part is probably not entirely accurate.
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>>150873257
She didn't say "for Fine alone", she said "for Fine till the end", and combined with Izetta's statements on that she cares for Eylstadt it just means that she fight's for everyone but Fine is her number one. Nothing wrong with that.
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>>150873214
>>150873317
No, this episode.

Anyway, my Japanese is kind of shit, but I think this is what Izetta was saying.

>Hime-sama no tame ni tatakau koto dake ga, sore dake ga, watashi ga ishitai. Tatta hitotsu no koto dakara.

Which translate to something like

>Fighting for Fine's sake, just that, is all I want to do. Just this one thing.

It's a pretty extreme thing to say, and it definitely implies Fine is all Izetta fights for. What she says later, after slapping Fine, seems to contradict this though.
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>>150873381
>>150873317
>>
I wasn't the original poster but
>Why is it so hard to understand that you can fight for people AND your princess?
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>>150873469
Because Izetta said she only fights for Fine.
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>>150873465
So, how exactly does this contradict what I said?
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>>150873381
This.
Oh big shocker, the thing that motivated her from the beginning to fight, is still the key motivator. But also other things have reinforced her resolve.

End of discussion.
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>>150873511
I'm not even arguing with you, anon. I just posted the screenshot for that person asking about it. Why are you so butthurt?
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>>150873504
>_____> What now should I start adding screenshots of all the moments where Izetta says she cares for Eylstadt? Wait I won't even bother, Think what you will.
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>>150873545
Sorry, just got a bit heated up
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>>150873645
Pull yourself together, man!
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>>150873504
That's wrong though.
It's for "Fine till the end", not "only for Fine".

Also another point I think that needs to be made here is that the monarch of a country in synonymous with the country itself in those day and especially for those backwards ass japs.
So it's very possible that "fighting for the archduchess" = "fighting for Eylstadt" in this context.

We should also consider that Finé is utterly selfless and a servant of her people, which is part of the reason Izetta seems to love her to begin with (exemplified by her strange wish for world peace and shit). Therefore Izetta might be beyond the point of differentiating between fighting for Finé's happiness and Eylstadt, because Eylstadt is Finé's happiness.
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>>150873775
>It's for "Fine till the end", not "only for Fine".
No. See >>150873404
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>>150869860
Not him, but I threw this together.
Dunno if I should have canted the image. Makes the girls a little more leveled out, but it's not exact to the original.
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>>150873835

Why are they/is this so perfect? I've personally loved the shit out of a whole new world when I was a kid and thought that it was the coolest date ever.
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>>150873828
>Anyway, my Japanese is kind of shit
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>>150873910
Not shit enough to confuse that part. I can here the "dake ga" pretty clearly.
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>>150873835
>>150864758

so theoretically, izetta can actually make a carpet fly and as transport?
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>>150873835
This is perfect, thanks anon
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>anime premise is clearly something like "Love conquers all!"
>autists proceed to bitch about this because they'd rather it'd be about something they want instead

I'm not getting involved in this.
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>>150873955
Of course she could, though I'd theorize that a flimsy object like that would require more concentration/upkeep to function as an aerial transport.
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>>150873942
*hear
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>>150873942
The "only" there refers to fighting, not necessarily to Fine.
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>>150873891
>tfw saw aladdin when it came out in cinemas and also saw aladdin on ice
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new

>>150874131
>>150874131
>>150874131
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>>150874085
No, it refers to "fighting for Fine's sake" (Fine no tame ni tatakau koto).
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>>150873109
I was so disappointed in Freckles. I'd like for her to get a turnaround in a hypothetical third season, but I suspect she'd more likely end up getting a trip to Domino's.
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>>150850524
>>150873835
Pretty cool, but should probably try to do something about those feet, and the misaligned sparkles.
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>>150874494
She's fated to become an Enforcer. That maladjusted personality won't be able to maintain "healthy" hue for very long. Actually it's surprising she's still considered clean.
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>>150853916
Good movies can show a lot of character development in 90 minutes. 12 episodes is ~240 minutes after you take out OP and ED.
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>>150874218
Yes, that's what I meant.
"only fighting for Fine". Not "fighting only for Fine".
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>>150875091
The line still means that fighting for Fine is all she wants to do. Nothing else.
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