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Jesus the new episode of jojo really pissed me off, all that

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Jesus the new episode of jojo really pissed me off, all that build up to present a great fucking villain that was really smart and had a ridiculously strong stand and the resolve it by have hayato use a fucking phone.
>Great job catching Kira Hayato
>Thanks, but I couldn't have done it without T-Mobile!
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>>150768037
Why on earth would you watch Jojo for the writing? It's the weak point of the series
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>smart
The only smart villain is Pucci.
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>>150768037
Glad I'm not the only one who was pissed off about it. What was even the point of bite the dust? It was introduced and destroyed in 2 episodes
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>>150768240

Thats like saying "Whats the point of part 4? It was introduced and never mentionted again".

Also nice memes OP, i gave you an upvote :^)
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>>150768286
I'm not pissed because it doesn't get brought up again, I'm pissed because it was a complete anti-climax and an utter waste. Instead of the characters outmaneuvering Kira they literally just fucking put a phone on speaker and had him fucking shout his name in the middle of the fucking street.
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>>150768363
that's not what happened at all
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>>150768363
lol bite za dusto is invincible dude, hayato was literally the only one who could do anything and he did, kids badass
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You don't understand , He use the phone to wake up josuke
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>>150768037
When Josuke started to question Kira, he should have just went: "My name is not Kira, ask the little boy", which would have triggered BTD
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>>150768037

That's what anime only faggots get for expecting anything.
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How did Hayato know josuke's house phone number?
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>>150768803
It was supposed to be some kind of irony that, some invincible time relapse ability was out-maneuvered by a 11 year old boy using a phone.
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>>150769250
that's the real question here. Maybe there were more time relapses than shown....
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>>150769250
Didn't it show him looking it up in the phone book?
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>>150768037
Are you really that much of a burger you can't even name a Japanese teleoperator?
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>>150768037
It has the biggest weak point out of all the villains, Hayato could have continued to repeat the same day over and over until he figured something out.
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>>150768363
What did you expect? How would you solve this problem instead?
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>>150768037
>being this retarded
Hayato is a tech genius. Kira got lucky he got beaten by a phone call to Josuke's house. Did you completely ignore all the surveillance camera he has in the house? That's pretty damn amazing for a kid living in the 90s.
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>>150769516
He couldn't have, Kira himself said that he was going to take Bite the Dust off of Hayato to make sure he couldn't kill him. He knew he killed a lot of people already so he was going to stop the looping if Josuke had not shown up.
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>Josuke comments about oversleeping in one loop
>Hayato calls him to wake him up earlier
>Josuke arrives on time
Literally what are you bitching about.
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>>150771011
I didn't notice that, nice.
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the only thing stupid about it was how the only thing separating the group from the heroes fighting kira was a fucking street corner and hayato despite seeing them all fine, did NOTHING to call them over after he knew they were safe and nobody heard all the yelling and noise of the battle. Even if kira's explosions are 100 percent silent, there's still shit with josuke destroying pavement and such.
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>>150768363
Hatato called Hosume's House to wake him up cause in the original events of that day Josuke gets there late, so hayato wakes him up early (when he answered the phone that morning) so he could be there...
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>>150768037
>>150768363
I hope you'll enjoy Kira losing not because the protags are smarter or stronger but because he gets run over by a random truck.
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>>150771881
How people get upset about the truck is beyond me.

Kira was a monster born from the town, in the end the heroes do beat him down but the final kill is from the town itself.


The town itself got its justice on Kira.
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>>150771881
Kira was fucked the moment he had to direct confront Jotaro. The truck was just another layer to the irony of his defeat.
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>>150772028
This. I always liked the truck for that reason.
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How did Diamond even heal Hayato when he became dust? He can't heal the dead right?
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>>150770293
Kira only said it because of how confident Hayato was. If Hayato acted normally he would still think it's the first loop.
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>>150772288
In the manga Hayato doesn't even break apart.

The instant he explodes Josuke heals him.

Not sure why they made it linger so long in the anime.


Also death in JoJo isnt instant, your soul has to leave its body first.
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>>150768363
>they literally just fucking put a phone on speaker
Dumbass.
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>>150769250
Phone book you faggot
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>>150772028
>How people get upset about the truck is beyond me.
Because a great villian like him didn't deserve such anti-climatic finale

When you think about it, Kira has the most powerful Stand in terms of damage, not only in part 4, but in the entire JoJo-verse
He could cause a genocide by just having Hayato reveal his name on the internet. Hell, he could even defeat Ultimate Kars using nothing but KQ's first bomb

But come on, he just wanted a quiet life
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>>150772576
I haven't watched the episode yet, but I remember that Hayato was in the process of exploding. As you can see, at the very least his face is still together.
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>>150768037
To me, that's one of the Top 3 hypest moments in JoJo. Alongside the SBR finale twist and Joseph instinctively blocking the strongest Hamon attack with the stone.

The anime butchered it a little, but it's okay.
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>>150772799
man, I reread the final fight in anticipation of its adaptation in the anime but beyond the 15-second hand to hand sequence it let me down
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>>150772770
He dies to the chaotic environment that he created. Those people were trying to just live quiet lives, too. Araki even later gives him a second chance and he blows it. He's a cunt.
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>>150772770
It's a very fitting death, and it isnt anti-climactic.

He torments a kid in a loop, killing the entire cast, has an intense battle with Josuke, Okuyasu seemingly comes back from the dead for the save, the entire cast has to stop him from activating Bites the Dust in the end, and they still fail. Then the town gets its justice.


I love Kira, he is my favorite character with my favorite stand, and I still think the way he went out was fitting for his character. Plus he gets a quiet ghost life anyway Anon.
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>>150773050
the town doesnt get justice for anything, he randomly gets hit by the car

villains dying to randomness/small-time things can be done well but this really wasnt one of those times
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>>150773195
>the town doesn't get justice
>he literally dies
okay
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>>150773195
It's symbolism my man.
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>>150773195

It's not any car he gets hit by anon, it's a community service vehicle.

The big theme of part 4 is the community and him getting run over is symbolic of Morioh rejecting his shit.
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>>150773195
but the ghost alley taking was the death for me.
that was the climatic defeat for him
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>>150773331
it would be one thing if kira pulled a Training Day and got community backlash/died from some stuff he pulled when he was big-headed (which is one of his character traits) but I really dont believe the death was done effectively
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>>150773425
this i do agree with

remi getting to see him get fucked by ghost hands was great
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>>150768192
If Pucci is so smart why did he die like a bitch?
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>>150773425
This. Dying to the ambulance is terrible which is why it's considered a meme. But it doesn't matter since his real comeuppance is satisfying.
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I have question

So Josuke couldn't revive his grandpa because Crazy Diamond can't fix shit if it's already dead

But did it work on Hayato because he'd only been exploded for like 2 seconds?

>>150773195
>randomly gets hit by a car

idk I figured he'd already have been dead by the time Star Platinum beat the shit out of him, plus as the other anon said, ghost alley
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>>150772770
>a great villian
lmao kys if you think a bateman/joker ripoff is a great "villain". I love jojo but story telling and original characters was something Araki wasn't capable of.
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>>150774274
>But did it work on Hayato because he'd only been exploded for like 2 seconds?
Because he can fix things by restoring back to how they were before. Hayato wasn't exploded, he exploded, and Josuke resuscitated him before he completely vanished. Although that's not conveyed in the anime all too well.

What Crazy Diamond can do isn't exactly consistent anyway. Like why did it allow Josuke to fly backwards instead of just ripping the debris out of his wound from a distance? Or why it could repair the pipes even though they weren't damaged and Harvest merely unscrewed the bolts.
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>>150774704
Well in the manga he immediately heals hayato, yeah in the anime it takes awhile which I guess could confuse most people. It's not that big a deal I always thought it was kinda weird.

Also the whole "You can't bring people back from the dead" even though Joseph was dead for like hours during the Dio fight but comes back. Death is always covered a little odd I guess.

And yeah Crazy Diamond is kinda weird like that, I always wondered why when he's fighting Kira the shard of glass miraculously flies back into him, like maybe it would have gone another way back?
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>>150774274
>he'd only been exploded for like 2 seconds
more like .2 seconds but yeah, he fixed it just in the nick of time before Hayato's soul left.
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>>150774704
Crazy Diamond isnt really the ability to "fix" things anyway, he can manipulate matter and revert things to certain states.

Thats why he can turn Enigma into a book and Angelo into a rock.


It's just easier for him to describe it as "fixing" things
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>>150775660
>Thats why he can turn Enigma into a book and Angelo into a rock
Isn't that because he was angry while "fixing" them and so they fused with the surrounding objects?
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>>150775794
No, he can purposely "fix" something wrong like how he can transform the sidewalk he smashed into a defensive wall. He breaks and reassembles things.
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Why did they have a hard time seeing Kira's air bombs? Wouldn't the rain give away their position?
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>>150772770
>Because a great villian

Lets go over the plot holes this villian has. It has been stated time and time again that stands only have one ability.
While Kira has
Bites the dust
Sheer heart attack NO WEAKNESS
The ability to make shit into bombs
and finally the cat plant that shouldn't exist in the first place that has been transplanted into his abdomen.

Secondly. "He just wants to live a peaceful life" is garbage as he is killing everyone.

And finally when he meets his demise he wants killer queen to blow up his most desired possessions.


Even fucking Kars is a better villain that Kira.
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>>150776453
>stands only have one ability.
LOL
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>>150776453
>Secondly. "He just wants to live a peaceful life" is garbage as he is killing everyone.
He wants a peaceful life while every once in a while indulging in his fetishes. He can't indulge in his fetish if there's a group of people hunting him down.
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>>150776105
Light refracts the rain or something
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>pissed off

lol fag its just a comic book
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>>150776653
lmao
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>>150776105
The rain is the only way they were seeing them.
And J.Geil has Hanged Man hovering over him in the rain puddle, blocking the rain, you stupid fuck
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>>150776857
>And J.Geil has Hanged Man hovering over him in the rain puddle, blocking the rain, you stupid fuck
Prove it, nigger.
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>>150771011
This. Jojo's plot is just too bizzare for you all.
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>>150777003
But thats the joke
>what does Hanged Man do
>why did the rain not hit J.Geil
>how was Polnareff's sister cut up in an instant
He's in the puddles reflection. But if you need to be a retard and say shit like
>Araki probably didn't even know Hanged Man's power yet!
Then it's Hanged Man as a full body stand hovering above J.Geil, and the witness account came from a non-stand user.
You're dumb af bruv brony faggot
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What makes part 5 better than 3?
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>>150777148
It happens two parts later and Jojo is an constantly climbing storyline
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>>150777142
>You're dumb af bruv brony faggot
Congrats. Now you look stupid.
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>>150777193
>coming from someone who calls people a nigger
>only when anon though

not an argument :^)
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>>150777148
>better crew
>better plot progression
>better fights
>better villain
>better minor antagonists
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>>150777148
Dio.
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>>150768037
>all that build up to present a great fucking villain that was really smart

Did you learn nothing from the Pillar Men?
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>>150777345
KYS
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>>150776453
>The ability to make shit into bombs
Killer Queen's one ability
>Sheer heart attack
Like Epitath, it's a sub-stand that reflects a specific and suppressed personality trait, in this case, Kira's uncontrollable desire to kill
>Bites the dust
new ability granted by the arrow
>the cat plant
no explanation needed
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>>150777345
People don't read Jojo as a continuous series, sometimes even out of order, which is how so much confusion happens and half the idiot anons you see don't get it
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>>150777374
Gotta love it when they prove that they're underage with autistic memes when they're proven wrong.
Hyper satisfying when they eventually go back to whatever board they're crossing from to bitch and whine and be meta :^)
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>>150771881
Please don't let this be true
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>>150777230
It's 4chan. I can call you a nigger if I want. Are you a nigger?
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>>150777565
Is this the part where you have a mental breakdown and spam nigger because I proved you wrong, idiot?
please continue, I live for this part ;^)
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>>150777558
Everyone dies at the end of part 6 and the universe gets reset anyways
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>>150768037
>a great fucking villain that was really smart
>Kira
>really smart
You obviously weren't paying attention to the show then
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Why are there so many anime onlys in this thread?
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>>150777259
The villain in part 5 is incredibly anticlimatic, and although I personally very much like the whole crew anth the plot progression I can in no way see how part 3 would ever be inferior to part 5, since in my opinion part 3 has the best crew in all of JoJo.
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>>150777717
>incredibly anticlimatic

I want you to explain how
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>>150777717
>The villain in part 5 is incredibly anticlimatic
>in my opinion part 3 has the best crew in all of JoJo
Disgusting.
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>>150777670
Are you a nigger though? I'm genuinely curious. You seemed to take offence when I used the word, so please answer my question.

As for proving me wrong, you misread my post completely. I asked about Kira's air bombs, if they'd be visible in the rain (since Hayato says that he can see the air warping, not the raindrops) and posted that picture of J Geil to give a rough approximation of what that might look like. So, when I said you made yourself look stupid, I wasn't kidding. Since you were trying to prove me wrong about an argument I never made in the first place.

I'll admit, I was initially pissed off when I read your post, and asking you to prove it, nigger was a reflexive response hoping that it'd shut you up and end the conversation right there, but I was wrong.

Anyway, this conversation is pointless. So just post a meme and a smug reaction image in response so we can both get on with our lives.
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>>150777402
>Epitaph
King Crimsons sub-ability makes sense due to Doppio's split personality. Kira does not have a split personality. Kira is such a poorly written villain his death was much deserved.

>new ability granted by the arrow
He got his stand from the arrow in the first place. A second stabbing led to gold requiem
>no explanation needed
I know right?
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>>150777797
Tail between your fucking legs m8 :^D
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>>150777864
Thanks senpai. See you later ;^)
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anti-climatic is my favorite buzzword
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diavolofags will defend this
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>>150777822
You get Requiem when the arrow stabs your Stand not you.
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>>150777761
Not him but there isnt really a fight

It's just trying to grab the arrow and them bam they win.

I know they pound that into your head over the course of the part but it doesnt make it any less lame.
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>>150778104
>Part does something different than you were expecting
>"lame where is my punchies"

great
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Jonathan is my favorite JoJo.
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>>150778104
>I hate fun
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Spinoff when?
Fuck part V
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>>150778150
Part 4, 6, and 7 arent punchy punch the finale. That would be part 3 and 1.

I was just hoping for something more than "I got the arrow now I instantly beat Diavolo."

I still enjoy Part 5, I just think the final fight is the weakest in the series because it isnt much of a fight.
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I like that despite how powerful and clever Kira is he can still screw up due to his ego or impatience, like many villains throughout Jojo. Antagonists with flaws like that are more interesting to me than the usual Captain Keikaku types in manga who effortlessly stomp all the heroes without a scratch until near the end of the story.
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>only more 2 episodes
>it will take at least more 6 cours of Jojo until we get to a good part again
VI is shit anyway and V is overrated by the ones that do not think that it is average at best
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>>150768159
And the weak point of the anime is the animation, what the fuck is there left to join?
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>>150772946
Even than sequence looks clunky as fuck, DP simply doesn't have talented animators to really step up this adaptation, those punches felt weak as fuck, the color palette looks lazy just like the speed lines.
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>>150778229
When you think of the struggle for the Arrow as the actual fight it's a bit better. GER beating King Crimson was just the victory lap.
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>>150768363
>they literally just fucking put a phone on speaker
You are so stupid it defied belief.
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>>150772770
>But come on, he just wanted a quiet life
So is it not fitting that he got a quiet death?
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>can only rebuild people but not revive them
>this looks alive to the fucking writers
why do i keep watching anime jesus
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Part 3's adaptation is absolutely horrendous

>making 2nd worst part even shittier
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>>150778481
I think you got the wrong website reddit's two blocks down
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>>150778078
It's comfy.
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Part 2 was great. Part 3 has turned to shit and part 4 continues the trend. Granted 7>6>5>2>3>4.
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>>150778678
lol
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>>150778678
5>4>2
FTFY
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>>150778569
nice argument faggot. did i hurt your anime pride?
admit it jojo turned to shit just like dbs
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>>150778849
lmao'ing at your life dude
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>>150778849
The way of adaptions are to turn to shit, sir.
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>>150778849
It keeps getting better, though.
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>>150778678
Part 5 has the worst ending out of all of them.
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>>150778569
how do you do that effect in photoshop?
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>>150778961
really nigga?
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>>150779414
>giorno becoming a don
Fuck no.
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How long is part 5
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>>150779547
not as long as my cock
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>>150779460
It was raining. The sunlight was weaker, therefore the air bubble was weaker
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>>150779555
trips confirmed anons dick is smol
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>>150779555
part 5 is not that short anon
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>>150779675
so if it went to the sun it would become superplant prime?
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>come under, anon
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>>150778264
Honestly what makes Kira my favorite villain isn't how he acts in victory, but how he handles defeat. Managing to elude the DiU crew after Sheer Heart Attack sealed the deal. Araki said that Kira exhibits tremendous mental strength, and it shows.
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>>150780020
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