Why was she best girl. Lets have a in depth discussion about this.

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>>150756611
The only competition was Sakura. Kishi figured everyone would love her because she was the main girl and had as much screen time as Naruto despite never doing anything with it. Because of this, he didn't feel like he had to write any actual romance, something he hates doing, and by the end Hinata was the only choice that made any sense because she was the only one was any romantic history with Naruto.

She won by default, because Kishi can't write and especially can't write romance. That doesn't change the fact she's objectively the best girl regardless though.

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>>150756611
Not even the best girl in the family.

Because her love was pure.

Titshit.

>>150756611
>Why was she best girl
She wasn't. She sucked just as much as Sakura.

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>>150756963
>Tits
>Hinata
What could you be talking about?

>>150756611
>Shit writing
>Did virtually nothing in the story
>Failed to protect Naruto
>Fugly design
>Weak fighter
>Gave birth to annoying kids
Hinata was shit, senpai.

>>150756611
Kishimoto only gave her the barebones development needed and then left her alone.
You can't ruin something you don't touch.

All the other characters that got metric fucktons of development always ended up being fucking retarded.

>>150756611
>>150756690
They were both huge disappointments and the series would be better without them.

The real best girl was Kushina.

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Posting real best Naruto girl.

Shit girl from a shit series.

because everyone else thought he was a monster, a useless dumbass, or just a pest. She was the only one that believed in him from the very beginning. Everyone else either slowly warmed up to him after he started proving himself over and over again or just jumped on the naruto bandwagon after hearing about how he saved everyone in the village/world.

>>150756611
>Cowtits
Instantly inferior.

>>150756611
literally the memegirl of her series

desperately tried to become a main character and failed miserably

>>150757022
>Posting an OC.
Lol, is this what /a/ has come to?

>>150757054
>desperately tried to become a main character and failed miserably
Did you even read Naruto?

>>150757057
The Rock Lee spinoff proves Tenten would make a better lead female than Hinata and Sakura.

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>>150757054
>desperately tried to become a main character
You're thinking of Sakura anon. Hinata polled ahead of her despite having 1/100th of the screen time. You can count the number of significant scenes Hinata was in on your hand, and watch all the episodes she's in during a single afternoon. Hinata didn't desperately do anything, she just won hard because she's so clearly best girl.

>>150756611
She doesn't had competition.
All the others girls were shit or even more irrelevant.

Literally a fairytale princess

The sort of girl men wrote odes about

Gentle, kind, pure, innocent, shy, humble, feminine, domesticated, but not a doormat either

>>150757276
>not a doormat
Is that why her son turned out shitty from having a dad that doesn't have time for his family?

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>>150756611

>>150757276
She's also rich.

>>150756990
/thread

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>>150757276
>best loli
>best girl
>best adult
>best mom
>best waifu

Hinata is perfect!

>>150756611
She's wasn't Tayuya was best girl.

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>>150756611
>shy
>kind
>mistreated
>regal
>timid
>hime cut
>large breasts
>cute voice
>stutters
>hopelessly in love
>selfless
>sees past superficiality
>more loyal towards naruto than literally any other character in the show, including jiraiya, kakashi, sakura, bee, and minato
>cool eyes
>protects his pride; allows him to buy her dinner, but doesn't force him to go to fancy restaurants

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Konan was much better

TIDDIES!

Which as Hinatafags go on for 100+ posts with their fingers in their ears and yelling that their Hyuga princess is flawless and that Sakura sucks ass. They do it every time.

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>>150757472
>with their fingers in their ears
What? What are we trying to deny? Literally nobody else in Naruto comes close.

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>>150757388
>there will never be a comfy SoL oriented Naruto series


At this point I'd be happy with mere shorts

>best backstory
Seriously. Kishi would probably ruin things but imagine how much more interesting things could have been if Kishi had focued on Hyuga politics rather than on whatever Sakura brought to the table.

>most interesting powers and fighting style
>kind, gentle, and hardworking, and one of the few people to believe in Naruto when almost everyone else hated him

>>150757451
Konan had no personality.

>>150756611
damn now i need to re-read Team 8

>>150757451
Konan was too underutilized. She could have been a lot better than she ended up.

>>150757472
Well, Sakura does suck. The Hinatafags just don't want to admit that Hinata sucks just as much.

>>150757508
>Literally nobody else in Naruto comes close.
She is on the same level as Sakura. Which is to say, both are just as shitty, and at the bottom.

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>>150757472
Not a Hinatafag myself

I despised Sakura since I was a kid

And watching how the stupid bitch and her fanbase got BTFO constantly brought me back to the show

Sakura somehow achieved 3D behavior in 2D

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>>150756611
She's not.
My wife Chino is so cute

>>150757508
>"Hinata isn't that great."
>Response: "LA-LA-LA-LA I'M NOT LISTENING! HINATA A BEST AND SAKURA A SHIT!"

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>>150757534
>if Kishi had focued on Hyuga politics rather than on whatever Sakura brought to the table.
More like if Kishi had focused on ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE UCHIHA. The Hyuuga were cool as fuck, but they never came up again canonically after the Neji fight. The only people who gave a shit were the anime staff. Everything about them could've been explored more, but they just didn't. Same with every other character, Kishi just got a massive hard-on for the the Uchiha so instead of the other clans and eye haxes getting upgrades the Sharingan just got upgraded seven different times.

>>150757618
Konan should have stayed alive and joined the war.

>>150756611
Because hajidere is best dere.

>>150757734
Making up words doesn't make her not shit.

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>>150757618
>false equivalency
Explain how Hinata is bad.

>>150757767
>not knowing your deres
Confirmed for newfag.

How would Kushina have felt about her?

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>>150757618
>>150757672
>She is on the same level as Sakura
>HINATA A BEST AND SAKURA A SHIT!
You don't even need good taste to realize Sakura is shit. Hinata was the most popular female even in Nipland despite Sakura being a main character and Hinata having next to no screentime. Also, Sakura just sucks generally. She was tsundere for Naruto and deredere for Sasuke since episode one and never for even a single moment developed beyond that except at the start of the Shippuden where she got new powers for a brief moment before going back to being useless. She's just objectively worst girl. If she were best, she'd have more memorable scenes but honestly I think most people would agree Hinata's scenes had more impact than anything Sakura ever did. She's just so... shit. Especially compared to this goddess.

Debate me.

>>150757883
>Hinata was the most popular female even in Nipland despite Sakura being a main character
Wrong. Sakura is voted the most popular female character in Nippon. How many times do we have to remind you Hinatafags?

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>>150757844
She would have doted on her.

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>>150757844
Probably would've loved her.

>>150757844
Supportive of her son no matter who he would choose, but based on her and Minato's dialogue, she probably would have preferred Sakura.

That dialogue gave us some great butthurt when the series ended since it gave the shippers false hope.

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>>150757925
Last official poll was in 2011

Hinata came in 10th with Sakura at 12th. She's tied with "Not Sasuke" for fuck's sake.

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>>150757925
Hinata beat her in several popularity polls, then she got her own movie.

>>150757883
This. Sakurafags BTFO.

>>150757972
>Sasori being that high.
I don't get it. He barely appeared in the series in general. He showed up in one arc and died.

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>>150756611
>Why was she best girl.
Because she wasn't

>>150757883
I never said Sakura wasn't shit. I don't like Sakura in the slightest.

But not liking Sakura does not mean I have to like Hinata.

I've been clear this whole thread. Hinata and Sakura are both shit. You can make your case against Sakura all you want. Its not even entirely wrong. But Sakura being shit doesn't make Hinata not shit.

>>150758001
>Hinata beat her in several popularity polls
Sakura has beat her in more than several.

>>150756611
She wasn't. Best girl was Temari and Anko was best woman. Also in b4 that one triggered Sakura stan.

>>150758025
Temari is definitely a good choice. Not my pick, but one of the top girls, easily.

>>150758022
Fujoshits. That's the only explanation for half the people being as high as they are.

>>150758049
>Anko
You mean the fat pig who has spent her entire existence in the series being irrelevant since the Chunin Exams?

>>150758025
This but I do like Hinata too.

>>150758022
He is cute,cool and had a interesting fighting style. Is a shame that he doesn't had to much role in the story, Same ith all the others akatsuki.

>>150756611
She's boring, and ill defined. In a better series she'd be among the worst girls but basically she got a bit of character development and she wasn't completely obnoxious which makes her a top tier Kishimoto character.
Personally I find her forgettable. She rarely does anything important and the "I'm so shy and fragile please notice me senpai" character just kinda irks me in general. Especially in a battle shounen.

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>>150757942
>>150757844
opposites attract

Kushina would have liked Hinata precisely because they're so different.

Kushina probably would have liked Sakura too, but that's because Sakura sucks up to most adults and constantly tries to ingratiate herself.

>>150758046
So? Hinata beat her in the most recent poll.

>>150758141
Kushina said to pick a girl like her. Minato makes it clear that Sakura is just like Kushina. She'd like Hinata sure, but her preference has already been made clear in canon.

Its irrelevant though, because she isn't the one picking. Its Naruto's choice and he made it.

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>>150758001
>when you win so hard you turn a shounen into a shoujo

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>>150758025
>literal fan girl

>Yet another "why is this my opinion?" thread
OP makes me ashamed to be a Hinatafag.

>>150757510
That's really what Boruto should have been, SoL comedy with Naruto doing hokage shit in the background. Is Kishi still getting money from that stupid continuation?

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>>150758134
Hinata was an angel. In a series where most characters do messed up things from time to time, she was consistently above reproach. It may make her unrealistic, but it also makes her lovable.

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>>150758046
Earlier on yeah. Hinata became an established love interest after she officially confessed, and her popularity boomed afterwards. They stopped doing official polls after 2011, probably because they didn't like the advertising certain character's failings, but with Hinata marrying Naruto, getting her own movie, and being Boruto's mother there's no reason to assume her position has done anything but increase since 2011. Those earlier polls are also comparing Hinata to Sakura back when Hinata only had a grand total of maybe 5 canonical scenes with Naruto. Once her screentime went from being .001% of Sakura's to .01% she became the immediate favorite.

>>150757022
She married Lee right?

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>>150758089
The brief moment when she wasn't irrelevant or fat, she actually had a very interesting backstory, a connection with a major villain (wich oddly enough the female lead lacked), and a design tha oozes cool. Too bad kishi did basically forgot about her.

>>150758292
She better have. Literally the only thing keeping me checking out Boruto is confirmation of whether this happened or not.

>>150758338
...she did though?

>>150758211
Kushina's idea of an ideal girl and who Kushina would have gotten along with aren't necessarily the same thing, anon.

>>150758025
Solid choice

A bit gruff but a sweetheart

>>150758310
Doesn't matter. Her character would have ruined Orochimaru's getting away with it endgame. We don't need her bitching.

>>150758211
Minato scarcely knew Sakura. What was made clear by both Minato and Tsunade, though, and indirectly by Kushina, who didn't realize that he had inherited her verbal tic, is that Naruto is the one who's exactly like Kushina. She'd probably like Hinata; she married a reserved and intelligent man similar to her in the form of Minato.

>>150758338
>she didn't marry Shikamaru
Nigga you what?.

>>150758134
>forgetting her standing up against Neji and Pain

>>150756611
she was so passive and docile you felt assertive and manly by comparison

in other words you're a beta

>Kiba x Karui didn't happen.
Goddamn it, Kishimoto.

UPSIDE DOWN

>>150756611
Hinata and Sakura are both worst girls.

The only thing I can say is that Sakura actually looks cute now in the Boruto storyline but she's still shit because she sticks with Sasuke who clearly wants nothing to do with her.

>>150758211
Kushina meant "find a good girl"

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>Hinata was best girl at each stage of her life
How does she do it? How is one girl so perfect?

>>150758358
Her character would have ruined Orochimaru's getting away with it endgame.
In what way?. Eminently she was never coing to complete her revenge since Oro is basically unkillable, but i think their relationship would have been an interesting way to know more about him.

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>>150758418
One of the best things about Hinata is that she turns Naruto into a better character. Around Sakura, Naruto acts like a pathetic beta faggot. Around Hinata, Naruto acts cool and manly.

>>150758351
I never said she wouldn't get along with Hinata. She would get along with whoever Naruto chose, even if it was Ino. She wants her son to be happy.

I never really finished Naruto, so what happened with Naruto's arm? I know he lost it in the last fight but whats going on with it now?

>>150758443
This new opening is great.

>>150758508
Got blown off with his final battle with Sasuke. Got it repaired with the 1st Hokage's OP DNA.

>>150756611
Sakura was better and hotter. Though that in itself isn't saying much.

>>150758418
>how dare guys like feminine women

>>150758508
Got a replacement cultivated from Hachirama's cells. He keeps it bandaged for whatever reason (maybe it just looks grotesque)

>>150756611
Anybody else think that Hinata was a lot cuter with her pre-time skip's short hair look?

>>150758536
So its weirdly colored like Danzo's was under the bandages?

>>150758494
It's because Sakura is manlier than Naruto, as Sai would probably say.

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>>150756990
>>150757370
Spotted the NScucks kek.

>>150758558
You can be feminine without being those.

Look at Ino. The complete opposite of Hinata. You gonna say she isn't feminine?

>>150757686
>The only people who gave a shit were the anime staff.
No, just Hinata's waifufags.

>>150758575
Don't know. We never see his arm without the bandages.

>>150758418
This is about the most meme reply you could have possibly came up with, and I don't even dig her.

>>150758272
I hate to break it to you, but a female character that is sweet, nice, inoffensive and cute is basically one of the most generic ways to write a girl.

I'd even rank it below the "girl who's always right and is smarter than all the boys" archetype because the former barely feels like a character. It feels like wish fullfillment.
"I'd totally love a cute girl who's nice and sweet and basically flawless and has no unnattractive tendancies or personality traits. And also she is madly in love with me and understands me more than anyone else because she can see that I'm special deep inside"

Hinata, outside of a few moments, feels like Barely a character. She's more like the IDEA of a character. The first draft of a character, maybe 2nd if I include all the interesting stuff about her family and her upbringing that barely gets touched on after it's brought up.

>>150758586
>Hating Hinata means you care about Sakura or NS
Whatever helps you cope with the criticism

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>>150758601
Holy shit how many times have you guys been wrong in this thread?

>>150758494
So much this

She always brought out his masculine protective side

>>150758505
You keep missing what I'm saying. Kushina would have loved Hinata. She would have loved Hinata, because of the type of person Hinata is, not just because Naruto loved Hinata. Kushina's theoretical criteria for the perfect waifu doesn't accurately reflect who she would love the most in real life. A person can say.

>Go find someone like me. People like me are the best.

but generally not get along with people who are like themselves. In fact, that's incredibly common in real life. Opposites attract.

>tfw we never got to see Hinata's butt

>>150758676
Holy fuck, the Hinatafaggotry. There is never a middle ground with you guys.

>>150758494
That's like saying around retards, Naruto looks super smart.
Yes. Yes he does. But it's not because he's suddenly smarter. It's because he no longer has to try to compete.
Naruto naturally has to take a more mature protective role, because Hinata strikes you completely as a girl who is either incapable or simply unwilling to take care of herself.

Even her most badass moments tend to end with her getting smacked down soon after.

>>150758482
Wouldn't Naruto still be young though? he has uzumaki longevity and jesus powers. Guy is basically immoral. whoever drew this is delusional.

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>>150758600
I love Ino, but she is pretty slutty. Not exactly a paragon of femininity either, you have to remember she is pretty short tempered and loud. I do like her better than hinata, but I can see where these anons are coming from.

>>150758731
That's why all the bitches love Sasuke. He may look like a fuccboi but he oozes masculinity.

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>There are niggers in this thread who don't think the idea of a girl being unconditionally in love with one person for his personality alone since childhood isn't admirable and pure as fuck.

Hinata best girl,woman,waifu,mother, etc. Just admit it.

>>150758731
I want the 13 year old kiddo to leave.

>>150756611
>Cooks
>Decent body
>From good family
>Supportive
>Kind

What is there not to like?

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>>150758757
I'm not sure where this meme comes from. I don't recall anyone ever saying his life expectancy would be significantly higher than a normal person's. If anything then went on at the beginning of Shippuden about how using the fox decreased his total life span.

>>150758676
And you keep avoiding my point.
I never said she wouldn't like Hinata. I'm saying she'd like Sakura better than Hinata.

Real life has nothing to do with a series where magic ninjas fly through the air and blow up mountains.
Naruto is a work or fiction, not reality. In works of fiction, things that happen inside said work of fiction matter far more than reality.

>>150758570
She was a shameless girl

>"L-Look at me Naruto-kun...I have short hair, Sasuke is a faggot"

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>>150756611
I Find her story more interesting than the main character

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>>150758852
Hinata is the perfect waifu. Why would Kushina not love her?

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>>150758627
>And also she is madly in love with me and understands me more than anyone else because she can see that I'm special deep inside
But Naruto was special and deep inside. He was a diamond in the rough. It's not like Hinata loves him for no reason; she was the only one who noticed what a great person he is.

>>150758600
Not really no

Ino is kinda mannish

>>150758779
Naruto never liked her anyway, he wanted sasugay's balls.

>>150758902
If Sasuke was a grill Hinata probably wouldn't stand a chance.

>>150758627
>a female character that is sweet, nice, inoffensive and cute is basically one of the most generic ways to write a girl

Same is true for male leads and heroes. You know why? Because people like and root for characters like that. It's not an "archetype." It's a series of moral and personality traits that people like in the real world so that's reflected for fictional characters, as well.

Also, more screen time does not equal a better or certainly a more likable character. That's Kishimoto's dumb logic. Despite the lack of screen time, Hinata's desire to better herself despite being regarded as a failure is the most complete motivation of any female character in the cast, outside of possibly Tsunade's.

>>150758838
It was said that Uzumakis have a long life span and strong vitality.What's-her-face Hashirama's wife lived from his time to Kushina's and helped with her training.

>>150758885
But how can Hinata be the perfect waifu when Kushina is a better waifu?

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>>150758902
>>150758916
Doesn't change that she's best "girl"

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>Sakura ended up a miserable drunk with a daughter who hates her

Like fucking poetry

>>150758662
And they were Hinata waifufags, not people that wanted her family to be relevant.

>>150758627
this is true, but she was still cute and it was fine for the way the story was written. its not a story about romance. its about naruto. naruto was a straightforward character in a world full of deception. one of the reasons he is popular is because of this. he has alot of simple motivations and goals in comparison to the other characters who have somewhat more complex storylines, morality and motives. hinata had enough simple but defining plot points to work as a side character. but you could apply the same criticism you gave to hinata to the entire female cast of naruto honestly. not literally but in the sense that the females are stereotyped and dont have any real defining traits and are more like ideas of characters than real ones.

>>150758852
>>150758885
>>150758728
>Real life has nothing to do with a series where magic ninjas fly through the air and blow up mountains.
>Naruto is a work or fiction, not reality. In works of fiction, things that happen inside said work of fiction matter far more than reality.
minato/kushina = opposite personalities
naruto/hinata = opposite personalities
sauce/sakura = wildly different personalities
shikamaru/temari = dissimilar personalities
chouji/brown girl = wildly different personalities

In this series, the people who get along the best are the ones who aren't like each other.

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>>150758975
>not people that wanted her family to be relevant.
Except they took everyone opportunity they got to make filler about them.

>>150758779
It's completely retarded when the girl has had like 5 total conversations before saying the L-word to him

>>150758973
>Sakura ended up a miserable drunk
>daughter who hates her
None of that is true.

>>150758968
Tsunade, Temari, Kushina and Konan have better claims to that title

>>150758917
>tfw you niggaz always forget how pure 10/10's drive to live up to Tsunade's example is.
She even became an expired cake to imitate her heroine.

>>150758917
These patterns occur in stories because they work

And people feel mentally satisfied by them

>>150758916
It would've made more sense if Naruto's the girl. His obsession with Sasuke felt like a girl trying to get back her ex.

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>>150758975
I doubt that. They're probably the ones who put Neji in the finale.

>>150759018
Well she is kind of miserable.The rest is just anon exgeratting.

>>150759080
Yeah, but most of Sasuke's actions can only be explained by him being on his period.

>>150758973
She did it

She got her hawt badboy

>>150759118
In a monkey paw kind of way, but yes.

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>People think Hinata being best waifu is something that's up for debate.

...Y'all are a special kind of retarded.

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>>150759089
Funny how in the manga he doesn't even make it into Naruto's list of people that got him to where he is now.

>>150759009
>forgetting they hang out offscreen

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>hinata is obsessed with naruto
>they talk like 3 times total in the manga before ending up together.
I just don't like it. He showed zero interest the entire time.
Like i know you shouldn't expect a serious love story in shonen, but its not believable in the least.

>>150759113
And she can only change her raging bitch ways when Naruto finally mans up to her. Which would have been their final fight at the Valley of the End.

>>150759159
I can't be the only one who thinks Sasuke looks super goofy with the rinnegan/homeless atire combo.

>>150759035
What the hell do people like about Konan? Some people say that Hinata is boring, but Konan is boring personified.

>>150758272
Oh yeah. Shino was a character.
What was even his purpose?
He gets no screen time. Did he even have a personal struggle or character arc?
I don't remember anything about the guy other than bugs and sunglasses.

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>>150759202
>He showed zero interest the entire time.
That's how shounens work. It's also why they made a movie.

>>150759159
To be fair, neither does Iruka. Kishimoto dropped the ball with that panel.

>>150759176
That's the stupidest excuse for lack of relationship development there can be.

Especially since Naruto spends all time between arcs training alone with either Jiraiya/Kakashi/frogs/Bee.

>>150758886
I don't deny that. The problem is that That's about all Hinata has going for her. She has not bite to her character. The most interesting thing about her is her crush on the MC and that's a bad sign in my book. She has sort of an interesting history with the Hyugas, her own teammates, and a desire to get stronger. But pretty much none of that is ever really used or shown. As a character she just feels a little flat. Talking about her is like talking about Ten-ten. I have an IDEA of her character, but I haven't seen enough layers to her personality to pretend she's a real person. I simply can't feel she's "best girl". I barely know her. Or if I do know her, she's really one note and boring.

>>150759245
I guess just to fill out the teams of three?

>>150759159
>Obito is on Naruto's list.
>Is responsible for the death of two people who are also on the list.
kek

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>>150759245
>What was even his purpose?
>He gets no screen time.
That's actually an in-universe joke. Even though the exact some criticisms could be applied to Kiba, Shino is just one of those characters nobody ever gave a fuck about and that they forgot to develop.

She's just been assigned as life-long teammates to these two gross boys and unimportant sensei. What is she thinking about?

>>150759202
>>150759250
Are you both fucking retarded? Hinata's end is 100% realistic. I mean, holy fuck, have you never heard of a one-sided crush? Have you never loved someone you weren't close to? It goes beyond being "common"; it's universal. EVERYONE experiences this at some point, particularly when they're young.

You sound like aliens impersonating human beings.

>>150759158
>we're never getting cute filler about Nardo and Hinata indulging each other's flower related hobbies

>>150759245
He was fucking beastly. I don't think he ever lost a fight on-panel. But Kishi loves to shove that shit show team 7 down our throats while ignoring the goldmine that were the supporting cast.

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>>150759238
Well, at least he covers it as an adult. He just needs to grow another arm to stop looking stupid.

>>150759300
She had her one little mini-arc during the chuunin exams, with Neji, Naruto, and her backstory. After that, she didn't get much to do, other than save Naruto, but she had more than a lot of side characters did.

>>150759324
Kurenai got shafted so fucking hard it's not even funny. And she was made a widow too because of some guy with heavy religious values.

>>150756980
Sakura was a bitch, Hinata was actually nice and sweet.

>>150759324
I forget but has Kurenai done ANYTHING besides getting one-shot by Itachi and being knocked up?

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>>150759324
Well, Kiba did get a fight with Naruto in the chunnin exams, was part of the Sasuke retrieval team and put up a decent fight against the strongest of the sound 4.

He also gave us pic related's hilarious moment

>>150759250
If you have to make a movie to explain something that should have been in the series proper, then you know that things are shit.

>>150759359
They need to stop fucking around and admit Naruto and Sasuke are both their dads. Just introduce mpreg or Naruto using his sexy jutsu to get pregnant with them.

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>>150759350
>the goldmine that were the supporting cast.
There was no goldmine, you just delude yourself into thinking that because of them being blank pages that you can fill out with positive wishful thinking when in reality they would have been affected by the same terrible writing that the characters that got focus did.

>>150759442
Except this was a shounen. It's like criticizing DBZ for never showing Goku and Chichi kissing.

>>150758917
Hinata's issue is that she's got nothing else to her. I say she's an archetype because beyond those features there's VERY little to her character.

Naruto is a very cliche shounen character but he's not exactly the same as luffy. Naruto has a personality, I understand his motivations (most of the time). He's got flaws that actually inform his character. Things he has to work through, things he won't ever work through and reactions to situations.

Hinata's just sort of flat. You can do a sweet cinnamon roll type character like her fine, but there should be something to spice her up. I want to see her with a bit more fire. Or more quirks (I liked the idea that she apparently eats a whole lot. That's something) Things other than responding to everything sweetly, bashfully and meekly. She's practically only got one emotion setting. Very little variance.

I'm not saying I hate her. I'm just saying "Best" is far too strong a word for what she is. She's decent but nothing hooks me into her. She's just kinda there and cute.

>>150759359
He also needs to ditch that vest thing. And the nodachi makes him looks super chunni (seriously, look at the length of that thing, he couldn't posibly unsheet that).

>>150759324
That seems to happen with a lot of shounen series. They end up with too many characters and have to cut older ones out.

>>150759202
It is what it is, unfortunately Naruto's cast became way too bloated and because of that the bulk of the cast were under utilized. It's a shame that more characters weren't able to be showcased, as there was an abundance of characters with unique abilities that it would have been nice to see more of but there's no sense in crying over things that can't be changed.

I did appreciate that they made the movie as a way to develop their relationship more opposed to just saying "that's that" but obviously more panel time within the manga would have been nice. Hell, I wish Kishimoto dropped the love triangle element all together - if for no other reason as it would've helped Sakura's character and prevented the fake confession disaster.

>>150759401
You can be those without being boring.

>>150759480
Why would you criticize DBZ for not showing something that never happened?

>>150759480
>Goku and Chichi
>kissing

Anon, you've chosen the worst possible choice to defend the shitty writing of Naruto's relationship to Hinata.

>>150758627
I hate to break it to you, but no one but you actually cares. Most people idealize this sort of girl because something more realistic appeals to only a tiny minority. Like it or not, if someone came across a genie that could only grant one of two wishes, "Keep all women and girls as is" or "Make them all generic sweet, innocent, kind and gentle but still mentally capable and intelligent" you can be absolutely guaranteed of which one of these option would be chosen.

>>150759344
Good, the best thing aside from the NS meltdown was the NHfags waking up and realizing that Kishi doesn't really give a shit about shipfaggotry when the gaiden was revealed to be about more Uchiha drama than about "muh happy OTP family SOL" like they thought it was going to be.

>>150759452
But they can't make ludicrously OP offspring if they're siblings.

>>150759493
Pretty much my opinion of her.She is far from being as detestable as Sakura or Karin are to me,but there isn't anything particularly endearing about her, other than her drive to better herself which was left mostly unexplored.

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>>150759493
Hinata had motivations and a personality. More than most, honestly.

>raised by a cold, emotionally-distant father
>disowned when she couldn't live up to being the heiress
>constantly fails and gives up
>hates herself
>painfully shy
>has to work her hardest to gain even an inch

You're not giving her enough credit.

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>>150759452
They are just good friends proud of their kids

>it took 15 years before Sasuke became a tolerable character

I really like the new Sasuke. Not edge-lord or angsty anymore.

>>150759571
Fair enough. Personally I just find it super trite and boring. A perfect girl with few flaws who is always nice and sweet just feels like dating a body pillow that says nice things to you when you squeeze it.

>>150759621
Now he's just sad all the time.

>>150759514
>Why would you criticize DBZ for not showing something that never happened?
Because that's exactly my point? If you're watching a shounen for the "romance' you're wasting your time.
>>150759565
>Anon, you've chosen the worst possible choice to defend the shitty writing of Naruto's relationship to Hinata.
How so? The criticism was that Naruto and Hinata's relationship isn't believable. Same could be said of DBZ because Goku doesn't even ever kiss Chichi. The bottom line is that romance subplots are never ever the focus on the work.

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>you will never go into the bath with Hinata
>you will never ask you to scrub her back
>she'll never take off her towel and let you see her full nude figure

Damn

>>150759646

Well he should be, but at least he acts with a higher purpose and not 'muh vengeance' now.

>>150759658
>How so?
Its canon that Goku has never kissed Chichi

>>150759619
>both of them thinking
"And now our romance can continue into the next generation."

>>150759621
Sasuke was alright in the Zabuza arc.

Whatever happened to Hinata mother?

>>150759670

>Nardo fucked her brains out and seeded her

Damaged goods now.

>>150759719
Nigger can you grasp reading comprehension? That's exactly the reason why I put those words in that order. Why do think that is? Because DBZ isn't a fucking romance.

>>150759576
Eh, that OVA with Naruto's inauguration as Hokage was pretty much that.One shojo-like movie is enough for this franchise, can't give shippers that much rope.

>>150759746
She died and shit.

>>150759618
See. I love these things. And when she fights Neji is one of my favorite Hinata moments. But it all kinda feels like it's told to us. Specifically for that fight. I can now accept that this is the truth about her past. But her personality in spite of this is just sorta withdrawn and on the backburner.

Rock Lee, by contrast, went through a lot for his skill, but you feel that in his character. The way he acts, his powerful emotions, the fact that he's constantly pushing himself to new heights. If they NEVER told you about Rock Lee's deficiency with Jutsu or how he was bullied for being inferior, you'd totally understand these things through his actions.

>>150759630

Let's put it in this content, there are men that are with you. They really would be. But the majority of men out there are working men, middle and low class make up the majority on the planet. They work hard unforgiving, often unrewarding jobs.

So do women these days, obviously, but let's speak from a purely male standpoint here.

When said sort of man comes home, what does he want? Does he want further challenge and stress? Or does he want to squeeze something soft and have it say something nice?

I won't claim every man would make the same decision, that's not what I'm getting at, but, from this perspective, can you at least understand why that might appeal to someone?

>>150759479
>>150759350
>There was no goldmine

10 year old Japanese boys want bigger rasengans and explosions while Western adults, such as those of us here, would have preferred strategy and a level of subtlety. Shino was liked in the West precisely for this reason.

Also, Sasuke and Sakura simply weren't interesting enough to support the amount of focus that they got. 700 chapters was not necessary to highlight "muh revenge." Togashi essentially covered the same ground with Kurapkia in a single arc, without having it become the entirety of his character.

>>150759618
All of that is there, but it's touched upon very superficially, so the potential to tell something interesting abut her is mostly squandered.Her issues with her father for example were pretty much resolved off-screen and that is not good story-telling.

>>150759832
Shino isn't liked or thought about anywhere in the world

>>150759480
The difference is Goku and Chi-chis' marriage is intentionally impromptu. They're both dumb hicks and Chi-chi basically Kung-fu shotgun wedding's him.

>>150759788
If its part of the plot, its up for criticism. Naruto isn't a romance but it has one anyway.

When did the idea of "Certain parts of a work should not be criticized because its not about them" become a thing?

>>150759930
But the criticism was that they needed a movie to explain the romance. That was the best option, because it's a step above what other shows like DBZ did but ignoring the question and resorting to absurd shit like never having the husband and wife kiss or having the father not give a shit about meeting his second son for the first time.
>>150759950
I really don't understand your posts at all. Naruto handles romance slightly better than other shounens like DBZ was my one and only point.

>>150759822
Oh I definitely get the appeal. I'm more talking about Hinata as a character. If I was propping her up against naruto, she's pretty ideal. Who doesn't want a perfect girl who loves you unconditionally and simply wants to cater to your desires.

But if I'm gonna call her a "best girl" I feel she should stand well on her own. As a character in a way other than romantic/sexual.Something just feels really hollow to me about a girl who seems too perfect. It's like having a puppy who's sweet and nice and loves you. But I wouldn't want to date someone who's just a puppy. I'd want to date someone who interacts with me in a unique way. Compliments my personality and builds me up or tears me down when I need it.

I'd describe Hinata as "inoffensive". I don't think she's bad by any stretch, but I wish she'd show more of that side, so she doesn't just look like a trophy wife who's there to do dishes and raise the kids.

>>150756990
>>Gave birth to annoying kids
Boruto is annoying, but Himawari isn't.
>>150757022
Remember, kids, your dreams matter only if you are of the chosen lineage.

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>>150759480
>It's like criticizing DBZ for never showing Goku and Chichi kissin

Bulma/Goku would have been far better. The only way to really approach Chichi/Goku is to take it as gag and to not take it seriously. Hinata/Naruto isn't a gag. He should have focused more on getting them together than he did on Naruto's homo-lust towards Sasuke. Even Kishi realized that he had fucked up, which is why he ended up killing off Neji to bring them together. That said, it stills feels natural because he set up a good foundation; it's a relationship anyone could have called ten years ago, and really should have become a thing right after the Chunnin Exams.

>>150760124
>I really don't understand your posts at all. Naruto handles romance slightly better than other shounens like DBZ was my one and only point.
Thats not an accomplishment or something to brag about.
If you were told what you were about to eat would at least taste better than shit, does that mean it actually tastes good? Of course not.

Being the better shit is not a valid defense.

>>150760188
>Boruto is annoying, but Himawari isn't.
I personally really did not like that chapter about her. Didn't find the humor funny at all.

>>150757341
>Uzumaki Hinata
>ability: 28%
I can see where Naruto's powers went.

>>150760242
Seriously? What the fuck are you talking about? My point was that this is a shounen so, like DBZ, they don't focus on romance. That's it. Calm down. I have no idea what you're going on about.

>>150760188
>but Himawari isn't
Well, she isn't really enough of a character to tell anything about her

>your dreams matter only if you are of the chosen lineage.

Not true, Guy, and Shikamaru got to do stuff despite not having any great ancestry. And Tsunade's successor was as much of a normie as Tenten was.

Tenten just sucks ass.

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>>150759755
simple yet effective

>>150760213
Well, I would argue the foundation for Sasusaku was there as well, and look at how thoroughly Kishi Fucked that up.I'd rather him not handle something above his capability.

>>150756611
Hinata is better than Sakura, but it's like birdshit is better than dogshit. Both are shit, but the former is alot more harmless and you're much less likely to get shitted on by a bird compared to accidentally stepping in dogshit.

It's because Hinata's presence is so periodic in comparison to Sakura's bloated screentime dedicated to her fucking up that it's easy to simply like the one you know the least about. Hinata also gives room for imagination, which is what her fags cling to.

>>150760213
That's the big issue. They have a lot of moments but then stay physically distant from each other for a majority of the series. You could have put in more moments of them communicating, Hinata going from nervous and shy to being very open and vocal. She might help him with things or be someone he confides his true feelings in. Just sprinkle more little moments across the series. Rather than just saying "as you know, Hinata and Naruto are meant for each other and so now they got married"

(Also on a personal note I prefer Goku/Chi-chi for the simple reason that, while Chi-chi's naggy she plays off of Goku really well. The fact that they're both kinda backwoods hicks and she contradicts him a bit. She mostly nags and picks on him because she cares and doesn't want him or ESPECIALLY her son to die or get injured. But when Goku tells her that he has to do this, she always relents. She cheers him on from the sidelines and worries for their safety. I feel you actually learn more about Chi-chi's character/personality from her marriage than we did before it and I like that)

>>150760354
Problem is that the foundation got hammered with negative development for most of part 2 and didn't have any fags in the anime studio trying to fix up or retcon Kishi's mess.

>>150760295
I started by saying if you have to make a movie to explain that should have been in series, then its shitty writing

You're argument is "don't criticize it because its shonen."

Not valid. As I said, if the series includes something, its open for criticism.

Just because its shonen, which is not a genre but a demographic, doesn't mean it can't have its romance criticized.
Nisekoi was a shonen and was about romance.

>>150760473
>demographic


a 10+ year old comic that didn't age up to the pace of its aging audience, so it failed in that regard.

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>>150760354
Kishi ruined that foundation by having Sasuke try to kill her. If the biggest thing that stood out about their interaction had remained their scene in the Forest of Death it wouldn't have become a subject of mockery

Meanwhile when he actually did touch any interaction between Naruto and Hinata, it was stuff like her dying against Pain to save him, or snapping him out of his Neji-induced blue screen. Stuff that built on rather than destroyed the foundation he laid down.

>>150760473
Not him, but since you mentioned Nisekoi, what you are doing would be equivalent to criticize Nisekoi's fights (which did exist) for being shit, despite not being the focal point of the narrative. This isn't just a trivial matter, most battle shonen authors (probably not Kishi, he just sucks at it) deliberately avoid progressing romance too much, so as to not put off their core demographic.

>>150760639
I'm not defending Sasusaku by any means.I'm just pointing out how easily Kishi can destroy what little he manages to establish when he actually gives something focus.He could have made NH entirely unpalatable just as easily as you guys think he could have rounded up their relationship.

>>150760639
damn. look how much the art style changed. hand drawn stylish shit into copy paste templates.

>>150760681
I stand by my point, if its in a piece of work, its open for criticism. If it does something poorly, don't make excuses for it.

Thats an issue I have here. People think that because they get what they want in a series, in this case, Naruto ending up with Hinata, the end result means that how the story reached that point is irrelevant.

You can like a result and still admit its shitty writing that reached that conclusion.

>>150760639
>Kishi ruined that foundation by having Sasuke try to kill her
I think the bigger problem was never bothering to fix the negative development with positive development aside from an apology and a forehead poke.

The gaiden would have been a good opportunity for it but instead it was deadbeat dad and the baby mamma drama subplot happened and it required Sasuke to show no emotion towards his family whatsoever until the last chapter.

>>150760976
Kishi has a lot of artistic talent. I think his fight choreography was pretty great and his posing was incredibly dynamic and his effects were decent but he just fell into the trap a lot of shounen artists do and his art lost a lot of the spirit and style to it and became more controlled and run of the mill. You can tell that Kishimoto was more than ready to just end it towards the finale. He was running on fumes.

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>>150761048
Sarada's a good kid and I honestly just feel bad for Sakura because this family just bums me out. I know I'm in the minority when I say this but hell, Sakura deserves better.

>>150761092
A weekly series simply slowly murders the author.

>>150761160
She should have gotten with Lee, I keep tellin' people.

>>150761160
They look so awful on this one panel, going digital really killed Kishi's art.

>>150761238
What do you mean? It made it better.

>>150761160
With Kishi doing the writing you just know that there is going to be pointless cheap drama.

But for a such a huge Sasukefag he shouldn't have overdone it with how much of a deadbeat dad he became. It's just bad writing for his character, especially when Kishi has spent so much time trying to make us believe that he was worth saving.

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Can we talk about how cute Hinata is please?

>>150761306
I don't find her cute at all.

>>150761260
What?. His sketchy style was his best.After a certain point he just forsook toning altogether, barely tried with panel detail and shading, the characters in general looked lifeless and less dynamic.This is all the consequence of not being able to churn content week in and week out, which is why he went digital and deteriorated his art even further.

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>>150761335
B-bakana!

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>>150761306
Can we talk about how cute Madara is instead?

>>150761306
Not everyone agrees with this, you know? Different strokes for different folks.

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>>150761189
Sakura and Lee makes much more sense. Lee saved her when she was in trouble. He was an all around better person than Sasuke and despite his stupid face was pretty attractive and would've treated her like a queen.

But more than that, Sakura's power's are incredibly taijutsu based and Lee is a taijutsu master. I would've loved to see Sakura train with Rock Lee to improve her physical capabailities (y'know, so she could be relavent)

But then I guess her daughter wouldn't have the hax eyes and we can't have that.

It's a damn shame that Sarada's so great because I pretty much think every other aspect of Sakura and Sasuke as a couple is dumb.

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>>150761377
Go away and make your own thread which Madara are you talking about?
>>150761381
Everyone finds Hinata cute anon.

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>>150761306
I'd rather talk about how cute pink shitis. It's easy to talk about how Cute hinata is, that's basically her whole character! Talk to me about how someone completely uncute is cute.

>>150761377
But which Madara yada yada yada...

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>>150761428
Underwear model Madara

>>150761394
I really thought, in part 1, that Sakura was gonna get some actual development and get over Sasuke and go for Lee.

And they could have had an OP kid too with Sakura and Lee's straight combined. They would have spawned an OPM-tier shinobi.

>>150761394
>Lee saved her when she was in trouble.
To be fair, so did Sasuke after Lee jobbed.

>>150761484
Lee never tried to murder Sakura.

>>150761483
>And they could have had an OP kid too with Sakura and Lee's straight combined
Honestly, super strength and sharingan is a better combination.

Just imagine the shit a susanoo with exploding chakra fists could do.

>>150756611
Hanabi or Sakura is better than her.

Ino is best Naruto girl overall.

>>150761412
>Everyone finds Hinata cute anon.
I don't

>>150761533
>Not wanting Byakugou + The Gates.
Literally could break a Susanoo like nothing at that point.

>>150761573
yes you do

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>>150761573
Of course you do anon

>>150761534
>Hanabi
At least name an actual character

>>150761706
Hanabi Hyuga you dumbass.

Naruto should have chosen another white girl like Ino or Samui. He needs to keep his rare Namikaze aka Aryan genes intact.

>>150761714
At least name an actual character

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>>150761742
She's best girl's sister, and also second best girl

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>>150761740
>He needs to keep his rare Namikaze aka Aryan genes intact.
But he did

>267
>67
>57

Narutofags are taking over /a/ with its cancer.

>>150761662
>>150761675
I really don't

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>>150761762
I hate how Burrito had lavender eyes originally and then had it changed to blue. I also hate how Sunflower and Burrito kept those stupid fox whisker things. Naruto didn't inherit them from his parents, why did they get passed down?

The only part of Burrito's design that comes form Hinata is the hair kinda. At least Sunflower looks like both Naruto and Hinata. Burrito just looks like an asexual clone of Naruto.

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>>150761483
I had to quickly draw out what I think that'd look like. A sakura/lee kid would be a pretty badass character. A quick to the trigger martial artist who can supplement their already incredible power with chakra control.

>>150761851
>I hate how Burrito had lavender eyes originally and then had it changed to blue
They were always meant to be blue in all of the material made by Kishi

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>>150761850
Anon... this stopped being funny. Tell me you think Hinata is cute right now.

>>150761911
I do not think Hinata is cute

>>150761854
>Not a boy with pink hair and big pink eyebrows.
Other than that it looks very good.

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>>150761922

>>150761932
That would be one ugly ass kid, especially if he copies Guy's haircut.

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>like hinata long before naturo even knows she exists
>she fucks naruto

>like real life girl for years before she even meets other guy
>she fucks him

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>>150762021
>blogposting
Maybe you should kill yourself anon

>>150761886
>The only part of Burrito's design that comes form Hinata is the hair kinda
Wavy hair isn't really the same as straight hair.

>>150762061
meant to respond to >>150761851

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test

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testo

>>150761988
>Mocking the haircut of the man who almost KILLED Madara Uchiha.
Blasphemy!

>>150759159
That's because Naruto influenced Neji, not the other way around.

>>150762119
it actually looks cool when wearing the forhead protector

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>>150756611
BEEG

NEENJA

TEETEES

>>150757016
This X1,000,000,000,000

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Can we just all agree Hinata and Naruto are cute together?

>>150762327
No because naruto doesn't love hinata he just got peer pressured into it

>>150761851
>Burrito just looks like an asexual clone of Naruto.
I guess because they are trying to make him some sort of Naruto/Sasuke combination

>>150762327
Eh, not really. The series never made me care about their relationship. It tells me to care, but it doesn't make me care.

>>150762356
You've got to love the nice pretty lady that makes you food, cleans your house, babysits your kids and sucks your dick.

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>>150762356
>>150762385
Ya'll are heartless.

>>150762394
You really don't have to love the mexican maid you hired.

>>150762422
>her standard hair is still the best

kishi is a genius

>>150762394
I don't have to love someone who does those things at all. Hell I could pay someone to do those things.

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>>150762489
I hope you find love someday anon

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>>150762520
Who needs that when you got pottery?

>>150758536
>Got it repaired with the 1st Hokage's OP DNA.
Shouldn't that give Naruto wood shit powers?

>>150757686
>cool as fuck
>enslaved half their family

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>>150762622
He gives Hinata wood every night anon

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>>150761483
Lee never stood a chance since Sakura cares only about looks. But damn, at least Sakura was kind to him and stood up for him. Lee would have made Sakura a better person. Sakura was really only an shitty person towards Naruto and a doormat around Sasuke.

Shame Lee and Sakura never had a Perona baby.

>>150762327
No, Naruto clearly got bored of her after pumping her twice. It's clear he'd prefer Sasuke but got the doormat vaginal knockoff instead

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>>150762678
More like the clone disappears while he is off with his true love: needless paperwork

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>>150762697
>got bored of her after pumping her twice

He's gay but not that gay

>>150759389
>heavy religious values
What's this about?

>>150757388
So sweet I spit out a tooth and some blood.

>>150762327
Honestly, I can't take them seriously as a couple after they get embarrassed when their hands touch while catching baby Boruto.

His dick has been inside her vagina and they get embarrassed by touching hands in their own home with no one around? Thats not cute, its cringey.

>>150762736
Blame Kishi or whoever for that. Dude admitted he can't write romance for shit.

>>150762736
What? Are you talking about some cringey fanart?

>>150762733
Lord Jashin of course.

>>150762742
Exactly why NH is shit then

>>150759389
And by the end she had more interactions with Shikamaru than with her actual students

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>>150762327
Naruto is cute with everyone! Except Sakura.

>>150762746
No, it was official stuff.

>>150762794
There is no shit with baby Bort in any canon stuff aside from some family pictures

>>150762783
...why would Hinata need binoculars?

>>150762822
Byakugan only shows chakra or xray vision.

>>150762867
They've used it to scout several meters ahead before though. They can see far distances.

>>150762898
But she would still only be able to see a skeleton or a pile of chakra

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>>150761742

>>150762933
You are being meme'd, he is saying that Hanabi is too much of a borderline literally who to be considered a character.

Same as some above post calling Tenten an OC

>>150762933
Anon, I can't tell if you're just slow or stubborn but the anon is insinuating that Hanabi Hyuga isn't a real character in the broad sense, rather than a literal sense.

Like saying "Who's the best heroine? Sakura. Name an actual heroine"
He's being dismissive, not ignorant.

>>150762520
Tfw you are one generation away from a full natural user of the Rinnegan

>>150762976
You can't get the rinnegan without being either an Indra or Ashura reincarnation.

>>150763003
I thought you just had to mix Uchiha and Senju DNA.

>>150762969
So what shes a better cock warmer than her sister anyday.

I need doujins of Naruto cucking Hinata with her tighter younger sister.

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>>150763012
No

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>>150763012
If that were the case then nigger Zetsu would have just had to play cupid between a Senju and an Uchiha and make them breed.

>>150763020
>>150763034
Oh well. The fact remains though that Boruto and Sarada will have powerful kids.

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>>150763061
Eh, who knows? Bort so far has been a huge disappointment.

Maybe we get Hagoromo Uzumaki, maybe we get another blonde retard spamming shadow clones and rasengans.

>>150761238
>>150760976
>digital
What?

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Reminder that she should be out in two months