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Describe this oni without using the word "coma"

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Describe this oni without using the word "coma" or "potato"
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Blue Ram
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Rem is getting married!
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>>150604513
Shit.
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Is this the thinly veiled? If so new chapter is out.

https://mega.nz/#!YUFXiALY!-oMtiL5HgkPqHqNdZz7HzRTrchCGS-RsAvJUgZAk-8Y
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>>150604513
Comato
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>>150604524
>Cuck

Oh if only you knew
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>>150604513
best girl after Emilia
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>>150604551
Thanks
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>>150604551
>Subaru: “Resolve, ability, determination... it's always that I'll be lacking in everything. Why am I just so weak? Huh, Rem?”

Oh great, he's talking to the corpse now.
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>>150604551
Nobody cares. Fuck off.
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>>150604513
Too good for this shit series.
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>>150604644
She isn't dead anon
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>>150604668
She practically is though, a body without a soul is still technically a dead body.
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>>150604551
Thank you
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>>150604551
>Gaaf taking Rem hostage to have Subaru follow him every whim

Wew
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Way too lovie dovie for my liking. EMT or bust.
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Emilia daisuki
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>>150604513
Vegetable
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I LOVE EMILIA
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I LOVE EMILIA
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>>150604877
>>150604882
great minds think alike huh. EMT for life
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>>150604551
>Garfiel: “Y'mean, give 'er back? Hey now, there's some pretty heavy attachment y'got. What happened t'th'girl yer love bein' Emilia-sama?”

Even Gaaf is catching on Subaru doesn't really love Emilia huh?
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>>150604877
>>150604882
LOL
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>>150604513
Log
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>>150604513
Vegetable.
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>>150604513
Superior twin.
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>>150604980
Poor Gaaf is basically on his deathbead now. That or probably pummeled down, the man touched Rem.
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>>150605042
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>>150605213
Having both is good, but Rem is still better
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>>150605258
Not even both anymore, Subaru is unable to enter any relationship without thinking of Rem anymore, Rem won.
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>>150605213
>moved'd
Is this a thing? I have never seen this.
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>>150605258
Once Lust came around it was pretty clear who the winner was. Subaru may state he likes both but Emilia definitely has some Witch fuckery surrounding her which makes Subaru like her.

>[Carmilla: I won’t…please…d-don’t hit me….]
>[Subaru: I won’t do that. I won’t do that, but….why did you do that thing from before?]
>[Carmilla: Thing…..from before?]
>[Subaru: I’m talking about the thing where you appeared before me with Rem’s appearance! That’s your ability!?]
>Considering she was a witch that was crowned with the reputation of grave sins, she should be someone who holds a completely special type of authority. If she was the Witch of Lust, she absolutely should be in possession of authority. If that authority was the transformation from before, then—–,
>[Subaru: That transformation power of yours paled in comparison to the other Witches’ powers, huh.]
>[Carmilla: Huh? I didn-I didn’t….transform. I-If I looked..like someone..else….tha-that was just….bec-because of your imag-imagination.]
>[Subaru: What?]
>[Carmilla: What I me-mean is……I-I didn’t even want to s…..see you. They told me that Echidna-chan is carrying it out, so……I used up all my lies, so……]
>Carmilla’s grumbled whispers made Subaru’s irritation within him grow even worse. He hated her way of speaking; he hated the way she projected her gaze; he hated her frailness of looking down after sensing a gaze coming her way. Everything and anything irritated him. Her excessively delicate way of speaking, her seemingly irritated quarreling, what the hell was all that about? On top of not being able to clearly let out the words she wanted to say, she did not understand how she pretty much trampled all over Subaru’s deep care for that person with her own mimicry, while being unaware of just how deep his care for that person actually was.
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>>150605424
People should really stop pissing off Subaru, Carmilla nearly got pummeled if it weren't for Echinda.
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>>150604877
>>150604882
Why did you faggots have to make this a meme? Now I can't even express my love for Emilia without everyone thinking I'm anti-Rem.
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>>150605504
Why would you like the obviously she is going to be Satella girl?
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>>150605385
What episode is this?
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>>150605547
18
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>>150605547
ep 18
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>>150605504
>he likes emilia unironically
Vomit.jpg
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>>150605042
does he actually like emilia or is he just being forced to because of magic
cuz this shit makes no sense
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Is Subaru a dad now?
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>>150605650
>not liking kindhearted sheltered princes

I understand you feel that she is boring but hating on her is just being salty
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>>150605709
He has basically three adoptive daughters so I guess, all he needs now if some man bulk.

>>150605693
He likes Emilia for 4 reasons

>Its remnants of when he though he was the "hero of the story"
>Has a fetish for silver-haired heroines, there was also an illustration of his room that further reinforces that
>Most likely witch fuckery
>She is his "escape" so to speak and an excuse to be pathetic

Its much more complex than that and would probably take 2000 or more words to describe the psychology as to why Subaru likes Emilia but here's the gist of it.
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>>150605738
You do know that she mentally 13 years old right?
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>>150604644
He has always been talking to the "corpse" though.

Quite the priority list this man has
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some anon posted a translation of chapter 65 in the previous thread made by spfag.

http://pastebin.com/myNBH8Ls

PDF version because I hate pastebin
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9bdKQXA_CLQYTdGUjd2N1U4MTQ/view
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>>150605935
yeah, so she still has space to grow and mature
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>[Subaru: Hey, Rem. This day was decided by force, but was it a bother?]
>[Rem: A bother?]
>[Subaru: You looked like you were waiting in front of the gate, but I was just kinda thinking that it didn’t look like you were very calm. Never mind, can’t do anything about it now. It’s just a matter of taking care of things earlier.]
>Subaru awkwardly trying to guess Rem’s emotions caused her to look like she was about to burst into laughter. Just like Subaru said, it was too late to worry about it now, so there was no point in breaking the ice with such anxiety. However, she started to feel a slight inclination to be unkind.
>[Rem: That’s right. To speak the truth, I was arranging my thoughts when I was doing various work, and then things I wanted to do came into mind, which meant that I was prevented from doing them because of daily work.]
>[Subaru: I apologize….....for being ignorant.]
>[Rem: I also have various work arranged. I‘ve avoided it today, so that might cause me to be hindered by tomorrow’s arrangements and the arrangements after that day as well. It’s also true that I’ve been bothered because of that.]
>[Subaru: I’m foolish…….Y─your little kindness has been a great…….]

Subaru is pretty whipped by Rem huh?
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>>150606100
>spfag

Please don't mention his name around here
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>>150606109
I really hope you are joking
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>>150606173
lol what did he do?
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>>150606145
Not really whipped, its just daily banter between those two. Rem just loves giving Subaru shit when she has the chance.
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>>150606145
Its surprising this is her after she fell in love with him
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>>150606227
He spoonfed lies, caused waifuwars etc. If you want to know the reason why everybody hates the Re:Zero fanbase it is all because of that guy.
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>>150606195
Isnt maturing part of character development?

If she is mentaly 13 at the beginning it is obvious she should mature during adventure, and she is main heroine according to author.
Her development is slow but not over yet, althought it may stay that way and then I will agree its shitty writing and that she turned out to be shitty character.
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>>150606433
Problem is she hasn't yet and its already arc 6. Also its not really bad writing. Its more because that's is her character and her character role she is supposed to be the generic "main heroine" that is forever "pure" damsel just as the author intended, which was reinforced with this illustration and Regulus. You need to keep in mind Tappei has planned everything since the beginning.
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>>150606576
Geez that poster in the upper right looks like it's basically Emilia with pigtails
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Return to Death!

Arere?
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>>150606702
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>>150604513
shit character from a shit show
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>>150604513
Butterface
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>>150604513
Ded potato.

I failed.
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>>150606643
Yeah, it basically panders to Subaru's fetish and Tappei hates otaku fetish pandering so.
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>>150604513

Inferior Maid
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>>150604513
NOT up to Sukia Ibuki standards in what we expect in an Oni
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>>150605042
>>150605385
>>150605650
>>150605693
>>150605839

I’m not sure if y’all just have bad memories or something. But here’s the simple version.

Rem
>murdered and tortured Subaru because of mere suspicions. Little regard for human life, and will kill on a whim. Has not changed in any way from this behavior. Hyundai just learned to work around it to make her trust him, rather than her undergoing moral repentance. She’s been appeased, rather than changed.
>no identity outside her devotion to Toyota and Ram. Their relationships with Rem define her.
>no greater aim in life than her service to the above two.
>supportive of Suzuki’s hero fantasy, when he needs to be brought back to reality

Emilia
>never attacked or killed Honda, has only healed him. Sometimes to the point of her own exhaustion
>has an identity outside her relationships with Audi and Puck.
>wants to gain political power to bring about civil rights. I guess the study of magic counts as a life goal, too.
>shoots down Acura’s prideful lies about doing it for her. Sees that he only appeasing his sense of heroism, rather than a desire to actually help.

Sure, Rem is cute, loyal, and deadly. But she’s not a full person. She’s a puppy, hopelessly loyal and unquestioningly devoted. Fun as a character, but not good as a wife.
Emilia is a fully realized person. She exists independently of others, and doesn’t capitulate to Mazda’s illusions of his own importance.

Did I miss anything?
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>>150607426
So basically "I am an anime-only" yeah?
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>>150607426
>murdered and tortured Subaru because of mere suspicions

So has many people who have killed archbishops and the witch cult, while her actions were wrong her judgement was right. What is she suppsoed to think when a mysterious man enters her mansin smelling like an archbishop.

It also doesn't help that Subaru also literally became an archbishop later on in the story.

>no identity outside her devotion to Toyota and Ram. Their relationships with Rem define her.

Her duties and aspirations to become Crusch-like as well as many other things, she takes pride in being head maid and has used it to her advantage more than once.

>no greater aim in life than her service to the above two

Then she wouldn't have regarded to claim to become more confident, independent and look up to Crusch

>supportive of Suzuki’s hero fantasy, when he needs to be brought back to reality

You are fucking retarded if you think was what "From Zero" was. Subaru himself stated it has her alone is what is tying him to accept and face reality.

>never attacked or killed Honda, has only healed him. Sometimes to the point of her own exhaustion

Oh you poor anon.

>has an identity outside her relationships with Audi and Puck.

Actually no true, she is the very definition of a sheltered child.

>wants to gain political power to bring about civil rights. I guess the study of magic counts as a life goal, too.

Her motives are actually more selfish. She wants to become king to fufill her contract with Roswaal to unfreeze her village. Basically she made a deal with the devil.

>shoots down Acura’s prideful lies about doing it for her. Sees that he only appeasing his sense of heroism

Its actually quite the opposite, its her basically going "you don't really love me!" on Subaru, Emilia couldn't even bring herself to insult Subaru like Rem does all the time.
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>>150604513
discount rei
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>>150604513
Ram is better
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>>150604551
>toyota giving rem a horn blowjob
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>>150607426
Leavig aside the other stuff for now, you and Subaru have no idea how much deep shit he was in that loop.

Let's look at the facts

>the witch stench is enough to trick most cultists into thinking you're one of them

Okay that sounds bad but that's doesn't...

>witch cultists are kill on sight by law

Alright I don't see where...

>uses knowledge of the mansion layout to steal a specific knife even though he's a guest

Subaru what the fuck, wait

>starts spying on them

Oh shit, you've done it now but maybe if you explain yourself...

>barely tries because he doesn't understand the gravity of the situation, in the books she even asks if he's a cultist

There was one solution here. That may or may've not worked and that was to use Puck or maybe Beatrice since they're telepaths who can read intentions and can detect the scent. But they're mostly amoral products of witches themselves. Which is why they can smell him. Ask her to bring him to the cat ffs.

>was finished off by Ram

Meaning pretty much no one trusted him. Now Rem wasn't exactly in the right but Subaru dug himself deep like a tard and didn't reflect much on the entire situation as a whole. This won't be the last time he is under suspicion either. Keep in mind he was also a literally who claiming to buy back the amulet from their perspective without meeting Emilia first which sounds fishy as fuck. He had spy written all over him.

Oh and Rem shit talks him all the time in the books and brings him to reality just fine. She's like her sister but uses fake politeness to talk shit. Luckily for him it's usually constructive or not unprovoked.
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>>150607426
>supportive of Suzuki’s hero fantasy, when he needs to be brought back to reality
Nah. She calls Subaru weak, lazy, pathetic, and incompetent quite regularly. She rarely ever denies any kind of insult aimed at Subaru. She doesn't support his fantasy about being this super cool hero who can overcome any situation singlehandedly or take on a trained knight one on one.

She supports the reality that he's able to make a difference, despite all of his shortcomings, and pressures him to be the best he can. That's why Subaru thinks she's harder on him than anyone else. She expects more from him than anyone else, and won't accept anything less.
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>>150608957
I also want to add to this anon's statement that this goes both way's as Subaru is basically the same to Rem in this regard.
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>>150607426
And this is why the way the anime was handled was a mistake. It's like it fooled some people into thinking on reverse of how things actually are.
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>>150604513
Waifubait.
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>>150604513
Who?
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>>150605738
>kindhearted sheltered princes
One of the most dull and generics character archetypes seen.
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>>150604815
someone's gonna die and that someone will be most likely strangled to death.
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>>150604551
>Petra and Frederica's burials ended with unanticipated simplicity.
>He arranged their appearances for their interment, wiping their bloodied skin and faces clean with a cloth. He changed them into new sets of clothes with shame. And of course, no indecent feelings welled up.
>When he took their cold, stiff bodies to pass their arms through the sleeves of their clothes, he wanted to cry. But his eyes would only grow drier, his heart imprisoned by an incomprehensible emotion.
>Subaru: “...At least, have peace.”
>Above their graves he prays for their repose.

You've come a long way Subaru
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>>150609485
Subaru will never stop being a bitch they said
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>>150606273
Not at all, she's more like that wife who lowkey bullies her husband.
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>>150609101
Some people are just shit at paying attention either way. The entirety of episode 18 goes on to show yes Rem's love has conditions, and no she won't just do whatever he wants (even 99% of the nice shit she did was her own volition without being requested). And she's doing the exact opposite of letting him escape reality by making him go head to head with it agai instead of running away like a little bitch. Quite a few viewers simply forgot there was much more than a love confession going on from both sides and apparently just stopped reading the subtitles telling you all this shit until the very end of the episode so they could meme.
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Reading though Arc 6, and it seems like Emilia does most of the fighting now. Not sure if that actually makes her better, since I already like Julius more.
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>>150604513
Onihole.
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>>150609975
Does she? Well at least she has that going for her I guess. Hopefully she becomes more useful later on.
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>>150604513
Who?
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>>150604513
blue haired midget rat
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>>150610041
She's definitely useful. If that was the only reason to dislike her, then that's certainly been handled. Unfortunately, I haven't seen many good character interactions from her yet. She lets Subaru do most of the talking when it comes to dealing with people, and their own interactions are the usual meme-flirting and slight confusion.
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>>150610143
>She lets Subaru do most of the talking when it comes to dealing with people, and their own interactions are the usual meme-flirting and slight confusion.

God dammit I was just starting to like her too
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>Why had the girl going I WANT TO DIE PLEASE KILL ME I WANT TO DIE PLEASE KILL ME ultimately shoved Subaru out of the way? Her promptly noticing Elsa's survival and pushing Subaru out of danger meant what, exactly? Subaru didn't want to be enough of an imbecile to not understand it.
>The congealed blood on his sweaty brow moistens, painting his face in red, his state atrocious. Should the villagers witness Subaru now, the proper reaction would be to greet him with a horrified shriek.
>When he took their cold, stiff bodies to pass their arms through the sleeves of their clothes, he wanted to cry. But his eyes would only grow drier, his heart imprisoned by an incomprehensible emotion.
All the MGSV jokes of the one-eyed Subaru loop seem too meek now. This is beyond nuclear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9hagVL-__c
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>>150610253
Well, I'm not sure if I'm reading things right. However, it seems like Subaru actually keeps a lot of secrets from her about what's going on. I'm not sure she even knows Anastasia is possessed by the Echidna spirit. I believe it was also said that he has private talks with Roswaal, to which she's not invited.
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>>150607584
Yes. But I’m going to read that “80,000 word summary” thing I’ve seen people throwing around. This is why I asked if I was correct at the end. I’ve only watched the anime so far.

>>150608666
Three things:
Rem killed Subaru for just leaving his room before the whole incident you described. She ripped off his arm in the dark before finishing him off. That’s the reason he knew to listen for “the sound of chains”. This incident alone cements Rem as an immoral person. Did I miss something here?

You make a good case for Rem’s suspicions. Well done. Yes, Subaru handled the whole third attempt very poorly. He does that. It’s his thing. Regardless, innocent until proven guilty is the key thing here. Rem had reasonable suspicion that Subaru was up to something (which he was). But “he is very, very suspicious” does not lead to “I will torture him for information” except in the minds of evil people.
Put it in real-life context. If some vigilante in America captured and tortured his Arab neighbor because he was acting suspicious, whistling the ISIS theme, and buying a lot of 7.62x39mm ammo, would you defend him? The Arab might just find it catchy, and has an AK-47 like plenty of law-abiding Americans. Is the vigilante justified?

I got the impression Ram just arrived to find out what Rem had done, and mercy-killed Subaru. Not because she didn’t trust him, but because she pitied him. Am I wrong?
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>>150610340
At this point it isn't the Emilia faction anymore, that's basically the Subaru faction now. He's basically running the faction by himself at this point.
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>>150608957
This is all true. Yet this is also the problem. I didn’t mean to imply Rem helps Subaru believe he’s Kirito or something.
I mean she encourages his delusion that he’s justified in what he does. That this world revolves around him, and the rules don’t apply to him. He thinks he’s an RPG hero, and anything that helps him complete his own objective is fair-game.
The most obvious example is when she looks the other way to let him sneak into the Royal Selection ceremony. She knew that he promised not to go. But rather than making him keep his promise, which would have meant saying “no”, she uncritically trusts his judgment.

I will admit Rem is somewhat correct about this, though. Since the whole Return by Death thing actually does give Subaru insight into further events.

>>150609101
Mind explaining what you mean? I haven’t heard too many anons say the anime was a bad adaptation. Most criticism is for the source material itself. I’m going to track down English translations at some point and become more informed.
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>>150610358
>I got the impression Ram just arrived to find out what Rem had done, and mercy-killed Subaru.
Ram is the one who uses wind magic, and Subaru even realizes the feeling of her attacks is exactly the same as when his leg got cut off.
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>>150610385
>The most obvious example is when she looks the other way to let him sneak into the Royal Selection ceremony. She knew that he promised not to go. But rather than making him keep his promise, which would have meant saying “no”, she uncritically trusts his judgment.

Actually she was forced to let SUbaru go to the royal selection by Roswaal's orders. If it weren't for her orders she would have manhandled Subaru like always. It was more shocking when she actually did allow him in the WN, because that was so unlike her.
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>>150610385
>Mind explaining what you mean? I haven’t heard too many anons say the anime was a bad adaptation. Most criticism is for the source material itself.
You are new in these threads right? The anime skipped tons of characerizations and background. Like they went really safe with Rem and Emilia making them far more shallow they actually are. The source material is far better.
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>>150610385
>The most obvious example is when she looks the other way to let him sneak into the Royal Selection ceremony. She knew that he promised not to go. But rather than making him keep his promise, which would have meant saying “no”, she uncritically trusts his judgment.
Oh, that's just another casualty of the anime. Rem was actually ordered by Roswaal to ignore Emilia's wishes and let Subaru do whatever he felt like.
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>>150610385
The anime was a safe and rushed adaptation more than a bad one. The source material adresses all of that in far more detail and you see the characters aren't as simple as the anime made them because of how rushed it was. Whoever is bashing the source material for that point doesn't have any fucking idea what he is talking about.
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>>150610385
>I mean she encourages his delusion that he’s justified in what he does

I don't think beating his poor ass down and telling him to get his shit together is encouraging his attitude towards that.

>That this world revolves around him, and the rules don’t apply to him. He thinks he’s an RPG hero, and anything that helps him complete his own objective is fair-game.

Literally what "From Zero" was combating about Subaru as a whole. Because after that moment Subaru stopped thinking of the entire setting as a game to fill his needs, and instead became a man who instead filled other people's needs.
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>>150610458
Actually, here's the translated WN chapter, which is a much longer version of the scene. The LN may have shortened it, but I know for a fact that Roswaal still ordered Rem to let Subaru leave.

https://kagurojp.wordpress.com/2016/08/12/vol-3-ch-11-three-heads-are-better-than-one-for-sinister-schemes/
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>>150607788
As I said in >>150610358, I’m still practically anime-only. So a lot of this is fresh information.

Not sure what this whole “Crusch-like” thing you’re insisting on. I’ve read the chapter where Crusch gets her arm cut off and they two fight Greed/Gluttony. Are you referring to Rem’s admiration for Crusch in this scene?

You imply Emilia has attacked/killed Subaru. I assume this is post-anime?

>Actually no true, she is the very definition of a sheltered child.
Are you implying sheltered children have no identity? You don’t know many home-schooled people then. They’re some of the most interesting people I know. They didn’t learn how others expect them to behave, and are more “themselves” because of it.

> She wants to become king to fufill her contract with Roswaal to unfreeze her village.
New information to me. So then why did she suggest that she wants to bring about equality at the selection? Was she lying?

>Its actually quite the opposite, its her basically going "you don't really love me!" on Subaru,
No. Subaru wasn’t loving her, he was acting out of his own pride. Love requires restraint, and to be faithful. Emilia was right to tear into him.

>Emilia couldn't even bring herself to insult Subaru like Rem does all the time.
Because she can be critical without being petty. This is points in her favor.
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>>150610385
You totally mixed up what Rem means by "hero" there. She is not talking about him being a hero by some MC status designation, she is talking about how he was a hero when he saved her. In other words she is not feeding his delusion he is reasurring him saying that all what he did wasn't just self-satisfaction but there was an actual desire to help other people in him. That's why after the From Zero speech Subaru starts taking his new life in this world as something genuine and not a videogame where his self-satisfaction the only thing it matters.
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>>150610358
Except he has the mark of the beast which only cultists have. That's a lot more than being an ethnicity, that is some serious shit. Remember the cultists thought he was one of them at first. That's how exclusive a thing it is.
Ram not trusting him is why Rem attacks even. Ram got her to back off in the first and final loops because she trusted him but he was a tard in the second loop. Who wanted to repeat everything perfectly including holding back from work

>tried to repeat all the same flags, including being shit at his work
>despite waking up and freaking out
>Ram noticed and complained to Emilia who passed it on to Subaru
>somehow knew the entire layout of the mansion beforehand

So in that loop she told Rem and Roswaal to be on the look out because this guy was hiding shit and not to be trusted. Rem also noticed he was under some curse and "mercy" killed him but she was already on the side of he was up to some shit. Running towards Emilia's room at night didn't look good either, but he was panicked so I'll give him that.


Also Roswaal forced Rem to let him go. The source material makes this clear and we even have the aftermath of the scene from her perspective. She sided with Emilia here.
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>>150610634
>critical without being petty

She's not critical at all though. She couldn't think of criticisms. She's also very petty, that's like one of her obligatory flaws. I'm not saying that as my own interpretation that's like an established thing but the anime glossed over her tsun and childish pettiness. She was arguing against him going to the capital even though it was already decided he would go to see Ferris for treatments. Simply because she didn't want it to seem like he was having his way. It's cute but it means she's petty.
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>>150610634
>Are you implying sheltered children have no identity? You don’t know many home-schooled people then. They’re some of the most interesting people I know. They didn’t learn how others expect them to behave, and are more “themselves” because of it.

I'm going to ask you this, have you read anything that give Emilia personality? Is she interesting, because a number of people can agree with me that she isn't. She has no identity other than being the "pure" girl. That's the problem.

>So then why did she suggest that she wants to bring about equality at the selection? Was she lying?

Partially, its mostly her motivation to have demi-humans no longer antagonized by society, but though selfish ends. Did I also forget she wants to dismantle or reduce Lucigna's military for some reason?

>Because she can be critical without being petty. This is points in her favor.

Except she literally never has. She has never criticized or put any effective change into Subaru. Reading the post-anime with Subaru being more mature and smarter as well as facing hardship with his own strength was all attested to Rem, even him saying it was all because of Rem he became a better man. Also there was a time where Subaru said to Emilia "criticize me! insult me!" you know what Emilia did? She started doling out compliments to Subaru. Effective shutting her out because he wanted Emilia to act more like Rem and correct him.
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Alright, when thinking about the price using Invisible Providence takes from him, Subaru isn't exactly sure what it is. However he has two ideas about.

He thinks it's either his soul or his sanity that it's slowly cutting away.
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>>150610863
I think its his Odo to be honest

But sanity is more likely because of the little shoulder angels he has when unconscious.
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>>150610358
All the resources you need are here

http://pastebin.com/gWi7LURJ
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>>150604513
A cute oni and my waifu.
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>>150610898
Od is just life force, and is more of a lifespan thing. This seems a little different. Oh, and he's gotten better at using the hand than he used to be. It's actually a lot easier and more comfortable for him to use now, but that actually makes him a little worried.
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>>150610385
>Most criticism is for the source material itself.

Literally anybody and everybody who has read the source material says the exact opposite thing. If there are people who are bashing the source material they are either lying or have no idea at all what he is talking about.
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>>150611011
Yeah that's definitely going to get him imprisoned if he uses it on people other than the ones close to him.

Fuck me he's actually turning into an archbishop now.
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>>150611034
When there are source material critiques it's usually very different stuff too. Like the way Sanctuary works and how you could find workarounds which is probably why the LN tweaked it.
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>>150611011
I really hope that doesn't entail something bad. But knowing how this series is a heartwarming tragedy I'm prepared for the worst. He just wants to save his waifu, find out why he is there in the first place and help people for fuck sakes.
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>>150611011
>>150611212
If he perma dies in Rem's arms after waking her up im gonna flip my shit.
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>>150610340
>He is still memeflirting with Emilia

I get why he's doing it because of his "mask of determination" but holy shit Subaru you are better than this. You don't need to lower yourself like that.
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>>150611065
>Fuck me he's actually turning into an archbishop now.
I think he wants to avoid that, but he is using the hand more frequently and not always when he actually needs to. This is probably an actual plot point to look out for.

In other news, Ram says he has premature ejaculation.
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>>150604551
how does this differ to what translation chicken is working on?
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>>150604513
She's a cute blueberry.
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Decided to do a little type setting and here.

How many little girls keeping him company at once is enough to send him to jail on the spot?
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>>150611371
>Ram calling Subaru a premature ejaculator

Good to see Ram and Subaru are getting on good terms with each other again.
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>>150611435
I'd say one is enough but clearly he'll just accumulating them. I've noticed everybody that become main components later on in the story have been introduced really early. Even his adoptive daughters like Petra, Beatrice and Meili.
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>>150611435
Also did this one.

If i got this right, this may be a little before the first death in arc 6, where Shaula snipes everyone with her needles, so the wind howling may be her magic or something, and the bang being Ram being hit by the needles is my guess.
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>>150611408
Summary anon is far ahead of Chicken, sacrificing a little accuracy/proofreading/professionalism for speed. Comparisons between Anon's TLs and Chicken's show his work to be faithful to the original.
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>>150611435
The moment they start calling him "dad" or "father" or something akin to that is the moment he'll probably get thrown into jail.
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>>150611543
Thank you
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>>150611543
I'm actually looking into this right now. First death is getting sniped while fighting a giant flower bear.
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>>150611435
Lolimancer
Truly the most envious of all classes
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Is Subaru ever going to piss the clown off so badly that he starts making disgisting faces out of pure anger.
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>>150611630
Then maybe it's the desert storm that takes then near the tower?

Also, if anyone is interested. The guy who provides translations for these comics, is translating the segment where Subaru, Crusch and Julius first meet a gluttony Bishop, Roy Alphard.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TzB7mZb6sD1DuRZ7sqYurKV3L1XiQMDrkpBahbvcIOY/edit

>He’s named after a star…!

Subaru seems to be taking notice of the fact that all Bishops have names related to the stars. Julius also calls him "Little girl user" in this like in the comic >>150611435 so my guess is he got to see him spending time with the girls prior to arc 5.

He's still not finished translating btw, there's still a small segment left.
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>Subaru: “You don't have any fucking right to mock Petra!!”
>A small throwing knife jutting from his right shoulder—with a hooked point, which hinders its removal. Gritting his teeth at this thing biting into his flesh, Subaru unhesitatingly yanks it out.
>Violent pain dyes his vision stark red. He senses fatal damage to the whole of his right arm's functioning. But he ignores all the injury, pitching the removed throwing knife with Elsa as the target.
>He throws with his full power, but he lacks any training and the toss is sloppy.
>That it still soars straight fixed on Elsa is essentially a miracle. As is its speed. But when faced with a murderer possessing skill transcending human reason, Subaru's throw will come to not any effect.
>Elsa: “Good spirit, but this won't—”
>Subaru: “I'll wring out everything I've got! SHAMAC!!”
>Elsa: “—!?”
>In counter to an Elsa readied to defend, Subaru stresses his throat for his third Shamac.
>Scraping together his internal mana, already exhausted from the first and second casts, Subaru expels both his life force and his magic out his untrained gates.
>Blood shoots through his eyes, trails from his nose. The scream of his soul succeeds.
>Darkness spreads across the centre of the corridor, covering the space between Subaru and Elsa.
>The knife Subaru threw plummets into the dark. Flown into the dusk of confusion, piercing through its middle, the knife rushes for Elsa—its trajectory invisible to her.

BAD. ASS.
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>>150611768
Jesus the translations are everywhere. People are spoiling us today.
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>>150610340
>I'm not sure she even knows Anastasia is possessed by the Echidna spirit
I looked farther into it. Emilia knows Anastasia has the Echidna Spirit, but doesn't know she's possessed. Seems like everyone still keeps her out of the loop.
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Any drawbros here?
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>>150611543
Right. This scene never actually happens in the WN. I just checked.
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>>150612171
God dammit
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>>150612171
So it's just fan made stuff? That's disappointing.
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>>150612171
Thank you for correcting kind anon
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>>150611778
It will only get better anon.
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>>150608666
Why doesn't Subaru just get Witch Cultists to do what he wants? He could just start saying he's like Satella's number one fan or something.
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>>150612616
Because that would get Subaru lynched by everyone else
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>>150612616
Because they would believe him, and so would everyone else.
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>>150612616
They're pretty fragmented and each archbishop barely gets along so that would just cause infighting at best. Plus that's going to blacklist him with everyone else because he has a definite connection to motherfucking Satella. Satella might just pop his heart and have him loop for that.
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>>150604513
SECOND BEST
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>>150611768
Some things of impotance:

>(Note: The first ‘Gluttony’ is written using characters for overdrinking, while the second refers to overeating; I couldn’t think of a way to differentiate them nicely, so I just left them both as Gluttony.)

So Roy is over drinking, and Ley would be overeating right?

>(Note: The ‘us’ Gluttony uses to refer to himself alternates between 僕 (boku, the self-reference used by little boys and polite old men) and 俺 (ore, the self-reference used by manly men). Not sure if that’s significant, but I couldn’t find a way to translate it.)

Maybe referring to how the bishops of gluttony seem to be connected in some way, especially through the eclipse skill?

And now for Subaru rage moments.

>“We’re the Witch Cult archbishop, representing Gluttony, Roy Alphard.”

>“Gluttony---!!”

>The moment the boy said Gluttony, Subaru snapped his whip in the blink of an eye. The whip cut through the air, aimed to strike his enemy in the face as hard as he could. The result…

>“Well, we do end up eating a lot of resentment, at that.”

>Gluttony, who had caught the tip of the whip in his teeth, taunted Subaru with his reply.

>Subaru had struck immediately without holding anything back, and Gluttony had stopped it easily.

------

>“I’m a really good decoy; the fight with Sloth proved that.”

>“Wha!?”

>Aiming for the defenseless Subaru, Gluttony had lowered his own guard. Subaru, who was all too painfully aware of his own weakness, had sworn not to get ahead of himself no matter how angry he was. Biting his lip, using the pain to keep his self-control, he was trying to let the most powerful person here launch an attack.

He bites his own lip to feel pain just so he doesn't let himself be consumed in rage and fuck everything up.
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>>150610410
>>150610422
>>150610432
>>150610458
>>150610520
>>150610558
>>150610601
>>150610639
>>150610684
>>150610788
>>150610839
>>150610970
>>150611034

Thanks for all the thoughtful responses and advice. I clearly just need to read the source material. And I admit Rem is more excusable than the Anime makes her out to be.

Still think Emilia is a better person, though.
Maybe that will change with a proper readthrough.
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>>150612891
>Still think Emilia is a better person, though.
Emilia's thing is pretty much that she's kind, though she's kind of airheaded and naive. Rem, on the other hand, is legitimately an obsessive creep who watches Subaru sleep and touches his lips at night. I don't think anyone argues that Rem is the most morally upright girl out there.
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>>150612891
Well, Rem isn't an angel by any means. She's the closest character to Subaru in that world down to being a shut-in and her own worst obstacle and having a past full of envy and inferiority complex (for Subaru it's his dad instead of sister). It's that she became self-aware and the desire to improve herself and Subaru that makes her endearing and redeems her. She even realized she was being unreasonable with her feelings of jealousy at one point and kept it to herself.
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>>150612891
Emilia is a really good and kind girl, that´s a fact. An entirely different matter is how her character is handed in general and why should I care about a heroine that appears every now and then and does even less, which is the main criticism people have with her
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>>150613064
I don't think anyone here is under the false assumption of Rem being a perfect waifu moeblob.
From the ones that remain in these threads, I'm sure you can ask anyone and they'll say the same: Rem is utterly flawed but also very corageous, loyal and supportive.
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>>150613064
Not at all but that's what makes Rem fun and a good dynamic with Subaru. She is equally as flawed as Subaru and despite that, both of them use each other as a catalyst to becoming a better person, she saved him and he saves her. I like a relationships and romance dynamic like that, its rare. Then there are the vows they made to each other which touches the heart a little bit.
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>>150604513

best girl.
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>>150612891
Emilia will always be the kinder and better person. But a better character is something else entirely.
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>>150613185

>Rem isn't an angel by any means

Can confirm.
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>>150613309
Two-way relationships are the best relationships after-all
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>>150613309
Not to mention they can even princess carry each other. Rem can carry Subaru because she's strong and Subaru can carry Rem because she's light.
Is it any wonder people here tend to love their relationship when they complement each other so well?
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>>150613064
A creep indeed but a lovable one nonetheless
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>>150613514
hhhngg. this is some good stuff.
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>>150604644
>now

More like again
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>>150606056
What chapter is this?
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>>150614098
Chapter 31 I beleive
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>>150613514
Well, I never said otherwise.
>>150613443
Plus, their personalities are surprisingly doujin compatible. You don't have to warp their personalities past the point of recognition to see them fucking.
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>>150604513
Cute
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>>150611768

from the description, Alphard looks the same as the Ley, even having the same fighting style?
Are they twins or something?
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>>150604513
Stupid slutty ogre who is inferior to my wife in every conceivable way. She's constantly grinding on my possessions and stealing my used underwear. I often wake up and find her sitting on my crotch-area.
For proof, please refer to the offical Re:Zero OVA series- Jard-kun™!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC7aJHYePJ4&t=71s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_NmRuW6848&t=4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-ET8BGp87o&t=9s
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>>150614366
Maybe they are clones like the great mabeasts are
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>>150614147
Probably because they'd probably fuck given the time if they weren't constantly being cockblocked.
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>>150614408

This is something I haven't heard of yet...what are the beasts clones of?
I know Gluttony can make a new Hakugei, but is that implying there was an original one before it?
If so, finding out how the original snake was defeated might help them out later.
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So i used google translate on the first part of chapter 24 of arc 6, and it's apparently Subaru reading the book about Minerva.

If i got this right, apparently she was always crying, she cried and cried, because the world was always fighting, and always full of suffering. She shouted and begged for it all to stop, but it didn't change anything.

At some point she wanted the power to stop it, so she trained to the max she could, even overdoing it at times, and got the power, but then, the more she punched and the more she screamed at it all to stop, the more blood and more wounds she created, because even with the power to make people submit with your strength you're still making then suffer.

At some point she realizes a new feeling in herself, a feeling related to all her crying, they weren't tears of sadness, they were tears of anger, an anger born from her inability to stop all of this. One day apparently she jumped once again into a battefield and punched everyone, "smell the flowers, be happy, be with your family, stop fighting!", and suddenly, all the pain they felt was washed away, all the wounds they had vanished, and people stopped agonizing. They tried to thank the woman but she was no longer there.

She was already gone and was running off somewhere else, in her mind thinking "the world never stops suffering, i can't stop, there's no point in stopping, i must keep helping and find those to help" and she went along trying to make the world a better place, never once stopping, because she wanted the sorrow from the world to vanish completely.

--------

I wonder how aware she is about the side effects of her powers.
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>>150614532
Well they could be clones from Louis considering that Louis talk about birth/procreation or something all the time.
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>>150614532
It's not a "clone", the anon implied one may the clone of the other, but i doubt it, they may just look a lot like each other, or have similar fighting styles and mannerisms.

The Hakuei is not a clone of anything, it's a new creation, the bishops could make a new one, bu they'd need another 400 years according to Ley.
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>>150614567
Probably not very much since her power is capable of destroying cities, I'd be pretty noticeable if there were cities near her that suddenly turned into dust.
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>>150613514
It helps to tone down her creepiness that her target of affection reciprocates.
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>>150614408
Well, it's more that mabeasts can clone themselves. Really, the fact that they're able to jump into one another's bodies, and shapeshift them into their own, is kind of a big clue there.

My theory is that when Gluttony is bloated with too many names and memories, they reach a point where they "must give birth" and split a chunk off to become a new Gluttony Bishop.
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>>150614693
Eating so much that you asexually reproduce through mitosis?

That sounds possible.
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>>150614394
Nani?
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>>150614567
Why is Tappei making me like Witches? Witches should be dead and stay dead.
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>>150614776
It's not her fault anon, she just wanted to make the world a better place. The witch powers just have nasty side effects most of the time.
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Fat-chested sister of a Jester Molester.
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>>150614567
Too bad her limbs got torn off. She was such a bro even if she was a Witch.
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>>150614730
Oh yes. That's the word. I believe that after the Bishops ate a bunch of people at the city, Louis leaves and says that he has to go give birth. So maybe that's exactly what they do. Swallow a huge population and shit out another turd goblin.
>Inb4 the next one is a composite of Rem, Julius, Crusche, Joshua, and who knows who else.
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>>150614897
What are you talking about? You mean the part where she had pride remove her limbs because she refused to let Subaru kill himself? They're all already dead, and in a dream world, that means nothing.

Plus, i'm pretty sure she can heal herself.
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>>150604513
Describe THIS

*inserts penis into OP's mouth*
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>>150614916
I'd rather let that not happen. If it is something like that Subaru is in a race against time and he doesn't even know it.

>>150614927
He was probably talking about her death when she got maddened by a trap. Probably wanted to see more of her in the non-dream world.
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>>150614394
This shit is a parody, right? This guy can't be for real. I refuse to believe this.
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>>150615086
Of course its a parody
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>>150615109
Thank god. However I never understood where the fedora and leather jacket stuff came from. Is it perhaps a Hellsing thing?
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So apparently, after Subaru reads the book on Minerva, Subaru mentions it was a book about a witch, and says it was from the "nice one of the bunch", Emilia asks if he's referring to Sekmet.

Apparently Emilia talked to Echidna and Sekmet in the dream realm while doing the trials, but she didn't see any other witch aside from those two.

On another note, it seems that when reading the books, the one reading feels all of the feeling the person felt while the book shows their past, so he'd feel her sorrow and her anger. Not 100% sure on this one whoever, but it seems to imply that, or it meant to say that Subaru sympathized with her plight, and felt for her.
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>>150614983
>I'd rather let that not happen. If it is something like that Subaru is in a race against time and he doesn't even know it.
Ah come on, don't you want to see "To Zero" happen?
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Bros, you thought there are no angels?

Well, let me tell you something.

There is one.

http://sendvid.com/ht0p80ni
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>>150615426
I still wonder how Felix, a BOY, has thighs like that.
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>>150614581

Does'nt Louis look different though?
But they are weird anyway, 3 people sharing parts of an authority, or Louis splitting it's authority up by "giving birth" or something.

Regardless, I have the weird feeling Louis needs to be killed first, he might just spawn another Ley if Ley happens to get brutally slaughtered while screaming like a pig.
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>>150615461

Angels are not limited by human things.
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>>150615269
Also apparently, aside from having to do the monolith challenges, the other challenge is to find the set of stairs to the next floor.

Apparently they spend a while in the library, figuring that the stair set would be hidden by some sort of mechanism, with Subaru piggybacking Emilia in order to see if it was something in the ceiling or on top of the shelves of books.
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>>150615279
I'd rather not see Subaru break and all of his effort and love for Rem thrown into the dust like that. The man has been through hell and back for her already there has to be a happy ending for this series, there just has to be.
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I wanna see Subaru save Beako from hell already.
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>>150615461
Because he was locked in a basement for 9 years
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>>150615648
I don't see how that correlates anon.
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>>150615201

Standard attire for autistic fat neckbeards that wear katana's and teleport around, to be exact.

Always dropping a classy "m'lady" as well.
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>Subaru calls Shaula to ask something
>She gets all happy, saying "yes teacher!" and runs to him and tries for a hug
>Subaru dodges, and she wonders why he did it and he says that she was coming in at full speed, so it'd be a bad idea to accept such embrace
>She then asks if he'd let her hug him if she approached slowly

She's pretty cute.
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>>150615726
Ok, but what inspired this? Where did it come from? Was it a joke, was it some anime that they got this from or was it just a fashion trend?
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>>150615611
Fine then. We'll just have to settle for a kiss from Ley.
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>>150604513
CANT WAKE UP
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>150615641
Beakoposting time?
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>>150615870
You're either extremely new to the internet or you avoided all the right places.

Just google "Neckbeard" and you'll get some pages that explain it.
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>>150615834
Fugel has good taste in women.
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>>150615870
It's a fashion joke about neckbeards trying to look "classy". The fedora had a mini comeback with the hipster crowd and a noticeable amount of neckbeards bought trilbies or fedoras not realizing it's a shit look when you wear it with a T-shirt and cargo shorts. The meme of tipping fedoras to posts you don't like is basically an ad hom saying you're like those neckbeards.
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>>150615834
Do we know more about Fugel and why Shaula keeps mistaking him as Fugel?
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>>150615955
She was obviously his Rem. All the signs are there.
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>>150615999
Apparently because Subaru smells just like him, probably referring to his scent of the witch.

They saw a picture of him, and he looks nothing like Flugel, so much so even Julius would fit the bill better than Subaru.
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>>150615927
Beakoposting time.
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>>150616014
That just makes me sad as to where Fugel is. Shoula probably misses him a lot.
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>>150615952
Well, I never really got into the whole neckbeard thing I guess.

>>150615996
Thanks. But people using katanas and shit is also ironic or once again people making fun of that crowd?
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>>150616045
Post Beako, please.
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>>150616140
There's no new Beako stuff so.
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>>150615904

Kiss?
The turd goblin will be tortured while he screams like a pig and begs for death.
And even then the welcome embrace of death will be coming late enough for him to turn so insane he won't even notice it anymore.
The looks on his fellow bishops of gluttony's faces when they find his mutilated and desecrated corpse will be just the start of what the rest of them have coming for them if killing Ley did'nt wake Rem up.

I just want the good guys to make him suffer for a change
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I'm not sure if this is right, or if i got it wrong, google translate is much better, but still wonky as fuck.

Julius decides to ask Shaula if she'd know the location of the stairs to the second floor. She apparently remarks that aside from stairs above the fourth level, she does not know.

So basically, it seems Shaula never went above the 4th layer of the tower herself. She seems to know the names i'm guessing.
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>>150616335
You know for a sage who guarded the tower for 400 years you'd think she'd know by now.
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>>150616419
Well the tower is Flugel's creation, and either the stairs to the next floor are so hard to find, or she never went past a certain puzzle in the tower to go upwards.

Once again, i'm just checking with google, i get a gist of what's going on, but not the perfect picture. She mentions something about being there to protect it's secrets i think.
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Any friendly drawbros here?
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>>150616067
>Shoula probably misses him a lot.
She was clinging to Subaru's arm to the point where it was painful, because she thought he was Flugel due to his scent. Of course she misses him. Characters do sometimes serve as contrasts and parallels here, with how Roswaal was trying to make Subaru become just like himself.

In this case, the strongly loving and devoted girl, who recognizes the object of her affections by his scent, is easily compared to someone else. Of course, I'd hope Subaru would never leave Rem all on her own to guard some tower.
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>>150616598
She might be a little bonkers too, considering the spent 400 long years guarding the place, looking after a witch in a tower, in the middle of a desert, most likely without company for the most of it.

I wonder what keeps her alive for so long. Maybe she's some sort os spirit too?
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>>150616747
I'm pretty sure she's not a spirit, but her lifespan was probably extended somehow.
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>>150616903
Either way, she seems to have her mind set on upholding the rules, she even questions if she'd not feel bad for killing her "teacher" if he broke then. Mostly to do with the trials and not vandalizing the library i think.
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>>150616986
I guess. There will probably be an overview of her past some time in the tower.

Right now, I'm guessing the subjects of the Arc will fall under two different categories. Sage and Gluttony. Oni and Witch Beasts also seem to have gotten talked about a bit, but I think those will be folded under Gluttony.
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>>150617153
Why are you so sure there will be gluttony? I don't think anyone is retarded enough to approach the tower when Shaula can literally snipe people, and an entire garden of dangerous beasts prowls outside.
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>>150606056
>Subaru holds back his desire to touch her further

"I'm so fucked up" moment when?
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>yfw Ram-chi was best girl all along
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>>150617226
I didn't say Gluttony will show up. I'm saying the deepest lore shit that will be gone into will probably be about the Sage and everything related to Gluttony.
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>>150604513
cotato?
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>>150604513
taters
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Every thread until Rem wakes up.
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If not hot pants, what would you make her wear?
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>>150604513
Doormat.
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>>150618581
A sundress
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>>150617920
He has too many to count at this point
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Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.
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>>150605709
Subaru has been a dad always
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>>150617920
I wonder how many doujins of that sort we could have gotten if they had the right ending.
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>>150615641
Don't worry its soon
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>>150618883

>caring about the dictator
>caring about anyone but Rem

Fuck Crusch, fuck the clown, fuck Emilia. Subaru needs his blue waifu back and nothing else matters.
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>>150618980
Hey anon, I like Rem as much as you do but Crusch is based as fuck and Rem needs her as an representative as to what an independent woman looks like.
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>>150619006

I will never forgive Crusch or the jew after how they were utter assholes to Subaru in that bad timeline. He only managed to get both of them on board to kill the whale because he manipulated them with knowledge he got from the bad timeline. Crusch would have never helped if she didn't have something to gain of it. She's a cunt for that alone.

>People are going to die en-masse? Fuck that, I don't care unless I can profit from it.
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>>150604513
I just want Rem to realize Subaru a shit and get together with a cute girl
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>>150619118
To be honest having a raving madman who somehow knows about the Witch Cultists movements and wanting to kill is probably not a good idea to follow. She would help but being as unbelievable and shady as fuck Subaru naturally is you can't help but not distrust him, that is the reason why Crusch asked Rem if she ever considered him as being part of the Cult with Rem lying to Crusch's face as the seal.
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>>150619118
Not the guy you replied to, but i think her reasoning is that it was too suspicious for him to know that the cult was attacking, and there literally never a lead of then in any way, and he also can't explain himself. Even if she felt she was not lying due to the blessing she felt he was just so enraged he was delusional.
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>>150619239
>Rem lied when she asked if she ever felt suspicious of him and Crusch noticed due to blessing

I completely forgot about that part.
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I have no idea what is going on here
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Satella did nothing wrong.
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>>150619239

This is why Subaru needs to stop being a pussy and just fully abuse his resets:

>learn secrets or weaknesses of candidates
>use this info to blackmail or outright murder them
>repeat until he can get his shitty half-elf waifu to be the winner
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>>150619362
Yeah, that leads to a very bad end. That's basically the Echidna AU and you don't want that to happen.
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>>150619362
It's established that he is not confortable with dying, because no matter how much it happens he can't get used to the pain, and he loses all meaningful interactions, and they're all erased, and the future if reenacted would feel fake, and orchestrated.

He doesn't want to grow jaded, which is why he tries his best to care about every single loop.
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>>150619347

>made Subaru smell like a hooker took a shit on him
>won't let him vent about all the fucking resets and subsequently causes him massive mental trauma
>outright murdered Emilia in one loop because Subaru said "fuck it" and tried to spill the beans regardless of pain
>won't just outright tell Subaru what she wants him to do to expedite the process and simplify things
>probably just wants Subaru as a husbando and is so fucking awkward about it that she has to send him on a fucking quest to achieve this
>lets a bunch of freaky Jehovah's Witnesses run around with little black books and murder people

She did everything wrong. The only thing I want from her at this point is to drop a mindfuck bomb on everyone by showing them how they treated Subaru in all the bad timelines and how he put on a smile and helped them anyway.
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>>150619362
See that line of thinking will lead you straight to a Witch and Roswaal.
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>>150619451
Not basically the Echinda AU, that's literally the Echinda AU down to Emilia winning the king candidacy, blackmail and all.
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>>150619488
Actually Satella wants Subaru to kill her. The reason why yet, we don't know. But it probably has to do with Pandora.
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>>150619632
It could be passing of the torch as well, considering that there can be only one Satella at a time.
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>>150619632
Man Subaru's ultimate goal is helping someone with their shitty assisted suicide.
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>>150619488
As much as I want that we will probably not get it. Also yea Satella isn't really helpful.
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>>150619724
I guess? But there is clearly more to it than that.
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>>150615904
>Subaru kissing Ley

Let's not go there
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>>150619632
>>150619724

>implying Subaru will have the balls to kill Satella

He'll finally get to her, bloodied and having lost everything (with no resets to save him), and then he won't have the will to kill her.
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Reminder that Petra had probably been banged by Roswal by now.
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>>150619488
>saved Subaru from a dead-end life
>gives Subaru extra tries in a rough as hell world
>prevents others from abusing his gift that requires killing him to activate
>she let him save emilia from his mistake
>letting Subaru grow by making him figure things out. You don;t learn anything if you have the answer sheet
>wants subaru to kill her
>is largely unaffiliated with the Cult that's run more by Pandora than herself

Satella has done nothing wrong.
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>>150604513
ONE

HORN
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>>150620089
Anon, if Roswaal tries anything, he will lose Subaru, and thus his ticket to his favorite witch, not to mention that breaking the rules would also mean losing Ram, which he figured was the required person in order to reach Echidna.
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>>150620089
If Subaru comes back to his daughteru being defiled there is a whole load of pain coming Roswaal's way. Subaru nearly killed him twice. So its about damn time he finished the job.
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>>150620089

Roswaal likes eugenics.
Petra probably can't even have kids yet.
And even if she could, she's just a normal girl without anything to offer if she got a kid with him.

He wants Ram because she is an oni prodigy, and thus has great genes.
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>>150620089

>Petra has tasted hell through Roswaal-sama's big, thick, pulsating monster cock
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>>150607426
yes theres the part where you only point out negatives in the character you don't like and positives in the one you like and pretend your opinion is supreme
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>>150619987
Are you sure? This is the same man who burned a woman to death you know? Not to mention has actively strangled people.
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>>150620274
Calm down anon the argument is done and over with.

You really need to read the reply chain.
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>>150620296

He did have a reason for that.
But still, I don't see the harm in killing her.
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>>150619987
Well he had the balls to kill everyone else so I don't really see why Satella is so special. He even was willing to commit a double suicide with Rem so Elsa wouldn't touch her.

The man is balls to the wall crazy.
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>>150620296
The one who caused that was a Garf, and it was by complete accident. Oil spilled in the kitchen and caused a fire, all Subaru did was run around trying to get to Beatrice, until she finally let him in, and pushed Elsa against the fire.
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>>150619118
She gave her reasoning. Subaru's motivation was fucked up and she would be getting her people killed over the words of someone she considered insane.
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>>150620389
He already promised to save Satella though.

Satella has a double personality, and told Subaru to love himself, and not lose sight of valuing himself, so he doesn't waste many lives just to abuse his power and become jaded.

Satella seems to be the "good side", and the witch of envy, seems to be the evil side. The funny thing is, the Satella personality, is apparently the one who killed all the other witches.
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>>150620390
How the hell did he force Gaaf to participate in that? Aren't they enemies right now?
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>>150619913
Nah. You got it all backwards. I mean Ley kissing Subaru. Sweet and gentle, but still passionate. The other way around would just be disgusting.
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>>150620530
>all these rem doujins
>one doujin with subaru in a skirt
wut
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>>150620471
Sounds like the good side Satella is still pretty bad.
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>>150620584
>one doujin with subaru in a skirt
Two doujins with Subaru in a skirt.
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Bros, if Ferri X Crusch-sama doujins don't happen, I might cry.
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>>150620390
Actually wait don't tell me I wanna that chapter when it comes first
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>>150620649
but.... Why?
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>>150611371
It's just like my doujins!
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>>150620681
But Crusch loves Fourier
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>>150620710
Fujos actually like the series a fair bit, and with Subaru being popular his ass is a prime target. Now, the weird part is that Rem will show up in those, because Rem is popular even among fujos.
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>>150620725

Yes, but Fourier is dead and I want doujins about Crusch-sama X Ferri. I have never wanted vanilla doujins, but now I'm coveting them.
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>>150620813
Dead, just like Crush's memories.
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>>150620503
Final loop.
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>>150620132
There are fates worse than death, anon.
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>>150612879
>bites his lip
>Betel has bitten his fingers

Do you need some bloodletting to use invisible hand or something?
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>>150620710
Probably because he looks good when he crosdresses. It played off the prank Rem pulled a prank on Subaru and forced him to wear a maid outfit for a day.
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>>150620810
>Skipping the next part where Emilia invites her in and they start sucking his dick together
>Emilia only fucked Subaru because Rem kept fucking him and making her jealous and curious
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>>150612009
No drawings for you
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>>150620813
I don't think Crusch sees him that way. She is completely oblivious to feelings of love torwards her, and even then, Felix is more a "distance admirer" when he's not serving her.
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>>150620942

I really really want Crusch-sama caressing Ferri's ears.
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>>150620939
>fucks rem
>makes love to emilia
what don't you understand
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> 300 posts
> Not one mention of 'clingy'

Nobody likes a creeper.
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>>150620900
He wasn't trying to use the hands, he was trying to keep himself from jumping into gluttony and making a mess due to sheer anger.

He is really desperate to get Rem back.
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>>150620932
That was Ram's doing
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>>150620994

Ferri will get Crusch-sama. I won't accept this series ending without that happening.
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>>150620999
I don't know about you, but a clingy and extremely devoted girl, is just what i like.
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>>150621118
until she tries to kill you
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>>150621055
>After their bout of laughter, Ram and Rem continued to press home the point about Subaru’s sleepy-headed behavior. Maid Subaru listened to their criticism with a vein standing out on his head.

Sounds like it was both of them
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>>150620999
I feel like your post proved itself wrong.
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>>150621178
Well it was from a question they had between them about if Freddie's uniform would fit or not, but Ram's the one that tried hustling him into wearing it and brought it to him.
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>>150621062
I wouldn't expect too much on that front.
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>>150620725
>Fourier

He died too soon
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>>150621160
Strictly speaking of Rem, she would dare harm a single strand of his hair after she fell in love with him.
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>>150621248

I expect great things.
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>>150621118

Buy a dog. Knowing the setting, it'll probably even talk.
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>>150620896
Experiencing death, not just once but many times, is gruesome to be sure, but it's a far cry from the curse of true immortality.
In a world as dangerous as Lugunica, second chances for someone as unseasoned as Subaru are a priceless treasure that could be easily manipulated by others, and having to face the worst the world has to offer so frequently is a means to steel nerves in a way that disciplined training and experience would take many years to achieve.

So long as Subaru doesn't fundamentally break or discard his humanity/morals, RbD is something he should graciously accept, but sparingly use. So long as the option to restore what has been lost is available, Subaru seems to have a rock solid will.
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EX Volume Chapter 2 translation when?
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>>150621335
Anon, i'd rather have something i'd want to fuck, i'm not into bestiality.
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>>150621288
She would and has done so when Subaru is being stupid
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Who /EMT/ here?
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>>150604513
everything
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>>150621480

Don't do dramatic entrances like that
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>>150621344
The dude translating Ex 1 plans on translating EX 2 after that's done.
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>>150621480
Oh hello what are you doing here translator-kun?
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>>150621513

No, I meant EX 1 chapter 2
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>>150621465
Right, but she has good interests at heart, which are keeping him in line.
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>>150621475
Jard-kun
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So is the novel better than the anime?
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>>150604513
Demonic scum that needs to be destroyed.
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>>150621182

Hypocrisy is my character flaw, but at least I speak from experience.
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Wintry finished translating a segment of arc 5, which is Subaru, Julius and Crusch Vs Roy Alphard

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TzB7mZb6sD1DuRZ7sqYurKV3L1XiQMDrkpBahbvcIOY/edit

And Chapter 110 of the WN, basically Subaru giving Emilia a "From zero" talk:

Part 1
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rg5BCV6CZBxxif46IJVtsoEmKEP2P0roKMnAaVc5VLY/edit

Part 2
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lY1Sehn7sxMctxn7LOrdGvo7wlbl0bRb6Dqas9RUacM/edit
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>>150621575
Read the newest chapter and find out yourself anon.
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>>150621271
why is that sexy cat always so happy
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>>150621703
To hide his crippling depression and sadness over everything that's happened.
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>>150621703

Because to be with Crusch-sama and Fourier-sama is the greatest thing that Ferri knows.

That's why.
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>>150621475
I
Prefer
Rem
Thanks
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>>150604513
Comato. Potama. Coma potato. Potato coma. Try and stop me, shitflinger.
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Bros that may have filters, it's safe to take them off now.
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>>150621924
Anon, you can't stop autismos who filter shit from stopping.
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>>150621924
How the fuck did catfag bypass my filter still
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>>150622000

You're making me sad here.
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>>150621924
>safe to take them off
>still pronoucing posting that 'want to caress Ferri' phrase
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>>150622159
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>>150609485
>The series has no character development
They said
>The deaths don't even carry over or mean anything
They continued

WHY DID ALL THE CRITICS HAVE TO BE WRONG?!
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>>150622159

I... I didn't ever believe I would say this but.. I don't want to be your fucking bro holy shit.

>>150622191

What's wrong with the phrase?

>>150622232

Yes, it's safe to take them off.
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What is happening with Reinhard and Wilhelm?
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I kinda hope Subaru gets to meet his parents again, or finds a way to travel to earth and back.

If time moves at normal speed for both sides they must be worried sick.
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>>150622357
Or happy their NEET son finally just up and left
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>>150622404
Have you read the chapters that explain his past? They were awesome parents who cared for him a lot.

And he wasn't really a NEET, he stopped attention school only recently.
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>>150622159
>>150622232
>>150622428
Can you faggots stop derailing the goddamn thread? I swear you're trying to be more annoying than how the Catfaggot was being in past threads.
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I feel like these people with filters are extremely sensitive and easy to offend.
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>>150622440
i actually haven't kept up. Was thinking about it.
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>>150621475
Here
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>>150622527
Not really I can understand why they have them up. The Ferris guy used to be annoying as fuck. He used to spam alot.
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>>150622847
You say "used to be" but he's still here being a shit.
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>>150622847
The guy who has filtered Ferris won't be able to see your post, kek.
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>>150622905

My bro, I promised to stop spamming Ferri and become a better poster. I don't think I have posted anything shit here that would anger anyone.
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>>150623006
>becoming a better poster
>>150620233
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>>150623084

Now you are just targeting every post you dislike a little.
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>>150607788
Could Subaru be developing into Pride?
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>>150623084
Well he did become a better poster to be honest. Loosen your butthole a little.
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>>150623159
Its much worse than pride anon
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>>150623133
It's painfully obvious that's you, the only thing that would have made it moreso is if you used "shitra"
Just put on a trip so we can clean out our filters.
>>150623175
His posting habits haven't changed in the slightest though, people just respond to him less. Admittedly, I shouldn't even be trying to have this conversation and just ignore him.
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>>150621475
Why is she so perfect bros?
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>>150623277
Because she put a spell on you?
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>>150621248
Short hair superior.
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>>150623159
Nah its something worse now
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>>150621729
He has to fight back the depression every night. Good thing he can heal his liver whenever he needs to.
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Don't get attached to any of these characters they are all screwed.
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>>150623209
>>150623389
What's worse than an Archbishop?
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>>150623243

Yes, it is me. I didn't deny it. Why should I?

>His posting habits haven't changed in the slightest though

Yes they have. I'm not spamming Ferri.
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Can someone explain to me why this bad show is popular?
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>>150623596
Pope I guess
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>>150623650
I thought it would be more like Satella's personal cock toy.....
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>>150623648
Maybe you should brush up.
http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/
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>>150623596
Witch I guess?

Witch of what? All the deadly sins in use.

Witch of foolishness? Witch of being stupid? Stupidity is pretty deadly.
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>>150623648
Because you posted the wrong character. Plus that's not what she said in the source material, the adaptation really shafted the introductions of the candidates.
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>>150623648
Because it's not
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>>150623696
So anon, what now?
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>>150623710
She stuttered so hard due to being nervous she didn't get to finish her sentence right?
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>>150623769
Are you retarded? Clearly that is an opinion.
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>>150623799
Close actually. Eventually when she does give a speech its more along the lines of 'I have as much right to be here as the others, so don't look down on me because I'm a half-elf' Any sort of equal rights thing doesn't really factor that much into it and she repeatedly says her motivation for the selection is selfish.
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I feel so much out of the loop...
I binged on Re:Zero, and was already resigned that I won't be able to know how it continues for a loong long time, since I don't speak japanese I would have to wait for the official releases.

Then to take my mind of it I visit /a/ to perhaps find another series to pick up, enter the thread of re:zero on a whim, and I see some of you have the newest fantranslations.

I understand why people loathe newfags for asking, but apparently I myself have to be an ass this time.

Could someone be so kind and link me to these translations?
The few links here are from singular chapters, and not from where I need to continue.
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>>150623596
Cardinal? Pope? Dark Lord?

Something definitely worse than the title or archbishop though.
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>>150623713
>shit MC
>MC likes a shit
>basically every single character is bullshit
>death is meaningless
>mental trauma is meaningless
>love is meaningless
>Retarded story

Hey at least the characters look cute riiggghttt
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>>150623844
She only really explains that her reasons for the selection are selfish to Subaru.
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>>150623932
Bait.
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>>150623703
>7 deadly sins are in use
Then we go deeper.
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>>150623863
https://mega.nz/#F!VNdzDYYK!nK9fNU3LeprlZSbRAnlsRg
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>>150623975
Truth
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>>150623863
>>150610970
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>>150623987
Are you an idiot?
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>>150623648
waifubait
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>>150623967
But she doesn't lie to others about it, which is why she doesn't have some lofty speech in other media, because she knows why she's there.
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>>150623932
>MC is shit on purpose because he's supposed to realize he's not super special and gets taken down a peg
>This one is true
>I don't get where you're coming from with this one, go read a SEO work if you want bullshit
>Maybe for you, but not for Subaru since
>Mental trauma persists through the story, you think it's easy to brush off, and you become jaded master 5000 like your favorite mangoo about power abuse?
>I'm sorry you feel that way
>Probably doesn't even remember the overall theme and hints being thrown around

Admittedly, they did skip out on a few important things, like the proper ending of arc 3 where Rem goes coma on the way back due to Bishops attacking, the fact that Subaru isn't the only guy from earth in that world since Al is also from there, and some other things.

Either way, just know that i disagree completely and will make sure to disregard your opinion, because it's the right thing to do.
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>>150621475
Here!

...oh, you mean the fake EMT.
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>>150624014
Are you?

>Dude links you the mega filled with translated chapters of arc 4, which is post anime
>Calls him an idiot

You know, this is why people don't like to link shit to shit on 4chan.
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>>150624014
>could you link me to fan translations?
>link translations

I suppose I could link these to
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>>150624276
HAHA, NOW I AM AN IDIOT!
too*

https://translationchicken.com/2016/09/12/rezero-arc-3-interlude-ii-lets-eat-12/

https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/
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>>150624164
Rem isn't a shit
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>>150624324
He was clearly talking about Emilia though.
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>>150624164
>MC is shit on purpose
And they he flips a switch on the 18th episode and suddenly he isn't shit! Because that's how real people work!

>Maybe for you
Um anon. If the main character literally fucking decides to SUICIDE for the time travel cheat, you can bet your retarded ass death is meaningless. You can watch Rem's body get twisted and raped by a maniac, then the next episode everything is okay again.


>Mental trauma persists through the story
Uhh no it fucking doesn't. When the story needs Subashit to be sane, it will ignore all the mental trauma and make him sane again for the sake of continuing the plot. Don't bullshit your way out of this. You KNOW that after episode 17 that faggot should have been mentally dead.

>I'm sorry you feel that way
Rem loves Subashit. Doesn't matter because Subashit will come back to life. It indirectly makes her love mean fuck all. She will essentially always be in the state of loving him because of the death cheat. So sorry, but love is meaningless.
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>>150624261
He needs to read the Arc 3 interludes first.
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>>150620471
who are they in this pic?
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>>150624311
>>150623987
>>150624005

Thank all of you for putting up with my retardness and helping me.
Now if you will excuse me, I have got a lot of reading to do!
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>>150624399
>And they he flips a switch on the 18th episode and suddenly he isn't shit! Because that's how real people work!

Not him but there was actually a time-skip during this. Plus Subaru is still a shit. But at least he is a shit that is trying to better himself. If you can't clearly tell from the recent chapters.
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>>150624479
I'd probably recommend reading the Chicken's Arc 4 chapters before jumping to Mega. Not that it matters much.
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>>150624399
>She will essentially always be in the state of loving him because of the death cheat.
Hard for her to love him as a potato, but I guess Ley could always fill that role for her.
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>>150624399
>then the next episode everything is okay again.

So basically "I didn't pay attention and never looked at MC's face and eyes".
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>>150624399
What are you talking about anon? Rem is basically dead right now. Subaru got fucked over by his own power because Satella is a bitch and controls where the checkpoints are.
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>>150624399
He was breaking down before Rem offered to help and be there for him, the entire point was that he thought nobody gave a damn about him, and Rem showed that she does care, and drove him to not give up. You know it's still fiction, so of course you're not going to expect it's going to be 100% true to reality. What? Do you want the story of every single thing ever to never progress? He only didn't completely break down, because he decided to try again, and make full use of what he learned, and he also realized to stop acting bashfully and expect everything is gonna fall into his lap like he's some MC in a video game.

Maybe if you feel like it's all a game, and that all the interactions and happenings meant nothing to do you because you're jaded as fuck already yeah, but the point is that it's not nice to remember all the interactions you got to accumulate and then see it all wasted. True, he doesn't get to die, but when you get to repeat something, it just feels fake and orchestrated.

Read further, dude is not clear from mental distress, and you can clearly see that from as early as him being nervous about facing the whale despite being way more ready.

I dont really get what you meant from that one, but Rem does love him unconditionally. The best part is Subaru does too, bu the anime skipped that shit because reasons, and now they made anime onlys thing he cucked her. Which even as a fact, changes nothing because Rem is now in a coma, and Subaru strangles a bitch if they talk shit about her.
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>>150624399
>Implying he basically isn't a broken man during arc 4+
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>>150624656
Yeah, I will read the interlude to arc 3 first, then work my way up from there.
But that I will be able to do on my own now, thanks to all of you!
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Man reading this thread made me realize how warped some parts of Re:Zero has become by Remfags. Especially when comes to embellishing things about her character to make seem deep than she is and other misinformation. Oh well.
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>>150624432
Fanart of the witches of sin.

Pic related is the official design for Gluttony. We're still getting more official designs though.
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>>150624691

>lol the eyes anon
>LOL
>the EYES
>see he is mentally trauma
>because the eyes


>>150624787
>>150624738
Im not reading into this retarded story any further fags
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>>150624862
Rem is the ultimate in waifubait technology. She can not be stopped. You must succumb.
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>>150624880
k
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>>150624880
Well to each of their own then. I don't understand what makes you so mad about this series in the first place considering everybody unanimously called the anime adaptation shit.
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>>150624862
I don't see you providing any proof otherwise anon boy.
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>>150618790
The right answer
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The next translation can't come soon enough. We need to get rid of these trolls and retards
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>>150624862
I'm sorry but where is your evidence to support your claim? We've provided ours so why not do the same?
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>>150625052
You're on 4chan though, you can't get rid of then. So just develop a thicker skin.
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>>150604513
cuckold waifubait vegetable
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>>150625052
You must be new here
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>>150625052
>Lemon will never team up with Summaryanon to plow through arcs 4 and 5
FUCK
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>>150624864
I'm surprised Daphne isn't straight up naked, the clothes sometimes would make her sweat, which would burn more calories
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>>150625123

Remonwater really should do this.
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>>150621480
Hello
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>>150621563
Ohayo
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>>150625164
Not enough Rem
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>>150624864
They really made this cannibal lewd as fuck
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>>150624948
>>150625065

You've already provided them yourselves. Rem has her moments but she isn't nearly as perverted you make out to be nor does she insult Subaru as much of some you claim. Even if she did those things it wouldn't make her a deeper character. You also read more into her conversations with Subaru then what is there. Some of you are even creating your own narrative that Subaru was in love with her during Arc 2 and he didn't know it. I don't know of any source reader who interpreted things that way. But in end it doesn't really matter because by exaggerating things and making up others you're creating a false premises that author never intended. It's only gonna lead to disappointment when doesn't pan since your view is actually at odds with parts of story.

For that matter she's no longer the most developed character after Subaru, Arc 3 was ended a long time again and she has been pasted by Emilia, Wilhelm, Garfiel Otto and other characters who had backstories and developments furthered. Doesn't make her a bad character or anything but she is pretty overrated at this point. Too much has happened without her involvement so can't be helped.
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>>150625837
And Betty too.
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Won't you go hug him? That cultist seems pretty sad, i think he might not have killed anybody a whole week.
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>>150611647
Very.
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>>150625837
Man, going all out with being wrong are you? He literally has to avoid her in order to not fall for her. He specifically has moments to not try and encourage her because she is weaseling her way into his heart. Everything past the dogs sells this point. He obviously thought she was cute before and has to try and ultimately fail to not fall for her in return.

Also, your list of developed characters is a joke. Otto is cool, but we know shit all about him and Emilia's development is a laugh. You are confusing knowing circumstances behind a character with a character actually being developed or developing as a character.
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>>150604513
I love Emilia
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Subaru going Dark Lord mode when? Just give me a bad loop where he brutally murders everyone and then realizes that he's made a terrible mistake, commits suicide, and makes sure to never lose control ever again.
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>>150604543
underrated.
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>>150625897
>I AM A MEMBER OF THE WITCHES CULT!
Pretty sure this is what a real member of the cult looks like.
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>>150625837
I mean, some people go overboard yeah, but we're not saying she insults him, it's more like she low key points out his flaws instead of just being overly sugary with him, or straight up lying about it, like when he asked if she thought he was pathetic.

Also, it "adds to her character", nobody is saying shit about her being deep, where the hell are you getting that? It shows her flaws, and shows that she's not the perfect waifu everyon thinks. Also how is she not mischievous and possibly perverted? She tried to basically roofie him with the nut that makes people more "honest", she freaking watches him sleep, and she touches his lips too, if that's not signs of possible perversion i don't know what is.

Also people aren't making shit up, if you read, you could realize that there are some parts where people seem to notice Subaru trying to without the fact he does feel something from her, or moments where he slips up. It's not THAT strong, but like, when he does his headpat sessions with Rem, and loses himself in it, or trying to ignore the fact he likes her post episode 18, but then having to come clean under the tree, and later after the whale fight. Some go for a bit of a stretch, but otherwise it's mostly people thinking "i wonder if he did feel for her at X point".

Also, i didn't know you were good friends with the author to know "what he intended", i sure would love to know more.

Don't take every single goddamn thing to face value, a lot of people like to be over imaginative, but most of the stuff you're referring to is reasonable at best.
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>>150626048

Wrong Emilia!
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Can they still become bros?
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>>150626205
Pretty sure he started liking Rem around arc 2 during the may bath incident, but that could be just me since "feelings" for her could mean anything.

>Though Subaru himself allowed it, the weight with which Rem leans on him is immense and crushing.
>After keeping to herself for so long, Rem was like an explosion. Subaru just hopes that, like an explosion, her extreme forwardness will be a brief phase. If this goes on for much longer, with his body still recovering, he’d stand no chance.
>Be that as it may, Subaru can’t just bluntly shake Rem off, especially since his feelings for her have started to bloom.
>“....That child’s stubborn inferiority complex is dyed straight into the wool. It must be from our childhood, when Ram was a bit too much of a prodigy.”
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>>150626205
Yep, Rem certainly isn't perverted. Obsessively watching everything he does, sneaking into his room at night to watch him sleep, sniffing him, trying to drug him for later, touching him while he's asleep, pulling him into her boobs, manipulating him into giving her headpats all the time, using the time when he's unconscious to give him lap pillows, and contemplating kidnapping him and running away are all perfectly normal, healthy, non-pervert things to do.

Just like everything Subaru x Rem is vanilla, clearly nothing Rem does could ever be considered pervy.
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>>150626414
If he doesn't try to pull another "let's remove our alliance" bullshit again, yeah.

Also they didn't leave on bad terms, Subaru understood where he was coming from, but it was still a bad move on his part, especially since it basically broke what Crusch wanted, even if she doesn't remember anymore. He was basically just looking out for his own interests, and fuck the fact you helped us immensely.
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>>150626048
Why is Rem sad about Emilia cucking Subaru with some other guy? Is she sad for Subaru's sake because she knows how much that will hurt him?
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>>150626515
Ain't that the MC from hundred?
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>>150626498

>Also they didn't leave on bad terms

What about after Arc 5?
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>>150626600
I don't know about that one, but Subaru sucked the cursed blood from her, and she willingly tried to help, so it's not like Subaru forced her to join.

He was more angry at the bishop, apparently wanting to torture information out of then with his water magic.
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>>150625891
>And Betty too

I'm sorry? What is wrong with Betty?
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>>150626600
Subaru helped them out, so I don't think they left on too terrible of terms, but I don't know the exact situation. Ferris could easily blame Emilia for the MC attacking again, which put them all in danger and got Crusch some AIDS
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>>150626695
Nothing, he was putting Betty in the list of characters he thinks have more development than Rem.
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>>150626515

Rem's new crush and yet she's still cucked by another Emilia.
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Is Tappei a hack? How would Tappei become a hack?
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>>150604541
Fuck you. Delete.
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Is the show actually worth finishing? I got up to episode 14 and was about to drop it when someone said "episodes 15-17 are amazing!" so I watched them and was about to drop it again when I was told "episode 18 is a deconstruction of the genre!"
I just watched it and I really don't give a fuck about this series anymore, especially since I've heard the ending is just setting up for a S2 anyway
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>>150626819
>How would Tappei become a hack?
Ram pity sex
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>>150626897

Drop it and go away.
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>>150626897
If you didn't like it so far, you're not going to like it all later.
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>>150626739
Well yeah, Rem is in a coma. What does everyone expect? You aren't going to see more character developments with a girl that's basically dead right now.

But is she was pasted over by other characters then there would be no reason to have the focus be Rem for arc 6. As well as put her in a coma.

Though I don't really see how being as flawed as Subaru counts as character development of any kind, rather than a character trait.
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>>150626897
Third arc sucks tbqh family. Felt like a drag midway through. I felt the format of the show works better on a shorter scale like the first two arcs.
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>>150626205
I don't think Rem lied to Subaru thinking he was pathetic anon. Pretty sure she genuinely thought she was pathetic.
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>>150626897
>I've heard the ending is just setting up for a S2 anyway
I thought the opposite happened and the message that go across was more like "WAT TO KNOW MORE? READ THE LN FAGGOT"
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>>150627016
Third arc is actually massively superior, but this is only in the novels. The anime was a fuck up.
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>>150625837
>It's only gonna lead to disappointment when doesn't pan since your view is actually at odds with parts of story.

I'm sorry what parts of the story exactly?
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>>150627036
I worded that wrong i meant to say that she doesn't even lie about it, and is completely straight about it.
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>>150626963
I don't think theres an exact definition for what people mean when they say character development anyway, let alone a metric. Like, what do you even mean with 'more' development and what metric judges that? Different sides to their personality? Backstory getting revealed? How complicated does a backstory need to be before its better or worse than another one? Do only positive developments count? Etc.

You can pretty easily say that some characters aren't developed, but anything involving the characters that have had some level of focus is going to come down to opinion and a nit-picky bitchfest.
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>>150627128
Obviously the parts where people claim Subaru loves Rem. He clearly doesn't, Tappei agreed, don't bother him about it.
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>>150626963
The most "development" we see from Rem is how she starts to come out of her insecure little shell thanks to Subaru. Literally the whole point of her "From Zero" speech. If you don't consider the fleshing out of flaws and traits as development, and don't see a character change over time as development, I don't know what to tell you.

That said, and talking only up to where Summyanon has translated, we don't see any such character changed from any characters that I can think of. Emilia was and is a naive and sheltered child, Ram is still a snarky onee-sama with a superiority complex, Betty is still a tsun child, Otto is still the bro-est character around, etc. Subaru and Rem are the only characters to have traits that are changed or improved.
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>>150627220
Spfag go and stay go. Take the cat with you.
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>>150627287
I think he was being ironic anon.
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>>150625837
She insults and criticizes him a number of times, though those changed from deadpan insults to sweetly spoken deadpan insults.
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>>150618400
doing god's work son.
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>>150625837
>Rem isn't pervy

Have you not read the "King" chapter?
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>>150621475
kill yourself
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>>150627547
Also won't let him meme too hard. She's the one that slaps him for pulling a spoon on Crusch.
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>>150626205
You also forgot faked her death to get Subaru to confess his feelings.
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>>150627739
Oh yes. She actually wanted to be the one to take off her panties, didn't she?
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>>150627947
>"trying to ignore the fact he likes her post episode 18, but then having to come clean under the tree, and later after the whale fight"

I just wasn't specific anon, pay attention.
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This chapter took a stupidly long time for how short it is.
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>>150628758
Why's that, lot of wordplay and stuff?
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>>150628758
Thanks anon.
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>>150628758
You a best. A BEST
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>>150628758
Thinking back on it I might have made this chapter saucier than intended with the word 'embrace'.
Pretend it's 'in her arms'.
The rest of all the purple can stay there though.
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>>150628758
Whelp, she's off her rocker.
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>>150628758
Well shit, Emilia went completely crazy.
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>>150628758
Thanks
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>>150628758
>Subaru: “E-Emilia...?”
>Emilia: “I said it's all ok, Subaru. You left me a letter, and you wrote so much, so much, sooo much in it all for me. I was lonely, and I did think about crying... but, with all the times I read that letter...”

THIS IS OUR PROOF BOYS
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>>150629185
Well shit. Subaru and Rem really are the blue ogres of the story.

Emilia sacrificing them to befriend the humans wen?
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>>150628758
So I guessed she failed the third trial or something. Because I've never heard about Subaru writing a letter.
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>>150629185
You guys compare that analogy a lot, but i feel it wasn't supposed to be this much of a "pottery" moment.
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>>150629321
Before Subaru left for the mansion this loop, he wrote a letter for Emilia.
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>>150629321
She failed the first trial, which is the trial of the past, she didn't even get to reach the second or the third one.

Also pay attention because he did write one.
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>>150629347
Eh, I'll take what I can get. If its similar and fuels anything people speculated about in the past then I'm all for it.
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>>150629431
Still too much of a stretch. A letter left in order to reassure Emilia, is not really on the same vein as something like "he'll sacrifice everything for her" deal.

His idea was to come back anyways.
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>>150628758
Looks like we are getting a glimpse of the Echidna AU Emilia
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>>150629543
Well better luck next time I guess, there are always more theories and speculations that can still come true. Though I'll just keep this one in check just in case it actually does happen.
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>>150629543
But the letter left by the blue oni was also supposed to be at least somewhat reassuring. It basically said 'Have fun with your new friends, I won't mess it up for you so I'm leaving because we are super best pals'
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>>150626044
Personally, I try to avoid looking too deeply into things. However, I do agree that he didn't only start having feelings for her after From Zero, though I'm not exactly sure how I'd chart out the progress. In the beginning, his feelings towards both Oni were much the same. Some times, he actually liked Ram more. He first saw them as attractive strangers, and then they became friendly coworkers. He grew closer to both after the dog incident, but his feelings and thoughts about them had clearly diverged. Ram and Rem were now in entirely separate emotional categories.

I'm not exactly sure what his feelings were at that point. He definitely liked the attention he was getting and liked helping her, but that's not really the focus here. What's clear enough is that he's much more attracted to Rem than Ram. When he's planning to get the girls drunk, the only ones he thinks of are Emilia and Rem. Something the clown also guesses correctly. There are a few other little things, like how he often got distracted by Rem even when he was with Emilia, so I'd say Rem was already a little past the point of "GOOD FRIENDS".

He was seriously considering marrying her by the point right before From Zero, even if that was largely motivated by a desire to escape his circumstances at the time. I'd mark this as the point where he dropped his guard and started consciously considering the idea of a relationship with her. After From Zero... Well, you know what happens there. After his feelings settle a bit, and he thinks about it a little, it's clear he's fully in love with her.
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>>150628758
WOW FUCK ME I MISSED A WHOLE LINE DURING THE CRAZY RANT
Hold on let me fix this
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>>150631254
Was it a good one?
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>>150631298
The entire crazy rant is great
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>>150631254
https://mega.nz/#!wEUWnbQC!hM-5Vbe4EVXEvlX7Zms9F6J_1vqIMPpw8S6AiDidqr4
there
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>>150631596
Why do I keep feeling like she's going to start chewing on him or something?
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>>150604513
Best girl. It's that simple.
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