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So Ireneverse takes place in the same universe as SBR
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>>150595184
How's a little kid supposed to get across America and get to some shitty little town in Japan?
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>>150595241
An airplane?
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Part 5 was shit
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Do you think Araki will ever learn to draw a dog?
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Which villain posed the biggest threat to the world?
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>>150595648
He mutilates so many of them only because it makes them easier to draw
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>>150595875
Pucci
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>>150595648
If he hasn't by now, he never will.
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>>150595875

Dio and Kars threatened the safety of the world.

Pucci and Valentine would have altered the world's order, but were largely less destructive in their aims.

Diavolo's initial aims were probably largely harmless, but if he had won at the end and gained a "King Crimson Requiem", who knows what that kind of power might've inspired him to do.

Kira is by far the least threatening, being someone who intentionally keeps to a lowkey municipal level for his own indulgence.
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>>150595875
Pucci
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>>150595184
Couldn't be, Kira combines aspects of Kira and Jotaro.
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new to JoJo here just started the watching the Anime about 3 weeks ago. im currently on episode 22. of diamond is unbreakable (DIU).

My questions is...
>Is josuke from DIU the same as the sailor from the manga strip on op's post?
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>>150596111
Yes.
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>>150596111
>DIU

Its DU
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>>150596111
Read the manga
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>>150595184
Is that supposed to be Emporio?
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>>150596163
Where should i pick up after *DU?
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>>150596245
Part 5: Golden Wind
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>>150596245
I started reading with DU. I would recommend reading the manga start to finish but, for convenience sake, start with part 5 after you finish watching part 4.
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>>150595184
>Araki actually bothered to draw Gappy's pupils correctly
Holy shit
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>>150596111
>>150596146
>>150596245
>DiU
>DU
>Not DiNC
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>not DwK
fucking normies
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>>150595184
>>150595114
Isn't it a thing that "Stand users attract other Stand users" already?

>>150595296
>the offspring of gay couples

Who?
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>>150596514
>Not DUwang
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*breathe in*
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What was his fucking problem?
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>>150596599
It's a joke about Gappy basically being Kira and Josefumi's accidental buttbaby.
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>>150595184
Sure thing kid, because a group of autists over the internet say so.
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>he actually thinks part 5 will get an anime adaptation
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If Gappy had sex the maid of the Higasgikatas', would it be incest?
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>>150596742
Technically I guess, Gappy has Kira's balls
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>>150596677
played too many video games which inspired him to commit violent acts
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If a man used Josefumi's grafted Rokakaka to fuse with a girl, could he impregnate himself?
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>>150595648
CATCH THE DOG! HURRY!
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>>150597027
Wouldn't the excesses of estrogen and testosterone (as well as the mixup of the required organs) be likely to cancel each other out and lead to infertility?

That seems to be what happens with intersex people, 'true' hermaphrodites (penis + vagina + ovaries) are always infertile.
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>>150596677
He wanted DIO's D too bad that it led him to his own death. Vampirism kills buddy.
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>>150596742
Hes technically her half brother so yeah
Incest
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>>150596146
DUwang
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>>150595648
I thought that dog was intentionally weird looking?
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>>150595648
Humanity hadn't domesticated dogs back when he was growing up, so he's not used to them.
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>>150595875
Kars or Pucci
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Dio and Kira vs the good guys from part 4, after shigechi death, who would win?

And i don't mean simply the Josuke,Jotaro,Koichi,Oku and Rohan, i also include the alien and that dude with the life drain stand, highway something
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What are the odds of DP adding a scene where Jotaro looks at a photo of Jolyne or something?
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>>150596111
read the manga
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>>150597831
The heroes
Villains always lose
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>>150597926
What's the point, he's an autist that doesn't understand normal human behaviour
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>>150596111
Okuyasu dies.
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>>150597926
He might have a photo of her next to the crusaders one he looks at in the beginning of part 5.
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>>150598234
what's with joseph and the car in the lake?
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>>150598356

that is some weird bullshit in part in 5, and Joseph goes fulls emo on part 4 and cuts his wrists
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>>150598356
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>>150598224
The point is to endear audiences to the idea of Jotaro's cute daughter before the big reveal in part 6 where she's a proper slag.
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>>150595875
Kars. Probably would have ravaged the world since that was M.O. as a Pillar Man. DIO would definitely not have as destructive intentions.

Pucci is a meme answer. I don't like gay priest but his endgame was something that would benefit humanity save for the few people he had to kill to achieve it.
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Why is Echo's Act 3 so much worse than 2?
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>>150598958
Because act 3 confused readers so Araki didn't expand on it.
>>150598663
Pucci would be the worst because his intentions are world changing by design. You can argue the result wouldn't be destructive but there is no way to know what global precognition would do to the human psyche. Imagine finding out you will be a loser your entire life, your greatest joys are already spoiled to you so you have little to look forward to and your death will be sad and alone.
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>>150598234
>that part 1 Dio's castle in the very back
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>>150596245
I don't know...maybe part fucking five?

That is how numbers work. Unless you're some plebian part skipper who picked it up at 4 then part one.
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>again a thread where part 7 tards have to shit on part 5.

GO BACK TO /POL/.
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>>150600099
NAREFF
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>>150600114
>Yuropoor
>Cares about girls getting raped
>Best friends with a brown Muslim and a mixed-race Japanese guy
He wouldn't fit in there.
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>>150600258
>amerishart 3rd worlder
>handing out opinions
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>>150600258
>He wouldn't fit in there
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>>150595875

Kars would have ruled the world and emptied it of life. Though who knows if Ultimate Kars needs to eat as much as regular Kars. He might just become god emperor.

Dio would've just ruled over earth. Eating people and fucking japanese girls/priests
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Post characters who would be a great husband/father
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Since the pastebin's gone, does anyone have a link to the Diamond is Unbreakable OST?
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>>150600884
In spite of being a deeply flawed person, Johnny was a kind and loving husband and father who sacrificed everything for his family.
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>>150600951
his wife probably pegged that ass
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>>150600971
Well duh, who wouldn't?
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>>150600884
>Bruno could have adopted trish and been her father
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>>150601066
He was only 5 years older than her
They could have fucked
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>>150600948
Please help
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>>150600884
Buccellati would be a good husband but he'd constantly bring home stray horrible children he found in the trash
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>>150601126
He just wanted her to be happy
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>>150601174
>Buccellati hallucinates Trish's tits right in his face when he's mistaking Doppio for her
He was thinking with his dick
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>>150601208
Stop this at once
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>>150601231
He probably diddled all his subordinates, it's an initiation-rite
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Lisa Lisa, Kaato or Shinobu?
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>>150601267
He probably gave Abbacchio a brojob.
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>>150601321
tell me again why people don't think part 5 is the peak of faggotry
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>>150601292
She hasn't been around long, but I already love her.
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why is the world so sad?
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>>150601346
Anyone who suggests part 5 isn't the peak of faggotry is delusional.

5>2>7>3>6>1>4>8
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>>150601346
Nothing gay about feeling at ease around your bro
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>>150601364
Its master is lame fanservice Diego instead of cool dinosaur Diego
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>>150601346
was abbacchio into bruno or was it just because he wanted to be mindless drone who only follows orders?
or both
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>>150601470
Initially Abbacchio's reason for following Bruno was because he wanted to be a mindless drone who had instructions to follow, but his choice to accompany him after he'd betrayed Diavolo proved he'd changed his mindset. As he said, he swore loyalty to the gang and not Bruno specifically. His choice to follow him was an act of treachery he consciously made because he cared about Bruno more than following orders, and because he knew it was the right thing to do.
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What if the only drug Diavolo sold was weed and Bruno and co were a bunch of straight-edge faggots?
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>>150601628
still not good for the chiiiiidren
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>>150601588
i wish he didn't get killed off so soon
though he wouldn't have been much use in the final fight
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Ratt's episode uncensored is fucking nasty
https://twitter.com/Monsutera10/status/801264334085058561
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>>150600951
Why'd araki end part 6 with such unsatisfying feeling? Like, that poor cripple lost the race, his friend and a fcking diego tricked his ass and then was finished off by a girl with his arm from alt dimension. Ending is a fcking prostration in a nutshell. But hey, you killed the president who wanted to make your country great again and got yourself an asian gf, my ass.
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r8 my tastes, and tell me why you agree/disagree.
7>5>4>3>1>6>2
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>>150601683
Abbachio's death is one of the most tragic i the series, he had just discovered a new lease on life and found a vital piece of information to help his friends accomplish their goal
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Be honest with me.

The series doesn't get good until Stardust Crusaders right?

Please.
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>>150601689
DELET THIS!!
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>>150601748
end your misery
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>>150601765
Please? Be honest.
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>>150601683
He lasted at least three quarters of the story, to be fair. It was only the final three (I think) fights he missed out on, Secco/Cioccolata, SCR and the blink-and-you'll-miss-it Diavolo encounters. But yeah, a non-combat-based stand in such a fight-heavy part wasn't of much use, Abbacchio really would've benefited from being in a later part where Araki's story-writing skills were a little more subtle.
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>>150601768
I am
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Is there any part more boring than 5?

>Worst villain
>Worst "JoJo"
>Meaningless plot
>Asspull ending
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>>150601703
Putting 6 that low is pretty unforgivable honestly, while it has its issues it's also packed full of great characters, fights and ideas.
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>>150601748
>>150601768
Not even Crazy Diamond can fix shit taste.
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>>150601704
>>150601769
>Abbacchio really would've benefited from being in a later part where Araki's story-writing skills were a little more subtle.
he actually would. his past was pretty tame compared to others in part 5 too
poor guy can't get a break
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>>150601692
I'm the opposite, part 7 had my favorite ending. The race hadn't been important for a long time, ever since the characters figured out it was only a front to gather the corpse-parts. Gyro's sacrifice was a moving and fitting culmination of his character-arc and what he meant to Johnny. Diego coming back was mostly-fanservice, but it allowed Lucy to show what a cunning and dangerous person her experiences had made her into even without a stand. Valentine was a rapist and a liar who was going to backstab Johnny and paid the price for it. Rina Higashikata was cute.
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these threads were so much better when 4/7 tards were not sperging out on other parts.
4/7 tards with their shitty parts killed the /jojo/
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>>150601843
>Valentine was a rapist and a liar who was going to backstab Johnny and paid the price for it.
Finally, somebody said the truth.
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>>150601796
I'm just saying that part 1 fights were maybe less deep, they were at least not the worst fights of jojo unlike the dragon shit with the piss drinking grampa, the retarded green shit automatic being retarded, etc...
It had some characters with class, depth and backstory, but not as memorable as Zeppeli, speedwagon...
And I like Jonathan a lot more than Jolyne. I don't see the appeal about Jolyne.
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>>150601789
jesus and deflecting misfortunes is way bigger asspull than part 5's or any other jojo "asspull".
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You now remember how bullshit overpowered Yellow Temperance is.
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Am I the only one who thinks Araki's style got worse in the later parts? He got a good feeling of form but all of his characters are the same. I'd say it started at part 6.
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>>150597670
nice one
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>>150601864
Bad post man.
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I came here to say that you all have shit taste
6 > 4 > 8 > 5 > 7 > 1 > 3 > 2
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>>150601864
>Zeppeli
>Speedwagon
>memorable
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>>150601748
The series get good at the end of part 1, is probably the worst in part 2, decent and classic in part 3, interesting, original and deep but not perfect in part 4, Great with beautiful fights and a lot of tension, with good character writing except for a few ones in part 5, a bit shitty again in part 6 even if it has some good sides, and totally awesome in part 7.
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>>150601885
I dunno, early and mid SBR was pretty great and seemed to show a lot of variance, it's only really part 8 that the unexpressive sameface seems as obvious.
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>>150595648
There was a relatively recent SDC drawing, and Iggy looked fine in it. He just likes making weird dogs.
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7>6>4>5>3>2>1

Araki's writing gets near-consistently better as time goes on.
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The original Stardust Crusaders (Jotaro*, Joseph, Avdol, Polnareff, Kakyoin, Iggy) run a gauntlet of all the JJBA villains so far:

Round 1: Dio in his castle, surrounded by the zombie army. Their knowledge of Dio is the same as they have in Part 3.

Round 2: Ultimate Lifeform Kars, dawn just outside the Colosseum. Joseph knows everything that he did when fighting Ultimate Kars originally, but nothing more about him.

Round 3: Dio with The World. Same as the actual fight except imagine Iggy and Avdol didn't bite it

Round 4: Speaking of biting, the squad face off against Kira Yoshikage. They have to solve the mystery of the murderer of Morioh, and stop him. Bonus part, can they find and beat the new Kosaku-Kira with his new powers?

Round 5: Diavolo. Sparsely populated area near Colosseum ruins in Rome, they know what he looks like but not his Stand power. Bonus part, they do know his power.

Round 6: Pucci. First with Whitesnake (takes place in the middle of prison), then C-Moon (at the Kennedy Space Centre), then Made in Heaven (start out on the roof where Jotaro and co. were posted in the actual storyline)

Round 7: Funny Valentine. They have to track down and kill him in Washington, he knows that a group of men with Stands are coming to kill him. All the Crusaders know is that he is an extremely powerful Stand-user. Bonus round, he gets access to Love Train.

Round 8: Joshuu Higashikata. Can the Crusaders defeat this absolute monster? Takes place in Yasuho's bedroom

*Jotaro has his 5 seconds of time-stop.
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>>150601902
>the plankton retarded girl more memorable than Speedwagon
Wes and Pucci were awesome and greatly written, more memorable indeed. But you hear about their stories only at the end of the part for real...
part 6 have an awesome side: not the ending, but the last chapters. I feel like that's all. Really hated most of part 6's fights.
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>>150601955
7>6>5>4>3>2>1
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>>150601901
Unusual but not at all objectionable taste. Even if it's not my favorite part, people who rate part 6 highly tend to have good taste in other parts too, interestingly enough. And people who rate it low tend to have shit taste in general.
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>>150601955
>6 better writing
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>>150601965
You sound like a really boring person.
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>>150601965
The only memorable character from part 1 is Dio.
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>>150601962
>They have to solve the mystery of the murderer of Morioh, and stop him. Bonus part, can they find and beat the new Kosaku-Kira with his new powers?
Joseph uses Hermit Purple to find him LIKE HE SHOULD HAVE DONE IN PART 4 IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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>>150601955
>implying 3 has better writing than 1 and 2
How can you be so wrong?
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So is there anyone that can defeat GER?
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>>150595875
Cioccolata would've possibly wiped out all life on earth for lulz, so him, and then Kars.
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>>150602029
>'I'll use Hermit Purple to photograph anything'
>'Fuck its that DIO fag again and this photo is useless'
>'I'll use Hermit Purple to photograph DIO's mansion'
>'WTF hardly any of these pictures show anything'
>'I'll use Hermit Purple to photograph Josuke'
>'Oh shit it's just taking photographs of this serial-killer wtf'
Hermit Purple is not a very reliable stand.
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>>150602006
could you develop your point/explain why and how ?
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>>150602059
But they never even tried to find Kira that way. They brought Joseph to town for the sole purpose of finding Akira with his Stand, then forgot about it.
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>>150602042
Bohemian Rhapsody is super bullshit
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>>150602040
Polnareff's character-arc alone has better writing than anything in 3 and 2. 1 was a short story of two men's rivalry that was only truly memorable at the very end, 2 was the misadventures of the tricksy ruseman, and 3 was about a group of adventurers going on a cross-country journey and all the shit they encountered along the way.
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BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>150601962
Anyway they'd win everything up until Part 5, then get their shit pushed in every time.
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>>150602107
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>>150601789
>Worst villain
Are you trying to say that doppio/diavolo are worst than Kars ? You sure about that ?
>Worst "JoJo"
less binnary than Jonathan, less retarded than Joseph, with more depth and more likable than Jotaro, worse than josuke on every possible point, and better than jolyne on most points. worse than jhonny. That doesn't look like the worst jojo to me.
>meaningless plot
Yeah, because saving your mother from some vodoo stand shit is a more noble cause and more logical and realistical one than becoming the most powerful gangsta.
>asspull ending
Tell me more about asspull endings with part 2, part 6 emporio shits, and the part 1 "I lost but i'm not gunna die loool :^^^)"
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>>150602102
Did you speedread or animeonly or something?
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>>150601789
Weak b8
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>>150602152
>with more depth and more likable than Jotaro
>better than jolyne on most points
Giornofags disgust me.
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I just want to live a quiet life,
Days that start feeling like picnics;
Just here chewing sandwiches away...

Collecting nail clippings is my only hobby,
Having a job is my one way ticket...
Before i chop some lady's hand away!

With the softness and the boner that i always get,
Always in a thrilling day i always say!

What a beautiful Duwang-
A pretty Duwang-
Such a Duwang-
Days like this feel so good
I chop your hand, Duwang-
Everyday, Duwang-
If you tell a thing they will explode!

The only thing that will separate victory from defeat,
Is this absolute feel... so i say Duwang

With the softness and the boner that i always get,
Always in a thrilling day i always say!

What a beautiful Duwang-
A pretty Duwang-
Such a Duwang-
Days like this feel so good
I chop your hand, Duwang-
Everyday, Duwang-
If you tell a thing they will explode!

Du-Du-Duwang Du-Du-Duwang Du-Du-Duwang
I'm not really your dad
Du-Du-Duwang Du-Du-Duwang
Mona Lisa, i cum

The only thing that will separate victory from defeat,
Is this absolute feel... so i say Duwang
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>>150602064
Sure thing. You dismiss characters like F.F without explanation while insisting that ones like Speedwagon and Zeppeli are amazing (without providing explanations for that, either) and bleat about muh Dragons Dream and Yo Yo Ma instead of anything else.

>Pucci and Wes are good but the girls all suck lmao
>Yo Yo Ma and Dragons Dream

Pretty much every post I've seen hating on part 6 is based on this, it's like how part 5 haters all hate Giorno being bland and GER being an asspull while saying they like Buccellati, or part 4 haters all hate SOL and Koichi while saying they like Kira, etc. It's all the same shit.
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>>150602152
>with more depth and more likable than Jotaro
>better than jolyne on most points
What the fuck is this disgusting taste
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>>150602152
wew
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>>150602205
I'm glad that anon storytimed Dragon's Dream here, it's a pretty great fight, I had forgotten how good it was (I've been leaving off rereading Stone Ocean until VA is properly translated)
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>>150602159
Not an argument.

Whether you like it or not, part 3 was where JoJo started being more character-arc-based and tactics-based, which is what it's stayed as ever since. It didn't do it perfectly (hence me rating all the later parts over it) but it demonstrated more thought and more originality than 1 and 2.
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>>150602179
Tell me how did you like the "yare yare daze" distributor ?
For jolyne, that's fully subjective. I just did not enjoy any part of her character or her actions, whereas Giorno was always determined by something deep into doing a big part of his moves. And the origins of the character and his age explain a lot about him and give him a more mature appearance, unlike Jotaro who looked like an edgy kid in part 3.
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>>150602152
>worse than josuke on every possible point
Giorno's character motivation shit on not only Josuke's but also everyone else's, except Johnny and Gappy.
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>Photos of the screen
Fucking nips, I know they all have computers from 1998, but isn't there someone who will rip the BDs?
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>>150602238
It's not the most amazing fight in the series, but both it and Yo Yo Ma aren't objectionable. And the tension in both of them was pretty terrifying, the rights were full of horrific body-horror themselves and the people turning into trees on the side made it particularly horrifying.

If you want an actually bad fight, I'd nominate the Sasame one in part 8. Some guy who has a weird grudge against Kira for being tricked into eating his fingers kidnaps a completely random woman, dresses up like Kira and takes photos of himself to scare off teenage girls, and drops venomous snakes and shit on Josuke all over a case of mistaken identity.
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>>150602238
no its really not

and part 6 is my favorite part
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>>150602262
I know it wasn't an argument. Are you legit autistic, thinking everyone wants to argue with you?

Some people just want to laugh at you for your hilariously bad opinions.

It really looks like you haven't read Part 1 by the way, it is entirely about Jonathan's growth as a character.
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>>150602179
It's weird how samey they all are. I don't think I've ever seen a Giornofag talk about Giorno without insulting other characters to try and make him seem better by comparison.
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>>150602371
Being nonsensical is pretty much a prerequisite for a JoJo fight though. It's what you read JoJo for, Araki does [Bizarre] better than anyone else.

That Jojolion fight is one of the best in the whole part though, it's a really tense battle with an invisible opponent, solved via a creative use of the main characters stand (which we are INTRODUCED to in the fight!), and has loads of great WTF moments like the razors, the falling snakes, the naked girl in the bath.
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>>150602385
>Your opinion isn't mine so you clearly didn't read it
>U autist. U autist!!!!
You're not doing yourself or part 1 any favors.
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>>150602205
Thanks for your answer. And good points.
So I'll try developping.
I'm not providing much explanation because my feelings about F.F, zeppeli and Speedwagon are mostely subjectives.
But objectively: Speedwagon was both epic(a good fighting style at the start, and full of compassion and love for Jojo and Zeppeli. T he whole with passion) and useful through almost every arcs with his foundation. He was human and lovable, even if he was a bit useless at some points in part 1.
Zeppeli was surprising, and looked like a gray character at the start. He then became a paternal figure and a determined human, being able to suppress his human weaknesses to follow his goal, for the well being of humanity. He was a noble character, with determination and a lot of wisdom. He looked a bit like a jobber at some points, but his death was memorable and full of meanings.

Yo Yo Ma and Dragons Dream are the most common arguments, because they are the ones that we remember the most because of how much boredom they generated. I wanted to stop reading the manga at part 6, but was attracted by part 7 too much to stop there.

But even if I like part 5, I understand why people are making the "giorno is bland and GER is an asspull" argument, he's legit to some extend. Just not enough to convince me or to suppress the feelings part 5 caused.
"It's all the same shit" But it's all partially true. Saying people are making similar comments doesn't make them untrue by nature, that's just a flawed rhetorical trick.
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>>150602431
You probably speedread it, or never read it because you got into JoJo with the anime. Maybe, at a stretch, you read it many many years ago and forgot.

Phantom Blood is a coming of age story. Araki definitely got better at writing character arcs, and more interested in it in later parts, but it is ridiculous to say that Polnareff changed more than Jonathan did.
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>>150602422
There's weird and then there's farcical, and that fight has been the only one in the whole series which falls into that category for me. Even stuff like Bohemian Rhapsody seemed to make more sense even while remaining bizarre, whereas the more you learned about Sasame and what he was doing, the less it seemed to add up.

We can agree to disagree though. I think my favorite part 8 fight for the reasons you listed for liking Fun Fun Fun would be the fight with Yagiyama, being introduced to rock-human biology mid-fight was pretty cool.
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post how you feel about the jojos
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>>150602102
Sorry anon, but I don't think you know what good writing is.
Part 3 has shit writing and that is a fact. The plot is literally get from point A to point B. Everything in between is meaningless, there is zero progression to the plot through out the entire thing.
Even if the Crusaders try to find out what DIO's ability is in arcs like Justice, Lovers and D'arby the Gambler, they don't get shit, and it's quite frustrating actually.
Even if you dislike Part 1 and Part 2, you cannot deny that every single thing that happens moves the plot forward.
Shit on Joseph and Jonathan all you want, but there is no point in BT nor PB that you can call filler.
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>>150602474
How about you stop making these assumptions about me? The more you make, the more off-the-mark they are, and the weaker your arguments seem. You've made three assumptions in one post, and all of them are utterly wrong.

Sure, Phantom Blood is unquestionably Jonathan's story, and shows him changing from a spoiled brat into a selfless hero. But you're comparing apples to oranges by claiming that that is better than Polnareff's arc just because Jonathan changes more than Polnareff. Jonathan goes from being 12 to 20, of course he'd change more than how much Polnareff changes over fifty odd days. What I said from the start was that 3 featured better WRITING and stand by that.

Jonathan gets the standard heroic evolution, which is all very nice. Polnareff doesn't change as much in comparison, but his experiences change him from a chivalrous but perverted loner who doesn't ever think about his actions into being a more serious and caring guy who stays positive in spite of the overwhelming tragedies in his life, and learns to put others before himself and his motives.

Once again, I never said Polnareff changed more than Jonathan, I said his changes were written better.
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>>150602482
For me the appeal of JJBA is just being constantly surprised by unexpected twists and turns, inventive ideas, and bizarre shit (as well as the pretty distinctive, stylish art and a handful of Araki's characters). The explanations rarely make any fucking sense, and often aren't even offered (How the fuck did Joseph get a bird into that girl's mouth? Why did Notorious B.I.G. make Giorno write weird things about being scared and being killed before it attacked them?, etc), but that is just something you accept.
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>>150602681
You're parading your own ignorance of good writing if you dismiss everything in the middle of an adventure-story as 'literally getting from point A to point B'. The stuff that happens in the middle is actually the bulk of the story. It's where most of the characterization shows. Ever heard of the journey being more important than the destination?

I'd take a 'filler' fight like The Grateful Dead over the plot-important Tarkus fight, thanks.
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>>150602545
Jonathan: Bland
Joseph: Good meme character
Jotaro: Okay. Not much depth til part 6 (like DIO)
Josuke: I honestly have trouble remembering him
Giorno: Why does he exist
Jolyne: Now we're talking, great development+character arc
Johnny: Same as Jolyne
Gappy: Makes me happy
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>>150602749
>Using part 5's genius to defend part 3
That's not the way to do it man.
In which way Death 13 shows any depth to any character ? The sun ? The car shit ?
They almost fell disconnected from some characters at some points. That was never "naruto filler tier", but still a little bit.
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>>150602685
You are overselling Polanreff's changes. He just does the standard shounen thing of getting "serious" in his last two fights, after crying quite a lot. The character change doesn't manifest in any way other than him kicking ass, which is all he did anyway. You probably think it is subtle, but that's because you are projecting it in there where there is nothing.

Part 4 is where Araki gets more into character development, really focusing on Koichi as well as Hayato and even Kira. In Part 5 there is less of that, as he seems focused on writing a Messianic figure defined by his inspiring virtues (Giorno), and a satanic figure defined by his weaknesses (Diavolo), with the part being more about the effect these people have on those around them, than any huge character arcs. There are a few more occurrences of less reliable characters becoming "serious" a bit like Polnareff does, but less big arcs, it's more of a character study. 6 and 7 are way more about arcs, but it's a complete fallacy to say that a character needs to have an arc and change before our eyes for a good story - many of the best stories of all time are all about characters who stay the same.
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>>150602545
Jonathan: badly written, but epic and emotional. respectable and lovable.
Joseph: obnoxious as hell, but seems so much more human and lovable than Jonathan. When you take a look from far away, he just seem badly written. Hated him in part 3 and 4.
Jotaro: Yare Yare daze. Other than that, just bullshit and asspull everyday with star fingers, "same type of stand" bullshit etc... To make him a Gary Stu with no personality.
Josuke: I don't know why he is so awesome and A E S T H E T I C.
Giorno: mixed feelings. He does seem bland at some points, but on some others he feel determined by something so noble, deep and powerful.
Jolyne: Don't know why I hated her. Pissed me off.
Johnny: Best jojo, best evolution of a character, best writing, best back story, best brojo in his part.
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>>150602545
Jonathan is a charming and likable character in spite of being kind of dated. Wish he wouldn't get shit on as much here.
Joseph is loads of fun, and his relationship with Wamuu was great. Good supporting-character in SDC, too.
Jotaro cops too much shit for being supposedly shallow, he benefits the most from his later-part appearances though. I love his style, and his friendship with Polnareff and Koichi.
Josuke's a sweet and charming MC, it took me a while to really get into him but I'm glad I did. Wish he'd shown up after 4 finished.
Buccellati has the best stand, and I'm a huge sucker for how he's a gentle and righteous guy beneath his cold exterior. His relationships with his crew are all great as well, I'd rate him really highly.
Jolyne's the best, she's got the best parts of Jonathan's heroic and nurturing sides coupled with Joseph's sassiness and Jotaro's cool brutality. One of my favorite characters in the series.
Johnny's excellent too for very different reasons, I really appreciate that he doesn't get a 'selfish jerk learns kindness and compassion' arc but still manages to avoid being a total dick. His friendship with Gyro is the best Jojo friendship.
Gappy took a while to grow on me but I like him a ton now, his goofy moments (like putting the hair on Joshu and Hato, eating those dango) are really sweet. Hope he gets the chance to make friends with people other than Yasuho and Norisuke.
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>that tounge
Doppio is lewd
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>>150602938
>Buccellati has the best stand, and I'm a huge sucker for how he's a gentle and righteous guy beneath his cold exterior. His relationships with his crew are all great as well, I'd rate him really highly.
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>>150602815
Death 13 was one of the better fights in 3, it played on Polnareff's denseness, Kakyoin's panic and despair at not being believed (and then later on his hidden sicko side) and how this would effect the rest of the group. And it let the characters show aspects of their personalities that wouldn't normally come up either, like Joseph's experience with children, and Jotaro and Polnareff's lack thereof. The out-there aspect of the fight (and how the main threat comes from the allies rather than the stand-user himself) makes it one of the more unique fights in the series, too.

There's not much defending the Sun (which was over in like two chapters iirc) or Wheel of Fortune and I never really tried to. You've made up this idea that I'm this enormous part 3 fag because I said I think it has better writing than 1 and 2, even though I said I think 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 all have better writing than it. Which is pretty absurd.
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>>150602965
That's Diavolo though.
I want to lick him
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>>150602749
That's not what I meant, the thing is, in BT, for example, we are always solving issues relating to the storyline. Everything from Straizo, to Mexico, to Santana was a natural progression that was actually plot related.
In a good story, if you remove the "bulk", as you said, we lose something, that just doesn't happen in SC. If the Crusaders just go on a plane and reached Egypt after Polnareff joined them, nothing plot-wise would be lost. Character-wise, yes, Polnareff and Kakyoin did develop, but that's not what I'm getting at.
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>>150602819
Just like Jonathan does the standard shounen thing of getting serious when his loved ones are hurt and summoning billowing clouds of sparking energy that other characters are awed by? You can't dismiss Polnareff's arc without putting Jonathan's in the spotlight, neither of them are flawless or anything close.

Neither parts 1 or 3 are amazing works of character-building art. Your second paragraph is literally you listing a series of things I almost completely agree with. I said that I think parts 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 all display better writing than 3, but the only thing that you've fixated on is me saying I think 3 displays better writing than 4.
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>>150603029
>Hating Buccellati
Who hurt you
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>>150602545
Jonathan is my favorite jojo. He is the most manly and inspiring character, and set the foundation to what a jojo should be like.
Young joseph was all the fun, while being manly and emotional.
Old Joseph is a jobber, and totally ruined as a chatacter.
Jotaro is really boring.
Josuke is an annoying brick. I don't like his goofy antics.
Giorno is a badass and as straightforward as possible, while being really boring.
Jolyne is the greatest jojo since jonathan. She is a great character, with a lot of development.
Johnny is an ass.
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>>150602545
Jonathan: A really nice standard protagonist we see grow from a cheeky shota, to a miserable teen, and then into an inspirational hero, hitting all the tropes on the way.
Joseph: Best boy, makes his part so much better than it has any right to be by being constantly entertaining, literally my favourite type of protagonist
Jotaro: Hella underrated here, does his job as a silent badass really well. Jotaro is all about fucking people up in an extremely stylish, no fuss way. He's also amusing if you imagine he's autistic with his one liners.
Josuke: Was murdered nearly as bad as Giorno by shitty manga translations, he's a pretty great character, another carefree mischievous teen, with a lot of Jotaro's sense of style, and his cute obsession with his hair not being messed with. Most entertaining when messing around with Okuyasu or annoying Rohan
Giorno: Also underrated here, he is unique in not being written as being relatable in any way shape or form, and is more an inspirational character the rest of the cast is written around. Suffers from is that Bruno is a similar character, better written.
Jolyne: Combines many of the best elements of past JoJos, is probably the best protagonist. A complete stone cold badass like Jotaro, but able to be entertaining and silly like Josuke or Joseph. Best girl.
Johnny: Like Giorno, overshadowed by another member of the team, who is more interesting than him in every way. Unique in not really having a protagonist kind of personality, he is more of a snarky sidekick to Gyro until he gets all his character development in the last third. Still one half of the best duo in JoJo, all his interactions with Gyro are best
Gappy: Starts off as a goofy autistic guy with a badass streak, but possibly again due to bad translation comes off pretty bland due to not really having anything to give him a personality; all he does is try and find muh identity. At his best when being cute with Yasuho.
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>>150603108
That's fair, but in a character-based story (like SDC or DIU), characters come before the overarching storyline.

If you remove the bulk of DIU, you get a few characters we don't really know ganging up on a murderer, forcing him to change his face, finding him again and getting his head run over. Does this mean DIU has a weak storyline? Eh, eye of the beholder but I don't think so, not everything has to lead in a straight line and add up to the conclusion for something to be fun and investing.
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>>150603124
3 has the weakest writing of any part by far I'd say, Araki didn't even seem interested in writing a story or good characters in it, other than DIO himself.

The difference is we see Jonathan grow step by step, we see the events in his life that made him into the man he is by the end, and all the times when he could have fucked up and gone a different route, but didn't.

Part 4 has Kira in it, who is by far and away the best written villain Araki has ever come up with. Hayato alone is better than anything in Part 3.
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>>150603242
I honestly thought Johnny was way more interesting than Gyro. Gyro was an unfunny fag t bh.
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>>150603287
>Part 4 has Kira in it, who is by far and away the best written villain Araki has ever come up with
Pucci and Valentine would like to have a word with you.
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>>150603291
Gyro is the best character in the entire of JoJo, Johnny is okay, but no comparison between the two. The shit with returning to zero is really good though.
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>>150603342
Valentine is really dull as a villain, he's just an evil cunt who uses MUH AMERICA as motivation, literally America being copy pasted into the name of the EVIL EMPIRE for a standard megalomaniac villain is enough for some people to miss how generic he is.
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>>150603287
I don't share most of those opinions, but you're entitled to them. People disagreeing with me doesn't make them part-skippers or animeonlies, after all.
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>>150603375
Yeah sorry about that, I actually misread your posts and thought you said Part 1 had no character development, that was what I was going off. My mistake, disregard me I suck cocks, etc
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>>150602965
I think Diavolo actually hid his identity because he didnt want anyone to know that he liked to act like a submissive twink.

You cant be a twink and a mafia don unless its like the gay mafia or something.
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>>150602965
>rereading Part 5 for the first time in a decade now it mostly has new scans
>finally see what all the fuss is about for Doppio

Jesus fuck muh dick
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>>150603342
I didn't like Valentine, but then again I didn't like Kira either. Pucci is the best written. I'm also fond of Diavolo, but he's no Pucci
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>>150603388
It's cool, shitting on part 1/2 and everything in them is way too common around here and I can't entirely blame you for misinterpreting things. Even if I think them (and 3) are weaker than the later parts they're still enjoyable and it's stupid to claim there's no character-development.

And shit, I just noticed a pretty heinous mistake I made, I said 'I think 3 displays better writing than 4' when I meant 'I think 3 displays better writing than 1'. Don't know how that happened but it shows anyone can fuck up.
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>>150603408
>You cant be a twink and a mafia don unless its like the gay mafia or something
Anon...
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4 > 6 > 7 = 5 > 3 > 2 > 1 come at me

also watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FJBFSywjZg
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>>150603408
>Diavolo used to look like this
Really makes you think.
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>>150603366
If you want to simplify it to its bare bones, then you are correct.

However you miss the moral point of Valentine.
The evil empire villain is notably selfish, and valentine is definitely not selfish.
At the time the story takes place, getting the corpse really is in the best interest of the United States. He wanted to make America powerful, and protect it from despotic nations that would use the corpse as a weapon.
Furthermore, he was more than willing to sacrifice himself for that goal. He did not care about his legacy, his presidency, or his own power. He simply wanted to protect the US and make it prosperous.

That is the reason he is loved. Honestly if you were in his position, and not a total cunt, you would likely do the same.
I mean your levels of rape and murder might vary, but you would still try to do right by your country as a president.

The point is, given his circumstance, and excluding his methodology, Valentine did the right thing. he just was at odds with the protagonist of the story.
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>>150603492
Yeah sorry I mistook you for one of those fags who just shits on the hamon parts non stop. I used to shit on Part 1 too, or at least think it was worst part, until I reread it in actual physical form, and it was just way more entertaining and coherent a story than I remember. The fact that the anime skipped a lot of Jonathan's character development didn't help, it's also why animeonlies tend to shit on him. It may not seem like much, but scenes/even panels where you see him goof around as a kid, or just little jokes shared between main characters, that DP often skip, are really important to getting invested in characters.

Part 1 and 2 anime adaptations really suffered from that. Like I was just reading on the wiki that the anime cut Joseph's line right when we first meet him about wanting to flip girls' skirts. It was only a panel or two, but that shit is why we love him.
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>>150603531
Strange but good taste.
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>>150603550
>The point is, given his circumstance, and excluding his methodology, Valentine did the right thing.

In other words, excluding how he did everything, what Valentine did is right, if you think America's best interests are the most important thing as well.

You just rephrased exactly what I said most people get confused by with him.

Also he was a total cunt, he didn't need to take the gun and try to shoot Johnny at the end.
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>>150603538
where did his freckles go?
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>>150603554
Yeah, say what you will about SDC and DIU, but they definitely had more time and less cut content than 1 and 2. A couple of jokes here and there were lost but it seems pretty trivial in the scale of things, especially given how much longer the parts were than the early ones. A cut panel of Josuke talking about his grandma might be a bit disappointing, but a cut scene of Jonathan being an overdramatic brat until he becomes ecstatic over finding chocolate in his room means you miss out on characterization of a guy who's only around for nine episodes.
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>>150603593
Not saying he wasnt a cunt. Just saying he was a little more than a muh evil empire type.

The gun thing still pissed me off. I know its not out of character for Valentine. He doesnt negotiate with terrorists, but goddamn man, your heart an actions may be unclouded but they are all those of dumbass. You could have lived, if you tried some diplomacy. That is your job as president afterall.
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>>150603650
They migrate to his hair when he switches forms.
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>>150603667
>your heart an actions may be unclouded but they are all those of dumbass
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>>150603650
Diavolo almost never goes outside
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>>150603667
Isn't his hypocrisy and deception an important part of his character, though? It shows that in spite of him trying to be the American hero he claims he is, he's still a selfish, lying and power-hungry jackass. Like you said, if he truly put America before himself then he wouldn't have tried to pull a gun on Johnny.

He did.
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>>150603263
I just want to get something out of the way, I enjoy SC for what it is, it's nice to just be able to an episode on when I'm having lunch or something of the liking. That being said, it's plot is the weakest in Jojo.
As for DU, I like to look at it as two big arcs. Akira/Arrow and Kira.
We start the part with Angelo, made a Stand user by the mysterious arrow. By the end of this arc, Otoishi is defeated and the arrow retrieved.
Kira's arc is better written, as it progresses over time. First we hear of him from Reimi, then Shigechi gets killed and leaves the button, after this the Cinderella salon is introduced, giving meaning to Yukako's character. Then we go straight into SHA and the introduction of the Kawajiri. All of these arcs contribute to the story somehow, and none of them are end game.
This post is already huge so I'll wrap it up.
My point is, you can be episodic and character driven without sacrificing the entire plot, and Araki learned this and applied it to Part 4.
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>>150603750
maybe im biased but i read it as "Johnny is a criminal, a terrorist, and i have to kill him before he kills me. He says he will free me from his stand, but I can free myself by shooting him."

Then again he is one of my favorites, and i dont want to believe he is a craven selfish cunt even though he is.
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Post your husbando.
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>>150603793
I agree with most of this, but couldn't you apply it to SDC too?
It starts off with Enya being the primary threat the same way Akira is, sending stand-users like Hazemada after the heroes. Enya/Akira are defeated pretty early on and easily, with later encounters like N'doul shedding a little light on what DIO and his powers are like until they finally find and confront him.
DIU and how its plot is handled is unquestionably a step up from SDC, with the later parts also being so, but I still think part 3's writing is treated too harshly.
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>>150602545
Josuke, Giorno and Gappy is alright, the rest is annoying garbage.
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>>150603832
Eh, I guess that's valid, but isn't there a lot of other things to suggest that Valentine's a cunt?

I mean, he tries to rape Lucy while luxuriating in her fear, gives no shits about his wife's murder, treats his loyal henchman like garbage (One poor guy got fucked up by wasps chasing Lucy, Valentine praised him for his dedication and loyalty and then slammed him into a door to another dimension so he wouldn't have to deal with him) and utilizes terrorist tactics. Not to mention how fundamentally selfish and unfair it is to make other countries suffer worse than they ever would to make yours perfect.

Isn't the appeal of Valentine that he's a cunt, but a complex and interesting one who genuinely doesn't believe he's a cunt?
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>>150603889
Yeah, I understand what you're getting at, I should totally re read 3. I don't remember a lot of things from it.
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The only good thing about part 5 are the fights

Prove me wrong
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>>150604038
prove yourself right
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>>150604038
I'll do it right after you kill yourself.
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>>150604038
done
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>>150604171
>you will never be spitroasted by giorno and bruno
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>>150603987
I don't blame you, while I think the Egypt-arc is easily as good as most of DIU (not as good as the best parts, though) the first half of it was crawling with forgettable fights and stands. Did anyone really like stuff like Wheel of Fortune or Strength, really?
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>>150604195
Good, I don't want to go to jail for having a threesome including a nine-year-old.
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>>150604195
>you will never be spitroasted by giorno and mista
FTFY
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>>150604250
>Fucking a child and a smelly ape at the same time
Shameful
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>>150604195
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>>150604262
This.

Bruno and Abbacchio are the patrician choices.
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>my face when every online community agrees Josuke should have pushed the car except /a/ who defend to the death Araki's decision to leave it as some guy.
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>>150604312
You could pick Giorno and Abbacchio if you wanted really tense, uncomfortable sex. Abbacchio would spend all the time glaring and making unprompted critiques of Giorno's prowess while Giorno politely thanked him for his input but disregarded everything he said anyway.
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>>150604038
And it doesnt even have the best fights
God,gw is such a trainwreck
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>>150604385
Time travel stories are cute, but it being just the kindness of a stranger is way more meaningful, and feeds into the themes of Part 4 way more; the heroes are defined around their strengths, and the villains their weaknesses, a bunch of people helping each other out and restoring the pride of Morioh, etc.

Most likely he just forgot though.
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>>150595184
I want to believe, but his design is significantly different than Emporio's. Emporio's design featured a full-fledged Cubs uniform, this kid's just got a shirt and cap. He could be any random Japanese kid and he's already made out to be an antagonist within 3 pages of being introduced.
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>>150604444
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>>150604389
That sounds strangely fun.
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>>150604444
Other parts had their highs but none were as consistently great for stand battles as part 5.
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>>150604491
>Being diddled by two people who hate each other
>Fun
I was about to jeer at you but I think you might actually be onto something
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>>150604539
Is there a name for this fetish?
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>>150604038
>>150604444
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>>150604583
>getting fucked by two people who hate each other.

I really dont think it has a name.
This is our chance /jojo/, we can name a sex fetish!
my vote is for Filthy Acts at a Reasonable Price.
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>>150604715
We created a new fetish, truly based. It can be shortened to FARPing.
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>>150604782
what would abbachio think if he read this?
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>>150604813
"kek"
He has a good sense of humor.
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>>150601849
who is this semen demon
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Why do people keep claiming that Valentine is an anti-hero when he was just as evil as previous JoJo villains? He merely uses America as a foil during the entirety of Part 7 because in the end Valentine is the leader of America so the more strength America has, the more strength Valentine has as a result. He would have sounded much more as an anti-hero had he not been president.
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>>150598663
>but his endgame was something that would benefit humanity save for the few people he had to kill to achieve it
Do you really want to know when and how you'll die but have absolutely no means of escaping it because it's fate? Knowing the future is useless if you can't do anything to change it.
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>>150603870
Both
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>>150598234
I wish he did. He was useless as a character.
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>>150601962
1, 2 and 3 would be easy. They'd beat david bowie but BtD would push their shit in hard. 5 would be unwinnable, so would MiH and they might have a shot against D4C if Jotaro is on top of his timestop game
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>>150602083
Knowing Joseph all he'd get is a blurry picture of some guy with blonde pubes using a severed hand to jack off in the bathroom
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>>150602545
Jonathan: Bland but also gentleman Goku. 6/10
Joseph: Fun meme character 8/10
Jotaro: Garbage until part 4 2/10
Josuke: Delinquent kid, has best brojo, possibly gay 7/10
Giorno: Best one do not prove me wrong 10/10
Jolyne: I don't even remember part 6
Johnny: Good shit 8/10
Gappy: I don't even remember him 3/10
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>>150604207
I thought the Strength fight was fucking hilarious - it was done particularly well in the anime
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>>150603342
Pucci is meh. He's well-written but doesn't entertain me much. Valentine is fantastic but Kira is still marginally better. Araki hasn't surpassed himself on that yet. I think it's the fact he has no real ambition except to live a quiet life, and that's not something you tend to get with villains.
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>>150603408
>unless its like the gay mafia or something
Which it is. Have you seen how those people dressed?
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>>150605810
b8
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>>150603550
>he just was at odds with the protagonist of the story
Who is actually a selfish prick who arguably is more morally dubious than Valentine.
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>>150598958
He was supposed to have all kinds of powers with the three word (like three freeze) but either araki forgot or he was pressured to wrap up the manga
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>>150603750
The way Valentine sees it, Johnny is a threat to him Making America Great Again. So he had to eliminate him. Also that Infinite Rotation thing is a bitch
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>>150605214
You didn't get Valentine's character at all. It's nothing to do with his own power, and entirely to do with the power and prosperity of his country. That's why he's willing to throw away his own life as many times as necessary to achieve those ends.
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>>150605849
>more morally dubious than the guy who wants to make everywhere but america hell
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>>150601962
Friendly reminder that the SDC crew is incredibly handicapped because they don't have a fucking healer in the party. Kakyoin's eyes getting scratched a little put him out of commission for weeks, then he dies from injuries that most characters in JoJo miraculously survive.

Especially against Kira, who can instantly erase your ass with so much as a touch.
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>>150605838
Pucci is just DIO's bottom bitch. I don't care about DIO's bottom bitch, I care about DIO.
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>>150602137
>>150605548
Why is Diavolo unbeatable? I would think that even with all the confusion going on one of them would be able to ice King Crimson and his E durability right after a skip.
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>>150605548
>Combar stands can defeat perfect kars meme.
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>>150605932
Not his problem. Most countries on earth are shitpiles anyway. In reality he'd only be making those already shitty places marginally worse. Also if the misfortune just gets randomly projected somewhere outside of the US then there's a good chance it'll hit a fish in the ocean about 80% of the time.
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>>150605975
Because nobody knows what the hell is going on, they don't have a healer in case they get donuted, and Jotaro's time stop doesn't mean dick since Diavolo will just skip it along with 10 seconds of normal time. You can't sneak up on him because Epitaph will predict the future.
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>>150605986
I mean, they could just keep wailing on Ultimate Kars until they manage to strap him to a rocket or something or every time he leaps out of that volcano they just knock him back in until he's too tired and burns to a crisp. If Avdol's fire can burn hot enough they might be able to kill him regularly.
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>>150606034
It's not like part 6's crew had a healer anyway and they probably would be able to handle most villains due to Heavy Weather anyway
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>>150606231
Technically F.F was the healer.
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>>150606244
Wait she could heal people with that I thought she could just repair herself with like it Jolyne does with Stone Free
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>>150605577
That would still be relevant though
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>>150606244
And Jolyne could sew up wounds with her string.
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>>150604715
>Implying Damo didnt give me a new melting fetish...
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>>150606269
>okay Jotaro go and find every man in Morioh with a golden bush
>I fucking hate you old man yare yare
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>>150605972
You mean DIO was Pucci's bottom bitch.
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>>150606260
yeah thats why i said technically. All she does is fill wounds with plankton to stop bleeding and such.
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>>150606231
>>150606244


F.F was the healer, she could inject plankton or something like that into a wound to heal it up, pretty much like Giorno and GE except I don't think F.F's caused horrible pain.
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>>150598356
Car frozen in the lake references the Ghiaccio fight in Part 5 (one of the best fights in the series imho). Really Old Joseph is from Part 4 cutting his wrists in order to find invisibaby.
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Best abilities that dont requier a stand to be summoned?
Its gotta be S&W bubbles for me
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Is Joseph supposed to refer to Germans as "Jerries" or am I watching a really bad sub
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>>150606739
Vitamin C or The World
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>>150606753
Pretty sure the latter
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>>150595875
Pucci was probably the least.
I mean, the world didn't change from the perspective of the people in it, and who cares about those suckers in the new one.
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>>150605670
Basically this

But I'd give Gappy a 7/10, he is cool
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I think Anime Onlies will be mixed on Part 5 - it all depends on how well animated the FS are
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Speaking of this month's Jojolion update, I made a reimagining of one of my favorite Jojolion scenes into DiU anime style. I'm also the same anon who drew Part 8 characters in DiU anime style...if you remember that.
Yasuho was kind of harder to pull of though, since I drew everything from scratch.
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>>150607252
i can tell you animeonlies aren't impressed with part 4.
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>>150607255
Fuck. I was sure I sent the image.
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If GE can't revive people and makes them Zombucellatis, why did Giorno live after Narancia died?
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>>150607255
I remember that, JJL looks great with that candy pop bullshit of part 4
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>>150607283
oh fuck good shit
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>>150607290
Giorno healed Narancia but he was already dead
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>>150607283
Pretty good
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>>150607280
Actually based on reaction videos i would say they are?
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>>150607283
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>>150607245
Dunno, he's not very memorable. I liked the moments when he said he won completly, but there is nothing really much that interesting in Happy.
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>>150607283
Very nice.

I have no idea how the balls work, but truth be told, probably neither does Araki.
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Black jojo protag when?
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>>150607407
right now
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>>150607372
Didnt we already cover this? its 1 set and the other is attached right below it
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>>150607407
WE
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>>150607407
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>>150607407
We already have it
>7 times in jail before being 19
>favourite food fried chicken
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>>150607559
>Aspiration to become a pilot
TOPPEST KEK
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>>150595875

Jobin
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>>150607186
>the world didn't change from the perspective of the people in it
The rapid decay of the environment shouldn't cause thousands of deaths. MiH makes no fucking sense at all.
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>Stray Cats air bullets can go through an encyclopedia or a tree like its nothing
>A watch can stop it and barely damages Kira
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>>150608073
I always thought of the watch redirecting the bubble. It makes a bit more sense that way.
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>>150608073
ít's a nice watch tho, even jotaro said it
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>>150608073
>flying types are super effective against grass
>not very effective against steel

poutpourri
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>>150608093
Still a watch should not be resistant enough to take the whole impact when much more sturdier shit couln't take it.
Its like those dumb stories of soldiers surviving being shot because the bullet hit their Ipod or something
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Fuck. Jojo ruined me. Does anyone else feel as if they don't enjoy other anime as much anymore or am I just being a pretentious faggot?

It's especially true when it comes to opening. I always end up thinking how shitty other ops are compared to jojo's ops.

>oh wow. Some generic hard rock
>oh wow some meaningless fight sequence with random baddies
Etc
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>>150608212
Motherfucker broke the code
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>>150608275
>oh wow some meaningless fight sequence with random baddies
nigga please
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>>150605972
DIO is a power bottom.
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>>150608275
There are definitely better anime but the manga is one of my favorites.
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>>150608360
>underage
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>>150608275
yes
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Looks like another shitty thread.
Nice work boys
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>>150608212
I hate you
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>>150608212
Is this a Pokemon reference?
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>>150605810
>his dynamic with jolyne
>his relationship with DIO
>counting the prime numbers to calm down
>constantly making the main cast choose between 2 options
>beats confessors
>yelling at his stand, making his stand sass-talk him
>killed the main cast
Kira is scooby doo tier.
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>>150608515
Kira is a laugh except during SHA.
He lost his scary villain badge after that.
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>>150608515
Kira's only good for laughing at
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>>150608569
>>150608543
ayy yo hol dup
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>>150608513
yes
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>>150608569
kira always gave off a comedic vibe to me for some reason but apparently the anime made people like him better

haven't watched part 4 yet tho
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>>150608543
>>150608569
Wait a second
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Post characters nobody seems to like except you.
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>>150608753
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>>150608753
>liking an edgemaster
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>>150608771
whom doesnt like Entire Equine?
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>>150608794
People that do not enjoy Circular Stallion and Bong water arc
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>>150600971
Why of all fucking posts or thoughts did this have to be the one that I'll fap to tonight.
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>>150607559
Do you guys have any other jojo profiles like this?
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>>150608753
I felt like he was much better in the anime

>>150608771
I can't think of anyone who doesn't like Complete Stallion

>>150608788
Nothing personnel
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>>150603108
"Solving issues relating to the storyline" apart from the gaping hole that is that the stupid stone of Aja could have been destroyed and nothing bad would happen.
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>>150608892
Must be tough being retarded, huh?
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>>150608938
>We could destroy the stone of Aja and prevent Kars from becoming an ultimate lifeform early
>But naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
No one's saying part 2's the worst part, but the writing was pretty shit.
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>>150608880
Everyone has repressed feelings for the Bovine male knows as 360 mare
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>>150609006
>but naaaaaaaah

Has to be tough.
The idea was that the red stone could have been used as a deadly weapon the entire time, hence the prophecy, but Joseph only finds that out by chance at the end.
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>>150608788
Angelo isn't edgy though. Violent and cartoonishly evil isn't the same as edgy.
I have the same kind of appreciation for him as I have for characters like Freddy Krueger or Frank from Blue Velvet: the depraved serial killer who's there to fuck shit up and crack jokes before he gets his shit kicked in.
For what he's worth, Angelo does what he is supposed to do as a character fine.

>>150608880
I only really started liking him because of the anime actually.
I guess it helps they added a lot to his portrayal and he got one of the best themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey_C4QkyM-c
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is that a jojo reference?
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>>150608753
I'm glad at least Araki likes her
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>>150609093
no, why
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>>150608753
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>>150609054
The idea was that Araki is a retard.

If they break the damn stone then Kars can't even become the ultimate life form, oh wow there goes the threat of the pillar man now that meme man is after his ring antidotes.
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>>150609164
Jesus christ the coloring for part 1 looks hideous.
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>>150609192
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Post top 5 characters in each part
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>>150595648
Iwasuke is not a normal dog
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God Anubis's VA in SDC was great. Really made me feel sorry for the guy.
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>>150609238
leg so stronk
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>>150609186
>If they break the damn stone then Kars can't even become the ultimate life form
If they break the Stone they have no bargaining chip to negotiate a death match between Joseph and Wham, and Kars simply sends his vampires to swarm and slaughter them. The Red Stone's safety is the only thing that prevents Kars from doing that.

I'm not defending Part 2 because I think it's retarded on a lot of aspects but this one in particular at least kinda makes sense.
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>>150609104
I was glad and surprised that Araki stick with her all the way up to 5
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>>150609238
>People will actually say Part 1 and 2 had the best art
I mean, I can get liking parts 1 and 2 a lot but there's nothing unique about the style at all, it's literally just HnK but parodied with the worst anatomy.
Still fun as fuck to read though, DP re-adapts HnK when?
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>>150608073
>what is range
>what is density
>what is duwang
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>>150609238
>>150609296
>Dio learned Zoom Kick
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>>150608275
I didn't really watch much anime to begin with so it hasn't affected me once
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>>150609186
>hurrr every1 is retard cept me!

No.
Without the red stone there was no bargaining chip after Ceasers death to create 1v1 fights.
Joseph and LisaLisa would have died against Wham, Kars, and their army
But you're an idiot who is addicted to the Frodo plothole may may.
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>>150609333
>Thats the same leg SP fucking punches
>And the same left that gets torn off in SDC
Sausages are not good appendages imo
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>>150608515
I still don't really care. Pucci's eccentricities don't do it for me like Kira's do.

I just can't really get past the fact he's DIO's second fiddle and that's it.
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>>150609299
Did they ever explain where those Vampires came from? And I suppose you're right, at first I thought "so what if worst Jojo dies" but then I realised that Joseph is the last line of defense against the Pillar Men since Everyone Jobs in Part 2.
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>>150608753
Angelo was a comically sick bastard and I like his stand, but holy shit was he a throw-away villain. Ugly, too
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>>150607283
i want a yasuho irl
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>>150609423
We all do,anon.We all do.
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>>150609445
I also want a JJL Kira and a DIU Kira.
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>>150609398
Man you're dumb af
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>>150609394
Except he isn't? He was always trying to achieve his own goal, not DIO's.
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>>150605859
source
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>>150609331
I definitely consider Part 2 to have the worst art style, and Araki wasn't particularly great at paneling and composition until the middle part of Stardust Crusaders, but I actually like the Phantom Blood art style from the middle to the end. It has some of the best panels in the series.
It genuinely astounds me that Araki was putting this out on a weekly basis, the gothic backgrounds and clothing in particular are very well detailed. I never had a problem with the anatomy because it's purposely over-the-top and ridiculous, it's part of the style.
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>>150609474
I only want Ocean man Kira.
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>>150609299
Then why didn't they destroy the red stone after Joseph beat Wammu?
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>>150609533
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>>150606315
How many blond japs are there thoguh
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>>150609536
Because Lisa Lisa was gonna fight Kars right after that, and he was right next to her the whole time
that shit was simply not gonna happen
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>>150609546
>orgy.png
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>>150609502
>muh heaven
>muh heaven, DIO...
lmao no

Araki neutered his character by making his whole raison d'etre carrying out DIO's will. We're not fighting Pucci, we're fighting DIO who's using Pucci as his henchman beyond the grave
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>>150605946
>they don't have a fucking healer in the party

Joseph but Joseph never remembers he has powers.
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>>150609536
>surrounded by vampires
>Kar RIGHT OVER THERE
They should've destroyed the stone if they wanted a shitfest and wanted to kill themselves
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>>150609398
Wired Beck says the vampires were criminals who were turned into vampires out of free will, sort of like how Dio turned prisoners into zombies.

>>150609536
Because the vampires were still there, and there was a scene where the vampires were prepared to swarm and attack Joseph after his victory, but Lisa Lisa threatened to destroy the Stone so she could have her match with Kars. If she actually destroyed the Stone, they would have killed her and Joseph anyway.
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>>150609526
>It's part of the style
Huh, I didn't think of it like that. Perhaps PB warrants a re-read in the same way I watch HnK to enjoy the cheesiness of it. I do remember it having some fucking great spreads.
>>150609394
>Pucci is DIO's second fiddle and that's it.
Did you even read the part?
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>>150609492
>af

Anyway tell me when any of the Hamon Crew do anything but job? A fucking Nazi does more than them.
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>>150609533
>>150609546
I wish Araki gave him a slightly different name. He's a completely different character to Kira

>>150609563
dyed pubes senpai. Jotaro would have to look down the pants of every man in Morioh to be sure
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>>150609598
Hamon doesn't heal cuts or holes
just diseases and broken bones
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>>150609576
>>150609606
>>150609612
Oh, that makes sense, it's been a while since I've read part 2. Thank you for clearing that up.
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>>150602545

>Jonathan
Basically an 80s hero stereotype, but well done. Him hugging Dio's head when dying in the ship is one of my favourite moments in the series

>Joseph
He's fun and all, but gets really annoying at times. My main problem is how his whole character comes from a bunch of catchphrases. Not a bad character, but my least favourite Jojo, I like him more in P3 and 4 though.

>Jotaro
Really annoying at first, maybe because this kind of character was done way too many times in recent years, but I got to like him as the story went on. He works much better in P4 and 6 as a supporting character, but as a Jojo he's only good for ORA ORA

>Josuke
One of my favourites. Mostly because he feels like the most human jojo by showing him using his ability to get money like many of us would or just hanging around with the crew. I don't think he gets overshadowed by the rest of the cast, plus his Jojo-brojo relationship with Okuyasu was my favorite.

>Giorno
I was surprised when i found that he was nowhere nearly as bad as people say. I like that he has aspects from Jonathan, like his courage or heroism, while being as ruthless and ambitious as Dio. Still, he gets a little overshadowed by Bruno but never stopped feeling like the MC to me.

>Jolyne
Another one of my favourites. Not being the average "I'm so cute plz save me ;_;" stereotype of women in anime/manga was one of the things I enjoyed the most about her. She shows some really good character developenet too and her relationship with Jotaro was more interesting than I tought it would be at first.

>Johnny
My favourite Jojo. I really disliked how much of a little bitch he was at first, but seeing him evolve into the badass he is at the end was worth the read.

>Gappy
Great so far. He might be rather childish sometimes but it works with the mood of P8. I'd like to wait until the end of Jojolion to come up with a final opinion of him.
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>>150609598
I mean, Hamon was supposedly so good it could heal fucking advanced necrosis so Joseph is basically a fucking retard for slacking off
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>>150609637
>I wish Araki gave him a slightly different name. He's a completely different character to Kira
Johnny and Josuke are completely different too. That's the point.
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>>150609612
Ahh thanks, I'm really not a fan of Part 2 so my knowledge on it is sketchy, (I'm more of a Part 1, 4,5,6,7,8 guy)
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>>150609637
Kirra.There.

Also doujin when?
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>>150609655
>I really disliked how much of a little bitch he was at first, but seeing him evolve into the badass he is at the end was worth the read.
B-But Johnny was ALWAYS whining and needed Gyro's help all the time, he a shit! SBR a shit!
Really couldn't have put it better myself, Johnny's growth was brilliant, one of the best parts of SBR's writing for certain.
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>>150609669
Exactly, and they have slightly different names. That's the point.
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>>150609624
>job

Sorry, I don't like spoon-feeding retarded trope niggers.
Just hate part 2, who gives a fuck?
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>>150609413
If Angelo was anything other than a throw-away villain he wouldn't have worked. I like him for what he is. I like Alessi for similar reasons.

There's a charming quality to ugly characters that I don't think people tend to appreciate anymore. They are very fun to draw and animate, you can literally do anything with them.
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who was the biggest jobber in jojo
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>>150609742
Brute
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>>150609742
Vegeta
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>>150609731
I guess, but Alessi was actually pretty fun. Angelo was just a mook with nothing else going on. Every other villain-of-the-week at least had some flair.
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>>150609742
Caesar
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>>150609742
Tonio is always jobbin
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>>150609592
DIO influenced him but he was never doing it for DIO, Pucci was far more about Pearla than he was about DIO.
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>>150609742
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>>150609615
It's that hyper-masculine art style that was popular with works like HnK and Phantom Blood. I see plenty of people accuse Phantom Blood of being a "HnK rip-off" which I just don't think is true, both were published and popular around similar times, and HnK is extremely guilty of actual plagiarism itself. Araki had several of the exact same influences as Tetsuo Hara had, American culture and action movies.
The thing that separates Phantom Blood is that heavy edge on horror and drama born from Araki being a movie buff, which is why the whole thing unfols more like a stage play than a fighting manga, and we see typical drama/horror scenarios that we should take seriously being lived out by giant goofy musclemen in fashion outfits. It's a lot of fun if you ask me.
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Whats he watching /a/?
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What's everyone's favorite OP and ED?

Bloody Storm and Roundabout for me.
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>>150609932
Great Days and Last Train Home here.
>>150609889
These threads really are making me more needlessly critical of the series, I remember starting part and loving the hell out of how goofy and over the top it felt then getting emotional as fuck over Jonathan's death scene. 'bout time to get the part 1 JoJoniums I reckon.
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>>150609925
It had to be done
Im sorry
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>>150609742
Someone like Mista I guess?
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>>150609925
Garbage.
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>>150609925
Do you think he filmed his own hands and fapped to the video?
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>>150609932
Sono Chi No Sadame and Roundabout, Part 2's Opening right after Sadame.
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>>150610023
Kira's got pretty good taste then.
Who's his waifu?
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>>150609889
Come to think of it, I'm surprised Japan's never made a Jojo play like they do for a lot of other manga.
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>>150610066
Probably Hecatia, she has worse fashion sense than Dio
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>>150609788
I think Angelo at least separates himself a bit from someone like J.Geil because of his Stand and the way he utilizes it, he's very competent for a villain-of-the-week. I like that his design is ogre-ish but mundane, he looks pretty silly in that outfit, but he is a part of one of the core concepts of Part 4: horror lyind behind the mundane life. In this case, the milkman being a horrible serial rapist trying to kill your family because of some grudge.
I'm not trying to argue that you should like Angelo or that he is underrated, I'm just personally stating why I like him.
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>>150609932
End of The World and Last Train Home
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>>150610001
Jonathan's death scene is still one of the top deaths, it's only slightly ruined by Dio pulling a wacky ruseman trick and getting into Part 3.
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>>150606753
Jerries is a period accurate term but it's just dub material
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>>150601909
>part 5 better then part 6.

What's wrong why did everyone here shitpost themselves to have retarded taste? Is it anime hype?
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>>150610162
>part 6 any good
fuck off with your shit taste. last 2 fights were decent in 6, rest part was a stinky mess.
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>>150610090
I was thinking Sagume for the hand-focus on her pose, seems more like the elegant type for Kira too.
>>150610095
Agreed, really feels like Dio's revival in 3 shit all over Jonathan's sacrifice.
>>150610162
More like people stopped pushing the "Part 5 is shit" meme and began to actually appreciate how good it is, though I'd still say part 6 is better than 5.
7 > 4 > 6 > 5 > 3 > 2 > 1
>>150610191
Then you've got this guy with the shittest taste imaginable.
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>>150598663
Pucci's plan is retarded anyway because there is no such thing as fate in an universe where time manipulation exists. Or in an universe with quantum mechanics(our case)
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>150610214
>b8
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>>150610214
Seagume incoming in 7 minutes
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>>150610191
>Any Jojo part
>Shit

This is how I tell retards from smart people
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>>150610264
This guy gets it, there are no shit JoJo parts. All parts have their flaws but their flaws are heavily outweighed by the good stuff, easily.
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>>150610264
>whole jojo
>good
this is how i tell manchilds from kids
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>>150610229
I didn't know anon gets to decide that, and not Araki

Oh wait, you're being autistic
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>>150610083
One of Araki's one-shots, Under Execution Under Jailbreak, apparently was adapted into a stage play a while ago.
But as someone who's worked on theater before, I believe that JoJo, particularly Phantom Blood, is a series that seems to have been made to be adapted into a musical of sorts.
It's not hard to picture Dio having a "I'm the villain and I love it" type of song or a training sequence of Zeppeli teaching Jonathan with a musical number. It wouldn't even be hard to adapt the full story or even the more out-there fantastical elements.

>>150610001
I've been following JoJo for two years and I re-read it all twice now, and Phantom Blood is still my favorite part. I wouldn't call it the best but it's the one I hold the closest to my heart.
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>>150610245
Godspeed, anon.
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>>150610283
Fuck off retard ;^)
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>>150610007
here you go pal
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>>150610280
I find it hard to go back to the first 3 parts. Everything is just so much better after those.
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>>150609648
It definitely does as long as it doesn't obstruct breathing
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>>150610283
>jojo
>good
you need better taste in manga/anime
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>>150610309
(◠‿◠) retard kys
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>>150610322
Thanks
I really need to get a better hand at doing this shit
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>>150609700

Maybe you just can't find any other words to express it?
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>>150610324
Honestly, I agree, that's what makes me appreciate parts 4-8 more though. Seeing how Araki grows through parts 1-3 into part 4 and later to make his series truly feel like it's own thing is great.
>>150610294
Good on you mate, even though part 1 ranks at the bottom for me I still really enjoy it, probably because I'm a HnKfag and the HNK-like elements of part 1 always make me enjoy watching it.
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>>150610371
>the same sad fuck every time

Oh dear ;^)
At least I'm working anon
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OK, i am serious.
i can understand that people like jojo. But if somebody on /a/ says that this is his FAVOURITE manga, he is literally a manchild with shit taste.
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>>150610471
Ok
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say when is the new chapter coming out?
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>>150610461
(^-^)i am working too.
but your seriously need to drink bleach considering your shit tastes.
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>>150610372
Just keep practicing at making dumb shit. You'll get better i promise.
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>>150610471
No one cares what Anonymous thinks, faggot.
Slap on a trip so we can laugh at you :^D
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>>150610301
Fuck my life I was searching for a good Kira image. At least I tried? I guess?
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>>150610471
jojo is mediocre desu.
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>>150610506
>Lying
>Being butt blasted over opinions

Whoops.
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>>150596623
man
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>>150610543
>projecting
omg (ᅌᴗᅌ)
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>>150610533
Simple enough, but not bad. Good shit, senpai. Good taste in toehoes too.
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boys how many of you are actually collecting Jojo manga?

I've been tryin to find where i can get rohan at the louvre for the original $20 price but its literally impossible, its really buggin me tho cause people were getting it at that price only a couple months ago, do i just wait or what?
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>>150610576
Are you implying I like moonbitches?

Ok I do.

But Mokou is the best
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>>150610471

>/a/
>"Evangelion is a LITERAL MASTERPIECE"
>complaining about other people's taste
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>>150610570
>/v/ memes

Oopsie
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>>150610606
thats too far m8. eva is better to be honest.
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>>150610586
Just go to the Louvres and buy it, dumbass.
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>>150610624
>segregating memes
(◡‿◡) autist
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>he became an adventurer at sea
So in the Duwang scans, instead of a marine biologist, Jotaro is a pirate.
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>>150610641
No
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>>150610641

It was good at first, but then went "wtf I'm 2deep now", grew too ambitious and went to shit
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>>150610605
(Most) Moonbitches can burn, even better taste though mate.
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did people seriously thought that gyro was going to live back in the days were sbr was still going on ?
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>>150610664
>segregating
>autist
>not even a real word

:^)
Sure is great to not be mentally challenged and off-board
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>>150610667
>polly
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>>150610699
>le mecha pew pew was good
>but deep stuff was boring
average jojo. memes are good for you tards
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>>150610705
Nah
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>>150610766
>Average jojo
Not him but a lot of jojo fans actually appreciate the deeper stuff in the series, that's why the better portions of SO's writing and SBR in general are held up pretty high.
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>>150610705

Well, it was marketed as a different manga (as far as I know) at first, so non Jojo fans didn't know about the whole Zeppeli dying tradition
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>>150610700
Oh my fucking god I didn't know I can meet people with such good taste in /a/.
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>>150610656
i was literally there recently, its in fucking french I want an english one nig
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>>150609858
He was totally doing it for DIO because he thought what DIO brainwashed him to want would bring others happiness because it might have brought him happiness.
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>>150610705
Anyone who thought that wasn't paying attention to the story.
Even putting aside the Zeppeli name, Johnny literally introduces Gyro by saying "He was a mystery from beginning to end".
It couldn't be made more obvious.
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>>150610766

I'm not saying deep stuff is bad, but Eva tried to do much more than it actually could
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>>150610749
>he cant understand words
oo boy, retard alert. (◔◡◔)
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>>150610007
Why is this a thing? When did Lazy Town become a meme? Why are there multiple videos of BtD repeatedly looping the song We Are Number One? I have so many questions
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>>150610798
> a lot of jojo fans actually appreciate the deeper stuff in the series,
>deep stuff in the series
dont explain more. i now know the memers i am dealing with.
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>>150609932
Great Days (BITE ZA DUSTO) version and Roundabout

>>150610092
>I think Angelo at least separates himself a bit from someone like J.Geil because of his Stand and the way he utilizes it, he's very competent for a villain-of-the-week
J. Geil was better in my opinion. Hanged Man is a pretty neat stand. Not sure if I like it more than Aqua Necklace or not
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>>150610841
>goo goo autist maymay
>words

You give yourself much too much credit :^O
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>>150610803
Likewise, could've sworn there was a JoJo/Touhou thread on /jp/ at some point though, shame most of the place is a shithole.
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>>150610881
>Durr jojo's only manly men posing, there's no such thing as characters or themes in the entire series! XD Jojo is so shit, am I right? megumim monday when
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Any more uncensored shots?
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>>150610881
You mean retards like you?
Yeah, you're a pretty low tier fan. Can't even understand a shounen plot
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>>150610909
still better than having shit taste.
( っ )
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>>150610841
>>150610909
>>150610984
Can you two fuck already? Never seen shitposters that were made THIS much for eachother before.
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>>150610766
EVA ran out of budget and just scrambled together cut scenes and made something even they didn't understand, and braindead fans interpreted the desperation of a studio to "deepness"

There is nothing deep in EVA, it's just a copout because didn't know how to end it and just made a mess
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>>150610901
Hanged Man is one of my favorite Stand designs
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>>150610984
You mean like you? ;^) that would be terrible
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>another thread with actual discussion got cancer'd

Great. We might as well have another BtD or threadception

>>150610964

What will P5 and 6 uncensored shots be like?
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>>150611010
I like the abilityjust not the way the stand lookssmh
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>>150610967
>Can't even understand a shounen plot
>SHOUNEN """"PLOT""""
are you the type of people who watch capeshit?
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>>150611003

If thats how you interpret Eva you're honestly dumb as fuck because what they had really wasn't hard to understand. To just discard and worse, ignore it as "lol no budget dussnt mean anything rly" makes you look like the biggest shithead in the room desu
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>>150611055
Ignore the cancer senpai, just keep discussing. I'm just wondering how Killer Queen's victims will look uncensored in the BDs, already remember the guy Kira blew up and swerved on had his eye bulging out of his head even through the censor.
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>>150611054
if you were like, you would have better taste :).
but you have shit taste ;-;
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>>150611085
>watch
>capeshit
>bad game meme image

Wew that's a poor post.
Keep on droolin' friend
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>>150611144
>no argument found
tell us how deep jojo and BVS is?
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>>150611117
Don't clench your teeth too hard :^)
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>>150611190
>not an argument
>implying I wasted my money on going to the movie theater to see any Americunt film
Thanks for buckling and posting an /a/ image tho ;^)
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>>150611087
So how do you defend the fact that almost everyone who makes a "What happened at the end of Eva" video has different opinions and it all just boils down to waifu-faggotry in the end?

It's just "le 3deep5me imagery" with no actual depth or actual explanation to it
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>>150611010

I like the design, but what's with the robot thing on its head?

>>150611112

They'll probably look the same except for that guy who got his ears ripped off, since it's not tearing them appart but disintegrating them.
I wonder how will Kira's real death look like in the TV release
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>>150610667
>brandy Brendo
oh duwang
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>>150611239
>still wont tell about the depth of MEME SERIES JOJO.
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>>150611250
This. If you have to rely on interviews and shit from outside the series, it means that there wasn't enough inside of the series to make any real conclusion.

That's not deep at all, unless every open ended anime is just as deep.
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>>150611258
I have hopes that the censoring won't botch it, it'll also probably be perfectly animated looking back at how good the hands were on episode 17.
>>150611239
>Still replying to shitposters
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>>150611283
>being too dumb to get it in the first place
>lel maymay Xd

Sad :^)
Could your parents not afford tutoring?
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>>150611197
dont strain your asshole :|
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>>150611258
>I wonder how will Kira's real death look like in the TV release
You mean the ambulance or the being torn apart by ghost hands?
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>>150611348
But anon, I was taking a dump for half of this :^)
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>>150611358
Ambulance is gonna be censored
>with the hands hell just crumble away like a cookie with like bright red on the inside
its whats gonna happen screen cap this
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>>150610919
You seem like a good guy. You got steam profile?
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>>150611340
>cant give an argument
>le maymay
looks like your tutoring didnt help you? still on 4chan with garbage taste.
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>>150610667

Early Josuke was literally Jotaro with stupid hair.
Also

>Kujo zefu

Was that his real name?

>>150611296

I hope that too, but maybe it'll be too grotesque for TV

>>150611358

Ghost hands
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>>150611445
Not an argument
;^P
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>>150600948
>>150601146
The pastebin is still alive and will continue to be updated
>http://pastebin.com/CJPJP2Hi
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>>150611258
>what's with the robot thing on its head?
Araki probably thought it looked cool
that's how every single design work, He thought it looked cool
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>>150611493

Would the thread get purged if we just posted a pic with the link instead of the actual link?
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>>150611433
You do too, and I've got steam, mind linking yours though?
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>>150611420
I dont remember the ambulance being gory at all
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>>150611488
>shit taste faggot defeated
feels good
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>>150610803
>>150610700
Look at this fucking Weaboos, president Valentine.
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>>150611550
Dont give the mods a reason to totally purge us from existence
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>>150611483
Sadao Kujo was his name
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>>150611542

I know, a cyborg mummy looks both cool and bizarre
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>>150611550
Probably, I think it should be posted as a spoiler if it's requested in the thread or just link to the archive. Until the mods lighten up a bit at least
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>>150611596
Not an argument p^=
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>>150611607

Thanks, I knew it sounded weird

>>150611622

Would a link to an archive post with the pastebin link work?
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>>150610826
I think you need to reread the part. The death of Perla is what impacted Pucci's character the most.
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>>150611690
>http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/150569686/#150577267
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>>150611568
gee http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198152076647/
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>>150611740

Now let's hope the thread doesn't get killed. If that doesn't work we should try a pic with a link to the archived post with the pastebin
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>>150609592
Agreed, my biggest gripe also

>>150611707
Maybe at the very start, but 90%of the rest is muh Dio
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>>150611856
>90% is muh Dio
You're fucking retarded, speedreader.
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>>150611856
That's not how it's like at all.
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>>150609592
Congrats on the poor grasp of character bruv
Why even post?
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>>150611420
Apparently nipland has a problem with cars hitting people for some reason. Anyway, refresh my memory, do we ever actually see Kira get ran over by the amberlamps or is it just his dying body mumbling about how he's going to push the switch?
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>>150611856
speedreaders are literally the worst
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>>150611707
Yeah, and he immediately sucked DIO's vampire cock instead of getting on with life. He was DIO's thrall from the very beginning. His work is a continuation of DIO's work
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>>150611998
You're an idiot
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>>150611998
(You)
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>>150612020

>>150612020

>>150612020
>>
So what do you think was going through Koichi's head moments before BtD killed him?

>inb4 an explosion lol
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>>150611913
>>150611918
>>150611978

>ad hominem wah wah

It literally is 90% muh Dio. We never see him describe his heaven in detail, we never see events in his life that set him down this path (instead we have his sister dying then he instantly becomes glorified Vanilla Ice 2.0). He doesn't have separate motivations. He never grows and develops as a character because all his actions in the story are basically following Dio's iPhone reminders list.
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>>150611978
>speedreaders are the problems
>niplanders are the problem
>other boards are problem
>everything is problem
may be the fault lies in the series?
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>>150612054
pucci literally never follows dio's plans
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>>150611969
I dont think we ever see the ambulance hitting him
we see it getting close and in the next panel hes already runned over
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>>150612068
>>150612054
>retards

Very sad :^)
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>>150612153
>Araki loved Kira too much to even kill him on panel
lol
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>150612180
ok
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>>150612124
Is your next line gonna be "I was pretending to be retarded all along"? Almost every time he accomplishes anything of significance in the story he whines "yes... Dio... I am getting closer to your world!" or some bullshit

He literally steals Jotaro's memories to read Dio's plans as he is incapable of forming his own

>>150612180
Nice argument
>>
Is it low quality baiting time since the thread is dying?
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>>150612201
Well he did not spared no expense in showing how his soul was ripped to shreds
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>>150612207
>le not an argument

Not an argument
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>>150598541
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>>150612275
And then brought back as a swanky ghost detective with an invincible fruit knife
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>>150602545
>Jonathan
Only good because he's a counterpart to Dio
>Joseph
He' kind of annoying but the only reason i didn't drop part 2 so i guess he's alright. Way better in part 3
>Jotaro
I thought he was boring at first but he really is the most badass jojo so he becomes a great supporting character in part 4 and 6
>Josuke
I like him. Not really much to say about him.
>Giorno
I don't know, i fell he's sort of boring. Mostly because i didnt found his motives relatable enough. He has the backstory at the begining and then he just forgets about it, also he doesn't have too much conection to the other characters and doesn't feel like part of the group.
>Jolyne
I like her a lot
>Johnny
Best jojo by far
>Gappy
I like him a lot
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>>150612440
>typical part 7 tard post
fuck off
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>>150612555
>Part x fag
Fuck off
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>>150602913
>>150602938
>>150609655
>>150612440

SBR-fags is one of worst problems in this fanbase. Most of the people who love SBR doesn't even know why, they just follow this stupid collective behavior of praising part 7.

Johnny is not even close to be what all the "jojos" stood for. He's a whiny, crying bitch most of the time who just happens to got a powerful stand. Shit happens. The only change he had was that he was able to magically walk at the end of SBR.

Also, Gyro is NOT even close to be a protagonist either. The only brojo who really could divide the protagonist spotlight was Bucciarati, and even like this, he never stole the position from Giorno.
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>>150613685
Very interesting bait
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>150613685
ok
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