Any reason why she tolerates koyomi relationship with crab?

>>150518516
Shinobu Love confirms that she is also in love with Hitagi

>>150518516
because she knows ararararagi will probably outlive bipolar STD and then she'll be able to keep him for herself

>>150518569
Which novel is that?

Because she and Araragi share a stronger bond.

>>150518516

Pretty sure she also likes Crab and is totally fine with whatever they do together.

>>150518777
The one show she confirms that she loves Hitagi

Playing the long game as only an immortal can

>>150518569
How many of the LN's are translated?

>>150518516
She is playing the long term game. Once Crab dies, the war is won

>>150519683

> Still following the "araragi is going to live significantly longer than a normal person" meme.

There's really no basis for this, if you just judge by what vampire power Araragi has now ((garbage healing ability compared to when he was full vamp and slightly enhanced eyesight)), it's not really likely that he'd live way longer than normal.

>>150518516
Because she knows how desperately Araragi wants to be human and stopping him from having romances/a family is depriving him of a very fundamental part of human life. Probably.

She is a cuck.

>>150518569
That's bullshit but I believe it

>>150518516
Because he is her master and does whatever he wants.

>>150518516
Because she knows how short lived a crab life is.

Shinobu is a bro and understands that a man should never be restricted to just one woman

>>150519816
>garbage healing ability
Nigga still has better regen than Dramaturg. Also he may just start turning again, because of him feeding Shinobu constantly.

It's an easy question. It's because she loves him. It's because she cares about him. It's been mentioned mutipile times that Shinobu is letting Araragi live his life as humanly as possible before crossing over to the life of a monster/vampire. Shinobu can tolerate Crab, Cat, Monkey because they are human. But when Doll kissed him, Shinobu showed clear disapproval of it. She even went as far as calling in a betrayel towards her and not crab. And that is because Doll is a kai and not a human. In other words a being with a greater lifespan then a human. Even though Shinobu tolerates it, there were times even she showed that she still didn't like that.

>There was even a short story where Shinobu suddenly showed up out of his shadow and told him thag he pays way to much attention to other girls and that he shouldn't since he a "woman" like her. "I remember you saying something reaaaaly cool like that you were going to die together with me"

It's because she cares about his happiness that she tolerates it for now.

>>150518516
She's an old-fashioned woman.

>>150525091

> Still has better regen than Dramaturgy

Is that established? I'm talking Araragi without having his blood taken by Shinobu to up his regen powers, normally it's pretty slow.

Because she knows she and her pet will outlive crab so she's gonna be nice and let her have her fleeting moment

>>150528221
Even without a powerup and while weakened from his normal amount during Tsuki he was able to mend completely shattered bones in only a minute or two. I think the most seriously he's been injured without Shinobu interfering was right after meeting Black Hanekawa for the first time, but I don't remember the exact details of his wounds.

>>150528379

Pretty sure in Tsuki it's revealed that his constant fighting against Nadeko had made his vampire powers become stronger than normal to the point where he may actually turn into a vamp again. And that after the events of that arc are over, he goes back to his 'normal' amount of strength.

>>150528719
His vampire powers were significantly weaker than normal then because they were his own and not borrowed from Shinobu. It's a pretty major point from when they were investigating it.

>>150528719
Not him, time to pseudo-science this. If we assume that regenerative powers are biological in nature i.e the time of the wounds isn't just turned back, then it would stand to reason that his regenerative powers are always active. We only die of old age because our bodies can only accumulate so much damage, if he could regenerate even 25% of his body cells he'd live much longer than average.

because she knows she's best girl and has nothing to fear

>>150528865
brainlet pls. if that's the cause he'd just get cancer really easily.

She's lived long enough to not to get jealous from petty things, but if she really gets jealous she can just suck him off in his sleep and they'd both become immortal vampires again, forever.

She also loves and respects Araragi and knows the bond they share goes deeper than romance so she wants to let him live his life and enjoy human things since she never could.

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Because it works like that in a world of adults, you little faggot.

Her contract with Araragi was arranged like marriage but he's in love with another woman and fucks with her instead.

>>150528789
>borrowed from Shinobu
Stop talking.

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Liru would be an excellent Secretary of State.

I wonder how does she feel when he walks Senjougahara home gently.

>>150528789
Shiobu by sucking his blood turned Araragi into a vampire. There are two ways a vampire can suck blood for an human:
>Sucking all the blood prevents the victim from turning into a vampire. Only for feeding
>When a vampire wants to make a servant (which must don't want too) not all the blood is sucked out. This is what happend to Araragi.

Araragi became a vampire with his own vampire powers thanks to Kiss-shot. It's not a power he borrowed from her, it's his own.

In Tsukimonogatari his vampire nature starts building op because he has been using it too much.
>His vampire powers were significantly weaker than normal then because they were his own and not borrowed from Shinobu

This is bullshit. If Araragi were too trurn back into a complete vampire, he would be as strong as he was in Kizu. And this would also give Shinobu her power back.

>>150518516
What does Shinobu feel, when Araragi is getting his cock stroked, his balls licked and his anus fingered by Senjougahara?

>>150529569
>She doesn't like it.
But i wonder how Crab feels about the fact that Araragi doesn't grow old together with her and already plans on being with someone else for most of his life, both in the world of the living and in hell. How does Crab feel about Araragi being with someone where even death cannot do them apart. How does it feel that you will never be #1 in his heart. Must suck.

it's our year la

>>150518516
She won already, crab is but a sneeze in their long life time. You can say that we don't know how long Arararararagi is going to live but we do know they are bound for life and bat will live way longer than a human because she is still a strong vampire.

Now here is my theory to back that up, we know that if Ararararagi dies, bat goes berserk and destroys the world right? So its safe to assume that he will stay alive until bat decides to die, so in the end its up to bat to decide their fate. And Ararararagi will probably do his best to stay alive as long as he can to make sure the world stays safe. I don't think he likes Hitagi to the point where he'd risk the rest of the world for it.

>>150529472

> Sucking all the blood prevents the victim from turning into a vampire.

Really? I thought for vamps in the monogatari world they had to eat victim in their entirety otherwise they'd come back as a vamp?

>>150530195
Can't Araragi turn her into a vampire?

>>150531769

> bat goes berserk and destroys the world right?

I think that only happened in that timeline because he was actually murdered because of her absence during the Hanekawa cat thing, right? I imagine Araragi died of old age she wouldn't be as traumatized or angry.

As it is, I don't think she'd still go on a rampage anyway, after seeing how pitiful she was in the alternate timeline.

>>150531913

He isn't technically a vampire, so no.

I'm not even sure Shinobu could do it in her current state, but even if she could, Araragi seems very opposed to the idea of living for a long time, so I can't really see him turning Senjougahara after all he did to get out of being a vampire in Kizu.

>>150531930
Will Bat even allow araragi to die of old age? Can he even age to the point where he starts to grow weaker? I always assumed that such normal human things were impossible for him now. Sure we don't know if he is immortal but isn't the whole deal about him not being able to live a normal human life anymore?

>>150531913
Crab would never go for that. She hates the supernatural.

>>150532158

> Will Bat even allow Araragi to die of old age?

Shinobu isn't the powerhouse she used to be, and their bond seems to be more Araragi affecting her than her affecting Araragi, even the power boosts she gives him are short term most of the time, so I'm not sure she even could stop Araragi from ageing.

That being said, I don't think Araragi would WANT Shinobu to stop his ageing either, as far as we've seen, Araragi wants to live a normal life, or at least as normal as he can manage, and it feels like Shinobu would know that Araragi wouldn't be happy if she forcibly prolonged his life. People always bring up the whole "Araragi wants to die with Shinobu" thing, but that doesn't mean he wants to live 500 years, he just wants to be with Shinobu when he dies.

>>150531836
I remember Oshino saying this.

>>150518516
BECAUSE SHES THE BEST FUCKING GIRL

>>150535165

I think it was back in Kizu when either Kisshot or Oshino said that, if you suck someones blood, they turn into a vampire without question, so if you don't want that, you need to eat the whole body otherwise they'll just revive.

>>150531769
That's wrong, since Shinobu has seen that timeline a repeat if it won't happen. Because Shinobu clearly dispised what she did in that timeline. But i can understand how the Shinobu would destroy the world in Route X.

You have to understand that in route X in those circumstances Araragi and Shinobu were both (less with Araragi) angry at the other. Kiss-shot has lived almost her whole life isolated from public, and not for a few years or anything, 300-400 years is the number.

Kiss-shot or rather Shinobu after Kizu was forced by Araragi to liv (wether Kiss-shit wanted to die were her real feelings or not doesn't matter now) But Araragi was everything to her, her whole world, the reason she is not killing herself. Bacause you have to remember that Ararago basiscly vowd to her at the end of Kizu
>If you die, I will die with you.
Shinobu doesn't want him to die. So she can't kill herself. While Kiss-shot may be 598 years old she has a habit of acting childdish around Araragi since she wants his attention. Shinobu ran away because of she wanted his attention, but Araragi was paying more attention to other people then to her (Crab, Cat, Monkey, Ghost)

So she ran away because she wanted him to find her. I think she was beginning to doubt wether Araragi really cared about her as who she is or only feels some responsibilty towards. But in route X there was no Ghost to warn Araragi that Shinobu had run away, so he never searched for her. Araragi probably died by the hands of black Hanekawa. And while he was dying Shinobu could feel it, she could feel their connection slowly weaking until there was nothing left and she was all alone again (real sad, I can even imagine what that must have been like). It's no wonder she went in a rage and destroyed the world.

>>150535835
And because Araragi died, Shinobu regained her powers. So she can't even kill herself to be with Araragi because she is immortal on a ridiculous level. And this was after she destroyed the world. She hated this world who had wronged her for her whole life and took every little thing away for her.

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because she already has him right where she wants him.

>>150535263
So basically they always become vamp, but normally are immediately killed...

>>150529146
cuck

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>>150537312
Bat?
Sure.

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>>150529380
must feel good for her too

araragi and senjougahara are both committing pedophilia inadvertently

>>150518516
She feels everything Arararagi feels so she also kind of has feelings for crab. Also crab will die in like 70 years while both of them will live forever.

Basically she is a cuck

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>Kills Araragi to sever his link with Shinobu so the latter can be installed as a god
>Expects Shinobu to be completely okay with this

Was it autism?

>>150538696
She also expected Shinobu to kill him when the connection was gone. She expected the woman who could have at one point in time destroyed the world because it took away the person she considered to be her world.

>>150539283
>messed up
She expected the woman who could have at one point in time destroyed the world because it took away the person she considered to be her world to kill that man.

Genius

>>150518516
Because Koyomi tolerates crab's relationships with fat old men

>>150537312
>Cuck
is considered the person he cares for the most, together both alive and even together in hell eventually.

>>150518516
What we don't see is that when Ararararagi fucks Hitagi, bat fucks Hitagi with him. They are both in a relationship with Crab, there is no dispute because Shinobu and Arararagi are as one. Crab is the special guest on a already existing and established relationship, they probably take turns fucking her and Crab probably helps Ararargi please bat after he is done with her, since after feeling everything Araragi feels while having sex, bat must get super horny. Why don't we have doujins of this is the better question.

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>>150518516
Because Shinobu is best girl.

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She knows he loves her the most.

Didn't Araragi just fucking died at the end of koyomi monogatari?

>>150540178
>being so much of a secondary retard that you don't know that Monogatari is based on a series of LNs
wow

>>150540516
yeah i know that, but since I didn't read them I was asking if that's really how he dies, or if he comes back to life or whatever

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>>150538696
>Gaen survives this

>>150540178
Nigga, the only person that really died in monogatari was that het-priest from Kizu, Pizzacutter or some shit. And Kisshot's former bf. But he didn't really die.

>>150538696
She's playing 4D chess while everyone else is playing Checkers.
Her expecting Shinobu to kill Araragi is just one of the many moves she expects her opponents to take.
Also she hasn't watched Monogatari to know how well the trip to Route X worked.

>>150540715
Kissshot didn't fuck with him. She is a virgin.

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>>150540840
>implying no one has managed to tap that prime vampire pussy for 600 years

>>150540932
Read her back story faggot. She was cursed. Nobody could touch her. Her curse is gone now but she still has dangerous beauty.

>>150541050
There is nothing to suggest she isn't bullshitting us with her backstory.

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>>150541050
>Her curse is gone now but she still has dangerous beauty.
>Samurai bf has no problems with that shit
>Meme has no problem with it and steals her heart
>autistic jap teenager overcomes it easily and more shocked by her being limbless

And you saying that some Chad couldn't tap that if he wanted to? And no such person were present during her 600 years of life?

>>150541206
She? Her backstory was told by Deathtopia.

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>>150529472
You can say it's bullshit all you want, but that's how Nisio said it works.

>>150541242
Yes, she has been alone for most of those 600 years. Why do you think she is suicidal. You try being alone for 400 years. She was being praised as a godness, if you think that people at that time could ''just tap that'' that my friend you are a new bred of retard.

>>150541242
Meme and Samurai are specialists. Also Samurai thought she was a god. Who would fuck a god? Who would fuck the legendary vampire?
Her charming beauty works perfect for Araragi when she is not limbless and crying.

>>150541388
Deathtopia is also female.

Either way I still can't find myself believing it, the story sounds too outlandish even for Monogatari.

>>150541485
>Why do you think she is suicidal
You can still feel like shit and lonely even while getting some pussy on the side, m8. Priorities and stuff.
>if you think that people at that time could ''just tap that''
>what is nobility
i'm not talking about some lowlife peasants, m8.

>>150541468
It's bullshit but it doesn't matter after his reviving. How Gaen managed to restore their link? Did Kissshot turn Araragi and he sucked her blood again? This part of the book isn't translated yet.

>>150541583
>Who would fuck a god?
I would, but that besides the point. Sheisiro (the samurai dude) had a relationship with her, whcih made her turn him into a servant.
>inb4 but you can be in a relationship and don't have sex
m8

>>150541840
He hadn't any romantic relationships with her.

>>150541468
First of all
>borrowed from Shinobu
This line alone makes you the biggest shitposter of all. Stop talking out your ass while lying about your sources. Araragi's vamparic nature was increasing because he has increasing his vamparic nature by having Shinobu suck his blood and fight Nadeko.

The vampire powers he gained in Kizu are his own powers and he technically still has those power, bit it is surpressed. If the connection between Araragi and Shinobu were to be broken, then he would regain the power he had in Kizu. He is not developing his own.

>>150541686
She is pure anon, accept it.
Or go make some Crab thread and stay there. Go shitpost there please.

>>150541919
>If the connection between Araragi and Shinobu were to be broken, then he would regain the power he had in Kizu.
Except that exact thing happened in Oni and he got weaker. Please, please, rewatch the fucking series and don't play LoL while you're doing it this time.

>>150541840
>whcih made her turn him into a servant.
Because she didn't want to be alone, so was desperate.

Why do retards try so hard to argue that Shinobu isn't a virgin? What pleasure is there to be derived from seeing a character as not a virgin? I don't get it. Is it a genuine cuckoldry fetish?

>>150541991
Is this bait? If their connection had been completely broken during Oni then Shinobu would have regained her full power my dear retarted anon. No that did not happen and why, because while their connection was weakend, it was not broken.

When their connection is completey gone, Shinobu would regain her powers and in turn would Araragi.

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Is it right to call them soulmates?
It's more than nailing Crab or grabbing Cats boobs.

>>150541991
>Except that exact thing happened in Oni and he got weaker
Your secondary is showing anon.

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Will she live forever?

>>150541840
He had a professional relationship with her. Like two electricians who know each other and sometimes work on jobs together. This was notable to Kiss-Shot because it was the most meaningful relationship she'd had in over a century, but it was still pretty shallow. Then Kurayami hit and she was alone and afraid and wanted company and felt guilty for getting him eaten, so she turned him. After that, Seishirou got in a fight with her, refused to talk with her, and eventually killed himself while cursing her name. There's no reason to think they had sex.

>>150542826
Yes. We all believe you've read and understood the untranslated novels with your whole week in the DJT.

>>150543318
And now she is so happy with Araragi. It makes me happy too.

she's a cuck

>>150541991
>>150542217
>Except that exact thing happened in Oni and he got weaker
>You got me triggered by this
The fucking point of their connection at the end of Kizu was so that both their powers would be surpressed. That's the whole point of the connection. So how did you think that by breaking their connection would make them weaker? Did you really think that? And you have to guts to tell I need to "rewatch"(filthy secondary) the series. Maybe you need to take your own advice since you even got your basics wrong, idiot.

If we go by your logic then the connection between them would not even be needed. It serves the purpose to surpress Araragi's vamparic nature so that he can live as humanly as possible ans surpress Shinobu's vamparic mature so that she does not have to eat humans.

If their connection is broken, Shinobu would regain her power and so would Araragi. Get your facts straight anon. Their connection was not broken in Oni.

>>150543409
Nice damage control. Go reread/rewatch the series.

>>150543302
No, she'll probably end up killing herself. She only lasted 600 years before nearly letting herself be killed due to depression.
At best she'll last like another 600 years tops.

It must be hard to be haunted with the memory of the man who saved you, dying.
I mean just look at Kaiki, Tooe's death turned him into an autist.

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>>150543768

>>150543824
>mean just look at Kaiki, Tooe's death turned him into an autist.
*Most based man in the universe
>No, she'll probably end up killing herself. She only lasted 600 years before nearly letting herself be killed due to depression.
What if nearly committing suicide makes her rethink wanting to die like it would any rational person?

>>150543824
If Araragi does die before Shinobu then she would want to die right with him. Let's say 100 years later when there is nothing to stop Araragi and Shinobu. I could see Araragi and Shinobu increasing their vamparic nature now and then for some "catching up" time. They would get closer and closer to being immortal.

Araragi will never consider dying before Shinobu.

Kizu 2 soon guys.

>>150544034
But anon, Oshino exists and he's much better than Kaiki.
Shit, even Araragi that failure is a better person than Kaiki.

Also if nearly dying would make her reconsider her position, she should have reconsidered it when the Darkness nearly killed her.

>>150544168
Araragi is not going to live to be 100. As much as people want that to be a thing, he's going to live a normalfag life with his normalfag girlfriend with his normalfag college years, getting a normalfag job.

>>150543986
There is no going back man, You got your basics wrong and told me i needed to rewatch.

>Araragi and Shinobu's connection is broken.
>They get weaker.
>Ignoring the basics of the basics in this story
>I might be even more stupid to talk with someone who has not even readt Kizu.

>>150544168
>Araragi will never consider dying before Shinobu.
I mean, he genuinely, seriously wants to die alongside Shinobu, but let's face it: he's totally gone off and done straight-up suicidal shit without thinking about her.

>>150544279
Except you're still wrong about the basics of basics about the story, so I can only assume you're trying for a 2005-era bait.

If Araragi and Shinobu feel everything the other does, won't that result in a feedback loop of neverending orgasms?

>>150544259
>Araragi is not going to live to be 100.
I think he is definitly gonna reach 100 though. Reaching 100 should be not that hard for him. And it's up to Nisio if it's true that he will live 500 years or not. Right now it's 50-50

>>150544353
Thats why they scare to fuck.

>>150544353
It only goes from Araragi to Shinobu, and it looks to be only partial. Though she just might be super used to pain so she can feel Araragi getting eviscerated and not even flinch.

>>150544259
>Also if nearly dying would make her reconsider her position, she should have reconsidered it when the Darkness nearly killed her.

Nearly getting killed by something and wanting to get killed by something are two completely different things.

>>150544259
>Araragi is not going to live to be 100. As much as people want that to be a thing, he's going to live a normalfag life with his normalfag girlfriend with his normalfag college years, getting a normalfag job.

Have you seen his parents? Even if no supernatural was involved he wouldn't be capable of leading what someone calls an "average" life.

>>150544345
>Except you're still wrong about the basics of basics about the story, so I can only assume you're trying for a 2005-era bait.
You are still not giving up on this shitpost. you are wrong, fucking accept it man. And if you think i am wrong, then explain because the onlyt thing you have been doing is shitposting and talking out your ass.

>>150518569
Someone can confirm this?

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>>150544551
This is the last one buddy.

>>150544259
>But anon, Oshino exists and he's much better than Kaiki.
Oshino is a literal turd, so no.

>>150544372
Shinobu's hypothetical in Nisemonogatari was merely a talking point between the two to give them a situation in which they would have to accept each-other out of necessity if Araragi still wished to continue on with his current path even knowing it could possibly fuck him.

Shinobu herself doesn't actually think Araragi is going to live that long, given Yozuru's assessment of Araragi also tells us that he's basically a human and Oshino backed up that same point in Bakemonogatari.
Combining that with NisiO's overarching plot thread of living an normal life is the best option, we can tell that Araragi is bound for normalfaggotry.

Though that really does make me appreciate Oshino's attempts and getting Araragi to become an exorcist.
He understands that Araragi even as a normalfag will still need to help people and trying to give him the tools to do it is a solid back-up plan for Araragi's continued existence.

It's funny that the characters that are explicitly the most removed from society (The Gaen Network) are the ones that most heavily promote living a normal life even though Yozuru is happy with how she lives, Gaen is fucking loaded and Tadatsuru can play with his dolls and immortal oddities for the rest of time.

>>150544581
There's no story called Shinobu Love. Anon was bullshitting you.

>>150544834
Oh too bad then. It would have been cute.

>>150518569
Threesome fucking when

>>150544662
It's sad man. Instead of backing up your claims about me being in the wrong you continue to show me that you had no idea what you were talking about:>>150541991
>Except that exact thing happened in Oni and he got weaker. Please, please, rewatch the fucking series and don't play LoL while you're doing it this time.
>Except that exact thing happened in Oni and he got weaker.
>implying their connection got broken in Oni
>When their connection is broken, both should regain their vamparic nature. This doesn't happen.
>Still believes he is right
>Continues shitposting in order to hide his embarrassment.

>>150544765
I guess after reading Kizu, i am desperate for a Shinobu end. Blame Nisio.

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she likes crabs donuts

>>150545194
Araragi is 100% Shinobu man. Don't worry.

>>150518516
She's a pervert who wants to rape everything with a pulse like Araragi too, that's why.

>>150544034
>Most based man in the universe
The guy is a mopey loser who acts more like a depressed teenager than several of the actual depressed teenagers in this series. Tooe actually tells Kanbaru in Suruga Bonehead to pass a message onto Kaiki the next time she sees him - that he should stop being a depressed shit and move on with his life already.

He had a vested interest in acting the way he does during Hitagi End (to assist Kanbaru & Senjougahara), but the way he normally acts is spelled out to the viewer in Karen Bee & Tsukihi Phoenix - where he tries to get Koyomi's sister killed over Koyomi getting mixed up in and then obstructing one of schoolyard scams.

This isn't me hating on his character, he outright isn't "based" and he's not supposed to be. The Specialists are all types of people Koyomi could end up turning into and Kaiki is pretty bluntly portrayed as a "bad end Koyomi" of sorts.

If Kiss Shot is so powerful, and has killed/eaten people, then who's to say she hasn't raped a few guys?

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I want to pat my waifu on the head!

>>150545497
Something something purity.

>>150545497
She kills to survive and nothing else. The handful of times she actually messed up someone's life without a solid reason she felt super guilty about it forever.