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New Vivid Strike episode is soon. Talk about Fuuka and how badly she will hurt Rinne.
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>>150484331
A neko like her won't be able to top anyone.
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>>150484501
This kitty has claws.
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>>150484331
As much as Corona against Einhart. And It will end the same.
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>>150484725
I don't think it will, they love to change shit up and do the unexpected.
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>>150484765
What even is unexpected at this point? It'd make sense for either Fuuka or Rinne to win.
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>>150484331
Whew, that picture. That has already beaten Rinne in moe.
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>>150484812
If Rinne won, then they would have to handle the Einhart match for championship, while they can just gloss over it if Fuuka wins, since the tournament is not important anymore.

And if there had to be Rinne-Einhart stuff, then it would take away yet more time/focus from Fuuka who is already quite deprived. So I hope they didn't do that. They didn't give Einhart much space yet (none in fights), so actually fielding her now at this point would be weird.

Damn, I want more of her in Vivid.
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>>150484949
>they would have to handle the Einhart match for championship
Not really, they can just gloss over it in this case too. Everyone knows that Einhart would be the one winning after all.
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>>150485054
If they omitted it, it would be sloppy as hell. And even Deus Ex Machina.
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Let's get this shit started.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11787075
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>>150485296
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11787075
WUT, no votes for Fuuka but 2 for Rinne? I only didn't vote for her because there was the "not this ep" option.
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So after watching Vivid Strike I decided to go back and watch the original Nanoha series. I am currently on episode 7 of Season 3. I fail to see what made this show so popular. It literally is just a bland magical girl show with bad scenery. Granted I have not watched the movies yet and I am not going to read the manga.

Can someone tell me why this was deemed amazing? I'm not saying it is god awful but it is just kinda meh. I'm enjoying Vivid Strike more than the original.
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>>150484331
Fugly Huracan.
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I want Rinne's anal muscles to grip tightly around my dick as I bust deep inside her butt.
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I'm super hyped for this episode. I hope they don't fuck it up.
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>>150486091
It sucks that it was not very "fleshed out". Basically Fabia came, said "hey this is yours", then Fuuka tried the transformation, done. They didn't spend almost no attention on the device, which is kinda waste. Well, that is kind of symptomatic for the problem with Fuuka's role.
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>>150486653
That's because the episode was about Rinne, like most other episodes. They had to find some time to give Fuuka her device so they stuck it on the end of the Rinne backstory and padded it out by having everyone do their transformation sequences.
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>>150486653
Not like there is much to tell about it anyway.
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My waifu > your waifu
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>>150486784
Yes such a cute little mother fucker who doesn't give a single fuck.
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>>150486947
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>>150486947
>>150487180
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>>150487582
He's too busy fucking the loli dog and reading books to do that.
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How long till the fubata thread?
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>>150487582
That doesn't even make sense.
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Vivio?
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>>150488115
>>150488136
Can someone explain this meme to me?
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>>150487582
Stealing their dirty panties is not what "virginity" stands for, Yuuno.
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>>150487912
It could be consistent in context of that forbidden incest doujin, being said to Vivio.
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>>150485849
Strikers starts off incredibly slow. You're just about to hit Teana's character arc, which is pretty good.
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>>150488437
That's a yuri doujin, anon.
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>>150488515
I mean, Nanoha would be Vivio's mom and waifu simultaneously, so that utterance would be meaningful under the dreadful premise that Yunno and Nanoha did it.
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>>150488401
It's far too complicated to explain
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>>150485849
It's a lot of nostalgia. For it's time, it was pretty good and rather "unique". Today, it's more or less the run of the mill mahou shojou if we're talking pre-Madoka trope popularity boost.
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I miss my beam spam and zenryoku zenkai.
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New comparison batch
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>>150489507
They gave her those gay flowers.
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So basically they just fixed the eyes, added blushes and sparkles, and generally made everyone cuter.
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>>150489824
I feel like the tv version looks better
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5 mins
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>>150489852
I appreciate that they're trying to make the girls cuter and the series gayer, but I think some of the BD changes look worse too, I feel like they're sometimes just changing things just for the sake of making it different.
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Can someone post the jap thread?
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>>150490306
futakuro: http://board.futakuro.com/jk2/res/3450392.htm
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>>150490431
Thank you friend
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>>150489507
Wow, Nanoha's sparklingwet.
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Rinne a shit. A SHIT.

Literally worst girl 2016.
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>>150489724
I don't miss those eyes.
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From what I can tell, Fuuka ain't doing so hot right now.
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>>150490588
Great she's gonna go apeshit again.
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That's a face full of GUTS
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>>150490306
also futaba thread: http://may.2chan.net/b/res/450044542.htm

>dat Saki post.
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>Rio
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;_;
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Stop! You're hurting her!
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>>150490758
Jill knows she fucked up (again).
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>>150490839
Bruh
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Fuck man I can't wait to watch the raw
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We get it, he's dead.
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>>150490948
Ugh...this artist sure does know how to make everybody look cute as hell
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>You didn't pull out?!
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>>150490987
Again with this flashback?
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we double KO now
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Angry loli fuula
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more flashbacks
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>>150491034
>>150491055
>>150491072
Bullshit. Get the fuck up Fuuka.
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Lubing up the fist for later
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Smile wasn't protected
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>>150491132
Starting early, huh
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>>150490948
>>150491060
>>150491091
>>150491093
>>150491117
>>150491188
DAMMIT cute.

>>150491055
Puffy.

>>150491132
Dude, use spoiler.
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Bitch tears
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I guess neither won yet.
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Aand the shitty fight still hasn't concluded
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>>150490837

I want my own Rinne to comfort ;_;
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>fuuka endcard

Fucker got this niggas
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>>150491256
Ooookay...
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Almost full season of shitting on Rinne. Just fucking stop it.
I hope Reflection buries franchise forever.
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Where's that raw at? I can't wait an entire day/
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>>150491321
>>150491345
I wonder if the last end card will have all of them together.
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>>150491321
>>150491345
INTENSE
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>>150491374
Will Reflection follow Gear of Destiny story?
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Double K.O. is going to happen. I can feel it.
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>>150484331

Screw that. Rinne deserves at least something good for all the bs she's had to endure.
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>Two whole episodes of beating each other.
This show isn't even like DBZ were the fighters are blocking and dodging they're straight up beating each other. These girls are going to be punch drunk after this fight aren't they.
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>[Ohys-Raws] ViVid Strike! - 10 (BS11 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4

Raw out
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comfy
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>>150491669
That's what I hope for. But they might have Fuuka break Scuderia.
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>>150490742
>>150490904
>>150491060
>>150491256
I want Fuuka to fuuk me
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>>150491669

Double Drop, first to rise wins!
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Dammit, I should have known it would be no conclusion.
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>>150492166

Yes. That's exactly what Rinne needs. Fuuka should preach down to her, about her grandfather, while she's at it.
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Full size version is too large to post.

https://yande.re/post/show/376414
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>>150491024
It's literally a trigger, every time she gets KOed, almost KOed, or think about getting KOed, she flashes back and starts wanting to vomit.
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>>150492528

that's a big scan
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>>150492528
They sure did fuck Nanoha up.
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>>150492528
What's up with the symmetrical Nanoha
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Rinne's VA sounds totally different.
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We Green Devil now.
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>>150492528
So, what does it say?
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Rinne is fucking gross
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>TFW Fuuka is a genuine prodigy who can use other people's techniques
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Can someone draw Fuuka and all her friends with all of their arms around them like that one football picture?
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Fuuka is a fucking baller. Rinnie ain't shit compared to her.
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>Rinne can't hold back anymore and is using her original voice
I'm putting my money on Rinne.
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>>150492868

I'd drink her bodily fluids like a sweet heavenly nectar it is
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They made some really good faces this episode.
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Both Fuuka and Rinne's reason to fight and win is so strong and inspiring, I can't tell who's going to win. Each speech and flashback that strengthens their respective plot armor are dead even.
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Please lord, let me hit her so hard that I smack some sense into her.
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She really does look a lot like Nanoha
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>>150493339

>IK-KKUUUUUU
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>>150492868
I'd lick her barf desu
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>>150484331
Hura actually looks cute here
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>>150493507
That's actually Fuuka dressed as Hura.
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Vivio's fight was better.
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>>150493557
>there are two Huras
>one for hug and one for fug
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>>150493600
>not fugging both
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>>150493619
Hura only has a single use. You better not.
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>>150493619
I'll take Fuuka-Hura, you take the device
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>>150493518
>You did pull out, r-right ?
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>Seig trying to look cool and professional
This feels so wrong.
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I thought they had saved the budget for this episode, but it was kinda shit honestly with the animation,
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Another episode of Rinne beating the fuck out of Fuuka will be great
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>>150494168
>it's shit
>way too much talking, way too little fighting
You don't understand a single words they say, do you? The bad animation part is true, though.
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>>150493619
Vivid cats are not for fugging!
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>>150494168
Fuuka's flashback was pretty good though. She remembers the good, unlike Rinne who only remembers the bad.
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>>150494181
Only when she redid the exact same moves she took during episode 1 (wow real subtle Vivid team). She got stomped the rest of the time.
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Fuuka really is Nanoha demon tier.
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>>150494298
Thanks anon, you give me hope now.
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>>150494168
>Battle was decent and intense
>Fuuka and Rinne engaged not only in physical battle, but also in battle of ideals
>Fleshing out Fuuka and Rinne's motivation and emotional strength
>Swaying between melancholy atmosphere and blissful times meshed well with the direction
Nah. It was pretty good.
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>>150494525
My main complain is Fuuka. She is quite powerful but we never really see her strength develop. Her fight against Rinne is her first real fight.
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Please give me a second season. I need more Fuuka in my life.
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Has Rinne used her hissatsu yet?
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Please remember to ignore "that" guy.

>>150494837
Probably won't happen, but a new season that focuses on the magical competition would be great.
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>>150494897
Fuuka deserves it more.
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>>150494897
>3rd movie most likely won't have Materials
This saddens me greatly.

And thus I still hold out for a GoD adaptation.
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>>150495121
Fuuka is the only good thing to happen to the Nanoha franchise in 10 years and you would deny her a second season?
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Why is Fuuka so fluffy?
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>>150495346
Super fluffy as a kid
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>shitty fight STILL hasn't concluded

Just when you thought this show couldn't get any worse
We all know Fucker is going to win jesus christ
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I want to protect Rinne's smile.
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Fuuka is more tanky than even Vivio. As expected of a Nanoha-like character.
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Art quality aside, next week fight looks like it will be pretty good. I like that Fuuka is trying to use her palm here.
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>>150496031
>Dem moves
Nice.

The beginning and end of the true fight. I am hyped. Let's see if it surpasses Vivio and Einhart's fight.
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>>150496266
Maybe this is where the budget went.
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>>150496266
>Vivio and Einhart's fight
>Einhart's fight
I want Einhart to have a fight too but it won't happen, anon. She is benched in this show.
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>>150496432
I meant Vivio and Einhart's street fight that happened in Vivid.

Einhart should have a match in the final episode for Strike though.
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>>150496523
I am a bit afraid she is going to loose to Fuuka.
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>>150496523
>Einhart should have a match which will either be skipped entirely or done away in less than a minute in the final episode for Strike though.
FTFY. It's episode 10 and her barrier jacket form still hasn't gotten added to the website. She is not going to have a proper match here.
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>>150496633
She will, Fuuka is a true prodigy.
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Thank God for Fuuka. Rinne is lucky to have her, even if she doesn't realize it yet.
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What the heck happened the day before that made Fuuka so scared?
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I was thinking. In Vivid Vivio is going to fight Nanoha in the near future. Of course she wont win but will probably put up a good fight and surprise her Mama. But wouldn't that mean Rinne and Fuuka are on a similar level? Are we to belief all these girls can put up a good fight against Nanoha?
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>>150499101
But /a/ told me that Sieglinde couldn't even win against the StrikerS crew.

/a/ wouldn't be wrong about powerlevels, would they?
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>>150499101
>but will probably put up a good fight and surprise her Mama
Only if her mama gives herself tons of handicaps, beginning with no flying or binding allowed and limiters down to Vivio magical power.
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>>150499101
Rinne may be able to get Nanoha excited like Einhart did back at the beginning of Vivid. Fuuka, on the other hand, has only been specifically taught martial arts these past few months. She doesn't know how to do binds, shoot beams, fly nor make a shield. Nanoha would obliterate her.
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>>150499426
>powerlevels
There lies your mistake.
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Now that Rinne told Fuuka to promise not to bother with her anymore if she wins, it's sure that Rinne won't win. I don't see Einhart being the one who will change her mindset.
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>>150496712
Einhart still receives foreshadowing. She'll fight someone, at least.

Maybe Einhart and Sieg will spare a bit, just for fun.
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There would be a lot of characters before her in my book, in a coolness list.

Besides the canonical two bosses, Zafira comes to mind (that voice!). Pre-Harunyan Einhart even, although you have to dig in for it because there are not much opportunities for that in Vivid.
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>>150499426
/a/ isn't person. Vivio with her saint armor beat the hell out of Nanoha in StrikerS. Sieg should be comparable. if not stronger than Vivio in Saint mode.
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Chinese translation for Vivid has caught up with Japanese raw.
Vivio and Miura's second fight is good as hell. Btw, if you haven't noticed, Miura is actually using her adult mode in this fight.
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Powerlevels you say?
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>>150500084
Who won?
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>>150500062
>Vivio with her saint armor beat the hell out of Nanoha in StrikerS
Nanoha beat her though
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>>150500061
Forgot to quote, eh. Meant for >>150499699
Zafy is so cool in my book that he even radiates badassness when he hands Vivio a towel when she washes her face. With his wolf-form maw.
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>>150499699
why is Feito-chan all blue
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>>150500110
Vivio has the same exact philosophy as Ginga.
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>>150500183
Nanoha won via willpower and the power of love.
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Say something nice about this hobo!
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>>150500173
See for yourself. https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4886020430
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>>150500110
Reposting because I fucked up the pic.
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>>150500384
>Having a brutal fight while smiling

Rinne could learn from that.
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>>150500384
>https://tieba.baidu.com/p/4886020430
Looks very nice.
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>>150500853
Didn't you see the picture?
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>>150500384
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Seig's boobs are bigger than I remember them.
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>>150500062
>Sieg should be comparable. if not stronger than Vivio in Saint mode.
That's more or less no. Saint Vivio is a fucking artificially boosted powerhouse that took Nanoha going balls to the wall and nearly killing herself doing so to win by an inch. Sieg is good but she isn't a be all and end all character. That's like saying Shirou wins against everyone because he has EMIYA experience drain in a way much greater than Sieg.
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>>150501317
Pretty sure it's implied that Sieg is stronger than Olivie, at least in terms of PvP against human mages. And Vivio wasn't forced to become the Saint through accelerated and artificial means.
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>>150501469
Er, by Sieg I meant Jeremiah here.
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>>150501469
>Vivio wasn't forced to become the Saint through accelerated and artificial means.
Did we all just forget about the big red crystal stuck in her?
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>>150500061
If we go by coolness I think it goes Signum > Nanoha > Zafira > Fate > Chrono > the rest.
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>>150501536
You mean the Saint core? What about it?
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>>150501653
That Vivio was forced to become a Saint through artificial means. Olivie got a Saint core. Vivio got a big red crystal substitute.
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>>150501653
>powerlevels

Are those the same as mentioned for Nanoha and Fate in Season 1? If so that's crazy, I remember them only have around 1 million. Olivie stronk
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>>150501681
All the kids of Saint King lineage who are suited to become the Saint got the core implanted into them when they were newborns. It's what makes their bodies incredibly superhuman and magical powers enormous. Vivio is a clone of Olivie. She too has something like a core, and Jail was forced and accelerated to become a Saint, empowering her to Saint level. The core also lets them control the cradle.

Thing is, unlike Vivio, Sieg has almost all of her memories and her powers came naturally to her. She's a genuine power that embodies Jeremiah. I'm sure there's still room for her to improve to reach Jeremiah's true power, but for now I reckon she could match Vivio in saint mode.

>>150501850
Assuming so, yes.
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>>150501629
Nanoha has that honest, normally-behaving girl demeanor. She's powerful but her front is deceivingly sweet/ordinary. Fate though naturally acts cool without any forcing it. When doing business that is, she is deliciously bashful outside action.
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>>150501908
>I'm sure there's still room for her to improve to reach Jeremiah's true power

Well, Wilfried was primarily a scholar who exploited their genetic trait to make his descendants stronger.
Since every generation accumulates more knowledge and experience, and Sieg actually is primarily a fighter, it stands to reason she's actually stronger.
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>>150501908
I forget how much Olivie looks so much like Saber.
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>>150502027
I love Nanoha more than any other chinese toon character so I might be biased, the only reason I don't think she is above Signum is because Signum is just too cool. She is the character I want to see fight the most in the new movie, after Nanoha of course.
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>>150502112
I like how Nanoha has characters that are awesome without the clichy tough act and such. Nanoha is great in that, she's fucking modest, despite being almost the strongest there (or absolutely strongest since in a fight, Hayate would lose despite more raw power). I thing that making her a teacher/instructor was actually nice touch to underscore that personality.
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>>150500183

Vivio was a crying toddler who knew nothing about fighting and Nanoha had to absolutely go all out to win.
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>>150499605

Nanoha learned how to do magic in weeks. This is not DBZ where characters get stronger and stronger with training. They reach their peak after maybe a year. After that it's just experience.
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>>150502109
It's interesting that her battle form in the end was nothing like the Sankt Kaiser form that appeared in StrikerS.

I remember how I was "zomg that looks threatening and nasty" when seeing Vivio turn into that first time (for once I didn't get spoiled, thank God!).
I recall I though at that point that the look is a resurrection of the ancient belkan whoever and it is supposed to be ancient. I think it also wasn't clear from StrikerS that the cloned Sankt Kaiser was a woman, I only realized that in Vivid manga. (Kaiser/King is masculinum after all). Back then I kinda assumed it was a guy and Vivio is opposite sex clone for reasons (the anime being Nanoha).

Begs a question, where does the BJ look come from? Is that something inherent? (because unlike Nanoha, Vivio probably didn't create the design in her imagination, when forcibly transformed in Cradle).
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>>150500384
>>150500384
Good fight. Can't wait for scanlations to catch up.
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>>150502408
>bosses, videogames
ah, sorry. Didn't occur to me it will be this confusing in the context

Nanoha is awesome but doesn't actually have the outer, for effect cool demeanor. Her awesomeness is very inner. The way I see it, that is.
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>>150502810
I always assumed that it was a mixture of the lezbots oufits and Nanoha's barrier jacket, to show that she is being controled by Jail but the little Vivio is still inside.
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>>150500084
>Miura is actually using her adult mode in this fight.

what
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>>150499699
Go away Levi
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>>150503116
Hmm, true, there was that bit about Vivio supposedly stealth-observing and learning techineques and magic from her environment, or something like that?
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>>150503141
She is an illegal legal loli.
The ultimate jailbait.
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This is Fate's heart breaking
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>>150502390
>>150502974
The thing about Nanoha is that when her coolness gets out, it shines with blinding light.
It is basically a hidden value that activates only under certain situations, contrary to Signum that posses it as a passive ability.
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>>150503518
She always looks super distressed while watching Vivio fight.
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>>150503518
Why is she wearing Nanoha's uniform? Fate is an enforcer, she's not in the air force.
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>>150503899
They had to get dressed quickly and Fate's uniform got dirtied.
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>>150503829
She can't hang

>>150503899
Good question.
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>beating the shit out of each other
>still smiling because it's a damn good fight

These two kids are the best.
The absolute best.
Why haven't they gotten married yet
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>>150503899
What uniform does Fate wear in Force? Still enforcer, or something else since she's in the reassembled riot6?

Looks like still enforcer to me.
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>>150502792
Nanoha was a mature smart kid, Fuuka is a dummy who thinks with her muscles. Fuuka may be really quick at picking up martial arts moves but I doubt she would be able to do the same with complex mathematical magic spells.
>They reach their peak after maybe a year. After that it's just experience.
False. None of the Vivids have reached their peaks yet. The Riot 6 gang also canonly got stronger slowly throughout Strikers and even after that thanks to both training and experience. Even adult Nanoha and Fate's raw power outputs are greater than that of their 9 years old selves.
Training and experience are inherently the same anyway.
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>>150504001
>They had to get dressed quickly and Fate's uniform got dirtied.
Seems like they fucked during Vivio's fight, Fate seemed to be wearing her right uniform at the start of the match.
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>>150503899
Fujima messed up. It will probably get fixed in the tank version.
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>>150504492
Fate doesn't even flinch at killing intent but can't take her kid getting punched by a kid half her size. What a sweetheart.
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So according to Seig, the power of Fuuka's punch essentially comes from her hard bones, and that she also got what it takes to archive Shingeki.
>Rinne got hard muscles
>Fuuka got hard bones
What the heck is this? And Seig not acting like a moeblog is still weird.
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>>150504731

fuuuuk, someone color it pls
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>>150505065
Fuuka and Rinne's love child will have hard bones and hard muscles, creating a demon fighter.
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>>150504509
Nanoha always gets excited during brutal fights.
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>>150505163
Let's hope she will turn out headstrong after her mom and booby after her mom.
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>>150505065
>Fuuka and Rinne get hyped
>There never will be a second season
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>>150505163
>>150505234
Or maybe they mess up, and their kid only get Rinne's normal bones+weak mentality and Fuuka's normal muscles+flat chest.
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>You will understand the meaning of Reflection once you watch it
>reflection = mirror image
>mirror image of the main trio = materials
that was easy, didn't even have to watch it
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>>150505292
Well, there are fans of that too. Important is that the girl will find a good life partner dyke
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>>150505292
Even better!
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>>150491345
>>150491321
S T I T CH W H E R E
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>>150505292
-Fuuka's flat chest
-Fuuka's punk nature
-Past Rinne's gentleness
-Present Rinne's seriousness in mild amount
This combination would be perfect.
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>>150504467
>Even adult Nanoha and Fate's raw power outputs are greater than that of their 9 years old selves

Literally never stated in anything canon.

They were S+ mages 10 years after A's. When by the end of A's they were already around S.
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>>150505265
>Einhart and Seig get hyped
>their fights get skipped and they get benched for the rest of the series
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>>150505730
Pretty sure that they were still only AAA at the end of A's.
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>>150500384
>Vivio gets up TWICE from fully hitting kicks

"Vivio is fragile, the writers said so!"
t. /a/

That said this fight looked crazy good.
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>>150505789

Bullshit. They were AAA in S1. And wolkies completely fucked them in the first fight. By the end they could fight them equally.
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>>150505796
Literally magic armor. In their previous fight, she got trashed the moment she ran out of magic.
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>>150505849
That was because the devices were enhanced, tho
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>>150505730
>>150505789
Mage rank is not true measure of magical out. Granted, you do need strong magical output to achieve a high rank. But ultimately it's a test mages take. If you pass it then you get a rank. The higher the rank, the harder the test. Nanoha and Fate were AAA mage around the time of A's.

What determines magical output is the core linker and that, IIRC, is determined by birth.
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It was kind of nice to see Fuuka with more than a paragraph of dialogue for a change. I'm still rooting for Rinne though.
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>>150505969
>What determines magical output is the core linker and that, IIRC, is determined by birth.
That is true but the linker core does grow along with the body. They can also expand it natural capacity with tools like this. Nanoha used to let Raising Heart drains her magic all the time when she was at Vivio's age too. It's only natural to assume that pre-nerfed adult Nanoha's magical output would be larger than her younger self because her linker core, like her body, is much more bigger.
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>>150506458
Vivio's group wears these wristbands all the time when they are training at the gym in Strike by the way. Too bad that Rinne got nothing like this in Jill's gym.
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>>150500183

Rewatch that fight. Nanoha only "won" because Vivio let her.
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>>150503141
It only makes sense that the best adult form would barely change anything. That's why Rio is the second best.
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>fight between two former friends
>with similar abilities and powers
>in the rain

This hits most of my fetishes
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I have concluded that Miura is the best waifu this franchise has ever devised.
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>>150507229

>Just as tough as Rinne, if not tougher
>Has just as much offensive power, if not more
>Learns other people's fighting styles in months, with no prior training
>Personally training under Einhart

Fuuka has the better skillset and potential, by far. The only thing Rinne has going for her is raw power.
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>>150493996
Well, she's a cool professional fighter. What did you expected?
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>>150506458
There's a natural limit once the core reaches its peak. Relics, cartridge, unison, and other various ways to enhances magical power either does so by adding to one's power or momentarily draws out power beyond the normal limit at a cost.
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>>150501629
This looks about right.
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>>150507473

>Learns other people's fighting styles in months, with no prior training
Only some basic moves, though, all that time spent being their human sandbag wasn't for naught.
>people complained about how this show was trying to do that talent vs hardwork theme again
>it's actually about bones vs muscles
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>>150502033
Or will be stronger. Sieg is still quite young and hasn't mastered her gifts yet. So yeah there's definitely room for her to get stronger and to develop her contribution for the next Black Jeremiah.
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>>150507757

No, I'm pretty sure it's still about talent beating hardwork. Fuuka is not only a more talented fighter than Rinne, but has had much better training, although only 4 months. Rinne has been at this for over 2 years and she's struggling right now.
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>>150505796
This is a dodge, isn't it?
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>>150508176
Better training plays a really big role. Overworking your body would actually stunt your potential instead of enhancing it. Even Jill admitted that she was wrong in her way of training Rinne this episode.
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>>150506589
I wonder if the staff really knows of just copied the look without knowing what they do. Since they didn't even tell about them to Fuuka.
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>>150508392
Yeah I assume Vivio activated her Sharingan in that moment since one panel focused on her eyes
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>there are anons unironically cheering for vivio here

Faggots. Vivio is a mistake and a cuck.
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reminder that Vivio was at Fate's breasts
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>>150508450

>Rinne is less talented and has worse training

I guess Fuuka's win is ensured. What I don't understand is why the series has spent so much time on Rinne if she was just going to get blown out so hard by everyone. In hindsight, the only reason she beat Miura is because the latter got overconfident, otherwise she would have lost quicker than she lost to Vivio.
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>>150505602
futaba
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>>150507473
Rinne needs a better coach. Fuuka is doing quite well because she has a great coach and friends who helped her improved her skills a lot.
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>>150508827
Rinne still has her Longinus.
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>>150507074
BTW, anyone has the link for the mega link for the stitches?
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>>150508884
Does anybody have Vivio stitch (episode 1)?
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>>150508884
TUMMY
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>>150504731
Imagine all the bruises she'll be covered in after this. Would be kind of cute if they showed them poor girls with the due bandaids an stuff afterwards.
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>>150509457
Don't they just use magic?
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>>150510934
you partypooper
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>>150510934
Magical bandaids
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>>150510987
Ixy is a very cute bandaid. I want to put her in my medicine cabinet.
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>>150507815
Seig will never reach her full potential if she keeps nerfing herself and never fights seriously.

>>150510934
Doesn't mean they don't use bandages anymore. Heck, I remember them even bandaging Bardiche and Raising Heart in A's.
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>>150512151
>Heck, I remember them even bandaging Bardiche and Raising Heart in A's.
inb4 tape

Vivid also has clothing damage (with Vivio going underboob >>150504127 in most of her fights, although having most armor there), which is nonexistent in Strike.
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>>150502033

Wilfried was a girl though.
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I sure love how everybody forgets that Vivids are just doing sports. Put Nanoha in a ring where she loses if she ever leaves it and then make her fight Victoria or Sieg.

She wouldn't last a minute.
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So is Rinne the magical girl equivalent of Broly? I mean think about it:

>Naturally stronger than most people train to be without practice
>Traumatic childhood
>Self serving guardian who uses said power for own ends
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>>150512555
In the past.
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>>150512646
>The more damage she takes, the harder she'll hit
Hmmm.
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>>150512753

She has Backwater? Well, that explains things.
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>>150512753

She is literally a Saiyan

Someone with photoshop skills edit Rinne's face onto a picture of Broly, I'll need it for my eventually W/E/G.
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This episode got some nice dialogues. I hope the sub won't fuck it up.
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>>150513381

Are the Vividtrans subs the best? They TL the manga so I assume so, but...
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>>150513431
Hell no. Their translations always suck. It's just that no one complains about the manga since they're the only ones doing it.
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>>150513431
Haven't checked theirs yet but Ron's sub did fuck up some important lines of Fuuka back in episode 5.
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>>150513431
Ron is OK, Vividtrans and Amazon are total ass.
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>>150513702
What was the fuck up?
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>>150513528
>>150513702
>>150513733

Ok, this might sound pedantic but how so? I don't speak the language so I can never tell, and it seems to be there's never a single sub group people consider to be 'good'.

Not being troll-y or fanboyish I genuinely don't get it.
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>>150513774
It was some shit about Fuuka's motivation for still wanting to fight Rinne. Something about girly feelings that I can't remember.
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>>150512151
>Seig will never reach her full potential if she keeps nerfing herself and never fights seriously
Which is why she'll pass the mantle of champion to Einhart so she can finally close that chapter and pursue new higher horizons.
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>>150513812
There are a good number of vocab words I know, and if they translate something in a way I don't like or have poor English grammar I avoid them.

Mostly I rely on anons mentioning something though.
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>>150514101
being a fucked silly by Victor
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>>150513774
Check the bath scene when Fuuka talks about what she wants to do with Rinne. The sub says
>she became my adversary when she looked at us like we're garbage
But what she actually said is
>わしや対戦相手、ヴィヴィさん達を見る時のあの濁ったドブみたいな目
>the eyes that she makes when she looks at me, her opponents, and you guys. Those eyes that look like a muddy ditch
Then there is the last part where the sub says
>I have to overcome these 4 years
When what Fuuka thought is
>アイツの四年間を受け止められるワシになる
>I will become someone who can receive her 4 years worth of everything
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>>150514101
It's not about the championship. Seig is too kind for her own good. Many of her techniques are essentially for killing and destroying the enemies yet she gets freaked out whenever she hurts someone.
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>>150514270

Yeah but that's phrasing. Those lines she actually said sound too stilted in English, the other ones sound better.

I mean it's not like they're completely wrong. I'd rather have a translation that sounds natural and flows well rather than a 100% accurate 1 to 1.
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Nanoha should really adopt Fuuka.
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>>150514649
Nanoha should adopt everyone.
Even the ones with parents.
Even the parents.
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>>150514686
Fuuka needs a home that isn't with a former terrorist.
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>>150514587
Yeah, Ron's always been more about functional translations over literal ones. But some people who would prefer the opposite don't like that since there's no decent group focusing on the type of translation that they want.
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>>150508884
THANK YOU
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>>150514587
>it's not like they're completely wrong
They are completely different, though. In the bath scene, the sub makes it sounds like Fuuka was making an enemy out of Rinne while in reality, she is just saying that she doesn't like the way Rinne looks now. In the last part, the sub completely ignores Fuuka's feeling of wanting to accept and stop Rinne, and makes it seems like she just wants to beat the shit out of her for no deeper reason.
I don't know how to make the wording better and still keep the meaning but the sub is just plainly wrong in this case.
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>>150514853

I disagree though. I interpreted it as saying she'll get through to Rinne by putting her in her place, which feels much more like a Fuuka thing to say. Think Kamina, decking Simon to make him see sense.

The literal translation feels way too grandiose.
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She almost killed her.
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>>150514723
Nanoha isn't a former terrorist, and Fate is barely home.
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>>150515823
Fate wasn't really a terrorist, either.
A criminal, certainly, but she wasn't a terrorist.
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>>150515628
>>150515678
>>150515711
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This episode was really good. Cute little Rinne and Fuuka are the best, I hope we get more.

Also I hope we get to see Rinne smiling again like in >>150515628
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>>150515062
>which feels much more like a Fuuka thing to say.
So you prefer rewriting the actual personality of the character with your personal interpretation of them, huh. Oh well, good for you I guess.
Other people may not feel the same, and the sub did cause some misunderstandings about Fuuka's feelings for Rinne. If you check the archive around when episode 5 sub was out, you will see some posts calling out Fuuka for misinterpretering Rinne. Meanwhile in 2ch and futaba threads of episode 5, people joked about the possibility of Rinne crying had she heard of the way Fuuka dissed her in that bath scene. Some people said that Fuuka was like a terrible bully who beats people just because he don't like the way they look at him but then other posts pointed out to them that the last scene in the episode shows that Fuuka does think and care about Rinne's feelings.
In any case, the dialogues in this week episode are particularly important in understanding the characters' feelings and motivation so I'm just hoping that Ron or whoever translates it find a way to make them sounds natural but still maintain the original meanings instead of rewriting them completely to something else.
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I love Fuuka
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>>150513431
>>150513812
Vividtrans is for archiving.

Amazon is too simplified and localizes, ergo they are the worst. Ron sometimes make mistakes, but they're decent overall. Vividtrans don't localize and I haven't seen anyone point out errors in their release before. Plus, from what I can tell Vividtrans is more descriptive and preserves formal speech and mannerisms more than Ron.
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>>150517371
>Vividtrans don't localize and I haven't seen anyone point out errors in their release before.
That's because no one watches their releases. I tried watching the very first episode with their subs and had to turn it off after a few minutes since they were so awful that I went back to Amazon's crap.
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>>150517371
It doesn't matter which shitty subgroup you choose, they're all trash. However, since EOPs can't understand all the nuances of the original Japanese that they're missing out on, the best idea is to choose the one that sounds the best.
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>>150517371
>Vividtrans is for archiving.

Every time I see this stupid lie posted, I know it's someone from Vividtrans.
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>>150517371
Stick to translating the manga.
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>>150517371
>Vividtrans is for archiving.

Except their video quality is ass, at least the one release of theirs that I downloaded. Some great "archiving" material right there.

Really, if you take an entire fucking week or whatever to release subs, being absolutely flawless is just about the lowest expectation you deserve.
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>>150517371
>archiving non-BDs
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>>150517535
I grab theirs I've seen several other anons post caps using their release.
>awful
Examples?

>>150517629
Or, you know, just someone who cares about subs that caters to my liking.

>>150517728
I could care less about video quality. I grab other releases if I want better vid quality.

>>150517771
Obviously, BD is the final release to get. But it depends on whether the ripper uses the subs that I like. When there's no good subs and they're all the same, then grabbing whichever BD with the best encoding is a given. But if all rippers used subs I hate, I grab the BD and the alternative group with subs I prefer.
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>>150509055

She's yet to use a special move though. Maybe she doesn't have one right now, but that's one she develops later. If she had one to use against Vivio, I'm sure she would have used it.
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>>150519124
She does have one, though. Maybe she didn't use it against Vivio because there are some special requirements that need to be fulfilled first or something.
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Rinne got befriended?
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>>150521298
Befriending in progress, a flashback was needed.
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>>150521298
>befriending
>physically beating the living shit out of her
Some friends you guys have.
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>>150514270
Fuuka sounds too hostile and Rinne is misrepresented a fair bit. Seems like Ron is being overly liberal and like he's inputting his interpretations rather than just translating what is said by staying reasonably faithful to the original diction and tone. Japanese culture has a habit of talking indirectly and replies on subtly/implications, and such traits are a part of how characters behave, their mentality, and personality so it's crucial be true to their intended character.
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>>150521298
Not yet. Rinne befriended Fuuka in the past, but now it's Fuuka's time to befriend Rinne.
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>>150521385

>Rinne: "Just leave me alone pls. This doesn't concern you."

>Fuuka: "Nah, I'm gonna beat the shit out of you until you agree with me."

Fuuka a bully confirmed.
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>>150521609
Rinne has always been Fuuka's bitch. She just hasn't tasted the backhand in a couple years and needs to be reminded
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>>150521711

Nonsense. Fuuka's head will be under Rinne's heel soon enough. Next episode, she will remind them.
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>>150521609
Fuuka is one clingy bitch. It's been 4 years since when they broke up and Rinne has been rejecting her multiple times already.
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