Isekai Genre

OP watches animu
look at him and laugh

What terrible series have you been watching?

>>150438308
Sounds like Death March except for the truck.

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>>150437881
>watching those shows for anything besides humor (if any) and/or cute/lewd girls

Isekai is a horribly oversaturated genre because it's the epitome of wish fulfillment. It's not written professional authors, but by neets uploading their own bedtime fantasies to syosetu. Yet, the ones to get big tend to be the ones with less amounts of wish fulfillment. I doubt a lot of people still like the horrible generic ones that have been done a thousand times before.

>>150437881
>do not abuse any of it and pretend to be weak
>help everyone because muh humble and benevolent japanese culture
Oh son you have not seen anything yet. The majority are completely opposite and just as bad most of the time.

>>150437881
異世界 isn't a genre.

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Isekai a shit.

Trash will never be reborn even if they die.

>>150439548
>become the orclord
what's this from?

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>>150437881
>avoid truck
>it keeps chasing you anyway

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>>150440022

>>150439906
Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu

>>150438351

Nope. OP is talking about every ISEKAI series ever. Even Re:Zero the supposed to be deconstruction have this problem. Nigga doesn't abuse the power and instead becomes humble like a retard.

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>Isekai thread
>Now anon, I hate most Isekai, but you have to read THIS isekai, it's totally different
>read it
>it's not different

>>150440435
You do know what would happen if he accepts the greed witch's proposal and abuse his power right?

>>150437881

OP, please.

If that shit happened to me, I'd become a Shirou-tier Hero of Justice.

>>150440603
And then get lynched by the people you thought you're saving.

>>150440668

Unlike Shirou, though, I have a sense of self-preservation. I see fuckers coming at me with torches and pitchforks, I'm running.

>>150440435
It deconstructed a lot of elements of timelooping power fantasy too, why wouldn't it also do that? The whole mansion arc in particular showed how shit it would be to have people forget you, how it could make things worse, and that you'd never be able to set all of the same flags. His conflict with the witch cult was at first that his power couldn't save his friends even with time travel because he was a shitter with no skills to take advantage of. The story later on also explores the trap of becoming an unlikeable sociopath who can't live life without adjusting every single minor detail like a photoshoot through an AU where he does abuse the power.

>>150437881
I'm not a fan of ntr, guro and scat, but it somehow it stills exists because some people like this shit.

So, yeah, of course some people like this genre, Isekai, myself included. Although I'm not a fan of the characters per se in most cases, after all I'm a sucker for the other world per se and I'm extremely bored whenever there's a story on modern earth, especially school life.

>>150437881
>help everyone because muh humble and benevolent japanese culture
>nips
>benevolent

>yfw seo starts a new isekai manga starring fuuka after she got trucked

>>150437881
>>everyone loves muh japanese food
this, they're too bland as a food

>>150440954
There's a few series that set up a culinary test with japanese food but the other characters go meh when they taste it.

>>150440833
>I'm not a fan of ntr, guro and scat
faggot

>>150437881
I have garbage taste and I'm a complete sucker for this kind of shit, I just can't get enough.

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>>150437881

It's the repeated reincarnation theme that always strikes me as most alarming. There are other ways to get to fantasy worlds. Think a little. And I mean very little. Fucking El Hazard just had a magic robot go all "BAM! Have a nice trip!" and that show was great. Kagome from Inuyasha found a magic well, Whatserface from 12 Kingdoms was dragged by a magical creature to her fantasy world.

The Lion the Witch and Wardrobe had a magical piece of furniture that linked the two world and it's a literal allegory for the after life and Jesus and all that shit.

I forgot how Jon Carter got to mars and the Connecticut Yankee got to King Arthur's Court but Im pretty sure it wasn't by dying. Man I need to reread those books.

>>150437881
>>do not abuse any of it and pretend to be weak
to be fair the fame that comes with flaunting it is very tiresome

What isekai series are there where the parallel world actually has more than two or three cultures (demon army culture notwithstanding) instead of everybody being some variant on Standard Medieval Fantasy? Where the protagonist lands in some dark age English shithole, but not far away there are also !Byzantines, !Chinese, !Ottomans, !Assyrians or whatever (maybe the Assyrians are just the demon army)

>>150440435
>humble
>gets delusions of power the minute he arrives and nearly watches a loli die
>still has delusions of power and nearly gets beaten to death by thugs
>even after dying numerous he still thinks he's the center of the universe and can do whatever he wants on his trip to the capital
>makes an ass of himself at the castle and gets beaten like a bitch in a duel

Humble he was not. He's not eager to spam his power because it's called Return by (often painful) Death not Return by Some Other Convenient Method.

>>150437881
>be a total loser
>suddenly hit by a japanese truck
>given second chance at life in a new world
>it's a Now and Then; Here and There post-apocalyptic warzone
>the MC gets conscripted into an infantry platoon
>flip between slice-of-life squad banter and pants-shitting action
>the MC returns to the real world with army uniform and handful of photos of him and the other soldiers
>his parents are extremely happy to get their son back
>realizes that the rest of the platoon will probably think he deserted
>realizes that some of them are probably dead in what was supposed to be the final offensive of the war
>nobody else in his boring Japanese high school will ever understand these feels

Would you read it?

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Is this the killer truck thread?

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>>150441725
Sure sounds right up my alley

>>150441725
>ends with a school shooting/suicide/First Blood

>>150441725
Isn't this just Muv-Luv Alternative with more trucks and less robots?

What are some stuff in other mediums with this premise

>>150441860
In the final part of The Chronicles of Narnia, they get hit by a train and go to lion heaven.

>>150441842
>>150441816

I was thinking more Generation Kill/Band of Brothers

>>150441725
>parents happy
>getting their loser son back

Kek.

This will be the real situation.

>parents clear up his room after he went missing
>they already adopted a new child that has taken over his room
>they give him some money and ask him to live by himself elsewhere

>>150441916
>it ain't me starts playing

>>150440497
Go try Black Maria for Assasination classroom+Akame ga Kill+Sex the isekai.
Translation is wonky as usual but at least readable since its Larvyde

>>150441990
Sounds terrible based on the summory at novelupdates.

>>150437881
>Isekai
>Genre
Retard
Also, not everyone starts way you described. Hataraku, Drifters and Alice in Wonderland are also isekai.

>>150440022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjbUnn32_zU

>>150437881
>muh humble and benevolent japanese culture.

This only really bothered me in tenchi muyo
>hurr durr im a farmer and i got a stupid hair cut.


Thats all i can really say i hate about tenchi as a character.

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>>150442210
>isekaifag detected

Literally every isekai has at least one of the points in the OP.

>>150441778
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS.

>>150442298
Kumo doesn't.

>be total loser in real life
>suddenly hit by a japanese truck
>given second chance at life in a new world
>potential to gain super special ability
>do not abuse it
>help everyone because muh humble and benevolent japanese culture
So is Konosuba an Isekai?

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>>150441816
>>150441842
>MuvLuv is a "reincarnated in another world" story

>>150442298
Alice in the wonderland, Chronicles of Narnia and Gulliver's adventures don't.

>>150442377
Of course is is. Just because retarded OP tries to force his narrative that everything he doesn't like is bad doesn't mean he's right.

>>150437881
I kind of want Seno to write an Isekai now with dead Fuuka starring.

>>150440435
He does abuse it in one possible timeline, and it ends in disaster.

>>150442686

>>150440896

>>150442710
Not really in disaster but everyone's character development stops. Some are even reversed.

>>150442793
That's what I'd consider a disaster. The moment human evolution ends is the day they die.

So, in the vast amount of Isekai which ones are the best (less shittier)?

>>150443312
Either the ones that don't play it straight like Konosuba or Re Zero, or the ones that play it straight but with actual effort like Mushoku Tensei or Muv Luv Alternative.

>>150443312
Lazy dungeon master is alright

>>150442158
The summory's are always retarded mate.

>>150437881
>do not abuse any of it and pretend to be weak

We call that being humble and testing the water. Yes you gain super special ability but the moment those secret organization heard of you due to your outburst, you're done for.

>>150443582
>abused super power and made a huge ruckus
>everyone wants a piece of this
>nearby country sends in spies and special forces
>your own country sends a princess while pretending to guard her they barricade your house
>underground organization is replacing the shops in your city
>the cult is replacing citizens in your city
>but nobody dares to make the first move because it's gotten too big
>once you step out of your house literally everyone glares at you

>>150440875
They aren't, but they THINK they are, which makes it even worse for the non-gook reader.

>oh my GOD he helped those kids even though he had no reason to!
>WHAT? he doesn't want a reward for helping those people against thieves? that's unheard of in the history of ever!
>what do you mean you don't want a slave?
>HUH? of course we're gonna gang up and rape these 2 young girls who are lost! why are you drawing that sword?

>"it's the japanese thing to help"
>"uwaaaah! mc-kun is so NICE! I think me and these 13 other chicks are in love!

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>>150440497
every fucking time

>guys have you read Mushoku Tensei? It's not like the others
>guys have you seen Kumo desu ga? It's not like the others
>guys have you read Moonlight Sculptor? It's not like the others
>guys have you seen Tate no Yuusha? It's not like the others

IT'S ALWAYS LIKE THE OTHERS

>>150439548
This is at least slightly better because only monster people like him, but it still suffers badly from the usual isegay shit.

>>150440022

The fuck? Is that truck made of adamantium and powered by a couple of tank engines? Also, trees don't just shatter into splinters when a truck hits them.

>>150445616
>guys have you read Muv-Luv Alternative? It's not like the others
predates them all

>>150445616
Tate No Yuusha has better characters and drama (by comparison) but the story just a shit as the rest, and the character is just another Gary Stu.
He gets shat on a lot though, so it's bearable.

>>150445616
Guys, have you read Honzuki? It's not like the others

>>150445749
>Also, trees don't just shatter into splinters when a truck hits them.

The tree usually wins if it is of size. Everyone in the truck usually dies.

How do you fix a genera thats lost the novelty of its gimmic? By cramming it full of more novel gimmicks!

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>>150446121
fucker ate my picture

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All isekai I'm currently reading/watching and in which medium:

Re: Zero: 6/10 (wn/ln/m/a)
Konosuba: 6/10 (m/a) humor is okay
Drifters: 6/10 (m/a) hellsing was better
Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku: 6/10 guilty pleasure, sue me I don't give a fuck (wn/m)
Chihou Kishi Hans no Junan: 6/10 (m) comfy
Hai to Gensou no Grimgar: 6/10 (a)
Risou no Himo Seikatsu : 6/10 (ln) comfy
The Legendary Moonlight Sculptor : 5/10 (m)
GATE: 5/10 (m/a) good setting shit story
Kekkon Yubiwa Monogatari: 5/10 (m) MC is too much of a faggot
Log Horizon: 5/10 (m/a)
No Game No Life: 5/10 (a)
Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari: 4/10 (wn/m)
World Customize Creator: 4/10 (m)
Tsuyokute New Saga: 4/10 (m)
Ore to Kawazu-san no Isekai Hourouki: 4/10 (m)
The New Gate: 4/10 (ln/m)
Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken: 4/10 (m)
Mushoku Tensei: 4/10 (wn/ln/m)
Overlord: 4/10 (m/a)
Kumo Desu ga Nani ka?: 4/10 (m)
Mondaiji-tachi: 3/10 (m/a)
Hero BBS: 3/10 (m)
Kuro no Iyashi: 3/10 (m)
Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami: 3/10 (m)
Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu: 3/10 (m)
Isekai Tensei Soudouki: 3/10 (m)
Konjiki no Moji Tsukai: 3/10 (m)
Sayounara Ryuusei Konnichiwa Jinsei: 3/10 (m)
Sword Art Online: 2/10 (ln/m/a)
Hagure Yuusha no Aesthetica: 2/10 (m/a)
Yuusha Party: 2/10 (wn)
Kenja no Mago: 2/10 (m)
Yuusha-sama ni Ikinari Kyuukonsareta no Desu ga: 2/10 (m)
Re:Monster: 2/10 (m)
Kouritsu Kuriya Madoushi: 2/10 (m)
Maken no Daydreamer: 2/10 (m)
Spirit Migration: 2/10 (m)
Hiraheishi wa Kako o Yumemiru: 2/10 (m)
Toaru Ossan no VRMMO Katsudouki: 1/10 (m)
Gun-Ota: 1/10 (m)
Himekishi no Classmate: 1/10 (m)
Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu: 1/10 (m)
Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou: 1/10 (ln/m)
Nidome no Yuusha: 1/10 (wn)
Okinodoku Desu ga, Bouken no Sho wa Maou no Mono ni Narimashita: 1/10 (m)
Dungeon Seeker: 1/10 (m)

>>150446209
>ywn be this autistic

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>>150445020
now now, there's no need to brag

for example, we japanese never brag

or rape

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>>150446209

How to make a good Isekai
1. Do NOT give the MC powers from their previous life that translates to their new life.
2. Do NOT make the MC's power absurd as shit at the start, maybe it can grow into an OP power but don't start it as one.
3. Do NOT give the MC 20 or some powers. 1 is good, 3 is okay, 5 is pushing it and 10 is the absolute max but requires balancing.
4. Girls DO NOT instantly like MC just because he did a single nice act even if it was for them or saving their lives.
5. FUCKING WORLD BUILD

>>150446456
So write an actual fantasy novel? Benefit of Isekai is it gives you an excuse to make you MC get anything for no reason with no development. Modern education= excellent at every aspect of new world life including military strategy and economics from the start. Bullshit powers from goddess/whatever. Instantly liked because of Japanese/modern morals, World build? NOPE look at this awesome MC and everything he does!

>>150446613
You CAN make the character's modern education give him an advantage. That's something you can suspend your disbelief for. Hell you could base an Isekai off this! Make the MC a kid who worked for his dad's factory or something and knows how to build, and instead of himself having any powers he makes warforged and a Robo Waifu.
Go Tony Stark on this bitch

>>150446668
Totally possible to do it well, but also easy to abuse if one decides to be lazy.

>>150445820
>>150443511
>>150442441
What is it with this "Muv-shit is isekai" meme? Is this like the time JRPG general was being spammed with "Muv Luv is the best JRPG"? Aside from the basic premise of "going to another world" it bears almost no resemblance to what most people think of these days when you say "isekai". The MC doesn't die before being transported, he doesn't go to a fantasy world but just a more fucked up version of our world, he doesn't get given a cheat superpower by a goddess, there is no videogame mechanics to the world, he doesn't go on a journey across the globe, and he spends half the story being a cocky but ultimately useless POS.

>>150446708
>he doesn't get given a cheat superpower by a goddess

- travels to another world
- videogames make him able to pilot a mecha

fuck off

also the word isekai literally means "parallel world" you dipshit

>>150446739
>videogames make him able to pilot a mecha
Videogames gave him practice with developing the spatial awareness skills that any pilot needs, and higher expectations regarding what maneuvers can be performed in a mecha (which the mechanics hate by the way because he's basically redlining everything, and it's explained that the flight computers were purposely designed to discourage the kind of shit he loves to pull because maintenance is expensive and time consuming) but they're nothing that any of the other characters can't learn with enough flight time, and indeed there are many veteran pilots who are better than him. Also the Mecha controls are not literal duplicates of his videogame controls unlike these stories where the world has literal EXP bars and skill levels.

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>>150437881
>do not abuse any of it and pretend to be weak
I understand most of the pathetic wish-fulfillment psychology that goes into the genre, except for this bit.

>oh holy shit look at those cheat powers and how powerful I am compared to entire kingdoms!

>I better lay low and hide everything!

WHY

FOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE

>>150446873
>oh wow, it's just like the videogame I played!

Can't believe you fell for that contrived excuse.

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>what is this? oh, it's like a videogame menu! are those levels?

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>>150446209
>Drifters
But Hellsing doesn't have cool as fuck strategies.

>>150446932
Except that it wasn't and half of Unlimited was him asking dumb shit relating to "why isn't it just like my video games with Super Customs and combining machines" and others were responding with "are you stupid what good would that do?"

>>150447002
Every fucking time.

It's even worse when on top of that they pull the
>I have an analysis ability that lets me immediately discern all the information about anything in the world at will
card. That's a surefire way to bore your reader since it takes away all the mystery of being in an unknown world.

>>150437881
>be total loser in life
>die in shame hit by a slow tractor
>meet a worthless goddess
>take her instead of super special ability
>realize you fucked up
>you're broke now
>you kinda like it
>make fun of all other isekai
i mean, konosuba was good anon.

>>150447102
Konosuba was "okay"

there were like 2 legitimately good episodes and 2 fapworthy ones, that's it

>>150446209
>Gun-Ota: 1/10 (m)
Too harsh, other than shitty art is quite funny.

>>150437881
You forgot the part where everyone loves the mc unconditionally and wants his otherwordly dick.

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>>150447188
ah yes, quality humor, Carlin would be proud

>>150447186

>it legitimately gets me laughing
>didn't bore me
>characters were likeable
>MC isn't a dense fuck with a harem bigger than his ego
>the anime doesn't take itself seriously
that's a win for me anon
but i can understand people thinking otherwise

>be massively successful in real life
>suddenly killed by a jilted employee you fired
>forced to live in a theistic world because you bad-mouthed god and told him you were an atheist
>gain super special ability
>abuse the ever-loving shit out of it because it's the quickest way to an easy life
>fuck over everyone because you're an asshole who only cares about himself
>everyone loves muh batshit insanity and will to succeed

Youjo Senki is fun. Hope the anime does it justice.

>>150442298
Eliza has none of it.

I like isekai because i can self insert really easily. Give me your (you)'s.

@150447515
That's dumb and you're dumb because I know you actually feel this way even if you're baiting.

>>150446209
>Mushoku Tensei: 4/10 (wn/ln/m)
sounds about right. I'll admit I thought it was decent at first but the unoriginal writing becomes more evident throughout the series and the wish fulfillment isn't even remotely disguised.

>>150447541
Thanks for the @, friend, great way of conversation. ;)

>>150443312
The ones that don't get talked about because they don't work as power fantasies, so like half the otome ones ala Kenkyo or Akuyaku Tensei. Bookworm works too, I guess.

>>150440896
>>150442686
Funny, I wrote a plot about that in the write a plot thread.

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>mc is a japanese guy transported to another world
>after chapter 1 this fact has no more relevance whatsoever to the story

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUCK

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>what is this called?
>this is a nipponese "sushi", it's made with "raw fish"
>oh my god it's so delicious! what about this?
>ah that? it's called "steak", I also "steamed" it to bring out the flavor. I made it from those "cows"

>>150447747
>he's only a generic Japanese male for the sake of self-inserting.

>i dont like fantasy using reincarnation plot device
#YOLO christfags mad?

>>150437881
Read "Release the Witch" niggers.

>chinese mechanical engineer in past life
>No OP cheats
>brings about industrial revolution to fantasy medieval europe
>characters that are actually smart and figure shit out
>shooting the shit out of knights, drug addicts, monsters and devils with flintlocks,field artillery, revolvers, bomb-dropping hot air balloons and naval frigates
>kingdom building with magic

http://www.novelupdates.com/series/release-that-witch/

Only bad thing about it is it doesn't have any original artwork and the title is a Chinese meme.

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>"MC-kun, what do we do with those bandits you just effortlessly defeated?"
>"let's tie them to those trees over there and report them to the guards later"
>"eeeeh? but they're bandits and rapists, it's says so right here on my Analyze skill"
>"but sakura greyforest-chan"
>"yes?"
>"killing is wrong!"
>"uwaaaah! he's so different from everybody else! I will follow him forever!"

>>150445616
This will probably trigger many but I enjoyed MT far above the others . No other wish fulfilmentino can satisfy me as much as MT did. It was a great ride following a character and observing him from his birth to him getting older and hisdeath

It just had a bit of everything even though the last part was rushed. The comfy family stuff and banter is great too, especially in Jobless Oblige.
Also the author took a huge step forward in the sense of world building with his Laplace spinoff 古龍の昔話.

Probably nothing will top it for me as far as narou is concerned.

>>150447100
I think of it this way. The writer came up with a vaguely cool history or concept behind an item or monster or other thing in the world. They are dying to explain thing to you. But they don't have the writing skill to integrate into the plot the process of discovering the function or traits of thing through serendipity or experimentation. So they use the appraisal skill as a cheap way to blow their load and receive their gratification of "explain thing" as quickly and easily as possible so as to move directly to whatever stupid plot event that they wanted thing to enable.

>>150447824
I'll buy Sushi
But steaks? Nah.You'd have to basically go back to BC era
BURGERS though

>>150440022
H-hayai.

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>>150441429
People just use the dying-and-being-reborn trope because it's buddhistic as fuck, heralds them as a great savior, and because ultimately, they don't really want to return to Japan.

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>>150447943
Nigga, sushi is literally raw fish with rice.

Mankind was eating raw fish long before it learned to herd cattle, before it even learned how2fire. And cultivating rice is about as old as the fucking Illiad.

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What kind of trash do you people read? The monthly top ten?

>>150448029
白の皇国物語

>>150448028
How long did it take mankind to take chocolate and peanut butter and mix it together?
Hell how long did it take for PB to be made from peanuts?

>>150448122
That one was fun even if the MCs ability to make panties wet was kinda amazing.

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>>150446910
Because that way the kids that watch it can pretend that they have a super power too but are hiding it.

>>150448173
Its rare to see somebody have this much of a 'chosen one' aura. Kinda screams oldschool.

>>150448131
>cocoa
>new world fruit
>peanut butter
>industrialized product

>raw fish
>eaten since 20000 years ago by antecessors of homo sapiens, available in all oceans
>rice
>farmed for 4000 years, cultivated in all continents, low-cost, low-maintenance food for the masses

Yeah, totally the same, you faggot.

>>150446209
How are you autistic enough to dislike almost everything yet continue reading them?

I like the way Isekai currently is and none of you can stop me

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>>150448174
ah, you're completely, at last I truly see

I suppose it would make more sense if the target audience for those shitty isekai manga were actual children and not late-teens and fully grown NEET manchildren, but your explanation is good enough for me

sasuga Rikka-chan

>>150441429

The reincarnation part is especially bad, because it reflects a kind of disturbing mindset. Like "God, I'm so pathetic I can't even be a hero if I went to a fantasy world. I have to die and start all over again."

More, they want to autistically train after reincarnating? That's even more nonsensical. (It's weird, but I grew up reading the Chronicles of Narnia and the Never-Ending Story, and the kids managed to survive without any special powers. The Narnia kids eventually become warrior-kings.)

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>>150448223
Yeah, it works somehow for him, dunno why or how.

>>150448301
>and the kids managed to survive without any special powers
because God was watching over them.

>>150448351
You're not making any sense.

>because God was watching over them.
Then where were their harems and cheat powers?

>>150448361
Christian kids don't need harems and cheat powers.

>>150448361
>Then where were their harems and cheat powers?
Aslan doesn't grant harems and cheats, but life everlasting in heaven after the last battle

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>>150448379
Because their god is imaginary anyways.

nothing personnel kid

>>150448383

The last book is literally 'Muslims invade and ruin everything'.

>>150448293
Manga costs peanuts so it's not like children can't buy and read it.

>>150448413
>but everything changed when the fire nation attacked

>>150448422
regardless, children are not the main demographic lapping up the old "I was a fat greasy slob until I was ran over by a truck and ended in another world with a harem" trope.

Just look at the age of Narou's users/writers.

Adult 2channers.

>>150448233
>Forgetting the Kelp wrap.
>Forgetting the entire argument is based on 'when was X and Y fused into Z?

>>150448400
>Because their god is imaginary anyways.
their god was a literal lion that showed up and kills the witch

>>150448490
Narnia?

>>150448456

A thing I badly, badly dislike is when they start grinding levels like a literal computer game. I don't mind the world having video game MECHANICS, but things get really stupid when someone decides to find the most optimal way to level up to the point of insanity.

Like, that's sort of missing the point. Aragon didn't stop going after the Ring so he could spend fifteen chapters killing orcs to get better at swording. Heroes don't actually have to autistically level up, because you're writing a story and you just can hand-wave that.

If anyone's read Shield Hero, you probably remember the part where Naofumi just goes around trading. Jesus, that was ass-gratingly boring. Holy shit, that could make your asshole grow teeth.

Has there been an Isekai where there's a villain who is ALSO an Isekai character?

>>150448522
>you probably remember the part where Naofumi just goes around trading. Jesus, that was ass-gratingly boring. Holy shit, that could make your asshole grow teeth.
I thought the point of the Happy Merchant arc was it gave him an excuse to travel where the heroes had already been so that he could clean up the shit they left behind by acting like the world was a videogame.

>>150437881
I recognize that artstyle and based on this rage building inside me, it's probably that faggot who drew Kimi no Iru Machi


I won't be surprised if that faggot makes another rage-inducing manga again.

>>150447279
Jesus Christ anon, it's different side of globe

>>150437881
For once I want an isekai with the following

>multiple main characters from worldwide with different characteristics
>Jack the Amercan football player and former boy scout, charismatic leader figure
>Ivan the manliest Russian beating people with his pecs and lacking common sense when it commes to holding back
>Cheng Li the Chinese d

>>150448551
Defense Dungeon, if you consider the protagonist a villain.

>>150448551
SAO for starters

>>150448522
But the audience for the video-game-type isekai stories did have their characters get better by grinding levels up in Dragon Quest, Phantasy Star, and most famous of it all Wizardry.

Since everyone knows that grinding up means that you become better, which you can then objectively assess by seeing your stats increase and getting a level up, which is one of the most enjoyable events in a game, because it means that you're now even better than before, it gets used to show the audience that yes, that guy is doing hard work that actually pays off and benefits him for real.

>>150448554

I thought that was where the series gets a massive drop in quality. Like, the most interesting thing about Shield Hero was Naofumi dealing with having a difficult-to-use power and not being liked.

After that, they just stretch out the premise endlessly. Also, the other heroes are completely incompetent, so Naofumi can look better.

See, a story reads better if it's 'fair'.

>>150448584
>if that faggot makes
>if
>makes

>>150448596
SAO isn't an Isekai though. It's the MMO genre.

>>150448551
Sort of in Slime, though then there is the reincarnation thing with that character so.

>>150448626
Yes it is, as it is literally is another world, even if inside a videogame ergo i=different/alternative/parallel; sekai=world.

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>"oh look, she's a beautiful species of the mythical elf race!"

>it's a normal girl with pointy ears
>the elves on the setting aren't developed, or shunned, or revered, or isolated at all

errytime

>>150448551
Escaflowne the tv series, all of the other versions though have a different villain.

>>150448233
>cultivated in all continents
Nigga u need to learn where rice comes from

>>150448551
Drifters

>>150439906
It's Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu.

The previous hero made a deal with the goddesses after defeating the demon king and left the fantasy world to live peacefully in ours. His son gets shafted with the responsibility of fullfilling his fathers deal and going back to the fantasy world to be the new hero, but because the goddess only likes beautiful things she gets pissy on learning he doesn't look like his dad. So she sends him to a different continent with only the gift of speaking monster languages (not the human ones) and tells him to stay out of the way while she picks a different hero.

But yeah, its generic "he's actually super strong" isekai.

>>150448684
And you need to learn some reading comprehension, you community college lowlife.

>>150437881
Yes, and I don't know why.

Seen one, you've seen them all.

>le video game systems IRL and dragon quest setting

>>150447889
Have a passage from where the MC gets found out he's not really from this world by his younger sister.

http://lnmtl.com/chapter/release-that-witch-chapter-407

"Did you come from a world without magic?" Tilly asked suddenly.

"Pfft!" the Prince almost spat out all the tea he was drinking. He wiped his mouth, "W-what are you saying?"

"This month, I read all the books you wrote, and I always thought there was something puzzling," the Fifth Princess looked into his eyes, "until you said those words a moment ago, and I finally understood where the problem was. You completely excluded magic from the natural world in from your "Natural Science Foundations" or "Elementary Physics", all completely omitted any mention of magic. You now said magic is a unique phenomenon not found in nature, yet magic is part of nature."

Roland was shocked.

He suddenly realized he completely forgot Tilly Wimbledon lived in a world where magic naturally exists, as did the Fourth Prince, while he himself always thought of magic as outside of nature, and grew accustomed to thinking that way.

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>an ancient maou awakens

Honestly, I think the authors for this sort of shit aren't even self-aware.

>>150448761
He didn't realize the other party was leading him to fall into a hole he dug himself. And the source of that pit was the various books he wrote down.

When the average person is faced with so much complex information for the first time, their full attention would had been trying to make sense of it all, and wouldn't have noticed any issues - for "Natural Science" that studies everything in the world, to not mention magic once from beginning to end is inconceivable.

But Roland shelved his old memories to the back of his mind, and abandoned pretending to be his old self after the first month. Ministers wouldn't dare suspect him, and he wouldn't need to hide his true self in front of the witches, so he acted without restraint.

But Tilly is not an average witch. Apart from being the Fourth Prince's younger sister, she is also an Exceed.

In short time she read through all his books, and her keen sense noted this peculiar issue, combined with critical thinking equal to the modern world. On top of all that, she question everything to verify for herself, pushing him all the way to the corner.

What a crisis.

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>>150448761
>>150448782

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>>150448761
>>150448782
No one give a shit about your cheap chink knock-off
Please stop

>>150439548
>MC is so strong he 1-shotted a dangerous monster and which completely decapitated it
>MC learns magic super fast and is really good at it
of course

>>150445669
fucking this

>>150448594
Being the protagonist does not preclude you from being a villain.

>>150447747
Its even worse when the actual premise is good enough for the story to stand on its own without the whole isekai bit.

There is one think worse though.

>The fantasy world is just a ripoff of dragon quest.

>>150448853
>>150448859
I don't really care, I like it. So I'll keep posting it.

Also, since you think it's a knockoff, feel free to provide your recommendations on similar stories.

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The isekai domination is just beginning, it didn't take off until a year ago so most of the novels are too young to make into anime.
Expect a massive isekai anime boom in 2 years or so.

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>>150447747
>>150448982
That's why isekai that doesn't rely on magic cheat abilities and instead relies on the reincarnated person's use of modern knowledge is so much better.

Like how the MC of RTW kickstarted the industrial revolution by drawing a blueprint of a steam engine to a witch who can melt and shape iron with magic.

He doesn't have any magical powers except his memories of modern technology as a mechnical engineer, as well as contents of several high school level science textbooks he remembered.

And turned a primitive border village that has to evacuate 3 months every year into the center of a new kingdom.

>>150449388
>it didn't take off until a year ago

that's how you spot a newfag

most of narou's top 20 is from 2011/14

>b-b-but anime
whocares

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>>150449471
Nobody cares about your shit-tier chinkshit ripoff, you obvious shill.

Are there any isekai WNs with a gothloli MC? Untranslated is fine.

>>150449551
there IS one WN in which the male MC reincarnates as a loli vampire, but I forgot its convoluted name

>>150449543
You care enough to reply, lol.

Please provide any examples that were "ripped off" by Release that Witch so I can read them too and see if they're any good.

>>150449579
>the male MC reincarnates as a loli vampire
it's always nice when the author projects his desires through wish fulfillment

>>150449612
recommendations go here >>>/wsr/

>>150449579
Yeah, Kyuuketsuhime. Already read that, liked it in the beginning but the ending was absolute shit.

>>150449551
>>150449579
Kyuuketsu Hime wa Barairo no Yume o Miru

There's also

The Reincarnated Vampire Wants an Afternoon Nap

Neither is particularly good.

>>150449639
I'm not asking for your recommendations. I'm asking you to prove where RTW ripped things off from so I can read those to verify for myself.

>>150437881
>>150440022
>It's always the same truck
>It's actually a decepticon

>>150447321
I don't know, Kazuma has a pretty big ego sometimes. Just that it always gets him killed. Thank goodness he picked Aqua or else he would have died an even more pointless death.

If you read isekai, then you have to possess some self realization that you have shit taste. Isekai novels are generally shit, but I read them because they're fun and I probably have shit taste.

>>150449703
Your autism is showing, put it away, you dumb gook.

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Have you praised your new lord and savior <<Sakamoto666>> yet?

>>150449843
didn't the WN get canceled for plagiarism or some shit?

>the Gods are the BBEG
Why do ln authors tend to make religious figures a symbol of hate

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>>150449865
It takes a special kind of human being to be accused of plagiarism on fucking Shousetsuka ni Narou of all places.

>>150448551
It's implied in Konosuba.

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>>150449887
To make it relatable by mirror reality, of course.

>>150449843
>tfw he actually has TWO novel series published

https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=119709

>My name is Saito courage, but just an ordinary high school student.
And, this is my status when I arrived in a different world.

HP1
MP1
Power 1
Quickness 65535
Defense force 65535

>"Hagureme Yes Lumpur or! "And it became want put tsukkomi, Well, mon was it went became unavoidable.
>I massaged you leave Defeat Satan as brave as a bonus ....
>Even if the Nigemawaru using to maximize the quickness and defense force, and ...... Na's that guy ...... difficulty Nightmare which is beset risk of death blow at any time.
>Is covered, the brave guys's a sarcasm of guys that have been summoned together, the other worst to be the hub. The other, Nanttsuka, bullying.
>Just because my status is a pity, is restructuring declaration from the king, and to be discarded out of the country by peeling Migurumi ...... another Jada this life.

>- But, however, he had not noticed. Notation of "1" of his status, ...... that unit is that it Nayuta.
>※ The truth = 10^60 = 100000000000000000 ......... 0000.

>Progresses All told, the strongest hero of the story that convinced himself to be the weakest

>>150449809
What a weak-ass reply, lol. No wonder you were desperately trying to bait shit. You most likely have shit taste too.

>>150449803
No, it's just that endless rehash of the same fucking formula turns out to churn poor quality shits.

Then you realize the isekai that twists the formula in interesting ways like in every other genre magically becomes good.

Kenkyo Kenjitsu, My Disciple Died Yet Again, The Girl Who Ate a Death God, I’ll Live My Second Life!, Akuyaku Tensei are all great. Kumo Desu ga is okay too.

>>150449887
It is to show the victory of man's emancipation and his knowledge and mastery of science over the old ways that are represented through superstition, ancient deities and laws that kept him powerless.

Or something like that.

We must kill the old to show that we are better than it.

>>150449919
Pretty much everything bad in that world was due to Isekai'd individuals coming over and fucking shit up.

>>150448413
Well, the first book was christians invade and ruin everything.

Still waiting for the inevitable full-meta

>I was a failed isekai WN writer until I got sent to another world and became a best-seller!

>>150437881
>>everyone loves muh japanese food

I always find this funny as fuck, specially if the MC shouldnt know how to cook or what are the ingredients (being a NEET that depends on their family to survive) aside from the main meat, how do you replicate a sauce if you only know the name and dont have a idea how is made or from what?

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>>150449551
This maybe?

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>>150450114
but anon, you just need to level up your Cooking I skill and find a recipe book! Then the knowledge will magically appear in your head!

>>150450085
Those aren't as funny as you think.

You got to know which tropes to turn on their head, focus on worldbuilding, stop trying to turn it into thinly-veiled fap material to self-insert to, make characters banter in hilarious ways, and have mini-arcs that are mostly contained except foreshadowing the next big thing.

Stuff like Konosuba is great. Release the Witch does this too, and I'm not going to stop recommending it since it's vastly underrated.

>>150450175
>liquid looks like semen
every time

>>150446209
>4/10 for shieldbro
Yeah i understand why wouldn't it be your cup of tea

>>150449913
>plagiarism on fucking Shousetsuka ni Narou
How can that even happen there of all places?

He must've really pissed somebody off.

>>150449998
>destroyer
>crimson magic clan
>body swaping artifact
>Aigis
>the demon king

And all this can somehow be traced back into Aqua.

>>150448551
Some of the villains and antagonists in shieldbro come from other worlds

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>tfw out of fucks to give

*1.　*1,417,661　Kimi no Na wa. (Kadokawa Bunko)
*2.　*1,174,562　Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo!
*3.　*1,020,673　Sword Art Online
*4.　*1,007,381　Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu
*5.　**,711,154　Overlord
*6.　**,602,256　Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei
*7.　**,562,187　No Game No Life
*8.　**,450,791　Monogatari Series
*9.　**,449,192　Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka
10.　**,435,482　Kokuhaku Yokou Renshuu Series

11.　**,422,569　Boukyaku Tantei Series
12.　**,380,144　Hai to Gensou no Grimgar
13.　**,361,088　Sword Art Online: Progressive
14.　**,294,478　Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken
15.　**,292,746　Bungou Stray Dogs "Dazai Osamu no Nyuusha Shiken"
16.　**,287,728　Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut
17.　**,282,826　Kimi no Na wa. Another Side: Earthbound
18.　**,282,077　Netgame no Yome wa Onna no Ko ja Nai to Omotta?
19.　**,281,195　Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index
20.　**,256,782　Haikyuu!! Shousetsu-ban!!

21.　**,236,127　Kagerou Daze
22.　**,225,229　Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! Spin-off
23.　**,195,199　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
24.　**,185,710　Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru.
25.　**,181,314　Ensemble Stars!
26.　**,180,275　Imouto sae Ireba Ii.
27.　**,174,175　Orange
28.　**,168,542　Gakusen Toshi Asterisk
29.　**,163,829　Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records
30.　**,162,562　Date A Live

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>>150450364
>*4.　*1,007,381　Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu

nice anime boost onii-san

>>150450364
>Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut
how did THIS get on the list?

>>150447321
being reading the fanfic, and boy this shit make me laugh, the characters are clearly self centered,but have some saving traits but as many have say in-universe, Kazuma may be a lazy, selfish and egocentric jerk and maybe wont be going out of his way to help people for every little thing, but when shit hits the fan, he gets shit done.

>>150450364
>SAO
>20fucking16
>1 million

Japan's shit taste knows no bounds.

>>150450175
I hate that.

Writers need to do their research and stop being so fucking lazy. But then

>effort
>webnovel/lightnovels

Everything I can recommend always focus on really good worldbuilding to get into the nit and grit of things. If they can't even be bothered with looking up cooking recipes online to put into their work, the rest of the story is likely total shit.

>>150441725
>>suddenly hit by a japanese truck
Is this the true hand of fate?

>>150450175
The only time I have seen this happening was Konosuba, in others serie, the MC is too busy being a hero withouth any real goal or freezing each time his harem does something.

>>150443582
>We call that being humble and testing the water. Yes you gain super special ability but the moment those secret organization heard of you due to your outburst, you're done for.
What if you pretended to be a god and became Isekai Jesus?

>>150450521
What I fucking hate of japan, is that with how popular stuff like harem is, and the shit tons of haremshit that exist, is how the same 2 archetype of girls are the one that win like 90% of the stuff.

>>150450497
Konosuba is great and I can't wait for the second season of the anime.

Actually, pretty much any time I get into some web/light novel and start thinking "hey this shit can be a great anime" that's when I feel I'm reading something worth recommending.

Too bad none of the great Chinese or Korean ones are going to get anything. And most of those Japanese ones have terrible adaptations.

>>150450668
lurk more newshit

off the top of my head, sword art online, moonlight sculptor and new gate all did this

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>>150450740
are you seeing the pattern yet?

One premise I would like to see is for a series or story centered around a denizen of the modern world who initially revels at being sent to a medieval one but, after being faced with the reality of what that entails, spends the rest of the story trying to return home.

Example:

Guy ends up in a medieval world, except it's more like actual 13th century Europe than Dragon Quest. After a couple of episodes that thoroughly lampoon how stupid anyone could be for wanting to live in a world where no one has any concept of the germ theory of disease, sanitation, or public health and where the general human condition is one of widespread poverty due to a lack of human capital, the protagonist realizes the value of the things that he took for granted and spends the rest of the series trying to find a way to return home.

Simply showing the realities of premodern life without any exaggerations (ie how the life expectancy of someone living in the cities of the Roman Empire was 25 and how your average woman would likely have completely lost her looks by the time she was 23 or 24 due to bad health and no cosmetics) would make for an incredible series that, unfortunately, no one would ever buy.

>>150450777
oh yea SAO did it, but after going full harem, I forgot of that detail.

>>150450364
>*5.　**,711,154　Overlord

It only had 2 novels this year, it's gonna be a 300K+ seller once the movies come out.

>>150450817
yeah, Japan likes Burger girls more than Sushi girls

>>150450817
I mean, if you are going to make so much haremshit, why dont let other type of girl win? and avoid having a fucking obvious main girl fromt chapter 1.

>ISIS weeb blows himself up and reawakens in an isekai
>Initially convinced it's paradise and tries to collect his virgin harem

>>150450817
These cherry picking.

>>150450963
>medieval world
>almost all the girls are taken or have been already raped
>nobody will let him take their daughters since he seem like a foreign with no monay on him.

>>150450963
>tries to spread his religion into the world
>everthing seems good after converting a small town
>main religious group of the world finds out.

>>150439548
Later on in this particular series, he forms an army, sends it to take over a country and personally kicks the shit out of the demon army because of an agreement he made.

>>150451091
wow that sounds really unique, interesting and special, we've never seen anything like it

>>150450963
>>ISIS weeb blows himself up IN A JAPANESE TRUCK and reawakens in an isekai

fixed

>>150451118
japanese truck: 1 NEET

french truck: 200 dead

step it up, yellow untermensch

>>150448725
If you don't know what you are talking about. Don't talk about it

>>150438351
>Sounds like Death March except for the truck.
Not death march. The MC refuses to help most people. But he does use his knowledge and godlike abilities to create a super profitable business (which mostly runs itself to the point where he has no tedious work at all and just reaps the benefits like any fantasy business owner (no work, super benefits)) and that business is what the author uses to hire less fortunate people to make the MC look less selfish.

Otherwise, the Death March main character is very much like the typical multimillionaire man in real life minus the fantasy powers. Such rich men own businesses that employ people. And they help their most immediate and dear friends. In that way they resemble the death march MC quite a bit in terms of philanthropy.

>>150451610
>The MC refuses to help most people.

literally just teleported the population of the biggest city seen so far into his personal pocket dimension to save them from angels in the last chapter, all because he didn't want civilians to die

stop fucking lying, dipshit

>>150437881
>do not abuse any of it and pretend to be weak

That's just selfishness. The person doesn't want to feel obligated to help anyone. So they don't.

It's just the like the fans of these stories. They don't want to use their powers to help a lot of others. Only in a few "feel good" examples do they help others. Or when it gets to the end of the story where they save the world by helping a lot, but only then.

>>150449471
>Atelier Iris the LN
I've read every chapter with enthusiasm.

>>150450817
Shit girls lose?

>>150450777
>three examples
>literally video games

Hm.

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ITT triggered isekaifags

>muh isekai is unique and completely different from all other isekai
>muh isekai protagonist is very realistic
>isekai xxx is better than xyz
>i-isekai is not a genre!
>read the ln

>>150450777
arent those basically trapped in a videogame?

There is a difference withing fantasy world and a videogame.

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>>150450361
Meh.

>>150451832
I'm glad you like it. It really is like Atelier Iris with all that tinkering shit, huh?

I just hope the english translators could translate faster. The original Chinese writer churns out chapters MORE THAN ONCE A DAY.

The problem is it's always NEETs or high schoolers or office workers. An isekai with a craftsman or academic or even artist would be a breath of fresh air.

Also enough with the harems.

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>>150448238
Because they are better than nothing if you are looking for escapism.

What's not to like about Arifurita for example? Trapped alone in a cave, he can invent in a matter of minutes without tools a science that doesn't use tools. Then in another few minutes the science of physics which he doesn't know. Then a short time after that anti-matter nuclear technology and tools to contain and manipulate anti-matter. Then he invents the railgun weaponry. Then in minutes it is time to invent the antimatter railgun for real firepower. And to prevent inconvenience, all his weapons are automatically (no thought needed) reloaded with ammunition from the magical dimension. That way no large or heavy magazines either. And all weapons are small and light enough to be one-handed wields in both carry and usage. And these railguns are not slow ones. They shoot 20,000 (twenty thousand) antimatter rounds per minute. Antimatter is also well-designed so that it doesn't rebound in his face.

I am sure that the MC would also be able to re-design all stars and black holes too. After all, when your skills are great, you can do it. Thus, the redesigned stars or black holes would allow him to stand next to them without being damaged. They know who he is of course.

Arifurita. Love it. And if you repeat all the logical defense comments from SAO fans, the Arifurita MC acquired all of his skills legitimately thru hard work and effort. Anyone that disparages him for being a mary sue character is wrong.

>>150452636
>Also enough with the harems.
the entire point of isekai is to self-insert and live out your fantasy, unfortunately

>>150450853
Sasuga Ainz-sama.

>>150452830
>hard work and effort
Well most of them were monster skills he had to eat monster to get, the others like the world magics yeah those were difficult to get.

>>150446209
Is the New Gate really isekai?

>>150452866
There are better fantasies than harems surely.

>>150452830
The only reason i read that garbage is for good dungeon design and the fact it will end in 30 chapters.
God the MC must be the second cringiest protag after Deprived Person.

>>150452636
>An isekai with a craftsman or academic or even artist would be a breath of fresh air.

Mechanical Engineer MC, dead from overwork. Release that Witch.

>>150452830
That's mostly because most WN/LN writers have absolutely no clue how any of the stuff they write about ACTUALLY works.

Nothing about how guns are made. Nothing about the ignition in bullets. Nothing about rifling, about metal composition, about experimenting to find the best metal compounds, the re-discovery of elements one forgot in chemistry class, messing around with chemical reactions to re-invent something the MC saw before but don't exactly remember...

It's the RIDE that shows legitimate hard work and effort. Magicking shit like railguns and antimatter bullshit up just makes the whole thing a fucking joke.

>>150450114
>how do you replicate a sauce if you only know the name and dont have a idea how is made or from what

You just do it.
Make the sauce and it's done. The author doesn't address or deal with tedious issues in these types of stories.

Arifureta
Konjiki no Moji Tsukai
Nidome no Yuusha
To Deprive a Deprived Person
Yobidasa Reta Satsuriku-sha

See? not even single one turn in to decent story.
Why do you want an MC who abused his power?

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>>150446209
>All isekai I'm currently reading/watching and in which medium:

Thank you for the list and the ordered recommendation level. I will check them out.

>>150452940
between being surrounded by guys or a bunch of girls, most guys would pick girls

>>150453059
Have another text dump as a teaser for why I like RTW so much:

Roland had already corrected designs for the Revolver’s bullet a long time ago. After all, circular lead bullets and loose gunpowder were an arrangement that was simply too archaic. Taking Anna’s processing capacity into account, it should be feasible for her to directly manufacture the shell for the ammunition. The problem was that there didn’t exist a reliable primer, which could light the cartridge of the bullet that was filled with black powder.

The outer shell of the ammunition was generally made out of mercury fulminate which was very sensitive to impacts. When the firing pin was pulled and it hit the base of the bullet, the mercury fulminate would ignite, which would ignite the black powder, ejecting the bullet from the chamber.

It was such a pity that even after breaking his head over it, he still couldn’t recall the necessary raw materials he needed for the mercury fulminate. From a literal point of view, he would definitely need nitric acid and mercury. However, if he looked at the result of the chemical equation he had written down, it became apparent that these two substances would only produce nitric acid together.

In addition, knowing the raw materials wasn’t equally to having a smooth production of usable products. Roland would still have to discover the right concentration and temperature for the reactive process, and whether he still needed to add another catalyst or not add one, was also a crucial point he had to figure out before finishing the product.

Moreover, because of the sensitive properties of mercury, manufacturing it was considered a very dangerous process and if it exploded one could easily lose some fingers, so Roland was afraid of trying it out personally.

>>150453242
So, Roland had to settle for the second-best option, using a metal ammunition case but keeping the old flintlock ignition, which would require that the spark could enter the interior of the ammunition case to ignite the gunpowder. Therefore, he had to leave a hole at the bottom of the ammunition case, but he still had to find a method which would prevent leakage of black powder.

Obviously, these two points were contradictory to each other: the greater the opening, the faster the leakage of gunpowder. Yet if the opening is too small, it would become too difficult for the spark to ignite the gunpowder.

He needed something that would allow the spark to ignite the powder, while at the same time blocking the hole, to prevent the leakage of gunpowder.

Roland first thought was colloxylin, which was also known as nitrocellulose.

It was also one of the few chemicals which he still remembered and could also be used for weapons because it had such a simple production method: the cotton had just to be soaked in two strong kinds of acids. The two acids it used were the commonly available sulfuric acid and nitric acid, and there would be no danger involved in producing them. Even though he still had wanted to wait for the hopefully soon, arriving alchemist, but now, where he had the deadline of seven days, he decided to roll up his sleeves and get to work.

Taking the quill, Roland began to write down the idea he had already in his head for a long time.

The first ingredient he needed was cotton, and the best cotton yarn were the ones which weren’t weaved or dyed and it was exactly this kind that he had brought back with him from his visit to the Duke’s castle, and was now also piling up within his castle’s warehouses. Cotton yarn needed to be skimmed. Otherwise the grease attached to its surface would prevent the nitrification.

>>150453276
He was already familiar with the stuff required for removing the oil, it was sodium hydroxide, which was also commonly known as caustic soda. At the same time, it was also one of the raw materials needed for making soap: For producing soap, one had to add fat to caustic soda, and then stir it until it became solid. Afterward it could be used as washing soap. But Roland has been too busy developing the industrial and agricultural technology and with defending Border Town against foreign enemies, that he hadn’t found any time to invent any such commodities.

As for how he was meant to produce caustic soda, the simplest method would probably be the electrolysis of salt water. So the Prince discovered, that in order to create the new types of bullets, he first had to develop a DC Generator.

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See what I'm talking about? A writer showing his research for once. A logical flow of inventions required for each step, making readers fully aware of how great the industrial revolution REALLY was. How much humanity was standing on the shoulders of GIANTS in the modern world.

Instead of I MAGIC EVERYTHING LOL as a lazy copout. So what did RTW rip off on because I want to read those too!

>>150453350
Which series is this again? I've been binging on Isekai and I might want to push this to the top of my list.

>>150453443
Ah, I see it now. Had it under its Jap name in my library.

>>150450361
Which site is that?

>>150453715
http://www.novelupdates.com/
Never go to the forums, they're putrid.

>>150453350
If this is one I'm thinking of, I dropped this in its first chapters because of how fucking arrogant and presumptions the main character was on witches. I mean he just appears in setting, learns that the locals hunt witches and instead of wondering if they have reason he goes full arrogant fedora on how witches couldn't possibly be evil and its all the unenlightened primitives misconceptions. I mean really this is obviously a new world,atleast entertain the concept of witches being different here than in your world.

>>150450963
>After he got slashed to death by a passing knight for attempted rape, writer reveal MC is the knight.
>MC is a part of a knighthood that investigate portals that keep dropping human refuse into their country causing all kind of heinous crimes.
>Now MC and his reluctant allies have to stop the portal invaders while figuring out the mystery behind the portals.
>Final fight is between the knight and notMuhammad.

>>150437881
Imagine This: Fuuka gets hit by a truck, and then the entire rest of the manga it is her in an alternate world, and it's escaflowne. The entire manga was to establish the world she came from and then transplant her in an alternate world.

Would you like it?

>>150453800
Yeah the beginning chapters were sort of rough.

He didn't believe in witches being actually magical, until the witch almost burned his face off and melted the iron bars in the cage after he yanked that stone holding her back. I was surprised nobody died from that.

Then he wised up a lot. I would encourage you to keep reading after that.

>>150453523
>>150453443
It's got a jap name? I want to see how japs think about it.

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Do fantasy life do-over stories count as Isekai? They use most of the same cliches.

>>150453948
spoonfeed me the title

>>150454001
The Mage Will Master Magic Efficiently In His Second Life. It's pretty dull.

>>150453948
Dominion's End is pretty interesting.

>zombie apocalypse
>magical powers are awakened at the start of it
>FeMC was pretty useless, eventually gets abandoned
>reincarnates to before the start of the apocalypse in a male body
>it's also a parallel timeline where names of the continents are changed and who knows what else
>eventually encounters some other people who have reincarnated
>also meets a person who timejumped their entire body over

>>150445616
>>guys have you seen Tate no Yuusha? It's not like the others
Actually, that's true. Tate is shit in it's own special way.

>>150453855
It's certainly self insert enough

>>150446910
For fun, why else?


>oh holy shit look at those cheat powers and how powerful I am compared to entire kingdoms!

>Ima gonna use them all the time and conquer everything, remodeling the world to my liking

>GG, you cleared the game, commence boredom in 3... 2... 1...

So yeah, you can kill kingdom-destroying dragon with a sneeze. What difference does it make if its a dragon or a fly?

Or maybe you decided to not keep it secret how strong you are? Good job, now every time some dragon attacks pitiful humans will line up their dead bodies at your doorstep untill you get tired of this and decide to go sneeze at dragon to get some peace. Untill another one shows up.

OP powers make everything boring, even average protagonist is aware of it.

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>>150454511

>>150455378
>Boku no isekai loli harem: my tanuki is also now my nakama?!

>>150448761
>roland and tilly getting along by chapter 407

Aw that's sweet, does he ever give Garcia what she deserves for poisoning original Roland and thrusting him into the isekai world? I can't stomach machine translation shit.

>>150449703
>>150449965
He was talking about the art. It's ripped straight out of dragon's crown and makes one question the originality of his written work.

>>150455488
Now that you put it that way it does sound silly.

I liked Escaflowne because the MC was a useless piece of shit 95% of the time

>>150455591
It all went to shit when he started his slave village.

My pedantic meta complaint

>someone talks about something that sucks in isekai stories
>it's actually not an isekai thing and is in every shitty fantasy story with a non-isekai MC too

>>150455730
I'm not sure how much of its going to be featured in the LN but there's more arcs featuring stuff like raphtalia's birth country. tfw probably no new seven sins arc

Ixion Saga DT was also pretty good

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>>150455919
You just get used to people on 4chan bitching for the sake of bitching, it's what this place is for. Fun is dead.

Why no one has reincarnated as a murdertruck is beyond me.

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>>150440022
This is the stuff nightmares are made from

>>150457212
>MC was a Japanese truck driver
>one day he pulled over his truck but forgot to put the emergency brakes on
>he left the truck because of reasons
>before he knew it, the truck was going downhill and ran him over
>he's been "reincarnated" as that same exact Japanese truck he used to drive and can only reincarnate into his next life if he kills 100 people

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>>150437881
Western fantasy books manage to do the same.
Without the "another world" part.

Does that make them better?
YES. IT FUCKING DOES.

>>150443312
I like Dungeon Defense, it's pretty edgy but whatever.

>>150457377
>Has to hide out in the forests and murder innocent adventurers because a huge metal beast in a medival fantasy would bring too much attention
>Rumors spread of a metal monster in the woods with a deep rumbling roar and glowing eyes and strange tracks
>One time he lures an adventurer inside and goes full Death Proof on them.
>Unlocks the ability to harden and repair himself with the blood of his enemies

>>150440022
YOU CANNOT ESCAPE THE JAPANESE TRUCK!

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>>150457212
Ovallord had this happen.

>>150457573
He became a skeleton though, not a japanese truck

>>150457662
But he drove the murdertruck to the isekai world.

>>150457779
Are you being metaprohical? I think I'd remember a skeleton driving a truck.

>>150455919
That happens.
But still, the main complaint about isekai is - that it is in fact - isekai.

If the dumb japs want to write fantasy they should just do it, why add this self insert shit trope in every fucking LN though? Why?

Well they're pretty bad at fantasy regardless, but isekai doesn't make it any better, if anything it allows them to be even lazier and they start adding jrpg and mmo shit because - herp derp that's the only way a jap reborn in another dimension will be able to do magic.

At least in that one LN where the guy starts off as a baby or a small kid or whatever he had to learn some shit first.

>>150457812
>I think I'd remember a skeleton driving a truck.
Would've made that LN at least partially enjoyable.

>>150457978
>Thrown into a world where your only feasible profession is an adventurer and your only weapon is a truck

>>150439548
thanks for this. it's a pretty decent read even if the MC is overpowered (like in most isekai). at least his "harem" doesn't seem particularly interested in him in the romantic sense, which is new.

Is there any "Japanese teenager reincarnates as little girl then he becomes a slut" LN/WN?

>>150446209
great list anon!

>>150458139
Sounds perfect for an H-game set-up. Thanks for the idea.

>>150456587
No chapter of DD today huh?
IRISU-SAMA SUGOI

>>150440022
brb watching yyh for the 10th time.

let's be real here, the closest to a "decent" isekai anime is konosuba, and the only reason is because the MC has 0 (zero) op abilities, plus it's a comedy, an isekai should be like that, nobody gives a fuck if the author wants to materialize his chunnibyou bullshit into his story with a cool MC that can do anything, the genre could be good if authors avoided that constantly.

>>150458709
>konosuba
>not shit

>>150458709
>I know nothing about anything but here's my opinion
But that's /a/, everyone is a expert on everything here.

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>>150458729
You are correct. It is good.

>>150448301
Oh man, I forgot how much I enjoyed those books back in my childhood (especially the Narnia series), I would totally re-read them.

>>150448522
Was ever explained in the Shield Bro series as to why they can see little windows out of nowhere wich displays information and statistics?

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>>150448584
>Implying Seo would ever make something different

>>150450818
>look at me DECONSTRUCTING everything, aren't I so smart!
Nigga just doing the opposite thing that everyone else is doing isn't going to get you anywhere. It's just a knee jerk hipster reaction.

No your idea isn't good and it wouldn't necessarily be an incredible series because ideas are a dime a dozen and it's all about the execution. Also
>average lifespan meme
Childhood mortality, read about it.

>>150446209
>Re: Zero 6/10
>Dungeon Seeker 1/10

How does it feel to be a human with such plebeian tastes?

>>150458709
He does have some OP abilities though. With his rediculously high luck stat and a goddess in his pocket he is hardly your average peasant.

>>150450364
Is there a single LN worth reading in this whole list? Except Konosuba and Monogatari

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>>150453948

Anyone else reading Bootleg Naruto?

>>150459418
>nature's prophet
china sure likes dota

>>150458790
>everything I don't like is shit!
>stop liking shit!
really makes you think

>>150457920
Kind of. You could have like some middle aged archeologist discover a parallel world through some ancient tech and have a decent isekai fantasy story with minimal self insert elements. I mean the self-insert trope and a lot of the shit that your prototypical isekai story has is present in your prototypical fantasy story too. Usually just more subtle and less in your face but it's still there.

Take the unassuming, average farmboy who becomes a chosen one despite having no knowledge of sword and sorcery. They're in the middle of bumfuck nowhere so that he's a clueless know nothing discovering the cool and exotic part of his world. Just like the audience. They also tend to be the least offensive member of the cast which sadly leads to way more interesting side characters. So that the audience can identify with them more easily. Hey this sort of sounds like Luke Skywalker or Harry Potter. (Yes, not 1:1 though)

Now there are good reasons for this to an extent, like allowing for exposition in a weird world with weird rules. But at the same time it can be taken too far and the MC never breaks the mould and just kind of sucks. Of course it's way way more shameless in nip isekai stories but it's worth acknowledging the same shit exists in some beloved series.

It's taking a useful trope and using it to make power fantasies, unfortunately.

>>150460048
>Hey this sort of sounds like Luke Skywalker or Harry Potter. (Yes, not 1:1 though)
Why didn't you pick any actual shitty fantasy character that fits ALL those cliches?

Like Eragon.

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>>150459537
I just don't understand, if I always got upset about everything I don't like I'd end up in a hospital due to high blood pressure. Why is it easier to bitch about things instead of enjoying what you like and avoiding things you don't? But then again someone's gonna call me out for wanting to make this place into a hugbox. Have a edgy waifu from a LN I like.