Flip Flappers

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The one where they almost die that results in Cocona no longer needing glasses.

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>>150378056
>Mimi took Salt's vision away from him
>grants it to Cocona

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Marimite with lesbians world.

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What now?

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>>150377950

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>>150378049
Don't know how to feel about this.

>>150378316
make up kissu

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>>150377950
That one, OP.

>>150378320
The episode didn't really do the city justice. It wasn't this colorful, just dark.

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The one with best boy.

>>150377950
The madmax/Northstar ep.

>>150378320
The Grid. A digital frontier. I tried to picture clusters of information as they moved through the computer. What did they look like? Ships? Motorcycles? Were the circuits like freeways? I kept dreaming of a world I thought I'd never see. And then one day

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The one from 7th ep because empty cities are my fetish

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>Cockona

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>>150377950
Mad Max Yuri Road obviously. I want Papika's desert cape back.

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We'll see how Papika the Bravest saved both Cocona and the fragment at the end of the first episode

>>150378049
>That Didgeridubstep
Impressive

>>150379422
>I saved your fragment, Mimi

>>150378829
That's not Pops

>>150379162
Stop with this already, you fucking retard.

>>150379422
I love the noise she makes after this line.

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Who the hell types like this? Who is his girlfriend?

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>>150379638
>Who is his girlfriend?

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I miss surfer Papika.

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>>150379719
He's back tomorrow

>>150379719
I miss senpai.

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FlipFlap is gonna kill me with all this cuteness.

>>150379589
It only lasted this long because it gets replies every time

>>150379757
I wonder if we'll see how it comes back. What if it's just a replacement and not the one that was pulled out to sea? Perhaps it had a way to be tracked and they retrieved it off screen.

>>150379638
I l type just like that, except I use the middle finger on my left hand and the index on my right. I dislike full-finger touch typing because moving ring and pinky fingers quickly is uncomfortable and their range of motion is awkwardly limiting.

>>150379831
I wonder how many anons are posting "Cockona".

>>150379905
Holy shit, are you rheumatic or what?

>>150379926
I liked ">Flapika" better.

>>150379831
Let's not kid ourselves, it gets nothing more often than it gets anything, and the "anything" it gets is typically just someone tired of it and telling them to fuck off. The autist posting it in every thread isn't doing it for replies, it's just a habit they've become obsessive about repeating, just like all other generalfaggotry.

>>150379321
This.

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>>150377950
The ED

>>150379831
It gets posted regardless of if it gets replies. It's made by one very dedicated shitposter neet once in every thread that has a Flip Flap imaging in the OP.

>>150377950

Mad Max one.

>>150379933
If I was, then the wrist motion necessary to type like this would probably be impossible.

I prefer it because I have nerve damage in my right hand that makes precise finger movements impossible. It doesn't limit motion in my wrist or arm, so I use those primarily to accurately guide my finger to the keys. My left hand has no such injury but it's awkward using 4 fingers with one hand and 1 with the other, so I just use the middle finger to keep my typing pace symmetrical.

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That's not Salt's fancy chair

>>150379981
I can't say I disagree. It offers no point for discussion and it's just boring. At the VERY least don't use it as an OP post please.

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>>150378397

Tch.

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>>150380040
Yayaka is the witch.

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>>150380441

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NANDA OMAE?

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>Dr. Salt, I'm Mimi

>>150380273
Papika fucking blew it. The Coconabowl has already been won by Yayaka.

Flip flapping, flip flapping

>>150380525
I-it gets bigger!

>>150377950
I really liked a lot the haunted school one

>>150380536
Do you think Salt would?

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>>150379162
>>150379638
>>150380536

This really is a general now. Fuck.

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>>150380632
Purge us for our own good. Burn it all down so that on thursday, we may rebuild.

>>150380632
>now

>>150380767
I can live with one of these, but they're getting more and more.

>>150380536
>Uh, you don't get to bring fragments

>>150380632
>first post i make in a FF thread in days
>woah buddy, stop being a general
Fuck you too Papika

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>>150380899
And your last post was 'Who's her boyfriend?'

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What are the odds Yayakat wins the Coconabowl?

>>150380899
I can't tell which one of these three that post is supposed to be. I've seen them over and over again in every thread. They're not funny and have no value for discussion.
They're shitposting that hurt any actual discussion and the reputation of this show.

>>150380949
Not really, it was something about Pops.

>>150381026
Non-existant.

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>>150381026
Zero.

>>150381026
0 because there is no Coconabowl.

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>>150380273
I think we should see other people.

>>150380632
I think I'm starting to see a trend with the threads now that we're at episode 9. Wednesday is the day people build up their excitement for a new episode and the reposters get antsy. The threads are at their best when the episode is fresh in the minds of the viewers and there is enough fuel for interesting discussion(Thursdays-Friday maybe Saturday). Of course those threads still have shitposts of a different nature, but it's not as saturated as it is in threads later into the weekend and before the next episode.

>>150381058
>look at how much i care about discussion
>that's why i'm metaposting instead of talking about things which i feel should be talked about more and/or introducing new topics of discussion

>>150377950
The creepy school with the creepy doll. You could probably fuck the students and they wouldn't mind as long as you can put up with their weird greetings and endless loop.

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>>150381104
>>150381073
But Puppyka only loves Mimi. Cocona is just a cheap simulacrum. Yayaka is Cocona's true and honest love.

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>>150381026
For real, only if Papika dies.

>>150381117
Sunday is the worst, monday can be comfy, tuesday has the preview and the threads can get interesting again.

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>>150381154
Just who is Mimi really?

>>150381260
Mimi is a meme and non-existent. For now

>>150381145
>You could probably fuck the students
I bet it would be a black void just like their faces.

>>150381117
Slow as a rabbit. That goes mostly for every thread.
>>150381260
I am Mimi, ask me anything.

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>>150381260
Papika's ex-girlfriend. She still thinks about her.

>>150381117
Thursday threads are the trashiest of them all because they're full of driveby shitposters. Once those leave is the best time.

>>150381345
This. There is an equilibrium when enough shitposters leave, yet enough regular posters are still there and before the generalfags take over.

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>made cookies for senpai
>Blushes at Yayaka
Kokomine Cocona, a woman stripped of her shame.

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OST when?
Artbooks when?
Also I wonder who'll be depicted on the next BD covers and how they will look in this fairytale style

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>>150381192
"I'm so sorry, Cocona. It was a real tragedy that her new hoverboard had a malfunction!"

>>150381192
anon, please eat these words.

There is no way Puppyka is going to die, r-right ?

>>150381545
I wonder if the covers will show other characters than cocopuppy

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>>150381512
Senpai is fucking ruined. I hope Cocona suffers especially now that her canine lover can't even remember her name.

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>>150381117
It really depends. Sometimes the stuff going on in a given episode takes some time and a rewatch or 2 to parse. We've had weeks where wednesday night explodes into a series of text walls analyzing new insights and discussing interpretations of fresh observations, and we've also had weeks where that doesn't happen. It can be unpredictable how much discussion an episode gets and how long it takes to really get going. Episode 6 didn't have much discussion until after episode 7 aired, because you really need those two together to make more sense of things.

This gem cropped up last night, apparently. I;m liking how being 8 episodes down the rabbithole now gives us a chance to revisit some of the theories and speculation we had in the earlier episodes and position them in the wider context of the show now that we know so much more.

>>150381767
This is not a gem though

>>150381743
Senpai is no longer going to appear in the series.

>>150381117
So you mean just like every thread for an airing anime?

>>150381743
>Puppyka suffering magic alzheimer
Pottery. Divine justice. Maybe Cocona should ask dorito senpai for advice on how to deal with this.

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>>150381767
I refuse to acknowledge any speculah that has Papika dying. If I refuse it enough it won't happen. Cocona and Papika will be happy together in the end.

>>150380441
All the tch's >>>/wsg/1420299

>>150381803
I like the bit about Papika being an inner child rather than aunt flo or an idealized yuri love interest. It makes me think of the dynamic between Yayaka and papika as one of a tug-o-war between contrary forces, with Yayaka representing a sort of emergence into young adulthood and Papika representing the childish state preceding it. Cocona is caught in between them, sort of like how she's caught in between being a kid and being an adult.

The whole idea that the underlying theme is about change and Cocona's fear of it is more interesting to me than a lot of the previous speculah about masturbation and menses, and I like how it connects the themes of the earlier episodes to some of the heavier stuff the recent ones have been dealing with.

>>150381767
>Episode 6 didn't have much discussion until after episode 7 aired, because you really need those two together to make more sense of things.
No issue with the rest of your post but this is false

>>150381954
>Cocona and Papika will be happy together in the end.
I think this is true, but I also think there's about a 70% chance of Disappearance of Papika.

>>150382045
A well executed bittersweet ending would really make this show memorable.
I'm trying not to lift my expectations too high though.

>>150382045
With all the stuff about Iroha fromt he last 3 episodes, I think we're going towards a sort of "have your cake and eat it too" kind of ending. Cocona will get over her anxiety, come out of her shell, but still continue having fun adventures with Papika because getting something new doesn't mean losing what you had before. I'm expecting the epilogue to include her finally deciding on which highschool to apply to before going off to play with Papika.

>>150382126
It'd be more memorable if it ends in some sort of left field unexpected way. Bittersweet ending is about as typical as it could get, even though I wouldn't complain if it's executed well

>>150381973
Anyone have that webm of all the noises Papika makes?

>>150381767
>PKK dies
>YYK wins
good

>>150382263
https://streamable.com/ri9n

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>>150382180
This right here is where I lean too. Coming of age stories tend to be just as much about what you give up when you grow up. But what if we focus instead on the fact that adulthood doesn't mean giving up who you are or what you love? Yes there are changes but we grow with those changes and can still love the same things along with new things that come with adulthood.

It's partially due to me just being a shipperfag but I don't really feel a bittersweet ending would work too well. This show has, aside from individual episodes tugging on heartstrings (with iroha) been generally very upbeat with how it's treated our main characters. Honestly if one show could pull a pure GOOD END and do it well it would be this show.

>>150381989
All this stuff is a vehicle for Cocona to grow up. By the end with or without Papika, the magic will disappear and she'll become a confident lady and a respectabl member of society minus being a lesbian.

>>150382357
How on earth could you want this to disappear at the end. Papika is too pure for the world.

>>150382388
Why do you want to ruin all of Cocona's development?

>>150382385
It's also hard to see any character growth which "grows" Papika out of Cocona's life as being a positive one. I thinka stay-together ending would just work better in making the tone and emotional resonance of the finale better fit the message

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>>150381323

>>150382385
Penguindrum end would be ace

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/11/30/feature-queer-discovery-in-flip-flappers
It begins

>>150382693
I will never, ever get tired of westerners who think yuri is somehow socially progressive instead of just being a form of fetishization.

>>150382727
worse are the ones who call it out yet drool at the male gay fetishization on yuri on ice as if it was some kind of breakthrough for media

>>150382554
>Cocona burns like the fire of the scorpio to give Papika a chance at a normal life
>Papika wakes up after dreaming of Cocona sitting in a boat on a foggy river
>Grandma -her grandma now- is sitting waiting with a smile and asks her "another bust, eh?"

>>150382693
ffs

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>>150381260
How would the show change if yayaka was replaced with Karen? Her pure illusion outfit would be a pirate captain.

>>150382795
kek

I was more thinking about the shoma/kanba ending though

i dont think mimi is papika's previous partner or anything, they probably fucked with papika's memories and her reality was changed so cocona is someone else

>only 3 more episodes

I'm going to miss this show

>>150382834
She would probably ruin the whole episode like she's used to.

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>>150382488
Exactly. Papika has been a massively positive influence on Cocona's life for sure but why does the final stage of her growth due to Papika necessarily entail them separating? Cocona's growth isn't predicated on Papika being around but more is a result. You can see that in the most recent episode.

Additionally, part of Cocona's growth is learning to be close to people. She was, outside of Yayaka, basically a recluse at the beginning. Papika has shown her how to be friends with (and even come to love, possibly romantically) another person. To then strip that away wouldn't be a capstone on growth but would more just be straight cruel.

>>150382878
Do you know how to count?

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>>150382878
>9, 10, 11, 12, 13
>3 more

>>150382878
>9, 10, 11, 12, 13
>3
(you)

>>150382878
5

>>150382878
It's 13 episodes, anon.

>>150382727
>implying episode 5 wasn't a critique of yuri and the show moving into lesbian territory

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What are some more genre parodies you want to see in Pure Illusions?

I'd like to see some high fantasy shit with thieves and wizards and dragons and stuff.

>>150382693
wtf is this shit

>>150382878
Here's your (you) now get out.

>>150382888
Ebin meme

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>>150382693
Aside from two parapgrahs and 3 goddamn linebreaks of throat-clearing, the actual article isn't too bad. The prose isn't pretentious and the argument is fairly reasonable as far as this sort of subject matter is concerned. In fact, I'm fairly certain I've seen similar angles argued here after episode 7 aired. The author just framed it in terms of the perspective of a western LGBBQ instead of the actual context it's situated in, which I suppose is reasonable considering it's probably the author's own perspective. Framing the show in terms of a gay girl learning that she's gay is something we've been doing pretty much since episode 1, anyways.

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>>150382693
>Iro's aunt was a lesbian too
oh, I never caught that.

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>>150380483
Fucking rude

>>150383331
Yeah, and she was alone, because her red head partner probably disappeared

>**2,101位/**2,039位 (***,433 pt) [*,**2予約] 2017/01/06 フリップフラッパーズ 1 [Blu-ray]

I HURT MYSELF TODAY

>>150382488
>>150382890
To clarify my 70% comment, my feeling is sort of that nothing negative in this story is forever.

I think the ending is going to be happy, but that doesn't mean it won't be a rough time getting there.

>>150383038
Hey a detective mystery might not be bad. Neat device they could use for exposition.

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When did you realize this show is basically Reboot?

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>>150383572
>I think the ending is going to be happy
I want to believe /a/non, but I don't think I'm strong enough if they make us wait another week.

oh boy I can't wait until we get some forced drama in my fun exciting goofy monster-of-the-week show

>>150382693
I will never understand the feelings of an america queer.

If I wanted to, I could have gay sex in a public park RIGHT NOW and the biggest reaction I could get would be a stranger offering us a blanket.

In my world queers can do wahtever the fuck they want, no one cares, and then I read shit like this and I wonder just how much of a shithole america has to be to foster these kinds of people.

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>>150383706
>If I wanted to, I could have gay sex in a public park RIGHT NOW

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>>150383331
That scene hadn't stood out to me much while watching but it makes sense in hindsight. It's one of those clever moments that can work on multiple registers, since the yuri angle works particularly for Cocona who's observing the memory while also working on the level of revealing some insight to Iroha's character.

I'm pretty sure that scene isn't trying to tell us that Iroha is gay, but I think it's interesting that the scene tells the audience different things depending on whether you consider Iroha the one that it's being told to or Cocona.

>>150383706
Where do you live?

>>150383858
Sweden I'm guessing.

>>150383706
It's -8 today, too cold for fucking.

>>150383331
Does that make it creepy that they had a bath together?

>>150383858
>>150383899
Denmark

>>150383700
There is a dead body called 'another bust' in the very beginning

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>>150381260
Maybe that dead girl from Episode 1

>>150383706
America fosters an attitude that you can say whatever you want as long as you pretend that it's hard to say and that it's being spoken as a victim. It makes you strong and morally virtuous to stand up and shout your hot opinion like it's the goddamn french revolution in 8 paragraphs.

It's not that the US is a bad place to be gay, but it's a great place to spout identity politics for attention because you're given a soapbox and an audience just by being self-righteous about who you are.

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>>150381260
Best girl

>>150384032
that's Papika

>>150383706
It's not really. In America, lots of people build their identity on who has it the worst. They actually have at times tried to codify it rather than letting it just stay the unspoken rule-- look up the "progressive stack."

You might get a couple of old people or really devout protestants giving you some shit for being a homo, but by and large you'd actually be praised for it-- talked up for being so "brave" and "honest" for being out despite it not really being a risk at all. They make it into a fucking spectacle, and the people who immerse themselves in it are the worst fucking people I have ever known.

I really like FF's treatment of this subject matter. We very rarely see disapproval from anyone on the outside, because this isn't about them. It's a personal story about the characters themselves, and how they cope. Society as a whole has no say.

>>150384017
Don't you have indecency laws or something? There are kids who walk in the park you know

>>150384104
Papika with short blue hair?

>>150384032
She died because she wasn't gay enough.

>>150384129
You can't see her hair in that picture. And I don't know if you noticed but colors tend to vary based on lighting in this show.

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>>150384236
The anon should have posted more than just a thumbnail then. Look closer. We've known this girl didn't look anything like Papika since episode 1.

>>150382693
>Either way, Flip Flappers nails the anxiety, guilt, and fear that one feels when confronted with the fact that they are not heterosexual as much as society - and perhaps themselves - wants them to be.
This seems wrong. I never got the feeling the social aspect of discovering oneself to be gay is explored at all in this series, at least not with Cocona if you accept the interpretation that Iroha's "aunt" was. I feel like Cocona is just clumsily and gradually discovering her sexuality at all, that it's with another girl doesn't seem to matter. Maybe you can see her defaulting to "You mean [love you] as a friend?" in episode 7 that way, but I saw it more as her not knowing whether her feeling was romantic love in general.

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>>150384236
It looks blue but I agree with you. However the hair is deffo short

>>150384236
Papika looks at her and says another bust

>>150384281
Really I think you could easily replace Papika with a guy and the story would stay the same (not that I'd want that really.) Cocona isn't necessarily coming to terms with her being gay or not so much as she's coming to terms with getting close to another person. At the beginning she was coming to grips with trusting someone else ore relying on them or letting other people rely and sacrifice for you. Ultimately that lead to her friendship with Papika. Now she's struggling with the fact that her feelings go beyond simple friendship. Love is a daunting feeling for one who has never felt it before.

>>150384111
>who has it the worst.
Also, who is most oppressed is completely arbitrary. I really hate to get political here, but right now, Muslims are at the bottom (or top?) of the oppression pyramid. So it doesn't matter if they want to murder jews, throw gays off of roofs, and blow everyone else to kingdom come, they still get a pass.

I'm not talking in terms of groups, or letting the sins of the collective stain individuals. Very often muslims, even clerics and other leaders, who have expressly said those things get a pass, and are praised for being... whatever they are... in spite of it.

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>>150383678
I have to say, Mimi didn't seem very distraught when she was presumably disappearing in the flashback. She apologized, but she looked resolute. Maybe she knew something they didn't.

>>150384278
>doesn't look anything like

Except having the exact same clothes?

>>150384451
I'm also not sure about the fact that she seems to have a baby in her hand ...wait..doesn't she and that hiding guy kinda look like Cocona?

>>150384281
I think that line was meaning to get at the fact that she's aware there's a normal and that she doesn't align with it. Not so much that she's resisting the influence of society or is facing the social implications of her identity, but the author is taking for granted the idea that Cocona's conception of normality is socially prescribed. He's also making the assumption that abnormality here necessarily means "Oh my god I'm a fucking faggot drown me in sloppy wet Papiflaps" when it could just as easily be the generalized insecurity of an introverted young teenager. I suppose the gay angle is the whole point of the article, but it still reeks of projecting their own feelings onto the work rather than observing and drawing insight from it.

>>150382693
>Aunty was a lesbian
Holy fuck, I didn't expect noone outside here to make those claims. And as a joke.

>>150384597
Everybody is a lesbian anon

>>150384597
Didn't the gossipy old ladies make some comment about Auntie's husband having died? I thought something like that happened.

>>150384482
Not you again.

>>150384597
Almost certainly reading too much into it, but it's not like it's at odds with the writing or anything like that.

>>150384734
No I think they said she was unmarried and never had kids

>>150384437
I really don't think you could replace Papika with a dude. Why would Cocona be hesitant if she was falling for a male? Why would she not like to be seen in public with Papika acting like that?

And, it's not like it hasn't at least hinted at some wider themes, with Iroha and her aunt.

If they do bring society into it, give it the "context" (read: attention-seeking) westerners so crave, I hope they at least don't handle it in our typical ham-fisted way, where anyone who's anything less than completely in favor of it, even if they just don't think they're right for each other, is a bigot.

>>150384597
What? No. She totally is-- she was unmarried (evidenced by the lack of a shrine to him in the home, despite being otherwise traditionally furnished). What really convinced me was how people would talk about her behind her back. She's an outsider, where typically old women are seen as dear old mothers or whatever. Now, she's not weird, she's actually really nice, and she was a school teacher, so she should at least have some past students around who check in on her-- so what about her could have them gossiping so?

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>>150384745
Given the series nature, it doesn't sound way too farfetch. Where were all those hot grannies when I was a kid?

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>>150384451
>last episode had Cocona saying she agrees with fighting / self sacrifice to save the things you like as the color suddenly switches from darkish blue to a bright orange as she says it

Hmm...really makes you worry

>>150384734
No, they just say she's old and she has no kids. I don't remember if the lady herself talked about having a late husband, but I don't think so.

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>>150383976
she's a lesbian not a pedophile

>>150384745
>Almost certainly reading too much into it
Can we just acknowledge why this is the biggest cop-out statement you can make in a discussion?

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>>150384811
>hot grannies

>>150384829
She could be a lesbian pedophile.

>>150384865
Is that what the red nailpolish was representing?

Maybe they completely misunderstood why Iroha had lingering trauma surrounding her auntie.

>>150384933
>couldn't paint her nails because granny would finger her

I'm checking ep 6 again and so far no nail clippers.

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Is there any way to watch Flip Flappers flying over the Atlantic?

>>150384973
I don't know... the internet?

>>150384838
Well, I'm discussing the possibility too, I wasn't trying to shut down the opposite argument by saying that. I think it's a valid interpretation, just one that likely wasn't fully intended by the writers.

>>150384990
>he uses the internet on planes
You're a terrorist. One with really good connection nonetheless.

>>150384838
Nah, sometimes people really do end up going too far in these discussions, so it's important to make sure you're not chasing after squirrels.

This is not one of those times.

>>150385023
>one that likely wasn't fully intended by the writers.
Barthes is required reading for all discussions on /a/. Please return after brushing up on your homework. Weren't you forwarded the syllabus at the end of Boku no Pico?

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>>150384597
>No one grows up, asking to be queer

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>>150384786
Or maybe, just maybe, they're gossiping because she's bringing a random kid that isn't related to her home and not because she is a lesbian.

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>>150384961
Or more like Auntie painted her nails red with the blood of chastity.

>that red smear piercing the yellow

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>>150384961
>>150384933
>this is reinforced by the nail clipper in the very next ep.

>>150385104
Sorry, I only watched that for the gay shota sex and I must've missed all the deeper meanings.

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>>150385193
This is the face of a rapist

>>150384973
I know delta has wifi on all its domestic flights, i am sure most international carriers have internet.

shitposting from flight is a special kind of awesome. when you connect make sure track your flight online, flightaware.com

So was it really confirmed that Iroha isn't appearing again?

>>150384973
NO YURI ALLOWED IN MY PLANE.

>>150385343
Why? Does it make planes crash?

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>>150385167
What a minute, I recognize that twig!

>>150378271
>Marimite with lesbians world
That's a perfect description.

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>>150385363
NO THIS CANT BE HAPPENING
IM IN CHARGE HERE

>>150385363
Distracts the pilots. They want to watch too.

>>150384973
Maybe if the plane runs out of fuel you can keep it in the sky if you flip flap hard enough.

>>150385415
You're a big girl...

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>>150385436

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>>150385423
Only if you can convince those sitting next to you to flip flap as well

>>150385343
I watched Hidamari Sketch on a plane once. Is that legal?

>>150383038
Can you satire satire? Imagine Jinrui being satirized.

>>150385477
Hah, the guy looks like half their size. QUALITY work 3hz.

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>>150384786
> what could have them gossiping so?

Being an unmarried women. Adopting a child. You seem to forget just how conservative Japan is.

>>150382693
He neglected to talk about how the anxiety of wanting to "release their impedance" paralleled the female anxiety of being able to reach orgasm with your partner.

>Hidaka tells them to try using toys

>>150385436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p76AW6x3P0I
it's the perspective

>>150385616
meant for
>>150385532

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>>150385488

>>150385669
RIP

>>150383038
Gachimuchi parody, zombie apocalypse, being hunted by a monster like alien or predator. PI is great for horror settings.

>>150383038
Phantom World PI

>>150383038
Inferno Cop Pure Illusion

>>150385806
Not even in my top 3 of PIs

>>150383038
'Meet your doppelganger' illusion

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>>150385594
oh shit

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You don't need those fragments, Cocona! I'm gonna give you a family!

>>150385965
Cocona doesn't have parents because she's artificial, same as Papika.

>>150385965
>You don't need those fragments, Mimi! I'm gonna give you a family!

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>>150386016
>Papika never told you what happened to your father? She IS your father!

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Do you know that there was a message in English on the thank-you card in episode 6? Foreign exchange student?

>>150386259
When the series ends, I'm going to send 3Hz a card saying "It was fun thank you"

>>150383038
FREAKY FRIDAY EPISODE

>>150377950
The best pure illusion are the sales numbers.

>>150383706
>a stranger offering us a blanket
Bloody Canadians.

>>150385965
But Papika wanted fragments in the first place

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>>150386372
We should all do that. We could also send lilies.

>>150378942
Underrated post.

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>>150381767
Problem with this theory is that to the extent that Papika is childlike and unchanging, we pretty much know the reason: Because her memories are suppressed.

As she regains her memories Papika is likely to change in to a more mature version of herself. Cocona's acceptance of this more mature (but still playful) Papika is a better way of highlighting her journey to adulthood then literally killing off her inner child.

>>150383038
Zombies.

>>150384451
Mimi's attitude is like I must go my people need me

>>150386908
Space Dandy already did that

>>150386372
Yes let's organize it as a campaign.

>>150387278
Maybe, they (salt, papika, mimi) were working for the KKK and found out that they intended to use Pure Illusion for world domination so Mimi sacrificed herself by turning into a ton of fragments that they would have to collect to make it difficult for them to ever realise that goal.

>>150387328
Maybe that's why Yuniko's zombie PI idea was not used.

>>150387390
Weren't there hints of Buu being former property of the KKK?

>>150387390
That could happen yes. Basically Mimi pulled a Yui against SEELE. It doesn't explain everything though.
If Mimi is Yui what makes Papika? I guess she would be Mari because Papika was gay for Mimi.

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>>150386852
I do think it's interesting to consider Papika as an element of Cocona's subconscious that has "broken free" as a result of her anxiety towards the future. Even the first scene of the first episode seems to suggest this in the way its composed. Papika's "escape" follows immediately after Cocona's scene in the exam practice, which is inundated with images of time. We see Papika race down a long, winding tunnel that's distorted by perspective and lighting to appear soft, bulbous and almost fleshy (Papika being associated with soft circle is a motif that appears frequently throughout the series), followed by an image of shattering glass and Papika bursting out of the tunnel, breaking free of the myriad spindly appendages of pursuing robots and escaping into the night.

The scene works very well as a reflection of Cocona's subconscious facing the stress of the practice exam and the looming future it represents. The shot of Papika breaking free is immediately followed by Cocona looking out the window and seeing the twinkling of shattered glass on the horizon following the wake of Papika's escape. The comparison between the two events (exam and escape) is drawn pretty plainly.

>>150380536
>Dr. Memes, I'm Salty!

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>>150387761
>first panel
It's an asshole, right? So that's Papikas element.

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Post rare Mimis.

>>150381026
One of the better fanart.

>>150388125
Can you fuck off with these shitty reviews no one watches/listens to and never will along with 97% of the blogs posted here? It's not /a/ material, it's not the kind of person to post on /a/, it's not welcome here and never will be.

>>150388125
>Throwing around all of this filmschool jargon without making a coherent point or using specific examples as a basis for analysis.
Terrible. If this was an essay, I'd fail it

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What part of Papika does Cocona find arousing? or is it just her cute face?

>>150388125
>posting review of some e-celebshit
End yourself for the love of god.

>>150388423
That is what I thought especially when the second guy started talking. "Look at these ever so cultured concepts I once read about and can try shoehorn this series into with no purpose other than making me feel intelligent."

>>150388535
She just likes her for her lewd body, her emotional feelings lie with Yayaka

>all these pseudo intellectuals stealing our analyses and pretending to have liked the show all along
>sales not helped at all

It hurts.

>>150388672
It wouldn't be so bad if they were being used to the service of advancing some cogent argument, but it's basically just a list of "this is X, the series likes to use Y, Z is important because it ABs the CDs which in turn goes back to X: the EF of GH."

It's structured to insert as many technical terms as possible in matter-of-fact statements which are addressed to no scene or example in particular. It got particularly bad when he moved to make an example out of that scene with Cocona Papika and Yayaka all standing in the school roof/park thing and after blathering about subverting hierarchies for 2 minutes, then when on to use an example of "Yayaka is positioned slightly higher in this scene" which wasn't related to anything he'd just said. Even understanding those terms, I got nothing out of that masturbatory ball of prose except that Flip Flappers uses a lot of shots where the characters are aligned in a single 2D midground but occasionally uses shots where they aren't.

I got the impression they were trying to insert some resume of credible film critique knowledge by listing terminology, and it seems as though they don't actually have any arguments in favour of the thesis of the video beyond "look at how many big words I know. You should take my opinion at face value because I clearly know what I'm talking about."

>>150388125
I thought they were just trying to make it look cute and coherent.

>>150388921
If that were true she would've let Papina rock her flip flaps all night.

>>150389081
>I got the impression they were trying to insert some resume of credible film critique knowledge by listing terminology

A thousand times this. It's a nice simple story about two people falling in love and learning to deal with those emotions, with growing up.

Unfortunately people feel they need to couch their arguments in academic language, as you said it makes them sound credible.

Besides who wants to admit they watch a yuri show for the fan service and psychedelic colors. They always have to try and elevate the medium at the expense of the best parts

>>150389081
Yeah that is what I mean, its like "nice observations and all but whats the argument they are building towards because you have been making examples for about 5 minutes now without telling us what point they are in support of or explaining what importance it really has".

It is like basic argument building you get taught when you are 12, make your point, give some examples to support your point from the media, explain how those examples support your point.

>>150389081
>"this is X, the series likes to use Y, Z is important because it ABs the CDs which in turn goes back to X: the EF of GH."
This is too deep for me, doc.

>>150389337
I prescribe two episodes of Utena twice a day until the swelling goes down

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>>150388234
that was drawn by one of the animation directors

>>150389453
What do you call that? I mean it isn't really "official" art is it?

>>150384447
Oh I thought you were talking about the real world until you started talking about people liking muslims

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>>150389453
If they somehow make papicoco become a thing I swear I'll send 3hz and studio Jorge a box of rotten onigiri.

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>>150389568
Shit, meant yayacoconuts.

>>150389511
It's still fanart, regardless of the artist.

>>150389081
I think one of the worst things about it is the way they just keep throwing those academic terms out there without breaking them down to be honest. If you ever listen to podcasts with an academic bent aimed for a populist audience when a more complex idea has to be employed they tend to at least explain it first rather than assuming their entire audience is aware. Failing to do that is just going to lose anyone who didn't get it straight away regardless of the quality or lack of quality of your argument otherwise. It is almost as if it is being opaque on purpose to be honest perhaps indeed to sound authoritative as you have suggested. It feels to me more like "look how intelligent I am" than "here is something really interesting about this show I want to communicate to a wider audience".

>>150388535
Pretty sure Cocona loves the whole package.

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>>150389568
>>150389629
You betrayed us

>>150390041
Paparito?

>>150390105
Papicosito

>>150390036
>papickage

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>>150390041
Papito, my greatest rival. I won't let you have señorita Coco so easy.

>>150389815
The bigger issue is that you also don't need to point out these things to people who understand these terms. If you're so down with the jargon, you don't need a fucking YouTube explainer, you can just watch the show.

>>150382693
Fags are absolutely incorrigible. Half of them swear viciously that being gay is like having hands, you're just born that way and nobody should treat you differently, and they get very offended if you try. The other half are like this fuck who literally just equated being gay to intergenerational travel.

What the FUCK is a flip fapper?

>>150390841
>Intergenerational
That's inter-dimensional. Phoneposting, never again.

>>150390978
Someone that works at fli flappers.

>>150390978
Flip flappers? With the flip and the flap and the thing where the queer girls go into and shouts kyu ku!

>>150390978
>2016
>not knowing what a flip flapper is

>>150391139
>>150391182
>>150391289
>fapper

Man is Crunchyroll trying to establish a whole cottage industry of Flip Flappers thinkpieces now? There's so many of them. Do they do this for all anime or what.

>>150391490
Maybe you are only finding it because you are searching for it, but yeah seeing how people on /a/ like to theorize too it must be because of all the symbolism

>>150391490
I get the impression they've fallen in love with it as much as we have and are trying their best to promote it in their own way. Everyone would love if gaijin suddenly swept in and bought tonnes of BDs

>>150391582
Honestly I know /a/ would hate it because contrarian faggots but I'd absolutely love it if this show was one of those that was ignored by the nips but got massive support in the west.

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>Cuckona

>>150391639
Not with all the loli-service

>>150390978
a filipino masturbater

>>150391639
I wish it wasn't being ignored by the nips, but since it is, I certainly hope the west can help supplement the sales. I'm going to order the first volume when I get my next paycheck.

>>150391857
I'm debating on if I want to blow the like $700 for the collectors box. I know it won't make a difference but still.

>>150391927
That's out of my pricerange, sadly, but I can at least buy one volume

>>150391840

The term is masturbateur. Sounds more classy.

>>150391964
Just buy your favorite episode. I'm going to grab episode 3.

>>150391490
one of the things that the film school wankfest above got right is the way the series grabs its audience and forces them to think about what they are seeing on-screen.

Which is why its so strange that the staff would tweet things like "feel, don't think"

Maybe the tweet was a joke, or maybe everything we've seen in FliFla so far is all a huge accident or illusion

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>>150391964
>>150391927
It would be nice if they did a art book or something I can actually afford.

>>150392040
>Which is why its so strange that the staff would tweet things like "feel, don't think"

All the symbolism and crazy PI adventures are just to service the characters and their feelings. You should pay attention but only insofar as it helps you better relate to their feelings and struggles.

The show is to much fun to just spend your time in cold analysis

>>150392040
I don't think any director ever has advertised a work as "you're supposed to think about it. really hard. the emotions you get from it are not the point."

>>150391857
I won't be able to afford that, but I'll try to get the Papika figure if it turns out to be decently priced. I wish there was some picture of it, I would love to see how it is going to look

>>150391490
The bulk of Crunchyroll's features are low-effort shit like "The locations of...", "check out this show from our back catalog", "cooking with anime" or "let's compare this to the source material".

It's not surprising that the writers that want more tend to gravitate to Flip Flappers since that's a show you can say something about if nothing else, not just ANN-style "Yuri on Ice is really gay you guys, and you're completely correct for liking it".

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>>150392487
>Yuri on Ice is really gay you guys

I could have used that review before watching the first episode, I was expecting a much different show based on the title

>>150391927
man i really want that. i think im gonna start saving 100 a paycheck until i can get that

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I... I wrote a song for Mimi.
You are my Mimi
My only Mimi
You make me happy
When skies are grey
You'll never know, dear
How much I love you
Please don't take my Mimi away

I hope she'll like it.

flip floppers or matoi, which is the most mediocre mahou shoujo of the season?

>>150392487
Not entirely sure what people are expecting from anime journalism

>>150392624
izetta

>>150391927
This version seems a lot cheaper
http://www.infinitedayo.jp/shop/ff009.html

What extra do you get for your money from the $700 version?

>>150392742
A bunch of extras, I guess. It's listed on the website but I don't speak moon and can't parse google translate. It does say the extras included in the limited special edition are subject to change without notice, though.

>>150392487
Crunchyroll is more interested in showcasing stuff that people aren't watching already for obvious reasons.
ANN is always just trying to tell their users that the stuff they like is super great, also for obvious reasons.

>>150392742
Basically it's a version to donate more to 3hz.

>>150392865
I guess if you don't really mind what the extras are and just want to support the show more and can afford to do that it is worth it anyway. I could probably just about afford the cheaper version though so quite tempted to get that.

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>>150384278
It's the previous "Cocona". Either Cocona is a clone of her, vice versa, or Cocona will wind up like that girl and Papika will find a new adventure partner.

The last lesson Flip Flappers will teach us is relationships flip and flop and they don't always last.

>>150392940
You mean Bandai?

>>150392958
Bear in mind that the infinity store does not ship internationally.
If you're not living in Japan, you'll have to use a proxy

>>150392624
>Flip Flappers
>Matoi
>mediocre
Wanna see mediocre? Fire up Vivid Strike, you'll see mediocre.

>>150393274
Vivid Strike has better animation than matoi and better story than floppers.

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>>150393319
>Vivid Strike
>good animation
>good story
>good

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>>150393319
>better story
10/10 you got me to reply. Vivid Strike has no story.

>>150393319
Matoi and Vivid Stirke are both shit.

Flip Flappers and Hibike are the only shows really worth watching this season.

>>150393319
>Vivid Strike
>animation
Where?

>>150393454
flip floppers is the one without story, thats why it is flopping hard and being called shit even by the japanese audience.

>>150393499
More like
>Vivid Strike
>anything
Where?

The only Vivid Strike in that show is the writer's union

>>150393516
>being called shit even by the japanese audience
Where are you even getting that from?

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>>150393539
11/10

>>150393274
>Vivid Strike
>mediocre

I'd hate to see what you consider bad.

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>>150393539
>The only Vivid Strike in that show is the writer's union

>>150381117
That's more or less the same for every decently popular airing anime.

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>>150392559

>>150394059
>animal ears
Ruined.

>>150394059
Why did their lips get close? What was that supposed to signify?

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>>150394188
Friendship

>>150382693
I was wondering if someone was going to post this article. We are officially in the age where someone no longer jokes about two girls being lesbians and actually believes they are.

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>>150394220
Don't these girls understand personal space? They shouldn't act like they're kissing, my pastor said it's not moral.