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No time machines allowed
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first post for Toyotaro, literally /our guy/
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I fucking hate it when Toei colors SS Blue as cyan/teal. It's fucking DESPICABLE.
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>>150292259
How can Beerus be so Alpha? Literally only person to make Bulma shut the fuck up and get back in the kitchen where she belongs.
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>>150292259
>the drawings become worse
>anime has less shade than undertale games
the fuck is this ?
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>>150293678
wait for next canon arc for quality to improve. The manga will be ahead of the anime so hopefully that helps Toei get their shit together.
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>>150293640
Bulma has been annoying and blackmailing Beerus for so long, he probably waited for the exact moment to BTFO Bulma for ages.

Wouldn't be surprised if he used Whis' staff and the Oracle Fish to spy on Bulma.

Beerus is a laid-back guy, but Bulma really [triggers] him. She's like that friend that really is your friend, but sometimes you just ignore their calls, or close their message window because fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck it all to hell.
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>>150292259
When I saw the preview last week I thought Beerus was going to destroy those kids' toys.
How old are Trunks and Goten now?
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>>150295566
You know, a little filler scene where Beerus spots a toy Delorean in Trunks' toybox and starts stomping on it while yelling that time machines aren't allowed followed by Beerus and Whis being forced to buy a new toy for Trunks would be pretty good comedy.
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>>150295647
Dragon Ball Kart racing episode when?
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>>150296109
They have link in mario kart 8, so why the hell not? Snake way would be a great course. What else would work?
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>>150296165
i was referring to having a filler episode adaptation of Toyotaro's event.
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>>150296419
forgot to mention it's pretty much too late now, now that Future Trunks is gone.
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>>150296419
Never unfortunately. Anime should've came after the manga.
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>>150296469
Toei should stick to making gifs of the manga.
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>when you tryna get laid and you accidentally call him fat
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>fags say powerlevels are bullshit
>they rage when superman beats Goku
>they somehow get off on Arale being unkillable
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>>150292259
Beerus and whis sure doesn't tolerate mortals who mess with time.
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>>150298811
>>they rage when superman beats Goku
The only reason this annoys me is when capeshitters immediately over-rate their heroes and under-sell another mediums because elitism.
Objectively any DB main character would trash any reasonable modern iteration of Supes post-Namek.
>>they somehow get off on Arale being unkillable
It's a joke.
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>>150295566
>How old are Trunks and Goten now?
I think they are like 14/13 now or something.
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By this point Super is pretty much AOTY 2016.
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>>150298861
They were probably weak at one point. Someone could go back and kill them then.
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>>150300077
Whis is the Grand Priest's son, he was probably born with insane power.
Beerus, we don't know. He could just be an incredibly powerful member of his race, akin to Goku and Vegeta. Like them, it would be safe to assume he was born not nearly as powerful as he is, now.
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I think it'S more exciting if you dont watch the preview for the next episode but I just cant resist.

is anyone here not watching the preview for each episode?
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>>150300305

wait I'm stupid. if you are here you'll read spoilers anyway so it doesnt matter
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>>150299317
says a lot about anime industry
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>Its so meaty
Why is Whis so lewd?
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https://youtu.be/FhNePcatHs4
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>>150293594
as the whole series. Only manga makes it a bit better. Actually after returning Gold Frieza it's all shit.
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Beerus saving yet another shitty episode.
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>>150301758
now that i think about it, it's kinda sad that future bulmas only legacy is now forever gone
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>>150301967
But Future Trunks still has his time machine.
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>Wasting a wish to cure a baby's fever
Why didn't he just take her to Dende?
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>>150302009
i thought this was the one trunks used, i figured Whis/Kaioshin would use a timering to get Trunks to a new alternate future
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This episode was enough proof that Zamasu was right. Humans are fucking selfish cunts.
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>>150302087
No, they used the machine. Whis probably just told them coordinates.
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I pray we get to see Vados in a cheerleader outfit during the baseball episode.

Super can getaway with FS after seeing Bulma giving Roshi hoes for free.
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>>150302119
holy crap, i totally forgot about that....is super really that boring? I have watched every episode, but damn, how could i forget that we actually saw them going away?
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>>150292259
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So... Dabura turning good after being forced to go to Heaven (because Hell would be too enjoyable for him)... is that filler?

Because Super shows that Hell changes to suit the personality of the dead, because to our outsider perspective, Frieza's hell seemed like heaven.

If Dabura in Heaven isn't filler, does that mean we might see Dabura again one day?

>inb4 Dabura meets Whis and they'll be the gayest couple in all DB history.
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>>150302163
There is a LOT of shit that could've easily been handled in a better way in Super but whoever is writing the episodes is absolutely retarded, even if its a kids show.
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>>150302429
Yes, Dabura in heaven was filler, however was have heard one or two sentences on how Heaven actually is like from grandpa Gohan and it seems like your typical paradise heaven.

Rather, the freeza hell should be seen as non-canon.
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>>150302555
>Rather, the freeza hell should be seen as non-canon.
Are you retarded? Freeza's hell was in Super. Which makes it canon.
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>>150302555
How does Grandpa Gohan's statements conflict with Frieza's moments in Hell?
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>>150302592
>Super. Which makes it canon.
hahahahaha, good one
>>150302616
Because Dabura was sent to heaven(a paradise according to Gohan) as he would like hell too much. But since Hell is changed to suit the prisoners personality, it wouldn't make sense.
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>>150302661
But you just said Dabura being in heaven was filler.

You can't deconstruct actual lore based on filler.
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>>150292259
how did he know she was making a time machine? are they spying on bulma?
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>>150302952
>But you just said Dabura being in heaven was filler.
right, it still is, even if it shows the same heaven Gohan talked about(which i doubt it does, as Gohans description was very vague, and while i never saw Daburas filler heaven thing, i do saw a screencap of it once, and it looked stupid). You DO realize what filler is, right?
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>>150303010
If you haven't seen it, shut the fuck up Pedro. Go climb Trump's wall of dicks or some shit.
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>>150292259
>Goku is more retarded than ever
>All the development of Vegeta went down the drain
>Gohan became an absolute cuck
>Future Trunks became a cuck getting dominated by base black but wait now suddenly is stronger than blue Vegito
>Goten and Trunks are as irrelevant comedy relief side-characters than they've ever been, also they don't age or/and develop
>Piccolo is completely irrelevant

If you're thinking of paying for blu ray or any merch related to the series please kys before you do it
You're the reason TOEI is getting away with monstrosities like this
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>>150302952
Dabura being in heaven isn't filler.
Seeing Dabura in heaven and having him turn into a good guy is.
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>>150302661
>Yes, Dabura in heaven was filler
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>>150303064
Anon asked if Daburas Heaven was filler
No matter if i saw it or not, i know it was filler as it wasn't in the manga
Thus i replied: No it was not, but it does seem to be like the one Gohan descriped

you are the only retard here, thinking filler means something else than it does, thinking the discussion is about something else that it does
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>>150303080
>All the development of Vegeta went down the drain

No
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>>150303080
t. spic
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>>150303109
in case you are a retard, i obviously was talking about this >>150303088, because Just Dabura being in heaven is pointless towards this discussion, it only mattered if we saw his time in heaven
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>>150303080
>>Goku is more retarded than ever
>SSBKx10
>Saving everyone from Zeno
>>All the development of Vegeta went down the drain
>Training with Cabba
>Spending time with his family
>MY BULMAAAAAA
>>Gohan became an absolute cuck
>Training again with Piccolo
>>Future Trunks became a cuck
>Fucking Mai forever in the future
>>Stronger than blue Vegito
>What is Genkidama
>>Goten and Trunks are irrelevant comedy relief side-characters
>Implying they were anything else from the beginning
>>Also they don't age
>Next episode preview
>>Piccolo is completely irrelevant
>Universal tournament
>Mafuba
>Babysitter
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>>150303233
You used way too much greentext
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>>150303080
I recommend you go watch Dragonball Absalon instead, Jose.
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>>150302429
>Frieza's hell seemed like heaven
Cutesy little shits constantly singing their cutesy songs while you can't get away or do anything to stop them seems like Hell to me.
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>>150302429
That is indeed filler.

He has instead been rescued by his sister who along with her android husband/creation has been attempting to mess up Dragonball history to revive the Demon Realm.

That is in another continuity.
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>>150303601
Wait, Dabura's sister is Towa?
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I have a question about Kaioshin of the 7th Universe - so he became Kaioshin when Buu killed his master (previous Kaioshin) and all other apprentices. This was 5 milion years before DBZ. We know that Kaioshins create new worlds and Hakaishins destroy old ones - so we can assume that Shin was responsible for creating Saiyans' original homeworld and all it's inhabitants. Then why is he always so surprised about the potential of Saiyans? Shouldn't he know the nature of his own creation?
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>>150303645
Yeh
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>>150303697
Uh, he's just the Supreme Kai of the East of the universe. So my guess is he only really knows about what's in the East part of the Universe. The West, North and South are a bit unknown to him.

He's not an apprentice. Buu just killed his boss and his coworkers, and he's been running the shop all alone ever since.
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footage of arale being BTFO by vegeta in the next episode, explain this gokufags
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Why have these threads been so dead?
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>>150303791
Yes but Buu killed them 5 million years before DBZ. There's no way Saiyan race existed back then. And after Buu killed other Kaioshins he was the only one left so he has to be responsible of creating Saiyan.
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>>150303883
No more Zamasu

Filler episodes
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SONNNN GOKUUUUUU
YOUVE DEFIED THE GODS FOR THE LAET TIME
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>>150303888
My personal guess is that Supreme Kai's only bother with galactic threats and creation of celestial bodies.

Creating life seems more of a job for the regular kais.

Which would explain why King Kai is so angry about being dead.

He creates living things for a job, and he's dead.
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>>150304199
That would be really weird in Zamasu case. He was North Kai of Universe 10 before becoming apprentice of Supreme Kai. Would that mean he was in charge of creating mortals?
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>>150301758
Was Beerus right about destroying that time machine?
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>>150304199
>My personal guess is that Supreme Kai's only bother with galactic threats and creation of celestial bodies.

I think this was stated to be the case by Gowasu in the manga.
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>>150303697

Also how is it possible that Beerus is connected to Shin (he would die if Shin dies) if Beerus is clearly much older than Shin? Beerus is even older than Old Kaioshin since he was the one who sealed him in the Z Sword. Why didn't Beerus die when Buu killed previous Supreme Kai?
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>>150303888
>Yes but Buu killed them 5 million years before DBZ. There's no way Saiyan race existed back then.
Why not?

I think if Toriyama introduces the god that created the Saiyan, he'll make it very obvious. It's a big thing to be ignored like that.
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>>150293354
I love this
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So instead of using a magic wish dragon who can only be used once a year to heal Pan why didn't Gohan just take her to Dende who has healing magic?
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>>150304601
1-He didn't think about that
2-He was on a hurry
3-Toei
Any of these must be correct
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>>150304601
I guess it's like the senzu. Healing wounds isn't the same as healing sickness.
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this... this is a super saiyan...
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>>150304575
I doubt there was much thought put into this, but I guess is that Beerus life is linked to the the Kaioshin position itself rather than to any specific one. He is fine as long as at least one Kaioshin is alive.
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and this is what is known as a super saiyan that has ascended past a super saiyan... or you can just call this a super saiyan 2
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and this.... is..... to go.... even further beyond...!
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Reminder that Krillin won life.
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HYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AHA HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA EYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>150304597
Aren't Kaioshin race only 100 million years old or something like that? It would be weird for mortal race to exist for so long in the universe where planets are constantly destroyed and recreated by gods. But maybe you are right - they might've been the creation of previous Kaioshin or even earlier one (but this would make Saiyans even older given that Kaioshins live for millions of years)
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>>150304872
Now show me Nappa SSJ3
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>>150304896
Nappa SSJ4 is better
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>>150293354
What do the Super spines look like? I'll be bummed if they're meant to go with the tanks when the Kanzenban is better in every way and actually in print.

>>150293761
>The manga will be ahead of the anime
The show still gets a lot more content per month, so I'm not sure that will last.
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>>150298873
>reasonable
>modern iteration of Supes
That's an oxymoron.
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Do we know when next saga begins? Do we know the name of the next saga?
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>>150304824
Let's all hold a moment of silence in memory of Sean Schemmel's voice.
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>>150305056
gohan reborn
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>>150305056
Fukatsu no G

Gohan gets a new super saiyan form beyond blue: Super Saiyan Verde
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>>150305167
>verde
Wut?
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>>150305167
>Verde
So it's green and spicy
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>>150305213
Different color because Gohan will be stronger than Goku and Vegeta combined..
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>>150305167
>>150305213
>>150305219
Love me some lasagna verde...

Wait... you're making a Piccolo joke aren't you?

DEMON STYLE REPRESENT! FUCK CRANE STYLE FUCK TURTLE STYLE! NAMEK FO LYFE!
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>>150305097

Why was he so exhausted from flying?

inb4: he was training
Who the fuck trains in a button-up shirt and suit vest?
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I just came here to post that chichi is the best girl.
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>>150305271
It was a hallucination
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>>150305271
he could train with a cock in his ass and still beat everyone
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no no no no you guys don't understand

chichi is the best GIRL and the best WIFE
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>>150305056
Fukkatsu no C

Thats right! It's Cooler!
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>>150305352
explain yourself.
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>>150305367
The big gete star enabled me to cheat death!!
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>>150305439
How could this be?
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>>150305056
Battle of cucks
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Fukkatsu no D?
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>>150303883
Filler with no idea about the next main story, so there's little to speculate or hype for now.
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>>150305530
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>>150305389
hottest girl

most faithful girl

most house wife girl

most mother girl

and if she let her hair down she'd be FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE

bulma only has her youth, and her money

chichi staid good all through age, and she would make you happy if you made her happy all through her life and yours because you devote yourself to a good marriage.

also, if you play dragon ball z xenoverse frost demons are the best race
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Is this the most lazy hairstyle ever? They should've just give him the same hairstyle he had as a kid in Cell Arc.
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>>150303883
Last episode was literally a snoorefest, hope the next one isn't somehow worse or the same as boring.
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>>150305665
>Is this the most lazy hairstyle ever?
Lazy? It is the best hairstyle in all of Dragon Ball
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>>150305743
Pic related was a lot better - they should've keep it
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Seeing some more 18 was really the highlight for me in this episode

>>150303858
Is this Yamcha's best victory?
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>>150305834
Too overdesigned for my taste
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>people on YouTube unironically claim this is better than Super
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Choose chichi's death in FT's timeline:

A) Suicide after gohan's death
B) By his fake husband Black Goku
C) Allie

Being chichi in FT's timeline is suffering.
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>>150305957
Mexicans gonna Mexican laddy.
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Would Beerus beat up Zamasu and Vegetto?
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Dream match?! Goku vs AraIe-chan!
What's with Arale's strength, which not even Vegeta is a match for?!
Arale-chan makes a surprise appearance in the world of Dragon Ball Super! Vegeta tags along when Bulma attends the World Invention Award. The scientist Senbei Norimaki is there, and for some reason Vegeta ends up fighting the robot Senbei made, Arale! Meanwhile, Goku is also at the assembly hall for his part time job, and..
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>>150306016
I choose the timeline where Gohan lives happy life with his family and is a scholar, Gohan has a good grades in school and Goku is a caring husband who works hard to support his wife and children financially
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>>150306103
Only if Vegito and Zamasu don't work together
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>>150306103
Yes but vegeto/merged zamasu will give him a run. Except for merged zamasu with universe, beerus can't beat him.
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>>150306127
>Future Trunks's timeline
>Hapiness

Pick one.
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>>150306016
B is the worst one.
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>>150306203
I wouldn't be so sure.

The perfect scenario for Future Trunks would be Beerus still being alive.

Beerus would be able to blow up the universe, killing Universal Zamasu, hopefully with the Other World and the souls of everyone still intact.

Alas, Beerus was already dead, so all that remained was the Father of All Bombs... Zeno.
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>>150306282
I'm pretty sure Whis suggested taking Trunks to a timeline where Zamasu didn't yet become Goku Black. There'd be no point in bringing him back to the time when the only recourse left was blowing up the universe.
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>>150306282
>Beerus would be able to blow up the universe, killing Universal Zamasu

He wasn't just Universal; Gigyasmasu was multiversal and creeping into separate time-lines.
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Is there any Zeno hentai?

I can already imagine him banging some chick

>Z-zeno-sama! Please stop, it hurts!
>Shut up. I'll wipe you out.
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>worst ending to the zamasu arc
>toei filler garbage
no wonder the threads are now dead.
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>>150306383
Yep, only allie is able to beat him.
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Cell Jr who falls in love with Pan arc when?
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Golden Cooler when?
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>>150306472
Toei doesn't care about fucking old db fans's ass, nothing new.
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>>150305015
Something something Truck > Superman

http://imgur.com/a/2eTWT
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>>150306538
Cooler isn't canon

Neither are any of the old movie villains
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>>150306472
>>150306552
We are just waiting for the return of OUR GUY
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>>150306705
why are you spreg talking?
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>>150306731
I really want a colored version of this poster.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxSrSK2ioQw

Best scene of the saga
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>>150306731
I'am happy it looks like Goku and Vegeta will push Black and Zamasu to fure in the first try of fighting him. The main reason why i didn't liked this Anime Arc was because it had too much stupid time traveling
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>>150306538
wow it sures looks cooler than frieza
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>>150305367
Has anyone ever told you that Silver is worth less than Gold?
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What does /a/ think of Funimation Beerus and Whis?

About a Funimation Super dub in general?
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>>150306948
Platinum is worth even more than gold though.
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>>150296165
>Snake way
>Namek
>course set through the Budokai stadium
What else?
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I was thinking about why SSB is such a catastrophic failure, and I think one of the underlying, under-mentioned issues is that they nailed it dead-on the first time around.
You literally can't top this. There are no frills, no exaggerated details. They just turned his hair gold and made him look like a glow-in-the-dark bad-ass. They plateaued with the very first transformation – it was a guaranteed mudslide from there on out.
The only reasonable evolution was SSJ2, as a simple refinement of it's predecessor. But growing it to the waist, making them fuzzy red monkeys, and making it fucking blue?
I thought the introduction of God Ki was a great entrance for them to re-introduce the original design along with it, renovated with a few minor tweaks, maintaining that air of originality, whilst freshening it up a little.
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>>150307086
Supreme Kai's Realm

Wasteland (you know the one)

Cell Games Arena

Korin Tower?
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>>150306921
All that time travel and Goku forgetting to bring stuff was really annoying.
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>>150307086
>>150307195
>HBTC
>Satan City
>Inisde Majin Buu
>Babidi's Ship
>Frieza's Spaceship
The possibilites are truly endless
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>>150307210
Everything would be tranquil and serene if Goku just remembered the paper. Poor Trunks.
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>>150297008
Or Toei shouldn't have ever made an anime to begin with and allow Toyotaro and Toriyama to do their own thing with Super.
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>>150307609
They could have at least waited until there were a few chapters of the manga out to start making the anime.
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>>150307609
And miss the chance to sell cards and toys? Hell no
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>>150307609
Except nobody ever wanted to pick up Super.

Shueisha was uninterested. Bandai Namco was uninterested.

Super exists because Toei pitched the idea.
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>>150307609
People take this too seriously. You have to understand that Dragon Ball Super, just like DB and DBZ at the time, is aimed at kids. Kids don't give a fuck about continuity and consistency, and now the edgy phase of the 90s is long over, so having comedy isn't bad, even in serious moments.
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>>150307739
Yes, but that would've probably happened had the manga been a weekly serial and not a monthly. >>150307763
They could've done that with both the manga and the games.
>>150307821
That is sadly true.
>>150307866
Get that "it's for kids" excuse the fuck out of here. There are numerous children cartoons and films that have magnificent story telling in comparison to the content meant for a more mature audience.
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>>150307483
i demand an uncensored version
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>>150307951
And all of those numerous cartoons and films are done with a lot of time and planning. Toei is a shitty studio, and they don't care about the quality of their product. They know what sells, and they focus on that. Quality of story isn't near that, so they disregard that, and seeing how there's no proper source material, we are left with Super.
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>>150308002
Too hot to handle.
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>>150308033
It's not an impossible feat to accomplish, as seen with other studios that pitch in a weekly cartoon series for children. If Toei wanted to, they could make it happen. I will agree with you on Toei ultimately not caring much about the structure of their story but instead on the flashy fights (which are subpar in comparison to the ones in DB/Z) and fan service (bringing Trunks and Vegetto back which were. I assume, both suggestions to Toriyama from the editorial staff at Toei).

But despite its flaws towards the middle and execution, the Black arc is one of the most interesting arcs Toei and Toriyama dished out in years and I'm talking about during the DB days.
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>>150308207
You are overestimating Toei. They are as bad as it gets with animation studios, anyone who follows One Piece knows this.
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>>150304671
If you want to maymay at least do it properly
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>>150308289
hi anon
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>>150308259
I haven't touched the anime in years because of its terrible quality. When it comes to One Piece, I only read the manga and watch the films. But with Super, the manga is monthly and we're stuck with the weekly released of the anime. If it were weekly instead, I would've dropped the anime of Super long ago.
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>>150308363
That's my point. One Piece as an anime stands on the music, which comes from times where Toei wasn't as shit, the VA, which is one of the few things Toei does good, and the story, which comes from the manga.

Super has only the VA, and the general story. The rest is Toei, so it's shit.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for the weekly manga to be any different from the current manga, it'll still feel kind of rushed, as DB as a manga has always been very fast paced.
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>>150308469
You're a 30 year old neckbeard whining.

Kids don't give a shit about muh animation, normalfags don't give a shit about muh animation.

Only otaku trash has le sakuga. Go watch that
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>>150308469
The DB manga has always gone at its own pace when it was a weekly serial in the early 80s/90s. Some arcs gone by, yes, but it was passable. I didn't enjoy the dragged out battles in DB for the exception of maybe SS Goku vs Freeza.

But with the manga, I don't doubt Toyotaro since his dedication to the series is as strong as Toriyama's was and Toriyama himself never had a connection with the characters and over all story as he's expressed before.
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>>150308598
>since his dedication to the series is as strong as Toriyama's

So he doesn't give a shit?
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>>150308541
What? I'm not complaining at all. I enjoy Super for what it is. I'm just explaining why it is the way it is.

And normalfags certainly care about animation. Almost no one watched Super initially because of the animation on the first Goku vs Beerus fight, and I'm from a latin american country, so it definitely means something.
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>>150308635
He doesn't, or at least how we think he does. He's said that he doesn't have a connection with the characters or something to that extent. He said DB was a thing to the past to him until DBE was released and he became pissed.
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>>150307026
Cocaine is worth more per gram than gold. Just saying
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>>150306731
Zamasu^2 of toyotaro looks like Xicor.
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>>150307111
Yeah, it's a shame god ki didn't became the default new transformation.
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>>150308904
hi there anon.
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>>150308904
I thought SSG was supposed to be stronger than SSB.
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BRAH WHEN?!
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>>150309276
hi anon how are u?
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>>150309276
BRAN when?
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>>150309375
Make her like how she is in DBM minus the ass pulls or no Bra at all, Toriyama.
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>>150307111
I felt SSJ3 worked specifically because it was intended to be an unsustainable forced exaggeration of the form in terms of both power and design. It was a last resort that didn't really work well rather than a desired next stage.
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>>150307951
>There are numerous children cartoons and films that have magnificent story telling in comparison to the content meant for a more mature audience.
The first mistake you did is that you expexted Toei to be consistent and able to make the anime good.
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>>150309568
>expeXted Toei to be consistent and able to make the anime good.
Never did. In fact, I always wait to see how they'll fuck up an arc, scene or episode with either its shitty animation, scores, or writing, Like I said, I'm only watching the anime because it's what we have excluding the manga, which is monthly.
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>>150309478
a badass, proud girl capable of fighting and going ssj would be fine really
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>>150305271
>Who the fuck trains in a button-up shirt and suit vest?

Gohan, probably. He didn't switch out of that track suit he had on against Frieza because he didn't know where his training clothes were.
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>dbs threads used to be fast
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>>150305271

Piccolo could have changed his clothes for the training and changed it back after.
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>>150309659
Bulla traveling from the future for help it would be an infinite better premise for an arc
They should have leaved future trunks and his timeline alone
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>>150309866
as soon as toriyama announces the new arc shit will hit the fan soon enough
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>>150304824
>mfw watching the jap version of this scene
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>>150310000
I still wish Future Trunks had met Bra before he left. He would've met the only sister he could've/should've had. Damn you, Toriyama.
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How did goku black even get to future trunks timeline?
Time rings are supposed to transfer you in the future of your timeline and goku black original timeline is one where he got to meet and fight goku, goku was long dead in future's trunks timeline

So many fuck ups but you retards lack the mental capacity to understand anything
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>>150309866
f
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>>150309228
In manga SSB is just 10% of SSG
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Female super saiyan when?
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>>150310445
non crop version pls
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>>150310416
Wait I thought SSB is the SSJ version of SSG?
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>>150310445
When the show finally puts some focus on Pan.

Or maybe she'll skip that and go right to blue.
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>>150310383
Because time travel
Meh children's show
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>>150310514
hi anon ur cute
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>>150310445
never
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>>150310497
It's supposed to be in the anime and movies. I think Toyatora made that up so that he can continue excusing SSB still not being more than 70% of Beerus.
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>>150310574
ever
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>>150295410
>he probably waited for the exact moment to BTFO Bulma
Gave me a chuckle anon
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and thread died again :(
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>>150310416
Other way around, SSG is barely above 10% of SSB.

Vegeta was at 10% power when he fought Hit, you misremember the scene.
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>>150308598
I like how Toyatora's version of the story is more consistent and actually makes sense than the asspulls anime gives
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>>150310741
Yep. Toyotaro even remembers things that even Toriyama wouldn't but I guess that's not saying much since it IS Toriyama. But nevertheless, it's impressive.
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it makes me sad that dbs threads will never be fast again since that rushed ending killed the hype for the rest of the series :(
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>>150310801
Toyatora failed to capture the drama. His version of Black is less likeable than Supers version.
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>>150307821
What a bunch of fucktards desu fampai. it's like they forgot DB is literally money.
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>>150310859
We should bring him back
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>>150310868
I'd like to hear why you think that. Because I believe his Black is actually pretty good. It brings out the fact that Zamasu is dormant in a Saiyan body, and has now become someone with Saiyan traits. He even spared Trunks because he wanted to fight him again, wanting a challenge. Whereas anime Black tried to keep Trunks away so there'd be no one to oppose him. It makes sense for Black to had spare Trunks at some point aside from Trunks always SOMEHOW managing to escape.
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>>150310903
DB is not the hit that is in the rest of the world in Japan so I guess they might've just thought it's not worth the effort
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>>150311059
>DB is not the hit that is in the rest of the world in Japan
What? It's the second highest selling manga, only after One Piece, and one of the most profitable franchises in Japan. It's almost beating One Piece in sales currently.
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>>150311127
Bysnga sales it is. I was taking about anime viewer ship.
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>>150311169
Kai and Super were in the top 10 every week, beating anime like Yokai Watch, Naruto and Pokemon.
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>>150310445
ssj3 female saiyan when
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>>150302163

To be fair that episode had like 99 things happen and was rushed to shit.
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>>150310988
The same could be said for the anime though, the fact that he does't want immortality and that he gets excited when Goku got stronger is very saiyan like.
You could also see that he behaved very differently from future Zamasu.
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Why are they making 3 fillers? I could've sweared this arc would have ended perfectly if the last 2 episodes was split to 4 with all the asspulls justified. Why do they even do this?
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stfu u gys arent making any sense!!! chichi clearly is best girll
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>>150311352
Toei likes to stab themselves in their backs. Who knew?
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>>150311324
Yes, but Black wanted to immediately kill Goku but in that same sceneFuture Zamasu mentioned that if he were to do that, he wouldn't become more stronger than he already was.
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>>150311556
>You could also see that he behaved very differently from future Zamasu.
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> Anonymous 11/28/16(Mon)20:56:06 No.150311352 â–¶>>150311512
>Why are they making 3 fillers? I could've sweared this arc would have ended perfectly if the last 2 episodes was split to 4 with all the asspulls justified. Why do they even do this?
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> Anonymous 11/28/16(Mon)20:59:30 No.150311458 â–¶
>stfu u gys arent making any sense!!! chichi clearly is best girll
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> Anonymous 11/28/16(Mon)21:01:05 No.150311512 â–¶
>>>150311352
>Toei likes to stab themselves in their backs. Who knew?
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> Anonymous 11/28/16(Mon)21:02:25 No.150311556 â–¶
>>>150311324
>Yes, but Black wanted to immediately kill Goku but in that same sceneFuture Zamasu mentioned that if he were to do that, he wouldn't become more stronger than he already was.
Because he had already improved enough thanks to Goku's help. He'd have to kill Goku at some point to fulfill his Zero Ningen Plan, so I don't know if you were expecting him to constantly let him live or something?

I'm pretty sure Black will try to kill Goku in the manga as well. Manga!Black seems even more cowardly.
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>>150311631
>I don't know if you were expecting him to constantly let him live or something?
No, but killing him instantly would've been boring. Black wanting to prolong because of his sadism would have been even more better for his character.
>Manga!Black seems even more cowardly.
How so? He hasn't showed any sides.
>inb4 you use the "he looks afraid in the recent chapter" excuse
He doesn't. He's simply confused because as far as he knew, Goku and Vegeta were dead in that timeline and Black doesn't know about the time machine yet in the manga.
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>>150311556
Yeah so?
It still doesn't change the fact that anime Black also had saiyan like traits.
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>>150311750
>Black wanting to prolong because of his sadism would have been even more better for his character.
Which is essentially what he did by telling Goku how he killed his family. Notice how he rejoiced when Goku powered-up >>150310404

>How so? He hasn't showed any sides.
Choosing Trunks' timeline specifically because Beerus was dead instead of trying to kill Kaioshin himself. Anime Black never specified why he chose Trunks' timeline, he just said he killed all the Kaioshin (which you could include U7's in).
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>>150311863
>doesn't change the fact
I never said it did? Of course Black had Saiyan traits, such as his sadism, love for battle, and desire for strength. All I'm saying is it's also evident in the manga.
>>150311883
It's pretty obvious that the reason why Black chose Trunks' timeline was because of the lack of a Hakaishin. Him killing all the Kaioshin from every universe in that timeline even further proves the point.
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i mean seriously wtf how can an anon fuck up a post this badly lol
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>>150311631
I'm gonna give you a free (You) and a self-made worry sign. I've never seen someone fuck up their post this badly before.
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When you think of Dragon Ball in general, what arc do you picture? What's the arc that made the series so emblematic for you? I don't think there's many manga that had so many consistent arcs consecutively (at least before Super).

Personally, the Android Saga is the era which is solidified in my brain. Where SSJ was a thing but side characters like Krillin and Tenshinhan still got the spotlight despite being grossly outmatched.
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Zamas
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>>150312497
he is dead
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>>150311631
How does this even happen you probably had to do a captcha and everything and you still never noticed.
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>>150312489
The Ginyu arc for me. Probably because that's when I started watching.

Some of my earliest memories Dragon Ball (I started watching when I was like 6) are Recoome wrecking Vegeta, and Goku beating the shit out of Jeice and Burter.
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>>150312695
I should really rewatch Namek. I have awful memories of it because of the slow pacing and lack of fighting in the beginning. I see all the great things it did, but before the Frieza fight I haven't enjoyed it that much.
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>>150312489
Zamasu arc
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>>150312489
Not an arc but I immediately think of the Kame house when I think of Dragon Ball. It's not Dragon Ball to me until it shows up. It also looks comfy as fuck.

As far as arcs go, probably the start of the Android saga because it was really the last time the Z fighters fully came together and were all generally capable fighters.
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>>150312810
Why are Zamasufags still here? Hes dead, it's over, why do you fags keep posting about him? I thought liking Zamasu was a meme
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>>150312930
The Kame House first appears in Episode 3 though, so that's not saying much.
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>>150312961
Not that guy, but I expect Zamasu to remain important even in death.
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>>150312961

He's still alive in at least 4 timelines
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>>150312961
ZAMASU WILL NEVER DIE FOR HE IS IMMORTAL.
HE WILL LIVE ON FOR ETERNITY IN OUR HEARTS/
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zamasu es lindo
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>>150312961
He's still relevant in manga and if you aren't reading the manga you are lost.
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>>150312961
He's not even dead. He literally doesn't exist anymore thanks to based Zeno.
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So what's the news on the Perfect Cell event in Dokkan battle getting a Super Difficulty and a new Cell? Anyone know enough nip to translate?
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>>150313296
Nobody cares about your shitty weeb game.
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>>150313284
Even if you read manga you are lost. I ain't explain shit. Toriyama's scipt must've been incoherent as fuck.
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>>150312961
jokes on you faggot he's immortal
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>>150313296
It says you're gay
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>>150313327
>>150313413
t-thanks anons.
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>>150313296
10 ki Solar Kamehameha
11 ki allahu-akbar AoE self destruct
12 ki Solar Kamehameha
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>>150313520
His passive is ATK +100% right?
What are his links?
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>>150310859
Good, the less retards in these threads the better.

Sadly as soon as December 17th hits they'll be back.
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>>150313627
100%+ when the turn starts

I think his leader skill is 100% HP, ATK, and DEF to STR.

He has shocking speed
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>>150311324
To quote Beerus
Black was infected by his bakaness.
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>>150313786
He has Revival, Big Bad Bosses, Messenger from the Future, and Kamehameha. Since he's from a dokkan fest he's got to have Fierce battle, so there's 6 out of 7, including Shocking Speed.
Hopefully they'll give the INT and TEQ Cell something to make them more worthwhile.
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>>150310445
Maybe if Universe 6 comes back in the multi universe tournament and Cabba's been training some more Saiyans which includes females.
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>>150313778
Why are Zamasu's nipples pink? Shouldn't they be dark green or something.
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>>150313327
quite a few million disagree.
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>>150313296
How behind is the English version of this game? I can handle myself some Japanese, but I'd rather play in English if there isn't much difference.
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>>150298811
Because supes wouldnt stand a chance against goku

Put him up against like krillen or yamcha and we got something, but a saiyajin?

No
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>>150301671
Cuz hes literally gay, flamboyantly so
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>>150303791
>implying toriyama remembers theres supposed to be more than 1 kaioshin per universe

anon plz
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>>150313987
Nightmare is the last one.
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>>150300147
Old Kai said that Beerus wasn't as strong as Buu when he sealed him in the Z-Sword.
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>>150305070
Back to /v/ with you
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>>150304687
>Beerus complains about Supreme Kai getting himself killed
>it's actually his fault for letting Buu run around killing the other Kais
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>this thread rite noa
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>>150314448
Global is still like 3-4 months worth of content behind.

They only just got the third god lead (out of 5) in SSJ3 Gotenks last week. They still have to go through....

>SSBKK
>TEQ Golden Freeza
>last batch of Great Apes
>Fusions
>Heroes
>Turles rebirth
>Buuhan (god)
>Omega Shenron (god)
>Black
>ticket banner with all the gods
>Arale
>SSB Vegetto and SSR Black (most recent)

However they have been changing the order of events in Global to try and have them catch up with Japan a bit.
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>>150310497
It is, other dude is retarded
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>>150315131
Will global get the April Fools Yamcha though.
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>>150305665
This, I miss Teen Gohan's hair
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>>150315533
go back to where you came from gohanfag
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>>150305665
His Super style is much worse.
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Who is the Tito Dick Dickman Baby of dragonball?
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>>150315857
Master Roshi who else
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>>150315857
is this a jojo reference
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>>150315960
that's a rather fast reply anon it's like you keep your eye balls open at this thread 24/7 rather creepy you fat weeb virgin.
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>>150315857
american Italians are disgusting
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>>150313778
Zamasu!
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>>150315857
Wasn't there an edit with the old demon guy from the Super Dragon Ball Heroes opening?
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>>150316048
he is dead no need to call him anymore.
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>Ningen when they mean mortals or non-divine living entities, because Saiyans and other xenoi aren't humans.
>Cyborgs, not Androids, because 18 and 17 are clearly still part human if they can procreate with other humans. Unlike Android 16, who really is 100% mechanical.
>And it should be timeline multiverse, not "world".
Why is Tori and the writers this ignorant of using the proper words to describe something? It's not hard.
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>>150316098
Zamas...
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>>150316125
i told you anon he is dead it's time to move on and find another.
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>>150316098
SHUT THE FUCK UP HE'S NOT DEAD
GODS DONT DIE YOU STUPID NINGEN
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>>150316048
>Next arc
>He picks a new apprentice
>He too, fucking hates ningen
>Once again he does nothing about this and his apprentice becomes the villain of the arc
How happy would you be
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>>150316179
At that point, Gowasu should just ki blade himself through the chest.
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>>150316119
"Sekai" is often used in multiple senses by Japanese speakers in general. The other ones are Toriyama exclusive writing oddities though.
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>>150316179
I wouldn't be happy at all unless this new apprentice is Zamasu incarnate
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>>150316167
shhh...it's okay anon we have to let go.
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> Show is half way done
> no timeskip
I guess it's so they don't get too overwhelmed with franchising goods. like fuckinn "Kid Trunks (Super version teen)" bullshit. And make anoher new Trunks for every games.

What are your opinions? Should they prioritize the show based on its franchises or the other way like it used to be?
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>>150299053
wat

goten looks like a pudgy 2 year old, trunks looks like 7
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>>150316277
>beining this much of a fuccboi
damn it anon you know there is a limit on how to do things.
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>>150316179
>>150316264
>Next arc
>He picks a new apprentice
>it's a cute innocent loli
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>>150316167
True, now that he attained god status, he didn't die. He got rendered non-existent.
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>>150316267
He is not dead, perfection cannot die, gods cannot die. I have nothing to let go of
>>150316325
>>150316318
DELETE THIS!!!
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>>150316277
the show is nowhere near half way done this shit is literally going on forever
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>>150311352
New co-director got into the show with this episode. I guess from the production side it was easier to start with standalone episodes without much action, rather than the climax of an arc.
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>Beerus threatens to destroy the world for real this time
>Goku teleports to Kaioshin and shivs him and Beerus dies instantly
>Whis shrugs and goes home since he has no job anymore
How is Beerus supposed to be a credible villain when even Yajirobe can kill him instantly through his weak spot?
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>>150316317
literally what? Did I say something bad?
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>>150316277
Fuck the franchises
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>>150298873
Comic book powerlevels are BS, too, that could give DB a run for its money. I don't get how you people don't understand this. You have one comic with Deathstroke knocking out by pointing his fist towards the Flash, who can move faster than time and outrun death (yes, I know that doesn't make any sense), and have that exact same Flash beat Superboy, a character who is Supes from another universe that can alter reality by simply punching it. PUNCHING IT. I don't know how that's possible, but it's probably on par with the BS Goku pulled with his Kaio-ken SSB that can outrun time like the Flash. Comics aren't consistent with their powerlevelss, and just like Toriyama, are of sick it and only have fights determined by its plot convenience, not consistent powers characters are capable of.
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>>150316179
Zamasu is irreplaceable
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>>150316379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giAirShMPLw
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>>150316379
Goku would probably still rather fight Beerus than beat him in such a lame way. Almost every lame way of killing a villain is immediately rendered void by "Goku and Vegeta don't want to win using lame tactics"
Spirit bomb is not lame
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>>150316400
>a character who is Supes from another universe that can alter reality by simply punching it. PUNCHING IT. I don't know how that's possible,

He was punching a physical wall that was connected to the essence of reality (and allowed him to see anywhere) - the shockwaves from that impact changed reality due to that connection.

It's not like he was just punching air and that changed reality.
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>>150302429

>Frieza's hell seemed like heaven
>everyone enjoying themselves and having fun while a really evil guy is powerless to stop it
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We need more 18, please TOEI!
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>>150316561
for what? She is as worthless as any other human fighters now.
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>>150316119
Honestly, Future Trunk's earth was the only place that mattered at that point. We didn't even get to see the other universes in that timeline, and the only characters from other universes that weren't Zamasu or Gowasu, was Zeno. I'm not surprised that Trunks would only care about his world, because that's probably the only world left alive before Zeno destroyed literally everything.
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>>150316603
fanservice you faggot

bikini episode when?
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>>150316642
> show directed towards children
> fan service
keep crying for it faggot
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>>150316642
>wanting Super 18 in a bikini
Z18 or GT18 would be better imo
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>>150316711
>Super 18
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>>150316684
>show directed towards children
>hookers on speed dial
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>>150316460
Hey this fusion doesn't look terrible like most in this game
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>>150305665
Future Gohan was better
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>>150317040
>better
no matter the timeline gohan will and always will be a failure.
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>>150307195
>Wasteland
>(you know the one)
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>>150306538
>Next time on Pimp My Cooler
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How much retconning is Super going to need if it still takes place before the introduction of Uub? I mean, the last episode of Z has Goku saying that Uub is on par with him and Vegeta, despite not being trained. And that Uub was regarded as Goku's replacement due to the fact that Gohan is still a scholar and is implied that he doesn't fight anymore, just like Goten, if Goku is telling the truth.
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>>150316400
>but it's probably on par with the BS Goku pulled with his Kaio-ken SSB that can outrun time like the Flash.

That wasn't him "outrunning time", though. He was just acting preemptively to greater and greater degrees as his own personal power rose.
Nowhere near as bullshit as Wally West Flash in general.
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>>150317156
Delete end of z, there done.
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>>150317161
>Nowhere near as bullshit as Wally West Flash in general.
that's not saying much, though.
Wally outran his own editorial mandated retcon.
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>>150316805
Leave the androids to me.
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>>150317156
Goku probably means that Uub has a lot of potential - for a human.
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>>150317156
None. Don't use EoZ, Uub's shit anyway.
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>>150316347
Hey handsome.
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>>150314833
Weren't there two in U6?
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>>150316316
Yes they kinda explained it in the Jaco manga that Saiyans don't really age, they will look like 4-7 untill they are like 16-18 that is when they get hit like a thousand trucks by Saiyan puberty and finally grow up.
It still doesn't explain Gohan who looked like this when he was 9, but whatever.
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>>150317156
>Toriyama remembering Uub
Don't count on it
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>>150317453
He was in Neko Majin
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>>150317161
Didn't Goku say the Kaioken put him on such a high level that the time stop just didn't work anymore?
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>>150317453
he was in Neko Majin you massive fucking retard
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How much younger is Marron supposed to be than Goten and Trunks?
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>>150317432
>It still doesn't explain Gohan who looked like this when he was 9, but whatever.
half Saiyan. Probably got a more gradual growth.
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>>150317432
Well Gohan is pretty tall for a saiyan.
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>>150317453
Uub was already mentioned in Super plus he was in Neko Majin dumbass
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>>150317464
>>150317512
>Toriyama remembering Uub when writing up Super
Don't
count
on
it
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>>150317453
Goku mentioned him in 28. He was born right before the U6 tournament
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>>150317520
young enough
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Does Mai wear anything under her coat?
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Leave Hit to me, dad.
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You guys are retarded as fuck, Beerus didn't even power up, have you ever seen him blasting aura to power up ever? it could maybe kill entire planets around.

Goku has already powered up like a thousand times on earth and didnt even destroy anything.

Beerus' power is still unknown stop complaining about power levels, he may even have more forms, he doesn't even train.
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>>150317561
I bet if he let Mai do the wish for him he would have the wish.
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>>150317520
like 3 years younger 4 max, unlike Goten and Trunks she really doesn't have an excuse to look like that.
Also it must really suck to be a girl and have a mom as hot as 18 just for you to inherit your father's shitty manlet genes and looks.
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>>150317636
He did when he fought SSG Goku. Their auras turned into dragons or some shit
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>>150317637
I don't know she looks pretty retarded right there.
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>>150317636
I wonder about that too. If Beerus really wanted to fight Goku at full power, Beerus would probably have done it in that mysterious fog "room of space and time" in Whis' staff.
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>>150317669
At least she's not a slut with raging monkey hormones like Pan
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>>150317608
Maybe she wears her pink nightgown under the coat.
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>>150316267
Does anybody else feel pretty empty after watching the human 16 scene in the new TFS Episode? I mean... damn...
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>>150317608
My dick
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>>150317688
Better than being tackled by Trunks and Bulma and stomped to the ground by Gohan.
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>>150317510
That's what I thought he meant by that.
Besides, it did work, after Hit improved it further.
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>>150317761
Well he DID join a homicidal terrorist group.
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>>150317761
Didn't Gero's son die because of a stray bullet or something?
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>>150317761
Nah. Fuckers are now trying to make their own OC instead of a parody.
You either die like a hero or live long enough to end like LK or TFS.

Besides 16 is not a cyborg/artificial human like 18 or 19. He is an android/robot
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>>150317156
>I mean, the last episode of Z has Goku saying that Uub is on par with him and Vegeta, despite not being trained.
That was just Goku hyping him before they met each other though. When they fight it's clear Uub is still behind them and he'll need to train him.

He also was never regarded as "Goku's placement", Goku wanted someone to have fun fighting with, not some kind of replacement earth defender.
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>>150317885
I dunno. Seems likely. Everyone always forgets that the Red Ribbon Army mostly fought a guerilla war against the Earth army and the King Guard.
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>>150292259
Am I the only one who dislikes this slice-of-life style filler? This is the best thing they can add as filler. I want to see more of the relationships between the supporting cast.

The relationship between Krillin and 18 has always been awesome. The best part of the Resurrection of F was when 18 said, "HE'S SO COOL!" while looking on in adoration of Krillin as he flew off to fight Frieza's henchmen.
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>>150317931
Toriyama said in an interview that Gero based his appearance on his son who was a Red Ribbon member who had died. They based it on that.
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>>150317931
This. The whole Cell arc has been fucking shit except for the imperfect cell bits. They need to move on to Buu fast.
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>>150316549
The fact that Superboy can harm a wall that represents all of reality is total nonsense in itself. At the very least, breaking the barrier that represents the essence of reality means that character has to be OP. Also, Superboy has certain powers that makes him a tough cookie: he's immune to reality warpers, because he exists outside of the multiverse, is magic proof, and has fought almost everyone from the DC universe to a standstill. It's like someone wanted to make a Supes that was stronger than Silver Age Superman and Superman 853rd Century combined.
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thread died again :(
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>>150318039
you're shit
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Didn't Vegeta job to Hit because using SSB repeatedly will fail?

In the Zamasu arc they were turning SSB on and off like every episode. So did they master it or what?
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>>150317561
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>>150318498
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>>150318534
post f trunks flirt with f mai
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>>150318713
This one?
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>>150318786
yes thank you.
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How much stronger than Vegito would have been the potara fusion between Goku and Mystic Gohan in Super Buu saga?
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>>150292259
>no more time machines
ok, but why nobody else from earth would become friends with overpower-zeno-sama?
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>>150317761
No I thought it was just another instance of TFS trying too hard.
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>>150317931
>>150318005
Toriyama is shit.
>I said something in an interview 15 years ago
>So it's canon
>Even if neither the anime nor the manga nor the daizenshuu reference it

No wonder he keeps forgetting shit. Like how everyone keeps referring to 18 as 18, even though she supposedly has a fucking name.
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>>150304872
I wish.
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tfw no one in the dbverse can beat the one punch
feels bretty gud
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>>150319159
it can come true though all you have to do is just kill yourself in the quickest way possible and you will have that wish granted to you.
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>>150319165
I'm pretty sure Zeno could match him.
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>>150303888
Toryama didnt think it that far and neither should you.
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>>150296109
Beerus sucks, I dont know why people like him.
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>>150319108
>Like how everyone keeps referring to 18 as 18, even though she supposedly has a fucking name.
she doesn't remember her own name you idiot, her memory was wiped.
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>>150319213
nah
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>>150319259
I'll like anyone stronger than that smug jackass Goku.
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>>150317272
Still more visual appealing then SSGB
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>>150319378
Fuck off back to Furryexico, you brony scum.
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>>150319293
I don't see why not. I don't even care about what cartoon character can beat up who, but Zeno's power is -as far as we know- effectively unlimited. Nigger destroys entire universes in a temper tantrum. It puts him in the same ballpark as mr. can defeat literally anything ever.

Zeno vs Saitama would be an unstoppable force vs an immovable object.
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Does beerus fuck bulma on the reg
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>>150319461
not him but there's nothing wrong with liking SSJ4.
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>>150319507
hi anon hows ur day been going so far?
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>>150306911

No they fucked it up. Zamasu should have freaked out the instant Beerus blocked his strike.

The best scene was goku fighting Zamasu in the present

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yqwe3Ks7uk
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>>150319487
Saitama isn't a superhero. He is a gag.

A guy wanting the typical shonen hero life except he will never find a worthy opponent.
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>>150319507
No but Vegeta fucks Bulma on the rag.

Saiyans don't care about blood.
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>>150319716
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>>150319378
Not at all. It's a saturated transformation. SSB is smooth and charming.
>>150319533
>There's nothing wrong with having shit taste
Ffy
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Am I the only one who thought this was the funniest part of this arc?

>"n-nani?! what is that"
>"i dunno lol"

It was at this point that Black was confirmed to be a parody
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>>150319165
Arale.
Only a gag character can defeat another.
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>>150318039
You're a faggot. The episodes lately have been some of the strongest they've had.

Besides if you don't like the episodes now what makes you think the quality (in your opinion) will suddenly improve suddenly because they change arcs?

Wait! You're one of those people that say the android/cell saga sucks doesn't it? Those people are as bad as Star Wars prequel apologist.
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>>150310574
Goku told Pan that she will become a Super Saiyan in the episode where he babysits her
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Gogeta >> Vegito

Vegito is just amplified power.

Meanwhile Gogeta really has god like abilities like Stardust Breaker.
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>>150320347
>Wait! You're one of those people that say the android/cell saga sucks doesn't it? Those people are as bad as Star Wars prequel apologist.
Wait, what?
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>>150320347

The last couple episodes of DBZA have been solid gold. In fact this whole season has been except episode 54.

But the android saga of DBZ is by far the weakest. Every fight up until the cell games was just one sided stomp after one sided stomp after one sided stomp, except for like, piccolo vs 17. All the characters were dumb assholes and the decoupling of the alleged power scales to visual demonstration was fucking dumb.
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>>150320113
It would have been fine if it was about Black learning what the extent of his new powers was, but he just fused and it was never addressed again.
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>>150310445
>>150311209

Hopefully never.
Die in a hole, waifufag scum.
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>>150320347
Android/Cell is objectively the worst saga in all of Dragon Ball you stupid cuck.

Wait! You're probably a retarded gohanfag.
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Don't mind me just posting an autism chart and sharing this.
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>>150320627
You're a faggot

>>150320475
One sided? Like just about every battle in DBZ once or until so and so gets a particular power? So many examples I could use here.
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>>150320778
>you're a fag hahah xDddd ebin

Kill yourself you autistic mongrel.
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>>150320105
I don't get why so many people have SSB. Throughout DBZ we see many different SSJ forms, and a lot of them end up being failures due to excess of mass killing speed, or due to excess of Ki consumption.

Then in BoG, God Ki was introduced and showed perfect Ki control with an even reduced mass, making a lot more sense for martial arts even if the series kind of departed from that. SSB is just SSJ, but using Godly Ki to manage all of its improvements.
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>>150320722
I would like to see one of these, but with movie and GT characters included just for shits and gigs.
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>>150320874
SSB is fine. It was one of the only ways to continue the power scaling without it becoming too retarded.

The only people who hate it are the autistic mexicans and niggers who cream all over Broly, furshit, and muscles.
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>>150320778

>One sided? Like just about every battle in DBZ once or until so and so gets a particular power?

No. In the saiyan saga, piccolo and goku were individually outmatched by radditz but together had what it took to kill him. The human fighters got wrecked by Nappa but goku vs vegeta was incredible.

On Namek, most of the fights up until goku shows up were at least competitive, and even when he did, we still got a good fight out of Ginyu swapped goku fighting with gohan and krillin while Vegeta took Jeice. The frieza fight really, really dragged on and was mostly one sided up until goku went super saiyan, but at least it had good animation.

In the android saga, it was Trunks destroys frieza. Goku destroys 19 until he gets a heart attack. Vegeta destroys 19 and 20. 17 destroys 20. 18 destroys everyone. Piccolo destroys cell. 17 and piccolo have a decent fight, but then cell shows up and destroys them both. Then vegeta shows up and destroys him, until he lets cell eat 18 and then cell destroys vegeta and trunks. Most of which had garbage animation.

In the Buu saga, the only completely one sided fights were when Buu first appeared, which was completely appropriate and foreshadowed, and vegeto. And every fight was well animated.
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>>150320824
I've never heard a reason as to why android/cell saga is bad, faggot.

Everything I've heard is equivalent to retards trying to explain why the Star Wars prequels or Batman Versus Superman Dawn of Justice are good/underrated movies.

Get fucked, faggot.
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>>150320105
>Not at all. It's a saturated transformation. SSB is smooth and charming

It's literally standard Saiyan colored blue instead of yellow anon. It doesn't even have that "special" feeling that only Gold light can convey.
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>>150320874
Because it's fucking boring. There's no drama,

It's visually limp and because the writers and directors just...do not give a single solitary fuck about or have the skill to show off "power levels" it's at no point had any real impact beyond just being blue ssj1.
And that would be kind of okay, if they had decent battles or it had some kind of distinctive advantage like Ultra saiyajin or SSJ3 coupled with a major disadvantage.
That's what makes all of the new forms cool and unique and fun.
But it doesn't.

It's fucking boring.
It really is.
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>>150320989
No, you fucking retard.
The power is still going up.
Giving them blue hair as opposed to blonde but having less visually impactive fights =/= fix the power scaling "issue" as you call it.

As a matter of fact, the fucking idiotic fucking fight between the crimson fuccboi and nyarlothep was supposed to BIG ENOUGH TO RIP APAHT DA UNIVERSE or some such stupid bullshit meaning that it is in all ways you can fucking mention WORSE then the power scaling at any point in fucking Z.
And to top it off, the fights are boring, visually unimpressive and creatively dead.
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>>150321035
The Star Wars prequels being bad are pretty easy to explain, Episode I are all the scenes Lucas wanted in the original trilogy but was unable to make (pod racing, underwater city, senate), while Episode II are all the scenes Lucas though fans wanted (Jedi vs Mandalorian, Storm Troopers hitting something, jedis fighting) . The real problem is Lucas planned the scenes and then pasted them together with a shitty non-sensical story. For example Anakin have a lot of good scenes but the Darth Vader story arc makes no sense at all.
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>>150321092
It's fine to have a change of pace. SSJ and SSJ2 were introduced in almost the same way, it was great, but you can't just have the transformations all coming at a time of need. Especially since the properties of God forms don't fit with rage (except for Trunks' form which is still a mystery).

SSJ3 was very shitty beyond the transformation scene, and I'd say even with shit animation SSB has been used better. It doesn't want to be flashy, that's the point: it's just SSJ with Godly Ki, and kind of like when Goku and Gohan mastered SSJ.
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>>150320105
>>There's nothing wrong with having shit taste
there's nothing wrong with liking both dipshit,
Funny because I have this picture as a poster on my wall.
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>>150304896
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>>150321192
I really feel like you are just blinding yourself in your nostalgia.
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>>150321035
>time travel shit
>"these are the enemies, no wait THESE are, oh no, he is"
>literally only one good fight in the entire arc
>shit animation
>shit pacing
>shit main villain
>gohan being useless for 2/3 of the arc only to get the biggest asspull in the series
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>tfw only one that likes F. Trunks's Pseudo SSB transformation
i think it's the best transformation of super.
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>>150321356
it's literally the only transformation from Super, the previous two are from movies.
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>>150321236
I like SSJ3 a lot because it set a precedent for the arc early on. Just powering up to the next form wasn't enough; a point that was later hammered in by Gohan getting beaten and later absorbed.
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>>150321356

I liked its introduction at least
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>>150321399
Which is a point that has been followed in Super, except people complain now.
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>>150321391
you forgot about rose which is a second for me while the others are last.
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>>150320887
>broly stronger than them all just to piss everyone off

kek
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>>150302429
Dabura being sent to heaven is canon, but it never actually shows what happens to him there.
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>>150321532
>is canon
we meet again canon spreg anon.
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>>150321456
>Broly
>stronger than anyone post-Cell saga
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>>150321570
If it's in the manga it's canon, if it's not then it's not.
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>>150321593
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>>150321593

But his power is maximum
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>>150321593
>thats the meme
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>>150321611
>toei
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>>150321604
what are you trying to say here? It didn't happen in the manga.
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>>150321447
>Liking Trunks' discount SSJB made in china better than utsukushii true kami ssj.
I am not even meming SSJ rose looks way better than whatever the fuck Trunksis.
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>>150321654
Black is cute! CUTE!!!
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>>150321625
Beerus power is beyond maximum
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>>150321625
We need to go further. Maximum Blue Maximum
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>>150321643

jesus that fight was fucking terrible. Second worst in the show besides the fight with the bear
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>>150321701
Broly LSSJB4 when?
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>>150321654
oh shit somebody else who uses vlc my bro let's have a vlc off and post vlc shots we have of super.
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Will Tarble ever show up in Super? I want to see cute brother shenanigans with him and Vegeta
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Dragon ball is is the biggest meme anime ever at this point. What a let down lmao
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>>150321236
I'm not just talking about different levels of SSJ.

SSJ was a technique, no different from the kaioken or kamehawave.
It was a technique that had to be trained for and used in a certain way that had very distinctive traits.
"power signature" you know energy effects and what not, build of the character, strengths and weaknesses.
That was good. Really good.

The new forms had FUCK ALL to do with rage outside of attaining the forms for the first time.
After that it's just been learning how to perfect it or make it their own technique that is useful for certain battles and what not.

You don't get new fucking levels of SSJ just by being pissed. Doesn't fucking happen. Get short bursts of power, but that's about it.

Trunks form? It litterally comes from the writers/directors not understanding how any of it works logically or dramatically.
It's just a nonsensensical mary sue form that fits absolutely nowhere.

The thing with God Ki is...it's not proven to be fucking anything exept a way to have a new form and thats it. It's shown no interesting visually distinctive anything, it has no greater mroe interesting power boosts nor does it have any negatives that would make it unique. It's just blue haired SSJ1 and that's fucking it.
It's boring.

SSJ3 has 3 things going for it that makes it superior as a super form.
1.It's visually distinctive and cool as fuck.
2.It's has real power advantages and feats behind it.
3.It has real disadvantagages that makes fights more interesting

SSJB? It's SSJ1 except blue with nothing else too it. Blue isn't even a fucking cool energy signature color. They could have had fucking SSJW but they wanted Zamasu.. Hell I would have preferred if they just got red hair and dumped the skinny nerd build shit.
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>>150316684
> show directed towards children
> fan service
What is Digimon?
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>>150316684
> show directed towards children
> fan service
What is Pokemon?
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>>150321316
Dude, the only reason I'm still watching this cheaply produced badly written trash is nostalgia.

The only reason ANYONE is watching this or buying fucking anything with DB in or on it is fucking nostalgia.
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>>150321892
manga is quality though.
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>>150321887
Pokemon has been around long enough for three generations of people to watch it together and know all of the characters.
It's not a kids show. It's a family show.
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>>150321353
>>150321024
>not enjoying Trunks destroying Frieda with his sword
>not enjoying the best filler episode ever when Goku & Piccolo go to driving school
>not enjoying Vegetas struggle in becoming a SSJ then fight with 18
>not loving piccolokami fusion, his meeting with creepy cell then fight with 17
>not loving that filler episode Krillin fights creepy imperfect cell
>not liking #16 vs cell
>not being enthralled by Tiens last stand against semi-perfect cell
>not being in awe of Vegetas final flash
>not enjoying goku and gohan casually walking around as SSJ to everyone's confusion
>not blown away by possibly the best done fight of the entire series in Goku vs Perfect Cell
>not bing graced by the awesomeness that is Mr. Satan
>not being satisfied by Gohan going SSJ2 and fully realizing his potential that the series had been building up to since he had been introduced(fuck yourself if you say it's an asspull)
>not loving the father son kamehameha where all of the Z warriors helped in contributing in distracting Cell so Gohan could deliver the blow and have the torch passed down to him
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>>150322001
and Dragon Ball is over 30 years old, what's your point?
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>>150321847
>SSJB? It's SSJ1 except blue with nothing else too it.
Well it has a couple good things about it. Its a power level that is on a god's level which means for people who normally can read power levels through sensing them, its harder from them to track. Also its more of a coming of age things for Saiyans, or at least how its shown through the anime. God Kai comes form internal mastery of Kai control while SSJ was more of an emotional response for more power. SSG similar to SSJ is a multiplier but on another level as you've pointed out. But it does have perks and draw backs. Like one draw back would be the amount of stamina it takes to be in that form similar to SSJ3. You're correct SSB doesn't add a new look but it is more viable than SSJ3
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....aaaaaand the thread died again out of no where :/
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>>150322313
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>>150321353
Its like you never even seent it
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>>150322313
Then say something worth discussing, bitch faggot.
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>>150317632
More like Leave dad to me, Hit.
>Got Goku blown up by Cell
>lured Goku into getting laser'd by Frieza's henchmen
>forced Goku to deal with Chi chi's bullshit again by jobbing against Buu
Real FV should be Gohan.
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>>150322506
Sounds like he read a Wikipedia article, hunh?
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>>150321887
Stay out of the anime discussion threads DBSfag. /a/ is where your home is.
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>>150322256
>Well it has a couple good things about it. Its a power level that is on a god's level which means for people who normally can read power levels through sensing them making it hard for them to track
Which means nothing.
They are at a level where the only people who would be an actual threat to them can read their power levels.
Secondly, god level power has been a thing since...demon piccolo saga. The thing that seperates them?
Higher numbers and visual distinction. Showing off said powerlevel without decimating a planet to do so.
The fights have been fairly underwhelming and had no visually distinctive way to show that they are at a new higher powerlevel outside of blue hair.

>Also its more of a coming of age things for Saiyans, or at least how its shown through the anime.
Pretty sure the saiyans sprouted their first pube had sex had babies and built a career all at once with the SSJ form.

>God Kai comes form internal mastery of Kai control while SSJ was more of an emotional response for more power.
God ki isn't a saiyajin only thing. It's an all beings thing.
Two things, there is less then no fucking reason that other characters in DB shouldn't have god ki or the ability to have god ki at all. It makes no fucking sense that it's being pushed as a Saiyajin only thing.

>SSG similar to SSJ is a multiplier but on another level as you've pointed out.
No, it's just SSJ1 with god ki. That's it.

>But it does have perks and draw backs. Like one draw back would be the amount of stamina it takes to be in that form similar to SSJ3.
It outright states that it's not a ki hungry as SSJ3 it even goes out of it's way to show that in the series.
>You're correct SSB doesn't add a new look but it is more viable than SSJ3
It's only viable because it's more powerful. If it was as ki hungry as SSJ3 it wouldn't be viable at all beyond a few minutes. SSJ3 form is basically a full out hard sprint while pulling a wagon full of kids that are screaming FASTER DAD!!
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>>150319083
>trying too hard.
Fuck this always gets me.
Why the fuck would you not want someone to try too hard? Would you rather them not try at all and shit out a 4 minute episode where Vegeta says "Bazinga" or have them actually put what they would consider effort into a damn episode?
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>>150322394
Why does Krillian want to bang Gero's granddaughter?
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>>150322528
rude anon i bet your fun art parties
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>>150317528
Enjoy it while you can, cuz theres no way that stupid shit is gonna make it into the manga
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>>150322064
Android/cell was the fucking best, everyone else can suck my dick
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>>150320113
I like it because its a deviation from the long drawn out explanations/edgy speeches most shonen have with everything.

"lol i dunno" is 1000 times better than the usual "I DREW THIS OUT OF THE DARK ABYSS OF MY HATRED" or some shit

but then again he basically says the latter 10 seconds later
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it died again! somebody gather the dragon balls the thread is running on life support of how much it's dying ;-;
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>>150306016
Fuck you I'm making my "okay end" fanfiction.

She and Ox King are off farming and taking care of some remnant of Ox King's kingdom.
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I missed the last episode. Is this series back to being complete ass now that ZAMASU is gone?
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>>150322864
filler
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>>150322963
i will tell u if u say hi to me anon
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>>150322963
wait for December 7th for the next canon arc reveal for the manga first.
If anything because the manga will be leading the way, the tv adaptation by Toei can step up their game in terms of authenticity and quality storyboards/animations to replicate from the manga from now on.
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>>150322974
huh?
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this is dragonball general related...

anyone playing Dragonball Fusions?

How do I fuse? :( Not EX Fuse but fusion dance fuse?
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>>150323028
don't expect any quality new discussions while we're stuck in filler hell.
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>>150323034
i'll tell u the method to fuse if you say hi to me anon :)
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>>150322593
Take a look at the tournament.

That arc tells you everything you need to know about what they understand about DBZ.
Everyone else are just bystanders.
Gohan is out of the picture because he's too powerful.
Beerus Whis, Whis's fuck hot sister Vados, and Champa "you mad nigga?" the GoD watching and commenting.
Goku, Vegeta standing center stage with Vegeta doing cool stuff occasionally and Jobbing, Goku fighting cooly and having fun but getting his shit slapped till things pop off and he's needed then he pulls something moderately cool out of his ass.


The one thing the anime brought to the table that I want more of is interesting takes on ssj form enhancements like Kaioken and bringing back old techniques and using them in novel ways. The latter only works if they have well thought out villians and stories though..which they haven't been able to do latey.
I mean, they had a good super heroic frieza proxy for fucks sake and they threw it away so they had yet another freiza stand in for vegeta to fucking beat up.

I also like the idea of Hit.
This bad ass super fighter from that universe that at no point has ever had to fight anyone seriously..
That is actually hobbled by the fact that he can't use his brutal instant kill fighting techniques.
Best part?
He's never had to ever really TRY against anyone or really fought for long periods.
So he has no idea of how to power up or increase his own power dude from another universe screaming and powering up and thinks "worth a shot" and copies him. It does NOTHING for him. So he just decides to just try to fight better and use his ki and skills better and it actually works.

Thats' fucking cool and a complete departure from what we've seen. I would have actually liked to see a real ceiling being placed on their power levels and them having to train to learn new abilities and techniques and skills without resorting to universe ending full on power fights. Make it part of the training with whis.
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>>150323055
oh... by the way anon i wanna tell you a secret are you ready? here it is.. hi anon hows your day been going?
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>>150322984
hi
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>>150323187
hi anon how are you?
and yes black and zamasu gone poof!
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>>150317432
Gohan is a fucking mutant who's power doesn't come from being half saiyajin half mutant. It comes from his supposed demonic heritage which enhances and pushes his saiyajin/human hybrid powers to a ridiculous peak.

This has been established since he was a infant. Who was in canon the single strongest single mortal being on the planet from the moment he was born.

By the end of DBZ he will be roughly 6'5" and will probably be damn near 7 foot by the time he's in his thirties and having to take care of his second and third child.
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>>150320887
The problem with GT powerlevels is that they are pretty inconsistent.
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>>150323021
Yeah, I'm not gonna even bother until then. Hopefully Toriyama will roll out something interesting, and with some tension.
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>>150323230
explain how Goten a shit then.
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>>150323230
And thats why he stopped training, because he could feel the evil welling up inside him as he got stronger. But seeing Trunkusu again lit the fire in his soul! He began training like an absolute madman in secret to surprise his family and frens despite the dangers...

Can he keep the darkness at bay, or will he succumb to evil?

Gohan Black next arc.
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>>150323255
>The problem with GT powerlevels is that they are part of GT

fixd
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>>150323074
Sorry for rambling but I have to get this out.

The SSJ3 form is it when it comes to mortal SSJ tranformations. Like the top shelf.
And it's a form so powerful and so dangerous that transforming into it literally shakes the world and would probably destroy it, not only that it's so dangerous that it comes with it's zenkai boosts if the transformee can survive the strain of it.

It has ridiculous power output but also ridiculous power consumption and ki control needs. It's taxing on every single part of goku's body and mind. His latest SSJ3 forms are him trying to make a more stable, less damaging, and potentially safer form of the SSJ3 to transform into. the problem is that it handicaps the form and makes it functionally weaker then a well trained SSJ2.
If goku had used a true SSJ3 he'd have done real damage to beerus..but he'd be completely fucked for days after.

God Ki is basically a better quality of Ki that isn't as dangerous as the higher forms of the SSJ. It has almost no negative impact on the world or their own bodies but it highly taxing(supposedly but that's never been shown ever) and if they aren't careful they could easily destroy the world they are on by being highly careless.
99% of the training with whis should have been about them learning to control it, fight better with said power, and master new techniques that allow them to fight better without having to drop down into a full on power against power fight that would end in the destruction of everything around them and maybe even a solar system.
Can even have him subtly suggest that this is why he was so easily beaten by Beerus.

Hes' a master of destruction and has infinite power to spare, on top of techniques that they simply can not defeat or overcome as they are now.
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>>150323255
the same applies to super
>goku and vegeta having trouble dealing with unfused black
>then goku wrecks merged zamasu on his own
not to mention pretty much everything trunks-related
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>>150323300
Goten is literally goku jr plus chi-chi's childlike innocence from when she was a loli. Hell he fights like her from when she was in the tournament. Well a combo of her chinese inspired fighting techniques plus namekian ki manipulation and a kamehawave thrown in there.

He's got everything he needs to be a technical genius when it comes to fighting.

To be honest, the only thing goten and gohan have in common is that they are brothers and they're both more learned then their parents.

>>150323472
Eh....
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finally we hit 500 posts we always waste like 2-4 threads a day but with one we barely hit 500
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>>150323707
Are you seriously expecting major discussions during filler hell?
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>>150323837
Yes.
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>>150323641
>plus namekian ki manipulation
what did you mean by this?
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super saiyan when?
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>>150324101
Gohan learned how to manipulate ki from Piccolo. Basically every ki manipulation technique he has comes from him.

Other then the Kamehawave and Perfected SSJ1, Goku didn't teach him much of anything.
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tfw no new thread
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>>150324787
yes but the post was about Goten not Gohan.
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>>150324877
Who do you think taught Goten how to use Ki?
The had multiple fucking episodes/issues about it for fucks sake.
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>>150324231
>gohan swoops in after performing no effort and steals a wish for a fucking baby with a fever
I'm convinced Gohan exists only as a way to make me hate a character even more in ways I'd never thought of.
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>>150325635
that doesn't make it Namekian, show me an example of a Namekian technique used by Goten.
Inb4 Kamehameha Swerving technique, Goku used to do that and there's no need to label that as Namekian.
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>>150315249
Yes. he's already in the data files.
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