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Your Name./Kimi no Na wa. Thoughts

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I'm so happy that this was the first anime I saw at the cinemas. It was beautiful, and unlike other Makoto Shinkai films, it was amazing from the beginning... all the way to the very end!

It was a great experience seeing this with friends!

Australian theater with English subs by the way, so glad it wasn't dubbed.
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It brought me to tears twice; once from sadness, and once from happiness.
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>>150248137
It was amazing. Definitely Shinkai's best work.
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Ausfag here. There was one line that got translated wrong. It's near at the end when Mitsuha was running down the hill saying that she is looking forward to kiss him when they meet. Kinda triggered my autism. There were some a mumbling at the audiences as well when that happen. Probably because there are tons of Japenese in here.
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>>150248490
What was supposed to be said?
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>>150248428
Certainly! I'm going to be honest and say that I dislike 5 Centimeters Per Second and The Garden of Words.
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>>150249017
I wasn't a fan of 5cm/s but really liked Garden of Words so to each their own I suppose.
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>>150248986
There was no kiss involved in what she actually says. She was just looking forward to see Taki.
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>>150249460
Wow, hope the BD fixes that.
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>>150249170
Huh i liked 5cm and disliked garden of words
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5cm was significantly better than this
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>>150248137
Brisbane by any chance?
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>>150251176
imagine thinking this
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>>150248490
That wasn't TRANSLATED wrongly: it was a line from the song playing in the background that was shown by mistake. Why they didn't \an8 the song lyrics when their shitty software does support subtitle positioning baffles me.
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>>150251258
5cm didn't abandon the characters and themes halfway to focus on a plot that relied far too much on plot magic and manufactured climaxes
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>>150251193
Nah, NSW. Event.
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>Someone in the room burst out laughing when Mitsuha fell
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>>150251452
5cm had characters?
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>Clapping after the movie

Why?
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Was expecting sub, was dubbed but still enjoying it till the end.

The movie was great, the part where they write each other name was heartbreaking.
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>>150251452
It did have worse characters, lousy plot and a bland, unconvincing emotional narrative, though. I guess it was more consistent, and maybe being consistently mediocre is more valuable to you than being a flawed but overall good movie.
>>150251684
I dunno. I cringed as well.
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>>150251684
Because it was a beautiful movie, without a doubt Makoto Shinkai's best yet!
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>>150251624
5cm was heavily theme based and focused every aspect of the movie on bringing that out.

I mentioned characters and themes cause those were where Kimi no Na wa had a ton of potential. In fact what Kimi no Na wa actually did with the characters was really well done. But they had the stage and setting ready to embark on something greater, to really bring out the whole idea of "finding one's purpose" that came out of their drifting and dissatisfaction with their societies and the plot device that allowed them to experience another's. The characters had so much room to grow and be explored. But they didn't do that. It ended up being mostly a feel good movie with no strong focus.
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>>150251839
Hello Melbourne friend
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>>150251928
I don't actually think Kimi no Na wa is bad. I'd give it 7.5/10 (though thinking about it more seems to make me like it less). 5cm/s was an 8.5/10 for me, and a 9/10 for the manga version (which felt like a very different work, being character driven rather than an "artistic" kind of experience).
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>>150252355
Hell yeah, I thought there would be atleast someone from /a/ come to see today.

There were people laughing but Im ok with most of it. At the end there were some guys clapping, I think they tried to make people clap after, I did some and left right after that.
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Why didn't Taki knew the year when he was in her body before he found out she was in the past? Im sure her mobile diary would tell him.
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>>150252544
Don't sweat the small stuff.
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>>150252544
And they conveniently didn't decide to phone each other until the plot deemed it so.
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>>150252640
Japanese doesn't call each other unless they really needs to. But still, they should have texted each other. This could have easily dodged by making the setting somewhen before 2005 before the cellphone youth boom, but they forced the timeline into modern time so they can advertise for LINE.
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Character stuff in the first half was good, but all the stuff in the second half felt rushed, especially the infodump about the tragic family backstory.
I started caring a lot less when all the magic started happening. And I'd have like to have seen how Mitsuha convinced her father instead of cutting away. It felt like the emotional family backstory should have played a part there, but it was edited out perhaps, or just ignored.

Also the climax was silly emotional manipulation. I was kind of hoping he'd do a "fuck you" ending like 5cm, but he kept teasing it instead which was annoying. It's the first Shinkai work that I didn't cry over.

There were minor plot holes, but honestly who cares. Good movie, will watch again.
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>>150252421
Those are some generous ratings there, friend. Kimi no Na wa is a 7 for me and 5cm is a 6. Never read the manga.
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An anime season focusing on the body-swapping hijinks and their growing feelings for each other when? I want to know what Taki did that made a female student fall for Mitsuha, and how Mitsuha used her feminine charm on Okudera sempai that led to the date.
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The story made no goddamn sense. I mean, visuals and the OST were great, but the story has so many blatant holes and lacks in so many fields that I dont get how anyone can praise this film. Was it enjoyable if all you did was "watch"? Sure. But if you actually thought about it? Not at all.

-second&first part are completely disconnected
-the lovers meeting at the top of the hill shortly before the meteor crashing into the town felt horribly misplaced because they meet and are instantly ripped apart
-when the hell did the two even fall in love with each other? did all this character development happen offscreen? it sure as hell didnt happen onscreen
-why the hell does Taki ask for Mitsuhas name on the train, but doesnt follow her the second this over-dramatized scene of her handing him the braided shit happens? he just stays on the train even though clearly being curious? she left a fucking train, she didnt fall into a blackhole. and she just goes back to her village, cutting off her hair in depression even though Taki showing interest?
-why the hell does Taki not instantly remember who Mitsuha is the second she tells him her name after the first swap if in his timeline he had that fucking train incident happen which sure as hell should have stuck with him? after all it was so over-dramatized that this isnt something one does simply forget becuase it was a couple years back. the scene clearly was shown to be important and dramatic and it was later shown that he knew that it happened.
-if Taki remembers the high school in the village, then why the hell didnt he just google the name of it to find out were it was located?


cont.
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>>150251445
Yeah, that happened a few times throughout the movie. I felt bad for all the people who probably didn't realize.

>>150252945
They should have fleshed out their interchanging lives more. I'd be happy if they added another 30 mins into it, but that's obviously difficult with animation.
It was a bit of a shame that we didn't see their feelings towards each other grow over time. Instead we just got them waking up crying, and then an I love you way later.
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cont.

-why the fuck doesnt Mitsuha just tell all this shit to her father/grandmother? there is no way in hell that grandma/mother didnt experience stuff comparable to it which would make her story way more believable. hell her fucking father even implied that when Taki is in Mistuhas body that he knows that he isnt her. the fuck does he still not believe the story if his dead wife sure as hell told him about these "dreams" family members have/had? this shouldnt even be hard to sell considering how virtually every goddamn person in the village noticed how differently she behaved from time to time.
-Taki KNOWS that the twillight shit is going to be over and the two of them will lose each other (stop being able to see each other) yet even though suggesting to write down each others names himself to make it easier to find one another (he even points out that this is because THEY WILL FORGET THEIR FUCKING NAMES OTHERWISE) he decides to tell her that she loves her instead and doesnt write his fucking name
-AND WHY THE FUCK IS THE ENDING DRAGGED OUT BY 5 FUCKING YEARS OF THEM WALKING PAST EACH OTHER MULTIPLE TIMES? this might not be related to the plot but holy shit its so fucking annoying and bland. there could at least have been some proper closure, not just end it like that after showing all this "LUL I BARELY MISSED YOU LELELE" for 10 minutes on end.
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>>150252945
All I wanted from the movie was for Taki to be NTRed by Mitsuha in his body and for Taki in Mitsuha's body to have to deal with going to a public bath with Yotsuha and trying struggling not to perv on his loli not-sister and act casual.
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>>150253055
>AND WHY THE FUCK IS THE ENDING DRAGGED OUT BY 5 FUCKING YEARS OF THEM WALKING PAST EACH OTHER MULTIPLE TIMES?
They just want to shoehorn that moment from ITSUDEMO SAGASHITE IRU YO
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>>150252838
Well for me a the difference between a 7 and 8 is that if someone asks me about whether they'd should watch something, I'd say yes for an 8 and would only say yes for a 7 if they were into that genre (9 is high praise, 10s hold a special place in my heart). Kimi no Na wa has a lot of issues but what it did well (characters, setting, art), it did really well.
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>>150252789
>I was kind of hoping he'd do a "fuck you" ending like 5cm
I don't understand why anyone would want this unless they were a total misanthrope
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>>150253011
>>150253055
didn't you post this yesterday
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I'll have my rant here so hopefully no one else can be disillusioned that this is anything other than an average film that is being overhyped by people with incredibly low standards for films.

I did get suckered into believing that this would be a big moment for anime in the west. The plot begins super standard, I chuckled a few times because switching bodies with a qt3.14 girl in highschool is a funny idea. They started gaming the system and wreaking havoc in each others worlds but nothing irreversible because their friends and family are very gullible. Okay so that's forgivable, whatever. They could text message at any time, whatever. The problem is that they are such bland fucking characters that when shit does hit the fan, it is so low on tension that whole second half of the film may as well not exist. What even happened? We don't even get to see the thing that is alluded to happening happen at all. Destruction, sure. But the audience just keeps on getting fucked over because Shinkai can't decide what the goal or motivation is for anyone, so they just keep on changing in less and less convincing ways.

More montages in the style of music videos, each time I'm like, is it over yet? Then when it is over it's classic Shinkai ending, so no one is surprised there.

What a joke that this becomes the second highest grossing anime film to Spirited Away in Japan.
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>>150248137
>Australian theater with English subs by the way
Just finished watching it at a Aus cinema myself. The movie in all honestly is average and the subs literally fucking triggered me.

WHY WAS THERE FUCKING PISS YELLOW AND FUCKING GREEN SUBS
WHY DID SENTENCES NOT HAVE FULL STOPS AND JUST HAD WORDS NEXT TO EACH OTHER WITH CAPITALS.
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>>150253394
its way too Japanese to be the Spirited Away successor people may or may not be championing it as. With all the leg shots, boob grabs, and so on.
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>>150252789
>I'd have like to have seen how Mitsuha convinced her father instead of cutting away. It felt like the emotional family backstory should have played a part there, but it was edited out perhaps, or just ignored.
THIS
Why was the mother even mentioned? It felt like a cheap way to make you cry instead of connection to the plot or character motivations.
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>>150253487
I recall in the thread yesterday someone mentioned it felt like a TV anime. And it does, there was even a panty shot.
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>>150253464
Was it just typical WA jank, or were they all like that?
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>>150253512
The cut away at that point was such a cheap shot. Mitsuha convincing her dad would be a difficult scene to execute, but it could provide the much needed exploration and closure to the plot thread of Mitsuha's family. Instead you get the bullshit "they all died oh wait they didn't" comet shot
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>>150253487
>>150253595
I'd say not really. The character dialogue for the most part feels far more natural than the nonsense on TV anime, but there are a few moments (like the times Mitsuha calls Taki a pervert).
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>>150253699
I'm guessing quite a few plot elements were cut, due to the financial restrictions of making animation that looks this good.
None of his other works simply abandoned obvious plot threads like that.
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>>150253765
It's better written than TV anime to be sure, but there are still points where it can disconnect with/alienate western audiences
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>>150253765
He was a pervert though
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>>150251524
Exact same thing happened at my cinema tonight. Macquarie 7pm?

Thankfully no one clapped though.
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>>150253699
>Instead you get the bullshit "they all died oh wait they didn't" comet shot
Eh, the comet shot didnt even remotely imply that. No lights, not a single person and the damages are shown from like half a dozen angles etc. They made it pretty clear that people been evacuated.
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>>150253765
>(like the times Mitsuha calls Taki a pervert).
She wasn't exactly wrong.
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>>150253464
Better than my screening.
>subs were white
>couldn't see shit when it was bright
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>both go to school every day
>never find out what year it is
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>>150253971
Kek, I didnt even realize this before. Add it to the list.
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>>150253865
Nah mate, Highpoint 4pm session
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>>150254057
Really? I thought we only have 6:30 and another one after.
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>>150253651
>>150253896
They all have the same subtitles, dudes. They didn't commission a set when another already exists. I'm pretty sure they were the same ones that were hardcoded onto that 320p fansub as well. I remember the
>I feminine
>I watashi
>I boku
shit
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Indofag here. Depending on how the subs will turned out to be, I will have story to share.
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I'd have loved more worldbuilding. The part about carrying on forgotten traditions reminded me of SSY and SnW. I eat that shit up every time.
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>>150253971
>implying that school wasn't the same shit every day
honestly i wouldn't be able to tell the difference either
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>>150254441
I think they write the date on the blackboard in jap schools.
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>>150254491
including the year ? seems like a waste of time, considering that it only changes every 365 days.
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>>150254441
>date on on school blackboards
>you write down the date constantly
>they run around with smartphones which have the date on the login screen
>mitsuha runs around in Toyko where the data is on those giant screen
>they watch the news every now and then, which shows the date
Even if we assume that all the shit they do in school is "the same" there are still so many ways they should have noticed the date that its pretty damn dumb that they didnt. Not like that train scene was any better, though.
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>>150254377
When he drank the kuchikamizake I screamed out "KA-KANSETSU KISSU?" Got me kicked out of the cinema, but it was worth it. What happened after that?
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>>150254157

>>150252355
That's my ticket
This was the sub session
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>>150254612
An acid trip.
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>>150254643
No, in the movie.
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>>150248137
>It was a great experience seeing this with friends!
Kill yourself.
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>>150254712
Not OP but I saw the movie with a few high-powerlevel friends and a couple more casual ones. I'm generally the solitary type, but a social outing with people whose company I enjoy every now and then is fun.
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>>150254842
We're on the same boat then, went to see it tonight at 7 in syd. Everyone was pretty chill, no autismo present. Good vibes.
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>>150251684
'Twas kino.
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>>150254712
>yourselves
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>discard the comet story
>focus on their lives as they deal with bodyswapping
>drama comes from never being able to see the person you actually love
>time difference still happens, but it's obvious straight away
>make it like 30 years or something
>they meet up at the end and she is old and has moved on
Yes or no?

You could add some tearjerker side plot about his crippled sister or something. He enjoys his different life too much, and neglects his cripple sister who kills herself.
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>>150255210
piss off, the world doesn't need another 1.968" ending
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She wakes up one day in your room in your body. How fucked is she?
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>>150255210
Minus the crippled sister, that would be amazing
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>>150255210
Nah. The comet part dragged on but it was necessary to really show how far apart they were and also test their love for eachother.
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>>150255345
Does that mean I get to wake up in her body one day?
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>>150255210
Pass.
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>>150255339
He has a cute childhood friend to fall back on.
You could even make her the cripple. The moral of the story would be to focus on what you have, instead indulging in impossible alternate realities. It would basically BTFO all the otaku.
Now that Satoshi Kon is dead, someone has to do it.
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>>150255210
>>make it like 30 years or something
>>they meet up at the end and she is old and has moved on
Whats the point? Watching a sob story just to have an ending that isnt satisfying at all?
Why even watch fiction when its just RL on screen?

>>150255345
Would probably fuck up my gym routine and couldnt talk to anyone since no one understands japanese. Would be a bit weird.
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>>150255408
Too bad they developed the characters' relationships with the side characters better than their relationship with each other.
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>>150255504
Their relationship with each other was developed through the body swapping and the stuff after. The relationships with the side characters only made it more obvious.
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I was impressed by the animation on her breasts. I might actually fap to the BD release.
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>>150255587
Too much of their relationship was put into montages. There were hardly any moments of intimacy between them before the twilight scene.
Obviously it would be difficult to convey, but montages are not the right answer.
The montage just ends and they're crying, and you're expected to believe they fancy each other now.
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>>150255610
thats a guilty fap
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>>150255676
I agree that the montages were a slight misstep, but it didn't dimish the connection they had going, at least not for me. The characters themselves didn't have much of an idea about their feelings for eachother (which were probably there early on) until it hit them hard anyway. Again, the scene with Taki's sempai made it pretty obvious. You could say it was pretty jarring but it worked.
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>>150255610
Like this part?
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>>150254277
>Indo
Is that a suburb name or something?
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>>150255810
>Again, the scene with Taki's sempai made it pretty obvious.
Still no actual onscreen explanation what lead to that. Not even gonna start on the fact that all he does is look at pictures of the village, nothing directly related to Mitsuha. Its nice and all that it happens, but the problem is that all this pseudo development happened offscreen which simply shouldnt be the case. There should have been clear hints in the messages they wrote each other, the way the behaved etc. Instead the story simply shoehorns the pairing without giving you much reason why it even exists in the first place. Hell at that point the two didnt even know each other. They lived their own lives while being in the other persons body. Sure they help one another in one or more ways, but this still doesnt result in love. There would have been plenty of ways to make way more believable and they would even have eaten up a lot of screentime. Simple shit like them taking selfies while being in the other persons body and both of them staring at them when they are back in their own or something. Would have been so simple.
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>>150255992
It's that underdeveloped archipelago north of Australia.
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>>150256008
the supernatural connection is so innately intimate i can't fathom any scenario where it wouldn't grow into something more than a purely platonic bond, honestly. I was sold on it.
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>>150256008
This describes my thoughts so well
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>>150256058
What a poor sad soul.
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>>150256008
I think it just falls to preference then. I really liked how their relationship developed and having shit like them staring at eachother's selfies to explicitely show the development on screen would almost cheapen it for me. Like the other anon said, it's a special incredibly close connection that arose without them knowing it until it was too late, which is what happened when they couldn't contact one another/the body swapping stopped. They completed each other and that's what made them long for each other so much.
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Fantastic movie

It obviously falls apart if you look closely but if if you just want a movie with a great plot and great characters that'll send you on a roller coaster of emotions, it's a 10/10. The only gripe I had with it was the symbolism of the meteor being sperm. Was that meant to carry over into the present day as well symbolizing the start of taki/3ha's relationship?
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>>150256405
>it's a 10/10
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>>150256544
>opinions make me irate
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>>150256405
>great plot
>symbolism of the meteor being sperm
You almost sound like a parody
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>>150256544
imo it's a 10/10 too.

Only improvements you could make would be extremely minor, anything else you change means you have to remove other things from the movie.

There's no legitimate objective criticism you can make that isn't a fault of the length/medium
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>>150256606
>symbolism of the meteor being sperm
This was fucking weird in the 'dream' scene, still dont get it desu
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>>150256383
>almost cheapen it for me
It probably was a bad example. I simply tried to make clear that there would have been easy ways to show each others affections for one another because all we've seen was the affection of them for their respective friends and family. Takis relationship with Tessie and that chick and Mitsuhas grandmother gets more onscreen development than his relationship with Mitsuha. Dont get me wrong, that was a nice change of pace, but it simply felt lacking in regards to the relationships between the MCs.

>which is what happened when they couldn't contact one another/the body swapping stopped
But thats just wrong. Taki suddenly falls in love with Mitsuha before he even knows that it stopped. He tries to call her after his date because senpai already says that he loves someone else. The moment he looks at the villages picture is basically when it hits him (for whatever reason that is).

And its the exact same with Mitsuha. She travels to Tokyo to visit him before they stopped switching places. Which, by the way, is the thing that is more confusing than anything else. Mitsuha doesnt even really know Taki, yet for some reason after organizing that date she has these intense feelings for him? Why?

Its not like I dont buy this whole soul mate shit. The problem is that just because love is impossible to explain that doesnt mean that there couldnt be subtle hints about how those feelings even came to exist in the first place. The audience KNOWS that its going to happen, but the movie does a pretty piss poor job of properly leading the way. We just supposed to accept that it suddenly hit them, even though neither of them ever having something as simple as a simple conversation with one another.
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>>150255453
>might fuck up my gym routine

yeah she might try hard enough to finally pull 180 you filthy twink
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Is this actually good or is it just memes?
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>>150257013
Dumb birdposter.
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>>150256998
Its good if you just watch it but becomes kinda lackluster as soon as you question certain aspects of it. Kinda depends on how easy you are to satisfy.
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unfortunately I can't see this in the theatre and will have to settle for the shitty chinese leak
tell me what to think
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>>150256998
You can watch it and see for yourself whether it's good, and if not you'll at least be in on the meme. What's to lose?
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BD when?
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>>150257371
At the very least it's gonna be 6 months lad
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>>150257371
Japs are predicting February/March
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>>150256998
If you are looking for an actual answer. The answer is no. It is so popular in the box office in Japan for a reason. It's enjoyable, not denying that, but its bad. Once you start thinking about the movie after you are done it just really falls apart.

Actual real good things don't get number 1 in the box office.
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>>150259803
>Actual real good things don't get number 1 in the box office.
this is demonstrably false
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>>150259865
Not really. For things to get into number 1, it needs to be popular among normalfags. Stuff that gets into number 1 is stuff with some dumb gimmick or emotional appeal that saps idiots in. Not because that shit is good. It is incredibly rare for something actually good that isn't relying on something to "hook" its viewers to get something like number 1.
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>>150260020
That's just elitism, dude.
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>>150254441
>don't literally ever see the news, or any subculture news.
Do these people literally have 0 interests?
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>>150261245
>"I am just an ordinary Highschool student"
Pretty sure they sleep the whole day when they aren't studying for school.
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>>150260905
Not him but youre fucking retarded. For something to be successful it needs to be neutral, it cant be controversial. A movie with a controversial message will never be successful because it only panders to a certain group of people. Kimi no na wa has a shit ton of flaws that become blatantly obvious as soon as one actually analyzes the plot and the character development. Does that mean that it isnt enjoyable? No it doesnt. But neither does it mean that its flawless or a well executed story. Western cinema isnt any different. I mean, look at the highest grossing films of 2016. Its like 50% capeshit, Finding Dori and some other stuff that is nothing else but popcorn kino. Neither are good films, people simply consider them entertaining for other reasons.
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>>150262788
Controversy has sold since day one, dude. This is really naive. Controversy makes things polarizing which makes things worth talking about which makes this successful. The Sex Pistols were very very controversial, for instance, and for that reason they made lots and lots of money.
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>>150262933
>compares a band to movie
You simply have went ahead and provided controversial films that topped the grossing list instead, but I think we both that there are none because movie success is based on marketing hype and their neutral approach to please as many people as possible. We are also not talking about general success her (since thats something one can stretch to their liking) but movies that actually topped the box office charts.
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It's been a while since I've been to a cinema before but do I need my glasses for reading the subs where I'm nearsighted?
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>>150263081
The same principle applies to movies just as easily. I think Your Name appeals to western audiences less than Spirited Away did. It's more overtly Japanese and still made bank here.
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>>150262933
Controversy only sells if it is talked about, wide appeal is the single most important thing in determining popularity.
The real issue isn't that controversial things don't sell, because controversy is essentially what is being talked about, the issue is that disagreeable things don't sell, even if they are correct in their disagree-ability.
I disagree with the guy you're responding to, but there are serious biases that make it so the stuff that is the best doesn't go to the top and the stuff that is on top isn't the best.
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>taki in main timeline getting cucked
>loses senpai while searching for a dead mitsuha
This is suffering
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The last 50 seconds of Mitsuba no Theme from the OST are killing me. Such cheap ass illogical drama in that scene yet it still gets me.
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>>150265256
What part was that again?
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>>150265304
The train scene with her being pushed off and Taki remembering that she visited him in the past.
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>>150265394
Oh yeah, that was fairly stupid.
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>>150248137
I watched it yesterday at the cinema too, i thought it was overrated before but it is a very nice movie.
Even one qt staff was watching it from the hallways.
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The first half was pretty good the second half not so much. Should have just focused on the body switching shenanigans instead of the bullshit drama.
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>letting your protags run around for 5, in Mitsuhas case 8 fucking years with nothing but an I love you written on your hand always feeling like someone/something is missing from your life
Shinkai should just off himself.
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>>150265750
Same here. For the first 50ish minutes I really, really enjoyed myself. Like, a lot. Especially that part where Taki goes hiking with Yotsuha and grandma. Beautiful sceneries, interest character developments, impeccable sound designs. Then the remaining 40ish minutes just completely lost me because they werent even remotely as interesting with most of the drama just feeling forced, cheap and partially even illogical as hell. Really didnt like the whole "this body switching shit has a higher purpose" either. That wasnt required to tie stuff together.
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>high-school romance
>main part of premise is a magical comet that fucks with time, memories and people's souls or whatever you call them
>IT'S ILLOGICAL AND STUPID AND WHY DIDNT HE WRITE HER NAME WOW WHAT A SHITTY MOVIE
ITT: people who can't enjoy works of fiction
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Canada premier fucking when
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>>150268087
A lot of people here brought critiques about the story not regarding to plot holes, and noticing a plot hole can break immersion and ruin a story.
>I'm helpful
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>>150268284
I saw that in this and previous threads, however the whole shit about character acting illogicaly and having feelings out of nowhere is more prevalent and so autistic it hurts. It reminds me of Yahari when anons found themselves shocked that the characters are not acting in a logical and predictable manner.

it's like nobody ever loved those posters
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>>150268703
is that in tokyo?
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>>150255210

>46 year old girlfriend

>not leading to glorious milf romance
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>>150254712
No thank you, I can't die until I've seen the end of Gintama.
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>>150257371
Maybe March? I'll certainly be getting it!
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>>150253971
>having memories and phones magically fucked up is logical
>never noticing the date isn't
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>>150269917
>if magic exists in a story, all semblance of logic can be discarded
Stop.
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>>150270539
>if magic exists in a story, all semblance of logic can be discarded
that's not exactly what I implied. I'll try to make it clear: when we are aware that there's some supernatural stuff that causes gaps in memory and tampers with technology, it's not absurd to assume that it also explains similar irregularities, even if that's not explicitly stated.
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>>150248137
>with friends
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Saw it today, subbed, Panton street, 7PM. Anyone who were there today?
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>tfw too poorfag to see it in theater
Decent quality rip when?
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>>150255345
If she's ready to wake up at 5AM then ok
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>>150271313
There is no reason to assume that neither of them notices a 3 year gap considering how often we are exposed to this shit nowadays. Hell, just watching TV will let you know what year it is within a couple hours without even watching the news. Thing is that this wasnt even the biggest issue the movie had. There were way more impactful ones, like the train scene for example. The way that one concluded made no sense whatsoever and I dont think that its a good thing to you just leave out explanations so that the viewer is forced to assume that X or Y happened.

The film was goddamn impeccable for its first half, but dropped off so hard afterwards that I wish they'd completely remake that bit. Honestly, it wasnt even just the first half. Probably up to the point where Taki climbs the crater to enters "the underworld". Up until that point the movie was so goddamn enjoyable and then they made one bad decision after another.
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>>150272058
I assumed that comet magic fucked up with their perception so they wouldn't notice the gap.

>the train scene
please elaborate
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>>150271879
Fuck, not 7, meant 5:30
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>>150272148
>please elaborate
Mitsuha goes to Tokyo to find Taki. Finds him. He doesnt recognize her since its 3 years before the events in his timeline. However, at the end he clearly shows interest. In that moment they are being ripped apart by people pushing her out of the train.

I mean, this is retarded for multiple reasons
a) people would fucking stop walking if shit like this happens, japanese arent robots. 2 kids are basically yelling their names at each other I mean come the fuck on
b) Taki clearly showed interest so why didnt he simply leave the train with her
c) since both of them showed interest why arent they just trying to find each other like they do at the end? In this case only Taki has to do shit because Mitsuha could just wait at that train station. She could also follow him home if she really wanted to (unless I missed the pat that implied that he moved in those 3 years)

But nothing fucking happens. They act like she fell off a fucking cliff and theres no way to reunite. And the worst part is that the movie shows her being all depressed when she comes back home (not going to the festival, only for the final; having her grandma cut her hair) but why the fuck is she depressed again? Taki clearly showed interest and considering all the paranormal shit they have been through (which she knows of) she had no reason to instantly return home, let alone be sad and not curious about how the events turned out. That part is just over-dramatized feels shit and yes, the music got me to shed tears as well, but that still doesnt make it any more logical. And no, this isnt related to some magic phenomenon, it just makes no sense at all.
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>>150272716
Ok, I see now. I could nitpick some stuff but you're basically right.

I'm a faggot and I love the movie regardless
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>>150272208
You should've come yesterday anon.
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>>150272716
Yeah, that's pretty retarded, but it's all part of the style. Unless you're watching it with an intent to criticize that shouldn't bother you when see it for the first time. It only falls apart when you analyze it but is top enjoyable when watching.
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>>150268761
Yotsuya Suga Shrine, Shinjuku, Tokyo.

https://matome.naver.jp/odai/2147236145900542001

https://www.tripadvisor.com.br/Attraction_Review-g1066457-d8755971-Reviews-Suga_Shrine-Shinjuku_Tokyo_Tokyo_Prefecture_Kanto.html
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>>150260905
No its not, its merely a simple observation. For something to be popular enough to hit high in box office it *has* to appeal to normalfags. There is no ifs or whats about it. For something to be big, it has to cater to a large number of people. For something to cater to such a large number of people, it needs something to hook viewers. They do that by having some really dumb gimmick that sucks people in (Stuff published in shoenen magazines is a very good example as these rely on certain cliches and the like to attract people and its why they have such a large appeal. This is also why shonen stuff is normally similar.) or emotional appeal.

Shit doesn't get popular because its good, it's popular because it has a large appeal. It's not elitism, it is just simply the truth. A sad one at that. It is rare for something actually good to gain a massive appeal and hit high in the box office.
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>>150253699
>dad theres a comet thats gonna split and kill everyone pls evacuate
>bullshit
>Dad the fucking comet split look up. jesus christ evacuate.
>ok

Use your brain fampai
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